Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....

[Panjandrum]

Fun fact: In 2014 (presumably) there will be 64 teams in five different conferences.

The whole 4x16 thing was based on the presumption that there would be 64 teams leaving the NCAA and starting their own association.

The assumption was the consolidation was the future, and conferences would become larger.  We'd get a playoff.

Well, it was true.  Consolidation did occur.  The Big East essentially died.  UConn, USF, and Cincy were left behind.  Utah and TCU (due to their success at the mid-major level) took their place.  Most conferences did become larger.  The Big Ten added three, the SEC added two, the Pac-12 added two, and the ACC added four.  We got a four team playoff with a preference for conference champion.

All of that stuff essentially came to pass.  No one left the NCAA, and we don't have 4 super-conferences, but the end result is, essentially, what they said it would be.

[Ira Hayes]

Fan question from Kevin Luchansky (@kpLUCH on Twitter): With realignment shaking up again, does the Pac-12 stay put or look to expand?

SCOTT: We’re not looking to expand. We intend to and hope to stay at 12 teams for the foreseeable future. I feel we’ve been at the forefront of expansion, at least the recent wave of it. Obviously realignment has been happening for decades but in the recent wave we were a very early mover. In 2011, we added Colorado and Utah and it was very strategic to get to a football championship game and in advance of our TV negotiations and in advance of possibly starting our own network. It turned out well.

We did have the opportunity last fall to evaluate further expansion opportunities. At that time it was clear to me and I told our athletic directors and presidents: We have to envision a world where peer conferences go to 14 or 16 teams. We saw that with the SEC adding Texas A&M and Missouri, the ACC was at 14. I had enough conversations with the Big Ten to know that they would at some stage likely expand. We evaluated not in the context of where the world was today but where the world is going to be five or 10 years ago and that’s a world of 14 or 16-team conferences. We decided we wanted to stay at 12.

Especially after what the Big Ten has just done, our conference makes more sense than any other from a geographic standpoint. We have the logic of natural rivals in each of the markets we’re in. We like playing each other; our schools don’t want to play each other less. The departure from the round-robin and not playing each other has required some adjustments but our priority is keeping the nine-game schedule and playing each other often.

Frankly, you can never be complacent but there’s a sense that we’re right there with any conference in the country in terms of the caliber of our TV deal both financially and exposure-wise. We’ve kind of ticked the box in terms of things we wanted to achieve so there’s no sense that we need to expand for expansion’s sake. We’re in great shape as a 12-team conference.

http://blog.pac-12.com/larry-scott-addresses-the-state-of-the-pac-12-officiating-realignment-and-more/

Utah and Colorado haven't added anything good to the PAC-12. They obviously know that.

They allowed them to have a championship game, and they provide tv markets for their network.

Right. That has been worth almost nothing extra to the schools that were in the PAC-10. Maybe less than nothing.

[0.42]

FAU, MTSU, WKU, and New Mexico State ( ) to CUSA

I hate everything

[Cartierfor3]

Fun fact: In 2014 (presumably) there will be 64 teams in five different conferences.

The whole 4x16 thing was based on the presumption that there would be 64 teams leaving the NCAA and starting their own association.

The assumption was the consolidation was the future, and conferences would become larger.  We'd get a playoff.

Well, it was true.  Consolidation did occur.  The Big East essentially died.  UConn, USF, and Cincy were left behind.  Utah and TCU (due to their success at the mid-major level) took their place.  Most conferences did become larger.  The Big Ten added three, the SEC added two, the Pac-12 added two, and the ACC added four.  We got a four team playoff with a preference for conference champion.

All of that stuff essentially came to pass.  No one left the NCAA, and we don't have 4 super-conferences, but the end result is, essentially, what they said it would be.

Notre Dame makes 65

[Panjandrum]

FAU, MTSU, WKU, and New Mexico State ( ) to CUSA

I hate everything

I haven't seen anything official for WKU and NMSU.  You serious, Clark?

[Panjandrum]

Fun fact: In 2014 (presumably) there will be 64 teams in five different conferences.

The whole 4x16 thing was based on the presumption that there would be 64 teams leaving the NCAA and starting their own association.

The assumption was the consolidation was the future, and conferences would become larger.  We'd get a playoff.

Well, it was true.  Consolidation did occur.  The Big East essentially died.  UConn, USF, and Cincy were left behind.  Utah and TCU (due to their success at the mid-major level) took their place.  Most conferences did become larger.  The Big Ten added three, the SEC added two, the Pac-12 added two, and the ACC added four.  We got a four team playoff with a preference for conference champion.

All of that stuff essentially came to pass.  No one left the NCAA, and we don't have 4 super-conferences, but the end result is, essentially, what they said it would be.

Notre Dame makes 65

Eh. Details.

[0.42]

FAU, MTSU, WKU, and New Mexico State ( ) to CUSA

I hate everything

I haven't seen anything official for WKU and NMSU.  You serious, Clark?

Lots of smoke over it on the Texas State and C-USA bbses. Hope like hell it's not official.

