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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #31075 on: July 24, 2021, 03:42:55 PM »
"Market size" is flawed.  In bigger markets, there's a shitload of other competing things and less of a connection between the market and any one thing.

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« Reply #31076 on: July 24, 2021, 03:55:51 PM »
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« Reply #31077 on: July 24, 2021, 03:59:40 PM »
OU and Texas games removed. Anyone want to add up total viewers for each school's games?



OSU   10.88
WVU   8.64
ISU   8.47
KSU   8.27
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TTU   5.89
TCU   5.85
BU   5.04
KU   3.42

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« Reply #31078 on: July 24, 2021, 04:04:44 PM »
"Market size" is flawed.  In bigger markets, there's a shitload of other competing things and less of a connection between the market and any one thing.

Market size matters, to tv execs, in ad sales because the sales are done before the fact so the potential audience size have a greater effect on ad rates than the actual numbers, especially in college sports which tends to be volatile.

It's exactly why the Big 10 needed Rutgers and Maryland. It was a low stakes wager that those two programs would become relevant in two huge markets.

Of course you're correct that this hardly ever ever comes to fruition because college sports teams in large metro areas generally don't rate well. Even in a place like Houston, which you'd think would do very well, are generally lukewarm for live sports ratings. If you look at sports ratings it's always mid sized markets that lead ratings of live sports, places like Kansas City, Tampa, Minneapolis, Raleigh, Salt Lake, and Birmingham.

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« Reply #31079 on: July 24, 2021, 04:04:57 PM »
"Market size" is flawed.  In bigger markets, there's a shitload of other competing things and less of a connection between the market and any one thing.
Pretty sure CK made a similar argument for NLI having a lot of potential at KSU. But yeah, a Cal football game doesn't get any attention whatsoever, anywhere.

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« Reply #31080 on: July 24, 2021, 04:12:20 PM »
On local radio here they were talking yesterday about who the PAC should poach and said ku b/c it’s 40 miles from the kc market, which is insane both because lol at anyone living in kc and being compelled for that reason to watch ku football and also because the hosts are in seattle and should be very aware that the vast majority of residents have no connection to or interest in uw even though the stadium is close enough to be accessible by small battery-powered inflatable raft from downtown.

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« Reply #31081 on: July 24, 2021, 04:29:32 PM »
We've always had very good tv numbers and have never gotten credit for it because sports media are generally lazy and constantly seek confirmation bias.


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« Reply #31082 on: July 24, 2021, 04:52:50 PM »
On local radio here they were talking yesterday about who the PAC should poach and said ku b/c it’s 40 miles from the kc market, which is insane both because lol at anyone living in kc and being compelled for that reason to watch ku football and also because the hosts are in seattle and should be very aware that the vast majority of residents have no connection to or interest in uw even though the stadium is close enough to be accessible by small battery-powered inflatable raft from downtown.

Maybe it's because the Jayhawks of Kansas have the strongest national brand outside of OU/UT. We are America's Team (see our color scheme). The Lawrence Liberals would be the best fit culturally and academically of the remaining flunkies. And PAC football already sucks.

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« Reply #31085 on: July 24, 2021, 05:30:58 PM »
How humiliating.

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« Reply #31086 on: July 24, 2021, 05:32:49 PM »
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« Reply #31088 on: July 24, 2021, 05:38:25 PM »
I hope at some point all our ADs offer Texas and OU the combined payouts of their life insurance policies.

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« Reply #31089 on: July 24, 2021, 05:41:13 PM »
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« Reply #31090 on: July 24, 2021, 05:43:42 PM »
I expect University Presidents to offer Prima Nocta to UT/OU.

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« Reply #31092 on: July 24, 2021, 05:46:11 PM »
Let’s talk the 80m buyout to get their TV rights back before they expire in 2024.  They aren’t paying more than like 20M to settle right?
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« Reply #31093 on: July 24, 2021, 05:46:28 PM »
I expect University Presidents to offer Prima Nocta to UT/OU.

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« Reply #31094 on: July 24, 2021, 06:03:14 PM »
Let’s talk the 80m buyout to get their TV rights back before they expire in 2024.  They aren’t paying more than like 20M to settle right?
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« Reply #31095 on: July 24, 2021, 07:08:48 PM »
Pretty sad about it all. IRL gonna eat some Ben and Jerry’s in the bathtub and have an extremely fatalistic terror spiral about the whole thing tonight, then just convince myself I’m better off without sports in my life. And then I’ll move to convincing myself that none of it matters because climate change will sink us all, anyway.
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« Reply #31096 on: July 24, 2021, 07:12:25 PM »
Also I will be listening to Olivia Rodrigo “Driver’s License” on repeat.
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« Reply #31097 on: July 24, 2021, 07:31:42 PM »
I don't think this is the end of ditching the lower brands in college football.

I have zero clue why any power 4 conference would take any of us in and split the revenue even further at this point.  I wouldn't be shocked if USC, UCLA and maybe Oregon leave the Pac12.  TV contracts are gonna drive this to a college/developmental league for the NFL with hopes to keep a college vibe.  I assume 20-30 of the top football brands will be in this.  The tv payout will be absolutely bonkers.

The rest of us going pro in something other than sports, will likely keep a D1/FCS rule book around with some improvements.  And possibly the top programs in this class have the potential for expansion to the big league.  Seeing what the NFL tv payout is for NFL teams, you gotta think a top program league can get 50% of that.
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« Reply #31098 on: July 24, 2021, 07:47:45 PM »
Sandy and salty up in here right now


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« Reply #31099 on: July 24, 2021, 09:30:00 PM »
https://twitter.com/dennisdoddcbs/status/1419052062730502158

Luckily this was discussed, which means Baylor said "what about we try this..." and everyone said "naw, eff that."

Discussion is far from an offer, I'm glad they're discussing all possible avenues.

Some of y'all are really emotional.