Author Topic: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can.... (Read 5014827 times)

kcchiefdav · « **Reply #14925 on:** October 02, 2011, 05:31:48 PM »

Quote from: Trim on October 02, 2011, 05:13:48 PM

Quote from: MakeItRain on October 02, 2011, 05:09:14 PM
Quote from: jtksu on October 02, 2011, 11:39:27 AM
Round robin is pretty legit. Guess it would be cool to be looking at a possible (weak) Big 12 North champy bid though.

Winning a weak division does nothing for the winner as evidenced by the South division winning the last 7 conference titles.

Yeah, but playing in a weak division lets us say stuff like "one win away from a spot in the Big 12 championship game."

I'm in the camp that thinks there's something to be said for making a championship game even if you don't win it. Especially as long as KU has never played in it.

Pete · « **Reply #14926 on:** October 02, 2011, 05:41:24 PM »

Quote from: A-Lishious on October 02, 2011, 01:04:01 PM

This is the single greatest thread on the realignment crap on the whole interwebs.

Also, good W yesterday Katz.

Thanks and thanks, bro.

jtksu · « **Reply #14927 on:** October 02, 2011, 05:48:01 PM »

Just saying we could win the North this year and actually play for the CC. Probably the only way we see a BCS bowl in the near future.

slackcat · « **Reply #14928 on:** October 02, 2011, 06:39:08 PM »

Quote from: jtksu on October 02, 2011, 05:48:01 PM

Just saying we could win the North this year and actually play for the CC. Probably the only way we see a BCS bowl in the near future.

catzacker · « **Reply #14929 on:** October 02, 2011, 07:27:33 PM »

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@robcassidy22: Big 12 interim commissioner Chuck Neinas will speak with the media tomorrow morning. I imagine he will speak on planned expansion.

Pete · « **Reply #14930 on:** October 02, 2011, 07:40:14 PM »

Quote from: catzacker on October 02, 2011, 07:27:33 PM

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@robcassidy22: Big 12 interim commissioner Chuck Neinas will speak with the media tomorrow morning. I imagine he will speak on planned expansion.

I wonder if he comments on how much TCU sucks now?

Panjandrum · « **Reply #14931 on:** October 02, 2011, 08:06:31 PM »

I can't remember who said it, but someone tweeted that they were optimistic MU would stay in the Big 12.

Also, Pete Thamel spoke with Jim Delany at length last night, and he said the Big Ten is not expanding any time soon.

wabash909 · « **Reply #14932 on:** October 02, 2011, 08:21:43 PM »

@ChipBrownOB: A B12 administrator is optimistic about Mizzou staying in the league after today's 1:30 pm conference call w/ B12 presidents.

Panjandrum · « **Reply #14933 on:** October 02, 2011, 08:25:37 PM »

Quote from: wabash909 on October 02, 2011, 08:21:43 PM

@ChipBrownOB: A B12 administrator is optimistic about Mizzou staying in the league after today's 1:30 pm conference call w/ B12 presidents.

Yeah, that's it. Ralph Russo had a bunch of stuff retweeted from the Big East side of things. Yada yada, presidents committed, yada yada, aggressive expansion.

And we just sit and twiddle our thumbs while Mizzou takes their sweet time.

MakeItRain · « **Reply #14934 on:** October 02, 2011, 08:51:06 PM »

Quote from: kcchiefdav on October 02, 2011, 05:31:48 PM

Quote from: Trim on October 02, 2011, 05:13:48 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on October 02, 2011, 05:09:14 PM
Quote from: jtksu on October 02, 2011, 11:39:27 AM
Round robin is pretty legit. Guess it would be cool to be looking at a possible (weak) Big 12 North champy bid though.

Winning a weak division does nothing for the winner as evidenced by the South division winning the last 7 conference titles.

Yeah, but playing in a weak division lets us say stuff like "one win away from a spot in the Big 12 championship game."

I'm in the camp that thinks there's something to be said for making a championship game even if you don't win it. Especially as long as KU has never played in it.

