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I'm not a fan of him as our QB because going into all big games I know we are going to lose. I felt with Klein and Bishop and Roberson and even Freeman that we had a chance to win those games. Like against Baylor I knew we would lose (so did everyone, not really going out on a limb there). Even having a weapon like Lockett I just never felt like we had a shot. Takes an entire team, I know, but he made me concede those and it always turned out correct. I mean, who is the best team he beat? And he lost to a D2 school which got him off on the wrong foot with me. And his worship of ISU and Paul Rhoads. And his fantasy football team name made me think I'd dislike hanging out with him. And his standing around when the ball is on the ground in front of him (multiple times). Good stats though and I think he was much better this year with controlling the turnovers. I, like FAN, think I've been very fair with him and yet here we stand on opposite sides of his fence.
_fan doesn't really have the ability to be critical of active players or coaches or coaching decisions, so he likes waters more than most. it's his one glaring weakness, which is meant as a compliment because it's his only one.
I'm not sure I've seen any criticisms of Waters that couldn't also be made of any other Snyder QBs. Snyder's teams are all pretty much the same with regard to ability. There's nothing wrong with acknowledging that style is important.
I'm not sure I've seen any criticisms of Waters that couldn't also be made of any other Snyder QBs.
Waters never had a put the team on my back doo, 2011 @Miami type game, to make us all love and embrace him
Quote from: chum1 on December 07, 2014, 01:49:45 PMI'm not sure I've seen any criticisms of Waters that couldn't also be made of any other Snyder QBs. one reason i don't really like him because other people think he is better than he really is. has that criticism been made? also, because he just doesn't care much unless he's playing an iowa team. if our season was playing nothing but 12 games against iowa teams then i would put him in my top five qbs under snyder behind bishop, ell, may and collin which were all obviously way, way better.
I definitely hate his style
Quote from: WillieWatanabe on December 07, 2014, 11:16:04 AMI doubt he gets drafted either. I can understand why people dislike him. I think its stupid, but i understand. most polarizing player in a while.But nobody hates him. He's just very not likeable and non-confidence-inspiring.
I doubt he gets drafted either. I can understand why people dislike him. I think its stupid, but i understand. most polarizing player in a while.
hate - verb: to dislike (someone) very strongly : to feel hate for (someone): to dislike (something) very strongly : to find (something) very unpleasant
OK, I forgot about Grant Gregory. I may hate him more for selfishly playing and moving Klein to WR when he should have been getting QB reps and delaying Klein's development and costing a national title.
Who is the best team Jake has beaten? Is it @ 4 loss OU this year?