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« Reply #12450 on: September 18, 2011, 10:50:37 PM »
I don't see anyone defecting from the ACC either. When the lawsuit crap-storm comes every university that moved conferences is going to have a huge target on it's back. Why open yourself up to that if you're already in a good conference.
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« Reply #12451 on: September 18, 2011, 10:53:37 PM »
I think the SEC would go for Louisville, USF, UCF well before they look to the midwest.

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« Reply #12452 on: September 18, 2011, 10:55:22 PM »
woof, you miss a day on goEMAW.com and you miss a ton.

someone give me the cliffs of the last 25 pages.  (i realize that Pitt and Cuse are going ACC, but thats it)

No much else. Just lots of speculation on what the final alignment will be. OU and OSU look to be PAC for sure, Texas and Tech still working out the details. Notre Dame might join Big10, but keep NBC contract.  If PAC and ACC go to 16, SEC and Big10 might have their hand forced if they want to be included in the playoff system (assuming that's where the super conferences are headed). It's hard to see us not being one of the 64 if crap starts flying, but the SEC and Big10 have little incentive to reach 16 outside of a playoff system.


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Alright, think it through...here's what we know right now.

Pitt and Syracuse to the ACC is a done deal.  It's assumed that the ACC wants to stay in the eastern time zone, which means Big East schools only.

A&M is 99.9999% a done deal.

UT/Tech/OU/OSU to Pac is pretty much assumed.

Alright, let's go from there.

ACC will most likely take UConn.  They're interested, they have a non-dumpster fire football program.  They're a Top 5 basketball program.  They help get a stranglehold on the NE market.  Let's go with that.  Then they need one more.  They won't go with USF because they don't need another Florida school.  Rutgers?  Maybe.  But something tells me Rutgers knows that the Big Ten's going to be looking HARD at them when this all goes down.  So, they may slow play.  That leaves Louisville, Cincy, or WVU.  If you're the ACC, and you want to beef up that football profile (that's SERIOUSLY lacking), why not go for the best team in the Big East and keep the Backyard Brawl in your conference?  The ACC freaking loves rivalries like that. 

So, I'll go WVU to the ACC.  Just for the sake of argument.

Okay.  So, that happens.  What do you have left?

Big Ten will get Notre Dame.  That leaves three spots.  SEC has three spots.

Here are the nine teams left competing for six spots:

Kansas
Kansas State
Iowa State
Missouri
Baylor
Cincinnati
Louisville
USF
Rutgers

People are really sweating that we'll be one of the three teams left out of that list?

Eliminate USF.  SEC won't take them, Big Ten won't take them, and the ACC won't take them.  Now you're down to eight.  Baylor to the SEC?  Do you think they'd actually vote them in after what they just pulled?  Down to seven.

I like our odds.



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« Reply #12453 on: September 18, 2011, 10:55:51 PM »
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« Reply #12454 on: September 18, 2011, 10:57:03 PM »
I think the SEC would go for Louisville well before they look to the midwest.

I have herd that Kentucky does not want
Also the only way the SEC can justify any new schools is if they open new markets louisville does not do that.
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« Reply #12455 on: September 18, 2011, 10:57:10 PM »
woof, you miss a day on goEMAW.com and you miss a ton.

someone give me the cliffs of the last 25 pages.  (i realize that Pitt and Cuse are going ACC, but thats it)

No much else. Just lots of speculation on what the final alignment will be. OU and OSU look to be PAC for sure, Texas and Tech still working out the details. Notre Dame might join Big10, but keep NBC contract.  If PAC and ACC go to 16, SEC and Big10 might have their hand forced if they want to be included in the playoff system (assuming that's where the super conferences are headed). It's hard to see us not being one of the 64 if crap starts flying, but the SEC and Big10 have little incentive to reach 16 outside of a playoff system.


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« Reply #12456 on: September 18, 2011, 10:57:58 PM »
woof, you miss a day on goEMAW.com and you miss a ton.

someone give me the cliffs of the last 25 pages.  (i realize that Pitt and Cuse are going ACC, but thats it)

No much else. Just lots of speculation on what the final alignment will be. OU and OSU look to be PAC for sure, Texas and Tech still working out the details. Notre Dame might join Big10, but keep NBC contract.  If PAC and ACC go to 16, SEC and Big10 might have their hand forced if they want to be included in the playoff system (assuming that's where the super conferences are headed). It's hard to see us not being one of the 64 if crap starts flying, but the SEC and Big10 have little incentive to reach 16 outside of a playoff system.