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=3457.msg358931#msg358931

Belvis Noland · « **Reply #14935 on:** October 02, 2011, 09:15:39 PM »

Quote from: jtksu on October 02, 2011, 05:48:01 PM

Just saying we could win the North this year and actually play for the CC. Probably the only way we see a BCS bowl in the near future.

Not including next year?

jtksu · « **Reply #14936 on:** October 02, 2011, 09:24:20 PM »

I don't see us winning the round robin Big 12 next year. I could see us beating an OU, UT, A&M, etc but not winning 8 league games, which you probably need to win the confy.

kcchiefdav · « **Reply #14937 on:** October 02, 2011, 10:22:13 PM »

Quote from: MakeItRain on October 02, 2011, 08:51:06 PM

Quote from: kcchiefdav on October 02, 2011, 05:31:48 PM
Quote from: Trim on October 02, 2011, 05:13:48 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on October 02, 2011, 05:09:14 PM
Quote from: jtksu on October 02, 2011, 11:39:27 AM
Round robin is pretty legit. Guess it would be cool to be looking at a possible (weak) Big 12 North champy bid though.

Winning a weak division does nothing for the winner as evidenced by the South division winning the last 7 conference titles.

Yeah, but playing in a weak division lets us say stuff like "one win away from a spot in the Big 12 championship game."

I'm in the camp that thinks there's something to be said for making a championship game even if you don't win it. Especially as long as KU has never played in it.

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=3457.msg358931#msg358931

Panjandrum · « **Reply #14938 on:** October 02, 2011, 10:42:14 PM »

You can't even save these idiots from themselves.

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Mizzou2SEC Mizzou Nation
Rumor: Deaton pushing to stay in #Big12 ... if true, it's like a self-inflicted "fifth down" for #Mizzou ... bit.ly/obbIBS

KITNfury · « **Reply #14939 on:** October 03, 2011, 06:01:55 AM »

Quote from: Panjandrum on October 02, 2011, 10:42:14 PM

You can't even save these idiots from themselves.

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Mizzou2SEC Mizzou Nation
Rumor: Deaton pushing to stay in #Big12 ... if true, it's like a self-inflicted "fifth down" for #Mizzou ... bit.ly/obbIBS

Their entire fanbase wants to go.

kcchiefdav · « **Reply #14940 on:** October 03, 2011, 07:07:21 AM »

Quote from: KITNfury on October 03, 2011, 06:01:55 AM

Quote from: Panjandrum on October 02, 2011, 10:42:14 PM
You can't even save these idiots from themselves.

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Mizzou2SEC Mizzou Nation
Rumor: Deaton pushing to stay in #Big12 ... if true, it's like a self-inflicted "fifth down" for #Mizzou ... bit.ly/obbIBS
Their entire fanbase wants to go.

You're right. You'd think people would settle down with this "the grass is always greener" bullshit after what happened to Nubby on Saturday.

wabash909 · « **Reply #14941 on:** October 03, 2011, 07:13:13 AM »

Quote from: kcchiefdav on October 03, 2011, 07:07:21 AM

Quote from: KITNfury on October 03, 2011, 06:01:55 AM
Quote from: Panjandrum on October 02, 2011, 10:42:14 PM
You can't even save these idiots from themselves.

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Mizzou2SEC Mizzou Nation
Rumor: Deaton pushing to stay in #Big12 ... if true, it's like a self-inflicted "fifth down" for #Mizzou ... bit.ly/obbIBS
Their entire fanbase wants to go.

You're right. You'd think people would settle down with this "the grass is always greener" bullshit after what happened to Nubby on Saturday.

You would think. But, you should never underestimate the collective idiocy of the MU fan base.

