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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #35775 on: August 02, 2023, 02:38:41 PM »
Not sure a half share of the big 10 is really any better than a full share in the Big 12.  I would imagine they probably have some language that they will get a full share in the next round of TV contracts though?

It is. The only thing better about the Big 12 is the travel. Half of the Big 10 share is more money and greater academic and athletic prestige.

If the Big 10 offers UW/UO anything at all, the Big 12 shouldn't take them.

Why? do we want to cut off our nose to spite our faces? Anyone can be plucked in the next round of realignment. We need to do what's best for us now. Personally I think what's best is to just stick to regionalization, but that's out, for now anyway.

If they are only coming to wait out the Big 10's next media deal, that doesn't really help us negotiate our next deal. And it doesn't really help us in the meantime because the pro rata clause applies regardless of which P5 schools we take. Better to grab ASU and Utah.

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« Reply #35776 on: August 02, 2023, 02:50:33 PM »
twitter/x saying big 10 is looking at OR/WA/CAL/STAN. Cal would have to be the most undeserving school to get into a major conference of all time.

What did the state decide for Cal when USC/UCLA left?  I thought USC/UCLA had to share some of their distribution or something.  The only reason I can think for adding Cal would be to appease USC and UCLA on that end. 

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« Reply #35777 on: August 02, 2023, 02:54:12 PM »
I prob post this map way too often, but the conference coalescing is pretty interesting in comparison.




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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #35778 on: August 02, 2023, 02:56:22 PM »
Not sure a half share of the big 10 is really any better than a full share in the Big 12.  I would imagine they probably have some language that they will get a full share in the next round of TV contracts though?

It is. The only thing better about the Big 12 is the travel. Half of the Big 10 share is more money and greater academic and athletic prestige.

If the Big 10 offers UW/UO anything at all, the Big 12 shouldn't take them.

Why? do we want to cut off our nose to spite our faces? Anyone can be plucked in the next round of realignment. We need to do what's best for us now. Personally I think what's best is to just stick to regionalization, but that's out, for now anyway.

If they are only coming to wait out the Big 10's next media deal, that doesn't really help us negotiate our next deal. And it doesn't really help us in the meantime because the pro rata clause applies regardless of which P5 schools we take. Better to grab ASU and Utah.

The Big 10's deal expires before ours, they're going to dictate the market regardless. It makes sense to have the best programs available in our hands going into that time frame than just to let them sit out there because we're scared of maybes. That's like not hiring the best coach available because you think he's going to be good then go somewhere else.

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« Reply #35779 on: August 02, 2023, 03:14:46 PM »
Cal wouldn't be any less deserving than Rutgers was.

maybe true, but you'd think they would have learned from adding rutgers. Guess they're ready to do it all over again.

They got exactly what they were looking for when they added Rutgers and that reason has nothing to do with anything they would do with any school now. They needed cable carriers in NYC and DC for the Big 10 Network, that's why they added Rutgers and Maryland, no other reason and it completely worked. Now the question is whether they needed to add Rutgers to get the big cable carriers in NYC, but they got them regardless.

Yeah, it seems stupid, but just like now, it was about money back then and there are a crap load of people paying for the Big 10 Network in the NY area that don't even know where it is in the guide.

I would guess there are more hardcore Penn State, Ohio State, and Michigan fans in NYC than Rutgers fans. Becky Quick and a guy I work with are the only Rutgers fans I've ever seen and I don't think the guy I work with is even much of a fan.

what I'm saying is adding Rutgers seemed pretty dumb

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« Reply #35781 on: August 02, 2023, 03:31:27 PM »
Rutgers and Maryland are still not getting full revenue sharing so whoever the big 10 adds this round isn't going to be rolling in it for a while.
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« Reply #35782 on: August 02, 2023, 08:04:25 PM »
Between their obsessions with academics and Notre Dame, seems plausible that the Big Ten could take only Washington and Stanford.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #35783 on: August 02, 2023, 08:14:18 PM »
Between their obsessions with academics and Notre Dame, seems plausible that the Big Ten could take only Washington and Stanford.

https://twitter.com/MHver3/status/1686902517702025217

Well, if his sources are good, they aren't, we're down to Utah or Oregon, the Arizona schools are a wrap.
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« Reply #35784 on: August 02, 2023, 08:32:40 PM »
Holy crap! This is happening!

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« Reply #35785 on: August 02, 2023, 09:31:54 PM »
I am thinking we should take up a collection and send Washington State and Oregon State a box of cigars and maybe a recording of the band.

Starting to feel for those guys.

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« Reply #35786 on: August 02, 2023, 09:34:49 PM »
I choose the Ducks over the Utahs. Although watching UU/BYU would be pretty funny.

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« Reply #35787 on: August 02, 2023, 09:35:38 PM »
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« Reply #35788 on: August 02, 2023, 10:08:54 PM »
I am thinking we should take up a collection and send Washington State and Oregon State a box of cigars and maybe a recording of the band.

Starting to feel for those guys.

Wazzu is a train wreck,  but I agree with you on Oregon State.   Will likely be a few ACC schools that suffer the same fate once that conference is plundered.
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« Reply #35789 on: August 02, 2023, 10:13:30 PM »
Arizona is a wasteland full of absolute wretched human beings and obviously a good fit for the Big 12 unfortunately. bring those downgrades on I guess. Would rather have Colorado State than either of them.

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« Reply #35790 on: August 02, 2023, 10:15:35 PM »
Arizona is a wasteland full of absolute wretched human beings and obviously a good fit for the Big 12 unfortunately. bring those downgrades on I guess. Would rather have Colorado State than either of them.

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« Reply #35791 on: August 02, 2023, 10:25:17 PM »
Arizona is a wasteland full of absolute wretched human beings and obviously a good fit for the Big 12 unfortunately. bring those downgrades on I guess. Would rather have Colorado State than either of them.

On account of the fast, easy women?

I'm not talking about that, but you obviously are and I am.

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« Reply #35792 on: August 02, 2023, 10:28:00 PM »
that was poorly crafted and shoot from the hip attempt at parroting a classic MST3K line, "I'm not high, but my dog is. And I am"

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« Reply #35793 on: August 02, 2023, 10:30:50 PM »
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« Reply #35794 on: August 03, 2023, 12:16:14 AM »
that was poorly crafted and shoot from the hip attempt at parroting a classic MST3K line, "I'm not high, but my dog is. And I am"

I forgive you, on account of you being a MST3K fan.
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« Reply #35795 on: August 03, 2023, 07:31:14 AM »
I cannot imagine the big 10 taking Cal and Stanford over FSU and Clemson, if they were dead set on going to 20 schools. Despite their public personas, their members all know now that academics is second to money in conference realignment.

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« Reply #35796 on: August 03, 2023, 07:32:27 AM »
Plus, I doubt that the big 10 ever goes to 20 without Notre Dame.

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« Reply #35797 on: August 03, 2023, 07:56:44 AM »
Arizona is a wasteland full of absolute wretched human beings and obviously a good fit for the Big 12 unfortunately. bring those downgrades on I guess. Would rather have Colorado State than either of them.

Is the fanbase / student pop anything close to the actual populations of Arizona? Isn't ASU some ultra party school?

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« Reply #35798 on: August 03, 2023, 08:10:18 AM »
Arizona is a wasteland full of absolute wretched human beings and obviously a good fit for the Big 12 unfortunately. bring those downgrades on I guess. Would rather have Colorado State than either of them.

Is the fanbase / student pop anything close to the actual populations of Arizona? Isn't ASU some ultra party school?
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« Reply #35799 on: August 03, 2023, 08:57:07 AM »
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