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Quote from: ShellShock on January 13, 2014, 06:54:37 PMQuote from: sys on January 13, 2014, 06:26:25 PMhey shellshock, my father's in-floor heating tube system had some cheap plastic part bust (maybe a fan or something, dunno, didn't pay too much attention) and it caused the whole thing to tear itself apart (motor, computer, etc). cost like $600, or maybe $1000. he was real pissed about it. maybe you should let your friends at big hvac know so they improve the quality of the plastic part.if you need the name of the part, i can get him to tell the story again and i'll pay attention this time. he loves to tell the story.I'm curious about what brand it was? A huge problem with in-floor heating is that it doesn't get installed right the majority of the time....still confused how/why there was a fan and/or computer attached to the system though...maybe you don't have all the information?LOL...obvious Trane shill here amirite? Acting like there wouldn't be a FAN connected to a hydronic radiant system. LIES!
Quote from: sys on January 13, 2014, 06:26:25 PMhey shellshock, my father's in-floor heating tube system had some cheap plastic part bust (maybe a fan or something, dunno, didn't pay too much attention) and it caused the whole thing to tear itself apart (motor, computer, etc). cost like $600, or maybe $1000. he was real pissed about it. maybe you should let your friends at big hvac know so they improve the quality of the plastic part.if you need the name of the part, i can get him to tell the story again and i'll pay attention this time. he loves to tell the story.I'm curious about what brand it was? A huge problem with in-floor heating is that it doesn't get installed right the majority of the time....still confused how/why there was a fan and/or computer attached to the system though...maybe you don't have all the information?
hey shellshock, my father's in-floor heating tube system had some cheap plastic part bust (maybe a fan or something, dunno, didn't pay too much attention) and it caused the whole thing to tear itself apart (motor, computer, etc). cost like $600, or maybe $1000. he was real pissed about it. maybe you should let your friends at big hvac know so they improve the quality of the plastic part.if you need the name of the part, i can get him to tell the story again and i'll pay attention this time. he loves to tell the story.
Quote from: ShellShock on January 13, 2014, 11:52:21 PMQuote from: Skipper44 on January 13, 2014, 09:24:36 PMQuote from: ShellShock on January 13, 2014, 04:22:05 PMQuote from: steve dave on December 04, 2013, 06:26:06 PMAre they going to come out with a 3rd gen Nest thermostat in the next 6 months or should I go ahead and buy the 2nd gen now with the $40 amazon credit?Don't buy that piece of garbage. Do yourself a favor and go get the top of the line Honeywell or even an EcoBee. Honeywell definitely being the top choice though. It's going to run you $300-$400, but it's money well spent if you're building a new house. Tons more options and will play nice with every type of hvac system. The Honeywell one also can interface with lighting, landscape, garage door, alarm systems and such.I bought the top of the line (at Home Depot/Lowes) Honeywell and I like the look and operation of it but am disappointed it can't control my humidifier. Is there a professional version of http://www.homedepot.com/p/t/203926327 that can seamlessly control typical aprilaire humidifiers?I've controlled humidifiers with the Honeywell Prestige line before. The stats that HD and Lowes sell sometimes aren't the same ones that you can get if you just call up Honeywell directly....or know a Honeywell employee that can buy through their intranet. I've linked the right stat below:http://yourhome.honeywell.com/home/Products/Thermostats/7-Day-Programmable/Prestige+IAQ+Total+Home+Comfort+System.htmThanks for the link ShellShock, it looks like I can order the "Pro" equipment off Amazon.
Quote from: Skipper44 on January 13, 2014, 09:24:36 PMQuote from: ShellShock on January 13, 2014, 04:22:05 PMQuote from: steve dave on December 04, 2013, 06:26:06 PMAre they going to come out with a 3rd gen Nest thermostat in the next 6 months or should I go ahead and buy the 2nd gen now with the $40 amazon credit?Don't buy that piece of garbage. Do yourself a favor and go get the top of the line Honeywell or even an EcoBee. Honeywell definitely being the top choice though. It's going to run you $300-$400, but it's money well spent if you're building a new house. Tons more options and will play nice with every type of hvac system. The Honeywell one also can interface with lighting, landscape, garage door, alarm systems and such.I bought the top of the line (at Home Depot/Lowes) Honeywell and I like the look and operation of it but am disappointed it can't control my humidifier. Is there a professional version of http://www.homedepot.com/p/t/203926327 that can seamlessly control typical aprilaire humidifiers?I've controlled humidifiers with the Honeywell Prestige line before. The stats that HD and Lowes sell sometimes aren't the same ones that you can get if you just call up Honeywell directly....or know a Honeywell employee that can buy through their intranet. I've linked the right stat below:http://yourhome.honeywell.com/home/Products/Thermostats/7-Day-Programmable/Prestige+IAQ+Total+Home+Comfort+System.htm
Quote from: ShellShock on January 13, 2014, 04:22:05 PMQuote from: steve dave on December 04, 2013, 06:26:06 PMAre they going to come out with a 3rd gen Nest thermostat in the next 6 months or should I go ahead and buy the 2nd gen now with the $40 amazon credit?Don't buy that piece of garbage. Do yourself a favor and go get the top of the line Honeywell or even an EcoBee. Honeywell definitely being the top choice though. It's going to run you $300-$400, but it's money well spent if you're building a new house. Tons more options and will play nice with every type of hvac system. The Honeywell one also can interface with lighting, landscape, garage door, alarm systems and such.I bought the top of the line (at Home Depot/Lowes) Honeywell and I like the look and operation of it but am disappointed it can't control my humidifier. Is there a professional version of http://www.homedepot.com/p/t/203926327 that can seamlessly control typical aprilaire humidifiers?