WillieWatanabe · « **Reply #14942 on:** October 03, 2011, 09:46:33 AM »

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McMurphyCBS Brett McMurphy
Big 12 announces it will equally distribute all Tier I and Tier II revenue

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McMurphyCBS Brett McMurphy
Action by Big 12 becomes effective after each institution commits grant of rights to conference for Tier I/II at least 6 years

Panjandrum · « **Reply #14943 on:** October 03, 2011, 09:51:45 AM »

Quote from: WillieWatanabe on October 03, 2011, 09:46:33 AM

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McMurphyCBS Brett McMurphy
Big 12 announces it will equally distribute all Tier I and Tier II revenue

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McMurphyCBS Brett McMurphy
Action by Big 12 becomes effective after each institution commits grant of rights to conference for Tier I/II at least 6 years

I think the sticking point will end up being how we handle Tier 3 money. Do we really use the 'pool' system? I don't see how that flies for Texas, but who knows?

This is a 'duh' moment that we knew was coming. I'm not sure it resolves anything.

Panjandrum · « **Reply #14944 on:** October 03, 2011, 09:53:32 AM »

From the Big 12...

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Big 12 Conference Board of Directors Action

IRVING, TX - The Big 12 Conference Board of Directors today announced adoption of a position to equally distribute all conference related distributable revenue to include Tier I and II football television, men's basketball television and NCAA men's basketball tournament revenues. This action becomes effective after each member institution commits a grant of rights to the Conference for its Tier I and II television rights for at least six years.

It is recognized by the Board that each member is directed by institutional policy relative to pursuing its grant of rights and that process will commence expeditiously at the institutional level.

The Board is encouraged by the number of institutions indicating interest in the Big 12, which reflects positively on the standing of the Conference within intercollegiate athletics. The Board also looks forward to considering the recommendation of the expansion committee regarding future membership options.

Read more: http://campuscorner.kansascity.com/node/2099#ixzz1ZjMXvWvu

mcmwcat · « **Reply #14945 on:** October 03, 2011, 09:53:52 AM »

Quote from: WillieWatanabe on October 03, 2011, 09:46:33 AM

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McMurphyCBS Brett McMurphy
Big 12 announces it will equally distribute all Tier I and Tier II revenue

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McMurphyCBS Brett McMurphy
Action by Big 12 becomes effective after each institution commits grant of rights to conference for Tier I/II at least 6 years

so any team leaving will forfeit 6 years of revenue after leaving conference?

"storm"nut · « **Reply #14946 on:** October 03, 2011, 09:59:31 AM »

Quote from: mcmwcat on October 03, 2011, 09:53:52 AM

Quote from: WillieWatanabe on October 03, 2011, 09:46:33 AM
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McMurphyCBS Brett McMurphy
Big 12 announces it will equally distribute all Tier I and Tier II revenue

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McMurphyCBS Brett McMurphy
Action by Big 12 becomes effective after each institution commits grant of rights to conference for Tier I/II at least 6 years

so any team leaving will forfeit 6 years of revenue after leaving conference?

yep.

WillieWatanabe · « **Reply #14947 on:** October 03, 2011, 10:04:35 AM »

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sptwri Mike DeArmond
B 12 2 tier revenue share is olive branch w/o leaves. Giving what was already anticipated to be given. Takes more give than that.

lol

Panjandrum · « **Reply #14948 on:** October 03, 2011, 10:07:34 AM »

Quote from: WillieWatanabe on October 03, 2011, 10:04:35 AM

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sptwri Mike DeArmond
B 12 2 tier revenue share is olive branch w/o leaves. Giving what was already anticipated to be given. Takes more give than that.

lol

He's right, though. We knew this was coming. This isn't Missouri's concern. They've got some serious Pinkel butt hurt over the LHN.

My guess is that there's an element of truth to what someone said Bob Strawn posted earlier. BlackCats on BOTC said the same thing. There is a desire out there for portions of Tier 3 revenue to go into a pool for equal distribution. They think it will take some of the bite out of the LHN.

CNS · « **Reply #14949 on:** October 03, 2011, 10:12:44 AM »

The whole Tier 3 thing is so Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) to me. Just don't let them have HS ball on it, and then get the eff out the way.

It is the ultimate "I wish I was as good as them" butt hurt. Not like MU or anyone else has contributed a damn thing to making TX something that would sell a lot of Tier 3 content, so why should Mu or anyone else get any of it?

If the conf wants to remain butt hurt, just don't play on their network w/o getting paid.

Shouldn't be hard.