Baseball Hall of Fame Thread (assuming no predecessor to it)

[Brock Landers]

I wonder what the thought process was for the 3 voters who left Griffey off their ballot.

[Asteriskhead]

I wonder what the thought process was for the 3 voters who left Griffey off their ballot.

Ken Rosenthal speculated that it was a strategic move. He believes the voters who left him off knew that he would get in, so they used the vote they would have cast for him on someone else.

[420seriouscat69]

Bonds and Clemens were HOF before they started juicing. They should really get in.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I don't have any issues with keeping known steroid users out of the HOF, as long as the voters are consistent about it.

[MakeItRain]

I wonder what the thought process was for the 3 voters who left Griffey off their ballot.

Ken Rosenthal speculated that it was a strategic move. He believes the voters who left him off knew that he would get in, so they used the vote they would have cast for him on someone else.

No way in hell. The idiots that left him off are the same idiots who think no one should be unanimous. If you aren't putting Griffey on your ballot, you aren't voting for ten guys.

Some of the ballots are available, roughly 30%, it was left up to the voters and of course the two cowards didn't release their ballots.
http://bbwaa.com/16-hof-ballots/

The biggest WTFs are David Eckstein getting two votes and the thing I botch about every year, the voters who are voting for Clemens but not Bonds.

[MakeItRain]

I don't have any issues with keeping known steroid users out of the HOF, as long as the voters are consistent about it.

What do you consider a known steroid user?

[EllRobersonisInnocent]

1. Pete Rose not being in HoF for gambling is a joke.

2. Pedro is overrated.

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[Spracne]

Griffey was my fave. As a kid, I bought a wooden bat and colored it black with a sharpie and put a strip of white medical tape around the middle so I could be like Griffey. Sure, it left a black mark on the baseball with every hit, and with every hit I'd have to touch up the bat with more sharpie, but it was def worth it. The sweetest swing ever? Yes, definitely.

[Asteriskhead]

I wonder what the thought process was for the 3 voters who left Griffey off their ballot.

Ken Rosenthal speculated that it was a strategic move. He believes the voters who left him off knew that he would get in, so they used the vote they would have cast for him on someone else.

No way in hell. The idiots that left him off are the same idiots who think no one should be unanimous. If you aren't putting Griffey on your ballot, you aren't voting for ten guys.

Some of the ballots are available, roughly 30%, it was left up to the voters and of course the two cowards didn't release their ballots.
http://bbwaa.com/16-hof-ballots/

The biggest WTFs are David Eckstein getting two votes and the thing I botch about every year, the voters who are voting for Clemens but not Bonds.

Without voters explaining their choices, there's no way to know. I was just passing along Ken's thoughts.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I don't have any issues with keeping known steroid users out of the HOF, as long as the voters are consistent about it.

What do you consider a known steroid user?

People who have tested positive, admitted to use, or have overwhelming evidence against them.

[TownieCat]

1. Pete Rose not being in HoF for gambling is a joke.

2. Pedro is overrated.

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1. Obviously

2. You are a dumbass. Pedro's seven year run from 1997-2003 was nothing short of remarkable, especially considering the juiceheads he was facing.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/martipe02.shtml#1997-2003-sum:pitching_standard

[yoga-like_abana]

I've hated Ken Griffey Jr. ever since what he did to the Minnesota Twins in the 1994 wildcard game

[MakeItRain]

I don't have any issues with keeping known steroid users out of the HOF, as long as the voters are consistent about it.

What do you consider a known steroid user?

People who have tested positive, admitted to use, or have overwhelming evidence against them.

Problematic

[MakeItRain]

1. Pete Rose not being in HoF for gambling is a joke.

2. Pedro is overrated.

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1. Obviously

2. You are a dumbass. Pedro's seven year run from 1997-2003 was nothing short of remarkable, especially considering the juiceheads he was facing.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/martipe02.shtml#1997-2003-sum:pitching_standard

1. What if I told you that several prominent hall of famers don't want him there? I heard an interview with Dennis Eckersley on Wednesday, he said he had lunch a couple of weeks ago with Johnny Bench and a few other HOFers and they absolutely do not want Pete in, Eck actually sounded angry about it. He said that players back then knew that it was something that you shouldn't have done, and "Pete knew better."
I'm okay with Pete being in, I actually remember him playing, but his contemporaries not wanting him in has a lot of sway with me.
2. townie, you know better

[TownieCat]

1. Pete Rose not being in HoF for gambling is a joke.

2. Pedro is overrated.

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1. Obviously

2. You are a dumbass. Pedro's seven year run from 1997-2003 was nothing short of remarkable, especially considering the juiceheads he was facing.
itching_standard]http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/martipe02.shtml#1997-2003-sumitching_standard

1. What if I told you that several prominent hall of famers don't want him there? I heard an interview with Dennis Eckersley on Wednesday, he said he had lunch a couple of weeks ago with Johnny Bench and a few other HOFers and they absolutely do not want Pete in, Eck actually sounded angry about it. He said that players back then knew that it was something that you shouldn't have done, and "Pete knew better."
I'm okay with Pete being in, I actually remember him playing, but his contemporaries not wanting him in has a lot of sway with me.
2. townie, you know better

I love Pedro. He's one of the 5 best pitchers in the last 30 years.

[MakeItRain]

I was referring to you responding to erii's obvious trolling

[Trim]

There's at least one, maybe a few good pics of Hit King on this blog.

[Cartierfor3]

The Pete Rose debate is stupid. He bet on baseball while a manager.

[TownieCat]

I was referring to you responding to erii's obvious trolling

Yeah, I should have let it slide.

[wazucat]

The day Shoeless Joe gets in is the day Pete should get in.

[The Big Train]

Griffey was my fave. As a kid, I bought a wooden bat and colored it black with a sharpie and put a strip of white medical tape around the middle so I could be like Griffey. Sure, it left a black mark on the baseball with every hit, and with every hit I'd have to touch up the bat with more sharpie, but it was def worth it. The sweetest swing ever? Yes, definitely.

Griffey was the absolute greatest.  His swing was pure sex and his HR Derby appearances were the stuff of legend.  His video game was also one of my favorite growing up

[Brock Landers]

Class of 2017 results

http://www.baseball-reference.com/awards/hof_2017.shtml


1   Jeff Bagwell   7th   381   86.2%   
2   Tim Raines   10th   380   86.0%   
3   Ivan Rodriguez   1st   336   76.0%
   
4   Trevor Hoffman   2nd   327   74.0%   
5   Vladimir Guerrero   1st   317   71.7%

Hoffman and my boy Vladdy Daddy just missing out, I'm pretty sure they'll be in next year.  Interestingly, Clemens and Bonds are sitting at 54.1% and 53.8% respectively and have come up a decent amount since 2015 when they were at 37.5% and 36.8%

[Cartierfor3]

Glad for those 3, however I don't get why Bagwell gets a pass and McGwire/Bonds don't. Seems hypocritical by the BBWA. Hope Edgar Martinez gets in next year.

[yoga-like_abana]

Vlads my fave on that list of 5.. His outfield assists were amazeballs to watch. Plus he also knocked Lasorda on his ass with his stray bat

[Cartierfor3]

Vlads my fave on that list of 5.. His outfield assists were amazeballs to watch. Plus he also knocked Lasorda on his ass with his stray bat

never have I seen a better bad ball hitter. he swung at EVERYTHING