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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #15450 on: October 05, 2011, 10:58:15 PM »
Chip tweeting that Texas has agreed to not air any high school content including highlights.

So, like, couple that with 13 year grant of rights and let's play sum footballllll.

UT doesn't want to concede HS content and go from 6 year GOR to 13 GOR.  There stance right now is either/or.  Early today their stance was HS content no matter what, so we will give 13 year GOR. They made a concession to do away with HS content, but dropped the 13 year GOR back to 6 year GOR.  Good negotiating tactic, but they may still concede to 13 year GOR if that's what it takes.

What upsets me about it is that it's like they're just doing it to be difficult.

42 is right.  They just want to win because...well, they just want to win even if it's a stupid argument.  They're like the most annoying girlfriend in the world.

according to Mike DeArmond on twitter UT is just trying to pull a bait and switch because of the pending ruling of the NCAA on high school content.

i thought NCAA had already ruled LHN could broadcast HS highlights

If Mizzou honestly thinks the NCAA is going to rule against it anyway, then why do they give a crap about it?  Mike's just  :drink: and pandering to his meth-head base rather than be a real journalist.
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« Reply #15451 on: October 05, 2011, 11:25:44 PM »
Not that it wasnt easy enough already, but soon, very soon, the cornicopia of insulting poetry ammo that any given person will be able to throw at MU fan will be near infinite.

Serious question - how does Alden/Deaton survive this if they come back to the BigXII? Wont some crazed lynch mob (no relation), blacked out on porn and meth, ya know, lynch them?

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« Reply #15452 on: October 05, 2011, 11:37:59 PM »
Not that it wasnt easy enough already, but soon, very soon, the cornicopia of insulting poetry ammo that any given person will be able to throw at MU fan will be near infinite.

Serious question - how does Alden/Deaton survive this if they come back to the BigXII? Wont some crazed lynch mob (no relation), blacked out on porn and meth, ya know, lynch them?
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« Reply #15453 on: October 05, 2011, 11:42:09 PM »
The way this is unfolding, I don't think it has anything to do with LHN or SEC.  It's still all about the Big 10 for them.  Last night, the curators vote and say, "Hey, Big 10, let's talk!"  Tonight, every headline says, "Hey, Big 10, it's Mizz again.  You know I always loved you the most!"  They don't want to sign on with the Big 12 right now because then they wouldn't be able to leave for the Big 10 when their dream invitation comes along.  So, they're trying to force the issue.

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« Reply #15454 on: October 06, 2011, 12:00:55 AM »
The way this is unfolding, I don't think it has anything to do with LHN or SEC.  It's still all about the Big 10 for them.  Last night, the curators vote and say, "Hey, Big 10, let's talk!"  Tonight, every headline says, "Hey, Big 10, it's Mizz again.  You know I always loved you the most!"  They don't want to sign on with the Big 12 right now because then they wouldn't be able to leave for the Big 10 when their dream invitation comes along.  So, they're trying to force the issue.

This seems like what's happening to me too. MU to the SEC just doesn't feel right (other than the Deliverance Cup). Why would any MU fan in their right mind (I know that's the problem) want to go to the SEC when the BXII is still alive and actually looking to lock down some stability? The best they can hope for in the SEC is to become another Kentucky and occasionally have a "1 win away from the championship game" season and be one of the better basketball teams.

They're like the girl that's actually kinda fugly, but she puts on a crap ton of makeup and whores herself out hoping to land the dreamy guy who is actually repulsed by her.

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« Reply #15455 on: October 06, 2011, 01:21:59 AM »
Sure wish Beth Mendenhall would lead an effort to rid the world of these tired, misogynistic conference defection/date rape analogies.

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« Reply #15456 on: October 06, 2011, 07:53:21 AM »
NYT's Pete Thamel on 810 this morning asked how Mizzou would do in the SEC

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« Reply #15457 on: October 06, 2011, 07:58:08 AM »
MU isn't going anywhere.  they are taking their turn bluffing Texas.  everyone with any pull (not ku, ksu, baylor, isu) is obligated to do so.  they will hold out for the Big 10 to the end.

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« Reply #15458 on: October 06, 2011, 08:11:26 AM »
MU isn't going anywhere.  they are taking their turn bluffing Texas.  everyone with any pull (not ku, ksu, baylor, isu) is obligated to do so.  they will hold out for the Big 10 to the end.

that makes the most logical sense.  but if they get the 13 years grant-of-rights that cuts them off at the knees for a Big 10 move.  i guess if the Big 10 and Mizzou want each other bad enough they have enough cash to cover the loss of revenue.

BITB was arguing that Mizzou hadn't done anything like aTm had done to go beyond the point of no return.  Pinkel has been the one who has been most blatant.  maybe he knows he can take over at Ohio St if he doesn't get what he wants (out of the Big 12)

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« Reply #15459 on: October 06, 2011, 08:14:01 AM »
MU isn't going anywhere.  they are taking their turn bluffing Texas.  everyone with any pull (not ku, ksu, baylor, isu) is obligated to do so.  they will hold out for the Big 10 to the end.

that makes the most logical sense.  but if they get the 13 years grant-of-rights that cuts them off at the knees for a Big 10 move.  i guess if the Big 10 and Mizzou want each other bad enough they have enough cash to cover the loss of revenue.

