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« Reply #12675 on: September 19, 2011, 11:29:03 AM »
The BOR isn't dumb enough to risk both of their programs ending up in the MWC if there is a chance one can get into a super conference.  Let's give these people some credit. 

i know.  I don’t understand why ksu’ers refuse to accept this reality.  When presented with two terrible situations, you (i.e. the BOR) picks the least terrible.  In this situation it would be KU going to whatever wonderful smelling conference instead of going to the MWC with KSU so the state of Kansas can effectively not have 3 WSU’s.  

it is an option.  there is no reality to accept if the choice has not yet been made.

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« Reply #12676 on: September 19, 2011, 11:29:08 AM »
KSU>USF, UL, or Cinci

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« Reply #12677 on: September 19, 2011, 11:29:40 AM »
The BOR isn't dumb enough to risk both of their programs ending up in the MWC if there is a chance one can get into a super conference.  Let's give these people some credit.  

i know.  I don’t understand why ksu’ers refuse to accept this reality.  When presented with two terrible situations, you (i.e. the BOR) picks the least terrible.  In this situation it would be KU going to whatever wonderful smelling conference instead of going to the MWC with KSU so the state of Kansas can effectively not have 3 WSU’s.  

So you really think the SEC will play hardball over Louisville?

Yes.  SEC will say “either you (ku) comes w/out ksu or we go get UL”.  Because UL would be an entirely better option than KSU.  Entirely.  I’m not even convinced that the sec will go to 16 with the options available.  Who cares if the pac goes to 16 or the ACC goes to 16? Like the SEC is going to be like “wow, we can’t compete, we’re no longer the best football conference w/out KU and KSU”.  GMAFB.   And I don’t care about the scheduling issues that a 14 team league will have, but it is not a deal breaker,  it’s not mission impossible.  When the SEC offers a life raft for just one person, you don’t choose to drown.  

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« Reply #12678 on: September 19, 2011, 11:33:34 AM »
The BOR isn't dumb enough to risk both of their programs ending up in the MWC if there is a chance one can get into a super conference.  Let's give these people some credit.  

i know.  I don’t understand why ksu’ers refuse to accept this reality.  When presented with two terrible situations, you (i.e. the BOR) picks the least terrible.  In this situation it would be KU going to whatever wonderful smelling conference instead of going to the MWC with KSU so the state of Kansas can effectively not have 3 WSU’s.  

So you really think the SEC will play hardball over Louisville?

We are a better option than Louisville.  Yes, they have the new arena, yes they have an expanded football stadium, but they are still a 'city' school.  The SEC does not have city schools.  They are state schools plus the academic private school to up the rankings.

Academically, we're better.  We're tied to a much more attractive school.  Kentucky is already in the SEC and will tell everyone to keep them the eff out.

I don't see why it's hard to understand why we're a better fit/option than Louisville.

Yes.  SEC will say “either you (ku) comes w/out ksu or we go get UL”.  Because UL would be an entirely better option than KSU.  Entirely.  I’m not even convinced that the sec will go to 16 with the options available.  Who cares if the pac goes to 16 or the ACC goes to 16? Like the SEC is going to be like “wow, we can’t compete, we’re no longer the best football conference w/out KU and KSU”.  GMAFB.   And I don’t care about the scheduling issues that a 14 team league will have, but it is not a deal breaker,  it’s not mission impossible.  When the SEC offers a life raft for just one person, you don’t choose to drown.  

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« Reply #12679 on: September 19, 2011, 11:34:05 AM »
Mods, is there any way to get some type of word filter thing can catch any post with the idea/premise that ku and ksu are tied together or that ku will somehow “demand” that ksu come along be changed to [redacted due to stupidity]?  I know it would be difficult, because this idiocy can be worded in a 100 million ways (and already has) but I’m counting on you, mods.  tia.