Quote from: steve dave on December 04, 2013, 06:26:06 PMAre they going to come out with a 3rd gen Nest thermostat in the next 6 months or should I go ahead and buy the 2nd gen now with the $40 amazon credit?Don't buy that piece of garbage. Do yourself a favor and go get the top of the line Honeywell or even an EcoBee. Honeywell definitely being the top choice though. It's going to run you $300-$400, but it's money well spent if you're building a new house. Tons more options and will play nice with every type of hvac system. The Honeywell one also can interface with lighting, landscape, garage door, alarm systems and such.
Are they going to come out with a 3rd gen Nest thermostat in the next 6 months or should I go ahead and buy the 2nd gen now with the $40 amazon credit?
Don't be fooled. HVAC "professionals" are BIG TIME scam artists
Quote from: chum1 on January 14, 2014, 09:19:00 AMDon't be fooled. HVAC "professionals" are BIG TIME scam artistsHuge. Sure pays well though.
Quote from: IPA4Me on January 14, 2014, 01:11:04 PMQuote from: chum1 on January 14, 2014, 09:19:00 AMDon't be fooled. HVAC "professionals" are BIG TIME scam artistsHuge. Sure pays well though.Residential HVAC professionals are huge scam artists. A furnace that costs 2-3k to buy from the factory that gets sold to people for 10k is ridiculous. Disclaimer: I'm not on the residential side and i'm not a rep. I'm an engineer that designs commercial hvac. So, I have little bias to defend crooks like that.
why would anybody have a problem with ducts going through bar joists?
Quote from: mocat on January 14, 2014, 02:42:51 PMwhy would anybody have a problem with ducts going through bar joists? They don't always fit.
Quote from: schreds21 on January 14, 2014, 03:18:54 PMQuote from: mocat on January 14, 2014, 02:42:51 PMwhy would anybody have a problem with ducts going through bar joists? They don't always fit.I'm pulling the license from whoever stamped that joist.
Quote from: puniraptor on January 14, 2014, 03:19:57 PMQuote from: schreds21 on January 14, 2014, 03:18:54 PMQuote from: mocat on January 14, 2014, 02:42:51 PMwhy would anybody have a problem with ducts going through bar joists? They don't always fit.I'm pulling the license from whoever stamped that joist.I've actually seen worse.
Quote from: Limestone on January 14, 2014, 09:22:28 AMQuote from: ShellShock on January 13, 2014, 10:03:32 PMQuote from: chum1 on January 13, 2014, 07:29:26 PMI don't think you should be asking an HVAC guy questions about heated floors. He probably has no clue about them.False. I actually know quite a bit about heated floors, heated panels for walls, snowmelt systems for sidewalks, etc. If you've ever been to a KSU bball or football game, you've seen my work.I slipped and fell on an icy sidewalk outside of the OOD, broke my elbow. Nice work Which side of the OOD?
Quote from: ShellShock on January 13, 2014, 10:03:32 PMQuote from: chum1 on January 13, 2014, 07:29:26 PMI don't think you should be asking an HVAC guy questions about heated floors. He probably has no clue about them.False. I actually know quite a bit about heated floors, heated panels for walls, snowmelt systems for sidewalks, etc. If you've ever been to a KSU bball or football game, you've seen my work.I slipped and fell on an icy sidewalk outside of the OOD, broke my elbow. Nice work
Quote from: chum1 on January 13, 2014, 07:29:26 PMI don't think you should be asking an HVAC guy questions about heated floors. He probably has no clue about them.False. I actually know quite a bit about heated floors, heated panels for walls, snowmelt systems for sidewalks, etc. If you've ever been to a KSU bball or football game, you've seen my work.
I don't think you should be asking an HVAC guy questions about heated floors. He probably has no clue about them.
Quote from: ShellShock on January 14, 2014, 01:31:35 PMQuote from: IPA4Me on January 14, 2014, 01:11:04 PMQuote from: chum1 on January 14, 2014, 09:19:00 AMDon't be fooled. HVAC "professionals" are BIG TIME scam artistsHuge. Sure pays well though.Residential HVAC professionals are huge scam artists. A furnace that costs 2-3k to buy from the factory that gets sold to people for 10k is ridiculous. Disclaimer: I'm not on the residential side and i'm not a rep. I'm an engineer that designs commercial hvac. So, I have little bias to defend crooks like that.one of my best friends is an engineer that designs commericial hvac. you're not him are you?
i can undoubtedly say that is the worst representation of a bar joist (sp?) that i've ever seen