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2013: Pick up at LSU, where we scored 21 (8) and loss. 30 (46), 62, 45, 45, 35, 55, 43 (32), 34 (1), 59, 31 (2). Those numbers in parentheses represent the final rank of the total defense for those teams. KSU finished 45th.
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Quote from: sak on September 15, 2014, 01:42:03 PMQuote from: Bookie Pimp on September 15, 2014, 01:18:08 PMQuote from: damonismyhero on September 15, 2014, 01:13:23 PMJust to add fuel to the fire here, Auburn is 0-for its last 4 road OOC games. The last win was in 1997 at Virginia.Careful, brotha... You'll have your boy sak curled up in the fetal position if he sees this. His need for our validation is legendary.i don't really care. what i see is a bunch of delusional kansas state fans who think they have the horses to run with auburn.you are the 8th best team on our schedule. maybe. we are no worse than the 2nd best team on your schedule as you will soon find out.GTFOH... Did you not see the part of the thread title that says "(No Bullshit)"
Quote from: Bookie Pimp on September 15, 2014, 01:18:08 PMQuote from: damonismyhero on September 15, 2014, 01:13:23 PMJust to add fuel to the fire here, Auburn is 0-for its last 4 road OOC games. The last win was in 1997 at Virginia.Careful, brotha... You'll have your boy sak curled up in the fetal position if he sees this. His need for our validation is legendary.i don't really care. what i see is a bunch of delusional kansas state fans who think they have the horses to run with auburn.you are the 8th best team on our schedule. maybe. we are no worse than the 2nd best team on your schedule as you will soon find out.
Quote from: damonismyhero on September 15, 2014, 01:13:23 PMJust to add fuel to the fire here, Auburn is 0-for its last 4 road OOC games. The last win was in 1997 at Virginia.Careful, brotha... You'll have your boy sak curled up in the fetal position if he sees this. His need for our validation is legendary.
Just to add fuel to the fire here, Auburn is 0-for its last 4 road OOC games. The last win was in 1997 at Virginia.
Quote from: Bookie Pimp on September 15, 2014, 01:34:27 PMA quick search of http://stats.ncaa.org/rankings?sport_code=MFB&division=11 shows that K-State finished 26th in '13. (23rd so far this year)It will be interesting whether HCBS decides he wants this game played in the 30's or 50's. Either way, our offense vs your defense is a bigger mismatch than your offense vs our defense.http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/1042/p1 is what I looked at. 35th this season (Auburn is 46th http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/1042/p1)Hrmmm... maybe I'm looking at 2012 stats, I'll dig in further soon.
A quick search of http://stats.ncaa.org/rankings?sport_code=MFB&division=11 shows that K-State finished 26th in '13. (23rd so far this year)It will be interesting whether HCBS decides he wants this game played in the 30's or 50's. Either way, our offense vs your defense is a bigger mismatch than your offense vs our defense.
Quote from: Bookie Pimp on September 15, 2014, 01:47:54 PMQuote from: sak on September 15, 2014, 01:42:03 PMQuote from: Bookie Pimp on September 15, 2014, 01:18:08 PMQuote from: damonismyhero on September 15, 2014, 01:13:23 PMJust to add fuel to the fire here, Auburn is 0-for its last 4 road OOC games. The last win was in 1997 at Virginia.Careful, brotha... You'll have your boy sak curled up in the fetal position if he sees this. His need for our validation is legendary.i don't really care. what i see is a bunch of delusional kansas state fans who think they have the horses to run with auburn.you are the 8th best team on our schedule. maybe. we are no worse than the 2nd best team on your schedule as you will soon find out.GTFOH... Did you not see the part of the thread title that says "(No Bullshit)" Alabama, Texas A&M, LSU, Ole Miss, Georgia, South Carolina, and Missouri would all be favored against Kansas State on a neutral field.If Auburn ends up reaching the national title game, this could be the 11th best team Auburn faces!
