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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #1425 on: January 29, 2017, 11:22:37 PM »
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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #1426 on: January 29, 2017, 11:27:55 PM »
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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #1427 on: January 29, 2017, 11:44:14 PM »
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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #1428 on: January 30, 2017, 06:25:47 AM »
Hey nice work Barack. Start ceding Iraq to ISIS in 2011, then suspend Iraqi immigration for six months citing "security concerns". 

Real humanitarian that guy.   

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #1429 on: January 30, 2017, 08:03:11 AM »


Hey nice work Barack. Start ceding Iraq to ISIS in 2011, then suspend Iraqi immigration for six months citing "security concerns". 

Real humanitarian that guy.

Do you have a link detailing how Obama "suspended Iraqi immigration"?

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Re: The Trump Presidency
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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #1431 on: January 30, 2017, 08:46:31 AM »
I have to applaud republicans, after a few days of none of them knowing wtf was going on, they have completely unified their talking points this morning.
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« Reply #1432 on: January 30, 2017, 09:12:23 AM »
It's always fantastic when the MSM comes back to fly air cover and explain how "different" similar decisions made by Dems and Pubs really were.

While there were some slight differences, all net new Iraqi Visa applications were suspended for six months by Obama. 

At the time the US was completing pulling out of Iraq, so if you were caught up in the rise of ISIS, too bad :( 

Why were Iraqi Visa applications suspended for six months.

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #1433 on: January 30, 2017, 09:16:00 AM »
I'm very pleased with Donald's Presidenting so far.
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Re: The Trump Presidency
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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #1435 on: January 30, 2017, 09:31:02 AM »




While there were some slight differences, all net new Iraqi Visa applications were suspended for six months by Obama. 



link?

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #1436 on: January 30, 2017, 09:38:09 AM »
So dax is against Trump's plan is what I'm reading.

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #1437 on: January 30, 2017, 10:41:55 AM »
I'd be more in favor of severely limiting immigration from predominantly muslim hell holes on a more permanent basis, but I guess a 120 day pause will do for now.

Liberals have gone completely berserk over this. Actually seems pretty sensible to take a pause and allow new appointees to reexamine vetting procedure. I do agree with the ACLU and the court issuing an injunction regarding the 200 or so people already in the air / at the airport.
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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #1438 on: January 30, 2017, 10:48:28 AM »

Actually seems pretty sensible to take a pause and allow new appointees to reexamine vetting procedure.

based on all the refugee terrorist attacks in the last fifteen years?

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« Reply #1439 on: January 30, 2017, 10:54:24 AM »
So now we're back to questioning what the CIA says? I wish you guys would make up your mind.

Oh, since you can't answer the question apparently, Obama suspended issuing visas because it was discovered that a dude with strong ties to AQ had settled comfortably in just down the street from Ft. Knox.  He came into the US on a visa.  Good, strong, thoughtful security measures:  But only acceptable if it's a Democrat signing the order.

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #1440 on: January 30, 2017, 11:02:49 AM »
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Love, love how the media is running with the phrase "immigration ban".  Nothing like perpetuating a false narrative that all immigration has been banned.

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #1441 on: January 30, 2017, 11:10:19 AM »
I'm actually in favor of people using anti-Trump false narratives in order to combat Trump's own false narratives.

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« Reply #1442 on: January 30, 2017, 11:17:00 AM »
I'm actually in favor of people using anti-Trump false narratives in order to combat Trump's own false narratives.

Well I suppose on one level it beats the saying one thing and then doing the exact opposite that we experienced in the previous 8 years. 

One noted difference . . . far fewer complicit sycophants this time around.

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #1443 on: January 30, 2017, 11:19:36 AM »


Oh, since you can't answer the question apparently, Obama suspended issuing visas

link?


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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #1445 on: January 30, 2017, 11:21:12 AM »
Good to see the WaPo jump in and try to falsely claim there are huge differences. 


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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #1446 on: January 30, 2017, 11:22:40 AM »
Good to see the WaPo jump in and try to falsely claim there are huge differences.

Where is the correct story?

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« Reply #1447 on: January 30, 2017, 11:27:40 AM »
It is the "correct" story but disingenuous in presentation.  Nice job of not emphasizing that the visa ban on Iraqis was done for security reasons and failing to expand on the fact that it was done with minimal transparency. 

Now, unlike selective meltdown ProgLib Nation, I'll give a nod to the lack of transparency also being for security reasons. 

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« Reply #1448 on: January 30, 2017, 11:27:52 AM »

Actually seems pretty sensible to take a pause and allow new appointees to reexamine vetting procedure.

based on all the refugee terrorist attacks in the last fifteen years?

I think it is based on more than just "terrorism" committed by "refugees." We should reexamine our immigration policy with respect to predominantly muslim hell holes based on all crime committed by immigrants and their children.

But anyway, here's one just off the top of my head that meets your narrow classification. http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/suspect-dead-after-ohio-state-university-car-knife-attack-n689076

As I mentioned, there are also numerous instances of refugees committing rape, murder, and other horrible crimes, such as this "Minnesota Man." And again, the children of muslim immigrants appear to pose an even more significant problem. Poor immigration and settlement policy is leading to a lack of assimilation and resulting radicalization, such as what the Minneapolis/St. Paul Somali community is experiencing.

I'm not going to argue whether such crime rates are proportional to the population at large because that is completely irrelevant - we are allowing these people in who otherwise would not be here, so we can be proactive about reducing risk.

I think opponents of a thoughtful, cautious immigration policy with respect to predominantly muslim countries with strong ties to radicalization are blinded by a misguided adherence to political correctness.
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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #1449 on: January 30, 2017, 11:35:13 AM »
It is the "correct" story but disingenuous in presentation.  Nice job of not emphasizing that the visa ban on Iraqis was done for security reasons and failing to expand on the fact that it was done with minimal transparency. 

so no link to the Obama visa ban? thanks