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« Reply #12700 on: September 19, 2011, 12:04:19 PM »
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let's see how almighty that KS BOR is now

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« Reply #12701 on: September 19, 2011, 12:04:54 PM »
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@wilnerhotline Source: Pac-12 has Missouri on its radar.

let's see how almighty that KS BOR is now

PAC 12 has a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) radar. So Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) we are even on it and they were willing to take Baylor just to get Texas, last year.

They were never willing to take Baylor.  Ever.  Ever ever never.

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« Reply #12702 on: September 19, 2011, 12:05:30 PM »
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@wilnerhotline Source: Pac-12 has Missouri on its radar.

let's see how almighty that KS BOR is now

PAC 12 has a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) radar. So Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) we are even on it and they were willing to take Baylor just to get Texas, last year.

They were never willing to take Baylor.  Ever.  Ever ever never.

yeah, baylor was never an option

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« Reply #12703 on: September 19, 2011, 12:06:25 PM »
Guys -- you can dream all you want. We're not going to the PAC, big 10, ACC or SEC. Hold out hope as long as you want, but it's not going to happen.   :cry: We either make the best of what we can w/ the rest of the Big East, or go join the MWC. Stinks, but that's where we're at. Best we can hope for is that we can become the 5th power conference (lowest rung on the big boy ladder).

As a side note, if Currie doesn't stop talking about being "committed to the BigXII" very very soon, I'm going to become even more  :curse: .

no prob.  will continue dreaming

and why are you mad at currie. if we have no shot at any other conference then shouldn't he be solely committed to big 12?

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« Reply #12704 on: September 19, 2011, 12:07:22 PM »
TCU has to be foaming at the mouth to join up with BIG 12 leftovers + plus whipping boys, if other conferences stop expanding at 12 or 14 teams. Conference would retain BCS AQ status and their travel budget just shrunk by a huge amount.

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« Reply #12705 on: September 19, 2011, 12:09:50 PM »
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@wilnerhotline Source: Pac-12 has Missouri on its radar.

let's see how almighty that KS BOR is now

PAC 12 has a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) radar. So Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) we are even on it and they were willing to take Baylor just to get Texas, last year.

They were never willing to take Baylor.  Ever.  Ever ever never.

yeah, baylor was never an option

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« Reply #12706 on: September 19, 2011, 12:16:38 PM »
most likely stupid question...is there any scenario where we can collect a boatload of exit fees?

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« Reply #12707 on: September 19, 2011, 12:17:17 PM »
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« Reply #12708 on: September 19, 2011, 12:20:01 PM »

Yes.  SEC will say “either you (ku) comes w/out ksu or we go get UL”.  Because UL would be an entirely better option than KSU.  Entirely.  I’m not even convinced that the sec will go to 16 with the options available.  Who cares if the pac goes to 16 or the ACC goes to 16? Like the SEC is going to be like “wow, we can’t compete, we’re no longer the best football conference w/out KU and KSU”.  GMAFB.   And I don’t care about the scheduling issues that a 14 team league will have, but it is not a deal breaker,  it’s not mission impossible.  When the SEC offers a life raft for just one person, you don’t choose to drown.  

Yeah, I'm starting to think in this round we're probably not going to see all the conferences go full on 16 like the PAC will.

Larry Scott appears to really have a hard on for being the first super conference, and it might make some degree of sense that the others will use it as litmus test for the next couple of seasons while they incrementally add their pieces, if there aren't particularly good options on the table to choose from, i.e. K-State, KU, Louisiville, etc.  The big problem is the 7 team division scheduling but there are ways to get around it

The ACC, SEC, could go to 14, theoretically. Big 10 could stay pat at 12 for a while as they work the Notre Dame angle.

I also agree that UofL is a much better fit with the SEC than K-State.  Their facilities absolutely blow ours out of the water.  The downtown arena is the best collegiate venue in America, bar none.  They're South of the Mason Dixon and culturally they fit the bill.  They have multiple national championships to their credit in basketball, and UoL / Kentucky is already one of the greatest rivalries in the game.  Their football for the most part sucks outside of the Petrino years but they do have a new and bigger stadium at 60K.  They also have big time political power in Kentucky that will lobby the sh*t out of it, if the SEC does become a possibility. If you're looking at Apples to Apples comparison, they across the board would be a better fit.  They're basically University of Kentucky on an urban campus.  There also is the precedent to take a city school - look at Vanderbilt in Nashville.


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« Reply #12709 on: September 19, 2011, 12:20:50 PM »
so, let me get this straight stormnut....you follow d. scott fritchen but not austin meek on twitter?  