Quote from: The_Wippuh on September 15, 2014, 01:39:44 PMQuote from: Bookie Pimp on September 15, 2014, 01:34:27 PMA quick search of http://stats.ncaa.org/rankings?sport_code=MFB&division=11 shows that K-State finished 26th in '13. (23rd so far this year)It will be interesting whether HCBS decides he wants this game played in the 30's or 50's. Either way, our offense vs your defense is a bigger mismatch than your offense vs our defense.http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/1042/p1 is what I looked at. 35th this season (Auburn is 46th http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/1042/p1)Hrmmm... maybe I'm looking at 2012 stats, I'll dig in further soon.Its much more beneficial to look at both yards per play and points per play for defensive strength because you get a much more accurate look based on the pace that teams like to play at, especially when comparing a team that likes to play slower like K-State.http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/stat/opponent-points-per-playhttp://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/stat/opponent-yards-per-play
Quote from: The_Wippuh on September 15, 2014, 01:18:21 PM2013: Pick up at LSU, where we scored 21 (8) and loss. 30 (46), 62, 45, 45, 35, 55, 43 (32), 34 (1), 59, 31 (2). Those numbers in parentheses represent the final rank of the total defense for those teams. KSU finished 45th.Total Defense isn't a stat that K-State cares about. The goal of a K-State defense is to make the team run as many plays as possible to get those yards, thus increasing the odds of a mistake. If f K-State can force a team to run 15 plays it is more likely that team will turn it over, have a drive killing penalty, take a sack, or some other critical mistake than score a touchdown. Keep as many plays to 5 yards or less and force a team to string them together. Basically bend but don't break.
Quote from: ChiCat on September 15, 2014, 01:48:46 PMQuote from: The_Wippuh on September 15, 2014, 01:18:21 PM2013: Pick up at LSU, where we scored 21 (8) and loss. 30 (46), 62, 45, 45, 35, 55, 43 (32), 34 (1), 59, 31 (2). Those numbers in parentheses represent the final rank of the total defense for those teams. KSU finished 45th.Total Defense isn't a stat that K-State cares about. The goal of a K-State defense is to make the team run as many plays as possible to get those yards, thus increasing the odds of a mistake. If f K-State can force a team to run 15 plays it is more likely that team will turn it over, have a drive killing penalty, take a sack, or some other critical mistake than score a touchdown. Keep as many plays to 5 yards or less and force a team to string them together. Basically bend but don't break.I think that's the only way to play Auburn, the only problem is that it requires incredible discipline. How big are your DBs? Serious question.
I even like points/possession better.
Quote from: #1AUFAN on September 15, 2014, 01:57:59 PMQuote from: ChiCat on September 15, 2014, 01:48:46 PMQuote from: The_Wippuh on September 15, 2014, 01:18:21 PM2013: Pick up at LSU, where we scored 21 (8) and loss. 30 (46), 62, 45, 45, 35, 55, 43 (32), 34 (1), 59, 31 (2). Those numbers in parentheses represent the final rank of the total defense for those teams. KSU finished 45th.Total Defense isn't a stat that K-State cares about. The goal of a K-State defense is to make the team run as many plays as possible to get those yards, thus increasing the odds of a mistake. If f K-State can force a team to run 15 plays it is more likely that team will turn it over, have a drive killing penalty, take a sack, or some other critical mistake than score a touchdown. Keep as many plays to 5 yards or less and force a team to string them together. Basically bend but don't break.I think that's the only way to play Auburn, the only problem is that it requires incredible discipline. How big are your DBs? Serious question.not very
For Auburn to be successful defensively, they are going to have to stay home. Snyder runs a lot of misdirection. They are also going to have to make solo tackles. Based upon what I have seen, I think Auburn is going to have a lot of trouble.
Quote from: Chingon on September 15, 2014, 01:59:43 PMQuote from: #1AUFAN on September 15, 2014, 01:57:59 PMQuote from: ChiCat on September 15, 2014, 01:48:46 PMQuote from: The_Wippuh on September 15, 2014, 01:18:21 PM2013: Pick up at LSU, where we scored 21 (8) and loss. 30 (46), 62, 45, 45, 35, 55, 43 (32), 34 (1), 59, 31 (2). Those numbers in parentheses represent the final rank of the total defense for those teams. KSU finished 45th.Total Defense isn't a stat that K-State cares about. The goal of a K-State defense is to make the team run as many plays as possible to get those yards, thus increasing the odds of a mistake. If f K-State can force a team to run 15 plays it is more likely that team will turn it over, have a drive killing penalty, take a sack, or some other critical mistake than score a touchdown. Keep as many plays to 5 yards or less and force a team to string them together. Basically bend but don't break.I think that's the only way to play Auburn, the only problem is that it requires incredible discipline. How big are your DBs? Serious question.not veryBigger than in the past... McDaniel is 6'1" 205Burns is 5'11" 195Evans is 6' 190Barnett is 6'1" 190It's not like we have Rat Garrett, etc. out there anymore. (although that kid was a PLAYER)
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on September 15, 2014, 01:41:26 PMFor Auburn to be successful defensively, they are going to have to stay home. Snyder runs a lot of misdirection. They are also going to have to make solo tackles. Based upon what I have seen, I think Auburn is going to have a lot of trouble.It's very similar to what Auburn does. The formations won't be the same, but Malzahn runs a lot of Snyder's offensive concepts. Not as much in a wildcat package but in the form of wing t and veer principles. Both of these offense are built from the same core. Both teams should be somewhat familiar with the other's offense.
