Unsettled Waters

[Stevesie60]

Sams makes all those bad reads and mistakes and still gets more YPP and PPP. So yeah, Waters is the obvious choice.

[kostakio]

This two-QB ploy is totally working, you guys. Let's all stop arguing. I mean, WE BEAT WEST VIRGINIA AND IOWA STATE! All is well in the happiest place on earth!!!!

Keep doing this same thing next year and WE SHALL GO UNDEFEATED, NATIONAL CHAMPS 2014!!!!!!!!

I don't think there is anything wrong with thinking that playing both of them this year is our best chance to win, AND thinking that our best chance to win next year will be one of the QBs stepping up and taking the job. The two thoughts are not mutually exclusive.

Yes, they are, because our best chance to win next year is having one QB get maximum reps this season.

And playing Waters over Sams this year never increases our chances to win now anyway. So any way you slice it, going all in on #LIFE is the only logical way to go.

Both of these players have huge holes in their game performance 2/3 of the way through the season. One QB's weakness tends to be the other QB's strength. Another 4 weeks probably isn't going to resolve that. An entire offseason, hopefully with a month of bowl practices, makes it a possibility. Both QBs have had the opportunity to show that they've grown in particular areas this year, and for the most part they haven't been able to do that. Playing every snap the rest of the season isn't going to fix either of our QB's turnover problem, neither will it fix Sam's decision making and trouble with the long ball, nor will it fix Jake's inability to hit his receivers in stride on short routes or make him a better runner/scrambler/sack avoider.

Which would serve Sams' development better: 100% of the snaps for the remainder of this season (including the bowl), or 30-60%?

This is really quite simple. The outcome this season will be the same regardless of what we do with the QBs. The outcome the next two seasons could be quite significantly different if we eff this thing up (by continuing to play Waters) or pull our heads out (and put Sams on the Roberson progression path immediately).

Honestly I think he might be better off getting maybe 60% of the snaps.  Right now with the limited package he uses he would take too much of a pounding with 100%.  HE can't carry it 30 times every week like he did vs. Baylor. 

I'm a team Sams guy but I"m fine with rotating him and Waters.  He needs to at least learn how to execute the option and the zone read before he's ready for 100% of the snaps.  What kind of a duel threat QB can't run those plays?   

[ksupamplemousse]

#H3O apologists are just so strange.  Bet they voted for Obama.

What constitutes a Waters' apologist? Also, take that crap to the birther pit.

[KanSt43]

Our fan base has very, very low FBIQ. My God....

cool username kanst43.

I assume you liked Carson Coffman.

[Rage Against the McKee]

This is really quite simple. The outcome this season will be the same regardless of what we do with the QBs.

LOL, no. Our chances of winning increase as the number of snaps Sams takes increases.

[Bill Clarahan]

Waters runs the ball like a fainting goat, just make a loud noise and he goes down, Sams ,on the other hand, is like Wallenda on a high wire.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Waters runs the ball like a fainting goat, just make a loud noise and he goes down, Sams ,on the other hand, is like Wallenda on a high wire.

Waters has done better these last few games. The first few games were absolutely pathetic, though.

[slobber]

Waters runs the ball like a fainting goat, just make a loud noise and he goes down, Sams ,on the other hand, is like Wallenda on a high wire.

Waters has done better these last few games. The first few games were absolutely pathetic, though.

Really needs to work on the fainting goat problem. One of you needs to gif that ASAP.

[ksupamplemousse]

This is really quite simple. The outcome this season will be the same regardless of what we do with the QBs.

LOL, no. Our chances of winning increase as the number of snaps Sams takes increases.

This is the same trap that the Royals continue to fall into with utlility players. Just because a guy hits lefties pretty well in a small sample size, it doesn't mean he should be starting every day.

[star seed 7]

why, when faced with running to the open field or running straight at a defender, does #H3O pick running straight at a defender and then falling down before the defender even touches him?

that really makes me not like #H3O.

[Rage Against the McKee]

This is really quite simple. The outcome this season will be the same regardless of what we do with the QBs.

LOL, no. Our chances of winning increase as the number of snaps Sams takes increases.

This is the same trap that the Royals continue to fall into with utlility players. Just because a guy hits lefties pretty well in a small sample size, it doesn't mean he should be starting every day.

I have no idea who you are talking about and what it has to do with us continuing to not use the best player on the football team.

[Stevesie60]

why, when faced with running to the open field or running straight at a defender, does #H3O pick running straight at a defender and then falling down before the defender even touches him?

that really makes me not like #H3O.

Because he didn't spend two years learning from the GKSFBOAT Collin Klein like our guy did.

[CNS]

Can we all just agree that anyone trying to compare the royals and our guy should be excommunicated from EMAW?

[ksupamplemousse]

This is really quite simple. The outcome this season will be the same regardless of what we do with the QBs.

LOL, no. Our chances of winning increase as the number of snaps Sams takes increases.

This is the same trap that the Royals continue to fall into with utlility players. Just because a guy hits lefties pretty well in a small sample size, it doesn't mean he should be starting every day.

I have no idea who you are talking about and what it has to do with us continuing to not use the best player on the football team.

I'm saying that we have two QBs who are limited in their capabilities right now, they seem to complement each other well in what they do on the field, so the smart thing to do is have a platoon situation where you are putting both players in a position to succeed depending on the situation. Also, Sams is not the best football player on our team. Best athlete? Maybe.

