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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #12100 on: September 18, 2011, 04:53:58 PM »
The ACC takes UCONN and Rutgers to get to 16. The SEC takes UL and WVU to get to 16. The big 10 finally convinces ND to join and takes MU with them. Then they look around and see no other viable options so it's either KU and ISU at that point or poach a couple of ACC teams. They poach the ACC taking Maryland and Virginia. Then the ACC is looking around for two more viable replacements and it's either some combo of Cincy, S. Florida, Baylor, ISU, TCU and BYU or the sweet package deal of KU and K-State. Cincy is shittier than K-State in athletics and academics so they are out TCU and Baylor are shitty small religious schools so they are out. S. Florida is out cause they are a shitty school in a state the ACC already has a big footprint in. ISU offers nothing except an AAU rating so they are out. BYU is way too far away so they are out. The ACC would love to have blue blood KU in basketball and K-State also adds to the basketball picture so it's a no brainer here. They take KU and K-State to get back to 16.

ACC just upped their buyout by $10MM, doubt anyone is leaving.

I wouldn't count on any team turning down the big 10, no matter what the buyout is. You all can sit back and think the sky is falling but I'm still feeling confident we will end up in one of the super conferences when I look at who the options would be in our place.
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #12101 on: September 18, 2011, 04:55:19 PM »
The other thing to consider is a 5th 16 team conference.   I just don't see a whole bunch of schools that have spent a lot of money on facilities just letting this happen without filing a bunch of lawsuits. 

Schools like ECU, UCF and others have dumped a bunch of money into their football programs and they and if it comes down being relegated to the trash heap, they're going to lawyer the hell up and start filing lawsuits.    They could have the super conferences tied up in court for years.




A 5th SuperCo would be great news for us, but it really screws with a playoff which I think is the endgame.

That is what I mean by that list of scrappy mid tier BSC schools/TCU BSUs of the world.  A lowest level AQ super conference.  KSU could do well there.
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #12102 on: September 18, 2011, 04:55:41 PM »
The big 10 isn't going to expand for anyone but ND, tards.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #12103 on: September 18, 2011, 04:56:16 PM »
The other thing to consider is a 5th 16 team conference.   I just don't see a whole bunch of schools that have spent a lot of money on facilities just letting this happen without filing a bunch of lawsuits.  

Schools like ECU, UCF and others have dumped a bunch of money into their football programs and they and if it comes down being relegated to the trash heap, they're going to lawyer the hell up and start filing lawsuits.    They could have the super conferences tied up in court for years.




A 5th SuperCo would be great news for us, but it really screws with a playoff which I think is the endgame.

That is what I mean by that list of scrappy mid tier BSC schools/TCU BSUs of the world.  A lowest level AQ super conference.  KSU could do well there.
AQ will mean nothing though.  A playoff is coming, and 5 conferences messes that up.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #12104 on: September 18, 2011, 04:56:55 PM »
The other thing to consider is a 5th 16 team conference.   I just don't see a whole bunch of schools that have spent a lot of money on facilities just letting this happen without filing a bunch of lawsuits. 

Schools like ECU, UCF and others have dumped a bunch of money into their football programs and they and if it comes down being relegated to the trash heap, they're going to lawyer the hell up and start filing lawsuits.    They could have the super conferences tied up in court for years.




A 5th SuperCo would be great news for us, but it really screws with a playoff which I think is the endgame.

That is what I mean by that list of scrappy mid tier BSC schools/TCU BSUs of the world.  A lowest level AQ super conference.  KSU could do well there.

If the endgame is a 16-team playoff rather than 8, they could potentially give a spot or two to that scrappy 5th-AQ conference. If it's 8 or 4, welp.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #12105 on: September 18, 2011, 04:58:45 PM »
How the playoff will work:

Each super conf will have 4 pods.

The winner of each pod will get the invite, 4x4 =16.


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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #12106 on: September 18, 2011, 04:59:58 PM »
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« Reply #12107 on: September 18, 2011, 05:00:11 PM »
How the playoff will work:

Each super conf will have 4 pods.

The winner of each pod will get the invite, 4x4 =16.



i still don't know how public universities will exclude other public universities, regardless of their NCAA affiliation.  The BCS still is considered "inclusive" because not all spots are taken. 

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« Reply #12108 on: September 18, 2011, 05:00:43 PM »
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I've confirmed the meeting between Larry Scott andTexas' Dodds and Powers in LA. The four B12 schools trending West, but not done yet.

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« Reply #12109 on: September 18, 2011, 05:01:06 PM »
How the playoff will work:

Each super conf will have 4 pods.

The winner of each pod will get the invite, 4x4 =16.


