Shane

[kso_FAN]

WE WERE DOWN 2 WHY WOULD YOU WANT NIGEL JOHNSON TO SHOOT A 3?!

Because he was playing his best game as a Wildcat and was already 2-4 from 3?

[michigancat]

I don't think oscar likes transition threes as much as I do.

[The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep]

yes I watched the game. so youre telling me in that situation youd rather have Nigel Johnson shoot a 3 than to call a TO and put Foster back in to run a play for him or Gipson down low? yeah, Nigel had a very good game and yeah, he was 2-4 from deep that game, but he's also Nigel Johnson and we were down 2. id hope to god Nigel would have been smart enough to back out and allow oscar to call a TO instead of trying to be a hero like Shane did.

I disagree with the let the players play comment, especially when you don't have numbers. if you cant draw up a play for 2 pts in the final minute of the game when their ONLY big man has 4 fouls and you have Thomas Gipson who was totally dominant down low in the second half, then you shouldn't be coaching in the big 12.

I can deal with him not calling a TO, but saying its because he thought Nigel was open for a 3 is completely absurd. thats my beef.

[MakeItRain]

I don't think oscar likes transition threes as much as I do.

he clearly liked to have had one there, I know a coach who loves transition threes a whole lot

[michigancat]

I think in transition, entropy matters more than "numbers". I KNOW most coaches (and pickup game players) disagree with this. In other words, a 1 on 2 or 2 on 3 can still be a transition opportunity if the defense is in some degree of disarray.

[michigancat]

I don't think oscar likes transition threes as much as I do.

he clearly liked to have had one there, I know a coach who loves transition threes a whole lot

Roy Williams

[MakeItRain]

yes I watched the game. so youre telling me in that situation youd rather have Nigel Johnson shoot a 3 than to call a TO and put Foster back in to run a play for him or Gipson down low? yeah, Nigel had a very good game and yeah, he was 2-4 from deep that game, but he's also Nigel Johnson and we were down 2. id hope to god Nigel would have been smart enough to back out and allow oscar to call a TO instead of trying to be a hero like Shane did.

I disagree with the let the players play comment, especially when you don't have numbers. if you cant draw up a play for 2 pts in the final minute of the game when their ONLY big man has 4 fouls and you have Thomas Gipson who was totally dominant down low in the second half, then you shouldn't be coaching in the big 12.

I can deal with him not calling a TO, but saying its because he thought Nigel was open for a 3 is completely absurd. thats my beef.

yes I thought that Nigel shooting that three was the best play at that moment

and oscar's reasoning was far from absurd, Nigel had a great half and ran to the exact spot he should have ran to and was wide open, it was a textbook transition 3 set up

[MakeItRain]

I don't think oscar likes transition threes as much as I do.

he clearly liked to have had one there, I know a coach who loves transition threes a whole lot

Roy Williams

the guy I'm thinking about isn't quite that gray, but is twice the size as Roy

[Rage Against the McKee]

I don't think you should rely on percentages much with a Freshman who barely played most of the season and only attempted 57 3's. Johnson had a great game and Shane should have found him for the open 3. We weren't going to get a look that good after a timeout.

[kso_FAN]

I don't think you should rely on percentages much with a Freshman who barely played most of the season and only attempted 57 3's. Johnson had a great game and Shane should have found him for the open 3. We weren't going to get a look that good after a timeout.

I agree with this, especially for Foster, but for certain we wouldn't have gotten a shot as wide open as Nigel was in the corner in ANY half court set.

[_33]

I didn't watch or listen to the game but my gut tells me to blame oscar.  Also my heart and my brain.

[The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep]

well I guess im in the minority in saying I don't want Nigel Johnson shooting a 3 with 15 seconds left to win a game when were down 2.  who would have thought...

[420seriouscat69]

I didn't watch or listen to the game but my gut tells me to blame oscar.  Also my heart and my brain.

It's dumb to blame him. Nigel was wide open and hot. I thought we had a great transition opportunity. Also, he worked the refs the second half and got the calls on our side for once. I thought that was impressive.

[_33]

I didn't watch or listen to the game but my gut tells me to blame oscar.  Also my heart and my brain.

It's dumb to blame him. Nigel was wide open and hot. I thought we had a great transition opportunity. Also, he worked the refs the second half and got the calls on our side for once. I thought that was impressive.

Tell it to my gut.

[420seriouscat69]

I didn't watch or listen to the game but my gut tells me to blame oscar.  Also my heart and my brain.

