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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame Thread (assuming no predecessor to it)
« Reply #25 on: January 08, 2015, 03:14:17 PM »
I haven't mentioned my extreme butthurt on the percentage disparity between Randy and Pedro but WHAT THE eff IS THAT ABOUT??? 9% of voters didn't vote for pedro, I simply don't understand. Tom Glavine got a higher percentage of votes.



Longevity. Pedro's prime was the penultimate among modern pitchers imo. Yes, better than Maddux, because of the DH.

I don't understand what you're saying here, I think you're confused with what my beef is.

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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame Thread (assuming no predecessor to it)
« Reply #26 on: January 08, 2015, 05:31:23 PM »
I haven't mentioned my extreme butthurt on the percentage disparity between Randy and Pedro but WHAT THE eff IS THAT ABOUT??? 9% of voters didn't vote for pedro, I simply don't understand. Tom Glavine got a higher percentage of votes.



Longevity. Pedro's prime was the best among modern pitchers imo. Yes, better than Maddux, because of the DH.

You're extremely butthurt at the percentage disparity between Johnson and Martinez. I think it's about longevity and the things that come with that, like 300 wins and more exciting totals in things like strikeouts.
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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame Thread (assuming no predecessor to it)
« Reply #27 on: January 08, 2015, 07:54:19 PM »
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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame Thread (assuming no predecessor to it)
« Reply #28 on: January 08, 2015, 09:12:31 PM »
I haven't mentioned my extreme butthurt on the percentage disparity between Randy and Pedro but WHAT THE eff IS THAT ABOUT??? 9% of voters didn't vote for pedro, I simply don't understand. Tom Glavine got a higher percentage of votes.



Longevity. Pedro's prime was the best among modern pitchers imo. Yes, better than Maddux, because of the DH.

You're extremely butthurt at the percentage disparity between Johnson and Martinez. I think it's about longevity and the things that come with that, like 300 wins and more exciting totals in things like strikeouts.

It's not a choice between Johnson and Martinez, you can vote for both. Johnson's longevity has nothing to do with 10% of the voters not voting for one of the greatest ever.

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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame Thread (assuming no predecessor to it)
« Reply #29 on: January 08, 2015, 11:35:44 PM »
I haven't mentioned my extreme butthurt on the percentage disparity between Randy and Pedro but WHAT THE eff IS THAT ABOUT??? 9% of voters didn't vote for pedro, I simply don't understand. Tom Glavine got a higher percentage of votes.



Longevity. Pedro's prime was the best among modern pitchers imo. Yes, better than Maddux, because of the DH.

You're extremely butthurt at the percentage disparity between Johnson and Martinez. I think it's about longevity and the things that come with that, like 300 wins and more exciting totals in things like strikeouts.

It's not a choice between Johnson and Martinez, you can vote for both. Johnson's longevity has nothing to do with 10% of the voters not voting for one of the greatest ever.

I never said it was a choice. I don't think I'm confused at your beef. But for simplicity's sake, please plainly state said beef be so I can hypothetically better understand it. Also, thank you for not calling out my misuse of penultimate. What a goof that was.
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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame Thread (assuming no predecessor to it)
« Reply #30 on: January 09, 2015, 06:13:48 AM »
Biggio over piazza is a joke.

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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame Thread (assuming no predecessor to it)
« Reply #31 on: January 09, 2015, 07:29:14 AM »
You guys know you can only vote for 10 per year right? That's why first ballot matters
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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame Thread (assuming no predecessor to it)
« Reply #32 on: January 09, 2015, 06:01:01 PM »
You guys know you can only vote for 10 per year right? That's why first ballot matters

A huge and hearty LOL at you if you think the first ballot people actually complete a full ballot. The people that full out a full ballot without Pedro and Randy aren't doing it because of the first ballot thing they are doing it because they know they will get in but they have to use their other votes to make up for baseball writers doing dumb crap like not voting for Edgar Martinez, and the "steroid guys." I don't vote players on my first ballot guy has no more than 3 people on it, probably Craig Biggio, Larry Walker, and Mike Mussina.

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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame Thread (assuming no predecessor to it)
« Reply #33 on: January 09, 2015, 06:15:43 PM »
Not voting Pedro or Randy is asinine, but people absolutely do pick a marginally deserving player, with only a year or two left on the ballot, over a slightly more qualified player in his first year. In that sense, being a first ballot hall of famer is a pretty big deal.
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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame Thread (assuming no predecessor to it)
« Reply #34 on: January 09, 2015, 07:41:55 PM »
Not voting Pedro or Randy is asinine, but people absolutely do pick a marginally deserving player, with only a year or two left on the ballot, over a slightly more qualified player in his first year. In that sense, being a first ballot hall of famer is a pretty big deal.

Great point. This is something that I was going to bring up, but wasn't sure on the specifics. It's like "Well, duh Pedro is a Hall-of-Famer, but I really like Lee Smith and I don't know if he's going to make it. I think I'll go ahead an leave Pedro off this time around so I can help Lee get in."
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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame Thread (assuming no predecessor to it)
« Reply #35 on: January 10, 2015, 10:59:46 AM »
Not voting Pedro or Randy is asinine, but people absolutely do pick a marginally deserving player, with only a year or two left on the ballot, over a slightly more qualified player in his first year. In that sense, being a first ballot hall of famer is a pretty big deal.

