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Re: Better Late Than Never "Serial" Thread (Spoilers?)
« Reply #50 on: November 21, 2014, 01:07:26 AM »
I still don't believe Adnan did it.

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Re: Better Late Than Never "Serial" Thread (Spoilers?)
« Reply #51 on: November 21, 2014, 08:51:41 AM »
The latest epi sure helps to reinforce that.

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Re: Better Late Than Never "Serial" Thread (Spoilers?)
« Reply #52 on: November 21, 2014, 09:21:29 AM »
There is a difference between believing the state's theory is wrong and if you were on the jury you would've found him not guilty and believing that Adnan is innocent/not guilty.

I am probably in the first camp, probably not yet in the second camp.
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Re: Better Late Than Never "Serial" Thread (Spoilers?)
« Reply #53 on: November 21, 2014, 09:30:48 AM »
I am def in camp #1.  With the "facts" of the case, so far, I don't know if I could ever be fully in camp #2 unless something immense is reported in an upcoming episode.

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Re: Better Late Than Never "Serial" Thread (Spoilers?)
« Reply #54 on: November 21, 2014, 09:32:10 AM »
the most impressive part is that the jury only took like 3 hours to reach a verdict, including lunch...

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Re: Better Late Than Never "Serial" Thread (Spoilers?)
« Reply #55 on: November 21, 2014, 09:42:07 AM »
the most impressive part is that the jury only took like 3 hours to reach a verdict, including lunch...

yup.  there was a mountain of stuff to go through and they convicted him for life, in a 2 hour span.

i'm much happier having him walk based upon what's been presented, regardless of his innocence or guilt


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Re: Better Late Than Never "Serial" Thread (Spoilers?)
« Reply #56 on: November 21, 2014, 10:08:43 AM »
There is a difference between believing the state's theory is wrong and if you were on the jury you would've found him not guilty and believing that Adnan is innocent/not guilty.

I am probably in the first camp, probably not yet in the second camp.

Maybe I said it in this thread already, but I can't buy the motive.

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Re: Better Late Than Never "Serial" Thread (Spoilers?)
« Reply #57 on: November 21, 2014, 10:11:47 AM »
the motive is really terrible

adnan was an honor student, an athlete, good with his family, well liked.  his profile doesn't lend itself to a jealousy killing of an ex-gf, he had moved on and seems likable enough to find whatever poontang he wanted


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Re: Better Late Than Never "Serial" Thread (Spoilers?)
« Reply #58 on: November 21, 2014, 10:15:22 AM »
Also, he and Hae broke up months before this happened.  Hae was with Don for a long time before this happened.  The Ex Bf thing doesn't make sense at all.

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Re: Better Late Than Never "Serial" Thread (Spoilers?)
« Reply #59 on: November 21, 2014, 11:45:02 AM »
Do you all have all the info now the jury had or is this person selectively feeding you info?  If you're being manipulated seems really rough ridin' dumb to judge the jurors. 

Also privileged and/or successful people do really mumped up crap occassionally like murder or rape or molest.  There has to be a first time. 
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Re: Better Late Than Never "Serial" Thread (Spoilers?)
« Reply #60 on: November 21, 2014, 12:20:03 PM »
Do you all have all the info now the jury had or is this person selectively feeding you info? If you're being manipulated seems really rough ridin' dumb to judge the jurors. 

Also privileged and/or successful people do really mumped up crap occassionally like murder or rape or molest.  There has to be a first time.

Well none of us were jurors so, yeah some things have been left out considering there were two trials.  That said, she interviewed a juror and that person sounded like an idiot, just like most people are idiots.  She said one of the major factors was that the jury was shocked that Adnan didn't testify, didn't get up there and defend himself to prove that what the prosecution was saying was wrong.  So everyone that is a member of society and knows anything about the criminal justice system would not be surprised at all about most of the details of the case. 
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Re: Better Late Than Never "Serial" Thread (Spoilers?)
« Reply #61 on: November 21, 2014, 01:25:56 PM »
From reading this thread it just seems like this broad is leading people around by the nose.  I'm very comfortable agreeing that several members if not the entirety of the jury were imbeciles. That's just how it is.  Doesn't mean they got it wrong though. 
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Re: Better Late Than Never "Serial" Thread (Spoilers?)
« Reply #62 on: November 21, 2014, 01:49:56 PM »
this thread isn't about whether or not the jurors got it wrong


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Re: Better Late Than Never "Serial" Thread (Spoilers?)
« Reply #63 on: November 21, 2014, 01:50:59 PM »
From reading this thread it just seems like this broad is leading people around by the nose.  I'm very comfortable agreeing that several members if not the entirety of the jury were imbeciles. That's just how it is.  Doesn't mean they got it wrong though.

