Well hello there SAE

[Rage Against the McKee]

While the situation at OU needed to be dealt with swiftly, I should say that I should no longer be astounded by the broad brush that some at GE paint with.   It has to be goEMAW'ing, right?   The immediate sewing of individual actions into the fabric of entire communities, groups, institutions, states and even countries is, in a word; astounding, albeit fascinating.

Was it an individual action? It sounded like a collective action of a busload of kids to me.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Then why did only 2 guys get kicked out of school?

They had the misfortune of being identifiable by the video camera.

[The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep]

If girls is the answer to all the questions ITT, it kinda makes it even more sad, imo.

i think dugout is being facetious.

[The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep]

personally, i signed up for a fraternity because i wanted to get better at butt chugs.

[michigancat]

Then why did only 2 guys get kicked out of school?

They had the misfortune of being identifiable by the video camera.

Yeah, I'm sure Boren would have loved to expelled them all but has been discussed, just expelling the two visible on the video is dubious enough legally.

[pissclams]

Then why did only 2 guys get kicked out of school?

they were the racists at OU.  it's all clear now, #harmonyinaworldofdifference

[Dugout DickStone]

If girls is the answer to all the questions ITT, it kinda makes it even more sad, imo.

My frat never sang racist songs but we got lots of girlz.

[Dugout DickStone]

personally, i signed up for a fraternity because i wanted to get better at butt chugs.

If you want to up your BC game, you had better be greek.

[Spracne]

personally, i signed up for a fraternity because i wanted to get better at butt chugs.

If you want to up your BC game, you had better be greek.

Can't spell 'Bacchanalia' without 'anal.'

[mocat]

fwiw, Steve-O attended the university of new mexico, but was not in a fraternity.

[KCFDcat]

First post in this thread, and I haven't read the whole thing so forgive me if this has been stated.

I think what happened at ou sucks, I don't think those kids are/were true racists though. They're the product of an environment that empowers boys to think they are men, and teaches them to act how they perceive men should act. Ie taking advantage of women, abusing alcohol, and acting racist because they're middle to upper class white kids (for the most part)

Personally i don't see the point of frats in the modern college society beyond parties and heavy drinking and gurlz. There will obviously binge drinking on college campuses regardless of Greek affiliation, but I do think Greeks promote that culture more so than non Greeks. I have no facts to back that up, just how it seems to play out over and over again.

yes I lumped in girls with parties. Frats throw parties to get girls, right?

[slobber]

Did Bookie ever explain what GEED stands for? I missed that part.


Gonna win 'em all!

[KCFDcat]

Did Bookie ever explain what GEED stands for? I missed that part.


Gonna win 'em all!

I think somehow it means GDI, although I have no idea how or why

[Bqqkie Pimp]

it's different at different colleges. i don't think kstate owns any off the houses.

I believe this to be accurate.  I have also always been of the belief that the houses are not technically "on campus" as well. 

To answer those who chose not to join a fraternity as to why most do, it's just like any other decision really. The good outweighs the bad. As with any living arrangement, there are pros & cons and we all made our decisions based on what weight we put on each perceived benefit or negative aspect.

[KCFDcat]

My opinion of frats is pretty jaded as someone close to me was date-raped at a frat once. (not at ksu) My view of the frat culture and the people that support it is pretty low.

Note: I'm not saying all frat dudes are bad, just that the people that continue to perpetuate the "get 'em drunk and take 'em upstairs" attitude, are about the lowest of the low in my book.  I also think that most guys that do this to women wouldn't do it if it wasn't supported by the institution.

[EMAWmeister]

However, the one guy in my circle that was in one(don't even know which) used to get super worked up if you called it a Frat rather than a Fraternity.  He said that was similar to calling our Country a $!#*. 

People who say that are douchebags, and it's not something I'd call someone out for, but the word 'frat' makes most people think of all the negative stereotypes of a fraternity.

[star seed 7]

Fraternity sounds dorky as eff. Frat sounds like party time

[Tobias]

sometimes you just don't force #classy

[EuroCat]

However, the one guy in my circle that was in one(don't even know which) used to get super worked up if you called it a Frat rather than a Fraternity.  He said that was similar to calling our Country a $!#*. 

People who say that are douchebags, and it's not something I'd call someone out for, but the word 'frat' makes most people think of all the negative stereotypes of a fraternity.

"Frat" has a negative connotation because of the shitty behavior that people have associated the word with. If you want to end the association, you have to change the behavior, not the word.

[puniraptor]

And change animal house and revenge of the nerds and van wilder and

[8manpick]

it's different at different colleges. i don't think kstate owns any off the houses.

I believe this to be accurate.  I have also always been of the belief that the houses are not technically "on campus" as well. 

To answer those who chose not to join a fraternity as to why most do, it's just like any other decision really. The good outweighs the bad. As with any living arrangement, there are pros & cons and we all made our decisions based on what weight we put on each perceived benefit or negative aspect.

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding the first sentence of your second paragraph, but if you think that "most" men on campus are in fraternities, that is pretty far off base.

[star seed 7]

You're misunderstanding

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

I think making all houses 100% dry would be smart for KSU (even though Pat Bosco insists there aren't problems with Greeks at KSU).

Yep.  I'd have no problem with that.

I think you two just set a record for amount of lame old-fogieism in back-to-back posts. Good grief

[Bqqkie Pimp]

You're misunderstanding

This is correct.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Fraternities and Sororities do far more good than harm

They raise/donate hundreds of millions of dollars to local charities, volunteer countless hours in the community and have far higher retention/graduation rates the geeds.

It's pathetic that the acts of a few are used as an excuse to punish the institution as a whole. Maybe we should just close down the university instead of one facet of its community housing. So stupid