Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....

[wabash909]

This plane's going down, boys.

Some smart guy on a BYU board breaks it down.

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Re: Along similar lines...   Reply
...a post from a guy who sounds like he knows a thing or two (in the BYU board) regarding that CU meeting:

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It's actually pretty simple. Colorado is discussing how to properly avoid paying the massive exit fee imposed by the Big 12.

First of all, don't be fooled. Inviting Colorado now (it's not 'official' yet, FYI) is not a unilateral decision by the Pac-10. UT and A&M are behind this, but they are very skillfully covering their fingerprints.

The big Texas schools have no interest in Baylor whatsoever. BU flushes millions of dollars in BCS money down the toilet every year and brings nothing to the table. It ceased being a serious football team many years ago. The big boys would much rather have Colorado for market reasons, and because the Buffalos actually might be competitive again some day.

Larry Scott is on the verge of tendering this preemptive offer with the full blessing and encouragement of UT and A&M for one reason: It neutralizes the Texas politicians' ability to complicate things.

Nebraska is about to trigger the Big 12 collapse, so the Texas schools have to do something. But, the Texas suits have no ammunition to force Baylor into the mix if the Pac-10 is already the Pac-11. UT and A&M can shrug and say, "Sorry, we tried." The Pac-10 can shrug and say, "We couldn't just sit around, we had to do something." And Baylor gets the shaft.

But back to the secret meeting, Colorado's tentative (again, it's not a done deal) plan is to accept a preemptive invitation, and then take some initial legal measure to contest the B12's buyout clause. The only reason for doing that is to tie it up in court just long enough for the conference to dissolve, leaving no legal entity left to collect the check. This meeting will be to discuss the specific legal strategy, dot the i's and cross the t's, as well as develop a contingency in case something goes seriously wrong and the Big 12 doesn't actually implode as planned.

The MWC is patiently waiting to pick up the pieces. But, buyer beware, they may not get them. If the Kansas schools, Missouri, and Baylor can't be lured by the MWC itself, BYU, TCU, and Utah are prepared to break off and help form a new conference with the hope of a BCS autobid.

I also heard something else interesting today that I'll throw in as food for thought... don't be surprised if five or so years from now BYU and Utah are in the same conference as....


Arizona and Arizona State.

Not everyone down in the desert likes the way things are going right now.

[steve dave]

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seems to fit

[Stupid Fitz]

Do the old cowboys from Texas realize they will have to stay up late to watch football if this happens.

[sonofdaxjones]

This plane's going down, boys.

Some smart guy on a BYU board breaks it down.

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Re: Along similar lines...   Reply
...a post from a guy who sounds like he knows a thing or two (in the BYU board) regarding that CU meeting:

-----

It's actually pretty simple. Colorado is discussing how to properly avoid paying the massive exit fee imposed by the Big 12.

First of all, don't be fooled. Inviting Colorado now (it's not 'official' yet, FYI) is not a unilateral decision by the Pac-10. UT and A&M are behind this, but they are very skillfully covering their fingerprints.

The big Texas schools have no interest in Baylor whatsoever. BU flushes millions of dollars in BCS money down the toilet every year and brings nothing to the table. It ceased being a serious football team many years ago. The big boys would much rather have Colorado for market reasons, and because the Buffalos actually might be competitive again some day.

Larry Scott is on the verge of tendering this preemptive offer with the full blessing and encouragement of UT and A&M for one reason: It neutralizes the Texas politicians' ability to complicate things.

Nebraska is about to trigger the Big 12 collapse, so the Texas schools have to do something. But, the Texas suits have no ammunition to force Baylor into the mix if the Pac-10 is already the Pac-11. UT and A&M can shrug and say, "Sorry, we tried." The Pac-10 can shrug and say, "We couldn't just sit around, we had to do something." And Baylor gets the shaft.

But back to the secret meeting, Colorado's tentative (again, it's not a done deal) plan is to accept a preemptive invitation, and then take some initial legal measure to contest the B12's buyout clause. The only reason for doing that is to tie it up in court just long enough for the conference to dissolve, leaving no legal entity left to collect the check. This meeting will be to discuss the specific legal strategy, dot the i's and cross the t's, as well as develop a contingency in case something goes seriously wrong and the Big 12 doesn't actually implode as planned.

The MWC is patiently waiting to pick up the pieces. But, buyer beware, they may not get them. If the Kansas schools, Missouri, and Baylor can't be lured by the MWC itself, BYU, TCU, and Utah are prepared to break off and help form a new conference with the hope of a BCS autobid.

I also heard something else interesting today that I'll throw in as food for thought... don't be surprised if five or so years from now BYU and Utah are in the same conference as....


Arizona and Arizona State.

Not everyone down in the desert likes the way things are going right now.