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« Reply #12457 on: September 18, 2011, 10:59:22 PM »
chances of a new kstate rule to govern conference realignment after the smoke clears?

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« Reply #12458 on: September 18, 2011, 11:00:00 PM »
chances of a new kstate rule to govern conference realignment after the smoke clears?

.95 percent confidence interval

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« Reply #12459 on: September 18, 2011, 11:00:13 PM »
I threw us in the SEC. But still. I don't think the SEC or the Big Ten will get teams they don't reaaaaaaaaaaaaaally want. Us included. Not sure.

If you're Mike Slive, and this is about securing the best deals for your league, etc., you can really screw the Big Ten by taking the three of us.  Just look at what the landscape is ultimately reduced to.



The Big Ten will be left with no hope of ever getting to an attractive sixteen should they ever need to have that happen.  Ever.

Or, you can split it up like this, and it looks like most sides end up winning.



That's not true at all. The Big Ten could just sit at 12 and all the 16 team conferences would be screwed by having to pay welfare revenue money to at least 5-6 teams while the Big 10 teams just get rich. If the Big 10 doesn't expand, there is no playoff and all the other conferences get caught with their dicks in their hands.

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« Reply #12460 on: September 18, 2011, 11:00:17 PM »
I think the SEC would go for Louisville, USF, UCF well before they look to the midwest.

What do the computer models say? Did you remember to normalize the numbers of offensive and defensive plays?
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« Reply #12461 on: September 18, 2011, 11:01:34 PM »
I think the SEC would go for Louisville, USF, UCF well before they look to the midwest.

What do the computer models say? Did you remember to normalize the numbers of offensive and defensive plays?
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« Reply #12462 on: September 18, 2011, 11:02:34 PM »
I threw us in the SEC. But still. I don't think the SEC or the Big Ten will get teams they don't reaaaaaaaaaaaaaally want. Us included. Not sure.

If you're Mike Slive, and this is about securing the best deals for your league, etc., you can really screw the Big Ten by taking the three of us.  Just look at what the landscape is ultimately reduced to.



The Big Ten will be left with no hope of ever getting to an attractive sixteen should they ever need to have that happen.  Ever.

Or, you can split it up like this, and it looks like most sides end up winning.



That's not true at all. The Big Ten could just sit at 12 and all the 16 team conferences would be screwed by having to pay welfare revenue money to at least 5-6 teams while the Big 10 teams just get rich. If the Big 10 doesn't expand, there is no playoff and all the other conferences get caught with their dicks in their hands.

Huh?  So the pac is screwed by adding Texas and OU?  No

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« Reply #12463 on: September 18, 2011, 11:04:39 PM »
yeah, if texas and OU go to PAC, they won. USC, UCLA, Stanford, UT, OU. if this is  true they're doing it right

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« Reply #12464 on: September 18, 2011, 11:04:58 PM »
I think the SEC would go for Louisville, USF, UCF well before they look to the midwest.

Are you just picking the team most likely not to get an invite to the sec. :facepalm:
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« Reply #12465 on: September 18, 2011, 11:05:30 PM »
I threw us in the SEC. But still. I don't think the SEC or the Big Ten will get teams they don't reaaaaaaaaaaaaaally want. Us included. Not sure.

If you're Mike Slive, and this is about securing the best deals for your league, etc., you can really screw the Big Ten by taking the three of us.  Just look at what the landscape is ultimately reduced to.



The Big Ten will be left with no hope of ever getting to an attractive sixteen should they ever need to have that happen.  Ever.

Or, you can split it up like this, and it looks like most sides end up winning.



That's not true at all. The Big Ten could just sit at 12 and all the 16 team conferences would be screwed by having to pay welfare revenue money to at least 5-6 teams while the Big 10 teams just get rich. If the Big 10 doesn't expand, there is no playoff and all the other conferences get caught with their dicks in their hands.