It's dumb to blame him. Nigel was wide open and hot. I thought we had a great transition opportunity. Also, he worked the refs the second half and got the calls on our side for once. I thought that was impressive.

Tell it to my gut.

Hi _33's gut, I think you should think that oscar did a good job with our wild wildcats today. Cause he did!

[Powercat Posse]

Curtis Kitchen ?@curtiskitchen  6m
Shane Southwell owned it on last turnover: "I had total tunnel vision, I'm not going to lie to you." #kstate #big12mbb

Their is a difference between being AGGRESSIVE and being FOOLISH.   Don't care if he got caught up in the action.  He had plenty of time to realize.... wooooah, maybe I should back it out (after he pushed it up the court and saw we didn't have numbers)

man you've posted this same thing like 4 times, and you're wrong

No I am not.  Shane never had any intention of kicking the ball out to anyone.  He even said, he had tunnel vision.  As soon as he crossed halfcourt, I could tell he was probably going to try to drive right to the lane and shoot or try to draw a foul. 

[The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep]

just really want to make sure that everyone knows they are saying they want Nigel Johnson shooting a 3 down 2 in the final minute of a game.

no take backs. youre on record from now on.

[michigancat]

just really want to make sure that everyone knows they are saying they want Nigel Johnson shooting a 3 down 2 in the final minute of a game.

no take backs. youre on record from now on.

I'll go on record as saying I would have been fine with it. I also would have been fine with Shane shooting had he not lost the ball. I also would have been fine if oscar called a timeout to put in Foster.

[Stevesie60]

I enjoyed watching everyone on twitter being pissed at Shane, to everyone on twitter being pissed at the people who were pissed at Shane.

[The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep]

just really want to make sure that everyone knows they are saying they want Nigel Johnson shooting a 3 down 2 in the final minute of a game.

no take backs. youre on record from now on.

I'll go on record as saying I would have been fine with it. I also would have been fine with Shane shooting had he not lost the ball. I also would have been fine if oscar called a timeout to put in Foster.

put them in order.

me-

1- oscar calls TO, puts in foster
2- shane puts up shot in transition
417- nigel johnson shoots a 3.

id rather have just about every scenario possible happen except put jevon thomas on the line for 2 FTs.

[420seriouscat69]

Nigel was hotter than hansel. You're crazy!

[michigancat]

just really want to make sure that everyone knows they are saying they want Nigel Johnson shooting a 3 down 2 in the final minute of a game.

no take backs. youre on record from now on.

I'll go on record as saying I would have been fine with it. I also would have been fine with Shane shooting had he not lost the ball. I also would have been fine if oscar called a timeout to put in Foster.

put them in order.

me-

1- oscar calls TO, puts in foster
2- shane puts up shot in transition
417- nigel johnson shoots a 3.

id rather have just about every scenario possible happen except put jevon thomas on the line for 2 FTs.

they're all about equal to me. I'd probably put Shane shooting ahead of everything. But not by much.

[Asteriskhead]

I enjoyed watching everyone on twitter being pissed at Shane, to everyone on twitter being pissed at the people who were pissed at Shane.

Looking back, that was a fun stretch on twitter. I wish I would have stepped back and just watched.

[The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep]

Nigel was hotter than hansel. You're crazy!

i mean were arguing about something that didn't happen here, but i don't like the idea of nigel Johnson shooting a 3 in that situation. better than a turnover, sure, but not better than a TO.

i guess im just having a hard time believing that people would want him to shoot there. but hey, didn't happen. oh well...

[michigancat]

just really want to make sure that everyone knows they are saying they want Nigel Johnson shooting a 3 down 2 in the final minute of a game.

no take backs. youre on record from now on.

I'll go on record as saying I would have been fine with it. I also would have been fine with Shane shooting had he not lost the ball. I also would have been fine if oscar called a timeout to put in Foster.

put them in order.

me-

1- oscar calls TO, puts in foster
2- shane puts up shot in transition
417- nigel johnson shoots a 3.

id rather have just about every scenario possible happen except put jevon thomas on the line for 2 FTs.

they're all about equal to me. I'd probably put Shane shooting ahead of everything. But not by much.

Looking at percentages, I change my answer to being the number 1 choice:

Chances Nigel hits an open 3 - I'll put it at 30%. But for discussion sake, I'll put that as a win. 30% chance of victory
Chance we score out of a timeout: Let's be generous and say 50% chance of a 2. Let's assume we have a 50% chance of winning in overtime. 25% chance of victory.
Chances Shane hits a 2: Let's say 40% chance it goes in. Again a 50% chance we win in overtime. 20% chance of victory