All speculation I know but . . . good luck to BYU, TCU and Utah in forming that new conference with an auto BCS bid if the rest of this stuff comes to pass.   Why wouldn't they immediately look at getting 3 or 4 former BCS conference schools . . . if Arizona and Arizona State are pissed, all the better that would give BYU, Utah and TCU 5 or 6 BCS conference refugees right out of the gate.    Otherwise who would they get??  Boise State, Fresno State, Houston??. . . look east at ECU . . . well good luck with that guys.    

[ew2x4]

Will Texas schools back out if it's CU over Baylor?

Man, this is some crazy crap.

[sonofdaxjones]

Anybody who thinks that a Mountain West with the addition of Boise State isn't a "legit" league in Football is a dumbass.  

How many times does it have to said . . . MWC plus Boise State: 4-1 in BCS Bowls and the only reason there's a 1, is because 2 had to play each other.  

The only issue with the MWC is financial, and in basketball to a certain extent.   But in Football as far as actual on the field performance goes the top of the MWC+Boise State takes a backseat to no one.  As I said in another thread, the top MWC team+Boise State walks through the Big 12 North in 4 of the last 6 years.  

Cornhole scores 6, 2 Field Goals this last year if they play TCU . . . maybe.

Oh please Daxi, enlighten us with more of your prognostications! Tell us mere mortals how this conference realignment will end up. We wait with bated breath for your next appearance   

Get over yourself

So you highlighted my score prediction for Cornhole TCU and then you don't say anything about it.

1.  We now know something they don't teach in State of Nebraska GED and VoTech courses . . . Sarcasm.

2.  Cornhole doesn't score more than 6 against TCU.

[yosh]

The MWC is patiently waiting to pick up the pieces. But, buyer beware, they may not get them. If the Kansas schools, Missouri, and Baylor can't be lured by the MWC itself, BYU, TCU, and Utah are prepared to break off and help form a new conference with the hope of a BCS autobid.

All speculation I know but . . . good luck to BYU, TCU and Utah in forming that new conference with an auto BCS bid if the rest of this stuff comes to pass.   Why wouldn't they immediately look at getting 3 or 4 former BCS conference schools . . . if Arizona and Arizona State are pissed, all the better that would give BYU, Utah and TCU 5 or 6 BCS conference refugees right out of the gate.    Otherwise who would they get??  Boise State, Fresno State, Houston??. . . look east at ECU . . . well good luck with that guys.    

I read this as:  BYU,TCU and Utah will join KU, K-State, Baylor & ISU in forming a new conference if the MWC can't lure the Big 12 scraps in.

[Cire]

Wants no part of SEC.

[TheMadCatter]

Question for Dax-

Will the fans of the Mountain West schools be happy to have Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State and Baylor/Colorado or are they afraid we'll be mean and bossy ala a poor man's Texas? Sure it'll get them BCS status most likely, but I went to a UNLV site and some poster seemed really bitchy to the idea.

Thanks. I'll listen off the line.

[Ghost of Stan Parrish]

Some smart guy on a BYU board breaks it down.

Re: Along similar lines...   Reply
...a post from a guy who sounds like he knows a thing or two (in the BYU board) regarding that CU meeting:

But back to the secret meeting, Colorado's tentative (again, it's not a done deal) plan is to accept a preemptive invitation, and then take some initial legal measure to contest the B12's buyout clause. The only reason for doing that is to tie it up in court just long enough for the conference to dissolve, leaving no legal entity left to collect the check.

I don't know about that.  I think the corporate entity will stick around for quite a while if there's a potential $80 million check coming in (from 8 departing teams).  I don't know the Big 12 bylaws, but I read somewhere it takes 9 votes to dissolve the conference.

[chum1]

Love all of the MWC and SEC chatter.  This is a doomsday thread if doom means Christmas.

[pissclams]

It's just my opinion that I'd rather be in a legitimate conference rather than a mid-major.  I want to see K-State compete for championships in a legit league.

you weren't alive the last time K-State competed for championships in a legit league but thanks for the input

Is it that time of the month for you?

Only a f'n moron would disagree with what he said.

stfu downgrade, learn your fracking role.

It's just my opinion that I'd rather be in a legitimate conference rather than a mid-major.  I want to see K-State compete for championships in a legit league.

you weren't alive the last time K-State competed for championships in a legit league but thanks for the input

So?  He still can have that opinion and have it be completely valid.  I mean I'm a graduate of MHS and a support the MazzuIhndzzz 4 life, but it just isn't as fun trouncing the fracking Centennial League as it was back in the day when the I-70 was a gauntlet that had to be run through.

keep drinking, dumbass.

here's to hoping his next post is "water is wet", oh wait, i think he already posted that. 

Honest question Clams.  Do you seriously feel cool?

yes.  almost as cool as you feel when you pound a liter of jim beam.

Don't take this the wrong way...but I'm pretty sure no one feels as cool as R-Dubs after a liter of Jim Beam. Why don't you go fist bump a cigar store Indian and barf on a windshield in a Wal-Mart parking lot? Oh...wait...it's because you're not that cool.