Yeah...that would be true, if all of this conf expansion crap was happening organically. However, at this point, I'm fairly sure that someone (espn) is behind the scenes telling everyone that a playoff is coming so it's time to get into a 16 team conference. There's just no way that everyone is acting so irrationally without a puppet-master.
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« Reply #12466 on: September 18, 2011, 11:05:43 PM »
I think the SEC would go for Louisville, USF, UCF well before they look to the midwest.
Louisville maybe

No way USF, UCF are viewed as viable candidates by UF and SEC schools closest to FL geographically.
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« Reply #12467 on: September 18, 2011, 11:07:04 PM »
Ok guys. Im off to bed. No new posts till 8 mtn time. Thx.

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« Reply #12468 on: September 18, 2011, 11:07:20 PM »
I threw us in the SEC. But still. I don't think the SEC or the Big Ten will get teams they don't reaaaaaaaaaaaaaally want. Us included. Not sure.

If you're Mike Slive, and this is about securing the best deals for your league, etc., you can really screw the Big Ten by taking the three of us.  Just look at what the landscape is ultimately reduced to.



The Big Ten will be left with no hope of ever getting to an attractive sixteen should they ever need to have that happen.  Ever.

Or, you can split it up like this, and it looks like most sides end up winning.



That's not true at all. The Big Ten could just sit at 12 and all the 16 team conferences would be screwed by having to pay welfare revenue money to at least 5-6 teams while the Big 10 teams just get rich. If the Big 10 doesn't expand, there is no playoff and all the other conferences get caught with their dicks in their hands.

Yeah...that would be true, if all of this conf expansion crap was happening organically. However, at this point, I'm fairly sure that someone (espn) is behind the scenes telling everyone that a playoff is coming so it's time to get into a 16 team conference. There's just no way that everyone is acting so irrationally without a puppet-master.
doubt espn, they have been so far behind reporting any legit rumors.  Twitter and BBSing has killed their breaking news bullshit.
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« Reply #12469 on: September 18, 2011, 11:07:45 PM »
Ok guys. Im off to bed. No new posts till 8 mtn time. Thx.
So close

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« Reply #12470 on: September 18, 2011, 11:07:59 PM »
I think the SEC would go for Louisville, USF, UCF well before they look to the midwest.
Louisville maybe

No way USF, UCF are viewed as viable candidates by UF and SEC schools closest to FL geographically.
probably not, but I just can't see them adding us.  it's too outside of their region.  doubly so if its only us.

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« Reply #12471 on: September 18, 2011, 11:08:08 PM »
Ok guys. Im off to bed. No new posts till 8 mtn time. Thx.
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« Reply #12472 on: September 18, 2011, 11:08:35 PM »
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« Reply #12473 on: September 18, 2011, 11:08:39 PM »
yeah, if texas and OU go to PAC, they won. USC, UCLA, Stanford, UT, OU. if this is  true they're doing it right
would they have an excuse for no one caring about pacific coast football than?
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« Reply #12474 on: September 18, 2011, 11:08:55 PM »
I threw us in the SEC. But still. I don't think the SEC or the Big Ten will get teams they don't reaaaaaaaaaaaaaally want. Us included. Not sure.

If you're Mike Slive, and this is about securing the best deals for your league, etc., you can really screw the Big Ten by taking the three of us.  Just look at what the landscape is ultimately reduced to.



The Big Ten will be left with no hope of ever getting to an attractive sixteen should they ever need to have that happen.  Ever.

Or, you can split it up like this, and it looks like most sides end up winning.



That's not true at all. The Big Ten could just sit at 12 and all the 16 team conferences would be screwed by having to pay welfare revenue money to at least 5-6 teams while the Big 10 teams just get rich. If the Big 10 doesn't expand, there is no playoff and all the other conferences get caught with their dicks in their hands.

Yeah...that would be true, if all of this conf expansion crap was happening organically. However, at this point, I'm fairly sure that someone (espn) is behind the scenes telling everyone that a playoff is coming so it's time to get into a 16 team conference. There's just no way that everyone is acting so irrationally without a puppet-master.
doubt espn, they have been so far behind reporting any legit rumors.  Twitter and BBSing has killed their breaking news bullshit.

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