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« Reply #12680 on: September 19, 2011, 11:37:14 AM »
Mods, is there any way to get some type of word filter thing can catch any post with the idea/premise that ku and ksu are tied together or that ku will somehow “demand” that ksu come along be changed to [redacted due to stupidity]?  I know it would be difficult, because this idiocy can be worded in a 100 million ways (and already has) but I’m counting on you, mods.  tia.

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« Reply #12681 on: September 19, 2011, 11:40:23 AM »
A 16 team SEC model only make sense if they're going to make more money by adding teams 15 and 16. I don't think Louisville adds enough value when it comes to tv sets w/ the SEC already having Lexington, Nashville and Knoxville. Expanding west makes much more sense.

Adding A&M, MU, KU, & KSU gets you a lot more tvs than Louisville and WVU

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« Reply #12682 on: September 19, 2011, 11:41:38 AM »
The BOR isn't dumb enough to risk both of their programs ending up in the MWC if there is a chance one can get into a super conference.  Let's give these people some credit.  

i know.  I don’t understand why ksu’ers refuse to accept this reality.  When presented with two terrible situations, you (i.e. the BOR) picks the least terrible.  In this situation it would be KU going to whatever wonderful smelling conference instead of going to the MWC with KSU so the state of Kansas can effectively not have 3 WSU’s.  

So you really think the SEC will play hardball over Louisville?

We are a better option than Louisville.  Yes, they have the new arena, yes they have an expanded football stadium, but they are still a 'city' school.  The SEC does not have city schools.  They are state schools plus the academic private school to up the rankings.

Academically, we're better.  We're tied to a much more attractive school.  Kentucky is already in the SEC and will tell everyone to keep them the eff out.

I don't see why it's hard to understand why we're a better fit/option than Louisville.

Yes.  SEC will say “either you (ku) comes w/out ksu or we go get UL”.  Because UL would be an entirely better option than KSU.  Entirely.  I’m not even convinced that the sec will go to 16 with the options available.  Who cares if the pac goes to 16 or the ACC goes to 16? Like the SEC is going to be like “wow, we can’t compete, we’re no longer the best football conference w/out KU and KSU”.  GMAFB.   And I don’t care about the scheduling issues that a 14 team league will have, but it is not a deal breaker,  it’s not mission impossible.  When the SEC offers a life raft for just one person, you don’t choose to drown.  

Some quoted a SEC AD or something that the SEC will only consider schools that expand there reach into new territories. K-State, KU and Missouri do that Louisville does not . I would think they would look at Cincinnati more than Louisville for that very reason.
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« Reply #12683 on: September 19, 2011, 11:45:25 AM »
I REALLY don't see Cinci's 35,000 seat stadium belonging in the SEC.

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« Reply #12684 on: September 19, 2011, 11:47:30 AM »
Guys -- you can dream all you want. We're not going to the PAC, big 10, ACC or SEC. Hold out hope as long as you want, but it's not going to happen.   :cry: We either make the best of what we can w/ the rest of the Big East, or go join the MWC. Stinks, but that's where we're at. Best we can hope for is that we can become the 5th power conference (lowest rung on the big boy ladder).

As a side note, if Currie doesn't stop talking about being "committed to the BigXII" very very soon, I'm going to become even more  :curse: .

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« Reply #12685 on: September 19, 2011, 11:47:50 AM »
I REALLY don't see Cinci's 35,000 seat stadium belonging in the SEC.

They've already said they don't believe they can expand past that either without building an entirely new stadium.

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« Reply #12686 on: September 19, 2011, 11:47:56 AM »
It's a pretty cool looking stadium.  Surprised it's so small.

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« Reply #12687 on: September 19, 2011, 11:48:40 AM »
The BOR isn't dumb enough to risk both of their programs ending up in the MWC if there is a chance one can get into a super conference.  Let's give these people some credit.  

i know.  I don’t understand why ksu’ers refuse to accept this reality.  When presented with two terrible situations, you (i.e. the BOR) picks the least terrible.  In this situation it would be KU going to whatever wonderful smelling conference instead of going to the MWC with KSU so the state of Kansas can effectively not have 3 WSU’s.  

