I think the Missouri football players just went on strike

[The Big Train]

And population percentages should be equally reflected in a university's staff? I don't agree with that.

It seems reasonable for a public institution to at least make an effort to achieve that goal.

should they do that with football scholarships too?

That's a ridiculous false equivalency, but do white football players have a historic and systematic difficulty getting football scholarships?

I could interpret your viewpoint on this as you believing that the university can't find enough qualified teachers to have a representative percentage of black faculty, but I won't do that.

you could also make an argument that if its as bad there as we are all hearing, that minorities in general wouldnt want to work there.  i mean if you cant even walk across campus without running in to that, why would you want to work there?

[michigancat]

And population percentages should be equally reflected in a university's staff? I don't agree with that.

It seems reasonable for a public institution to at least make an effort to achieve that goal.

should they do that with football scholarships too?

That's a ridiculous false equivalency, but do white football players have a historic and systematic difficulty getting football scholarships?

I could interpret your viewpoint on this as you believing that the university can't find enough qualified teachers to have a representative percentage of black faculty, but I won't do that.

you could also make an argument that if its as bad there as we are all hearing, that minorities in general wouldnt want to work there.  i mean if you cant even walk across campus without running in to that, why would you want to work there?

That's a pretty stupid argument. But I suppose you can make it if you want to.

[The Big Train]

im not making it, just throwing it out there if we are going to pick and choose what viewpoint we are going to view

[michigancat]

ok

[CNS]

i just dont understand why everyone cant be friends, like, it would solve a bunch of problems if everyone was just buds with one another

Or at very least not actively being assholes  to ppl you dont want to associate with. 

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[DQ12]

unsurprisingly, tigerboard is extremely nasty right now. 

[CNS]

Assuming they are not siding with the students.

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[CNS]

MU  pres just tweeted a statement that said, w re to the student demands, "we already met on this like 6 months ago and totally planned on doing all those demands anyway".



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[MakeItRain]

And population percentages should be equally reflected in a university's staff? I don't agree with that.

It seems reasonable for a public institution to at least make an effort to achieve that goal.

should they do that with football scholarships too?

That's a ridiculous false equivalency, but do white football players have a historic and systematic difficulty getting football scholarships?

I could interpret your viewpoint on this as you believing that the university can't find enough qualified teachers to have a representative percentage of black faculty, but I won't do that.

you could also make an argument that if its as bad there as we are all hearing, that minorities in general wouldnt want to work there.  i mean if you cant even walk across campus without running in to that, why would you want to work there?

That's a pretty stupid argument. But I suppose you can make it if you want to.

I actually agree with tbt. A perceived hostile work environment would absolutely cut into the number of qualified minority applicants they get. That burden falls on the administration to fix, it isn't the fault of the minority candidates.

[michigancat]

Yeah I thought he was making the argument to say the conditions really weren't all that bad if people of color wanted to work there

[MakeItRain]

My point is if there's an opening for an English teacher, they should take applications and then hire someone. I'm sure there's plenty of quailfied people out there for those jobs, black white or other. To mandate a percentage is not something I'd do.

Cartier, people get jobs all of the time not based on merit. This is a college campus they graduate qualified minority applicants for these jobs every semester. Hiring percentages are asked for because it has been proven time and time again that without them minority candidates won't be given a fair shot. Add to that Missouri's history and the fact that minorities are also underrepresented in the decision making of the hiring process, you are out of your mind if you think that the process it's fair and at least some qualified minority candidates are given equal opportunity.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

And population percentages should be equally reflected in a university's staff? I don't agree with that.

It seems reasonable for a public institution to at least make an effort to achieve that goal.

Or they could just focus on hiring the most qualified people.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

  was one of the demands really that he "admit his white privilege?"

[MakeItRain]

Yeah I thought he was making the argument to say the conditions really weren't all that bad if people of color wanted to work there

I hope he wasn't saying that, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. If he were I'd use his point and cartiers to springboard into inferior opportunities minorities are forced to take to even get a chance.

[star seed 7]

I think mc misunderstood

[MakeItRain]

And population percentages should be equally reflected in a university's staff? I don't agree with that.

It seems reasonable for a public institution to at least make an effort to achieve that goal.

Or they could just focus on hiring the most qualified people.

Man, that'd be nice wouldn't it?

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

And population percentages should be equally reflected in a university's staff? I don't agree with that.

It seems reasonable for a public institution to at least make an effort to achieve that goal.

Or they could just focus on hiring the most qualified people.

Man, that'd be nice wouldn't it?

Says the guy who favors hiring quotas based on skin pigmentation.

[Dr Rick Daris]

it's times like this that I appreciate our ks farm types for mainly just being farmy and not super racisty like the Missouri small town people are.

[The Big Train]

Yeah I thought he was making the argument to say the conditions really weren't all that bad if people of color wanted to work there

I hope he wasn't saying that, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. If he were I'd use his point and cartiers to springboard into inferior opportunities minorities are forced to take to even get a chance.

you understood my point, mich didnt

[Cartierfor3]

My point is if there's an opening for an English teacher, they should take applications and then hire someone. I'm sure there's plenty of quailfied people out there for those jobs, black white or other. To mandate a percentage is not something I'd do.

Cartier, people get jobs all of the time not based on merit. This is a college campus they graduate qualified minority applicants for these jobs every semester. Hiring percentages are asked for because it has been proven time and time again that without them minority candidates won't be given a fair shot. Add to that Missouri's history and the fact that minorities are also underrepresented in the decision making of the hiring process, you are out of your mind if you think that the process it's fair and at least some qualified minority candidates are given equal opportunity.

ok

[michigancat]

Yeah I thought he was making the argument to say the conditions really weren't all that bad if people of color wanted to work there

I hope he wasn't saying that, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. If he were I'd use his point and cartiers to springboard into inferior opportunities minorities are forced to take to even get a chance.

you understood my point, mich didnt

Yep, my mistake!

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

I invite you to watch this video and tell me something hasn't gone seriously awry with PC zealotry on college campuses. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3308422/Students-rage-professor-sent-email-telling-students-just-look-away-offended-Halloween-costumes.html

I suppose it could be argued that college students were always this juvenile, only it's now being memorialized forever online. But I think the kids are getting worse. It's a toxic mixture of entitlement and immaturity, and the colleges are just enabling it. They are not doing these children a service.

[chum1]

Looks like Wolfe better go ahead and fire Pinkel right now.

[star seed 7]

Yeah, not wanting crap swastikas and being called a n-word on campus is very entitled and immature.

[CNS]

The getting worse part is merely this generation  growing up in a slightly  less mumped up time than their parents and actually having the audacity to think they shouldn't have to endure shitty behavior from society.

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