First Openly Gay Athlete (in a major sport)

[jtksu]

I always kinda figured PoetWarrior was a gay dood or a female. Turns out he's just a bigot. Weird.

[Panjandrum]

Something really powerful and great happened today, and this is going to the pit.

I'm happy for Collins.    I wish other people could simply be happy that he feels like a weight has been lifted and can live his life genuinely and love who he wants to love.

That's pretty great.

[MakeItRain]

My God loves gays the same way he loves the judgmental looking down their noses from their ivory towers at people who lead different lifestyles or make different choices. You'll feel better about yourself when you start taking people for who they are, all of them. My day was made brighter by this, sorry it had a negative effect on you.

My God loves all people, but hates sin.  I don't believe there is such a thing as a homosexual.  I believe it is a person that chooses to commit the sin of homosexuality.

As long as we're acknowledging that is YOUR narrow ass purview and you're choosing to make poor and uninformed choices based on your willingness to remain ignorant, then fine, be a moron. I have no idea why you simps think that anyone would choose to be gay given how our society treats gays. If you read what Collins said, which I'm sure you didn't, he referred to struggling for his entire life identifying who he was.

I'd be interested to know what you think of suicide rates among teens who identify themselves as gay. Since you think it is a choice for guys to eff other guys and carry with that all it brings. What would you think of a gay virgin, still a sinner?

[puniraptor]

Homosexuality is a sin, as is pedophelia

You are seriously a horrible person, if I meet you irl I'll spit on you, Phelps.

Read Romans 1:18-28 and tell me how the Bible doesn't view homosexuality as a sin.

Romans is just, like, Paul's opinion, man.

[jtksu]

Being gay isn't a choice, dumbass.

You sure, hemmy?

I believe being tempted with the desire for the same sex is not a choice, but choosing to submit is a choice.

The bible is just a book. A boring one.

I find it pretty entertaining. Not like I base my life around it or anything but there's some pretty good stories in there. You know what else was pretty entertaining? Dianetics.

[ednksu]

Something really powerful and great happened today, and this is going to the pit.

I'm happy for Collins.    I wish other people could simply be happy that he feels like a weight has been lifted and can live his life genuinely and love who he wants to love.

That's pretty great.

[PoetWarrior]

What the Bible says about homosexuality is clear, but what is equally clear is what is said about marriage and adultery and that is where this discussion should take place.

[MakeItRain]

Apparently one that can be interpreted however you want to fit whatever agenda you want to push and ignored in other cases to do things like watch sporting events and make youtube videos idolizing 20 year old boys.

You didn't hear that I didn't renew my ticket?

That has nothing to do with what I typed and you know it. You pick and choose what's important to you in the Bible, that's okay I guess. I do too, I have no problem admitting it.

[puniraptor]

PW, which version of the bible is your favorite?

[PoetWarrior]

That has nothing to do with what I typed and you know it. You pick and choose what's important to you in the Bible, that's okay I guess. I do too, I have no problem admitting it.

No, this is probably the biggest difference between us. I accept it all and I believe it all and I have more knowledge and understanding of it then you, likely (sadly), will have in your lifetime. But that's why we're talking, because I choose to aim to help you.

[scottwildcat]

Man did this thread take a turn to the pit or what.

[PoetWarrior]

PW, which version of the bible is your favorite?

The one that is faithfully translated into my language.

[fun muffin]

Homosexuality is a sin, as is pedophelia

You are seriously a horrible person, if I meet you irl I'll spit on you, Phelps.

Read Romans 1:18-28 and tell me how the Bible doesn't view homosexuality as a sin.

sure hope you've never gotten a Bj from your woman(assuming you're a dude), worn mixed fabrics, eaten some seafood, or mumped before you were married.

So you are quoting Leviticus.  Did you know that not all of Leviticus was written to everyone?  There were sins that applied only to the Jews such as eating shellfish, rabbit, and pork, etc., which were things that represented purity before the Lord.  We know this because God says, "Speak to the sons of Israel saying..."  He gives instructions to the Israelites, not to the rest of the nations.

Meanwhile, homosexuality is an abomination that is seen elsewhere in scripture not referring to Jews only.  But to all people, all nations. 

When you quote the Bible is has to be in it's proper context.  You took the seafood stuff and mixed fabrics out of context.  It was written specifically for Jews.

[ednksu]

That has nothing to do with what I typed and you know it. You pick and choose what's important to you in the Bible, that's okay I guess. I do too, I have no problem admitting it.

