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Title: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 08, 2013, 11:49:20 AM
Assume it costs more, takes longer, but you get what you want?  What kind of percentage premium are we talking here?

EDIT: new thread title so people participate and don't blow by this thread
Title: Re: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: michigancat on March 08, 2013, 11:52:43 AM
there are plenty of houses, no need to build new ones.
Title: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: steve dave on March 08, 2013, 11:53:49 AM
It doesn't cost more
Title: Re: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 08, 2013, 11:54:16 AM
We might have specific needs like maybe I am paralyzed from below the dick.
Title: Re: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: CNS on March 08, 2013, 11:55:44 AM
Assume it costs more, takes longer, but you get what you want?  What kind of percentage premium are we talking here?

Depends on size, layout, difficulty, and overall cost.  There are other variables too, but those are the main ones. 

Also, Mich is right.  you will get a much better deal buying an exiting house right now.  If you hire someone to build it, you aren't getting a deal and you can always hire someone to build a paralyzed dick ramp or lift or something.

That said, if you are still getting paid to do nothing, you should totally go test out on the GC license and build it yourself.  Should be able to do so in the next 4-6 months and save 10%-20% on the overall.
Title: Re: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 08, 2013, 12:04:40 PM
Like I just feel people are building really stupid houses these days.  Having trouble finding layouts we like.  They always make the kids' rooms too big or throw in some superfluous formal dining room.  LIke I want baller kitchen and master BD and bath, but could skimp on crap I don't need.  Also want monster garage if I can't have an "out building" for all of my first world problems like boats and ATV's and other man stuff.
Title: Re: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: puniraptor on March 08, 2013, 12:05:32 PM
build a house out of straw bales. i read about it and thought it was cool.
Title: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: steve dave on March 08, 2013, 12:09:35 PM
You can also buy an 80% done house and have it finished to your specs. Talk to a large builder in your area and ask them what neighborhoods they have unsold starts and drive by to scope out the neighborhood. Or you can drive through a newer neighborhood and just scout out builder signs at new starts for an idea on who to call.
Title: Re: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on March 08, 2013, 12:10:59 PM
Like I just feel people are building really stupid houses these days.  Having trouble finding layouts we like.  They always make the kids' rooms too big or throw in some superfluous formal dining room.  LIke I want baller kitchen and master BD and bath, but could skimp on crap I don't need.  Also want monster garage if I can't have an "out building" for all of my first world problems like boats and ATV's and other man stuff.

If you build a house like the one you've described, you could have a lot of trouble selling it. Keep looking.
Title: Re: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 08, 2013, 12:25:24 PM
Like I just feel people are building really stupid houses these days.  Having trouble finding layouts we like.  They always make the kids' rooms too big or throw in some superfluous formal dining room.  LIke I want baller kitchen and master BD and bath, but could skimp on crap I don't need.  Also want monster garage if I can't have an "out building" for all of my first world problems like boats and ATV's and other man stuff.

If you build a house like the one you've described, you could have a lot of trouble selling it. Keep looking.

Plan on living there a long time.  Don't care about selling.  Will (hopefully) be super rich when we sell anyway so it won't matter.
Title: Re: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: CNS on March 08, 2013, 12:42:38 PM
If you end up hiring someone to build from scratch, let me know.  there are a few things I would recommend you discuss with the builder that would keep you from having some frustration in the future.

Title: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: steve dave on March 08, 2013, 12:44:46 PM
If you end up hiring someone to build from scratch, let me know.  there are a few things I would recommend you discuss with the builder that would keep you from having some frustration in the future.

PM me these things please
Title: Re: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 08, 2013, 12:45:26 PM
Will do.  I just can't decide if I'm being a bitch about what I want and if I'm stubborn and patient enough to build exactly what I want.
Title: Re: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: CNS on March 08, 2013, 12:48:01 PM
If you end up hiring someone to build from scratch, let me know.  there are a few things I would recommend you discuss with the builder that would keep you from having some frustration in the future.

PM me these things please

What type of house are you looking into building.  PM me a description as far as layout/style (ranch, split, etc) and I will give you what I have that applies.  Nothing earth shattering, but still worthwhile.
Title: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: steve dave on March 08, 2013, 12:48:42 PM
Ranch or two story
Title: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: steve dave on March 08, 2013, 12:48:52 PM
Walkout
Title: Re: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: michigancat on March 08, 2013, 12:53:31 PM
Like I just feel people are building really stupid houses these days.  Having trouble finding layouts we like.  They always make the kids' rooms too big or throw in some superfluous formal dining room.  LIke I want baller kitchen and master BD and bath, but could skimp on crap I don't need.  Also want monster garage if I can't have an "out building" for all of my first world problems like boats and ATV's and other man stuff.

If you build a house like the one you've described, you could have a lot of trouble selling it. Keep looking.

Plan on living there a long time.  Don't care about selling.  Will (hopefully) be super rich when we sell anyway so it won't matter.

then hire an architect and quit rough ridin' with these pudnocker cookie-cutter builders that will use shitty materials that will look/feel like crap in 10 years.
Title: Re: Re: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: CNS on March 08, 2013, 12:54:15 PM
Like I just feel people are building really stupid houses these days.  Having trouble finding layouts we like.  They always make the kids' rooms too big or throw in some superfluous formal dining room.  LIke I want baller kitchen and master BD and bath, but could skimp on crap I don't need.  Also want monster garage if I can't have an "out building" for all of my first world problems like boats and ATV's and other man stuff.

If you build a house like the one you've described, you could have a lot of trouble selling it. Keep looking.

Plan on living there a long time.  Don't care about selling.  Will (hopefully) be super rich when we sell anyway so it won't matter.

then hire an architect and quit rough ridin' with these pudnocker cookie-cutter builders that will use shitty materials that will look/feel like crap in 10 years.

Good advice
Title: Re: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: CNS on March 08, 2013, 01:15:31 PM
Walkout

I will get this to you tonight or this weekend. 
Title: Re: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: pissclams on March 08, 2013, 01:39:32 PM
custom is the only way to go.  if you have enough money, you'll find them.  also, like rusty said, architect.
Title: Re: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 08, 2013, 01:52:33 PM
Like I just feel people are building really stupid houses these days.  Having trouble finding layouts we like.  They always make the kids' rooms too big or throw in some superfluous formal dining room.  LIke I want baller kitchen and master BD and bath, but could skimp on crap I don't need.  Also want monster garage if I can't have an "out building" for all of my first world problems like boats and ATV's and other man stuff.

If you build a house like the one you've described, you could have a lot of trouble selling it. Keep looking.

Plan on living there a long time.  Don't care about selling.  Will (hopefully) be super rich when we sell anyway so it won't matter.

then hire an architect and quit rough ridin' with these pudnocker cookie-cutter builders that will use shitty materials that will look/feel like crap in 10 years.

That sounds like I need to be super rich now (which I'm not).
Title: Re: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: Skipper44 on March 08, 2013, 01:57:04 PM
Is this monument to Emo Emaw going in a neighborhood or out in the country?
Title: Re: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 08, 2013, 02:00:18 PM
Is this monument to Emo Emaw going in a neighborhood or out in the country?

Like I don't want my house wall to be 10 feet from my neighbor's house wall (seems like a lot of the new neighborhoods are like this), but like it'd be nice if we had neighbors?  I'm torn on the idea of a HOA.  Would love to have some free range chickens.  Don't really need like more than an acre if that's what you're asking.  Could certainly do with less than a half acre lot. 
Title: Re: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 08, 2013, 02:02:02 PM
Is this monument to Emo Emaw going in a neighborhood or out in the country?

Like I don't want my house wall to be 10 feet from my neighbor's house wall (seems like a lot of the new neighborhoods are like this), but like it'd be nice if we had neighbors?  I'm torn on the idea of a HOA.  Would love to have some free range chickens.  Don't really need like more than an acre if that's what you're asking.  Could certainly do with less than a half acre lot.

Based on the things you are saying, you absolutely do NOT want an HOA.
Title: Re: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 08, 2013, 02:05:08 PM
Is this monument to Emo Emaw going in a neighborhood or out in the country?

Like I don't want my house wall to be 10 feet from my neighbor's house wall (seems like a lot of the new neighborhoods are like this), but like it'd be nice if we had neighbors?  I'm torn on the idea of a HOA.  Would love to have some free range chickens.  Don't really need like more than an acre if that's what you're asking.  Could certainly do with less than a half acre lot.

Based on the things you are saying, you absolutely do NOT want an HOA.

Well like I don't want to live next to West Virginians, either.  I'm probably a libertarian, so like inherently against more rules, but can certainly see the value in some of them.
Title: Re: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: michigancat on March 08, 2013, 02:06:30 PM
Is this monument to Emo Emaw going in a neighborhood or out in the country?

Like I don't want my house wall to be 10 feet from my neighbor's house wall (seems like a lot of the new neighborhoods are like this), but like it'd be nice if we had neighbors?  I'm torn on the idea of a HOA.  Would love to have some free range chickens.  Don't really need like more than an acre if that's what you're asking.  Could certainly do with less than a half acre lot.

Based on the things you are saying, you absolutely do NOT want an HOA.

Well like I don't want to live next to West Virginians, either.  I'm probably a libertarian, so like inherently against more rules, but can certainly see the value in some of them.

good grief you're annoying
Title: Re: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 08, 2013, 02:07:04 PM
Is this monument to Emo Emaw going in a neighborhood or out in the country?

Like I don't want my house wall to be 10 feet from my neighbor's house wall (seems like a lot of the new neighborhoods are like this), but like it'd be nice if we had neighbors?  I'm torn on the idea of a HOA.  Would love to have some free range chickens.  Don't really need like more than an acre if that's what you're asking.  Could certainly do with less than a half acre lot.

Based on the things you are saying, you absolutely do NOT want an HOA.

Well like I don't want to live next to West Virginians, either.  I'm probably a libertarian, so like inherently against more rules, but can certainly see the value in some of them.

good grief you're annoying

I know, and I have to deal with me 24/7.
Title: Re: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: GCJayhawker on March 08, 2013, 02:07:24 PM
Is this monument to Emo Emaw going in a neighborhood or out in the country?

Like I don't want my house wall to be 10 feet from my neighbor's house wall (seems like a lot of the new neighborhoods are like this), but like it'd be nice if we had neighbors?  I'm torn on the idea of a HOA.  Would love to have some free range chickens.  Don't really need like more than an acre if that's what you're asking.  Could certainly do with less than a half acre lot.

Based on the things you are saying, you absolutely do NOT want an HOA.

Well like I don't want to live next to West Virginians, either.  I'm probably a libertarian, so like inherently against more rules, but can certainly see the value in some of them.

good grief you're annoying

If there is one thing you should know it is that you will very rarely be able to please Emo or SonofDax
Title: Re: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: CNS on March 08, 2013, 02:19:08 PM
the free range chickens things guarantees you will not be able to live in an HOA.  Also, free range chickens in areas not in an HOA means you will have free range dead chickens and a dog problem like immediately. 
Title: Re: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: steve dave on March 08, 2013, 02:22:12 PM
emo, buying a farm is your only option.
Title: Re: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 08, 2013, 02:23:20 PM
My buddy lives in this sweet as hipster neighborhood in Boise.  It's like nice houses, new, big, etc.  But there's like a co-op chicken coop.  Sounds pretty awesome but we don't have those here.
Title: Re: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: steve dave on March 08, 2013, 02:24:29 PM
My buddy lives in this sweet as hipster neighborhood in Boise.  It's like nice houses, new, big, etc.  But there's like a co-op chicken coop.  Sounds pretty awesome but we don't have those here.

move to boise dipshit. nobody cares about your house anymore.
Title: Re: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: michigancat on March 08, 2013, 02:25:34 PM
My buddy lives in this sweet as hipster neighborhood in Boise.  It's like nice houses, new, big, etc.  But there's like a co-op chicken coop.  Sounds pretty awesome but we don't have those here.

move to boise dipshit. nobody cares about your house anymore.

quoting before he decides he was too mean and deletes. :D
Title: Re: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 08, 2013, 02:26:04 PM
 :horrorsurprise:

 :bawl:
Title: Re: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: steve dave on March 08, 2013, 02:27:43 PM
My buddy lives in this sweet as hipster neighborhood in Boise.  It's like nice houses, new, big, etc.  But there's like a co-op chicken coop.  Sounds pretty awesome but we don't have those here.

move to boise dipshit. nobody cares about your house anymore.

quoting before he decides he was too mean and deletes. :D

nope!
Title: Re: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 08, 2013, 02:35:42 PM
Is this monument to Emo Emaw going in a neighborhood or out in the country?

Like I don't want my house wall to be 10 feet from my neighbor's house wall (seems like a lot of the new neighborhoods are like this), but like it'd be nice if we had neighbors?  I'm torn on the idea of a HOA.  Would love to have some free range chickens.  Don't really need like more than an acre if that's what you're asking.  Could certainly do with less than a half acre lot.

Based on the things you are saying, you absolutely do NOT want an HOA.

Well like I don't want to live next to West Virginians, either.  I'm probably a libertarian, so like inherently against more rules, but can certainly see the value in some of them.

I would just drive around the neighborhood before buying any house. If you can find a nice house in a nice neighborhood without having an HOA, that's better than having to pay HOA dues and then have some busybody potentially come knocking on your door about your fence height, etc. I wouldn't let the HOA be a deciding factor either way, though.
Title: Re: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: GoodForAnother on March 08, 2013, 02:40:05 PM
my sister bought chickens, but she has dogs, so now she has dead chickens
Title: Re: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: GoodForAnother on March 08, 2013, 02:40:36 PM
also you can go buy eggs at any store
Title: Re: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 08, 2013, 02:41:34 PM
my sister bought chickens, but she has dogs, so now she has dead chickens

Your sister doesn't sound all that intelligent, but sometimes smart people do dumb things, so I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt here.
Title: Re: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 08, 2013, 02:45:05 PM
my sister bought chickens, but she has dogs, so now she has dead chickens

I have dogs but they'd be kenneled or in the house.  Also they would point them, not kill them.  New pups might kill a few though whenever those come.  But chickens taste great so like no big deal.
Title: Re: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: GoodForAnother on March 08, 2013, 02:48:13 PM
my sister bought chickens, but she has dogs, so now she has dead chickens

Your sister doesn't sound all that intelligent, but sometimes smart people do dumb things, so I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt here.

she has an arch degree from ksu, so smart.  not a lot of common sense though (woman).
Title: Re: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: star seed 7 on March 08, 2013, 03:38:50 PM
why in the world would you want chickens in your backyard?   :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
Title: Re: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 08, 2013, 03:40:50 PM
Ever had farm fresh eggs?   :love:

Title: Re: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: GoodForAnother on March 08, 2013, 03:43:51 PM
I'm willing to bet that the marginal difference in taste between store eggs and fresh eggs is significantly less than the effort and embarrassment of having live rough ridin' chickens in your backyard
Title: Re: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: star seed 7 on March 08, 2013, 04:45:06 PM
I'm willing to bet that the marginal difference in taste between store eggs and fresh eggs is significantly less than the effort and embarrassment of having live rough ridin' chickens in your backyard

 :thumbs:
Title: Re: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: Brock Landers on March 08, 2013, 05:46:30 PM
You know how I know you're a hayseed?

Live chickens in your backyard.
Title: Re: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: wetwillie on March 08, 2013, 06:08:55 PM
You could probably just buy Deez Nutz farm on credit.
Title: Re: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: chunkles on March 08, 2013, 07:38:01 PM
find an architect you like and chances are you can :kstategrad: at them and they'll do like 100 designs for you free of charge, no contracts to sign, etc.  Then sit on it and go find a neighbor architect who is licensed but out of work who will draw their design up (kind of) and boom, build your crap and live there.
Title: Re: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: CNS on March 08, 2013, 07:40:10 PM
There are a thousand places online that have predesigned houses that you can buy the prints for like $100-$300.  Find one, buy it, take it to an architect and have the alter it the way you want, then ask for recommendations on things you don't know about(materials, HVAC, etc).  Then go find a builder.

Title: Re: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 08, 2013, 08:21:05 PM
I know a eff ton about materials and HVAC.  It's all the other crap though.  Thanks guys.  Will be in touch Casey.
Title: Re: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: ew2x4 on March 08, 2013, 09:10:07 PM
find an architect you like and chances are you can :kstategrad: at them and they'll do like 100 designs for you free of charge, no contracts to sign, etc.  Then sit on it and go find a neighbor architect who is licensed but out of work who will draw their design up (kind of) and boom, build your crap and live there.

Sadly, true.
Title: Re: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: Katpappy on March 08, 2013, 09:40:48 PM
find an architect you like and chances are you can :kstategrad: at them and they'll do like 100 designs for you free of charge, no contracts to sign, etc.  Then sit on it and go find a neighbor architect who is licensed but out of work who will draw their design up (kind of) and boom, build your crap and live there.
Of all the dirty, conniving things to do... where were you when I was ready to build my house.  :D
Title: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: puniraptor on March 08, 2013, 10:00:33 PM
Dichotomy of Fenestrations.
Title: Re: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: steve dave on September 27, 2013, 02:48:15 PM
If you end up hiring someone to build from scratch, let me know.  there are a few things I would recommend you discuss with the builder that would keep you from having some frustration in the future.

PM me these things please

So I noticed you never got back to me on this stuff. It's becoming increasingly important that you do.
Title: Re: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: mocat on September 27, 2013, 02:54:07 PM
i LOL'd pretty hard when i read this:

Is this monument to Emo Emaw going in a neighborhood or out in the country?

Like I don't want my house wall to be 10 feet from my neighbor's house wall (seems like a lot of the new neighborhoods are like this), but like it'd be nice if we had neighbors?  I'm torn on the idea of a HOA.  Would love to have some free range chickens.  Don't really need like more than an acre if that's what you're asking.  Could certainly do with less than a half acre lot.

Based on the things you are saying, you absolutely do NOT want an HOA.

Well like I don't want to live next to West Virginians, either.  I'm probably a libertarian, so like inherently against more rules, but can certainly see the value in some of them.

good grief you're annoying
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on September 27, 2013, 03:00:00 PM
fresh off the stud successful help steve dave finish a basement and help steve dave buy a vehicle threads we have the largest and most expensive thread yet, Help Steve Dave Build A House  :surprised:

Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 27, 2013, 03:01:52 PM
Use the deck material that doesn't need staining, whatever that is.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on September 27, 2013, 03:02:25 PM
Use the deck material that doesn't need staining, whatever that is.

yes, that is written in ink
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on September 27, 2013, 03:08:03 PM
step 1- buy a lot in mhk to build on.
step 2- who rough ridin' cares?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Pete on September 27, 2013, 03:12:22 PM
Build your house down the street from a fun bar, so no drinking and driving.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: hatingfrancisco on September 27, 2013, 03:12:34 PM
This thread is secretively elite.  Well done sirs.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Kat Kid on September 27, 2013, 03:12:46 PM
step 1- buy a lot in mhk to build on.
step 2- who rough ridin' cares?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on September 27, 2013, 03:13:23 PM
Build your house down the street from a fun bar, so no drinking and driving.

impossible, unfortunately
Title: Re: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: CNS on September 27, 2013, 03:24:04 PM
If you end up hiring someone to build from scratch, let me know.  there are a few things I would recommend you discuss with the builder that would keep you from having some frustration in the future.

PM me these things please

So I noticed you never got back to me on this stuff. It's becoming increasingly important that you do.

Oh man!

Will try to put this together.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: michigancat on September 27, 2013, 03:24:39 PM
Build your house down the street from a fun bar, so no drinking and driving.

impossible, unfortunately

It's possible. You could also build a fun bar after you build a house. Every guy would be great at running a bar and it would be lots of fun.
Title: Re: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: steve dave on September 27, 2013, 03:26:30 PM
If you end up hiring someone to build from scratch, let me know.  there are a few things I would recommend you discuss with the builder that would keep you from having some frustration in the future.

PM me these things please

So I noticed you never got back to me on this stuff. It's becoming increasingly important that you do.

Oh man!

Will try to put this together.

include an absolute ton of pro tips about everything.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Pete on September 27, 2013, 03:32:14 PM
Cool stuff I have seen in homes dudes built:

Knew a guy who had a garage bathroom with a urinal in it.  That was neat.

TV cubby hole thing on the deck, which sealed up to prevent water.

Loads of flood lights around outside of house that would turn on with alarm, and or when you catch kids tee peeing you.

Full baths for each planned kid, with tankless water heater (HS girls parent dream)

Laundry upstairs near where your clothes are actually kept



Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Pete on September 27, 2013, 03:33:20 PM
Rounded edges to all yard improvements so mower can mow everything and no weed eater is needed
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on September 27, 2013, 03:34:00 PM
good protips pete  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: raquetcat on September 27, 2013, 03:36:06 PM
Rounded edges to all yard improvements so mower can mow everything and no weed eater is needed
Pffffffft, erebody knows Steve isn't every going to do any mowing or house maintenance, LOTS OF SHARP EDGES FOR THE LANDSCAPERS TO MOW AROUND STEVE!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on September 27, 2013, 03:37:22 PM
Rounded edges to all yard improvements so mower can mow everything and no weed eater is needed
Pffffffft, erebody knows Steve isn't every going to do any mowing or house maintenance, LOTS OF SHARP EDGES FOR THE LANDSCAPERS TO MOW AROUND STEVE!

this is also true
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: star seed 7 on September 27, 2013, 03:38:57 PM
Cool stuff I have seen in homes dudes built:

Knew a guy who had a garage bathroom with a urinal in it.  That was neat.

TV cubby hole thing on the deck, which sealed up to prevent water.

Loads of flood lights around outside of house that would turn on with alarm, and or when you catch kids tee peeing you.

Full baths for each planned kid, with tankless water heater (HS girls parent dream)

Laundry upstairs near where your clothes are actually kept

parents had a washer/dryer in the basement for large stuff like blankets and crap, and a small stackable in their dressing room.  it was so boss.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: puniraptor on September 27, 2013, 03:39:27 PM
Plz post a picture of the couch you will be designing the house around.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: mocat on September 27, 2013, 03:42:12 PM
washer/dryer upstairs is dangerous because the washer can flood and ruin your whole house.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Pete on September 27, 2013, 03:43:02 PM
washer/dryer upstairs is dangerous because the washer can flood and ruin your whole house.  :dunno:

Meh
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ChiComCat on September 27, 2013, 03:45:34 PM
washer/dryer upstairs is dangerous because the washer can flood and ruin your whole house.  :dunno:

The only time washers have ever flooded is in  90s television shows when a rapscallion puts too much soap in when mom and dad are gone and he just wants to help out.

