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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #36100 on: August 17, 2023, 04:11:54 AM »
I would guess they would be lucky to get 10 million per school.  Some of those schools are bottom tier.
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« Reply #36101 on: August 17, 2023, 10:51:13 AM »
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I want to know what kind of media deal that conference can bag

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I would guess they would be lucky to get 10 million per school.  Some of those schools are bottom tier.

I honestly think KU football's TV ratings would be higher during their winless seasons than some of those schools. They'll be fortunate to get a TV deal at all.

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« Reply #36102 on: August 17, 2023, 11:41:44 AM »
I would guess they would be lucky to get 10 million per school.  Some of those schools are bottom tier.

yeah maybe in the 7ish range?

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #36104 on: August 17, 2023, 01:36:37 PM »
so does Gonzaga Uconn being laughed out of the room confirm basketball is utterly worthless?

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« Reply #36105 on: August 17, 2023, 01:40:34 PM »
so does Gonzaga Uconn being laughed out of the room confirm basketball is utterly worthless?
Until they pull out the top 40 football brands and create a football only league.

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« Reply #36106 on: August 17, 2023, 01:53:21 PM »
so does Gonzaga Uconn being laughed out of the room confirm basketball is utterly worthless?
Until they pull out the top 40 football brands and create a football only league.

The stuff I have been hearing is the A4(P5) conferences want to come together and get a single media contract that would only include football.  They can get the rest of their sports individually per conference so they can keep that part more regional and not have to follow whatever schedule the schools make for FB. 
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #36107 on: August 17, 2023, 01:54:22 PM »
so does Gonzaga Uconn being laughed out of the room confirm basketball is utterly worthless?
Until they pull out the top 40 football brands and create a football only league.

The stuff I have been hearing is the A4(P5) conferences want to come together and get a single media contract that would only include football.  They can get the rest of their sports individually per conference so they can keep that part more regional and not have to follow whatever schedule the schools make for FB.

You got a credible link for that, chiefaronee?

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #36108 on: August 17, 2023, 02:36:42 PM »
BTW, Marchand and Ourand interviewed Brett Yormark and BY said BB is worth 25% of the media contract.
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #36109 on: August 17, 2023, 02:42:38 PM »
so does Gonzaga Uconn being laughed out of the room confirm basketball is utterly worthless?
Until they pull out the top 40 football brands and create a football only league.

The stuff I have been hearing is the A4(P5) conferences want to come together and get a single media contract that would only include football.  They can get the rest of their sports individually per conference so they can keep that part more regional and not have to follow whatever schedule the schools make for FB.

You got a credible link for that, chiefaronee?

Not one link, because I have been watching serval podcasts and tweeter posts over the past week.  It's ADs and coaches saying these ideas.  They mainly don't want FB in the same media contract and think other sports should be regional.  Also, they don't think anything will happen until the next round of media negotiations start in the 2030s.
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« Reply #36110 on: August 17, 2023, 02:51:31 PM »
Imaging little ol' KSU getting paid the same amount as Texas/Alabama/OhioState/NotreDame for football media

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« Reply #36111 on: August 17, 2023, 03:05:20 PM »
I think they will leave out the poor FB schools that don't add value to the contract.  Maryland, Purdue, Rutgers, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Missippie State, Syracuse, Boston College, Wake Forest, Kansas, and any others that don't add value.  These schools would need to get whatever the combined BB and other sports media contracts would pay them.  They could grab onto a G5-type contract for FB.
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #36112 on: August 17, 2023, 04:22:30 PM »
I think they will leave out the poor FB schools that don't add value to the contract.  Maryland, Purdue, Rutgers, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Missippie State, Syracuse, Boston College, Wake Forest, Kansas, and any others that don't add value.  These schools would need to get whatever the combined BB and other sports media contracts would pay them.  They could grab onto a G5-type contract for FB.

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« Reply #36113 on: August 17, 2023, 05:59:17 PM »
BTW, Marchand and Ourand interviewed Brett Yormark and BY said BB is worth 25% of the media contract.

He said BB delivers 25% of the audience but is not being valued at that 25% in the deal.

https://x.com/ourand_sbj/status/1691908925916901507?s=46&t=rnQa-petgCWbQ_c2Di-DbQ

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #36114 on: August 17, 2023, 06:19:50 PM »
The Sunflower Showdown guarantees that KU will maintain football relevance.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #36115 on: August 17, 2023, 09:57:27 PM »
BTW, Marchand and Ourand interviewed Brett Yormark and BY said BB is worth 25% of the media contract.

He said BB delivers 25% of the audience but is not being valued at that 25% in the deal.

https://x.com/ourand_sbj/status/1691908925916901507?s=46&t=rnQa-petgCWbQ_c2Di-DbQ

I think that is what I said.  It may not be word for word quote but what I said is the same thing.
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #36116 on: August 17, 2023, 10:01:20 PM »
The Sunflower Showdown guarantees that KU will maintain football relevance.

Not when they are negotiating for the top payout.  I don't think a school with 14 losing seasons in a row and a stadium that is in horrendous shape is a good bargaining chip.
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #36119 on: August 20, 2023, 02:36:13 PM »
https://twitter.com/jjfuller72/status/1693224026259218687?s=20

"Observations/Disclaimers:
-Stanford at 15th and #1 in the Pac-12 stands out.  Have to think this is largely based on wealthy donors & interest accrued from their rumored $1 Billion athletic endowment
-P5 money advantage is massive; barely any cross-over between those in the P5 conferences and all those that aren't/weren't
-SEC will have 10 of the top 14 revenue schools starting in 2024 (and 12 of the top 19)
-Many athletic depts (especially lower tier P5 and all G5s) are heavily subsidized by direct institutional support and/or student fees.  While EADA filings do not detail this figure, the info is available for all public universities via USAToday, KnightCommission, or Sportico
-Not all schools report revenues from the same sources and so there are some inherent outliers
-Total revenue figures are not necessarily a direct surrogate for "brand strength" due to many of the reasons above"
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #36120 on: August 20, 2023, 02:47:52 PM »
Huh. It appears KU leads the new Big 12 in revenue. Imagine that.

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« Reply #36121 on: August 20, 2023, 03:58:40 PM »
KU already richer than 8 of their future big 10 mates is pretty impressive.
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #36122 on: August 20, 2023, 06:19:40 PM »
That guy is a clown.


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« Reply #36123 on: August 20, 2023, 10:33:00 PM »
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« Reply #36124 on: August 21, 2023, 07:48:50 AM »
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