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Last 7 games - Jake Waters
« on: December 29, 2013, 12:15:37 AM »
17.4 yds per completion
14 pass TDs (18 total TD) 4 ints

I still think we should play both QBs next year, and I think Sams will be a big part of this team next year.  But 17.4 per completion, the Waters-Haters need to take a chill. 


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Re: Last 7 games - Jake Waters
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2013, 12:24:49 AM »
Love Sams, but if Waters plays like this consistently he'll be drafted, and get every relevant minute of playing time.

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Re: Last 7 games - Jake Waters
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2013, 12:26:34 AM »
Guys, not the time or place yet. Enjoy the win.


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Re: Last 7 games - Jake Waters
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2013, 12:28:14 AM »
Guys, not the time or place yet. Enjoy the win.

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Re: Last 7 games - Jake Waters
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2013, 12:50:47 AM »
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Re: Last 7 games - Jake Waters
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2013, 08:50:26 AM »
Based on performace last night, it was like, "Why are they even putting Sams in there at all?" Even when they put him in as a goal line specialist, he was totally outperformed by Waters on the goal line. 

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Re: Last 7 games - Jake Waters
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2013, 08:52:11 AM »
Based on performace last night, it was like, "Why are they even putting Sams in there at all?" Even when they put him in as a goal line specialist, he was totally outperformed by Waters on the goal line.

sad, but true. 


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Re: Last 7 games - Jake Waters
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2013, 09:23:54 AM »
Guys, not the time or place yet. Enjoy the win.

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Re: Last 7 games - Jake Waters
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2013, 10:05:51 AM »
If Lockett catches that TD that SAMs put in his bread basket it's a different story.

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Re: Last 7 games - Jake Waters
« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2013, 10:31:21 AM »
If Lockett catches that TD that SAMs put in his bread basket it's a different story.

Yea, this place would be a non-stop party of QB awesomeness.  Shame really

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Re: Last 7 games - Jake Waters
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2013, 10:32:50 AM »
If Lockett catches that TD that SAMs put in his bread basket it's a different story.

Yea, this place would be a non-stop party of QB awesomeness.  Shame really

it was devastating to me.  I couldn't believe it.  then the fumble....

but hey, cats won the battle.

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Re: Last 7 games - Jake Waters
« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2013, 11:03:01 AM »
If Lockett catches that TD that SAMs put in his bread basket it's a different story.

Yea, this place would be a non-stop party of QB awesomeness.  Shame really

it was devastating to me.  I couldn't believe it.  then the fumble....

but hey, cats won the battle.

Was super sad over that two play series of events.

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Re: Last 7 games - Jake Waters
« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2013, 12:40:53 PM »
Yep. Especially because that pass was as well placed as any pass off the night. It was perfect.

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Re: Last 7 games - Jake Waters
« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2013, 01:22:35 PM »
So, Jake performs better in the red zone (allegedly) for a game and we shouldn't play Sams?

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Re: Last 7 games - Jake Waters
« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2013, 01:30:11 PM »
The last seven blah, blah, but last night was the first game Jake didn't go into an extended 3-and-out funk. It was far and away his best game and the only one that justifies his enshrinement as No. 1 QB.

If Sams makes strides or big strides in the next eight months, I don't know how he doesn't get time behind center.

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Re: Last 7 games - Jake Waters
« Reply #15 on: December 29, 2013, 01:32:08 PM »
I think our fans generally underestimate how good our offenses are

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Re: Last 7 games - Jake Waters
« Reply #16 on: December 29, 2013, 01:32:58 PM »
Outside of the Sams fumble (that hurt), I honestly thought both QB's performed well. Even Sams should had that passing TD, the one where somehow, Lockett dropped it, and that pass was right on the money.

I honestly, thought that this game, they played the QB's strengths perfectly.

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Re: Last 7 games - Jake Waters
« Reply #17 on: December 29, 2013, 01:36:39 PM »
I think Sams actually checked out of whatever QB sweep Dana/Del wanted him to run and went balls out to Lockett.

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Re: Last 7 games - Jake Waters
« Reply #18 on: December 29, 2013, 01:36:44 PM »
I think our fans generally underestimate how good our offenses are

Agreed.

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It’s not a surprise to see Baylor sitting atop the Big 12 in yards per play. The Bears were one of college football’s most creative and versatile offenses while averaging 7.58 yards per play this season.

The same can be said about the team that sits second in the conference. It brings an explosive, balanced offense that is difficult to prepare for and always has a creative wrinkle. That team? Kansas State.

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Re: Last 7 games - Jake Waters
« Reply #19 on: December 29, 2013, 01:39:39 PM »
I think our fans generally underestimate how good our offenses are

yes, I remember at some point snyder had a crazy run of consecutive games with like 28+ points.

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Re: Last 7 games - Jake Waters
« Reply #20 on: December 29, 2013, 02:17:34 PM »
People around here know the numbers of each QB fine, but I only go by trends and what this season showed us for who this staff built this offense for...



The use of Sams correlates with the games Lockett missed most of the snaps, though it would've been interesting to see the balance at OSU had Lockett not gotten hurt. IMHO Sams was initially a change of pace against OSU to start that game and once Lockett got hurt and it was clear that Waters without him was ineffective, they stuck with Sams. Then the staff stuck with that formula when Lockett was out against Baylor. However, the overall plan from the time Waters became the starter, this team was built for the Waters to Lockett connection. That staff deviated from that when Lockett was hurt and it worked well, but this offense was never built to be for Sams. The rest of the season the trend is clear and they gradually turned the reigns back over to Waters. Its possible that Sams might have gotten dinged as some have speculated down the stretch, but Waters was going to get most of the snaps once Lockett was healthy.

This is a Waters/Lockett team and now the key is figuring out how to use Sams and if the staff thinks they have a back-up QB they can trust to move Sams full time to another spot, likely receiver.

It just all seems pretty clear from looking at that to me.




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Re: Last 7 games - Jake Waters
« Reply #21 on: December 29, 2013, 02:29:27 PM »
So, for the people who have trouble reconciling Snyder's decision to bench Sams in favor of Waters with his historical tendency to opt for more athletic QBs, just think of it in terms of him deciding to bench Sams in favor of one of his pets, Baby Lockett.

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Re: Last 7 games - Jake Waters
« Reply #22 on: December 29, 2013, 03:44:04 PM »
Loved that we kept getting crowd shots of future and past k-state stud Locketts last night
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Re: Last 7 games - Jake Waters
« Reply #23 on: December 29, 2013, 03:46:18 PM »
Jake the snake!
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Re: Last 7 games - Jake Waters
« Reply #24 on: December 29, 2013, 03:49:10 PM »
Jake the snake!

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