SD, if a child of yours turns out to be a rapscallion, put locks on the laundry room door
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: mocat on September 27, 2013, 03:51:33 PM
no it has nothing to do with kids.

here is a pro tip for you SD on how to avoid flooding your house from an upstairs washer

http://www.familyhandyman.com/laundry-room/avoiding-a-laundry-room-flood-in-an-upstairs-laundry-room/view-all (http://www.familyhandyman.com/laundry-room/avoiding-a-laundry-room-flood-in-an-upstairs-laundry-room/view-all)
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: AppleJack on September 27, 2013, 03:52:54 PM
2 words: DORMER WINDOWS

get at that level, SD.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: star seed 7 on September 27, 2013, 03:53:41 PM
no it has nothing to do with kids.

here is a pro tip for you SD on how to avoid flooding your house from an upstairs washer

http://www.familyhandyman.com/laundry-room/avoiding-a-laundry-room-flood-in-an-upstairs-laundry-room/view-all (http://www.familyhandyman.com/laundry-room/avoiding-a-laundry-room-flood-in-an-upstairs-laundry-room/view-all)

i trust that sd isn't poor enough to hire someone to build an upstairs laundry room without having a pan and drain.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: kim carnes on September 27, 2013, 04:00:20 PM
Location is everything
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: mocat on September 27, 2013, 04:01:59 PM
no it has nothing to do with kids.

here is a pro tip for you SD on how to avoid flooding your house from an upstairs washer

http://www.familyhandyman.com/laundry-room/avoiding-a-laundry-room-flood-in-an-upstairs-laundry-room/view-all (http://www.familyhandyman.com/laundry-room/avoiding-a-laundry-room-flood-in-an-upstairs-laundry-room/view-all)

i trust that sd isn't poor enough to hire someone to build an upstairs laundry room without having a pan and drain.

oh i'm sorry i thought this was the help SD thread not the try to prevent SD from receiving help thread
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: hemmy on September 27, 2013, 04:16:57 PM
washer/dryer upstairs is dangerous because the washer can flood and ruin your whole house.  :dunno:

As a kid our washer was on the main floor, game room in the basement. Washer leaked and water leaked through the floor and destroyed our NES & TV.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: kim carnes on September 27, 2013, 04:17:47 PM
Location location location
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: sys on September 27, 2013, 04:40:49 PM
i can't believe i missed this thread in the spring; i love chickens.


steve dave, when you build your house, put in a courtyard.  also move to somewhere where you'd use it.
Title: Re: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: CNS on September 27, 2013, 04:42:49 PM
If you end up hiring someone to build from scratch, let me know.  there are a few things I would recommend you discuss with the builder that would keep you from having some frustration in the future.

PM me these things please

So I noticed you never got back to me on this stuff. It's becoming increasingly important that you do.

Oh man!

Will try to put this together.

include an absolute ton of pro tips about everything.

Would take way too long unless you know what you are looking to build(type of siding, type of roof, type of finishes, etc). 

Can give you a few basics that you should def use to discuss though. 

Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on September 27, 2013, 04:44:25 PM
no it has nothing to do with kids.

here is a pro tip for you SD on how to avoid flooding your house from an upstairs washer

http://www.familyhandyman.com/laundry-room/avoiding-a-laundry-room-flood-in-an-upstairs-laundry-room/view-all (http://www.familyhandyman.com/laundry-room/avoiding-a-laundry-room-flood-in-an-upstairs-laundry-room/view-all)

Front loaders seal and lock shut(the good ones anyway) so if they do fail, they won't leak.  Then you can get home, hook up a hose to their manual drain valve, run it to you bathtub, and drain them. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on September 27, 2013, 04:46:11 PM
Location is everything

step 1- buy a lot in mhk to build on.
step 2- who rough ridin' cares?
Title: Re: Can someone give me the deal on building a house?
Post by: steve dave on September 27, 2013, 06:16:42 PM
Can give you a few basics that you should def use to discuss though.

two story. probably a walkout lot or at least large daylight windows. 4+ br, 3+ bath. I have no idea on siding other than not vinyl. I don't know a lot about building stuff. ask me questions so I know what to answer here because I know nothing about houses really.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: tdaver on September 27, 2013, 07:36:28 PM
Use the deck material that doesn't need staining, whatever that is.

yes, that is written in ink

Ipe - You can get it for the same price as the good synthetic stuff but looks better and lasts forever, even if you don't stain it.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: hemmy on September 27, 2013, 07:37:48 PM
Can give you a few basics that you should def use to discuss though.

two story. probably a walkout lot or at least large daylight windows. 4+ br, 3+ bath. I have no idea on siding other than not vinyl. I don't know a lot about building stuff. ask me questions so I know what to answer here because I know nothing about houses really.

Call that guy on property brothers and ask him to design you a house.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 27, 2013, 07:41:18 PM
You need a built in cabinet that has little cubbies for your guest bathroom, for all the soap/shampoo samples for when your bros stay over.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: puniraptor on September 27, 2013, 08:04:46 PM
cinder block castle is your best choice here

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.livescience.com%2Fimages%2Fi%2F000%2F055%2F678%2Fi02%2FDoomsday-Castle-family.jpg%3F1376315864&hash=0294f37b3ed86695364a787ab5ee9b38da02e456)

Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: O-town Kat on September 27, 2013, 08:41:39 PM
9 ft ceiling in basement and extra beem or whatever it is that eliminates poles in the middle of the floor.

Nows the time to wire and install surround speakers in ceiling in family or great room.

Buy your own appliances.

Gas line for stove.

Sprinkler system.  Watering in new grass sucks.

Pay a little extra for wider gas fireplace than default one.

Be onsite at start of kitchen cabinet staining so your wood stain combo doesnt get mumped up.

Default interior paint may be flat.  I like but does not wash well.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: wetwillie on September 27, 2013, 08:47:14 PM
Need to go for the best insulation money can buy for those blustery sarpy county winters.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on September 27, 2013, 08:48:50 PM
good stuff guys. keep protips coming.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Skipper44 on September 27, 2013, 08:54:40 PM
Need to go for the best insulation money can buy for those blustery sarpy county winters.
heated tile  floor in master bath  and maybe master closets
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: puniraptor on September 27, 2013, 08:55:05 PM
Stevedave make it with a flat roof and a rooftop party deck. Roof space is always wasted, don't make that mistake.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on September 27, 2013, 09:02:09 PM
one of the places we are looking at has a pool and gym but the gym is kinda stupid compared to the huge ass gym we are members of and it's about $600 a year in fees to live there for that stuff. but, our current gym is like $120 a month. worth it? do you guys with young kids think it was worth it for your kids and mine should any little daves appear at some point?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Tobias on September 27, 2013, 09:04:41 PM
one of the places we are looking at has a pool and gym but the gym is kinda stupid compared to the huge ass gym we are members of and it's about $600 a year in fees to live there for that stuff. but, our current gym is like $120 a month. worth it? do you guys with young kids think it was worth it for your kids and mine should any little daves appear at some point?

how many ellipticals?  clean?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on September 27, 2013, 09:04:55 PM
The Y is fantastic for kids.  Like, really great.  Don't know about other gyms. 

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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Skipper44 on September 27, 2013, 09:11:30 PM
Big gyms will have child care (major plus in my book).  Your small HOA gym might give you greater control over the TV and if they don't you just need to get yourself on the Gym commitee or whatever.

My wife is a bit of a germaphobe so the child care at the big gym was not full utilized when the kids were small.  How much less are comparable HOA fees for a 'hood w/o a gym?  $600 aint too bad for one with a gym by JoCo standards.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 27, 2013, 09:22:14 PM
 
one of the places we are looking at has a pool and gym but the gym is kinda stupid compared to the huge ass gym we are members of and it's about $600 a year in fees to live there for that stuff. but, our current gym is like $120 a month. worth it? do you guys with young kids think it was worth it for your kids and mine should any little daves appear at some point?

We have pool and gym.  Pool is fantastic but the tiny gym should have just been a foosball room or something.  You will keep your real gym membership.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on September 27, 2013, 09:22:29 PM
one of the places we are looking at has a pool and gym but the gym is kinda stupid compared to the huge ass gym we are members of and it's about $600 a year in fees to live there for that stuff. but, our current gym is like $120 a month. worth it? do you guys with young kids think it was worth it for your kids and mine should any little daves appear at some point?

how many ellipticals?  clean?

it's clean. small though.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on September 27, 2013, 09:23:14 PM
good input skipper and limestone
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: O-town Kat on September 27, 2013, 09:27:05 PM
Ring the doorbells at the doorbell store like a 3 yr old and then pick one.  And then ring the doorbells some more.

4' x 10' windows that are common on new builds, consider paying extra for ones that open out/vent.

We put rocker switches all over instead of toggles.   Just a different look and not much more expensive.

Had AC power outlets installed in master closet and hall closet and they get used.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 27, 2013, 09:27:30 PM
I'm serious about gym.  A neighborhood gym just isn't the same.  Your workouts will suffer.

Also, 3 car garage
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: slobber on September 27, 2013, 09:27:36 PM
Re kids: having a pool and gym close by is a big plus.

If you don't get at least a 3 car garage, I will never be your friend (because the SD I think I know deserves at least a 3 car garage.

I would probably get a north or south facing house. Direct sun in the backyard at night renders that awesome deck useless in the summer until about 10:00 pm.

Tell the builder you don't want fill dirt for the top 6 inches of your yard and landscape area. I know you don't do that work, but I am guessing you want it to look awesome. Put in good soil and you won't regret it.

Also, don't let them pour a drive way that narrows to a single entry at the street.

Hardie plank siding or brick is the way to go.

Extra wide main door frame to allow for double doors or a kickass single door with awesome effects on the side.

Don't buy or build a house that the stairs going up are the first thing you see when you walk in the front door, unless the are back from the door at least 12 feet.

Real estate can't be too expensive where you live. If you are going to raise kids at this house, get 1/2 acre or more (22,000 sq ft) for a lot.

Cul-de-sac or gtfo. (Ok, at least not a through street with the future potential of having heavy traffic.


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: slobber on September 27, 2013, 09:28:41 PM

I'm serious about gym.  A neighborhood gym just isn't the same.  Your workouts will suffer.

Also, 3 car garage
If I wouldn't have given so much awesome advice, I wouldn't have luked the 3 car garage.


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on September 27, 2013, 09:31:49 PM
I'm serious about gym.  A neighborhood gym just isn't the same.  Your workouts will suffer.

Also, 3 car garage

my workouts couldn't suffer much more than they currently do but good input. of course 3 car. I'm not some savage.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on September 27, 2013, 09:33:30 PM
Re kids: having a pool and gym close by is a big plus.

If you don't get at least a 3 car garage, I will never be your friend (because the SD I think I know deserves at least a 3 car garage.

I would probably get a north or south facing house. Direct sun in the backyard at night renders that awesome deck useless in the summer until about 10:00 pm.

Tell the builder you don't want fill dirt for the top 6 inches of your yard and landscape area. I know you don't do that work, but I am guessing you want it to look awesome. Put in good soil and you won't regret it.

Also, don't let them pour a drive way that narrows to a single entry at the street.

Hardie plank siding or brick is the way to go.

Extra wide main door frame to allow for double doors or a kickass single door with awesome effects on the side.

Don't buy or build a house that the stairs going up are the first thing you see when you walk in the front door, unless the are back from the door at least 12 feet.

Real estate can't be too expensive where you live. If you are going to raise kids at this house, get 1/2 acre or more (22,000 sq ft) for a lot.

Cul-de-sac or gtfo. (Ok, at least not a through street with the future potential of having heavy traffic.


Gonna win 'em all!

thanks dobber.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on September 27, 2013, 09:34:14 PM
Ring the doorbells at the doorbell store like a 3 yr old and then pick one.  And then ring the doorbells some more.

4' x 10' windows that are common on new builds, consider paying extra for ones that open out/vent.

We put rocker switches all over instead of toggles.   Just a different look and not much more expensive.

Had AC power outlets installed in master closet and hall closet and they get used.

hadn't even thought of any of this. thanks.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 27, 2013, 09:35:01 PM

I'm serious about gym.  A neighborhood gym just isn't the same.  Your workouts will suffer.

Also, 3 car garage
If I wouldn't have given so much awesome advice, I wouldn't have luked the 3 car garage.


Gonna win 'em all!

I have everything in your post but my lot is 19,500 and you can see stairs going up when you walk in but they are off to right.  About 10 feet from door

Also, your second floor deck should have stairs down to the patio for your walkout.  For some reason the builder of my place had them go down other side.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: kim carnes on September 27, 2013, 09:36:28 PM
there is a lot of shitty advice in this thread.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 27, 2013, 09:37:31 PM
there is a lot of shitty advice in this thread.

And now there are some more shitty posts
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on September 27, 2013, 09:38:39 PM
there is a lot of shitty advice in this thread.

give your good advice kc. I need it.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: puniraptor on September 27, 2013, 09:41:34 PM
kim post the blueprints to your house
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: kim carnes on September 27, 2013, 09:55:11 PM
kim post the blueprints to your house

they didn't have blueprints in 1927
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: slobber on September 27, 2013, 09:56:17 PM


I'm serious about gym.  A neighborhood gym just isn't the same.  Your workouts will suffer.

Also, 3 car garage
If I wouldn't have given so much awesome advice, I wouldn't have luked the 3 car garage.


Gonna win 'em all!

I have everything in your post but my lot is 19,500 and you can see stairs going up when you walk in but they are off to right.  About 10 feet from door

Also, your second floor deck should have stairs down to the patio for your walkout.  For some reason the builder of my place had them go down other side.
Congrats STUD, on your stud house.


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 27, 2013, 10:02:41 PM
kim post the blueprints to your house

they didn't have blueprints in 1927

That's like really old
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on September 27, 2013, 10:41:37 PM
this is also a good thread for people to want to architect or whatever my house or build it or whatever. I will pay the normal amount plus I'm steve dave. please consider.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: hemmy on September 27, 2013, 10:49:37 PM
My parent's house was built in the 1800s. Still going strong (interior re-built many times).
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: O-town Kat on September 27, 2013, 11:54:40 PM
You can pull off a 3 car garage on a smaller lot by making a garage 2 cars in length and deep/wide enough to put a 3rd car behind one of them.  Its just cleaner space and more logical to organize with shelves etc if storage is what you really want with a 3-car garage.  Everyone i know with an adjacent 3rd car space just piles crap in it.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ben ji on September 28, 2013, 01:27:07 AM
You can pull off a 3 car garage on a smaller lot by making a garage 2 cars in length and deep/wide enough to put a 3rd car behind one of them.  Its just cleaner space and more logical to organize with shelves etc if storage is what you really want with a 3-car garage.  Everyone i know with an adjacent 3rd car space just piles crap in it.

Imagine that, Olathe cat lives next to hoarders.  Who'd thunk?

Go cats!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: TheHamburglar on September 28, 2013, 01:38:39 AM
Whatever you preference is for a range/cooktop, still have them run gas and 220v, just incase for the future.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Kat Kid on September 28, 2013, 08:34:41 AM
If you are designing a house and you don't:
then I am going to drive up to whatever crappy omaha ex-urb you settle on and TP your house and vandalize your mailbox.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: GoodForAnother on September 28, 2013, 09:12:10 AM
heated floors in bathroom

his and hers closets

three car garage
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 28, 2013, 11:26:03 AM
I had a thought: Stained glass windows.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: WildcatNkilt on September 28, 2013, 12:01:51 PM
I'm an Entertainment space guy.  Outdoor kitchen with built in fireplace or pit is pretty boss.  Basement needs a nice bar with small wine cellar, and save one long wall for shuffleboard table.  If you put a bar in the basement, don't half ass it.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: raquetcat on September 28, 2013, 12:36:11 PM
I had a thought: Stained glass windows.
Of a Kat pak head
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on September 28, 2013, 12:36:15 PM
If you have rooms over the garage, make them use some serious amts of insulation in the garage ceiling.  Many builders use the same insulation there that they do in the walls
....like an R7 or something.  Have them blow the insulation in above the garage and fully fill the cavity the joist create.  Future SD jr will appreciate this.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on September 28, 2013, 12:41:41 PM
All exterior walls have a vapor barrier to stop condensation as the temperature changes through your walls insulation.  It Is designed to keep the water outside your wall cavity so that mold doesnt take hold of your wood studs or in your insulation. A bunch of builders put this on the inside of the studs.  It needs to go on the outside of the studs under the siding.  The first method traps the condensation in the wall, the second traps water vapor before it gets to the point of the wall where the temperature change across your insulation would cause the vapor to condense.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: j-dub on September 28, 2013, 12:42:20 PM
my uncle added on a man cave above his garage. the best part: it's only accessible by elevator from inside the house. pretty boss.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on September 28, 2013, 12:43:10 PM
can't wait to see the awesome ksu themed man cave that sd builds himself in his new house.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on September 28, 2013, 12:43:52 PM
Drip flashing on top of all door and window exterior trim.  Its code but a bunch of builders don't do it
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on September 28, 2013, 12:48:18 PM
If you have an unfinished basement,  have them seal the concrete walls and floor
  Will help keep it clean, a lot.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on September 28, 2013, 12:49:51 PM
Buy up on window quality both for sound and thermal insulation.  Huge diff  in good vs builder grade.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on September 28, 2013, 12:51:05 PM
The earlier dirt note is great. Not familiar with omaha soils quality, but I would do it if building here
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ChiComCat on September 28, 2013, 01:02:08 PM
CNS is just repeating what is on every episode of Holmes on Homes

MAKE SURE THEY VENT THE ROOF PROPERLY AND INSULATE PROPERLY UP THERE, WILL SAVE YOU A FORTUNE ON HEATING
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on September 28, 2013, 01:23:20 PM
None of it is secret, but lots of builders cut corners, even custom guys.

Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: O-town Kat on September 28, 2013, 01:33:26 PM
Ask neighbors if they hit rock when excavating their lots.  That is prob outside the cost of the build and you may have to pay out of pocket.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on September 28, 2013, 01:37:18 PM
CNS, keep this stuff coming. I have no idea what most of it means but will make the builder sign the bottom of this thread after I print it off.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: slobber on September 28, 2013, 01:37:57 PM
LED lighting throughout.


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: O-town Kat on September 28, 2013, 01:40:30 PM
Get all of this incremental upgrade crap idetified up front. You will get charged for change orders every time you change your mind on something or decide to put our great ideas in your house after you have contracted.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: kim carnes on September 28, 2013, 01:41:17 PM
None of it is secret, but lots of builders cut corners, even custom guys.

he'll pay out the nose if he hires a builder who does things "the right way"
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: O-town Kat on September 28, 2013, 01:53:15 PM
None of it is secret, but lots of builders cut corners, even custom guys.

he'll pay out the nose if he hires a builder who does things "the right way"
Yeah your lot will look like a pile of wood and dirt and energy drink cans for 8 months and then a nice house will appear.  Post pics!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 28, 2013, 01:56:14 PM
Boss workshop in basement with cable hookup to boss out on rainy days
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Boom Roasted on September 29, 2013, 08:42:13 PM
Built in hibachi grill top! Eh maybe not
Dedicated ice maker for filling up coolers etc when bros are over.
Extra deep garage spots
Dual(at least) zoned ac/heat
Screened in porch with fireplace
Steam shower
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on September 29, 2013, 09:36:06 PM
Dual HVAC is a good idea if you are building a two story that size.

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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Skipper44 on September 29, 2013, 09:57:15 PM
Dual HVAC is a good idea if you are building a two story that size.

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remember the possibility of a finished basement when  doing the hvac.   also, I  am not crazy about my heat pump -   seems like the thing will just run  for  hours in the middle cool to cold nights.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on September 29, 2013, 10:01:38 PM
Infinity

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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on September 29, 2013, 10:01:48 PM
Pool

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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: EuroCat on September 29, 2013, 10:36:57 PM
Lazy river for transit within the house?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Daddy Claxton on September 30, 2013, 09:22:32 AM
What I wish I had in my house:

Wiring, including enough electrical circuits and outlets, for all the latest tech/a-v/computer stuff;

Closets at least double current size and a closet just to put luggage in;

Laundry in master;

Dual/zoned hvac. If one unit ever goes out, there is someplace to go with a/c while you wait for repairman.

Enough space on driveway that my wife can back out even if there is another car on driveway.

Minimal carpeted areas. Gets too dirty/worn.

No skylights. They leak no matter what you do.

Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ChiComCat on September 30, 2013, 10:25:43 AM
Get those outlet covers with the built in USB for wherever you would want to charge phone/tablet.  eff finding the charger plug
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: raquetcat on September 30, 2013, 11:50:41 AM
My guess is by Thursday we see a Steve post something like this
"Thanks, but no thanks building a house is too much work"
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ChiComCat on September 30, 2013, 11:55:08 AM
Have CanCo make you up some blueprints, you'll save a fortune over an architect
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: pissclams on September 30, 2013, 12:12:43 PM
My guess is by Thursday we see a Steve post something like this
"Thanks, but no thanks building a house is too much work"

several friends from social situations who are doctors have built custom homes.  all have agreed that hiring a really good architect is key but that yes, it's still a lot of work.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on September 30, 2013, 12:13:26 PM
My guess is by Thursday we see a Steve post something like this
"Thanks, but no thanks building a house is too much work"

several friends from social situations who are doctors have built custom homes.  all have agreed that hiring a really good architect is key but that yes, it's still a lot of work.

eff
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 30, 2013, 12:14:22 PM
definitely a pool though
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: pissclams on September 30, 2013, 12:19:58 PM
My guess is by Thursday we see a Steve post something like this
"Thanks, but no thanks building a house is too much work"

several friends from social situations who are doctors have built custom homes.  all have agreed that hiring a really good architect is key but that yes, it's still a lot of work.

eff
it gets worse.  wait until a couple years after you move in and something goes wrong.  and you hire someone out to the house to fix it.  and they're like, wtf is this crap i've never seen anything like this and you're like, dunno bud. 

but still, customs are elite.  just more expensive to build and maintain.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 30, 2013, 12:29:28 PM
pretty great fanningbrag thread by sd here.  7 pages!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on September 30, 2013, 12:30:22 PM
My guess is by Thursday we see a Steve post something like this
"Thanks, but no thanks building a house is too much work"

several friends from social situations who are doctors have built custom homes.  all have agreed that hiring a really good architect is key but that yes, it's still a lot of work.

eff
it gets worse.  wait until a couple years after you move in and something goes wrong.  and you hire someone out to the house to fix it.  and they're like, wtf is this crap i've never seen anything like this and you're like, dunno bud. 

but still, customs are elite.  just more expensive to build and maintain.

That all depends on how custom you go.  I mean, you would have to get pretty high end before you would lose familiarity of the individual system types that make any given house.  Also, if you do go high custom, make sure your contract includes something called As-Built Drawings/Redline drawings.  Basically, the build will start with blue prints, these are what is supposed to be built.  As-Builts/Redline drawings are what actually gets built.  They will show actual locations of all the parts and pieces that built your house.  Changes happen.  These things will document the changes so that when something does go wrong, you can pull them out and have the info ready for the guy who needs to know what he is fixing and where it is. 

Each installing contractor will have the responsibility of providing redline drawings of their specific work.  The general contractor will gather them from the subcontractors and either turn over all the individual drawings from the individual subs to you, or could compile them on one document and give you one drawing with all the mark ups.  The latter would cost quite a bit more than the former.

Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: puniraptor on September 30, 2013, 12:31:41 PM
no interior structural walls so you can reconfigure your house whenever you want
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 30, 2013, 12:32:06 PM
My guess is by Thursday we see a Steve post something like this
"Thanks, but no thanks building a house is too much work"

several friends from social situations who are doctors have built custom homes.  all have agreed that hiring a really good architect is key but that yes, it's still a lot of work.

eff
it gets worse.  wait until a couple years after you move in and something goes wrong.  and you hire someone out to the house to fix it.  and they're like, wtf is this crap i've never seen anything like this and you're like, dunno bud. 

but still, customs are elite.  just more expensive to build and maintain.