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« Reply #12710 on: September 19, 2011, 12:22:23 PM »
so, let me get this straight stormnut....you follow d. scott fritchen but not austin meek on twitter?  

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« Reply #12711 on: September 19, 2011, 12:22:38 PM »
so, let me get this straight stormnut....you follow d. scott fritchen but not austin meek on twitter?  

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« Reply #12714 on: September 19, 2011, 12:31:37 PM »
I also agree that UofL is a much better fit with the SEC than K-State.  Their facilities absolutely blow ours out of the water.  The downtown arena is the best collegiate venue in America, bar none.  They're South of the Mason Dixon and culturally they fit the bill.  They have multiple national championships to their credit in basketball, and UoL / Kentucky is already one of the greatest rivalries in the game.  Their football for the most part sucks outside of the Petrino years but they do have a new and bigger stadium at 60K.  They also have big time political power in Kentucky that will lobby the sh*t out of it, if the SEC does become a possibility. If you're looking at Apples to Apples comparison, they across the board would be a better fit.  They're basically University of Kentucky on an urban campus.  There also is the precedent to take a city school - look at Vanderbilt in Nashville.

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« Reply #12715 on: September 19, 2011, 12:33:53 PM »
i think that the MWC is the best option for K-State at this point.  not sure if there is any interest from the MWC but if there is- we need to sign on the dotted line asap.


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« Reply #12718 on: September 19, 2011, 12:37:15 PM »

Yes.  SEC will say “either you (ku) comes w/out ksu or we go get UL”.  Because UL would be an entirely better option than KSU.  Entirely.  I’m not even convinced that the sec will go to 16 with the options available.  Who cares if the pac goes to 16 or the ACC goes to 16? Like the SEC is going to be like “wow, we can’t compete, we’re no longer the best football conference w/out KU and KSU”.  GMAFB.   And I don’t care about the scheduling issues that a 14 team league will have, but it is not a deal breaker,  it’s not mission impossible.  When the SEC offers a life raft for just one person, you don’t choose to drown.  

Yeah, I'm starting to think in this round we're probably not going to see all the conferences go full on 16 like the PAC will.

Larry Scott appears to really have a hard on for being the first super conference, and it might make some degree of sense that the others will use it as litmus test for the next couple of seasons while they incrementally add their pieces, if there aren't particularly good options on the table to choose from, i.e. K-State, KU, Louisiville, etc.  The big problem is the 7 team division scheduling but there are ways to get around it

The ACC, SEC, could go to 14, theoretically. Big 10 could stay pat at 12 for a while as they work the Notre Dame angle.

I also agree that UofL is a much better fit with the SEC than K-State.  Their facilities absolutely blow ours out of the water.  The downtown arena is the best collegiate venue in America, bar none.  They're South of the Mason Dixon and culturally they fit the bill.  They have multiple national championships to their credit in basketball, and UoL / Kentucky is already one of the greatest rivalries in the game.  Their football for the most part sucks outside of the Petrino years but they do have a new and bigger stadium at 60K.  They also have big time political power in Kentucky that will lobby the sh*t out of it, if the SEC does become a possibility. If you're looking at Apples to Apples comparison, they across the board would be a better fit.  They're basically University of Kentucky on an urban campus.  There also is the precedent to take a city school - look at Vanderbilt in Nashville.




I feel pretty positive that if the SEC (or any other conference) made facilities demands of KSU to join, they'd find a way to do it.

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« Reply #12719 on: September 19, 2011, 12:39:53 PM »

Yes.  SEC will say “either you (ku) comes w/out ksu or we go get UL”.  Because UL would be an entirely better option than KSU.  Entirely.  I’m not even convinced that the sec will go to 16 with the options available.  Who cares if the pac goes to 16 or the ACC goes to 16? Like the SEC is going to be like “wow, we can’t compete, we’re no longer the best football conference w/out KU and KSU”.  GMAFB.   And I don’t care about the scheduling issues that a 14 team league will have, but it is not a deal breaker,  it’s not mission impossible.  When the SEC offers a life raft for just one person, you don’t choose to drown.  

Yeah, I'm starting to think in this round we're probably not going to see all the conferences go full on 16 like the PAC will.

Larry Scott appears to really have a hard on for being the first super conference, and it might make some degree of sense that the others will use it as litmus test for the next couple of seasons while they incrementally add their pieces, if there aren't particularly good options on the table to choose from, i.e. K-State, KU, Louisiville, etc.  The big problem is the 7 team division scheduling but there are ways to get around it

The ACC, SEC, could go to 14, theoretically. Big 10 could stay pat at 12 for a while as they work the Notre Dame angle.

