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Offline Stevesie60

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #12375 on: September 18, 2011, 09:40:07 PM »
I'm not getting crap done tomorrow at work.


Confidence interval of .95 states that there is a statistically significant chance of 3 more people will post about how little they will be doing at work tomorrow before the night ends.

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« Reply #12376 on: September 18, 2011, 09:41:46 PM »
I think tomorrow should be a very productive day for me. I'm really looking forward to getting some work done. LOL at losers who can't multitask.

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« Reply #12377 on: September 18, 2011, 09:41:53 PM »
I'm not getting crap done tomorrow at work.
This sums up my day. If anybody expects me to do crap tomorrow they better be ready to :comeatme:

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #12379 on: September 18, 2011, 09:46:02 PM »
The ACC is considering three options as it awaits decisions from Texas and Oklahoma, according to an official. The first one is the league's home run swing at luring both Texas and Notre Dame. Plan B is to invite Texas and Texas Tech. Rutgers and Connecticut are Plan C, with a college official saying Connecticut and the ACC have had discussions the past two days.

http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/index.ssf/2011/09/rutgers_remains_in_contact_wit.html?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed


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« Reply #12380 on: September 18, 2011, 09:46:38 PM »
If Sirr Parker is never born are we in this same mess?

Ask TCU how much that 9-month old Rose Bowl trophy is helping them out.  A 13 year old NC game appearance doesn't bring in more TV sets for us.  I have yet to hear anyone say "The reigning Rose Bowl champ can't be left out."
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« Reply #12381 on: September 18, 2011, 09:48:29 PM »
The ACC is considering three options as it awaits decisions from Texas and Oklahoma, according to an official. The first one is the league's home run swing at luring both Texas and Notre Dame. Plan B is to invite Texas and Texas Tech. Rutgers and Connecticut are Plan C, with a college official saying Connecticut and the ACC have had discussions the past two days.

http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/index.ssf/2011/09/rutgers_remains_in_contact_wit.html?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed





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« Reply #12382 on: September 18, 2011, 09:50:26 PM »
http://res.dallasnews.com/graphics/2011_09/realignment/



The biggest reason why 4 16 team conferences won't happen. Who the hell will they pick?

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« Reply #12383 on: September 18, 2011, 09:52:00 PM »
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« Reply #12384 on: September 18, 2011, 09:52:16 PM »
http://res.dallasnews.com/graphics/2011_09/realignment/



The biggest reason why 4 16 team conferences won't happen. Who the hell will they pick?

Yeah, this is why I'm not scared.

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« Reply #12385 on: September 18, 2011, 09:53:49 PM »
How the playoff will work:

Each super conf will have 4 pods.

The winner of each pod will get the invite, 4x4 =16.



Maybe you've explained this because I'm having a hard time keeping up with this thread.  Please reconcile UPs and ADs all of a sudden wanting a playoff when they were gung ho the current bowl system like yesterday.  They go from not approving a +1 to a 16 team playoff?  Four 16 team conferences changes literally nothing as it relates to the current set up and a playoff system.  There are like 67 current BCS schools as opposed to the 64 in the model you say they want.

Not sure what you mean.  With that above setup it creates a simple pool play with a clear winner and than you get a clear set of teams to be playoff contenders.  You would include the most favorable teams to be in a tourney (sorry BSU/TCU) and create a clear system instead of relying on bowl tie ins or politics to set matches.

I believe UPs and ADs want what ever gives them more money.  Super conferences clearly provide that.

Yeah its pretty clear you didn't know what I meant.  There has always been more money in a playoff, that didn't change last week.  There has always been the possibility of having a playoff that excludes BSU/TCU.  Certainly you're familiar with the acronyms BCS, AQ, non-AQ?  Four sixteen team conferences doesn't change the reasons UPs and ADs give for not having a playoff; time out of class, the tradition and meaning of bowl season.  It also doesn't change the real reason we know why ADs and UPs want the current bowl system in place, bowls greasing the palms of ADs with gifts, trips, and cash.

The only difference between what Chingon proposed and what they have rejected for years is about half a dozen schools.

Note sure what you mean because you completely missed the point of the pod play off system which could evolve from super conferences.  You keep thinking of this in the old system paradigm which is what UPs and ADs half heartily rejected because of money.  Its laughable at best to include academics and campus life when talking about the myth of the student athlete and big time football.  The real answer was with the old status quo money didn't change enough to make it worth the headache.  Now with schools getting independent channels, super conferences with multi billion dollar TV deals on the horizon it is clear that ADs just want to land in big money conferences.  Its an entirely new paradigm to get use to.  

I'm trying not to get pissed at your inability to either understand or you just completely making crap up to fit your point.  The UPs and ADs have had people telling them for years how much more money there is in a playoff, there have been several studies done saying so.  People have been telling CFB for well over 20 years how much money is in a playoff.  When March Madness blew up in the 80's people have been screaming for a playoff.  The fact that there is more money in a playoff is far from a new development.  Money is clearly driving the conference moves, although most making the moves will spew BS about prestige and academic status.  However, there is absolutely no evidence that talking point will bleed into a playoff.