That all depends on how custom you go.  I mean, you would have to get pretty high end before you would lose familiarity of the individual system types that make any given house.  Also, if you do go high custom, make sure your contract includes something called As-Built Drawings/Redline drawings.  Basically, the build will start with blue prints, these are what is supposed to be built.  As-Builts/Redline drawings are what actually gets built.  They will show actual locations of all the parts and pieces that built your house.  Changes happen.  These things will document the changes so that when something does go wrong, you can pull them out and have the info ready for the guy who needs to know what he is fixing and where it is. 

Each installing contractor will have the responsibility of providing redline drawings of their specific work.  The general contractor will gather them from the subcontractors and either turn over all the individual drawings from the individual subs to you, or could compile them on one document and give you one drawing with all the mark ups.  The latter would cost quite a bit more than the former.

and the workers will all crush like 30 Busch Lights and pee in your basement every day.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on September 30, 2013, 12:33:56 PM
My guess is by Thursday we see a Steve post something like this
"Thanks, but no thanks building a house is too much work"

several friends from social situations who are doctors have built custom homes.  all have agreed that hiring a really good architect is key but that yes, it's still a lot of work.

eff
it gets worse.  wait until a couple years after you move in and something goes wrong.  and you hire someone out to the house to fix it.  and they're like, wtf is this crap i've never seen anything like this and you're like, dunno bud. 

but still, customs are elite.  just more expensive to build and maintain.

That all depends on how custom you go.  I mean, you would have to get pretty high end before you would lose familiarity of the individual system types that make any given house.  Also, if you do go high custom, make sure your contract includes something called As-Built Drawings/Redline drawings.  Basically, the build will start with blue prints, these are what is supposed to be built.  As-Builts/Redline drawings are what actually gets built.  They will show actual locations of all the parts and pieces that built your house.  Changes happen.  These things will document the changes so that when something does go wrong, you can pull them out and have the info ready for the guy who needs to know what he is fixing and where it is. 

Each installing contractor will have the responsibility of providing redline drawings of their specific work.  The general contractor will gather them from the subcontractors and either turn over all the individual drawings from the individual subs to you, or could compile them on one document and give you one drawing with all the mark ups.  The latter would cost quite a bit more than the former.

and the workers will all crush like 30 Busch Lights and pee in your basement every day.

Yep, and if you address this with the general and tell him it has to stop, you will find huge pics of dongs and writings explaining how huge of an bad person you are and how much you enjoy the company of other men in closets and the basement and stuff right above notes written down for dimensions and stuff.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ChiComCat on September 30, 2013, 12:40:15 PM
no interior structural walls so you can reconfigure your house whenever you want

Get those airwalls they use in hotel banquet spaces.  Reconfigure that crap in between halves of cat's games
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: pissclams on September 30, 2013, 12:44:36 PM
My guess is by Thursday we see a Steve post something like this
"Thanks, but no thanks building a house is too much work"

several friends from social situations who are doctors have built custom homes.  all have agreed that hiring a really good architect is key but that yes, it's still a lot of work.

eff
it gets worse.  wait until a couple years after you move in and something goes wrong.  and you hire someone out to the house to fix it.  and they're like, wtf is this crap i've never seen anything like this and you're like, dunno bud. 

but still, customs are elite.  just more expensive to build and maintain.

That all depends on how custom you go.  I mean, you would have to get pretty high end before you would lose familiarity of the individual system types that make any given house.  Also, if you do go high custom, make sure your contract includes something called As-Built Drawings/Redline drawings.  Basically, the build will start with blue prints, these are what is supposed to be built.  As-Builts/Redline drawings are what actually gets built.  They will show actual locations of all the parts and pieces that built your house.  Changes happen.  These things will document the changes so that when something does go wrong, you can pull them out and have the info ready for the guy who needs to know what he is fixing and where it is. 

Each installing contractor will have the responsibility of providing redline drawings of their specific work.  The general contractor will gather them from the subcontractors and either turn over all the individual drawings from the individual subs to you, or could compile them on one document and give you one drawing with all the mark ups.  The latter would cost quite a bit more than the former.



smh.  i wasn't talking about custom homes for poors iirc.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: IPA4Me on September 30, 2013, 12:44:47 PM
We built in 2006. Customized walkout ranch from existing plan on our own lot. Five years later, we had a page long list of things we'd do different and it keeps growing. However, it's such a stressful endeavor that we probably won't do it again. Fortunately we built with that in mind. I can retire in this house.

If I built a again, I'd consider the following:

High efficiency wall and roof structure - SIP, foam, concrete. Just not standard batt and stick.

Central vacuum

Two hvac systems - we're running five zones on a three ton.

Casement windows - we have tip in vinyl. Waste of money and energy hogs.

Driveway in front of home - it comes to the side and we can't see who's in the driveway.

4th bedroom - we never use the formal dining

Tech wiring - I'd rather not use wifi for everything
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on September 30, 2013, 12:52:15 PM
thanks ipa4me
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: HerrSonntag on September 30, 2013, 01:14:08 PM
Is central vacuum really that cool?  it always seems to me like it wouldn't be any different to carry a vacuum around the house than a large vacuum hose... am I missing the point here?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: slobber on September 30, 2013, 01:19:32 PM
Is central vacuum really that cool?  it always seems to me like it wouldn't be any different to carry a vacuum around the house than a large vacuum hose... am I pissing the point here?
I am not a fan of them. I have been to too many houses where they have the central vac, but they use a regular upright.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on September 30, 2013, 01:20:15 PM
After the plumbing and electrical are in and before the sheetrock and cabinets, take a ton pictures of everything and mark which wall the picture is from.


Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: slobber on September 30, 2013, 01:23:33 PM
Put in docking stations for your mobile devices throughout the house. Make it so they can be converted easily. I was in a boss house a few weeks ago that had little ipod stations in multiple rooms so you could plug in your ipod and listen to tunes in any room. Unfortunately, not compatible with iphone 5.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: pissclams on September 30, 2013, 01:27:32 PM
Put in docking stations for your mobile devices throughout the house. Make it so they can be converted easily. I was in a boss house a few weeks ago that had little ipod stations in multiple rooms so you could plug in your ipod and listen to tunes in any room. Unfortunately, not compatible with iphone 5.

sonos tho
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: slobber on September 30, 2013, 01:29:26 PM
Put in docking stations for your mobile devices throughout the house. Make it so they can be converted easily. I was in a boss house a few weeks ago that had little ipod stations in multiple rooms so you could plug in your ipod and listen to tunes in any room. Unfortunately, not compatible with iphone 5.

sonos tho
point clams.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: puniraptor on September 30, 2013, 01:35:12 PM
no one i know with a central vacuum in their house still uses it. costly and difficult to maintain and really not that much more convenient than just a vacuum.

if pulling a vacuum around is too hard for you just get extra vacuums and put them in different parts of your house.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: IPA4Me on September 30, 2013, 01:40:16 PM
It's not the vacuum part. It's the dust that flies when using one. Centravac puts that in the garage.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Tobias on September 30, 2013, 01:41:44 PM
confession: i must be super pud because i hadn't heard of central vacuums before this :frown:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: IPA4Me on September 30, 2013, 01:42:48 PM
thanks ipa4me
You're welcome. I thought of one more big thing. No carpet. Hardwood, tile or linoleum only. We have carpet in bedrooms. Regret that decision. Baths are linoleum. Day area is hardwood.

Seven years later and we are ready to replace carpet. Hard floors are in good shape.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: pissclams on September 30, 2013, 01:45:13 PM
thanks ipa4me
You're welcome. I thought of one more big thing. No carpet. Hardwood, tile or linoleum only. We have carpet in bedrooms. Regret that decision. Baths are linoleum. Day area is hardwood.

Seven years later and we are ready to replace carpet. Hard floors are in good shape.

i would agree 100% but i love a well carpeted bathroom
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: michigancat on September 30, 2013, 01:52:33 PM
If you're building a house so big you can't handle a regular vacuum you better rough ridin' be hiring a maid before you opt for the central vacuum. what on earth
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: IPA4Me on September 30, 2013, 01:54:15 PM
You still have similar attachments. You're just putting the dirt in the garage instead of a leaky bag on wheels. It's about indoor air quality and not flinging dirt around the house. Get it?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 30, 2013, 02:02:10 PM
Research your site location carefully and see if there were indians buried there before building. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: mocat on September 30, 2013, 02:08:01 PM
You still have similar attachments. You're just putting the dirt in the garage instead of a leaky bag on wheels. It's about indoor air quality and not flinging dirt around the house. Get it?

NO WAY, GET A MAID
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: michigancat on September 30, 2013, 02:08:14 PM
I really don't get it. :don'tcare:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Tobias on September 30, 2013, 02:09:55 PM
You still have similar attachments. You're just putting the dirt in the garage instead of a leaky bag on wheels. It's about indoor air quality and not flinging dirt around the house. Get it?

sounds like a terrible waste of money and maybe more of a pain in the ass than just owning 10 vacuums
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Skipper44 on September 30, 2013, 02:11:33 PM
I like the suction deal in the baseboards some central vac systems have - just sweeping the kitchen crumbs into it seems like the most efficient way to keep the dirtiest part of the house clean.  However, vacuuming carpet with a central vac seems almost the exact opposite.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on September 30, 2013, 02:12:20 PM
My vacuum has a HEPA filter on teh exhaust.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: michigancat on September 30, 2013, 02:13:33 PM
steve dave, how far away are you wanting to build? what's wrong w/ the current house?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ChiComCat on September 30, 2013, 02:16:09 PM
My parents had a central vac.  The end result is carrying around a giant awkward hose instead of a vacuum.  Would not do.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on September 30, 2013, 02:19:54 PM
It's not the vacuum part. It's the dust that flies when using one. Centravac puts that in the garage.

IPA4me, go get a Dyson and cross that off your list.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on September 30, 2013, 02:23:09 PM
steve dave, how far away are you wanting to build? what's wrong w/ the current house?

Not very far from where we are now. It's too small.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: puniraptor on September 30, 2013, 02:23:46 PM
I like the suction deal in the baseboards some central vac systems have - just sweeping the kitchen crumbs into it seems like the most efficient way to keep the dirtiest part of the house clean. 

yeah these things are actually awesome.

not awesome enough to make a central vac worth it though.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on September 30, 2013, 02:23:58 PM
Buy the neighbor's house, keep yours, and build a covered walk way or something.

Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Skipper44 on September 30, 2013, 02:27:32 PM
Buy the neighbor's house, keep yours, and build a covered walk way or something.
no walk way needed, SD should just move in there after the baby comes
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: michigancat on September 30, 2013, 02:30:06 PM
steve dave, how far away are you wanting to build? what's wrong w/ the current house?

Not very far from where we are now. It's too small.

have you thought about keeping the house, selling some stuff, and spending what you save on baller annual vacations?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on September 30, 2013, 02:31:03 PM
Make the basement into a full master suite and do what Mich said.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: O-town Kat on September 30, 2013, 02:37:22 PM
What happens if 2 or 3 babies show up at the same time.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: michigancat on September 30, 2013, 02:38:05 PM
What happens if 2 or 3 babies show up at the same time.

I guarantee sd's not in a 2 bedroom.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on September 30, 2013, 02:46:00 PM
steve dave, how far away are you wanting to build? what's wrong w/ the current house?

Not very far from where we are now. It's too small.

have you thought about keeping the house, selling some stuff, and spending what you save on baller annual vacations?

yeah, if that had to be the trade off I would definitely stay put. luckily it's not.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: michigancat on September 30, 2013, 03:03:47 PM
Exact same price (or cheaper) for a bigger house in almost the exact same place?

hmmm
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on September 30, 2013, 03:06:31 PM
Buy the neighbor's house, keep yours, and build a covered walk way or something.

i lived in a decent lawrence ks duplex once. three bed, two bath, two car garage. 1800sq feet. it was like 130k. i had the left side. actual houses a block or two away would sell be 2400sq feet but sell for like 260k. i never really got that and always said that if i was still living there and the right side people wanted to sell then i would just buy their half and boom. 3,600 sq feet. six bedrooms, four baths, two full kitchens. thinking about it now i still can't decide if that would have been the dumbest thing in the history of the world or the smartest.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: IPA4Me on September 30, 2013, 03:12:04 PM
It's not the vacuum part. It's the dust that flies when using one. Centravac puts that in the garage.

IPA4me, go get a Dyson and cross that off your list.
I always figured they were hype. Do you have one?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 30, 2013, 03:17:24 PM
steve dave, how far away are you wanting to build? what's wrong w/ the current house?

Not very far from where we are now. It's too small.

have you thought about keeping the house, selling some stuff, and spending what you save on baller annual vacations?

yeah, if that had to be the trade off I would definitely stay put. luckily it's not.

Oh man  :D
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Catchacold on September 30, 2013, 03:22:11 PM
Buy the neighbor's house, keep yours, and build a covered walk way or something.

i lived in a decent lawrence ks duplex once. three bed, two bath, two car garage. 1800sq feet. it was like 130k. i had the left side. actual houses a block or two away would sell be 2400sq feet but sell for like 260k. i never really got that and always said that if i was still living there and the right side people wanted to sell then i would just buy their half and boom. 3,600 sq feet. six bedrooms, four baths, two full kitchens. thinking about it now i still can't decide if that would have been the dumbest thing in the history of the world or the smartest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJJwjE2TG6Q
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Skipper44 on September 30, 2013, 03:27:07 PM
Buy the neighbor's house, keep yours, and build a covered walk way or something.

i lived in a decent lawrence ks duplex once. three bed, two bath, two car garage. 1800sq feet. it was like 130k. i had the left side. actual houses a block or two away would sell be 2400sq feet but sell for like 260k. i never really got that and always said that if i was still living there and the right side people wanted to sell then i would just buy their half and boom. 3,600 sq feet. six bedrooms, four baths, two full kitchens. thinking about it now i still can't decide if that would have been the dumbest thing in the history of the world or the smartest.
My cousin lived in a duplex at ATM that was like this but 4 bedrooms IIRC.  It was pretty sweet for parties but they told me one of the kitchens would always be pretty nasty.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on September 30, 2013, 03:54:12 PM
It's not the vacuum part. It's the dust that flies when using one. Centravac puts that in the garage.

IPA4me, go get a Dyson and cross that off your list.
I always figured they were hype. Do you have one?

No hype.  They are amazing.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on September 30, 2013, 03:55:41 PM
Buy the neighbor's house, keep yours, and build a covered walk way or something.

i lived in a decent lawrence ks duplex once. three bed, two bath, two car garage. 1800sq feet. it was like 130k. i had the left side. actual houses a block or two away would sell be 2400sq feet but sell for like 260k. i never really got that and always said that if i was still living there and the right side people wanted to sell then i would just buy their half and boom. 3,600 sq feet. six bedrooms, four baths, two full kitchens. thinking about it now i still can't decide if that would have been the dumbest thing in the history of the world or the smartest.

Smartest, Rick.  Smartest.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on September 30, 2013, 04:00:58 PM
There is a guy that bought a really old house(like a 1910 four corner style) down the street from my dad.  It is two stories.  The guy added on a third story.  I can't decide if it looks stupid or awesomely unique.  I mean, is it a house that is too tall and out of proportion, or a squatty fat tower? 

Anyway, SD, you should do that.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ChiComCat on September 30, 2013, 04:23:53 PM
There is a guy that bought a really old house(like a 1910 four corner style) down the street from my dad.  It is two stories.  The guy added on a third story.  I can't decide if it looks stupid or awesomely unique.  I mean, is it a house that is too tall and out of proportion, or a squatty fat tower? 

Anyway, SD, you should do that.

Adding a story on top of a house built in 1910 sounds expensive
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on September 30, 2013, 04:27:28 PM
There is a guy that bought a really old house(like a 1910 four corner style) down the street from my dad.  It is two stories.  The guy added on a third story.  I can't decide if it looks stupid or awesomely unique.  I mean, is it a house that is too tall and out of proportion, or a squatty fat tower? 

Anyway, SD, you should do that.

Adding a story on top of a house built in 1910 sounds expensive

yeah.  They had to build a temporary working platform(like a rough looking deck) all the way around this guy's house.  Then they completely tore off the roof, built the third floor and a new roof.  Took them forever too.  They went like a month without any type of roof at all. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: IPA4Me on September 30, 2013, 04:40:06 PM
It's not the vacuum part. It's the dust that flies when using one. Centravac puts that in the garage.

IPA4me, go get a Dyson and cross that off your list.
I always figured they were hype. Do you have one?

No hype.  They are amazing.
Cool. Thanks. We need a new vacuum. I was going to install Centravac myself.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Trim on September 30, 2013, 05:35:26 PM
Have GCCPAkat's wife find you a house.  They just moved to KC and I stayed there last night.  I'd have thought they'd had the place built for themselves with how fitting it was for them.  But all they'd done was find a bunch of spots on the internet, checked into a hotel for a week and looked at them all and found the one they'd basically have built.  Then GCCPAkat more or less pulled a farmageddon tickets maneuver on the guy and moved in.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: star seed 7 on September 30, 2013, 07:20:03 PM
rusty, why are you so against other people wanting bigger houses?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: michigancat on September 30, 2013, 09:27:30 PM
rusty, why are you so against other people wanting bigger houses?

It's bad for the environment.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: sys on September 30, 2013, 09:28:57 PM
It's bad for the environment.

a half dozen kids is worse.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: michigancat on September 30, 2013, 09:38:12 PM
It's bad for the environment.

a half dozen kids is worse.

yep
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: puniraptor on September 30, 2013, 09:42:44 PM
There are tons of old empty houses just longing for a loving family. Adopt a house, daves.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on October 01, 2013, 06:15:31 AM
The area that is ideal for us because of our work commutes is pretty much all new construction anyway. We are in the fringe burbs/corn field zone.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: sys on October 01, 2013, 06:38:08 AM
The area that is ideal for us because of our work commutes is pretty much all new construction anyway. We are in the fringe burbs/corn field zone.

no mature trees?   :frown:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on October 01, 2013, 06:55:14 AM
The area that is ideal for us because of our work commutes is pretty much all new construction anyway. We are in the fringe burbs/corn field zone.

no mature trees?   :frown:

tons actually. we are the home of arbor day sys. ARBOR DAY.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on October 31, 2013, 09:54:25 AM
CNS CHECK PM!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 31, 2013, 10:07:09 AM
Let me know when you're ready to talk HVAC and other mechanical systems on this deal. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on October 31, 2013, 10:12:43 AM
Let me know when you're ready to talk HVAC and other mechanical systems on this deal.

Yes, we are getting one of those!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on October 31, 2013, 10:20:48 AM
let me know when youre ready to talk 5series for your driveway.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 31, 2013, 10:30:49 AM
let me know when youre ready to talk 5series for your snow-melted driveway.

 :drool:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: O-town Kat on October 31, 2013, 12:29:35 PM
You should lawyer up and put satellites all over the [redacted].
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on October 31, 2013, 12:41:33 PM
Let me know when you're ready to talk HVAC and other mechanical systems on this deal.

what is good HVAC for this: two story. about 2,600 sq feet plus an unfinished walkout basement that we would probably plan on finishing some day. SW facing. also what is "other mechanical systems"? like, humidifier or whatever? I think we want that because it's basically the north pole here in winter. would we need a "2 zone" like people mentioned with this amount of sq footage? seems like maybe one would be enough with this size? no idea, tho. we don't want geothermal because everyone here says it doesn't work very well for what you pay for it. maybe not enough lava under omaha or something.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: puniraptor on October 31, 2013, 12:43:23 PM
Let me know when you're ready to talk HVAC and other mechanical systems on this deal.

what is good HVAC for this: two story. about 2,600 sq feet plus an unfinished walkout basement that we would probably plan on finishing some day. SW facing. also what is "other mechanical systems"? like, humidifier or whatever? I think we want that because it's basically the north pole here in winter. would we need a "2 zone" like people mentioned with this amount of sq footage? seems like maybe one would be enough with this size? no idea, tho. we don't want geothermal because everyone here says it doesn't work very well for what you pay for it. maybe not enough lava under omaha or something.

VRF with ground source condenser
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on October 31, 2013, 12:47:50 PM
you know what i've always wanted? a house that you could ride a bicycle over. like and underground kind of house or something with grass for the roof.  :love:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on October 31, 2013, 12:49:54 PM
Let me know when you're ready to talk HVAC and other mechanical systems on this deal.

what is good HVAC for this: two story. about 2,600 sq feet plus an unfinished walkout basement that we would probably plan on finishing some day. SW facing. also what is "other mechanical systems"? like, humidifier or whatever? I think we want that because it's basically the north pole here in winter. would we need a "2 zone" like people mentioned with this amount of sq footage? seems like maybe one would be enough with this size? no idea, tho. we don't want geothermal because everyone here says it doesn't work very well for what you pay for it. maybe not enough lava under omaha or something.

im gonna recommend a 535i for this driveway. very slick ride yet still very good in the snow.

youre welcome.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on October 31, 2013, 12:55:54 PM
I would think it to be a good idea to have an upstairs zone and a downstairs zone in a two story.  That said, I am not sure how, even with two zones, that you keep your heat from rising or your cooled air sinking short of installing a door or something.

Residential HVAC is not fully in my wheelhouse
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: star seed 7 on October 31, 2013, 01:09:37 PM
I would think it to be a good idea to have an upstairs zone and a downstairs zone in a two story.  That said, I am not sure how, even with two zones, that you keep your heat from rising or your cooled air sinking short of installing a door or something.

Residential HVAC is not fully in my wheelhouse

they work together and save power on one (or i guess work one harder) when needed.  i don't believe that they are truly "independent".  parents once had a situation where the upstairs unit went out, but the downstairs was hot because the main unit was working overtime to cool the upstairs too.  upstairs was cool because it was smaller or something.  didn't make sense to me, but that's what the tech said.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Skipper44 on October 31, 2013, 01:10:40 PM
As someone living in a similar house, I wish I had a zone for each level.

My basement was finished by the previous home owner and is kind of a weird split between the 3 levels but essentially when you are down in the basement during the summer to watch a TV (the only place your wife will let you turn the volume up to an audible level so you don't wake the baby) the last thing you need is the A/C kicking on for the first floor when the basement is already 65 degrees.

Additionally, how open is the floor plan?  A loft in the 2nd story that opens to the 2 story entry will result in the unit serving the 2 floor running all summer while the unit for the 1st floor never runs. Virtually the only time our unit for the 1st floor/basement is when we have a party and fill the house with people.

Finally, consider which rooms will be the kids rooms/nursery - are they on the North or West side of the house?  Over the garage or the longest run from the furnace?  You want to be able to keep TLBSD nice and cozy on frigid NE nights.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on October 31, 2013, 01:13:45 PM
 :thumbs:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: star seed 7 on October 31, 2013, 01:23:37 PM
oh ya, SD, get a water pump so like 3 people can take showers and run the washer all at the same time.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 31, 2013, 01:34:13 PM
Couple tips:

1)  Make sure the pipe run from the water heater to the master bath is short.  Some idiots design them so the hot line snakes all over the house and hits the master bath last.  On our new house wait time for hot water is 1:45; that's about 3.2 gallons of wasted water every time to wash hands or take a shower.  Also consider insulating the hot line.  Not sure what Omaha is but KC I believe is 70/30 split between cooling and heating.  So basically you want to focus on reducing cooling load before you focus on heating load efficiency.  So take a hot water line....you pay money to heat that water, and as it sits in the line it gives it's heat to the surroundings, then you have to pay AC to get rid of it.  Pay for it twice and never get to use it.