No, this is probably the biggest difference between us. I accept it all and I believe it all and I have more knowledge and understanding of it then you, likely (sadly), will have in your lifetime. But that's why we're talking, because I choose to aim to help you.

Okay, so what are your qualifications.  Clearly angling towards some sect of protestantism. 


Also should we condemn David?  He was a man of taste and distinction right?  I mean it says so in the Bible.

[PoetWarrior]

You didn't hear that I didn't renew my ticket?

That has nothing to do with what I typed and you know it. You pick and choose what's important to you in the Bible, that's okay I guess. I do too, I have no problem admitting it.

Oh, and yes it actually did. I purposefully post.

[MakeItRain]

Homosexuality is a sin, as is pedophelia

You are seriously a horrible person, if I meet you irl I'll spit on you, Phelps.

Read Romans 1:18-28 and tell me how the Bible doesn't view homosexuality as a sin.

I read 4 different versions and I don't interpret it that way.  So I'm guessing you use Acts 17:26 and Rom. 9:19-24 as defenses against interracial marriage?

[PoetWarrior]

Okay, so what are your qualifications.  Clearly angling towards some sect of protestantism. 


Also should we condemn David?  He was a man of taste and distinction right?  I mean it says so in the Bible.

My qualifications are that I believe that the Bible is communication to us from the one true God.

David was a sinner, like us all. A man.

[MakeItRain]

What the Bible says about homosexuality is clear, but what is equally clear is what is said about marriage and adultery and that is where this discussion should take place.

I asked if you and/or fun muffin would view a homosexual virgin as a sinner.

[fun muffin]

What the Bible says about homosexuality is clear, but what is equally clear is what is said about marriage and adultery and that is where this discussion should take place.

I asked if you and/or fun muffin would view a homosexual virgin as a sinner.

I think you are asking the wrong question.

[ednksu]

Homosexuality is a sin, as is pedophelia

You are seriously a horrible person, if I meet you irl I'll spit on you, Phelps.

Read Romans 1:18-28 and tell me how the Bible doesn't view homosexuality as a sin.

sure hope you've never gotten a Bj from your woman(assuming you're a dude), worn mixed fabrics, eaten some seafood, or mumped before you were married.

So you are quoting Leviticus.  Did you know that not all of Leviticus was written to everyone?  There were sins that applied only to the Jews such as eating shellfish, rabbit, and pork, etc., which were things that represented purity before the Lord.  We know this because God says, "Speak to the sons of Israel saying..."  He gives instructions to the Israelites, not to the rest of the nations.

Meanwhile, homosexuality is an abomination that is seen elsewhere in scripture not referring to Jews only.  But to all people, all nations. 

When you quote the Bible is has to be in it's proper context.  You took the seafood stuff and mixed fabrics out of context.  It was written specifically for Jews.

Actually it was Deuteronomy for the fabric and more importantly....new versus old testament, how does it work?/ICP magnets

[ednksu]

Okay, so what are your qualifications.  Clearly angling towards some sect of protestantism. 


Also should we condemn David?  He was a man of taste and distinction right?  I mean it says so in the Bible.

My qualifications are that I believe that the Bible is communication to us from the one true God.

David was a sinner, like us all. A man.

nice tapout. 

[fun muffin]

Okay, so what are your qualifications.  Clearly angling towards some sect of protestantism. 


Also should we condemn David?  He was a man of taste and distinction right?  I mean it says so in the Bible.

My qualifications are that I believe that the Bible is communication to us from the one true God.

David was a sinner, like us all. A man.

nice tapout.

well it's the truth.  that's why we need Jesus and the grace he offers.

[ednksu]

Okay, so what are your qualifications.  Clearly angling towards some sect of protestantism. 


Also should we condemn David?  He was a man of taste and distinction right?  I mean it says so in the Bible.

My qualifications are that I believe that the Bible is communication to us from the one true God.

David was a sinner, like us all. A man.

nice tapout.

well it's the truth.  that's why we need Jesus and the grace he offers.

please stop posting.  that was a direct question to establish his superior qualifications.  he tapped the mat. 

[PoetWarrior]

please stop posting.  that was a direct question to establish his superior qualifications.  he tapped the mat.

I've opened the Bible and used my eyes to read it. What more are you looking for? That is the answer to your question.

[ednksu]

please stop posting.  that was a direct question to establish his superior qualifications.  he tapped the mat.

I've opened the Bible and used my eyes to read it. What more are you looking for? That is the answer to your question.

which bible?