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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #21800 on: September 12, 2012, 11:29:54 AM »
Guys, you can't just up exit fees.  Just like you can't crap out a pre-nup after the vows have been read.

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« Reply #21801 on: September 12, 2012, 11:30:20 AM »
In the existing ACC schools didn't agree to and sign anything

where are you getting this?

The ACC official that claimed that the exit fee would take effect "today".  There's no way in hell that all of the schools approved a contract and inked it.  Plus, I don't believe the current ACC contract is retroactive regarding increase in exit fees.

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« Reply #21802 on: September 12, 2012, 11:30:41 AM »
villanova to ACC


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« Reply #21803 on: September 12, 2012, 11:31:29 AM »
Was there a meeting in Tulsa?  That will tell us how serious this is.

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« Reply #21804 on: September 12, 2012, 11:31:35 AM »
In the existing ACC schools didn't agree to and sign anything

where are you getting this?

I think he meant IF, not in.
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #21805 on: September 12, 2012, 11:32:11 AM »
In the existing ACC schools didn't agree to and sign anything

where are you getting this?

The ACC official that claimed that the exit fee would take effect "today".  There's no way in hell that all of the schools approved a contract and inked it.  Plus, I don't believe the current ACC contract is retroactive regarding increase in exit fees.

In the Big 12 if the majority of schools agree to up the exit fee, they can.  You doubt that the majority of ACC schools failed to agree to upped exit fees?  You are nuts.  FSU is the only one would balk.

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« Reply #21806 on: September 12, 2012, 11:36:22 AM »
In the existing ACC schools didn't agree to and sign anything

where are you getting this?

The ACC official that claimed that the exit fee would take effect "today".  There's no way in hell that all of the schools approved a contract and inked it.  Plus, I don't believe the current ACC contract is retroactive regarding increase in exit fees.

In the Big 12 if the majority of schools agree to up the exit fee, they can.  You doubt that the majority of ACC schools failed to agree to upped exit fees?  You are nuts.  FSU is the only one would balk.

Yep, looks like the ACC Council of President's voted on and approved the $50 million exit fee concurrent or before the announcement.

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« Reply #21807 on: September 12, 2012, 11:36:27 AM »
The other piece of this is the Big East's deal with ESPN.  If ESPN reopens the negotiations with the ACC for Notre Dame (and they have to), this probably means taking money from the Big East and giving it to the ACC, which also probably means the chances of Big East football and basketball landing on different networks (i.e. NBC, NBC Sports Network) goes up.

This could mean that ESPN would be willing to overpay for a school or two (UConn, Louisville, Rutgers, etc.) to put them onto our platform.

They big, big key here is how much money we'll lose from a split in revenue.  ESPN and Fox can prevent that in Tier 1/Tier 2.  ESPN can most likely prevent that with the Champions Bowl and Bowl game tie in money.

Basically, this could be a domino in ESPN's way of trying to kill the Big East because they know that the Big East doesn't want to play in their sandbox any more.

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« Reply #21808 on: September 12, 2012, 11:37:00 AM »
Well even if they didn't agree to it but the rest of the ACC voted for it, could FSU still get it negotiated down to a manageable number? :ohno:
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« Reply #21809 on: September 12, 2012, 11:38:13 AM »
Relax.  We are solid for the next 13 years with just 10 teams. 

Content production and distribution will be vastly different in 2025.  For right now, KSU just needs to focus on playing some football and building their brand.

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« Reply #21810 on: September 12, 2012, 11:40:07 AM »
We should probably be committing most of today to riling up fans on FSU message boards, right?

Also.................



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"walking around mhk and crying in the rain because of love lost is the absolute purest and best thing in the world.  i hope i fall in love during the next few weeks and get my heart broken and it starts raining just to experience it one last time."   --Dlew12

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« Reply #21811 on: September 12, 2012, 11:40:58 AM »
Relax.  We are solid for the next 13 years with just 10 teams. 

Content production and distribution will be vastly different in 2025.  For right now, KSU just needs to focus on playing some football and building their brand.

Will NOT relax. Want to go watch the ksu duplex purple wildcats to go play in a giant beautiful night game at Florida State.
"walking around mhk and crying in the rain because of love lost is the absolute purest and best thing in the world.  i hope i fall in love during the next few weeks and get my heart broken and it starts raining just to experience it one last time."   --Dlew12

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« Reply #21812 on: September 12, 2012, 11:43:38 AM »
It'll be interesting how the 27 month notice to the Big East will play into everything as well.  No timeline has been established, other then ND is going.  This timeframe could allow things to get ugly over the next couple of months and allow ACC teams to plan to bail.     

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« Reply #21813 on: September 12, 2012, 11:44:11 AM »
It's over.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #21814 on: September 12, 2012, 11:48:02 AM »
It was a hell of a ride.

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« Reply #21815 on: September 12, 2012, 11:48:04 AM »
On FSU board, Mods are deleting any posts that suggest they will go to Big XII.  :sdeek:
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« Reply #21816 on: September 12, 2012, 11:51:04 AM »
You have to think they're doing cartwheels in Provo right about now.

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« Reply #21817 on: September 12, 2012, 11:51:38 AM »
Meanwhile...Google Fiber just added the Longhorn Network to Kansas City.

http://googlefiberblog.blogspot.com/2012/09/update-on-google-fiber-tv-channel-lineup.html

Every little thing that ties us closer to Texas is good.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #21818 on: September 12, 2012, 11:52:25 AM »
You have to think they're doing cartwheels in Provo right about now.

I don't think that is allowed.

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« Reply #21819 on: September 12, 2012, 11:52:37 AM »
On FSU board, Mods are deleting any posts that suggest they will go to Big XII.  :sdeek:

Now it's over

Although I still think we will get back to 12 with Louisville and another school just to add the CCG. ESPN and fox in turn will keep our money per school the same.

IMO having a CCG will become an important part of the new playoff system (unless you are ND)
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« Reply #21820 on: September 12, 2012, 11:55:10 AM »
On FSU board, Mods are deleting any posts that suggest they will go to Big XII.  :sdeek:

Not on Warchant.  I am on the premium board, and they are answering my questions.

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« Reply #21821 on: September 12, 2012, 11:56:16 AM »
Okay, so far, Bowlsby sucks ass.

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« Reply #21822 on: September 12, 2012, 11:56:36 AM »
till think we will get back to 12 with Louisville and another school just to add the CCG. ESPN and fox in turn will keep our money per school the same.

IMO having a CCG will become an important part of the new playoff system (unless you are ND)

How?

It has no bearing in the upcoming 4-team playoff.  None. Zip. Zero. 

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« Reply #21823 on: September 12, 2012, 11:57:04 AM »
Okay, so far, Bowlsby sucks ass.

Chum1, this is a very, very exclusive fraternity....

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« Reply #21824 on: September 12, 2012, 11:57:25 AM »
On FSU board, Mods are deleting any posts that suggest they will go to Big XII.  :sdeek:

Not on Warchant.  I am on the premium board, and they are answering my questions.
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