I also agree that UofL is a much better fit with the SEC than K-State.  Their facilities absolutely blow ours out of the water.  The downtown arena is the best collegiate venue in America, bar none.  They're South of the Mason Dixon and culturally they fit the bill.  They have multiple national championships to their credit in basketball, and UoL / Kentucky is already one of the greatest rivalries in the game.  Their football for the most part sucks outside of the Petrino years but they do have a new and bigger stadium at 60K.  They also have big time political power in Kentucky that will lobby the sh*t out of it, if the SEC does become a possibility. If you're looking at Apples to Apples comparison, they across the board would be a better fit.  They're basically University of Kentucky on an urban campus.  There also is the precedent to take a city school - look at Vanderbilt in Nashville.




I feel pretty positive that if the SEC (or any other conference) made facilities demands of KSU to join, they'd find a way to do it.
West side BSFS expansion could easily be updated to close the south bowl.  :crossfingers:

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« Reply #12720 on: September 19, 2011, 12:41:24 PM »
Anyway we can get a league of Cincy, Louisville, TCU, Mizzou/WVU loser, South Florida, KU, KSU, ISU, Baylor, UCF, someone else, and include Boise State as a football only member?
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« Reply #12721 on: September 19, 2011, 12:43:11 PM »
Anyway we can get a league of Cincy, Louisville, TCU, Mizzou/WVU loser, South Florida, KU, KSU, ISU, Baylor, UCF, someone else, and include Boise State as a football only member?

I don't think you are 100% understanding why there was a football only member scenario

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« Reply #12722 on: September 19, 2011, 12:43:28 PM »
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« Reply #12723 on: September 19, 2011, 12:45:42 PM »

Yes.  SEC will say “either you (ku) comes w/out ksu or we go get UL”.  Because UL would be an entirely better option than KSU.  Entirely.  I’m not even convinced that the sec will go to 16 with the options available.  Who cares if the pac goes to 16 or the ACC goes to 16? Like the SEC is going to be like “wow, we can’t compete, we’re no longer the best football conference w/out KU and KSU”.  GMAFB.   And I don’t care about the scheduling issues that a 14 team league will have, but it is not a deal breaker,  it’s not mission impossible.  When the SEC offers a life raft for just one person, you don’t choose to drown.  

Yeah, I'm starting to think in this round we're probably not going to see all the conferences go full on 16 like the PAC will.

Larry Scott appears to really have a hard on for being the first super conference, and it might make some degree of sense that the others will use it as litmus test for the next couple of seasons while they incrementally add their pieces, if there aren't particularly good options on the table to choose from, i.e. K-State, KU, Louisiville, etc.  The big problem is the 7 team division scheduling but there are ways to get around it

The ACC, SEC, could go to 14, theoretically. Big 10 could stay pat at 12 for a while as they work the Notre Dame angle.

I also agree that UofL is a much better fit with the SEC than K-State.  Their facilities absolutely blow ours out of the water.  The downtown arena is the best collegiate venue in America, bar none.  They're South of the Mason Dixon and culturally they fit the bill.  They have multiple national championships to their credit in basketball, and UoL / Kentucky is already one of the greatest rivalries in the game.  Their football for the most part sucks outside of the Petrino years but they do have a new and bigger stadium at 60K.  They also have big time political power in Kentucky that will lobby the sh*t out of it, if the SEC does become a possibility. If you're looking at Apples to Apples comparison, they across the board would be a better fit.  They're basically University of Kentucky on an urban campus.  There also is the precedent to take a city school - look at Vanderbilt in Nashville.




I feel pretty positive that if the SEC (or any other conference) made facilities demands of KSU to join, they'd find a way to do it.
West side BSFS expansion could easily be updated to close the south bowl.  :crossfingers:

There's a lot of stuff you could do.  You can close the South bowl with suites and put an upper deck over the top of it that stretches across the entire bowl like a horseshoe with seats across the upper deck.  There were rumblings a long time ago of joint suites between Bramlage and BSFS.  This could be an option.

If we were in a conference like the SEC, Big Ten, or something like that, you could probably find a way to fill some sort of club level that extended across the entire horseshoe.  You could also get creative with ticket pricing to sell seats in an upper deck that extended across the entire top of the stadium.  That would probably get total capacity around 60K.  It could be done.

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« Reply #12724 on: September 19, 2011, 12:47:57 PM »
We will be in a BCS AQ league.



That won't matter if we ever get to 4 16 team leagues.