BITB was arguing that Mizzou hadn't done anything like aTm had done to go beyond the point of no return.  Pinkel has been the one who has been most blatant.  maybe he knows he can take over at Ohio St if he doesn't get what he wants (out of the Big 12)

but really, would the big 10 network even give a crap about the last 13 years of MU sports?  Play their history and load up on their current sports to offset all their classic game bullshit they always play.  and, they could always negotiate with the Big 12 to buy the rights to the last 13 years of footage.  it's not like the Big 12 is going to use it (reminds me that they need to get the stupid aggie bullshit off of all of the big 12 promos they are currently running)

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« Reply #15460 on: October 06, 2011, 08:18:16 AM »
I don't understand why UT has to "concede" HS content. Can't the conference simply get a majority vote for "no high school content" on 3rd tier media and be done with it?
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« Reply #15461 on: October 06, 2011, 08:26:00 AM »
MU isn't going anywhere.  they are taking their turn bluffing Texas.  everyone with any pull (not ku, ksu, baylor, isu) is obligated to do so.  they will hold out for the Big 10 to the end.

that makes the most logical sense.  but if they get the 13 years grant-of-rights that cuts them off at the knees for a Big 10 move.  i guess if the Big 10 and Mizzou want each other bad enough they have enough cash to cover the loss of revenue.

BITB was arguing that Mizzou hadn't done anything like aTm had done to go beyond the point of no return.  Pinkel has been the one who has been most blatant.  maybe he knows he can take over at Ohio St if he doesn't get what he wants (out of the Big 12)

but really, would the big 10 network even give a crap about the last 13 years of MU sports?  Play their history and load up on their current sports to offset all their classic game bullshit they always play.  and, they could always negotiate with the Big 12 to buy the rights to the last 13 years of footage.  it's not like the Big 12 is going to use it (reminds me that they need to get the stupid aggie bullshit off of all of the big 12 promos they are currently running)

scenario:  Mizzou signs on to 13 year g-o-r.  10 years from now they move to Big 10.

in years 11,12,13 aren't all their tier 1/ tier 2 dollars going to go to big 12?

that's what i thought the grant-of-rights meant.

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« Reply #15462 on: October 06, 2011, 08:29:06 AM »
I believe it means that they grant the rights to their past 13 years, not future. 

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« Reply #15463 on: October 06, 2011, 08:33:19 AM »
I believe it means that they grant the rights to their past 13 years, not future. 

I don't think so.  It is granting the next 13 years of rights.

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« Reply #15464 on: October 06, 2011, 08:34:30 AM »
I believe it means that they grant the rights to their past 13 years, not future. 

I hope you are joking.  If not you should really see a doctor about the blow to the head you took because you're not making any sense.

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« Reply #15465 on: October 06, 2011, 08:35:37 AM »
I believe it means that they grant the rights to their past 13 years, not future. 

I hope you are joking.  If not you should really see a doctor about the blow to the head you took because you're not making any sense.

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« Reply #15466 on: October 06, 2011, 08:37:13 AM »
steve dave seems to be the only one who thinks that.  .

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« Reply #15467 on: October 06, 2011, 08:37:53 AM »
steve dave seems to be the only one who thinks that.  .

well then, appears I was wrong

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« Reply #15468 on: October 06, 2011, 08:39:08 AM »
I believe it means that they grant the rights to their past 13 years, not future. 

Yea, Steve the Grant Rights thing that they are wanting people to sign will say that all Tier 1 and Tier 2 revenue for the next (6 right now with the push for 13) would go to the Big 12 conference and then the Big 12 would hand out the money equally.  Funny thing is it will not stop a school from going to another conference in that they can go it just any game that schools plays that is part of tier 1 or tier 2, the money would go to the Big 12 not the new conference. Interesting point would be if said school would still get its equal distribution from the Big 12 if they left.
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« Reply #15469 on: October 06, 2011, 08:45:06 AM »
This whole Mizzou going to the SEC is a little like the episode of the Office where Pam tricks her way into being office administrator. No one cares if they leave but there really isn't any place to go.

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« Reply #15470 on: October 06, 2011, 08:47:03 AM »
This whole Mizzou going to the SEC is a little like the episode of the Office where Pam tricks her way into being office administrator. No one cares if they leave but there really isn't any place to go.

I think they can go to the SEC if they want to

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« Reply #15471 on: October 06, 2011, 08:48:43 AM »
I believe it means that they grant the rights to their past 13 years, not future.  
Interesting point would be if said school would still get its equal distribution from the Big 12 if they left.

So really, the GOR is less an incentive to stay, and more a disincentive for another conference to take them.  For example if MU left for the Big 10 in 7 years, they would get the exact same split they had been getting, but the Big 10 would see none of the MU revenue for 6 years, so they wouldn't touch them presumably.  If it happened anyway (which doesn't seem likely) the interesting thing would be whether or not the tier 1/2 Big 10 networks would air MU content that would be sending money to the Big 12.
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« Reply #15473 on: October 06, 2011, 09:05:01 AM »
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« Reply #15474 on: October 06, 2011, 09:06:23 AM »
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