2)  Geothermal does cash flow for you in Omaha, but don't expect to retain the investment in home value.  If you're going to live there 15 years or more you should really consider it.  Less than that and I wouldn't do it because whoever you sell to won't be impressed.

3)  I like that the basement will at first be unfinished.  Something you might consider spending extra money on now (assuming you'll finish later) is a water heater with an indirect heating function.  It's probably only a small adder to the water heater you'll buy anyway.  Then later you'll add base board heating or some other hydronic heating in the basement and you'll notice significant savings since your traditional furnace or heat pump won't be running near as much and the water is quite efficient.  My dad recently did that here in KC and estimates 30% savings during the heating months. 

4)  If you do split zones for upstairs downstairs consider a heat pump for one of them.  Then if the gas/electric cost differential gets extreme you can priority one or the other to cover more load.

5)  Get a wifi controlled thermostat from the start.

I'll think of some others. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on October 31, 2013, 02:00:46 PM
 :thumbs:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: _33 on October 31, 2013, 02:13:09 PM
Just get an old type thermostat.  I have a digital one and I have no idea how to use it.  I just push a bunch of buttons and it goes beep beep boop and I say "that should do it" but I don't really know what I did.  One time I woke up and it was 54 degrees in my house.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on October 31, 2013, 02:14:45 PM
I'm going to pull the trigger on a Nest thermostat this winter.   :gocho:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: IPA4Me on October 31, 2013, 02:32:27 PM
I'm going to pull the trigger on a Nest thermostat this winter.   :gocho:
I highly recommend you don't. I would go with a Honeywell 8000 or Prestige 2.0 with RedLink Gateway.

Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: puniraptor on October 31, 2013, 02:34:33 PM
I'm going to pull the trigger on a Nest thermostat this winter.   :gocho:
I highly recommend you don't. I would go with a Honeywell 8000 or Prestige 2.0 with RedLink Gateway.

obvious honeywell employee outed.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on October 31, 2013, 02:35:04 PM
I'm going to pull the trigger on a Nest thermostat this winter.   :gocho:
I highly recommend you don't. I would go with a Honeywell 8000 or Prestige 2.0 with RedLink Gateway.

Why?  I only know two ppl with a Nest(both love it) but what I have read on it makes it sound like it is a good choice for how I roll.  Open to other info though.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Skipper44 on October 31, 2013, 02:37:42 PM
Couple tips:

1)  Make sure the pipe run from the water heater to the master bath is short.  Some idiots design them so the hot line snakes all over the house and hits the master bath last.  On our new house wait time for hot water is 1:45; that's about 3.2 gallons of wasted water every time to wash hands or take a shower.  Also consider insulating the hot line.  Not sure what Omaha is but KC I believe is 70/30 split between cooling and heating.  So basically you want to focus on reducing cooling load before you focus on heating load efficiency.  So take a hot water line....you pay money to heat that water, and as it sits in the line it gives it's heat to the surroundings, then you have to pay AC to get rid of it.  Pay for it twice and never get to use it.


A hot water loop will reduce the wasted amount of water ever further but I would explore an on demand hot water heater for the 2nd floor baths, especially if you are going to have a 2nd floor laundry that would give you a good place to locate the heating unit.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: XocolateThundarr on October 31, 2013, 02:38:40 PM
I'm going to pull the trigger on a Nest thermostat this winter.   :gocho:
I highly recommend you don't. I would go with a Honeywell 8000 or Prestige 2.0 with RedLink Gateway.

Why?  I only know two ppl with a Nest(both love it) but what I have read on it makes it sound like it is a good choice for how I roll.  Open to other info though.

I have one and it has been awesome.  Unless you are a grandpa and don't like technology you should get one.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: IPA4Me on October 31, 2013, 02:38:44 PM
I'm going to pull the trigger on a Nest thermostat this winter.   :gocho:
I highly recommend you don't. I would go with a Honeywell 8000 or Prestige 2.0 with RedLink Gateway.

obvious honeywell employee outed.
Good try but no. I am a field service rep for major hvac equipment OEM and former contractor.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 31, 2013, 02:43:28 PM
The Nest is way more baller though, IMO.  It's like an iphone you hang on your wall.  First time my wife saw it she nearly got pregnant.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: XocolateThundarr on October 31, 2013, 02:44:02 PM
The Nest is way more baller though, IMO.  It's like an iphone you hang on your wall.  First time my wife saw it she nearly got pregnant.

Mine did...  :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: IPA4Me on October 31, 2013, 02:50:17 PM
I'm going to pull the trigger on a Nest thermostat this winter.   :gocho:
I highly recommend you don't. I would go with a Honeywell 8000 or Prestige 2.0 with RedLink Gateway.

Why?  I only know two ppl with a Nest(both love it) but what I have read on it makes it sound like it is a good choice for how I roll.  Open to other info though.
Primarily discourage it because of the sourcing of the product. Since you are buying directly from the OEM, the contractor isn't really on your side come warranty time. It is my understanding that it has to be installed by a pro.

From a functionality standpoint, I don't have any objections. It does the same thing as the Honeywell stats with similar interface (app or computer).

So, why either of the Honeywell stats? Both deliver Web interface capabilities. The 8000 doesn't need the Redlink Gateway but you get the more functionality with it. Wireless remote temperature and humidity sensing for outdoor information (not sourced from Web). My company offered lifetime warranty on our Honeywell stats. Yes. Lifetime. They're that solid.

Anyhow, that's my 2 cents.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: XocolateThundarr on October 31, 2013, 02:54:05 PM
I'm going to pull the trigger on a Nest thermostat this winter.   :gocho:
I highly recommend you don't. I would go with a Honeywell 8000 or Prestige 2.0 with RedLink Gateway.

Why?  I only know two ppl with a Nest(both love it) but what I have read on it makes it sound like it is a good choice for how I roll.  Open to other info though.
Primarily discourage it because of the sourcing of the product. Since you are buying directly from the OEM, the contractor isn't really on your side come warranty time. It is my understanding that it has to be installed by a pro.

From a functionality standpoint, I don't have any objections. It does the same thing as the Honeywell stats with similar interface (app or computer).

So, why either of the Honeywell stats? Both deliver Web interface capabilities. The 8000 doesn't need the Redlink Gateway but you get the more functionality with it. Wireless remote temperature and humidity sensing for outdoor information (not sourced from Web). My company offered lifetime warranty on our Honeywell stats. Yes. Lifetime. They're that solid.

Anyhow, that's my 2 cents.

I installed mine in about  5 minutes.  Has worked flawlessly since installation (2 years).
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 31, 2013, 02:57:18 PM
Installed mine in about 10.  IMO it's a DIY product.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: IPA4Me on October 31, 2013, 02:57:32 PM
Back to sd's house, I would roll with two systems and put zoning on the lower system. You don't want your basement to me an icebox. The possibilities for type of system are endless.

Dual Fuel. Heat pump with air handler. Multi stage or single stage ac. Modulating gas furnace. Modulating compressors (vrf that was mentioned). How much are you putting in the hvac budget?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Mr Bread on October 31, 2013, 02:58:38 PM
Yes. Lifetime. They're that solid.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: IPA4Me on October 31, 2013, 02:59:46 PM

I installed mine in about  5 minutes.  Has worked flawlessly since installation (2 years).


Installed mine in about 10.  IMO it's a DIY product.
I've made a lot of money from guys that shouldn't be attempting diy. :-D
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 31, 2013, 03:09:42 PM
Fair enough.  I'm constantly surprised at the stupidity of some people.  But then again I don't venture into the michigancat music thread and some others because I don't know anything about those things.

But if what you say is the case you should be pushing the Nest like crazy.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 31, 2013, 03:13:31 PM
I recommend foregoing the perpetuation of urban sprawl in America and finding an older home in a nice neighborhood to remodel and then have architectural publications come interview you and ask a bunch of questions and that way you can act super educated, cool and smart.

With sidebar bios about the architect and their life.



Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: _33 on October 31, 2013, 03:25:03 PM
I installed whatever you guys are talking about in 1 minute.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on October 31, 2013, 03:37:49 PM
I installed whatever you guys are talking about in 1 minute.

i just timed my six year old and he installed in 45 seconds.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on October 31, 2013, 03:40:31 PM
I installed whatever you guys are talking about in 1 minute.

i just timed my six year old and he installed in 45 seconds.

also keep in mind that the only tools he had available to him were a hammer and a butter knife.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Gooch on October 31, 2013, 03:42:38 PM
I installed whatever you guys are talking about in 1 minute.

i just timed my six year old and he installed in 45 seconds.

also keep in mind that the only tools he had available to him were a hammer and a butter knife.
I can't think of any household project that could not be completed with these two items. :dunno:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on October 31, 2013, 03:43:05 PM
Installed mine in about 10.  IMO it's a DIY product.

Between me not being a dumbass, being good with intuitive technologies, and the fact that YouTube exists, I am pretty confident that it will take me longer to walk through the hardware store and check out that it will to install.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Mr Bread on October 31, 2013, 04:50:25 PM
I installed whatever you guys are talking about in 1 minute.

i just timed my six year old and he installed in 45 seconds.

also keep in mind that the only tools he had available to him were a hammer and a butter knife.

Yeah my rough ridin' baby did it and he's a goddamned baby!  That sonofabitch is pretty handy tho.  A real Bob Vila in the making.  Looks to have excellent beard potential too. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: XocolateThundarr on October 31, 2013, 06:01:45 PM

I installed mine in about  5 minutes.  Has worked flawlessly since installation (2 years).


Installed mine in about 10.  IMO it's a DIY product.
I've made a lot of money from guys that shouldn't be attempting diy. :-D

Good for you. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: XocolateThundarr on October 31, 2013, 06:04:05 PM

I installed mine in about  5 minutes.  Has worked flawlessly since installation (2 years).


Installed mine in about 10.  IMO it's a DIY product.
I've made a lot of money from guys that shouldn't be attempting diy. :-D

Also, I have a few light bulbs that are burned out at my house.  What would you charge to come over and change them?  I would hate to incur later costs because I attempted that DIY project on my own.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on October 31, 2013, 06:26:41 PM
I recommend foregoing the perpetuation of urban sprawl in America and finding an older home in a nice neighborhood to remodel and then have architectural publications come interview you and ask a bunch of questions and that way you can act super educated, cool and smart.

With sidebar bios about the architect and their life.

would prefer this. not possible with our life/work situation. urban sprawl it is.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on October 31, 2013, 06:27:56 PM
How much are you putting in the hvac budget?

whatever the minimum is to make it cool/warm and not cost shitloads to do so.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Fedor on October 31, 2013, 06:47:54 PM


I installed mine in about  5 minutes.  Has worked flawlessly since installation (2 years).


Installed mine in about 10.  IMO it's a DIY product.
I've made a lot of money from guys that shouldn't be attempting diy. :-D

Also, I have a few light bulbs that are burned out at my house.  What would you charge to come over and change them?  I would hate to incur later costs because I attempted that DIY project on my own.
Very smart of you to ask for help on a complicated project like this.  It is actually even trickier than it sounds.  I am in my third house now after I burned down my first two with electrical fires.  "Leave it to the professionals" is my mantra now!


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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ednksu on October 31, 2013, 06:58:02 PM
Go baller and get the entire Nest home system.  Their thermostats are great.  That Honeywell 8000 looks suspiciously like the weststar energy saver thermostat they gave out and it was/is utter dog crap. 

Nests are great because they can learn you behavior and program themselves around your life. Extend that to the new Nest Protect CO/Smoke systems and you've got a baller system. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: _33 on October 31, 2013, 08:11:21 PM
Nests are great because they can learn you behavior and program themselves around your life. Extend that to the new Nest Protect CO/Smoke systems and you've got a baller system.

Next thing you know the Nest is holding you hostage inside your own home while the rest of the robots take over the world because they think know what is best for humankind.  No thanks.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: IPA4Me on October 31, 2013, 08:56:04 PM
How much are you putting in the hvac budget?

whatever the minimum is to make it cool/warm and not cost shitloads to do so.
Top floor: 15-18 SEER two stage heat pump with air handler

First Floor / Basement: 15-18 SEER two stage ac with two stage condensing gas furnace and zoning.

You can always save some money by using single stage equipment and dropping to 13 SEER efficiency. However you lose some comfort.

As far as brands go, you'll have to go with whatever your builder's subcontractor uses unless you can buy your own.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on November 01, 2013, 08:35:20 AM
Installed mine in about 10.  IMO it's a DIY product.

Between me not being a dumbass, being good with intuitive technologies, and the fact that YouTube exists, I am pretty confident that it will take me longer to walk through the hardware store and check out that it will to install.

unless you have a 10% coupon, just order it on Amazon.   Especially if you live in MO or have an address you can ship to in MO.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on November 01, 2013, 08:36:37 AM
Go baller and get the entire Nest home system.  Their thermostats are great.  That Honeywell 8000 looks suspiciously like the weststar energy saver thermostat they gave out and it was/is utter dog crap. 

Nests are great because they can learn you behavior and program themselves around your life. Extend that to the new Nest Protect CO/Smoke systems and you've got a baller system.

eff the smokes.    7 year lifetime at that price?   GFY.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 01, 2013, 09:06:57 AM
The Protect is great.  Poors steer clear tho.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on November 01, 2013, 09:21:03 AM
steve- what did you think of my bicycle on top of the house suggestion? you going to incorporate it or no?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: IPA4Me on November 01, 2013, 09:35:17 AM
Unless it reports low level CO levels, it's no better than a wired Kidde. UL2034 is a joke.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on November 01, 2013, 09:46:50 AM
guys, I'm going to #sdbrag a bit here but I'm putting a beer tap in the butler pantry countertop. probably a Summit like one of these.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thekitchenkeg.com%2Fimage%2Fcache%2Fdata%2FSBC4907BISSHVtwin_Front-500x500.jpg&hash=4b68815e01549f8b7a3148d02f37070ac16f3ebf)

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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Tobias on November 01, 2013, 09:54:49 AM
where are you installing the turntable.fm?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on November 01, 2013, 09:56:30 AM
so what like you didn't like the bicycle idea. ok then. have fun explaining that choice to little sd in five years.  :buh-bye:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Skipper44 on November 01, 2013, 09:58:20 AM
very nice SD, are you gonna do an undercounter ice maker as well? 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: mocat on November 01, 2013, 09:59:07 AM
LOL at the dumbass in here that told you to get a RWD 5-series and told you it was good in the snow. They make AWD too you know  :lol:

this fuckin guy over here  :lol:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 01, 2013, 10:00:15 AM
I have tens of thousands of dollars into my dogs.  I'm willing to spend $100 on a CO detector that can turn off my furnace so that I don't come home to very very sleepy puppies.  I can see how it's not worth it for people that don't have pets. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on November 01, 2013, 10:00:49 AM
yeah. yeah. yep that's exactly what i'm saying. he actually chose to build a house that you couldn't ride your bike on top of. well i don't know you'll have to ask him.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on November 01, 2013, 10:16:57 AM
I have tens of thousands of dollars into my dogs.  I'm willing to spend $100 on a CO detector that can turn off my furnace so that I don't come home to very very sleepy puppies.  I can see how it's not worth it for people that don't have pets.

THAT is a good feature, I didn't see where it did that.   Link?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 01, 2013, 10:27:16 AM
I have tens of thousands of dollars into my dogs.  I'm willing to spend $100 on a CO detector that can turn off my furnace so that I don't come home to very very sleepy puppies.  I can see how it's not worth it for people that don't have pets.

THAT is a good feature, I didn't see where it did that.   Link?

Works with your Nest Thermostat.
If Nest Protect’s carbon monoxide alarm goes off, your Nest Thermostat automatically turns off your gas furnace—a possible source of poisonous carbon monoxide leaks. In addition, the Nest Protect activity sensors improve the Auto-Away feature of your Nest Thermostat.

http://support.nest.com/article/Learn-how-Nest-Protect-and-Nest-Learning-Thermostat-work-together
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on November 01, 2013, 10:29:08 AM
very nice SD, are you gonna do an undercounter ice maker as well?

nope
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: IPA4Me on November 01, 2013, 10:30:23 AM
I have tens of thousands of dollars into my dogs.  I'm willing to spend $100 on a CO detector that can turn off my furnace so that I don't come home to very very sleepy puppies.  I can see how it's not worth it for people that don't have pets.
Since it will be conforming to UL2034, your dogs will be very sleepy before you get the alarm.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 01, 2013, 10:31:42 AM
Propose an alternative?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 01, 2013, 10:42:45 AM
I have tens of thousands of dollars into my dogs.  I'm willing to spend $100 on a CO detector that can turn off my furnace so that I don't come home to very very sleepy puppies.  I can see how it's not worth it for people that don't have pets.
Since it will be conforming to UL2034, your dogs will be very sleepy before you get the alarm.

What ppm does the Protest alarm at?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Johnny Wichita on November 01, 2013, 10:44:30 AM
steve- what did you think of my bicycle on top of the house suggestion? you going to incorporate it or no?

Normal house right?


(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1122.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fl531%2Frogerthegreat%2Fnormalhouseright_zpsd2bd0807.png&hash=a2372b40c9eb6ddd9e4329bde9304b9a6571de48)
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Johnny Wichita on November 01, 2013, 10:45:27 AM
steve- what did you think of my bicycle on top of the house suggestion? you going to incorporate it or no?

Normal house right?


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Nope.  Bicycle on top friendly house. 


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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 01, 2013, 10:45:41 AM
I have tens of thousands of dollars into my dogs.  I'm willing to spend $100 on a CO detector that can turn off my furnace so that I don't come home to very very sleepy puppies.  I can see how it's not worth it for people that don't have pets.
Since it will be conforming to UL2034, your dogs will be very sleepy before you get the alarm.

After some research, you're wrong.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on November 01, 2013, 10:50:45 AM
steve- what did you think of my bicycle on top of the house suggestion? you going to incorporate it or no?

Normal house right?


(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1122.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fl531%2Frogerthegreat%2Fnormalhouseright_zpsd2bd0807.png&hash=a2372b40c9eb6ddd9e4329bde9304b9a6571de48)

Nope.  Bicycle on top friendly house. 


(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1122.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fl531%2Frogerthegreat%2Fnopebicycleontophouse_zps747b51f1.png&hash=95bfafe0261399ae97fcfeceb940e894aa0583e1)

i don't know what street that house is on but you can bet your paycheck that it's located somewhere in boner city usa.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on November 01, 2013, 10:56:50 AM
SD, check PM for question due to me evidently being a Gmail dumbass.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: XocolateThundarr on November 01, 2013, 11:00:15 AM
very nice SD, are you gonna do an undercounter ice maker as well? 

My bro in law bought a Sonic ice machine for their house.  If you can swing the expense, they are awesome.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: _33 on November 01, 2013, 11:23:09 AM
We just recently bought a new refrigerator for our house that came with an ice machine attached.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on November 01, 2013, 11:35:05 AM
We just recently bought a new refrigerator for our house that came with an ice machine attached.

Nest fridge?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: IPA4Me on November 01, 2013, 11:36:20 AM
I have tens of thousands of dollars into my dogs.  I'm willing to spend $100 on a CO detector that can turn off my furnace so that I don't come home to very very sleepy puppies.  I can see how it's not worth it for people that don't have pets.
Since it will be conforming to UL2034, your dogs will be very sleepy before you get the alarm.

After some research, you're wrong.
Nope. I'm quite correct. I've been an opponent of UL2034 for some time.

https://community.nest.com/thread/2810

In order to comply, it can not alert below 70ppm.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ednksu on November 01, 2013, 12:34:31 PM
I have tens of thousands of dollars into my dogs.  I'm willing to spend $100 on a CO detector that can turn off my furnace so that I don't come home to very very sleepy puppies.  I can see how it's not worth it for people that don't have pets.
Since it will be conforming to UL2034, your dogs will be very sleepy before you get the alarm.

After some research, you're wrong.
Nope. I'm quite correct. I've been an opponent of UL2034 for some time.

https://community.nest.com/thread/2810

In order to comply, it can not alert below 70ppm.
Not sure what you're trying to get at here, but the detector should alert before his dogs are dead if we go by these (http://www.cpsc.gov/en/safety-education/safety-education-centers/carbon-monoxide-information-center/carbon-monoxide-questions-and-answers-/) numbers.



And to the person asking about shelf life its because its a CO detector. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 01, 2013, 01:11:12 PM
I have tens of thousands of dollars into my dogs.  I'm willing to spend $100 on a CO detector that can turn off my furnace so that I don't come home to very very sleepy puppies.  I can see how it's not worth it for people that don't have pets.
Since it will be conforming to UL2034, your dogs will be very sleepy before you get the alarm.

After some research, you're wrong.
Nope. I'm quite correct. I've been an opponent of UL2034 for some time.

https://community.nest.com/thread/2810

In order to comply, it can not alert below 70ppm.

70ppm is not lethal dumbass.  Most people won't even exhibit symptoms at that level.  Perhaps I should have told you I'm a world class athlete with pecs that can dance and dogs that can run to the moon and back. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: puniraptor on November 01, 2013, 01:13:10 PM
Concentration                      Symptoms

35 ppm (0.0035%) Headache and dizziness within six to eight hours of constant exposure

100 ppm (0.01%) Slight headache in two to three hours

200 ppm (0.02%) Slight headache within two to three hours; loss of judgment

400 ppm (0.04%) Frontal headache within one to two hours

800 ppm (0.08%) Dizziness, nausea, and convulsions within 45 min; insensible within 2 hours

1,600 ppm (0.16%) Headache, tachycardia, dizziness, and nausea within 20 min; death in less than 2 hours

3,200 ppm (0.32%) Headache, dizziness and nausea in five to ten minutes. Death within 30 minutes.

6,400 ppm (0.64%) Headache and dizziness in one to two minutes. Convulsions, respiratory arrest, and death in less than 20 minutes.

12,800 ppm (1.28%) Unconsciousness after 2–3 breaths. Death in less than three minutes.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: puniraptor on November 01, 2013, 01:14:08 PM
It's already established that IPA4ME is in the pocket of BIG HVAC
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on November 01, 2013, 01:15:01 PM
I wasn't really aware that thermastats and smoke alarms were that big of a deal. I was probably just going to accept whatever ones they slapped up there.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 01, 2013, 01:28:26 PM
I may have exaggerated my physical fitness.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ednksu on November 01, 2013, 02:05:11 PM
I wasn't really aware that thermastats and smoke alarms were that big of a deal. I was probably just going to accept whatever ones they slapped up there.
I would honestly look at a t-stat with an app or internet connectivity.  I think the nest is really cool because of its learning features and everyone I've heard has said they are very intuitive to use.  Most others have multiple layers of programing to work through which lead to generic programming. 

The bad thing about the Nest C0/Smoke detectors is the cost versus shelf life.  Sure they do some cool stuff, but most don't need to spend money on stuff like that.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Skipper44 on November 01, 2013, 02:06:34 PM
I wasn't really aware that thermastats and smoke alarms were that big of a deal. I was probably just going to accept whatever ones they slapped up there.
If you are at all interested in the Nest thermostats, try to make sure the contractor installs the standard ones in a good place where the Nest motion detector will work well(kitchen/hearth on 1st floor - somewhere in the master bedroom or hallway that you will walk by when you are upstairs). 