We are listening to a podcast, of course we are evaluating the facts through the filter of the narrator.  Just like the jurors didn't gumshoe the case and argue it to themselves.  Good grief.
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Re: Better Late Than Never "Serial" Thread (Spoilers?)
« Reply #64 on: November 21, 2014, 01:53:24 PM »
Hold on guys, I think Mr. Bread is a real live attorney at law.  Let's see if he files an motions for us to cease and desist listening to this stupid podcast.
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Re: Better Late Than Never "Serial" Thread (Spoilers?)
« Reply #65 on: November 21, 2014, 02:18:35 PM »
ya love this johnny come lately coming into our thread and flexing his jd deltoids


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Re: Better Late Than Never "Serial" Thread (Spoilers?)
« Reply #66 on: November 21, 2014, 02:20:49 PM »
Sounds like some feelings have been hurt by questioning the accuracy of conclusions drawn from limited information. 
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Re: Better Late Than Never "Serial" Thread (Spoilers?)
« Reply #67 on: November 21, 2014, 02:21:08 PM »
Just think of me as a mirror of truth.  Sometimes when you hold me up to your own faces you don't like what you see. 
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Re: Better Late Than Never "Serial" Thread (Spoilers?)
« Reply #68 on: November 21, 2014, 02:23:40 PM »
From reading this thread it just seems like this broad is leading people around by the nose.  I'm very comfortable agreeing that several members if not the entirety of the jury were imbeciles. That's just how it is.  Doesn't mean they got it wrong though.

We are listening to a podcast, of course we are evaluating the facts through the filter of the narrator.  Just like the jurors didn't gumshoe the case and argue it to themselves.  Good grief.

Good grief, you.  I'm just saying that perhaps that if you knew what they knew and had had it presented to you as they had you might entirely agree with them.  #littleglasshousesforyouandme
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Re: Better Late Than Never "Serial" Thread (Spoilers?)
« Reply #69 on: November 21, 2014, 02:24:16 PM »
I hate to see kk and clams get used is all.  #don'tdonate
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Re: Better Late Than Never "Serial" Thread (Spoilers?)
« Reply #70 on: November 21, 2014, 02:28:36 PM »
A weird thing is that I believe as a rule, you aren't supposed to take into account that he didn't testify, but that juror made it sound like they convicted him because he didn't take the stand to defend himself.

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Re: Better Late Than Never "Serial" Thread (Spoilers?)
« Reply #71 on: November 21, 2014, 02:29:22 PM »
The donation isn't to fight this guy's appeal.  It is to be entertained by a second season of an awesome podcast, which will have nothing to do with this case.


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Re: Better Late Than Never "Serial" Thread (Spoilers?)
« Reply #72 on: November 21, 2014, 02:38:44 PM »
A weird thing is that I believe as a rule, you aren't supposed to take into account that he didn't testify, but that juror made it sound like they convicted him because he didn't take the stand to defend himself.

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They unequivocally are not supposed to consider it, but as a general rule many absolutely do.  They're human beings for eff's sake.  Even if only unconsciously they are judging the crap out of that guy for not telling them his side of it. 
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Re: Better Late Than Never "Serial" Thread (Spoilers?)
« Reply #73 on: November 21, 2014, 02:39:37 PM »
The donation isn't to fight this guy's appeal.  It is to be entertained by a second season of an awesome podcast, which will have nothing to do with this case.

I know.  You should give her a bunch of your money. 
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Re: Better Late Than Never "Serial" Thread (Spoilers?)
« Reply #74 on: November 21, 2014, 02:40:04 PM »
Yeah, I get that, but it's weird to be aware of and admit that it was a big factor in the decision.

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