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Gender Issues
« on: May 05, 2016, 10:22:51 AM »


Wait, so is he like a woman who became a man but likes women? Or a woman who became a man and likes men? Which one is gay?


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Re: Gender Issues
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2016, 10:39:26 AM »
Man (who was formerly a woman) who likes men.

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Re: Gender Issues
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2016, 01:33:06 PM »
Man (who was formerly a woman) who likes men.

Ah, so not gay, but in a homosexual relationship. The world is so complicated these days.

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Re: Gender Issues
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2016, 01:41:00 PM »
That's gay, and it's not complicated at all
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Re: Gender Issues
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2016, 01:45:59 PM »
So if I like women and get a sex change and still like women, the operation turned me gay?

Seems to go against the whole "born that way" argument.

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Re: Gender Issues
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2016, 01:47:28 PM »
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Re: Gender Issues
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2016, 01:50:22 PM »
So if I like women and get a sex change and still like women, the operation turned me gay?

Seems to go against the whole "born that way" argument.

No because you were also born female, just your body didn't conform to your gender identification.

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Re: Gender Issues
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2016, 01:51:05 PM »
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Re: Gender Issues
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2016, 01:55:03 PM »
So if I like women and get a sex change and still like women, the operation turned me gay?

Seems to go against the whole "born that way" argument.

No because you were also born female, just your body didn't conform to your gender identification.

That's pretty narrow minded to assume I would only get a sex change because I identify as a woman. What if I just wanted to improve my golf game?

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Re: Gender Issues
« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2016, 01:57:16 PM »
So if I like women and get a sex change and still like women, the operation turned me gay?

Seems to go against the whole "born that way" argument.

No because you were also born female, just your body didn't conform to your gender identification.

That's pretty narrow minded to assume I would only get a sex change because I identify as a woman. What if I just wanted to improve my golf game?

Do ball(s) get in the way of playing golf? I'd think the addition of breasts would be more of a hindrance.
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Re: Gender Issues
« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2016, 02:02:32 PM »
So if I like women and get a sex change and still like women, the operation turned me gay?

Seems to go against the whole "born that way" argument.

No because you were also born female, just your body didn't conform to your gender identification.

That's pretty narrow minded to assume I would only get a sex change because I identify as a woman. What if I just wanted to improve my golf game?

Do ball(s) get in the way of playing golf? I'd think the addition of breasts would be more of a hindrance.
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Re: Gender Issues
« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2016, 02:04:33 PM »
So if I like women and get a sex change and still like women, the operation turned me gay?

Seems to go against the whole "born that way" argument.

No because you were also born female, just your body didn't conform to your gender identification.

That's pretty narrow minded to assume I would only get a sex change because I identify as a woman. What if I just wanted to improve my golf game?

Do ball(s) get in the way of playing golf? I'd think the addition of breasts would be more of a hindrance.
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http://nesn.com/2016/03/caitlyn-jenner-says-shes-better-at-golf-because-of-her-female-anatomy-video/

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Re: Gender Issues
« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2016, 02:31:42 PM »
So if I like women and get a sex change and still like women, the operation turned me gay?

Seems to go against the whole "born that way" argument.

No because you were also born female, just your body didn't conform to your gender identification.

What is the point of a sex change then?

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Re: Gender Issues
« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2016, 02:45:50 PM »
So is the guy banging the girl that identifies as a guy gay?  :confused:

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Re: Gender Issues
« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2016, 02:58:11 PM »
So is the guy banging the girl that identifies as a guy gay?  :confused:

Not gay, but maybe in a homosexual relationship.

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Re: Gender Issues
« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2016, 03:00:18 PM »
So is the guy banging the girl that identifies as a guy gay?  :confused:

Maybe gay, maybe bi. There's not enough info
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Re: Gender Issues
« Reply #16 on: May 05, 2016, 03:00:26 PM »
Maybe this will help:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yc4efBM_9JM (starting around 2:20)

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Re: Gender Issues
« Reply #17 on: May 05, 2016, 03:02:14 PM »
So if I like women and get a sex change and still like women, the operation turned me gay?

Seems to go against the whole "born that way" argument.

No because you were also born female, just your body didn't conform to your gender identification.

What is the point of a sex change then?

To align your body with your gender identification. There are a number of reasons why a trans person may or may not want to get one though
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Re: Gender Issues
« Reply #18 on: May 05, 2016, 03:03:51 PM »
This is not difficult to understand, like at all
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Re: Gender Issues
« Reply #19 on: May 05, 2016, 03:07:15 PM »
So is the guy banging the girl that identifies as a guy gay?  :confused:

Maybe gay, maybe bi. There's not enough info

Ok so let's say normal dude is married to normal girl, they bang, have kids, yadda yadda.  But then she decides she wants a sex change and to dress and identify as a dude, but still be married and all that. 

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Re: Gender Issues
« Reply #20 on: May 05, 2016, 03:09:38 PM »
That's really for the guy to decide. Sexuality isn't binary
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Re: Gender Issues
« Reply #21 on: May 05, 2016, 03:10:42 PM »
So is the guy banging the girl that identifies as a guy gay?  :confused:

Maybe gay, maybe bi. There's not enough info

Ok so let's say normal dude is married to normal girl, they bang, have kids, yadda yadda.  But then she decides she wants a sex change and to dress and identify as a dude, but still be married and all that.

That's kind of how it went for Caitlyn, right?

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Re: Gender Issues
« Reply #22 on: May 05, 2016, 03:11:59 PM »
This is not difficult to understand, like at all

A male being born a female is kind of confusing imo if one is a physical sex and the other is a social construct(how am I born with a social construct  :confused:).

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Re: Gender Issues
« Reply #23 on: May 05, 2016, 03:13:10 PM »
Well females aren't a social construct so maybe that's your confusion
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Re: Gender Issues
« Reply #24 on: May 05, 2016, 03:16:23 PM »
Well females aren't a social construct so maybe that's your confusion

Thanks, what are the proper terms for the gender identifications?