So it turns out we do negotiate with terrorists

[p1k3]

Lots of Paulites on here with the "if we don't bother them they won't bother us".  You guys should check out the movie Lawrence of Arabia (ironically for a dose of reality).

We started it. Maybe we should be the first to back off 

[Dugout DickStone]

Obama is going to drone these turds before the 4th of July.

[michigancat]

Obama is going to drone these turds before the 4th of July.

For a dose of reality, we should watch the film "Independence Day" starring Will Smith and Bill Pullman.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

I love me some Paul, but anyone who believes the "if we stop bothering them they'll leave us alone" is incredibly naive and ignorant.

[Emo EMAW]

Obama is going to drone these turds before the 4th of July.

For a dose of reality, we should watch the film "Independence Day" starring Will Smith and Bill Pullman.

Bill Pullman wasn't the #2 actor in that film and you rough ridin' know it!

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

WH aides are now complaining that veterans who served with The Deserter are trying to "swift boat" him. Just when you think the Obama apologists can't sink any lower... http://twitchy.com/2014/06/04/wow-and-so-it-begins-white-house-smears-vets-claims-swift-boating-of-bergdahl/

[michigancat]

Obama is going to drone these turds before the 4th of July.

For a dose of reality, we should watch the film "Independence Day" starring Will Smith and Bill Pullman.

Bill Pullman wasn't the #2 actor in that film and you rough ridin' know it!

#2
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116629/

#2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independence_Day_%281996_film%29

#2
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2495845376/tt0116629?ref_=ttmd_md_nxt

#2 (hard to read)
http://www.impawards.com/1996/independence_day_ver3.html


seems like you are incredibly naive and ignorant.

[Emo EMAW]

Obama is going to drone these turds before the 4th of July.

For a dose of reality, we should watch the film "Independence Day" starring Will Smith and Bill Pullman.

Bill Pullman wasn't the #2 actor in that film and you rough ridin' know it!

#2
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116629/

#2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independence_Day_%281996_film%29

#2
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2495845376/tt0116629?ref_=ttmd_md_nxt

#2 (hard to read)
http://www.impawards.com/1996/independence_day_ver3.html


seems like you are incredibly naive and ignorant.

All websites run by anti-semites.  Goldblum was clearly more prominent, and if he were black would even be above Will.

[puniraptor]

"what if jeff goldblum were black"

great SI cover

[michigancat]

Great retweeting going on here:

https://twitter.com/MattBinder

[CNS]

My fav completely fake fictional movie about political strife during war time is star wars.  I mean, I am really not a fan of the movie, or even the genre, but there are a lot of really good real-world applicable lessons in that completely fake piece of Hollywood fiction. 

[Emo EMAW]

What was fake about it?

[michigancat]

https://twitter.com/MattBinder/status/474267033216241664

[CNS]

What was fake about it?

The fact that ppl wouldn't reprogram the robots to stop being so.annoying.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

https://twitter.com/MattBinder/status/474267033216241664

It's not as funny now that the truth is widely known about his desertion.

[michigancat]

No, equally funny

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Michigancat has bizarre defense mechanisms for this administration's incompetence.

[p1k3]

I love me some Paul, but anyone who believes the "if we stop bothering them they'll leave us alone" is incredibly naive and ignorant.

Maybe not, but thinking that bombing them with robots from 60,000 feet will fix anything is pretty naive and ignorant as well

[Rage Against the McKee]

Would more or less Americans have died from 9/11 until today if we had not declared a war on terror?

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

This fight has been going on a long time and will continue through our lifetimes.

Before the United States achieved independence from Britain, American merchants ships were protected on the high seas by Britain's Royal Navy. But when the young nation was established its shipping could no longer count on British warships keeping it safe.

In March 1786, two future presidents met with an ambassador from the pirate nations of North Africa. Thomas Jefferson, who was the US ambassador in France, and John Adams, the ambassador to Britain, met with the ambassador from Tripoli in London. They asked why American merchant ships were being attacked without provocation.

The ambassador explained that Muslim pirates considered Americans to be infidels and they believed they simply had the right to plunder American ships.

The US government adopted a policy of essentially paying bribes, or tribute, to the pirates. Jefferson objected to the policy of paying tribute in the 1790s. Having been involved in negotiations to free Americans held by North African pirates, he believed paying tribute only invited more problems.

[Emo EMAW]

Would more or less Americans have died from 9/11 until today if we had not declared a war on terror?

The adjusted death rate has continued to decline since 9/11.  Only 5,281 combat deaths since 9/11, which would be statistically insignificant compared to about 2.25 million deaths per year since 9/11.

[420seriouscat69]

Would more or less Americans have died from 9/11 until today if we had not declared a war on terror?

Do you think we should have kicked back during the WW's? I mean, eff it!

[Rage Against the McKee]

Would more or less Americans have died from 9/11 until today if we had not declared a war on terror?

Do you think we should have kicked back during the WW's? I mean, eff it!

Germany probably should have.

[420seriouscat69]

Would more or less Americans have died from 9/11 until today if we had not declared a war on terror?

Do you think we should have kicked back during the WW's? I mean, eff it!

Germany probably should have.

So you think Germany was todays U.S.?

[Rage Against the McKee]

Would more or less Americans have died from 9/11 until today if we had not declared a war on terror?

The adjusted death rate has continued to decline since 9/11.  Only 5,281 combat deaths since 9/11, which would be statistically insignificant compared to about 2.25 million deaths per year since 9/11.

Do you think the terrorist-related deaths would have been statistically significant?