My thermostats are in the formal dining room :confused: and on a wall that the door to my master bedroom door blocks unless we are asleep :bang:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: IPA4Me on November 01, 2013, 03:35:46 PM
I have tens of thousands of dollars into my dogs.  I'm willing to spend $100 on a CO detector that can turn off my furnace so that I don't come home to very very sleepy puppies.  I can see how it's not worth it for people that don't have pets.
Since it will be conforming to UL2034, your dogs will be very sleepy before you get the alarm.

After some research, you're wrong.
Nope. I'm quite correct. I've been an opponent of UL2034 for some time.

https://community.nest.com/thread/2810

In order to comply, it can not alert below 70ppm.

70ppm is not lethal dumbass.  Most people won't even exhibit symptoms at that level.  Perhaps I should have told you I'm a world class athlete with pecs that can dance and dogs that can run to the moon and back.
But it is lethal at long exposures. You seem like a smart dude. Do some research into low level CO monitoring and low level exposures. Let's not clog this thread. Feel free to drop me a PM.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: IPA4Me on November 01, 2013, 03:37:08 PM
It's already established that IPA4ME is in the pocket of BIG HVAC
Big HVAC is perfectly happy with UL2034. I'm not. :-)
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 01, 2013, 03:38:12 PM
I have tens of thousands of dollars into my dogs.  I'm willing to spend $100 on a CO detector that can turn off my furnace so that I don't come home to very very sleepy puppies.  I can see how it's not worth it for people that don't have pets.
Since it will be conforming to UL2034, your dogs will be very sleepy before you get the alarm.

After some research, you're wrong.
Nope. I'm quite correct. I've been an opponent of UL2034 for some time.

https://community.nest.com/thread/2810

In order to comply, it can not alert below 70ppm.

70ppm is not lethal dumbass.  Most people won't even exhibit symptoms at that level.  Perhaps I should have told you I'm a world class athlete with pecs that can dance and dogs that can run to the moon and back.
But it is lethal at long exposures. You seem like a smart dude. Do some research into low level CO monitoring and low level exposures. Let's not clog this thread. Feel free to drop me a PM.

Ok you could have like 3 or 4 Protects and one cheapie low level and you're covered.  Your assertion that 70ppm would kill a dog is flat out wrong.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: IPA4Me on November 01, 2013, 03:38:38 PM
I may have exaggerated my physical fitness.
:-P Didn't Al Gore invent the Internet for bragging?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on November 01, 2013, 03:38:48 PM
below are some "is it worth the cost" questions for you pros:

decking material: cedar or composite?

part of house that's not rock: stucco or siding?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: star seed 7 on November 01, 2013, 03:39:19 PM
sounds like we've got a big HVAC whistleblower on our hands guys. :whistle1:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: puniraptor on November 01, 2013, 03:39:55 PM
I may have exaggerated my physical fitness.
:-P Didn't Al Gore invent the Internet for bragging?

the important thing is that your dogs are still certified for lunar transit
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: IPA4Me on November 01, 2013, 03:42:57 PM
sounds like we've got a big HVAC whistleblower on our hands guys. :whistle1:
I've spent too much time learning from these guys. http://www.stopcarbonmonoxide.com
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on November 01, 2013, 03:51:22 PM
welp, this thread just got me to drop $206 on 6 new fire/smoke/CO deteectors for the casa.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Skipper44 on November 01, 2013, 03:51:30 PM
below are some "is it worth the cost" questions for you pros:

decking material: cedar or composite?
How much more is the composite?  I only have it for a couple steps down to a patio but it has held better than the rough cedar that forms the pergola above said patio and hasn't needed staining.

Quote
part of house that's not rock: stucco or siding?
What do the rest of the homes in the development have?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on November 01, 2013, 03:53:05 PM
below are some "is it worth the cost" questions for you pros:

decking material: cedar or composite?

part of house that's not rock: stucco or siding?

the idea of composite is nice now that they've workied out the kinks, but i still couldn't make myself spend the money.   I'd go redwood if you want to leave natural, or treated structure and planks with cedar trim if you are okay with a semi or solid stain.

and cement board siding over stucco in this climate.  and if by stucco you really mean EIFS, then even more so.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: raquetcat on November 01, 2013, 03:59:02 PM
below are some "is it worth the cost" questions for you pros:

decking material: cedar or composite?

part of house that's not rock: stucco or siding?
I don't know what the price difference is, but my deck has composite and it's awesome, doesn't fade (quickly), don't ever have to worry about getting splinters, never worry about lil raquetcat getting splinters, and it feels super elite on my bare feet when grilling
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ednksu on November 01, 2013, 04:03:27 PM
composite.  new crap with the uv protected outer coating, solid core.  edge screw the crap out of it.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ednksu on November 04, 2013, 09:17:52 PM
when you get your garage door installed, ditch the metal rollers and go with a nylon or urethane wheeled roller, ESPECIALLY if you have a living space over your garage.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: sys on November 05, 2013, 12:51:53 AM
siding looks like crap.  stucco can look ok, but it normally looks like crap.  to have it look good costs more and it's more prone to cracking.

if i was building a house from scratch i wouldn't use either.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Tobias on November 05, 2013, 12:55:14 AM
when you get your garage door installed, ditch the metal rollers and go with a nylon or urethane wheeled roller, ESPECIALLY if you have a living space over your garage.

this is something i have honestly never considered in my life
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on November 05, 2013, 07:15:00 AM
siding looks like crap.  stucco can look ok, but it normally looks like crap.  to have it look good costs more and it's more prone to cracking.

if i was building a house from scratch i wouldn't use either.

what would you use sys?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on November 05, 2013, 07:15:35 AM
when you get your garage door installed, ditch the metal rollers and go with a nylon or urethane wheeled roller, ESPECIALLY if you have a living space over your garage.

there are probably a billion stud protips like this that I would have no idea were even a thing. ty for this one.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on November 05, 2013, 07:18:25 AM
below are some "is it worth the cost" questions for you pros:

decking material: cedar or composite?
How much more is the composite?  I only have it for a couple steps down to a patio but it has held better than the rough cedar that forms the pergola above said patio and hasn't needed staining.

Quote
part of house that's not rock: stucco or siding?
What do the rest of the homes in the development have?

the composite is about $8 more per sq ft and we are currently working with a 14x14 deck and about 20 steps. deck will be covered if that matters in the decision.

homes in the area are a mix of the two and some with all brick exteriors. we don't want to pay to brick the entire thing. we will have rock on the front only.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: slobber on November 05, 2013, 08:25:53 AM
Composite or wood would be a tough call for me. I would probably end up choosing composite. If you go wood, make certain to have somebody stain and/or seal it at least every other year. It will last a lot longer if you do that.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: sys on November 05, 2013, 08:48:36 AM
siding looks like crap.  stucco can look ok, but it normally looks like crap.  to have it look good costs more and it's more prone to cracking.

if i was building a house from scratch i wouldn't use either.

what would you use sys?

i probably wouldn't build a stick frame house.  if i did, i dunno what i'd use.  brick or stone look good, but that's expensive.  smooth stucco finishes look good, maybe cement fiber panels if the seams can be smoothed over.  maybe blocks if that's cheaper than brick or stone.

i don't really know the alternatives.  i'd probably just say eff it go smooth stucco if nothing else could be found.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: pissclams on November 05, 2013, 09:30:02 AM
i imagine sys living in a clay hut with a thatch roof on the side of the sierras in southern spain
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Skipper44 on November 05, 2013, 10:08:45 AM
below are some "is it worth the cost" questions for you pros:

decking material: cedar or composite?
How much more is the composite?  I only have it for a couple steps down to a patio but it has held better than the rough cedar that forms the pergola above said patio and hasn't needed staining.

Quote
part of house that's not rock: stucco or siding?
What do the rest of the homes in the development have?

the composite is about $8 more per sq ft and we are currently working with a 14x14 deck and about 20 steps. deck will be covered if that matters in the decision.

homes in the area are a mix of the two and some with all brick exteriors. we don't want to pay to brick the entire thing. we will have rock on the front only.
If you don't think siding will be much of a negative on resale and you are neutral on the aesthetic difference I would go siding. 

As Mikey stated above, stucco can have issues and you will generally get a manufacturers warranty on siding that you don't get with stucco.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: 8manpick on November 05, 2013, 10:25:46 AM
Have you considered cinder block siding?  It's been all the rage as of late.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Tobias on November 05, 2013, 10:29:07 AM
Have you considered cinder block siding?  It's been all the rage as of late.

cardboard box flooring in the kitchen! :love:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Skipper44 on November 05, 2013, 10:33:27 AM
Have you considered cinder block siding?  It's been all the rage as of late.
gotta have chain link to complete the look
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: _33 on November 05, 2013, 10:50:33 AM
when you get your garage door installed, ditch the metal rollers and go with a nylon or urethane wheeled roller, ESPECIALLY if you have a living space over your garage.

there are probably a billion stud protips like this that I would have no idea were even a thing. ty for this one.

SD, some tips on garage door openers:  don't get a chain drive, they are loud and have a lot of moving parts which lead to failure.  Screw drive openers are also loud but have much fewer moving parts and thus last forever.  Belt drive openers are very quiet but like chain have more moving parts and thus can require repairs.  Also the belt can stretch and will need replaced at some point.

If power and durability are your main concern go with the screw drive.  But if noise is a major factor then belt drive may be for you.  Just some tips from _33 about garage doors.  (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ft1.gstatic.com%2Fimages%3Fq%3Dtbn%3AANd9GcTHu4x-fj5pryBx3pg2lKeBe5QVvmWgXPU0nyGClCN_ReD2M-BM&hash=040a35ac678987856e4c072399af2b472037a9de)
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ChiComCat on November 05, 2013, 10:52:39 AM
Get one of those garage openers that opens via phone.  Who has time to eff with a garage opener
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on November 05, 2013, 10:54:19 AM
Get one of those garage openers that opens via phone.  Who has time to eff with a garage opener

my sled has the opener deal built in
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ChiComCat on November 05, 2013, 11:05:21 AM
Get one of those garage openers that opens via phone.  Who has time to eff with a garage opener

my sled has the opener deal built in

I guess my issue is specific to me and my condo.  No interior garage access so I either go to a keypad that doesn't work well or hit a button my phone which is always with me.  Probably not an issue for you unless you build your house stupid
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: pissclams on November 05, 2013, 12:23:59 PM
what style are you going with?  [house]
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on November 05, 2013, 12:38:19 PM
what style are you going with?  [house]

I don't know anything about home styles. two story. walkout. 3 car. just a regular house I guess. nothing fancy. cns, what would you call it? neuvo omahaian?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on November 05, 2013, 12:41:56 PM
Two story is right.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Tobias on November 05, 2013, 12:48:04 PM
just do all-brick since you're going to die in that house
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on November 05, 2013, 12:50:39 PM
just do all-brick since you're going to die in that house

am I dying?  :frown:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: XocolateThundarr on November 05, 2013, 12:50:48 PM
just do all-brick since you're going to die in that house

in that case make sure it is an ICF house too
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: pissclams on November 05, 2013, 12:52:51 PM
what style are you going with?  [house]

I don't know anything about home styles. two story. walkout. 3 car. just a regular house I guess. nothing fancy. cns, what would you call it? neuvo omahaian?

http://www.bhg.com/home-improvement/exteriors/curb-appeal/house-styles/

there's some styles
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: pissclams on November 05, 2013, 12:53:09 PM
just do all-brick since you're going to die in that house

am I dying?  :frown:

i think he's saying you might get murdered in it
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Tobias on November 05, 2013, 01:05:16 PM
just do all-brick since you're going to die in that house

am I dying?  :frown:

i think he's saying you might get murdered in it

let's just say in the race of steve dave vs LHC Bill Snyder, my money's on KSU football
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on November 06, 2013, 07:45:09 AM
when you get your garage door installed, ditch the metal rollers and go with a nylon or urethane wheeled roller, ESPECIALLY if you have a living space over your garage.

there are probably a billion stud protips like this that I would have no idea were even a thing. ty for this one.

SD, some tips on garage door openers:  don't get a chain drive, they are loud and have a lot of moving parts which lead to failure.  Screw drive openers are also loud but have much fewer moving parts and thus last forever.  Belt drive openers are very quiet but like chain have more moving parts and thus can require repairs.  Also the belt can stretch and will need replaced at some point.

If power and durability are your main concern go with the screw drive.  But if noise is a major factor then belt drive may be for you.  Just some tips from _33 about garage doors.  (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ft1.gstatic.com%2Fimages%3Fq%3Dtbn%3AANd9GcTHu4x-fj5pryBx3pg2lKeBe5QVvmWgXPU0nyGClCN_ReD2M-BM&hash=040a35ac678987856e4c072399af2b472037a9de)

 :thumbs:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on November 06, 2013, 07:48:50 AM
ok, I have two builders who will build me essentially the same house. one has built hundreds of homes and has a really fancy office and nice hi-tech presentation and whatnot. the other one is a small builder with none of that and only builds 1 or 2 houses at any one time. so we've got more personal small time guy and large experienced guy who will be building 10 other places at the same time. knowing nothing about house quality other than what stuff looks like I can't see a difference between either of their past houses. which would be better based soley on those factors?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Boom Roasted on November 06, 2013, 07:53:37 AM
ok, I have two builders who will build me essentially the same house. one has built hundreds of homes and has a really fancy office and nice hi-tech presentation and whatnot. the other one is a small builder with none of that and only builds 1 or 2 houses at any one time. so we've got more personal small time guy and large experienced guy who will be building 10 other places at the same time. knowing nothing about house quality other than what stuff looks like I can't see a difference between either of their past houses. which would be better based soley on those factors?
Small time guy.  You will have access to the smartest and most experienced guy there instead of some random guy the big builder puts on your house.  The guy that is out on his own was probably a foreman or something for a big builder at one point and was good enough and smart enough to go out on his own.  Easy access to decision makers is always nice and he probably takes more pride in his projects.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on November 06, 2013, 07:56:22 AM
Depends. Small guy makes you think he spends more time w you but in reality, with only two going at once he prob spend quite a bit of time chasing the next house. Ask him what his Back log looks like.

Big guy may have separate staff that chase the next house rather than building yours. But he may be spreading his management thin meaning cut corners or mistakes by subs. 

Both are pretty hard to quantify without talking to their past customers a little.

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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: pissclams on November 06, 2013, 09:14:54 AM
is there a medium guy available in the omaha area? 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on November 06, 2013, 09:17:07 AM
is there a medium guy available in the omaha area?

yeah, but we've narrowed it to these two
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on November 06, 2013, 09:18:59 AM
I would lean to the smaller guy too.  Your satisfaction has more direct effect on his biz than the bigger guy.  Still would ask how many houses he has lined up to build and try to talk to his customers to see if he was on time, what about their new house disappoints them or frustrates them, how close to budget he was able to stay, etc.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on November 06, 2013, 09:22:07 AM
I would lean to the smaller guy too.  Your satisfaction has more direct effect on his biz than the bigger guy.  Still would ask how many houses he has lined up to build

they are finishing one now (should be done in december) and are then are going to dig 3 more before permafrost kicks in (plus ours if we go with them).
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Tobias on November 06, 2013, 09:23:24 AM
is there a medium guy available in the omaha area? 

not right now, but a year from now we'll get a post about how sd ended up going with him
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on November 06, 2013, 10:37:33 AM
I would lean to the smaller guy too.  Your satisfaction has more direct effect on his biz than the bigger guy.  Still would ask how many houses he has lined up to build and try to talk to his customers to see if he was on time, what about their new house disappoints them or frustrates them, how close to budget he was able to stay, etc.

and definitely talk to people who built mopre than 1 year ago to see how he handled warranty issues, both within the 1yr and beyond.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ChiComCat on November 06, 2013, 11:09:56 AM
Get references, use those to decide
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Fedor on November 06, 2013, 11:14:31 AM
Builders likely use same subs, big guy gets them first cause he will give them more work in the future.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on November 06, 2013, 11:38:55 AM
Builders likely use same subs, big guy gets them first cause he will give them more work in the future.

commercial this is true, my expierience in residential looking in from the outside is the opposite.   Subs often work exclusive for one builder, as he either gives them all his work or they are afraid of losing his work if the go to others.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ednksu on November 06, 2013, 12:28:12 PM
I assume by builder you mean a general contractor? 

I would first start out by asking what aspects he will directly be handling in the build if anything at all. I would then ask about his subcontractors and how long he has had relationships with them.  If one of them is working through reputable companies in the area versus one guy with a crew of day labor, that should tell you which crew to do with.  It seems to me most GC sub out a lot of work.  So its best to know who is actually doing the work for you in your home. 


One random thought, make sure you are using time tested products and subs.  My parents have very noisy plumbing because the sub used an odd mounting bracket for the pipes instead of tried and true methods.  Another though, stay away from first gen tech, especially if its in walls.  For instance when PEX first came out there were a lot of issues with pinhole leaks and bad fittings. 

Has it been suggested to wire everything and anything you might need with network cable and coax?  You might check with your electrical sub, but this could be something you could do and it would save a crap load.  But check with the contractor because i've heard of it being a code issue or instances of d-bag subs who cuts lines because they didn't install them.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on November 06, 2013, 12:40:27 PM
I assume by builder you mean a general contractor? 

I would first start out by asking what aspects he will directly be handling in the build if anything at all. I would then ask about his subcontractors and how long he has had relationships with them.  If one of them is working through reputable companies in the area versus one guy with a crew of day labor, that should tell you which crew to do with.  It seems to me most GC sub out a lot of work.  So its best to know who is actually doing the work for you in your home. 


One random thought, make sure you are using time tested products and subs.  My parents have very noisy plumbing because the sub used an odd mounting bracket for the pipes instead of tried and true methods.  Another though, stay away from first gen tech, especially if its in walls.  For instance when PEX first came out there were a lot of issues with pinhole leaks and bad fittings. 

Has it been suggested to wire everything and anything you might need with network cable and coax?  You might check with your electrical sub, but this could be something you could do and it would save a crap load.  But check with the contractor because i've heard of it being a code issue or instances of d-bag subs who cuts lines because they didn't install them.

I don't know what the difference between a builder and a contractor is I guess. the ones we are down to call themselves "katpak custom home builders", "katpak jones custom homes", etc. so I carry their vernacular over. I'm not doing crap on my own for this thing. screwing in a lightbulb is not something I plan on saving money by doing. have you seen some of my home improvement/project threads? rough ridin' disastors all of them.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ednksu on November 06, 2013, 12:45:23 PM
So you work through a builder, but the builder will hire a subcontractor to do major sections of the home ie: electrical, plumbing, framing, drywall.
http://www.buildahouseyourself.com/subcontractors-defined


So the point of my suggestion also follows that if both builders use "AAA Omaha Electrical" it can be another point of comparison.  If both builders are using the same guys to build stuff and one is higher than the other, ask why.  You'd want to make sure all your subs know what they are doing.  Hiring a bunch of day labor from home depot will keep costs down, but your work will be in jeopardy and god forbid anything happens on site.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on November 06, 2013, 12:47:27 PM
 :thumbs:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: star seed 7 on November 06, 2013, 12:55:23 PM
small guy probably cares more about quality than big guy, but might possibly be slower as well.  experience doesn't mean much.  after you've built a few houses, it's all pretty much the same after that.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on November 06, 2013, 01:13:56 PM
steve, you came with a question and wanted answers, not the rough ridin' pros and cons of each builder. i mean, we all know the difference between big business and small business.

go with the small guy because its your house. quality and working with someone (i assume your wife will really value this part) closely is important.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on November 06, 2013, 07:18:02 PM
we picked the smaller one  :D waiting to see if they accept our terms  :ohno:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on November 06, 2013, 07:25:15 PM
Tell them the bigger guy accepted the but you would rather work with him.

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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Tobias on November 06, 2013, 08:11:55 PM
you should've waited for small business weekend and put it on your Amex sd
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: pissclams on November 06, 2013, 09:17:50 PM
you should've waited for small business weekend and put it on your Amex sd

wanted to charge a car, they wouldn't let me
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on November 06, 2013, 09:19:22 PM
Who's they? Card or dealership? I have family that do this every time they buy a car.

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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 06, 2013, 10:14:08 PM
Pay in cash, under the table
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: pissclams on November 07, 2013, 07:36:50 AM
Who's they? Card or dealership? I have family that do this every time they buy a car.

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car.  they limited it to $5K.  they're smart not to, card expenses eat into their profits, which aren't that much to begin with when dealing with a  smart buyer.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on November 07, 2013, 08:13:27 AM
sd, fireplace or no fireplace? i have one but never used it until last night and had to look up the owners manual online to figure it out. it worked really well though and was kind of cool/fun. i would consider something like this if you are having one put in.

http://www.quadrafire.com/Products/7100-Wood-Fireplace.aspx

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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on November 07, 2013, 08:41:03 AM
ok, man. nice talk. i mean do the fireplace or don't do the fireplace. either way, after this and the no response to my suggestion of being able to ride a bike on top, i'm pretty much finished with this whole thread anyway and doubt i'll ever check back in. good luck with things.  :flush:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on November 07, 2013, 08:42:13 AM
we are doing a gas fireplace but if it was up to me we would do no fireplace at all. mrs. dave likes them for some reason. I'd rather just fire up the furnace or throw some wood on a pile out back and sit around it.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on November 07, 2013, 09:01:33 AM
we are doing a gas fireplace but if it was up to me we would do no fireplace at all. mrs. dave likes them for some reason. I'd rather just fire up the furnace or throw some wood on a pile out back and sit around it.

that's cool. what about a swimming pool though? you guys should probably get one and then during cws, mrs sd could go somewhere else like to her sisters or something and then you could host katpak cws pool conventions/parties.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on November 07, 2013, 09:06:51 AM
we are doing a gas fireplace but if it was up to me we would do no fireplace at all. mrs. dave likes them for some reason. I'd rather just fire up the furnace or throw some wood on a pile out back and sit around it.

that's cool. what about a swimming pool though? you guys should probably get one and then during cws, mrs sd could go somewhere else like to her sisters or something and then you could host katpak cws pool conventions/parties.

neighborhood pool about 50 yards away  :gocho:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on November 07, 2013, 09:09:07 AM
we are doing a gas fireplace but if it was up to me we would do no fireplace at all. mrs. dave likes them for some reason. I'd rather just fire up the furnace or throw some wood on a pile out back and sit around it.

that's cool. what about a swimming pool though? you guys should probably get one and then during cws, mrs sd could go somewhere else like to her sisters or something and then you could host katpak cws pool conventions/parties.

neighborhood pool about 50 yards away  :gocho:

@pete better start getting his little speakers and music ready. looks like we have another pool to take over.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on November 07, 2013, 10:08:20 AM
we picked the smaller one  :D waiting to see if they accept our terms  :ohno:

congrats, steve! whens the house warming party??
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Pete on November 07, 2013, 10:08:57 AM
we are doing a gas fireplace but if it was up to me we would do no fireplace at all. mrs. dave likes them for some reason. I'd rather just fire up the furnace or throw some wood on a pile out back and sit around it.

that's cool. what about a swimming pool though? you guys should probably get one and then during cws, mrs sd could go somewhere else like to her sisters or something and then you could host katpak cws pool conventions/parties.

neighborhood pool about 50 yards away  :gocho:

@pete better start getting his little speakers and music ready. looks like we have another pool to take over.

Steve Dave, what is your favorite NWA song?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 07, 2013, 10:35:54 AM
Hey steve dave be weary of "builder's grade" paint in some areas.  Use good crap in bathrooms (Kilz) and other high traffic areas. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 07, 2013, 10:37:19 AM
Hey steve dave be weary of "builder's grade" paint in some areas.  Use good crap in bathrooms (Kilz) and other high traffic areas.

