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Quote from: michigancat on August 14, 2014, 10:23:38 AMhttp://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/ard0309st.pdfmore whites get killed than blacks, but not by muchIf I'm reading those charts right, there were 98M total arrest, 70% white (68.6M) and 28% black (27.4M). 4813 arrest related deaths, 61.5% by homocide or 2960. 42% of all arrest related deaths were whites and 32% black. Assuming the homocide deaths were proportionately distributed (significant assumption), there were 1243 arrested whites that died by homicide and 1540 blacks.If I did all the math right:Out of every 1M whites that were arrested, 1.8 died by homocide.Out of every 1M blacks that were arrested, 5.6 died by homocide.
http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/ard0309st.pdfmore whites get killed than blacks, but not by much
Quote from: Daddy Claxton on August 14, 2014, 11:16:15 AMQuote from: michigancat on August 14, 2014, 10:23:38 AMhttp://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/ard0309st.pdfmore whites get killed than blacks, but not by muchIf I'm reading those charts right, there were 98M total arrest, 70% white (68.6M) and 28% black (27.4M). 4813 arrest related deaths, 61.5% by homocide or 2960. 42% of all arrest related deaths were whites and 32% black. Assuming the homocide deaths were proportionately distributed (significant assumption), there were 1243 arrested whites that died by homicide and 1540 blacks.If I did all the math right:Out of every 1M whites that were arrested, 1.8 died by homocide.Out of every 1M blacks that were arrested, 5.6 died by homocide. No, this isn't right. According to their data, 2,026 whites were killed by homicides during arrests and 1,529 blacks.However, participation in the survey was voluntary - if I'm reading right, there isn't a requirement for law enforcement agencies to report arrest related deaths to some sort of national database.
Two LOLable reports from Ferguson.1. This afternoon Ryan Reilly a white reporter from the Huffington Post and Wesley Lowery a black reporter from the Washington Post were working in a McDonald's when Ferguson cops came in riot gear and told them to leave because the area was unsafe. They apparently didn't leave fast enough for the cops so they were attested. Reilly said his head was slammed on the car after his arrest and Lowery said he was told he was resisting and slammed against the soda machine. They were taken to jail. A reporter for the LA Times called the chief of police for Ferguson and told him that the officers just arrested two journalists and the guys were quickly released. Reilly was given an arrest report number but was told no report would be filed.2. Elizabeth Matthews of KSDK out of St. Louis reported that right before their 10PM news the Ferguson cops shot a tear gas canister at an Al Jeezera TV truck. Her and the two cameramen heard the sound and left their truck to see what was happening, at that point she saw cops in riot gear guns drawn walking towards them. She said put her hands up but one of their tripods was hit with a fired bean bag. She said there were no protesters at their location and the riot cops yelled at them that this is for their own protection.I thought there were only like 60 cops in Ferguson, are these just the same dozen bad person cops rough ridin' with everyone? If the whole force is like this perhaps the chief should be charged as well when the cop who started this gets his federal charges.
Quote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 14, 2014, 11:06:33 AMWait - were the ranchers looting and burning stores? I did not hear about that.I think the Ferguson police need to try their best to not harass, detain, or harm the peaceful protestors - but I suspect that's sometimes easier said than done when the vandals and looters are intermixed among the protests. If I were a protestor, I'd probably go down to city hall and protest there - not in the middle of the violence. Seems like a bad to place to be if I don't want to get tear gassed.They were pointing loaded weapons at law enforcement officers.
Wait - were the ranchers looting and burning stores? I did not hear about that.I think the Ferguson police need to try their best to not harass, detain, or harm the peaceful protestors - but I suspect that's sometimes easier said than done when the vandals and looters are intermixed among the protests. If I were a protestor, I'd probably go down to city hall and protest there - not in the middle of the violence. Seems like a bad to place to be if I don't want to get tear gassed.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning. They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.
men comprised about 76% of reported arrests, theyrepresented 95% of persons who died during theprocess of arrest
Quote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 14, 2014, 11:06:33 AMWait - were the ranchers looting and burning stores? I did not hear about that.I think the Ferguson police need to try their best to not harass, detain, or harm the peaceful protestors - but I suspect that's sometimes easier said than done when the vandals and looters are intermixed among the protests. If I were a protestor, I'd probably go down to city hall and protest there - not in the middle of the violence. Seems like a bad to place to be if I don't want to get tear gassed.Actually that's what started this whole thing. The police harassing and shooting someone
Can you imagine if the Ferguson protestors were carrying guns openly?
As a group, arrest-related decedents tended to be older than the arrestpopulation. Those under the age of 25 accounted for45% of reported arrests but less than a quarter (22%) ofarrest-related deaths.
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The Ferguson police need to get on twitter and tell us what in the world they are doing. Because everything looks bad, and I don't want to believe that they are just completely rough ridin' up this badly. Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk
The inclination to riot is due the a reduced fear of getting caught, it's not a deep seated reaction to generations of oppression.
Oh man, So we've confirmed 4 different ways more whites have been shot by cops than blacks. How does this effect the value on life analysis? What about the inherent inclination to riot apologetic defense?Like I said, it's a poor thing. The inclination to riot is due the a reduced fear of getting caught, it's not a deep seated reaction to generations of oppression.
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on August 14, 2014, 11:09:01 AMQuote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 14, 2014, 11:06:33 AMWait - were the ranchers looting and burning stores? I did not hear about that.I think the Ferguson police need to try their best to not harass, detain, or harm the peaceful protestors - but I suspect that's sometimes easier said than done when the vandals and looters are intermixed among the protests. If I were a protestor, I'd probably go down to city hall and protest there - not in the middle of the violence. Seems like a bad to place to be if I don't want to get tear gassed.They were pointing loaded weapons at law enforcement officers.Well that's a problem.
Quote from: MakeItRain on August 13, 2014, 11:10:34 PMTwo LOLable reports from Ferguson.1. This afternoon Ryan Reilly a white reporter from the Huffington Post and Wesley Lowery a black reporter from the Washington Post were working in a McDonald's when Ferguson cops came in riot gear and told them to leave because the area was unsafe. They apparently didn't leave fast enough for the cops so they were attested. Reilly said his head was slammed on the car after his arrest and Lowery said he was told he was resisting and slammed against the soda machine. They were taken to jail. A reporter for the LA Times called the chief of police for Ferguson and told him that the officers just arrested two journalists and the guys were quickly released. Reilly was given an arrest report number but was told no report would be filed.2. Elizabeth Matthews of KSDK out of St. Louis reported that right before their 10PM news the Ferguson cops shot a tear gas canister at an Al Jeezera TV truck. Her and the two cameramen heard the sound and left their truck to see what was happening, at that point she saw cops in riot gear guns drawn walking towards them. She said put her hands up but one of their tripods was hit with a fired bean bag. She said there were no protesters at their location and the riot cops yelled at them that this is for their own protection.I thought there were only like 60 cops in Ferguson, are these just the same dozen bad person cops rough ridin' with everyone? If the whole force is like this perhaps the chief should be charged as well when the cop who started this gets his federal charges.So the Ferguson mayor it's saying that St. Louis County is in charge and not the Ferguson cops.