So you really think the SEC will play hardball over Louisville?

We are a better option than Louisville.  Yes, they have the new arena, yes they have an expanded football stadium, but they are still a 'city' school.  The SEC does not have city schools.  They are state schools plus the academic private school to up the rankings.

Academically, we're better.  We're tied to a much more attractive school.  Kentucky is already in the SEC and will tell everyone to keep them the eff out.

I don't see why it's hard to understand why we're a better fit/option than Louisville.

Yes.  SEC will say “either you (ku) comes w/out ksu or we go get UL”.  Because UL would be an entirely better option than KSU.  Entirely.  I’m not even convinced that the sec will go to 16 with the options available.  Who cares if the pac goes to 16 or the ACC goes to 16? Like the SEC is going to be like “wow, we can’t compete, we’re no longer the best football conference w/out KU and KSU”.  GMAFB.   And I don’t care about the scheduling issues that a 14 team league will have, but it is not a deal breaker,  it’s not mission impossible.  When the SEC offers a life raft for just one person, you don’t choose to drown.  

Some quoted a SEC AD or something that the SEC will only consider schools that expand there reach into new territories. K-State, KU and Missouri do that Louisville does not . I would think they would look at Cincinnati more than Louisville for that very reason.

Cincinnati <<<< Louisville. Ohio is owned by tOSU more than UT owns Texas.

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« Reply #12688 on: September 19, 2011, 11:49:22 AM »
South Carolina, Georgia and Florida got together to Clemson, Georgia Tech and Florida State. Can't help but wonder why Kentucky would welcome Louisville.

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« Reply #12689 on: September 19, 2011, 11:52:47 AM »
Hearing Dan Bebee may have saved the Big 12 for another year. Guess we will see in a few hours.
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« Reply #12690 on: September 19, 2011, 11:53:05 AM »
Big East basketball schools are reported to be breaking away from the remaining football schools (not surprisingly).  

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« Reply #12691 on: September 19, 2011, 11:53:46 AM »
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« Reply #12692 on: September 19, 2011, 11:54:06 AM »
Only thing keeping Vandy in the SEC is that it is a private school (has mega $$$$) and is a founding member of the conference. Tradition is sacred in the SEC, which is why I don't see the chances of them expanding past 14 teams to be very good.

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« Reply #12693 on: September 19, 2011, 11:54:22 AM »
Big East basketball schools are reported to be breaking away from the remaining football schools (not surprisingly).  

This is a move to save the Garden for them. IMO. Will not work
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« Reply #12694 on: September 19, 2011, 11:58:21 AM »
We haven't had one of these in awhile;

Bebee saving conference  1%
Pac whatever     0%
BG1whatever    -15%
SEC                 -10 %
Abortion of Big 12 and MWC  and me   :flush:   24%
Abortion of Big 12 and BE and me   :flush:       100%



There you have it guys.
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« Reply #12695 on: September 19, 2011, 11:59:00 AM »
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let's see how almighty that KS BOR is now

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« Reply #12696 on: September 19, 2011, 12:00:55 PM »
We haven't had one of these in awhile;

Bebee saving conference  1%
Pac whatever     0%
BG1whatever    -0%
SEC                 -1 %
Abortion of Big 12 and MWC  and me   :flush:   24%
Abortion of Big 12 and BE and me   :flush:       99%



There you have it guys.

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« Reply #12697 on: September 19, 2011, 12:01:59 PM »
Hearing Dan Bebee may have saved the Big 12 for another year. Guess we will see in a few hours.

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« Reply #12698 on: September 19, 2011, 12:02:44 PM »
I'm going to  :lol: through my  :bawl: when MU, KU, and KSU all end up in separate conferences.

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« Reply #12699 on: September 19, 2011, 12:03:45 PM »
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@wilnerhotline Source: Pac-12 has Missouri on its radar.

let's see how almighty that KS BOR is now

PAC 12 has a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) radar. So Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) we are even on it and they were willing to take Baylor just to get Texas, last year.
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