How big a deal is a bad year?

[CHONGS]

hey guys, i may get to kill jrake!   

the bonus is that because it's in writing on a message board, it will be 100% legal!

[MakeItRain]

I applaud your efforts to play devil's advocate right now but eff you are saying asinine crap attempting to do so. I have no idea how in the hell you think playing in a 10 team true round robin is harder for us to have respectable finishes than it was playing in a 12 team conference when we not only share the division but the state with the dominant team.

if any non-ku or iowa state big 12 team strings together four straight top-4 finishes from 2016 to 2019, i'll pick up the tab for fatty fest 2019.

if k-state does it, i'll lay down in the middle of aggieville and let you run me over with a bus until i'm dead.

While you're laying in the road can you explain why we excluded any team from that or why it's relevant to why the conference is harder or easier than it was 3 years ago?

[Rage Against the McKee]

[j rake]

While you're laying in the road can you explain why we excluded any team from that or why it's relevant to why the conference is harder or easier than it was 3 years ago?

yes, but no promises, i'll probably be under a lot of stress.

[mocat]

omg, remember when jrake excluded iowa state in his wager about perennial top 4 finishers in the big 12? 

[ChiComCat]

omg, remember when jrake excluded iowa state in his wager about perennial top 4 finishers in the big 12? 

2019 ChiCat sure will

[MakeItRain]

omg, remember when jrake excluded iowa state in his wager about perennial top 4 finishers in the big 12? 

Yes, Iowa State and Kansas don't count, there's 20% of the conference excluded. TCU and TT are so bad that they don't factor at all so there's another 20%. WVU has yet to finish in the top 4 in the Big 12 and K-State is trending down so essentially the bet is, "OU, UT, OSU or Baylor won't finish in the top four, 4 years in a row." That bet takes courage, man rake is really laying it on the line with that one.

[j rake]

Yes, Iowa State and Kansas don't count, there's 20% of the conference excluded. TCU and TT are so bad that they don't factor at all so there's another 20%. WVU has yet to finish in the top 4 in the Big 12 and K-State is trending down so essentially the bet is, "OU, UT, OSU or Baylor won't finish in the top four, 4 years in a row." That bet takes courage, man rake is really laying it on the line with that one.

i'll bet whatever you want (money, charity donation, etc) that "non-factor" tcu finishes tied or ahead of k-state in the league standings at least three of the next five years, and that texas tech does it at least twice.

please advise.

[sys]

i'll bet whatever you want (money, charity donation, etc) that "non-factor" tcu finishes tied or ahead of k-state in the league standings at least three of the next five years, and that texas tech does it at least twice.

let's just double down on your life.

[MakeItRain]

Yes, Iowa State and Kansas don't count, there's 20% of the conference excluded. TCU and TT are so bad that they don't factor at all so there's another 20%. WVU has yet to finish in the top 4 in the Big 12 and K-State is trending down so essentially the bet is, "OU, UT, OSU or Baylor won't finish in the top four, 4 years in a row." That bet takes courage, man rake is really laying it on the line with that one.

i'll bet whatever you want (money, charity donation, etc) that "non-factor" tcu finishes tied or ahead of k-state in the league standings at least three of the next five years, and that texas tech does it at least twice.

please advise.

Why the hell would I take that bet, what part of what I am posting leads you to believe that we don't blow? Again you are getting all twisted up in your talking points though as this does nothing to prove your theory,that you don't actually believe, that the Big 12 is now a harder conference than it was 3 years ago.

[Trim]

Yeah, I can't disagree that maybe oscar has something going with the players where they do better when getting to sleep at home or something that is independent of the in-fOOD atmosphere.

Saturday could be a look into what next year's crowd could be like.

I just got the "this week in k-state" email.
   

K-State Men's Basketball Hosts Big Monday Showdown vs. #8 KU

K-State Men's Basketball hosts #8 KU at 8 pm tonight, in Bramlage Coliseum. Tickets to the game are still available - click here to purchase tickets. The game is Big Monday and will be broadcast nationally on ESPN.