I could see that

I wonder if the bowl system will allow that right now or if we will do 5 conferences and than blow it up to a playoff like you suggest in  3-5 years tops.  
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« Reply #12110 on: September 18, 2011, 05:01:21 PM »
PeteThamelNYT Pete Thamel
I've confirmed the meeting between Larry Scott and Texas' Dodds and Powers in LA. The four B12 schools trending West, but not done yet.[\b]

:gocho:

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #12111 on: September 18, 2011, 05:01:36 PM »
PeteThamelNYT Pete Thamel
I've confirmed the meeting between Larry Scott and Texas' Dodds and Powers in LA. The four B12 schools trending West, but not done yet.[\b]

:gocho:

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« Reply #12112 on: September 18, 2011, 05:01:54 PM »
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #12113 on: September 18, 2011, 05:02:08 PM »
PeteThamelNYT Pete Thamel
I've confirmed the meeting between Larry Scott and Texas' Dodds and Powers in LA. The four B12 schools trending West, but not done yet.[\b]

:gocho:

I'm really hoping UT and OU come to their senses and pick off UL, Cincy, and TCU.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #12114 on: September 18, 2011, 05:02:31 PM »
PeteThamelNYT Pete Thamel
I've confirmed the meeting between Larry Scott and Texas' Dodds and Powers in LA. The four B12 schools trending West, but not done yet.

Quick....somebody release Ecokat and send her to f-up the Pac deal for them.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #12115 on: September 18, 2011, 05:03:41 PM »
How the playoff will work:

Each super conf will have 4 pods.

The winner of each pod will get the invite, 4x4 =16.



i still don't know how public universities will exclude other public universities, regardless of their NCAA affiliation.  The BCS still is considered "inclusive" because not all spots are taken.  
yeah that's where congress will have to get involved, the involvement of federal dollars will be a huge factor.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #12116 on: September 18, 2011, 05:04:42 PM »
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« Reply #12117 on: September 18, 2011, 05:05:25 PM »
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« Reply #12118 on: September 18, 2011, 05:06:16 PM »
PeteThamelNYT Pete Thamel
I've confirmed the meeting between Larry Scott and Texas' Dodds and Powers in LA. The four B12 schools trending West, but not done yet.[\b]

:gocho:

I'm really hoping UT and OU come to their senses and pick off UL, Cincy, and TCU.

According to Berry Tramel, OU wasn't enomored with any of those.  They only wanted Pitt and oddly enough WVU.  After Ark laughed right in their ugly faces.  If OU wanted them or BYU, we'd have a league right now.  And more than likely, PItt and Cuse stay in the BE because it wouldn't have driven this herd mentality of inevitable super conferences/expansion.

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« Reply #12119 on: September 18, 2011, 05:06:39 PM »
On the other hand, a Big Reject DOD has some appeal.  We could get all pissy about being left out of the BCS or other system.

I thought about this the other day. Would it be so terrible to be in a conference that we can win every year, and possibly be a Boise State or something? Would be so terrible to a Memphis of basketball? I know neither of these scenarios are ideal. But I can think of far worse fates.

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« Reply #12120 on: September 18, 2011, 05:06:44 PM »
PeteThamelNYT Pete Thamel
I've confirmed the meeting between Larry Scott and Texas' Dodds and Powers in LA. The four B12 schools trending West, but not done yet.[\b]

:gocho:

I'm really hoping UT and OU come to their senses and pick off UL, Cincy, and TCU.

replace cincy w/ BYU

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« Reply #12121 on: September 18, 2011, 05:06:57 PM »
It will some down to: how and can Athletic Departments detach themselves from their schools?

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« Reply #12122 on: September 18, 2011, 05:07:09 PM »
PeteThamelNYT Pete Thamel
I've confirmed the meeting between Larry Scott and Texas' Dodds and Powers in LA. The four B12 schools trending West, but not done yet.[\b]

:gocho:

I'm really hoping UT and OU come to their senses and pick off UL, Cincy, and TCU.

According to Berry Tramel, OU wasn't enomored with any of those.  They only wanted Pitt and oddly enough WVU.  After Ark laughed right in their ugly faces.  If OU wanted them or BYU, we'd have a league right now.  And more than likely, PItt and Cuse stay in the BE because it wouldn't have driven this herd mentality of inevitabile super conferences/expansion.

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« Reply #12123 on: September 18, 2011, 05:08:37 PM »
It will some down to: how and can Athletic Departments detach themselves from their schools?

that would be an insta-kill to the NCAA
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« Reply #12124 on: September 18, 2011, 05:08:41 PM »
The ACC takes UCONN and Rutgers to get to 16. The SEC takes UL and WVU to get to 16. The big 10 finally convinces ND to join and takes MU with them. Then they look around and see no other viable options so it's either KU and ISU at that point or poach a couple of ACC teams. They poach the ACC taking Maryland and Virginia. Then the ACC is looking around for two more viable replacements and it's either some combo of Cincy, S. Florida, Baylor, ISU, TCU and BYU or the sweet package deal of KU and K-State. Cincy is shittier than K-State in athletics and academics so they are out TCU and Baylor are shitty small religious schools so they are out. S. Florida is out cause they are a shitty school in a state the ACC already has a big footprint in. ISU offers nothing except an AAU rating so they are out. BYU is way too far away so they are out. The ACC would love to have blue blood KU in basketball and K-State also adds to the basketball picture so it's a no brainer here. They take KU and K-State to get back to 16.

ACC just upped their buyout by $10MM, doubt anyone is leaving.

I wouldn't count on any team turning down the big 10, no matter what the buyout is. You all can sit back and think the sky is falling but I'm still feeling confident we will end up in one of the super conferences when I look at who the options would be in our place.
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