Also, just rough ridin' tile from the top of your showers/baths to the ceiling.  Don't put paint there. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on November 07, 2013, 11:36:44 AM
Hey steve dave be weary of "builder's grade" paint in some areas.  Use good crap in bathrooms (Kilz) and other high traffic areas.

Also, just rough ridin' tile from the top of your showers/baths to the ceiling.  Don't put paint there.

Honestly, this should be code.  Stupid to do just paint, regardless of the grade.

As far as cheap vs expensive paint, the biggest issues is actually thickness of coat.  Many painters do as thin of a coat as possible and usually only one.  They tint their primer so that if it shows through it isn't very obvious.   It isn't an issue if you are like I am in that the first thing you do in a house is completely change the color basically every where and then do it all again every few years.

Also, don't get flat paint.  they will say it is easier to clean and touch up, but my personal experience says that is rough ridin' stupid.  Get a satin finish.  Not horribly glossy, cleans easy, and I have never had much issue touching up.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: puniraptor on November 07, 2013, 12:45:35 PM
oh get a teak shower floor

i always think thats awesome
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: pissclams on November 07, 2013, 12:50:34 PM
gross
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: star seed 7 on November 07, 2013, 12:52:18 PM
we are doing a gas fireplace but if it was up to me we would do no fireplace at all. mrs. dave likes them for some reason. I'd rather just fire up the furnace or throw some wood on a pile out back and sit around it.

that's cool. what about a swimming pool though? you guys should probably get one and then during cws, mrs sd could go somewhere else like to her sisters or something and then you could host katpak cws pool conventions/parties.

neighborhood pool about 50 yards away  :gocho:

@pete better start getting his little speakers and music ready. looks like we have another pool to take over.

Steve Dave, what is your favorite NWA song?

I hope he says gangsta gangsta  :crossfingers:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on November 07, 2013, 12:54:43 PM
we are doing a gas fireplace but if it was up to me we would do no fireplace at all. mrs. dave likes them for some reason. I'd rather just fire up the furnace or throw some wood on a pile out back and sit around it.

that's cool. what about a swimming pool though? you guys should probably get one and then during cws, mrs sd could go somewhere else like to her sisters or something and then you could host katpak cws pool conventions/parties.

neighborhood pool about 50 yards away  :gocho:

@pete better start getting his little speakers and music ready. looks like we have another pool to take over.

Steve Dave, what is your favorite NWA song?

lol at my vivid flashbak of you saying "oh crap, that's NWA" and jumping out of the pool and sprinting over to the speakers and then just shooting the crap with that old guy that asked us to turn it down about 5 times.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on November 08, 2013, 07:29:15 PM
just agreed to terms with the smaller builder  :excited:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Pete on November 08, 2013, 08:02:47 PM
just agreed to terms with the smaller builder  :excited:

Spit into your hand?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on November 08, 2013, 08:06:13 PM
just agreed to terms with the smaller builder  :excited:

Spit into your hand?

not yet  :ohno:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on November 08, 2013, 08:06:34 PM
That's great

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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Pete on November 08, 2013, 08:12:11 PM
just agreed to terms with the smaller builder  :excited:

Spit into your hand?

not yet  :ohno:

Mennonites are always the right choice, they dispense with the formalities.  My parents used them to build their cabin, and my best friend from HS has a wonderful experience with them building his big new place.  I figure they have to be pretty much the same in NE.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Cartierfor3 on November 08, 2013, 08:14:00 PM
You gonna spell KSU in bricks or something?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on November 08, 2013, 08:33:33 PM
just agreed to terms with the smaller builder  :excited:

Spit into your hand?

not yet  :ohno:

Mennonites are always the right choice, they dispense with the formalities.  My parents used them to build their cabin, and my best friend from HS has a wonderful experience with them building his big new place.  I figure they have to be pretty much the same in NE.

my parents built an enormous addition to our house growing up and used them. it was great, they just charge by the hour and you supply the materials or whatever but instead of sneaking back and finding them trashed on busch light they are actually hitting nails with hammers and crap.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on November 12, 2013, 07:42:58 AM
OK, the house is going to face SSW (annoying curvy neighborhood). The deck is going to be facing NNE on the "right" corner of the house. There is a window from the eat in kitchen area on the SWW side the deck and a sliding glass door on the SSW side of the deck. We have included in the build the deck being covered by extending the roof over it or whatever. Is that a bad idea give the direction the house faces? I'm worried it will block all the natural light getting into the kitchen. It will for sure block the sun getting into that eat in kitchen area window. I'm also worried it will block a lot of light getting into the kitchen windows perpendicular to the one that looks onto the deck. It would also save us about $5k to not cover the deck. But, I like covered decks a lot. THOUGHTS?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on November 12, 2013, 07:48:31 AM
Can you flip the house to make the layout a mirror image of itself(what was on right is now on left)?

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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on November 12, 2013, 07:51:20 AM
Can you flip the house to make the layout a mirror image of itself(what was on right is now on left)?

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I don't think so, but I'll ask. seems like they told me it had to be like that for some reason.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on November 12, 2013, 07:52:09 AM
Probably do your driveway is not immediately opposite the guy across the street.

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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on November 12, 2013, 07:53:34 AM
If it was me, I would still cover the deck.  That said, I love being on my deck during bad weather as well as July and August. 

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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: slobber on November 12, 2013, 08:03:36 AM
sd, this is important. Plant trees and shrubs in your front yard now. You will want some wind protection ASAP.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: pissclams on November 12, 2013, 08:23:32 AM
also drop the sliding glass door, those are only found in ghettos.  french door for your deck is correct choice.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on November 12, 2013, 08:26:22 AM
also drop the sliding glass door, those are only found in ghettos.  french door for your deck is correct choice.

can't, would have preferred it but it opens directly to the butler's pantry area and it would open across the lane of traffic and be weird. it would be cheaper for a regular door or two as well.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: pissclams on November 12, 2013, 08:27:54 AM
eff THIS crap   :curse:

omg the headaches are just beginning!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on November 12, 2013, 08:33:04 AM
here is that area coming in from the garage. that little square is the undercabinet keg cooler and the tap will be drilled up through the granite or whatever. if we had the regular door(s) they would open and bust someone in the ass who's pouring beer or block the walkway to the bathroom or something.

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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: pissclams on November 12, 2013, 08:41:18 AM
the undercabinet keg cooler seems worth it though.  are you extending the refrigeration across and under the wine bar area?  put wine, beer bottles, water, soda in it?

Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: pissclams on November 12, 2013, 08:42:00 AM
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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on November 12, 2013, 08:43:25 AM
the undercabinet keg cooler seems worth it though.  are you extending the refrigeration across and under the wine bar area?  put wine, beer bottles, water, soda in it?

yep, one on each side of the litle bar sink. then glass front cabinets above it for glasses. will clear out the kitchen cabinets/fridge of all my booze related stuff.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: pissclams on November 12, 2013, 08:48:40 AM
the undercabinet keg cooler seems worth it though.  are you extending the refrigeration across and under the wine bar area?  put wine, beer bottles, water, soda in it?

yep, one on each side of the litle bar sink. then glass front cabinets above it for glasses. will clear out the kitchen cabinets/fridge of all my booze related stuff.

that's going to be nice.  the pic i linked was sub z's that run +$2k but there are others that don't cost near as much.  big thing to look for is front exhaust.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on November 12, 2013, 08:51:56 AM
the undercabinet keg cooler seems worth it though.  are you extending the refrigeration across and under the wine bar area?  put wine, beer bottles, water, soda in it?

yep, one on each side of the litle bar sink. then glass front cabinets above it for glasses. will clear out the kitchen cabinets/fridge of all my booze related stuff.

that's going to be nice.  the pic i linked was sub z's that run +$2k but there are others that don't cost near as much.  big thing to look for is front exhaust.

good protip. I think the keg cooler/tap/CO2 setup will be about $1,500 but I'm hoping to get a cheaper glass front cooler for the other side. I want them to match though. I think Summit is the manufacturer of the keg system so I'll see what they have with front vent for the other side.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: pissclams on November 12, 2013, 09:20:08 AM
when i shopped for wine coolers i was told to find one with front exhaust, b/c otherwise the trapped heat can cause undue wear on the compressor.  seemed legit imo.

Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on November 12, 2013, 09:32:34 AM
OK, the house is going to face SSW (annoying curvy neighborhood). The deck is going to be facing NNE on the "right" corner of the house. There is a window from the eat in kitchen area on the SWW side the deck and a sliding glass door on the SSW side of the deck. We have included in the build the deck being covered by extending the roof over it or whatever. Is that a bad idea give the direction the house faces? I'm worried it will block all the natural light getting into the kitchen. It will for sure block the sun getting into that eat in kitchen area window. I'm also worried it will block a lot of light getting into the kitchen windows perpendicular to the one that looks onto the deck. It would also save us about $5k to not cover the deck. But, I like covered decks a lot. THOUGHTS?

SD, My covered deck is right off of my eat in area that is facing mostly east.  It doesn't make the kitchen area dark at all, but it does block most direct light other than first thing in the morning when it shines like a laser pointer directly into the kitchen and into my eyes while I am cooking breakfast this time of year like I am a helicopter pilot over Tahir Square.

I still have quite a few plants in that area of my kitchen and they receive plenty of light.

Also, the question about effecting the sun in the windows perpendicular to the deck all depends on how high the cover roof is on the deck, imo.  I have windows that are similarly perpendicular to my covered deck that are about 5'-6' away and I never notice a shadow from the deck roof.   

That all said, I am probably 20-30degrees off from you more toward the east from what it sounds like.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on November 12, 2013, 09:40:49 AM
when i shopped for wine coolers i was told to find one with front exhaust, b/c otherwise the trapped heat can cause undue wear on the compressor.  seemed legit imo.

same brand as the keg cooler. seems like it would be good with dual thermostats for like bottles and cans on one side and wine on the other?

http://www.designerappliances.com/summit-swbv3067.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=product_search&utm_campaign=ca&CAWELAID=172000410000008012&catargetid=172000410000058925&cadevice=c&"cagpspn=pla"&gclid=CO-r9LXK37oCFaZcMgod7X0A3w
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Skipper44 on November 12, 2013, 11:00:40 AM
If you are really concerned about a lack of light in your kitchen, consider a pergola.  I have one over my patio and it is nice for the ability to mount ceiling fans, speakers and a tv. 

The obvious down side is the area would not be rain proof so you would have to have a weatherproof box for the TV or just have a mounting set up that makes it easy to bring (that is what I do). 

And since you have a walkout, I would look into what it would take to make the area below the deck dry so you could also have an outdoor room there that would be useable in almost any weather.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Fedor on November 12, 2013, 11:04:52 AM
here is that area coming in from the garage. that little square is the undercabinet keg cooler and the tap will be drilled up through the granite or whatever. if we had the regular door(s) they would open and bust someone in the ass who's pouring beer or block the walkway to the bathroom or something.

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Pocket door?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on November 12, 2013, 11:10:21 AM
SD, do not do a pocket door for an exterior door.  I didn't go back and read, but iirc, you described that door as exterior.   Do not want.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Skipper44 on November 12, 2013, 11:13:22 AM
What would be the down side to French Doors that swing out?  I guess having the hinges on the outside of the house is kind of a security issue.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on November 12, 2013, 11:14:43 AM
Swinging two doors onto a normal sized deck is a bad idea if you plan to have a table, chairs, grill, etc on that deck. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 12, 2013, 11:17:06 AM
Revolving door FTW.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Skipper44 on November 12, 2013, 11:21:16 AM
Swinging two doors onto a normal sized deck is a bad idea if you plan to have a table, chairs, grill, etc on that deck.
From the pic SD posted, it doesn't appear there will be much in the area with what appears to be a wall to the top and the stairs to the bottom of the drawing.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Fedor on November 12, 2013, 11:51:59 AM
SD, do not do a pocket door for an exterior door.  I didn't go back and read, but iirc, you described that door as exterior.   Do not want.
Ooh, gross!  I agree, somehow I missed that it was exterior.

The obvious answer is a roller man door.

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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: IPA4Me on November 12, 2013, 01:58:15 PM
All of a sudden I have no desire to build again. I hated all these little decisions. Every. Frickin. Day. For. Six. Months.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: slobber on November 12, 2013, 03:15:40 PM
sd, I don't think anyone has said, this, but if you want to go full out elite and impress the eff out of everyone, install only LED's for lights. You won't have to call anyone to change a bulb for something like 20 years, they don't produce any heat, and it is smoother light than anything else you can use.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: raquetcat on November 12, 2013, 09:40:34 PM
All of a sudden I have no desire to build again. I hated all these little decisions. Every. Frickin. Day. For. Six. Months.
Worth it, now that it's done?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: IPA4Me on November 13, 2013, 09:02:07 AM
All of a sudden I have no desire to build again. I hated all these little decisions. Every. Frickin. Day. For. Six. Months.
Worth it, now that it's done?
I think so. It's nice to have things our way. Once was enough though.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on November 19, 2013, 08:25:02 AM
got permits and blueprints and junk!  :Woot:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Johnny Wichita on November 19, 2013, 08:31:41 AM
got permits and blueprints and junk!  :Woot:

It is a bad idea all together.  Shut it down. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: O-town Kat on November 19, 2013, 08:33:33 AM
Permit staked on lot or it didnt happen
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on November 19, 2013, 08:37:17 AM
was no one going to ask sd why he has a "mud room" with lockers?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: puniraptor on November 19, 2013, 08:42:15 AM
POST THE BLUEPRINTS, SD
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: puniraptor on November 19, 2013, 08:43:12 AM
was no one going to ask sd why he has a "mud room" with lockers?

i assumed locker was omahan for closet
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on November 19, 2013, 08:46:28 AM
this thing built yet? i wanna party.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on November 19, 2013, 08:51:22 AM
was no one going to ask sd why he has a "mud room" with lockers?

he said he's on board with the kid thing now.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: slobber on November 19, 2013, 09:19:33 AM
I assumed that it was a give and take thing with Mrs. sd. He wanted the kegerator and bar area, she wanted kids and a mud room with lockers. Good marriage involves give and take. :cheers:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: slobber on November 19, 2013, 09:20:51 AM
Also, I just thought about sd actually needing/using a mudroom and I  :lol:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on November 19, 2013, 09:22:35 AM
prefinished or sand and stain on site hardwood?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on November 19, 2013, 09:30:16 AM
Not much of a hardwood floor guy, but I would assume a finished on site floor would give you more consistency in color and in smoothness.

Ask which has better longevity.  The prefinished may have some coating or something on it that a onsite finish wouldn't.  Could make the finish more scratch resistant or something and keep you from having to refinish as soon as you may have to with the onsite finished floor. 

Just spit balling here.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Tobias on November 19, 2013, 09:30:55 AM
sand and stain makes it seem like people are actually working so i'd do that
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on November 19, 2013, 09:32:17 AM
sand and stain makes it seem like people are actually working so i'd do that

Dusty AF, though. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on November 19, 2013, 09:42:30 AM
Also, I just thought about sd actually needing/using a mudroom and I  :lol:

those were my thoughts exactly katdaddy. the guy doesn't even mow his own yard. mudroom? yeah right.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: pissclams on November 19, 2013, 09:46:20 AM
Not much of a hardwood floor guy, but I would assume a finished on site floor would give you more consistency in color and in smoothness.

Ask which has better longevity.  The prefinished may have some coating or something on it that a onsite finish wouldn't.  Could make the finish more scratch resistant or something and keep you from having to refinish as soon as you may have to with the onsite finished floor. 

Just spit balling here.

not a hardwood guy?  carpet is disgusting.  i mean, what?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 19, 2013, 09:51:12 AM
Hey SD, I'm really digging my new insulated garage this time of year.  Wasn't sure I would. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on November 19, 2013, 09:57:49 AM
Not much of a hardwood floor guy, but I would assume a finished on site floor would give you more consistency in color and in smoothness.

Ask which has better longevity.  The prefinished may have some coating or something on it that a onsite finish wouldn't.  Could make the finish more scratch resistant or something and keep you from having to refinish as soon as you may have to with the onsite finished floor. 

Just spit balling here.

not a hardwood guy?  carpet is disgusting.  i mean, what?

I clean my carpet often.  Hardwood is loud and cold.  Carpet is quiet, comfortable, and warm. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Skipper44 on November 19, 2013, 10:03:10 AM
Hey SD, I'm really digging my new insulated garage this time of year.  Wasn't sure I would.
Assuming you are talking about an attached garage, do you have hvac supply/return lines to the garage?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: pissclams on November 19, 2013, 10:04:12 AM
carpet is gross.  if you're not man enough to handle hardwoods then buy some rugs.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on November 19, 2013, 10:06:25 AM
Look at this 'Clams guy telling me to get hardwood then cover it with mobile carpet(rugs). 

 :lol:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: pissclams on November 19, 2013, 10:15:02 AM
hmm, let me lay down on this beautiful carpet filled with an incredible amount of dangerous microbes.  and underneath it, the pad. yes the carpet pad- a fungus laden petri dish better belonging in the laboratory rather than the living room. 

^what you've witnessed above is a view into life at the CNS Casey bacterial growth plate
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 19, 2013, 10:16:29 AM
Hey SD, I'm really digging my new insulated garage this time of year.  Wasn't sure I would.
Assuming you are talking about an attached garage, do you have hvac supply/return lines to the garage?

Attached, correct.  It's not heated/cooled (yet) but it stays quite mild no matter the outside temp.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on November 19, 2013, 10:22:55 AM
"alright. i just got in from slopping the pigs and taking a trip out to the back 40 to check on things. gonna go get cleaned up a bit in the mud room and then we can head over to jims house in papillon for the creighton game."

i mean give me a break here.  :lol:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on November 19, 2013, 10:23:36 AM
Yeah, I know.  I imagine the carpet has helped build up my immune system.  I rarely get sick.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: slobber on November 19, 2013, 10:29:22 AM
"alright. i just got in from slopping the pigs and taking a trip out to the back 40 to check on things. gonna go get cleaned up a bit in the mud room and then we can head over to jims house in papillon for the creighton game."

i mean give me a break here.  :lol:
:lol:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 19, 2013, 10:30:36 AM
"alright. i just got in from slopping the pigs and taking a trip out to the back 40 to check on things. gonna go get cleaned up a bit in the mud room and then we can head over to jims house in papillon for the creighton game."

i mean give me a break here.  :lol:

I doubt the HOA in his new development would allow hogs.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: pissclams on November 19, 2013, 10:53:08 AM
"alright. i just got in from slopping the pigs and taking a trip out to the back 40 to check on things. gonna go get cleaned up a bit in the mud room and then we can head over to jims house in papillon for the creighton game."

i mean give me a break here.  :lol:

:lol:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: star seed 7 on November 19, 2013, 11:00:11 AM
Sand and finish on site and get at least 3/4" thick planks so you can refinish in the future.

Also carpet is super gross... What the hell CNS?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on November 19, 2013, 11:04:24 AM
Sand and finish on site and get at least 3/4" thick planks so you can refinish in the future.

Also carpet is super gross... What the hell CNS?

It is comfy, makes the house quieter, it is warm(aesthetically), it is soft, I don't have to worry about kids scratching wood floors, and I have elite wood beam coffer ceilings and am worried that wood floors with that ceiling would be way too Cabin'ey.  If loving carpet is wrong, I don't want to be right.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 19, 2013, 11:38:33 AM
I like carpet in some places, but wood in some places.  Both can be the right answer.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on November 19, 2013, 05:06:05 PM
prefinished or sand and stain on site hardwood?

since you won't be in occupancy on site finishing is the way to go.   Oil based is more durable but will yellow over time. Water based is faster, but not as durable.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on November 19, 2013, 05:07:49 PM
I miss the wood floors at our old house.    But I'd miss the money to rip out the carpet and put down hardwood even more.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: IPA4Me on November 19, 2013, 06:10:52 PM
prefinished or sand and stain on site hardwood?
Sand and stain on site. Our maple floors look great after seven years of raising kids and a dog. Still wish we would have put them in the bedrooms too.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ednksu on November 19, 2013, 07:08:31 PM
Sand and finish on site and get at least 3/4" thick planks so you can refinish in the future.

Also carpet is super gross... What the hell CNS?

It is comfy, makes the house quieter, it is warm(aesthetically), it is soft, I don't have to worry about kids scratching wood floors, and I have elite wood beam coffer ceilings and am worried that wood floors with that ceiling would be way too Cabin'ey.  If loving carpet is wrong, I don't want to be right.
plank width and color goes a long way
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Tobias on December 03, 2013, 12:13:25 PM
all settled in yet or what? :tappingfootguy:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on December 03, 2013, 03:05:39 PM
all settled in yet or what? :tappingfootguy:

getting ready to break ground  :Woot: Probably won't be moving in until June/July.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Tobias on December 03, 2013, 03:12:12 PM
all settled in yet or what? :tappingfootguy:

getting ready to break ground  :Woot: Probably won't be moving in until June/July.

just think of how many busch diesels you're gonna pound with those bros this spring when you stop by the jobsite after work :excited:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 03, 2013, 03:14:51 PM
just think of the katcwspak you can host if you are in the new place by then.  :eek:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 03, 2013, 03:17:04 PM
try not to imagine the thousands of gallons of piss the workers will leave in and around the house.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Tobias on December 03, 2013, 03:17:27 PM
just think of the katcwspak you can host if you are in the new place by then.  :eek:

i've got the north facing locker in the mudroom, and don't try to pull rank or anything
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 03, 2013, 03:18:20 PM
just think of the katcwspak you can host if you are in the new place by then.  :eek:

i've got the north facing locker in the mudroom, and don't try to pull rank or anything

don't even care. going to just pitch a tent in the front yard and cwspak all night.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: jmlynch1 on December 03, 2013, 03:20:17 PM
Did you decide on a pool?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 03, 2013, 03:20:43 PM
just think of the katcwspak you can host if you are in the new place by then.  :eek:

i've got the north facing locker in the mudroom, and don't try to pull rank or anything

don't even care. going to just pitch a tent in the front yard and cwspak all night.

This. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: _33 on December 03, 2013, 03:22:58 PM
Did you make a decision on type of garage door opener?  #teambelt
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on December 03, 2013, 03:23:32 PM
Did you decide on a pool?

neighborhood has a community pool, playground, gym and clubhouse about 50 yards away. there is a walking trail behind our house that goes right up to it.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on December 03, 2013, 03:23:52 PM
Did you make a decision on type of garage door opener?  #teambelt

not yet!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: star seed 7 on December 03, 2013, 03:26:32 PM
Did you decide on a pool?

neighborhood has a community pool, playground, gym and clubhouse about 50 yards away. there is a walking trail behind our house that goes right up to it.

no monorail?  get out of the 1300's omaha!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on December 03, 2013, 03:28:23 PM
what's going to be at the clubhouse from 12-3 this sunday? santa's workshop and a real life reindeer of course. hot choc, cookies, pictures with santa for the kids (AND BIG KIDS!  ;) ). they said we could come since we had purchased the lot even though we haven't moved in yet.  :Woohoo:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 03, 2013, 03:30:08 PM
just think of the katcwspak you can host if you are in the new place by then.  :eek:

i've got the north facing locker in the mudroom, and don't try to pull rank or anything

don't even care. going to just pitch a tent in the front yard and cwspak all night.