Good. That would be ideal. Marshall isn't accurate enough to throw it that much when Snyder chooses to limit your possessions.Plus, Coates isn't 100% with that bad knee IF he goes at all. Our corners and Evans/Barnett are good tacklers also.
Quote from: FadeMeAU on September 15, 2014, 02:02:03 PMQuote from: Rage Against the McKee on September 15, 2014, 01:41:26 PMFor Auburn to be successful defensively, they are going to have to stay home. Snyder runs a lot of misdirection. They are also going to have to make solo tackles. Based upon what I have seen, I think Auburn is going to have a lot of trouble.It's very similar to what Auburn does. The formations won't be the same, but Malzahn runs a lot of Snyder's offensive concepts. Not as much in a wildcat package but in the form of wing t and veer principles. Both of these offense are built from the same core. Both teams should be somewhat familiar with the other's offense.Yeah, the way Truman has played at LB this season, K-State could have similar problems. I expect both offenses to be pretty efficient. I think the crowd noise will help us win the penalty battle, though, which could be the difference.
Quote from: Bookie Pimp on September 15, 2014, 02:08:57 PMGood. That would be ideal. Marshall isn't accurate enough to throw it that much when Snyder chooses to limit your possessions.Plus, Coates isn't 100% with that bad knee IF he goes at all. Our corners and Evans/Barnett are good tacklers also.I was told the Coates injury wasn't serious at all, and he sat as a precaution against SJSt. He's supposed to be 100%. But even having him at 80% is big for the offense and the passing game. He's still a threat you have to account for.
Quote from: FadeMeAU on September 15, 2014, 02:02:03 PMQuote from: Rage Against the McKee on September 15, 2014, 01:41:26 PMFor Auburn to be successful defensively, they are going to have to stay home. Snyder runs a lot of misdirection. They are also going to have to make solo tackles. Based upon what I have seen, I think Auburn is going to have a lot of trouble.It's very similar to what Auburn does. The formations won't be the same, but Malzahn runs a lot of Snyder's offensive concepts. Not as much in a wildcat package but in the form of wing t and veer principles. Both of these offense are built from the same core. Both teams should be somewhat familiar with the other's offense. True. Based on watching you guys a little bit, I think Snyder runs more power concepts (pulling OL) and Gus uses more option/veer concepts. Snyder probably uses a bit more complex passing attack. Snyder uses a bunch of personnel packages and formations, but Gus uses a ton of formations (including unbalanced, covered receivers, etc.) with a lot more motion. Its going to be a lot of fun to watch that in person.
Quote from: FadeMeAU on September 15, 2014, 02:12:26 PMQuote from: Bookie Pimp on September 15, 2014, 02:08:57 PMGood. That would be ideal. Marshall isn't accurate enough to throw it that much when Snyder chooses to limit your possessions.Plus, Coates isn't 100% with that bad knee IF he goes at all. Our corners and Evans/Barnett are good tacklers also.I was told the Coates injury wasn't serious at all, and he sat as a precaution against SJSt. He's supposed to be 100%. But even having him at 80% is big for the offense and the passing game. He's still a threat you have to account for.Thank you... I was actually wondering what the truth was on all of this.
Quote from: Bookie Pimp on September 15, 2014, 02:04:15 PMQuote from: Chingon on September 15, 2014, 01:59:43 PMQuote from: #1AUFAN on September 15, 2014, 01:57:59 PMQuote from: ChiCat on September 15, 2014, 01:48:46 PMQuote from: The_Wippuh on September 15, 2014, 01:18:21 PM2013: Pick up at LSU, where we scored 21 (8) and loss. 30 (46), 62, 45, 45, 35, 55, 43 (32), 34 (1), 59, 31 (2). Those numbers in parentheses represent the final rank of the total defense for those teams. KSU finished 45th.Total Defense isn't a stat that K-State cares about. The goal of a K-State defense is to make the team run as many plays as possible to get those yards, thus increasing the odds of a mistake. If f K-State can force a team to run 15 plays it is more likely that team will turn it over, have a drive killing penalty, take a sack, or some other critical mistake than score a touchdown. Keep as many plays to 5 yards or less and force a team to string them together. Basically bend but don't break.I think that's the only way to play Auburn, the only problem is that it requires incredible discipline. How big are your DBs? Serious question.not veryBigger than in the past... McDaniel is 6'1" 205Burns is 5'11" 195Evans is 6' 190Barnett is 6'1" 190It's not like we have Rat Garrett, etc. out there anymore. (although that kid was a PLAYER)only reason I asked is because Auburn is going to throw a lot of quick passes and WR screens on soft coverage. We have some big receivers.