Once again the basic structure as it relates to the viability of a playoff wouldn't change.  It would go from 6 conferenes and 67 schools to 4 of 64.  So you're telling me that excluding three teams from big time college football will convince people that they were wrong from what they believed to be right for 150 years?  That makes no since.  These people have not thought at all about long term effects of 4 super conferences.  There is no way that Swofford, Scott,  Slive, and Delaney have sat down and mapped out a playoff.  Not only would those four, more so in the case of Delaney and Scott whos conferences have been violently opposed to a playoff, but they would have to get these old dudes who have spent years fighting against a playoff, to agree to one.  

A playoff may happen one day but it is absolutely not a motivation to go to super conferences.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #12386 on: September 18, 2011, 09:53:49 PM »
http://res.dallasnews.com/graphics/2011_09/realignment/



The biggest reason why 4 16 team conferences won't happen. Who the hell will they pick?

Yeah, this is why I'm not scared.

Exactly, that's why I'm thinking the SEC is very real. I mean, come on!
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« Reply #12387 on: September 18, 2011, 09:55:35 PM »
I have some major nervous shits going on
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #12388 on: September 18, 2011, 09:56:02 PM »
http://res.dallasnews.com/graphics/2011_09/realignment/



The biggest reason why 4 16 team conferences won't happen. Who the hell will they pick?

Yeah, this is why I'm not scared.

Exactly, that's why I'm thinking the SEC is very real. I mean, come on!

Toss ISU in the Big Ten and Louisville in the SEC, and let's do this.

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« Reply #12389 on: September 18, 2011, 09:57:24 PM »
I threw us in the SEC. But still. I don't think the SEC or the Big Ten will get teams they don't reaaaaaaaaaaaaaally want. Us included. Not sure.

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« Reply #12390 on: September 18, 2011, 09:57:34 PM »
http://res.dallasnews.com/graphics/2011_09/realignment/



The biggest reason why 4 16 team conferences won't happen. Who the hell will they pick?
I'd feel sick to my stomach for ISU and Baylor if that happened.  I know it won't, but man, I hope that everybody lands on their (our) feet.


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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #12391 on: September 18, 2011, 09:58:19 PM »
http://res.dallasnews.com/graphics/2011_09/realignment/

The biggest reason why 4 16 team conferences won't happen. Who the hell will they pick?

Ran into this same problem. I the SEC and the Big10 have little incentive to get to 16 unless the playoff system starts happening without them.

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« Reply #12392 on: September 18, 2011, 10:00:31 PM »
I'd feel sick to my stomach for ISU and Baylor if that happened.

eff that.  No one will give a crap about us if we're left out. 

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #12393 on: September 18, 2011, 10:03:55 PM »
http://res.dallasnews.com/graphics/2011_09/realignment/



The biggest reason why 4 16 team conferences won't happen. Who the hell will they pick?

In that scenario its pretty damn easy, Louisville to the SEC and ISU to the Big 10.  However all of these "what ifs" are dumb as very little of this is driven by logic.  In the case of the teams leaving the Big 12 and Big East teams were leaving to gain stability but their leaving created the instability.  And still to this point if the south four leaves for the Pac, out of NU, CU, A&M, Pitt, Syracuse, UT, TT, OU, & OSU, only CU & NU made moves that made sense.  Who rough ridin' knows who is going to do what.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #12394 on: September 18, 2011, 10:04:33 PM »
I'd feel sick to my stomach for ISU and Baylor if that happened.

eff that.  No one will give a crap about us if we're left out.  

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #12395 on: September 18, 2011, 10:05:48 PM »
I threw us in the SEC. But still. I don't think the SEC or the Big Ten will get teams they don't reaaaaaaaaaaaaaally want. Us included. Not sure.

If you're Mike Slive, and this is about securing the best deals for your league, etc., you can really screw the Big Ten by taking the three of us.  Just look at what the landscape is ultimately reduced to.



The Big Ten will be left with no hope of ever getting to an attractive sixteen should they ever need to have that happen.  Ever.

Or, you can split it up like this, and it looks like most sides end up winning.


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« Reply #12396 on: September 18, 2011, 10:06:35 PM »
The sec would be horrible

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« Reply #12397 on: September 18, 2011, 10:07:27 PM »
Why wouldn't the SEC just hold their nose and raid the ACC for Clemson and FSU? I'd have to think they'd prefer that over taking the KC3

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #12398 on: September 18, 2011, 10:07:41 PM »
k-state will never be in the SEC as the only midwest team.  never.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #12399 on: September 18, 2011, 10:07:49 PM »
http://res.dallasnews.com/graphics/2011_09/realignment/



The biggest reason why 4 16 team conferences won't happen. Who the hell will they pick?

When this thing happens, do you think it will just be the West, North, East, and South? Because that'd be cool.