This.

keg w/ red cups or just pound a bunch of natty light twelvers all night?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: pissclams on December 03, 2013, 03:33:04 PM
what's going to be at the clubhouse from 12-3 this sunday? santa's workshop and a real life reindeer of course. hot choc, cookies, pictures with santa for the kids (AND BIG KIDS!  ;) ). they said we could come since we had purchased the lot even though we haven't moved in yet.  :Woohoo:

get binged, climb on and ride reindeer
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on December 03, 2013, 03:34:42 PM
First thing you should do is get on that HOA's ass about spending money so frivolously.   :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on December 03, 2013, 03:48:06 PM
what's going to be at the clubhouse from 12-3 this sunday? santa's workshop and a real life reindeer of course. hot choc, cookies, pictures with santa for the kids (AND BIG KIDS!  ;) ). they said we could come since we had purchased the lot even though we haven't moved in yet.  :Woohoo:

boss move on getting you "in" the HOA already.   Prepare yourself for all the letters in the mail about the weeds and debris on the lot during construction.     :'bye cruel world:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on December 04, 2013, 06:26:06 PM
Are they going to come out with a 3rd gen Nest thermostat in the next 6 months or should I go ahead and buy the 2nd gen now with the $40 amazon credit?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: pissclams on December 04, 2013, 06:56:07 PM
the next one will be out in 7 months, so no, you're safe
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: kim carnes on December 04, 2013, 07:05:24 PM
Did you decide on a pool?

neighborhood has a community pool, playground, gym and clubhouse about 50 yards away. there is a walking trail behind our house that goes right up to it.

you live in the leawood of omaha.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ednksu on December 04, 2013, 10:17:06 PM
Did you make a decision on type of garage door opener?  #teambelt

not yet!
did we discuss the liftmaster 8500 series?  Jack shaft liter, zomg quite.  baller money tho....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhkoL61_SwQ
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Boom Roasted on December 05, 2013, 07:44:49 AM
just think of the katcwspak you can host if you are in the new place by then.  :eek:

i've got the north facing locker in the mudroom, and don't try to pull rank or anything

don't even care. going to just pitch a tent in the front yard and cwspak all night.

This.

keg w/ red cups or just pound a bunch of natty light twelvers all night?
Sounds amazing, I'll bring the Busch Light 30's
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: michigancat on December 05, 2013, 10:36:25 AM
Did you decide on a pool?

neighborhood has a community pool, playground, gym and clubhouse about 50 yards away. there is a walking trail behind our house that goes right up to it.

you live in the leawood of omaha.

he wishes
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on December 13, 2013, 09:16:29 PM
clams:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvRSsiW_fy4
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: IPA4Me on December 15, 2013, 06:06:10 AM
Sweet tub.

Have they broken ground?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: pissclams on December 15, 2013, 07:06:50 PM
clams:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvRSsiW_fy4
from one tub nerd to another, you made a great choice.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on December 15, 2013, 07:13:29 PM

Sweet tub.

Have they broken ground?

Just did. Late May is currently the moving target completion date.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: meow meow on December 15, 2013, 07:16:16 PM
Steve Dave and mrs Dave are going to have baths together and there won't be any knobs hitting their backs.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: star seed 7 on December 15, 2013, 07:23:49 PM
Steve Dave and mrs Dave are going to have baths together and there won't be any knobs hitting their backs.

depends on where mrs dave is sitting  :eek: /katdaddy
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Emo EMAW on December 16, 2013, 09:37:12 AM
Steve Dave and mrs Dave are going to have baths together and there won't be any knobs hitting their backs.

depends on where mrs dave is sitting  :eek: /katdaddy

Someone get sd a snorkel as a housewarming.  :fatty:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on December 17, 2013, 05:37:19 PM
fun fact: my 3 year old son was born in a tub exactly like that.

water births are so beautiful.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: pissclams on December 17, 2013, 05:45:30 PM
indeed, nothing quite as beautiful as a placental expulsion into a tub of standing water.  it almost looks like a rose as it sits in suspended animation.
/thread
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: KCFDcat on December 17, 2013, 06:18:59 PM
 :sdeek: :sdeek: :sdeek: :sdeek: :sdeek: :sdeek: :sdeek: :sdeek: :sdeek: :sdeek:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 17, 2013, 07:25:39 PM
indeed, nothing quite as beautiful as a placental expulsion into a tub of standing water.  it almost looks like a rose as it sits in suspended animation.
/thread

Raise your hand if you already knew clams was an OBGYN.  :raises hand:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: WonderMeal on December 17, 2013, 11:53:33 PM
indeed, nothing quite as beautiful as a placental expulsion into a tub of standing water.  it almost looks like a rose as it sits in suspended animation.
/thread

Actually, the placenta is typically expelled with the mom/baby resting in the bed.
 :peek:

Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: pissclams on December 18, 2013, 08:32:18 AM
sure thing, ace.  no. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on December 18, 2013, 08:36:57 AM
yeah it was pretty bloody but it was also my first little bundle of joy. cant take that moment away from me.

anyways, steve dave, what im trying to say is that this tub has been through some crap. it can definitely handle your new house. i say go for it. :thumbs:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Tobias on January 13, 2014, 03:55:44 PM
google just bought nest for $3.2B
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 13, 2014, 04:04:20 PM
google just bought nest for $3.2B

welp, Nest about to suck
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: TheCatFanSpeaks on January 13, 2014, 04:10:31 PM
well crap.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ShellShock on January 13, 2014, 04:22:05 PM
Are they going to come out with a 3rd gen Nest thermostat in the next 6 months or should I go ahead and buy the 2nd gen now with the $40 amazon credit?

Don't buy that piece of garbage. Do yourself a favor and go get the top of the line Honeywell or even an EcoBee. Honeywell definitely being the top choice though. It's going to run you $300-$400, but it's money well spent if you're building a new house. Tons more options and will play nice with every type of hvac system. The Honeywell one also can interface with lighting, landscape, garage door, alarm systems and such.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: puniraptor on January 13, 2014, 04:26:40 PM
ShellShock is obviously in the pocket of BIG HVAC
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ShellShock on January 13, 2014, 04:35:17 PM
ShellShock is obviously in the pocket of BIG HVAC

I do alot of BIG HVAC. For as young as I am, the things that i've designed and the places that i've done work at would make many people blush...

EDIT: Not meaning to toot my own horn and sound like an bad person, I just want to let SD know that I know what i'm talking about with thermostats, temp sensors, whole house BAS, etc. You're in good hands SD.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 13, 2014, 04:42:49 PM
SD let me try to root out if he's legit right here...

ShellShock what's your preferred network protocol for residential applications and why?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: pissclams on January 13, 2014, 05:23:48 PM
ShellShock is obviously in the pocket of BIG HVAC

I do alot of BIG HVAC. For as young as I am, the things that i've designed and the places that i've done work at would make many people blush...

EDIT: Not meaning to toot my own horn and sound like an bad person, I just want to let SD know that I know what i'm talking about with thermostats, temp sensors, whole house BAS, etc. You're in good hands SD.

i don't mean to toot your horn either but when you called the next a piece of garbage you made yourself sound like a complete mongloid. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ShellShock on January 13, 2014, 05:44:22 PM
SD let me try to root out if he's legit right here...

ShellShock what's your preferred network protocol for residential applications and why?

 :facepalm:

There are residential automation systems out there but it's tough to justify the cost of doing that for 99% of people. If SD has the money to spend, I would suggest putting in a home automation system.

The actual protocol of most systems now a days on the commercial hvac side of things is BACnet, followed by LON if you're old school. This is just the 1's and 0's of the components. You'll still need a front end to interface with all of it. TRANE, Honeywell, York, etc all have those types of applications, but you'll have to adapt the commercial ones for your house. I know that wattstopper and lutron have lighting system controls that will also control other hvac and house stuff. So it all depends on what you want in the end in your house.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ShellShock on January 13, 2014, 05:46:30 PM
ShellShock is obviously in the pocket of BIG HVAC

I do alot of BIG HVAC. For as young as I am, the things that i've designed and the places that i've done work at would make many people blush...

EDIT: Not meaning to toot my own horn and sound like an bad person, I just want to let SD know that I know what i'm talking about with thermostats, temp sensors, whole house BAS, etc. You're in good hands SD.

i don't mean to toot your horn either but when you called the next Nest a piece of garbage you made yourself sound like a complete mongloid.

I'm curious as to your thoughts on why the Nest isn't a complete piece of garbage? Btw, FYP above.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: pissclams on January 13, 2014, 06:18:22 PM
SD let me try to root out if he's legit right here...

ShellShock what's your preferred network protocol for residential applications and why?

 :facepalm:

There are residential automation systems out there but it's tough to justify the cost of doing that for 99% of people. If SD has the money to spend, I would suggest putting in a home automation system.

The actual protocol of most systems now a days on the commercial hvac side of things is BACnet, followed by LON if you're old school. This is just the 1's and 0's of the components. You'll still need a front end to interface with all of it. TRANE, Honeywell, York, etc all have those types of applications, but you'll have to adapt the commercial ones for your house. I know that wattstopper and lutron have lighting system controls that will also control other hvac and house stuff. So it all depends on what you want in the end in your house.

look at this rough ridin' mongloid.  knows a lot about ac units.  and proud of it too.  :flush:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: sys on January 13, 2014, 06:26:25 PM
hey shellshock, my father's in-floor heating tube system had some cheap plastic part bust (maybe a fan or something, dunno, didn't pay too much attention) and it caused the whole thing to tear itself apart (motor, computer, etc).  cost like $600, or maybe $1000.  he was real pissed about it.  maybe you should let your friends at big hvac know so they improve the quality of the plastic part.

if you need the name of the part, i can get him to tell the story again and i'll pay attention this time.  he loves to tell the story.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ShellShock on January 13, 2014, 06:54:37 PM
hey shellshock, my father's in-floor heating tube system had some cheap plastic part bust (maybe a fan or something, dunno, didn't pay too much attention) and it caused the whole thing to tear itself apart (motor, computer, etc).  cost like $600, or maybe $1000.  he was real pissed about it.  maybe you should let your friends at big hvac know so they improve the quality of the plastic part.

if you need the name of the part, i can get him to tell the story again and i'll pay attention this time.  he loves to tell the story.

I'm curious about what brand it was? A huge problem with in-floor heating is that it doesn't get installed right the majority of the time.

...still confused how/why there was a fan and/or computer attached to the system though...maybe you don't have all the information?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ShellShock on January 13, 2014, 06:55:42 PM
SD let me try to root out if he's legit right here...

ShellShock what's your preferred network protocol for residential applications and why?

 :facepalm:

There are residential automation systems out there but it's tough to justify the cost of doing that for 99% of people. If SD has the money to spend, I would suggest putting in a home automation system.

The actual protocol of most systems now a days on the commercial hvac side of things is BACnet, followed by LON if you're old school. This is just the 1's and 0's of the components. You'll still need a front end to interface with all of it. TRANE, Honeywell, York, etc all have those types of applications, but you'll have to adapt the commercial ones for your house. I know that wattstopper and lutron have lighting system controls that will also control other hvac and house stuff. So it all depends on what you want in the end in your house.

look at this rough ridin' mongloid.  knows a lot about ac units.  and proud of it too.  :flush:

look at this rough ridin' mongloid. knows nothing about ac unts. and proud of it too.  :flush:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: sys on January 13, 2014, 07:02:55 PM
maybe you don't have all the information?

i just gave you all the information i have.  i'll collect more, and more accurate, information in the near future.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: star seed 7 on January 13, 2014, 07:05:56 PM
maybe you don't have all the information?

i just gave you all the information i have.  i'll collect more, and more accurate, information in the near future.

i think that was his subtle, toot your own horn, way of calling you a liar, sys.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on January 13, 2014, 07:21:38 PM
Guys, thanks
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: IPA4Me on January 13, 2014, 07:23:51 PM
Guys, thanks
How is the progress?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: sys on January 13, 2014, 07:24:09 PM
i think that was his subtle, toot your own horn, way of calling you a liar, sys.


it might not have been an underfloor tubing heat system, but other than that, my story is completely accurate.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: chum1 on January 13, 2014, 07:29:26 PM
I don't think you should be asking an HVAC guy questions about heated floors.  He probably has no clue about them.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: RONE on January 13, 2014, 07:30:15 PM
I installed an Ecobee in my house last month. I'm very happy with it.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: pissclams on January 13, 2014, 07:30:26 PM
i bet he knows an assload about heated floors
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: pissclams on January 13, 2014, 07:31:38 PM
I installed an Ecobee in my house last month. I'm very happy with it.

trasel rone
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: chum1 on January 13, 2014, 07:33:55 PM
Well, I guess there's no harm in asking.  But I wouldn't pay for something based on what an HVAC guy has to say about a heated floor.  First choice would probably be to go to a place that does kitchens and baths.  They'd probably know all about heated floor fans and stuff.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on January 13, 2014, 07:44:13 PM

Guys, thanks
How is the progress?

We have a foundation and a dirt pile!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: star seed 7 on January 13, 2014, 07:51:05 PM

Guys, thanks
How is the progress?

We have a foundation and a dirt pile!

pics?

 :impatient:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: IPA4Me on January 13, 2014, 07:53:10 PM

Guys, thanks
How is the progress?

We have a foundation and a dirt pile!
The pile of dirt was the best part of construction for our kids. Loads of fun.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ChiComCat on January 13, 2014, 08:19:23 PM


Guys, thanks
How is the progress?

We have a foundation and a dirt pile!
The pile of dirt was the best part of construction for our kids. Loads of fun.

SD, the advice I'm about to give is absolutely elite level.  The pile of dirt is a big step. If you let them half ass a pile of dirt, what do you think they'll do come complicated crap.  Half ass it too? No, they'll quarter ass it because it's complicated. You have to yell at them and tell them the pile of dirt is not big enough. Really put your foot down. Threaten to pull the plug on the whole damn thing.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: pissclams on January 13, 2014, 08:29:20 PM
very risky pouring concrete in the weather.  foundation problems, please pick up on line one.  on the courtesy phone line one please.  paging you now to the phone on the pole by the menswear dept.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: sys on January 13, 2014, 08:32:06 PM
I don't think you should be asking an HVAC guy questions about heated floors.  He probably has no clue about them.

well it might not be a heated floor if you've been paying attention.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: chum1 on January 13, 2014, 08:42:58 PM
I don't think you should be asking an HVAC guy questions about heated floors.  He probably has no clue about them.

well it might not be a heated floor if you've been paying attention.

I have been.  And it is.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: sys on January 13, 2014, 08:53:52 PM
i'll wait and let the hvac expert decide that, thank you.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Skipper44 on January 13, 2014, 09:18:38 PM
I installed an Ecobee in my house last month. I'm very happy with it.
Are you using it control more than one zone or a humidifier? 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: michigancat on January 13, 2014, 09:21:46 PM
I don't have AC and I think our heater maybe turns on once in the morning or something. Not really sure.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Skipper44 on January 13, 2014, 09:24:36 PM
Are they going to come out with a 3rd gen Nest thermostat in the next 6 months or should I go ahead and buy the 2nd gen now with the $40 amazon credit?

Don't buy that piece of garbage. Do yourself a favor and go get the top of the line Honeywell or even an EcoBee. Honeywell definitely being the top choice though. It's going to run you $300-$400, but it's money well spent if you're building a new house. Tons more options and will play nice with every type of hvac system. The Honeywell one also can interface with lighting, landscape, garage door, alarm systems and such.
I bought the top of the line (at Home Depot/Lowes) Honeywell and I like the look and operation of it but am disappointed it can't control my humidifier.  Is there a professional version of http://www.homedepot.com/p/t/203926327 (http://www.homedepot.com/p/t/203926327) that can seamlessly control typical aprilaire humidifiers?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ShellShock on January 13, 2014, 10:00:44 PM
maybe you don't have all the information?

i just gave you all the information i have.  i'll collect more, and more accurate, information in the near future.

i think that was his subtle, toot your own horn, way of calling you a liar, sys.

Not at all! Just trying to help out! Easier to solve the puzzle when all the pieces are laid out.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ShellShock on January 13, 2014, 10:03:32 PM
I don't think you should be asking an HVAC guy questions about heated floors.  He probably has no clue about them.

False. I actually know quite a bit about heated floors, heated panels for walls, snowmelt systems for sidewalks, etc. If you've ever been to a KSU bball or football game, you've seen my work.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: chum1 on January 13, 2014, 10:12:32 PM
I don't think you should be asking an HVAC guy questions about heated floors.  He probably has no clue about them.

False. I actually know quite a bit about heated floors, heated panels for walls, snowmelt systems for sidewalks, etc. If you've ever been to a KSU bball or football game, you've seen my work.

I totally believe you.  At the same time, you weren't able to answer a simple question about a heated floor earlier, which makes your credibility suspect.  It's all good, though.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: _33 on January 13, 2014, 10:16:37 PM
ShellShock, how much do you know about garage door openers?  Trick question, because you don't know nearly as much as me, so suck it dork.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: kim carnes on January 13, 2014, 10:21:38 PM
I don't think you should be asking an HVAC guy questions about heated floors.  He probably has no clue about them.

False. I actually know quite a bit about heated floors, heated panels for walls, snowmelt systems for sidewalks, etc. If you've ever been to a KSU bball or football game, you've seen my work.

Stud post from one of my favorite posters. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: GoodForAnother on January 13, 2014, 10:25:12 PM
did you know: hvac stands for "heating, ventilation, and air conditioning"
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ShellShock on January 13, 2014, 11:52:21 PM
Are they going to come out with a 3rd gen Nest thermostat in the next 6 months or should I go ahead and buy the 2nd gen now with the $40 amazon credit?

Don't buy that piece of garbage. Do yourself a favor and go get the top of the line Honeywell or even an EcoBee. Honeywell definitely being the top choice though. It's going to run you $300-$400, but it's money well spent if you're building a new house. Tons more options and will play nice with every type of hvac system. The Honeywell one also can interface with lighting, landscape, garage door, alarm systems and such.
I bought the top of the line (at Home Depot/Lowes) Honeywell and I like the look and operation of it but am disappointed it can't control my humidifier.  Is there a professional version of http://www.homedepot.com/p/t/203926327 (http://www.homedepot.com/p/t/203926327) that can seamlessly control typical aprilaire humidifiers?

I've controlled humidifiers with the Honeywell Prestige line before. The stats that HD and Lowes sell sometimes aren't the same ones that you can get if you just call up Honeywell directly....or know a Honeywell employee that can buy through their intranet. I've linked the right stat below:

http://yourhome.honeywell.com/home/Products/Thermostats/7-Day-Programmable/Prestige+IAQ+Total+Home+Comfort+System.htm (http://yourhome.honeywell.com/home/Products/Thermostats/7-Day-Programmable/Prestige+IAQ+Total+Home+Comfort+System.htm)
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ShellShock on January 13, 2014, 11:55:04 PM
I don't think you should be asking an HVAC guy questions about heated floors.  He probably has no clue about them.

False. I actually know quite a bit about heated floors, heated panels for walls, snowmelt systems for sidewalks, etc. If you've ever been to a KSU bball or football game, you've seen my work.

I totally believe you.  At the same time, you weren't able to answer a simple question about a heated floor earlier, which makes your credibility suspect.  It's all good, though.

Which question was that again?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ShellShock on January 13, 2014, 11:55:49 PM
ShellShock, how much do you know about garage door openers?  Trick question, because you don't know nearly as much as me, so suck it dork.

Never claimed to be an expert on garage door openers. I usually hire tshirt ku fans to fix my garage doors........
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ShellShock on January 13, 2014, 11:56:50 PM
I don't think you should be asking an HVAC guy questions about heated floors.  He probably has no clue about them.

False. I actually know quite a bit about heated floors, heated panels for walls, snowmelt systems for sidewalks, etc. If you've ever been to a KSU bball or football game, you've seen my work.

Stud post from one of my favorite posters.

 :excited: ...thought I was one of the most hated posters here?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on January 14, 2014, 07:52:47 AM
All these HVAC dorks are really dragging this SD Builds An Obscenely Nice House thread down.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 14, 2014, 08:15:18 AM
Well, I guess there's no harm in asking.  But I wouldn't pay for something based on what an HVAC guy has to say about a heated floor.  First choice would probably be to go to a place that does kitchens and baths.  They'd probably know all about heated floor fans and stuff.

Haha that is so far from the truth.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: chum1 on January 14, 2014, 09:19:00 AM
Don't be fooled.  HVAC "professionals" are BIG TIME scam artists
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 14, 2014, 09:22:28 AM
I don't think you should be asking an HVAC guy questions about heated floors.  He probably has no clue about them.

False. I actually know quite a bit about heated floors, heated panels for walls, snowmelt systems for sidewalks, etc. If you've ever been to a KSU bball or football game, you've seen my work.

I slipped and fell on an icy sidewalk outside of the OOD, broke my elbow.  Nice work  :Yuck:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on January 14, 2014, 09:51:03 AM
hey shellshock, my father's in-floor heating tube system had some cheap plastic part bust (maybe a fan or something, dunno, didn't pay too much attention) and it caused the whole thing to tear itself apart (motor, computer, etc).  cost like $600, or maybe $1000.  he was real pissed about it.  maybe you should let your friends at big hvac know so they improve the quality of the plastic part.

if you need the name of the part, i can get him to tell the story again and i'll pay attention this time.  he loves to tell the story.

I'm curious about what brand it was? A huge problem with in-floor heating is that it doesn't get installed right the majority of the time.

...still confused how/why there was a fan and/or computer attached to the system though...maybe you don't have all the information?

LOL...obvious Trane shill here amirite?   Acting like there wouldn't be a FAN connected to a hydronic radiant system.    LIES!      :peek:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 14, 2014, 09:52:44 AM
All these HVAC dorks are really dragging this SD Builds An Obscenely Nice House thread down.

I'll allow it as it's originally my thread.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on January 14, 2014, 09:56:26 AM
All these HVAC dorks are really dragging this SD Builds An Obscenely Nice House thread down.

I'll allow it as it's originally my thread.

The power is going to your head.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 14, 2014, 09:57:22 AM
Freedom brother.  What kind of gestapo way of thinking do you subscribe to? 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Skipper44 on January 14, 2014, 10:07:38 AM
Are they going to come out with a 3rd gen Nest thermostat in the next 6 months or should I go ahead and buy the 2nd gen now with the $40 amazon credit?

Don't buy that piece of garbage. Do yourself a favor and go get the top of the line Honeywell or even an EcoBee. Honeywell definitely being the top choice though. It's going to run you $300-$400, but it's money well spent if you're building a new house. Tons more options and will play nice with every type of hvac system. The Honeywell one also can interface with lighting, landscape, garage door, alarm systems and such.
I bought the top of the line (at Home Depot/Lowes) Honeywell and I like the look and operation of it but am disappointed it can't control my humidifier.  Is there a professional version of http://www.homedepot.com/p/t/203926327 (http://www.homedepot.com/p/t/203926327) that can seamlessly control typical aprilaire humidifiers?