@ r-dubs

I have it on good authority that 'lams coppin' a tude has driven traffic away from this site.   

my poster intimidation knows no bounds

[pissclams]

Love all of the MWC and SEC chatter.  This is a doomsday thread if doom means Christmas.

i enjoyed how all the MWC posers perked their ears up when the SEC got mentioned.  either you're with the MWC or you're against it.  there's nothing in between.  dumbasses.

[The Whale]

If there's anyone who can get us into the SEC, it's Lew Perkins dragging us in along with KU.

We need to start a petition to the Chancellor over at KU to make sure Lew keeps his job -- at least through the conference realignment.

[tdaver]

Some smart guy on a BYU board breaks it down.

Re: Along similar lines...   Reply
...a post from a guy who sounds like he knows a thing or two (in the BYU board) regarding that CU meeting:

But back to the secret meeting, Colorado's tentative (again, it's not a done deal) plan is to accept a preemptive invitation, and then take some initial legal measure to contest the B12's buyout clause. The only reason for doing that is to tie it up in court just long enough for the conference to dissolve, leaving no legal entity left to collect the check.

I don't know about that.  I think the corporate entity will stick around for quite a while if there's a potential $80 million check coming in (from 8 departing teams).  I don't know the Big 12 bylaws, but I read somewhere it takes 9 votes to dissolve the conference.

$20M each for the 4 remaining teams?  just paid for our BB practice facility.

[Panjandrum]

If there's anyone who can get us into the SEC, it's Lew Perkins dragging us in along with KU.

We need to start a petition to the Chancellor over at KU to make sure Lew keeps his job -- at least through the conference realignment.

Currie won't hurt if we're talking SEC.

I'm not tardish and think he's Moses or anything, but he and Schulz do have some contacts.  So folks might at least pick up the phone and talk to them.

[ew2x4]

If there's anyone who can get us into the SEC, it's Lew Perkins dragging us in along with KU.

We need to start a petition to the Chancellor over at KU to make sure Lew keeps his job -- at least through the conference realignment.

Currie won't hurt if we're talking SEC.

I'm not tardish and think he's Moses or anything, but he and Schulz do have some contacts.  So folks might at least pick up the phone and talk to them.

Great write up on your site, btw.

[ben ji]

  X infinity

[raquetcat]

If there's anyone who can get us into the SEC, it's Lew Perkins dragging us in along with KU.

We need to start a petition to the Chancellor over at KU to make sure Lew keeps his job -- at least through the conference realignment.

Currie won't hurt if we're talking SEC.

I'm not tardish and think he's Moses or anything, but he and Schulz do have some contacts.  So folks might at least pick up the phone and talk to them.

Schulz seems like a nerd, and nobody wants to be the one who invites the nerd to the party (SEC), Currie is like the cool dude's lil brother, who suddenly got older and is getting all the chicks now and EVERYBODY wants to know his secret

[catzacker]

are people, other than just trying to up their post count, actually discussing gettinig a SEC invite with any seriousness. I mean, holy sh*t.  Why not discuss getting an invite from the fracking AFC West?  Or pooping solid gold bricks?  

[Pete]

are people, other than just trying to up their post count, actually discussing gettinig a SEC invite with any seriousness. I mean, holy sh*t.  Why not discuss getting an invite from the fracking AFC West?  Or pooping solid gold bricks?  

Lots of emotion in the process right now. 

I cannot wait until this process is over.

[The42Yardstick]

are people, other than just trying to up their post count, actually discussing gettinig a SEC invite with any seriousness. I mean, holy sh*t.  Why not discuss getting an invite from the fracking AFC West?  Or pooping solid gold bricks?  

Lots of emotion in the process right now. 

I cannot wait until this process is over.

Between this and Texas State, I'm gonna need a pool full of Prozac after this crap's done.

[ChiComCat]

are people, other than just trying to up their post count, actually discussing gettinig a SEC invite with any seriousness. I mean, holy sh*t.  Why not discuss getting an invite from the fracking AFC West?  Or pooping solid gold bricks?  

Agreed.  No way any team in the SEC is like "I think we should cut K-State in on our rich as crap TV contract"

[catzacker]

And as for "connections"...Shultz was a VP at a fracking Mississippi State...not a president and was the Dean of the Chemical Engineering School.  WTF kind of connections do you really think he has?  "hey, remember me, I was at that loser school that everyone kicks the crap out of in the SEC"

And currie was an assistant AD....I'm fracking sure Casey Scott has all kinds of connections too.

[Panjandrum]

And as for "connections"...Shultz was a VP at a fracking Mississippi State...not a president and was the Dean of the Chemical Engineering School.  WTF kind of connections do you really think he has?  "hey, remember me, I was at that loser school that everyone kicks the crap out of in the SEC"

And currie was an assistant AD....I'm fracking sure Casey Scott has all kinds of connections too.

I'm just passing along what I was told.  Nothing more.