Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....

[ew2x4]

Ku does not go to the big 10 without ksu or ksu in a AQ conference. Politically these are facts.

No they are not facts.  The state of Kansas is about to have to make Sophie's choice.

Not sure why this is so hard to grasp for some people.

And it's really not that politically difficult to justify.  Relegate one school to purgatory or both?

JFC.  Just look at Colorado/Colorado State.

CSU was always in a lesser conference, though. Different scenario.

[wabash909]

Ku does not go to the big 10 without ksu or ksu in a AQ conference. Politically these are facts.

No they are not facts.  The state of Kansas is about to have to make Sophie's choice.

It is known that the Kansas BOR can't afford to have another wsu. Captain Crap will back me up.

Here's what else the BOR can't afford, three WSU's.

["storm"nut]

Ku does not go to the big 10 without ksu or ksu in a AQ conference. Politically these are facts.

No they are not facts.  The state of Kansas is about to have to make Sophie's choice.

Not sure why this is so hard to grasp for some people.

And it's really not that politically difficult to justify.  Relegate one school to purgatory or both?

JFC.  Just look at Colorado/Colorado State.

But together that does not happen dumb ass. We reform the big 12 with the scraps of the big east. Ku can't justify kill ksu while that option is on the table and it will never not be an option

[Pete]

KU and KSU are a package deal, period.

Cite the authority for this.  TIA.

[sonofdaxjones]

They aren't a package deal when push comes to shove, get real.

[ew2x4]

KState
KU
ISU
MU
Baylor

Cinci
UL
USF
TCU

AFA
BSU
BYU

May as well be a MWC part 2.

[theKSU]

BYU = not having any part of that garbage.  Boise maybe, they're pretty much doing whatever they can to whore into an AQ.

[ew2x4]

BYU = not having any part of that garbage.  Boise maybe, they're pretty much doing whatever they can to whore into an AQ.

Kind of the point I was trying to make.

[Houstoncat93]

   
Also, schools like Missouri and Kansas would have to be convinced to stay in the Big 12 when they have other options, sources said.

what options?  seriously.  MU, maybe.  KU?  It's in everyone's best interest for the big 12 to stay together.  jfc, this is maddening. 

Big 10....seriously

KU?  Why would they add ku but not mu?  MU isn't going Sec if big 10 comes calling.  big 10 isn't adding both.
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Take a look at the best 3 aau schools for the big 10.....nd is #4 of course

[sys]

ku may be an option if the big ten goes to 16.

the big 10 going to 16 (without texas or nd) would mean that the commis. convinced an overwhelming majority of current big 10 schools that they should each make less money, play a less appealing conference schedule and insert culturally different schools into their conference.

[wabash909]

Ku does not go to the big 10 without ksu or ksu in a AQ conference. Politically these are facts.

No they are not facts.  The state of Kansas is about to have to make Sophie's choice.

Not sure why this is so hard to grasp for some people.

And it's really not that politically difficult to justify.  Relegate one school to purgatory or both?

JFC.  Just look at Colorado/Colorado State.

But together that does not happen dumb ass. We reform the big 12 with the scraps of the big east. Ku can't justify kill ksu while that option is on the table and it will never not be an option

That's Conference USA, stormnut.  Sorry you can't grasp that.

And the BoR is not relegating two to mid major status, if one can stay at the BCS level.

It's not ideal, but it's reality.

[Panjandrum]

Why am I the only one not panicking?

[ew2x4]

Why am I the only one not panicking?

Absolutely no idea.

Have to admit, I am getting pretty pumped about seeing KSU play at Air Force.

[michigancat]

ku may be an option if the big ten goes to 16.

the big 10 going to 16 (without texas or nd) would mean that the commis. convinced an overwhelming majority of current big 10 schools that they should each make less money, play a less appealing conference schedule and insert culturally different schools into their conference.

I know. That isn't too different than OU/OSU going to the Pac, though. But I agree it's an extreme scenario.

[Panjandrum]

Why am I the only one not panicking?

Absolutely no idea.

Have to admit, I am getting pretty pumped about seeing KSU play at Air Force.

Maybe I'm just not capable of seeing how all of these conferences disintegrate simultaneously without there being some sort of significant legal or political ramification.

[Pendergast]

KU and KSU are a package deal, period.

Cite the authority for this.  TIA.

Zero incentive to do so.

[sonofdaxjones]

We're still in, "Everybody is trying to be the one with the story" mode, Chip Brown alone has tweeted or said about 173 different scenarios at this juncture.  

Still don't see Texas going to another conference unless it's absolutely the only choice that they have.   They're not giving up their aspirations of what they want the LHN to be until the fat lady has sung and the writing on the wall is considered ancient hieroglyphics . . . IMO.

["storm"nut]

IMO the Big 10 will be happy at 12 until  ND is ready to join. Even then I believe they will be happy at 14

[PoetWarrior]

I want the teams we play to be interesting, more so than they are now.

[michigancat]

Why am I the only one not panicking?

I'm not panicking, mainly because I'm not convinced OU and UT are gone yet. (Because the Big 12 adding BYU still makes the most sense for everyone involved.)

[Houstoncat93]

IMO the Big 10 will be happy at 12 until  ND is ready to join. Even then I believe they will be happy at 14

I agree....I think the Big 10 stays out of this round.  

[bws]

 With the SEC effectively being shut out of the ACC now and their only choice being WV regionally looking east.

Maybe KU, K-State and Mizzou as a package deal look attractive to get them to 16?

[Houstoncat93]

Why am I the only one not panicking?

I'm not panicking, mainly because I'm not convinced OU and UT are gone yet. (Because the Big 12 adding BYU still makes the most sense for everyone involved.)

If OU is staying they are doing a real good job of controlling leaks to the media.  

[wabash909]

Breaking: PAC-12 hammering out details with Tech, OU, OSU and Texas

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The Pac-12 appears to be working out the final details of a deal that would bring Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Texas Tech to the conference, a well-placed source close to the situation told Hookem.com on Sunday morning.

Nothing has been accepted or approved, yet, but the deal would allow the Longhorns to keep the Longhorn Network. Texas would have to add Pac-12 (soon to be 16) content to the LHN programming. The Longhorns would be able to keep all of their revenue from the network. However, if one-sixteenth of the money the Pac-12 receives from third-tier rights ends up being a larger amount, the schools would divide the revenue evenly and everybody would receive the same amount, the source said.

[Houstoncat93]

With the SEC effectively being shut out of the ACC now and their only choice being WV regionally looking east.

Maybe KU, K-State and Mizzou as a package deal look attractive to get them to 16?

No reason for the SEC to add KU\K-State just to get to 16.  The $ would not be there