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Re: Fostering division; OSU ADV
« Reply #100 on: January 04, 2015, 07:10:26 PM »
not trying to give him an excuse- I just really think he's a bumbling rough ridin' idiot

I've never really understood how he became a high-level coach based on his personality. It almost seems like he doesn't really want to and is just happy to be here with no idea how it happened.

I've gotten this impression as well. I always kind of assumed (hoped) it was his "media face" and he was more of a coach in practice, but that's seems unlikely.
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Re: Fostering division; OSU ADV
« Reply #101 on: January 04, 2015, 07:16:32 PM »
I also don't think defense is no longer the problem, has turned around in the process of the last 2.5 games. Scoring is becoming a huge issue and is compounded with youthful point guard play.

We are a Gip injury away from a nightmare situation.

Oh defense is still a huge problem, but not having great (or even good) offense is a big problem. We had a great offensive game against aTm (and a terrible Savannah State team), but other than that our offense has been below 1.00 points per possession for the last month. TOs still are the biggest issue, but we aren't shooting it well either. If we continue to allow teams to shoot 51% or better then yeah, this is a serious recipe for disaster.

And idea how much of our problems on defense are related to turnovers on offense leading to easy transition baskets? It seems like lately when we're in the half court, we're playing solid defense. Also, our transition defense seems to suck.
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Re: Fostering division; OSU ADV
« Reply #102 on: January 04, 2015, 07:50:35 PM »
And idea how much of our problems on defense are related to turnovers on offense leading to easy transition baskets? It seems like lately when we're in the half court, we're playing solid defense. Also, our transition defense seems to suck.

Its sort of a tough stat to track. You have bottom of the boxscore stats like points off turnovers and fast break points. Right now on average the Cats are outscored 16.4-14.9 on points off turnovers and 6.9 to 7.8 on fast break points.

Then you have hoop-math.com which tracks shot types, when shots occur, etc. Here is our defensive chart so far this year.


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Re: Fostering division; OSU ADV
« Reply #103 on: January 04, 2015, 09:11:49 PM »

I'm sure John Currie will do better next time!

I think Currie's choice will be made for him.

Underwood is going to have massive donor support, and he's not going to command a big salary.  Which we will require because we're going to be carrying around oscar's contract around like an albatross for the next few years.

You keep saying that, but I don't think it is true.  I'm pretty sure Dax posted the contract and it said at most $2.5 million is owed and we can subtract any coaching earnings he makes from someone else.  Currie negotiated a really good buyout as I understand it.  Which I may not understand it at all.

I didn't see that.  I'll have to go find the .pdf.

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Re: Fostering division; OSU ADV
« Reply #104 on: January 04, 2015, 09:35:02 PM »
The "my biggest weakness is I care too much" line is amazing

My favorite is where he recounts the convo he allegedly had with his players.  Seems legit.

It's the old white man version of the Jameis Winston skrong speech.

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Re: Fostering division; OSU ADV
« Reply #105 on: January 04, 2015, 09:53:21 PM »
I also don't think defense is no longer the problem, has turned around in the process of the last 2.5 games. Scoring is becoming a huge issue and is compounded with youthful point guard play.

We have played poor to average offenses the last three games. I mean it was Texas Southern, Georgia, and OSU. Only Tech and OU have less efficient offenses of or remaining opponents.
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Re: Fostering division; OSU ADV
« Reply #106 on: January 04, 2015, 09:54:48 PM »
Man I can see Undies implementing that pinwheel offense with a group of DITR's that would make Snyder jelly jelly right now. 

Bring on those Kansas drive way ballers, and under recruited Texas kids!!  EMAW Everybody! 


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Re: Fostering division; OSU ADV
« Reply #107 on: January 05, 2015, 01:25:59 AM »

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"I think a couple of my biggest weaknesses as a person, as a coach, is that at times I speak with a lot of honesty, and I also care too much,"


currie melted when he dropped this classic maneuver in the job interview

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Re: Fostering division; OSU ADV
« Reply #108 on: January 05, 2015, 08:13:47 AM »


We are a Gip injury away from a nightmare situation.
You don't think we are already in a nightmare situation?


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Re: Fostering division; OSU ADV
« Reply #109 on: January 05, 2015, 01:02:06 PM »

I'm sure John Currie will do better next time!

I think Currie's choice will be made for him.

Underwood is going to have massive donor support, and he's not going to command a big salary.  Which we will require because we're going to be carrying around oscar's contract around like an albatross for the next few years.

You keep saying that, but I don't think it is true.  I'm pretty sure Dax posted the contract and it said at most $2.5 million is owed and we can subtract any coaching earnings he makes from someone else.  Currie negotiated a really good buyout as I understand it.  Which I may not understand it at all.

I didn't see that.  I'll have to go find the .pdf.

KK and dax were absolutely right.  I found the original .pdf.  We'd only owe oscar $2.5 million to be paid in 30 day increments over a 24 month period.  So, theoretically, we'd be on the hook for $1.25m a year for two years.