[j rake]

Why the hell would I take that bet, what part of what I am posting leads you to believe that we don't blow? Again you are getting all twisted up in your talking points though as this does nothing to prove your theory,that you don't actually believe, that the Big 12 is now a harder conference than it was 3 years ago.

we can disagree on the difficulty of the new big 12 compared to the old, but i'll still maintain that it's going to be much harder to sustain consistent success going forward given that the eight non ku and iowa state teams will be more or less interchangeable from one season to the next.

[Frankenklein]

Just look at what oscar is doing to you people 

[06wildcat]

rake, where do you rank oscar among Big 12 coaches?

[kso_FAN]

I don't think many people here know the history of rake.

[j rake]

rake, where do you rank oscar among Big 12 coaches?

big 12 coaches ranked:

1. hoiberg
2. self
3. kruger
4. huggins
5. drew
6. johnson
7. barnes
8. tubby
9. weber
10. ford

[sys]

I don't think many people here know the history of rake.

did you see where i've entered into two contracts, either of which may give me the right to kill him in five years?

[catzacker]

I don't think many people here know the history of rake.

did you see where i've entered into two contracts, either of which may give me the right to kill him in five years?

I think when a contract incorporates something illegal it becomes invalid in whole.  but I was barely awake for most of Kathy Seeberger's classes so maybe i'm wrong.

[j rake]

the contact is also void if hoiberg wins a national title before k-state next makes the ncaa tourney.

[sys]

I think when a contract incorporates something illegal it becomes invalid in whole.  but I was barely awake for most of Kathy Seeberger's classes so maybe i'm wrong.

there are a lot of lawyers here.  if we need to leave the country or something before we execute the contract, i'm sure someone will let me know.

[sys]

the contact is also void if hoiberg wins a national title before k-state next makes the ncaa tourney.

obviously.

[Katpappy]

Huggins had a 19 loss season two years ago.

Jay Wright lost 19 games in 2012.

Mike Brey went 15-17 last year.

Roy Williams had 17 losses in 2010. (16-16 regular season)

Billy Donovan is 13-14 this year.

So yeah.

all of those coaches have made the elite 8 with the schools they are at now except brey who has made the sweet 16. 2 have national championships.

they have earned a bad season. oscar has not.

Welp, the final 4 at IU doesn't count.  Or for the matter the first Big 12 Championship in 44 years.  What a rough ridin' loser... now who would I be talking about. 

[06wildcat]

rake, where do you rank oscar among Big 12 coaches?

big 12 coaches ranked:

1. hoiberg
2. self
3. kruger
4. huggins
5. drew
6. johnson
7. barnes
8. tubby
9. weber
10. ford

So what's the risk of firing Weber this year?

[j rake]

I applaud your efforts to play devil's advocate right now but eff you are saying asinine crap attempting to do so. I have no idea how in the hell you think playing in a 10 team true round robin is harder for us to have respectable finishes than it was playing in a 12 team conference when we not only share the division but the state with the dominant team.

if any non-ku or iowa state big 12 team strings together four straight top-4 finishes from 2016 to 2019, i'll pick up the tab for fatty fest 2019.

if k-state does it, i'll lay down in the middle of aggieville and let you run me over with a bus until i'm dead.

can someone provide an estimated cost and let me know where to send? thanks.

@GoodmanESPN
VCU coach Shaka Smart has an 8 pm team meeting scheduled, sources told ESPN.

[wetwillie]

I applaud your efforts to play devil's advocate right now but eff you are saying asinine crap attempting to do so. I have no idea how in the hell you think playing in a 10 team true round robin is harder for us to have respectable finishes than it was playing in a 12 team conference when we not only share the division but the state with the dominant team.

if any non-ku or iowa state big 12 team strings together four straight top-4 finishes from 2016 to 2019, i'll pick up the tab for fatty fest 2019.

if k-state does it, i'll lay down in the middle of aggieville and let you run me over with a bus until i'm dead.

can someone provide an estimated cost and let me know where to send? thanks.

@GoodmanESPN
VCU coach Shaka Smart has an 8 pm team meeting scheduled, sources told ESPN.

don't worry about it, you couldn't afford it anyway.