[Cartierfor3]

FAU, MTSU, WKU, and New Mexico State ( ) to CUSA

I hate everything

I haven't seen anything official for WKU and NMSU.  You serious, Clark?

Lots of smoke over it on the Texas State and C-USA bbses. Hope like hell it's not official.

Why does this matter to us?

[scottwildcat]

FAU, MTSU, WKU, and New Mexico State ( ) to CUSA

I hate everything

I haven't seen anything official for WKU and NMSU.  You serious, Clark?

Lots of smoke over it on the Texas State and C-USA bbses. Hope like hell it's not official.

Why does this matter to us?

only matters to TSU alum 42 really

[Cartierfor3]

FAU, MTSU, WKU, and New Mexico State ( ) to CUSA

I hate everything

I haven't seen anything official for WKU and NMSU.  You serious, Clark?

Lots of smoke over it on the Texas State and C-USA bbses. Hope like hell it's not official.

Why does this matter to us?

only matters to TSU alum 42 really

oh.  bummer dude.

[0.42]

Yeah, didn't mean to hijack the page or anything. Carry on.

[TheHamburglar]

FAU, MTSU, WKU, and New Mexico State ( ) to CUSA

I hate everything

That's a 16 team conference then.  That group of Tulsa, Rice, UAB, Marshall, UTEP, and Southern Miss are reallying getting screwed by conference realignment.  They went from being in a very good, 12 team conference to this 16 team mess.

[TheHamburglar]

Yeah, didn't mean to hijack the page or anything. Carry on.

If the WKU thing is true, does that leave the Sun Belt with 7 members after you guys and Georgia State get in?  It that right?

[0.42]

Yeah, didn't mean to hijack the page or anything. Carry on.

If the WKU thing is true, does that leave the Sun Belt with 7 members after you guys and Georgia State get in?  It that right?

yup. Sun Belt Commish Karl Benson would probably dip into the FCS pool at that point. App State ( ) and Sam Houston State (  ) have been mentioned as possible replacements.

[pissclams]

If I am reading the Dodd article right . . .

By 2014, each Big 12 school will be bringing in $34 (give or take) million a year, just off of Tier I/II/Bowls/Playoff.   Since Dennis only gave a breakdown in the purest of laymans terms, I'll assume that number includes NCAA payout and non BCS/Major bowls.   

So $34 million a year, and that doesn't include Tier III.   So at the end of the day, by 2014 most Big 12 schools will either be pushing or surpassing the $40 million mark on total media/bowls/NCAA.   In the case of Texas, they'll be pushing the $45 to $50 million dollar mark.

I'm going to start a school, join the b12, and get in on some of this goodness.

[Dugout DickStone]

I'd quit my job to enroll at pclams U

[420seriouscat69]

I'd quit my job to enroll at pclams U

I could enroll you. I know how to do that stuff. Have you filled out your FAFSA yet? I might be able to get you some grants. 

[Gooch]

[pissclams]

I'd quit my job to enroll at pclams U

this is your notice of acceptance

[Dugout DickStone]

I'd quit my job to enroll at pclams U

this is your notice of acceptance

Can I start a gE frat?

[MakeItRain]

Fun fact: In 2014 (presumably) there will be 64 teams in five different conferences.

The whole 4x16 thing was based on the presumption that there would be 64 teams leaving the NCAA and starting their own association.

The assumption was the consolidation was the future, and conferences would become larger.  We'd get a playoff.

Well, it was true.  Consolidation did occur.  The Big East essentially died.  UConn, USF, and Cincy were left behind.  Utah and TCU (due to their success at the mid-major level) took their place.  Most conferences did become larger.  The Big Ten added three, the SEC added two, the Pac-12 added two, and the ACC added four.  We got a four team playoff with a preference for conference champion.

All of that stuff essentially came to pass.  No one left the NCAA, and we don't have 4 super-conferences, but the end result is, essentially, what they said it would be.

Notre Dame makes 65

Cincinnati is going to find a home

[pissclams]

I'd quit my job to enroll at pclams U

this is your notice of acceptance

Can I start a gE frat?

i'll bring the suggestion to the student council

[thebigcatbowski]

The Dude of WV ?@theDudeofWV B12 makes play for 4 from ACC.

The Dude of WV ?@theDudeofWV @charlie3279 The best - FSU, Clemson, GT, Miami.

The Dude of WV ?@theDudeofWV @net0man Later.. about 1 pm.

Calling his shot.

[MadCat]

The Dude of WV ?@theDudeofWV B12 makes play for 4 from ACC.

The Dude of WV ?@theDudeofWV @charlie3279 The best - FSU, Clemson, GT, Miami.

The Dude of WV ?@theDudeofWV @net0man Later.. about 1 pm.

Calling his shot.

To be clear... The Dude will release more details at 1pm (EST I'm guessing)

[slobber]

From a local sports radio show last night. Didn't get the guys name, but he was a spokesman for the ACC:

Louisville is an excellent pick up for the ACC. We would like to think that things will settle down now, but over the past couple of years we have had several schools very interested in joining the ACC. Schools like Cincinnati and Navy. So this puts as in a very strong position through this conference realignment process to know that we have quality big name schools wanting to join our conference.