Thanks for pointing that out.

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Re: Fostering division; OSU ADV
« Reply #110 on: January 05, 2015, 01:18:06 PM »
And idea how much of our problems on defense are related to turnovers on offense leading to easy transition baskets? It seems like lately when we're in the half court, we're playing solid defense. Also, our transition defense seems to suck.

Its sort of a tough stat to track. You have bottom of the boxscore stats like points off turnovers and fast break points. Right now on average the Cats are outscored 16.4-14.9 on points off turnovers and 6.9 to 7.8 on fast break points.

Then you have hoop-math.com which tracks shot types, when shots occur, etc. Here is our defensive chart so far this year.



Looks like the Cats give up way too many open threes in the half court. Terrible recipe for success in the modern game.

If there was a gif of nicname thwarting the attempted-flag-taker and then gesturing him to suck it, followed by motioning for all of Hilton Shelter to boo him louder, it'd be better than that auburn gif.

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Re: Fostering division; OSU ADV
« Reply #111 on: January 05, 2015, 01:19:59 PM »

I'm sure John Currie will do better next time!

I think Currie's choice will be made for him.

Underwood is going to have massive donor support, and he's not going to command a big salary.  Which we will require because we're going to be carrying around oscar's contract around like an albatross for the next few years.

You keep saying that, but I don't think it is true.  I'm pretty sure Dax posted the contract and it said at most $2.5 million is owed and we can subtract any coaching earnings he makes from someone else.  Currie negotiated a really good buyout as I understand it.  Which I may not understand it at all.

I didn't see that.  I'll have to go find the .pdf.

KK and dax were absolutely right.  I found the original .pdf.  We'd only owe oscar $2.5 million to be paid in 30 day increments over a 24 month period.  So, theoretically, we'd be on the hook for $1.25m a year for two years.

Thanks for pointing that out.

It's a very good buyout. I don't want to use too much conjecture, but perhaps Currie knew that oscar was a gamble and safeguarded against what we're seeing right now.
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Re: Fostering division; OSU ADV
« Reply #112 on: January 05, 2015, 01:48:10 PM »
Currie had enormous leverage, I am glad he used it to negotiate the buyout, which is very favorable to us.

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Re: Fostering division; OSU ADV
« Reply #113 on: January 05, 2015, 05:24:18 PM »
Story had Asprella (?) was nearly thrown from the gym.

Frank threw him out of the gym and threw a ball rack at him.  :Wha:

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Re: Fostering division; OSU ADV
« Reply #114 on: January 05, 2015, 06:04:40 PM »
Story had Asprella (?) was nearly thrown from the gym.

Frank threw him out of the gym and threw a ball rack at him.  :Wha:
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Re: Fostering division; OSU ADV
« Reply #115 on: January 05, 2015, 06:37:07 PM »
"Man ... I miss Frank"

Yeah, the image of Frank throwing a ball rack at somebody is both terrifying and amazing.  I made this to commemorate the departure of Asprilla.


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Re: Fostering division; OSU ADV
« Reply #116 on: January 05, 2015, 06:48:26 PM »
sweet jorts, frank. Never mind, I don't miss him.

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Re: Fostering division; OSU ADV
« Reply #117 on: January 05, 2015, 07:44:05 PM »
jordan 3's though


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Re: Fostering division; OSU ADV
« Reply #118 on: January 06, 2015, 07:09:35 PM »
sweet jorts, frank. Never mind, I don't miss him.

does anything really matter when you're winning?

I can answer that question with a photographic example.



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Re: Fostering division; OSU ADV
« Reply #119 on: January 06, 2015, 09:15:47 PM »

not trying to give him an excuse- I just really think he's a bumbling rough ridin' idiot

I totally agree.  I remember formulating this opinion when he took over at Illinois, and reading about his fake funeral for Bill Self and the ridiculous comments he made during that time about Self.   So, the day he was announced as our head coach I was very angry.  I want him to just go away.

Yeah. It would've been one thing if Currie had gotten someone in the mold of Ben Howland. But the signs were on the wall with oscar from long before ADJC's Exclusive Dallas Adventure Time.

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Re: Fostering division; OSU ADV
« Reply #120 on: January 06, 2015, 10:33:12 PM »
Cargo Jorts?????!!!!??!?!?! :horrorsurprise:
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Re: Fostering division; OSU ADV
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Re: Fostering division; OSU ADV
« Reply #122 on: January 06, 2015, 11:14:36 PM »
Hey guys, mocat had the last word on Frank's fashion

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Re: Fostering division; OSU ADV
« Reply #123 on: January 07, 2015, 11:25:14 AM »
Cargo Jorts?????!!!!??!?!?! :horrorsurprise:
those shorts are so bad they are great, like how multiplying 2 negatives equals a positive

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Re: Fostering division; OSU ADV
« Reply #124 on: January 07, 2015, 11:27:48 AM »
Frank can wear whatever he wants and I would be fine with it because he wins games.