[kso_FAN]

Tonight I will be releasing a comprehensive comparison between the two QBs from just our 5 Big 12 games. Breakdowns will include how each has been used in the running game, passing game, and big plays created. In addition, I will break down each player on a per drive basis. Some interesting stuff.

[The Whale]

My point is on the film that Snyder reviews, Sams makes many more mistakes than Waters does. Waters continually puts the offense in better resulting plays than Sams does.

Stopped reading.

It didn't get better any later in the post with this:  "not eff up the blocking scheme by jumping in front of a blocker "

[steve dave]

Tonight I will be releasing a comprehensive comparison between the two QBs from just our 5 Big 12 games. Breakdowns will include how each has been used in the running game, passing game, and big plays created. In addition, I will break down each player on a per drive basis. Some interesting stuff.

do all the games

[kslim]

This is really quite simple. The outcome this season will be the same regardless of what we do with the QBs.

LOL, no. Our chances of winning increase as the number of snaps Sams takes increases.

This is the same trap that the Royals continue to fall into with utlility players. Just because a guy hits lefties pretty well in a small sample size, it doesn't mean he should be starting every day.

I have no idea who you are talking about and what it has to do with us continuing to not use the best player on the football team.

I'm saying that we have two QBs who are limited in their capabilities right now, they seem to complement each other well in what they do on the field, so the smart thing to do is have a platoon situation where you are putting both players in a position to succeed depending on the situation. Also, Sams is not the best football player on our team. Best athlete? Maybe.

 

[kso_FAN]

Tonight I will be releasing a comprehensive comparison between the two QBs from just our 5 Big 12 games. Breakdowns will include how each has been used in the running game, passing game, and big plays created. In addition, I will break down each player on a per drive basis. Some interesting stuff.

do all the games

First, I didn't break down the UMass game and UMass/LaLa were pretty meaningless anyway. NDSU didn't feature a fair shot for Sams because he was limited in PT because of his injury. We all know that Waters struggled in that game, as well as the entire offense.

Second, I thought the Big 12 was a pretty good measuring stick because in those 5 games they've played almost an identical number of plays. By the time we got to the Texas game the coaches really knew what they had and as I have pointed out, both players have gotten opportunities.

[steve dave]

Tonight I will be releasing a comprehensive comparison between the two QBs from just our 5 Big 12 games. Breakdowns will include how each has been used in the running game, passing game, and big plays created. In addition, I will break down each player on a per drive basis. Some interesting stuff.

do all the games

First, I didn't break down the UMass game and UMass/LaLa were pretty meaningless anyway. NDSU didn't feature a fair shot for Sams because he was limited in PT because of his injury. We all know that Waters struggled in that game, as well as the entire offense.

Second, I thought the Big 12 was a pretty good measuring stick because in those 5 games they've played almost an identical number of plays. By the time we got to the Texas game the coaches really knew what they had and as I have pointed out, both players have gotten opportunities.

do them all

[kougar24]

This is really quite simple. The outcome this season will be the same regardless of what we do with the QBs.

LOL, no. Our chances of winning increase as the number of snaps Sams takes increases.

We're going to go to some middling bowl game regardless, this year. That ship has already left the port. That outcome has everything to do with the shittiness of our schedule.

[kso_FAN]

Tonight I will be releasing a comprehensive comparison between the two QBs from just our 5 Big 12 games. Breakdowns will include how each has been used in the running game, passing game, and big plays created. In addition, I will break down each player on a per drive basis. Some interesting stuff.

do all the games

First, I didn't break down the UMass game and UMass/LaLa were pretty meaningless anyway. NDSU didn't feature a fair shot for Sams because he was limited in PT because of his injury. We all know that Waters struggled in that game, as well as the entire offense.

Second, I thought the Big 12 was a pretty good measuring stick because in those 5 games they've played almost an identical number of plays. By the time we got to the Texas game the coaches really knew what they had and as I have pointed out, both players have gotten opportunities.

do them all

Also, I have it pretty much finished and it was already a lot of work breaking down 5 games with 333 offensive plays and 59 drives.

[kougar24]

I'm a team Sams guy but I"m fine with rotating him and Waters.

THEN YOU AREN'T TEAM SAMS.

Also, saying to play Sams 100% of the time is not akin to saying "Give him 35 carries a game." Saying we can't play Sams just because you think it's a certainty he'll eventually get injured is a stupid argument.

[CNS]

Ignoring the noncon ignores like 6 waters turnovers.

[steve dave]

Tonight I will be releasing a comprehensive comparison between the two QBs from just our 5 Big 12 games. Breakdowns will include how each has been used in the running game, passing game, and big plays created. In addition, I will break down each player on a per drive basis. Some interesting stuff.

do all the games

First, I didn't break down the UMass game and UMass/LaLa were pretty meaningless anyway. NDSU didn't feature a fair shot for Sams because he was limited in PT because of his injury. We all know that Waters struggled in that game, as well as the entire offense.

Second, I thought the Big 12 was a pretty good measuring stick because in those 5 games they've played almost an identical number of plays. By the time we got to the Texas game the coaches really knew what they had and as I have pointed out, both players have gotten opportunities.

do them all

Also, I have it pretty much finished and it was already a lot of work breaking down 5 games with 333 offensive plays and 59 drives.

hmmm, sounds like someone has an agenda.