Great point. This is something that I was going to bring up, but wasn't sure on the specifics. It's like "Well, duh Pedro is a Hall-of-Famer, but I really like Lee Smith and I don't know if he's going to make it. I think I'll go ahead an leave Pedro off this time around so I can help Lee get in."

There's been only voter that has said he did this; Mike Berardino, St. Paul Pioneer Press.

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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame Thread (assuming no predecessor to it)
« Reply #36 on: January 10, 2015, 05:07:41 PM »
Bonds, McGwire, and Sosa are the faces of the steroid era. Hitting home runs is considered more of a steroid thing than pitching. It's not accurate, but it's the belief. I would vote all 4 in and I'm very anti-PEDs.

My idea is that Bonds and Clemons both had a HOF resume' before they started steroids so should be judged accordingly  :dunno:

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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame Thread (assuming no predecessor to it)
« Reply #37 on: January 13, 2015, 10:12:07 AM »
Rose was a no brainer for the HoF as a player but is being banned for what he did as a manager. His omission from Cooperstown is much more of a crime than Bonds and Clemens being left out.

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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame Thread (assuming no predecessor to it)
« Reply #38 on: January 13, 2015, 12:03:02 PM »
Rose was a no brainer for the HoF as a player but is being banned for what he did as a manager. His omission from Cooperstown is much more of a crime than Bonds and Clemens being left out.

Rose absolutely belongs in the Hall especially since he was able to rack up thousands of hits using crooked, floppy bats like the one below.  There was never any evidence found that he gambled as a player, only as a manager.  Put him in there and if it helps to ease anyone's butthurt just put a sentence or two about the gambling stuff on his plaque.


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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame Thread (assuming no predecessor to it)
« Reply #39 on: January 13, 2015, 01:47:05 PM »
time to compromise. put rose in, but don't let him have a hat on on his plaque. use this shot with his 3 stooges hair cut and say, "Pete Rose, can you believe he has the most hits ever? Neither can we."

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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame Thread (assuming no predecessor to it)
« Reply #40 on: January 13, 2015, 02:09:51 PM »
Was there ever a picture taken of Pete Rose where he looked good? It's crazy. He would have really benefited from living in the pre-camera era of baseball.

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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame Thread (assuming no predecessor to it)
« Reply #41 on: January 13, 2015, 07:22:50 PM »
Rose was a no brainer for the HoF as a player but is being banned for what he did as a manager. His omission from Cooperstown is much more of a crime than Bonds and Clemens being left out.

He belongs in but I don't know how you can determine that gambling as a manager isn't as bad as allegedly juicing as a player.

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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame Thread (assuming no predecessor to it)
« Reply #42 on: January 14, 2015, 05:52:47 PM »
Was there ever a picture taken of Pete Rose where he looked good? It's crazy. He would have really benefited from living in the pre-camera era of baseball.



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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame Thread (assuming no predecessor to it)
« Reply #43 on: January 14, 2015, 09:18:19 PM »
baseball writers are very weird. especially old ones.
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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame Thread (assuming no predecessor to it)
« Reply #44 on: January 15, 2015, 04:59:50 PM »

time to compromise. put rose in, but don't let him have a hat on on his plaque. use this shot with his 3 stooges hair cut and say, "Pete Rose, can you believe he has the most hits ever? Neither can we."


It's the Mr. Kim Tennal look. (If anybody knows him, they'll agree and laugh.)


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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame Thread (assuming no predecessor to it)
« Reply #45 on: January 15, 2015, 05:00:58 PM »


time to compromise. put rose in, but don't let him have a hat on on his plaque. use this shot with his 3 stooges hair cut and say, "Pete Rose, can you believe he has the most hits ever? Neither can we."


It's the Mr. Kim Tennal look. (If anybody knows him, they'll agree and laugh.)


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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame Thread (assuming no predecessor to it)
« Reply #46 on: January 20, 2015, 08:23:07 AM »

time to compromise. put rose in, but don't let him have a hat on on his plaque. use this shot with his 3 stooges hair cut and say, "Pete Rose, can you believe he has the most hits ever? Neither can we."


It's the Mr. Kim Tennal look. (If anybody knows him, they'll agree and laugh.)


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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame Thread (assuming no predecessor to it)
« Reply #47 on: January 28, 2015, 11:39:14 AM »
Clemens, Bonds, McGwire should all be in. Rose, never. Over my dead body.

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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame Thread (assuming no predecessor to it)
« Reply #48 on: January 07, 2016, 10:00:36 AM »
Pretty happy for Griffey and Piazza. Would've liked to see Bonds, McGwire, Clemens, Raines, Bagwell, and Edgar Martinez in there too.

Griffey was really the last true baseball cultural icon.

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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame Thread (assuming no predecessor to it)
« Reply #49 on: January 07, 2016, 10:05:10 AM »
I'm very happy for my guy, Mike.