I've controlled humidifiers with the Honeywell Prestige line before. The stats that HD and Lowes sell sometimes aren't the same ones that you can get if you just call up Honeywell directly....or know a Honeywell employee that can buy through their intranet. I've linked the right stat below:

http://yourhome.honeywell.com/home/Products/Thermostats/7-Day-Programmable/Prestige+IAQ+Total+Home+Comfort+System.htm (http://yourhome.honeywell.com/home/Products/Thermostats/7-Day-Programmable/Prestige+IAQ+Total+Home+Comfort+System.htm)
Thanks for the link ShellShock, it looks like I can order the "Pro" equipment off Amazon. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ShellShock on January 14, 2014, 01:02:54 PM
I don't think you should be asking an HVAC guy questions about heated floors.  He probably has no clue about them.

False. I actually know quite a bit about heated floors, heated panels for walls, snowmelt systems for sidewalks, etc. If you've ever been to a KSU bball or football game, you've seen my work.

I slipped and fell on an icy sidewalk outside of the OOD, broke my elbow.  Nice work  :Yuck:

Which side of the OOD?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ShellShock on January 14, 2014, 01:03:47 PM
hey shellshock, my father's in-floor heating tube system had some cheap plastic part bust (maybe a fan or something, dunno, didn't pay too much attention) and it caused the whole thing to tear itself apart (motor, computer, etc).  cost like $600, or maybe $1000.  he was real pissed about it.  maybe you should let your friends at big hvac know so they improve the quality of the plastic part.

if you need the name of the part, i can get him to tell the story again and i'll pay attention this time.  he loves to tell the story.

I'm curious about what brand it was? A huge problem with in-floor heating is that it doesn't get installed right the majority of the time.

...still confused how/why there was a fan and/or computer attached to the system though...maybe you don't have all the information?

LOL...obvious Trane shill here amirite?   Acting like there wouldn't be a FAN connected to a hydronic radiant system.    LIES!      :peek:

Far from it...hate hate hate Trane in every aspect of HVAC. The only time I specify/use Trane is when i'm forced to by the owner.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ShellShock on January 14, 2014, 01:05:37 PM
Are they going to come out with a 3rd gen Nest thermostat in the next 6 months or should I go ahead and buy the 2nd gen now with the $40 amazon credit?

Don't buy that piece of garbage. Do yourself a favor and go get the top of the line Honeywell or even an EcoBee. Honeywell definitely being the top choice though. It's going to run you $300-$400, but it's money well spent if you're building a new house. Tons more options and will play nice with every type of hvac system. The Honeywell one also can interface with lighting, landscape, garage door, alarm systems and such.
I bought the top of the line (at Home Depot/Lowes) Honeywell and I like the look and operation of it but am disappointed it can't control my humidifier.  Is there a professional version of http://www.homedepot.com/p/t/203926327 (http://www.homedepot.com/p/t/203926327) that can seamlessly control typical aprilaire humidifiers?

I've controlled humidifiers with the Honeywell Prestige line before. The stats that HD and Lowes sell sometimes aren't the same ones that you can get if you just call up Honeywell directly....or know a Honeywell employee that can buy through their intranet. I've linked the right stat below:

http://yourhome.honeywell.com/home/Products/Thermostats/7-Day-Programmable/Prestige+IAQ+Total+Home+Comfort+System.htm (http://yourhome.honeywell.com/home/Products/Thermostats/7-Day-Programmable/Prestige+IAQ+Total+Home+Comfort+System.htm)
Thanks for the link ShellShock, it looks like I can order the "Pro" equipment off Amazon.

No problem! I'd even call Honeywell directly as sometimes they'll cut a pretty good deal if you try to buy direct. If I had an "in" with equipment purchasing, i'd totally hook you up. I'll keep my ears open though for the future.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: IPA4Me on January 14, 2014, 01:11:04 PM
Don't be fooled.  HVAC "professionals" are BIG TIME scam artists
Huge. Sure pays well though.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ShellShock on January 14, 2014, 01:31:35 PM
Don't be fooled.  HVAC "professionals" are BIG TIME scam artists
Huge. Sure pays well though.

Residential HVAC professionals are huge scam artists. A furnace that costs 2-3k to buy from the factory that gets sold to people for 10k is ridiculous.

Disclaimer: I'm not on the residential side and i'm not a rep. I'm an engineer that designs commercial hvac. So, I have little bias to defend crooks like that.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: schreds21 on January 14, 2014, 02:25:45 PM
Don't be fooled.  HVAC "professionals" are BIG TIME scam artists
Huge. Sure pays well though.

Residential HVAC professionals are huge scam artists. A furnace that costs 2-3k to buy from the factory that gets sold to people for 10k is ridiculous.

Disclaimer: I'm not on the residential side and i'm not a rep. I'm an engineer that designs commercial hvac. So, I have little bias to defend crooks like that.
Carefull how much you listen to ShellShock, Steve Dave.  His kind is the type that is convinced ductwork can pass through solid structural objects such as beams and bar joists.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: mocat on January 14, 2014, 02:42:51 PM
why would anybody have a problem with ducts going through bar joists?  :confused:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 14, 2014, 02:47:37 PM
Don't be fooled.  HVAC "professionals" are BIG TIME scam artists
Huge. Sure pays well though.

Residential HVAC professionals are huge scam artists. A furnace that costs 2-3k to buy from the factory that gets sold to people for 10k is ridiculous.

Disclaimer: I'm not on the residential side and i'm not a rep. I'm an engineer that designs commercial hvac. So, I have little bias to defend crooks like that.

one of my best friends is an engineer that designs commericial hvac. you're not him are you?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Mr Bread on January 14, 2014, 03:05:18 PM
Burgeoning yes moment here fellas.  :Wha:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: mocat on January 14, 2014, 03:07:15 PM
is that guy from die hard?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Mr Bread on January 14, 2014, 03:11:19 PM
It's Hart Bochner.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Mr Bread on January 14, 2014, 03:13:47 PM
He directed PCU.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: mocat on January 14, 2014, 03:14:17 PM
no, no, you're confused. that guy is from die hard.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: schreds21 on January 14, 2014, 03:18:54 PM
why would anybody have a problem with ducts going through bar joists?  :confused:
They don't always fit.

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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: puniraptor on January 14, 2014, 03:19:57 PM
why would anybody have a problem with ducts going through bar joists?  :confused:
They don't always fit.

I'm pulling the license from whoever stamped that joist.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: schreds21 on January 14, 2014, 03:21:02 PM
why would anybody have a problem with ducts going through bar joists?  :confused:
They don't always fit.

I'm pulling the license from whoever stamped that joist.
I've actually seen worse.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: RONE on January 14, 2014, 03:29:31 PM

Don't be fooled.  HVAC "professionals" are BIG TIME scam artists
Huge. Sure pays well though.

Residential HVAC professionals are huge scam artists. A furnace that costs 2-3k to buy from the factory that gets sold to people for 10k is ridiculous.

Disclaimer: I'm not on the residential side and i'm not a rep. I'm an engineer that designs commercial hvac. So, I have little bias to defend crooks like that.
Then who do you have install the unit? Do it yourself?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: XocolateThundarr on January 14, 2014, 03:31:37 PM
why would anybody have a problem with ducts going through bar joists?  :confused:
They don't always fit.

I'm pulling the license from whoever stamped that joist.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: mocat on January 14, 2014, 03:47:06 PM
why would anybody have a problem with ducts going through bar joists?  :confused:
They don't always fit.

I'm pulling the license from whoever stamped that joist.
I've actually seen worse.

 :dubious:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Tobias on January 14, 2014, 03:48:05 PM
i can undoubtedly say that is the worst representation of a bar joist (sp?) that i've ever seen
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: mocat on January 14, 2014, 03:49:38 PM
yeah, not to mention, i could draw a picture of shaq trying to get inside a mini cooper and use that as a reason humans should not drive cars, but then i'd be a huge dumbass like schreds21
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: IPA4Me on January 14, 2014, 04:01:19 PM
Don't be fooled.  HVAC "professionals" are BIG TIME scam artists
Huge. Sure pays well though.

Residential HVAC professionals are huge scam artists. A furnace that costs 2-3k to buy from the factory that gets sold to people for 10k is ridiculous.

Disclaimer: I'm not on the residential side and i'm not a rep. I'm an engineer that designs commercial hvac. So, I have little bias to defend crooks like that.
So your saying you have no experience actually running a residential hvac business and don't understand the margins necessary to keep one going. Got it.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 14, 2014, 04:04:47 PM
I don't think you should be asking an HVAC guy questions about heated floors.  He probably has no clue about them.

False. I actually know quite a bit about heated floors, heated panels for walls, snowmelt systems for sidewalks, etc. If you've ever been to a KSU bball or football game, you've seen my work.

I slipped and fell on an icy sidewalk outside of the OOD, broke my elbow.  Nice work  :Yuck:

Which side of the OOD?

you know damn well you son of a bitch
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ShellShock on January 14, 2014, 04:56:37 PM
why would anybody have a problem with ducts going through bar joists?  :confused:

My thought exactly? Also, you can pass through beams as long as you reinforce the web. There are restrictions though...as there are with anything
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ShellShock on January 14, 2014, 04:57:02 PM
Don't be fooled.  HVAC "professionals" are BIG TIME scam artists
Huge. Sure pays well though.

Residential HVAC professionals are huge scam artists. A furnace that costs 2-3k to buy from the factory that gets sold to people for 10k is ridiculous.

Disclaimer: I'm not on the residential side and i'm not a rep. I'm an engineer that designs commercial hvac. So, I have little bias to defend crooks like that.

one of my best friends is an engineer that designs commericial hvac. you're not him are you?

Not sure? Maybe?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ShellShock on January 14, 2014, 04:58:25 PM
i can undoubtedly say that is the worst representation of a bar joist (sp?) that i've ever seen

Agreed.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ShellShock on January 14, 2014, 04:59:40 PM

Don't be fooled.  HVAC "professionals" are BIG TIME scam artists
Huge. Sure pays well though.

Residential HVAC professionals are huge scam artists. A furnace that costs 2-3k to buy from the factory that gets sold to people for 10k is ridiculous.

Disclaimer: I'm not on the residential side and i'm not a rep. I'm an engineer that designs commercial hvac. So, I have little bias to defend crooks like that.
Then who do you have install the unit? Do it yourself?

Bingo. If you're not comfortable sealing up and modifying ductwork and running lineset, hire someone. Regardless though, you'll have to hire someone to come and charge the lines...that part isn't terribly expensive though.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 14, 2014, 05:02:04 PM
Chilled beams duh.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ShellShock on January 14, 2014, 05:05:54 PM
Don't be fooled.  HVAC "professionals" are BIG TIME scam artists
Huge. Sure pays well though.

Residential HVAC professionals are huge scam artists. A furnace that costs 2-3k to buy from the factory that gets sold to people for 10k is ridiculous.

Disclaimer: I'm not on the residential side and i'm not a rep. I'm an engineer that designs commercial hvac. So, I have little bias to defend crooks like that.
So your saying you have no experience actually running a residential hvac business and don't understand the margins necessary to keep one going. Got it.

Not saying that at all. I know how to run a business and make money, but I don't feel like getting bent over by someone charging an arm and a leg for things just because the average consumer doesn't understand it at all. Same thing goes for auto repairs. I read an article about that sort of the thing in the recent past and residential HVAC and auto repair were some of the highest margins in the consumer sector.

Here is some reading material for you:

http://www.energyvanguard.com/blog-building-science-HERS-BPI/bid/54855/Are-HVAC-Contractors-Using-a-Business-Model-That-Leads-to-Ripoffs (http://www.energyvanguard.com/blog-building-science-HERS-BPI/bid/54855/Are-HVAC-Contractors-Using-a-Business-Model-That-Leads-to-Ripoffs)

http://www.today.com/id/48080346/ns/today-today_rossen_reports/t/rossen-reports-are-air-conditioning-repairers-being-competent-honest/#.UCJRZ0Sz6Tg (http://www.today.com/id/48080346/ns/today-today_rossen_reports/t/rossen-reports-are-air-conditioning-repairers-being-competent-honest/#.UCJRZ0Sz6Tg)
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: chum1 on January 14, 2014, 05:32:01 PM
Has the rest of the thread been this good?  If so, I'm going back to read IMMEDIATELY.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: IPA4Me on January 14, 2014, 05:39:22 PM
Don't be fooled.  HVAC "professionals" are BIG TIME scam artists
Huge. Sure pays well though.

Residential HVAC professionals are huge scam artists. A furnace that costs 2-3k to buy from the factory that gets sold to people for 10k is ridiculous.

Disclaimer: I'm not on the residential side and i'm not a rep. I'm an engineer that designs commercial hvac. So, I have little bias to defend crooks like that.
So your saying you have no experience actually running a residential hvac business and don't understand the margins necessary to keep one going. Got it.

Not saying that at all. I know how to run a business and make money, but I don't feel like getting bent over by someone charging an arm and a leg for things just because the average consumer doesn't understand it at all. Same thing goes for auto repairs. I read an article about that sort of the thing in the recent past and residential HVAC and auto repair were some of the highest margins in the consumer sector.

Here is some reading material for you:

http://www.energyvanguard.com/blog-building-science-HERS-BPI/bid/54855/Are-HVAC-Contractors-Using-a-Business-Model-That-Leads-to-Ripoffs (http://www.energyvanguard.com/blog-building-science-HERS-BPI/bid/54855/Are-HVAC-Contractors-Using-a-Business-Model-That-Leads-to-Ripoffs)

http://www.today.com/id/48080346/ns/today-today_rossen_reports/t/rossen-reports-are-air-conditioning-repairers-being-competent-honest/#.UCJRZ0Sz6Tg (http://www.today.com/id/48080346/ns/today-today_rossen_reports/t/rossen-reports-are-air-conditioning-repairers-being-competent-honest/#.UCJRZ0Sz6Tg)
What do you think is a minimum GP % for a residential hvac company to keep the doors open for the long haul?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ShellShock on January 14, 2014, 05:47:43 PM
I don't think you should be asking an HVAC guy questions about heated floors.  He probably has no clue about them.

False. I actually know quite a bit about heated floors, heated panels for walls, snowmelt systems for sidewalks, etc. If you've ever been to a KSU bball or football game, you've seen my work.

I slipped and fell on an icy sidewalk outside of the OOD, broke my elbow.  Nice work  :Yuck:

Which side of the OOD?

you know damn well you son of a bitch

Sorry 'stone. Hopefully the elbow is alright? That system (like all the typical snowmelt systems, it's designed to melt roughly 2"-3" of ice per hour.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ShellShock on January 14, 2014, 05:50:20 PM
Don't be fooled.  HVAC "professionals" are BIG TIME scam artists
Huge. Sure pays well though.

Residential HVAC professionals are huge scam artists. A furnace that costs 2-3k to buy from the factory that gets sold to people for 10k is ridiculous.

Disclaimer: I'm not on the residential side and i'm not a rep. I'm an engineer that designs commercial hvac. So, I have little bias to defend crooks like that.
So your saying you have no experience actually running a residential hvac business and don't understand the margins necessary to keep one going. Got it.

Not saying that at all. I know how to run a business and make money, but I don't feel like getting bent over by someone charging an arm and a leg for things just because the average consumer doesn't understand it at all. Same thing goes for auto repairs. I read an article about that sort of the thing in the recent past and residential HVAC and auto repair were some of the highest margins in the consumer sector.

Here is some reading material for you:

http://www.energyvanguard.com/blog-building-science-HERS-BPI/bid/54855/Are-HVAC-Contractors-Using-a-Business-Model-That-Leads-to-Ripoffs (http://www.energyvanguard.com/blog-building-science-HERS-BPI/bid/54855/Are-HVAC-Contractors-Using-a-Business-Model-That-Leads-to-Ripoffs)

http://www.today.com/id/48080346/ns/today-today_rossen_reports/t/rossen-reports-are-air-conditioning-repairers-being-competent-honest/#.UCJRZ0Sz6Tg (http://www.today.com/id/48080346/ns/today-today_rossen_reports/t/rossen-reports-are-air-conditioning-repairers-being-competent-honest/#.UCJRZ0Sz6Tg)
What do you think is a minimum GP % for a residential hvac company to keep the doors open for the long haul?

That is a very loaded question. Like any company, the multiplier depends on more factors than we can list here.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ShellShock on January 14, 2014, 05:51:50 PM
Chilled beams duh.

Too humid around the midwest to be a great application in my opinion. If your building is really tight and the controls are properly done, it's possible. I just don't want the risk of not maintaining perfect conditions and having my walls sweat or ceilings drop from condensation.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: IPA4Me on January 14, 2014, 05:51:56 PM
Heh.  ;)
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ShellShock on January 14, 2014, 05:53:15 PM
Heh.  ;)

I take it you don't agree? Enlighten us on the quick and dirty set % of keeping a business open...i'm sure i'm not the only one that is curious  :popcorn:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: IPA4Me on January 14, 2014, 06:48:33 PM
Heh.  ;)

I take it you don't agree? Enlighten us on the quick and dirty set % of keeping a business open...i'm sure i'm not the only one that is curious  :popcorn:
It's a simple number. I'd expect someone with your vast knowledge to know. I'm shocked.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on January 14, 2014, 07:12:25 PM
My house is going to be so choice guys. Thanks.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Tobias on January 14, 2014, 07:13:48 PM
My house is going to be so choice guys. Thanks.

don't forget i called the locker room for the CWS, friend.  i think daris had a tent in the yard IIRC
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 14, 2014, 07:16:47 PM
Chilled beams duh.

Too humid around the midwest to be a great application in my opinion. If your building is really tight and the controls are properly done, it's possible. I just don't want the risk of not maintaining perfect conditions and having my walls sweat or ceilings drop from condensation.
  Myth repeatedly disproved by science.


Chilled beams duh.

Too humid around the midwest to be a great application in my opinion. If your building is really tight and the controls are properly done, it's possible. I just don't want the risk of not maintaining perfect conditions and having my walls sweat or ceilings drop from condensation.

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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: GoodForAnother on January 14, 2014, 07:27:38 PM
Has the rest of the thread been this good?  If so, I'm going back to read IMMEDIATELY.

it's been a pretty entertaining thread.  very much a ditr. these last few pages have been the best tho.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ShellShock on January 14, 2014, 07:39:54 PM
Heh.  ;)

I take it you don't agree? Enlighten us on the quick and dirty set % of keeping a business open...i'm sure i'm not the only one that is curious  :popcorn:
It's a simple number. I'd expect someone with your vast knowledge to know. I'm shocked.

So you don't run the numbers of the business, you just are the installer right?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: wetwillie on January 14, 2014, 08:37:35 PM
i think Jason Whitlock's house has started to rub off on ShellShock, and i love it.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: mocat on January 14, 2014, 08:51:33 PM
Heh.  ;)

I take it you don't agree? Enlighten us on the quick and dirty set % of keeping a business open...i'm sure i'm not the only one that is curious  :popcorn:
It's a simple number. I'd expect someone with your vast knowledge to know. I'm shocked.

Fix your deck you hillbilly
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 14, 2014, 09:15:57 PM
My house is going to be so choice guys. Thanks.

don't forget i called the locker room for the CWS, friend.  i think daris had a tent in the yard IIRC

front yard to be more specific
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 14, 2014, 09:19:21 PM
Don't be fooled.  HVAC "professionals" are BIG TIME scam artists
Huge. Sure pays well though.

Residential HVAC professionals are huge scam artists. A furnace that costs 2-3k to buy from the factory that gets sold to people for 10k is ridiculous.

Disclaimer: I'm not on the residential side and i'm not a rep. I'm an engineer that designs commercial hvac. So, I have little bias to defend crooks like that.

one of my best friends is an engineer that designs commericial hvac. you're not him are you?

Not sure? Maybe?

yeah i was just kidding. you are not him. he lives in texas. just made partner in his firm!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ShellShock on January 15, 2014, 08:44:58 AM
Don't be fooled.  HVAC "professionals" are BIG TIME scam artists
Huge. Sure pays well though.

Residential HVAC professionals are huge scam artists. A furnace that costs 2-3k to buy from the factory that gets sold to people for 10k is ridiculous.

Disclaimer: I'm not on the residential side and i'm not a rep. I'm an engineer that designs commercial hvac. So, I have little bias to defend crooks like that.

one of my best friends is an engineer that designs commericial hvac. you're not him are you?

Not sure? Maybe?

yeah i was just kidding. you are not him. he lives in texas. just made partner in his firm!

Cheers to your friend then! Making partner is a big deal in our industry.

Off topic: Are you actually an officer of the law in the KC metro area? If so, the next time i'm pulled over, i'm going to ask the officer if he's a goEMAW fan/you.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 15, 2014, 09:17:58 AM
Don't be fooled.  HVAC "professionals" are BIG TIME scam artists
Huge. Sure pays well though.

Residential HVAC professionals are huge scam artists. A furnace that costs 2-3k to buy from the factory that gets sold to people for 10k is ridiculous.

Disclaimer: I'm not on the residential side and i'm not a rep. I'm an engineer that designs commercial hvac. So, I have little bias to defend crooks like that.

one of my best friends is an engineer that designs commericial hvac. you're not him are you?

Not sure? Maybe?

yeah i was just kidding. you are not him. he lives in texas. just made partner in his firm!

Cheers to your friend then! Making partner is a big deal in our industry.

Off topic: Are you actually an officer of the law in the KC metro area? If so, the next time i'm pulled over, i'm going to ask the officer if he's a goEMAW fan/you.

i have an even better suggestion for you partner, how about you just try to keep it under the speed limit and do your best to obey the rules of the road.  :cop:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ShellShock on January 15, 2014, 01:12:02 PM
Don't be fooled.  HVAC "professionals" are BIG TIME scam artists
Huge. Sure pays well though.

Residential HVAC professionals are huge scam artists. A furnace that costs 2-3k to buy from the factory that gets sold to people for 10k is ridiculous.

Disclaimer: I'm not on the residential side and i'm not a rep. I'm an engineer that designs commercial hvac. So, I have little bias to defend crooks like that.

one of my best friends is an engineer that designs commericial hvac. you're not him are you?

Not sure? Maybe?

yeah i was just kidding. you are not him. he lives in texas. just made partner in his firm!

Cheers to your friend then! Making partner is a big deal in our industry.

Off topic: Are you actually an officer of the law in the KC metro area? If so, the next time i'm pulled over, i'm going to ask the officer if he's a goEMAW fan/you.

i have an even better suggestion for you partner, how about you just try to keep it under the speed limit and do your best to obey the rules of the road.  :cop:

How else am I ever going to meet you then RD?  :confused: It is all a play to meet the man behind the name....
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: IPA4Me on January 15, 2014, 02:11:40 PM
Heh.  ;)

I take it you don't agree? Enlighten us on the quick and dirty set % of keeping a business open...i'm sure i'm not the only one that is curious  :popcorn:
It's a simple number. I'd expect someone with your vast knowledge to know. I'm shocked.

So you don't run the numbers of the business, you just are the installer right?
American dream. I built a business and sold it. On to the next adventure.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: IPA4Me on January 15, 2014, 02:13:06 PM
Heh.  ;)

I take it you don't agree? Enlighten us on the quick and dirty set % of keeping a business open...i'm sure i'm not the only one that is curious  :popcorn:
It's a simple number. I'd expect someone with your vast knowledge to know. I'm shocked.

Fix your deck you hillbilly
Maybe. We're thinking about connecting the master bedroom deck to the living room deck. I'll probably stain and seal when we do it.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 15, 2014, 02:37:05 PM
Heh.  ;)

I take it you don't agree? Enlighten us on the quick and dirty set % of keeping a business open...i'm sure i'm not the only one that is curious  :popcorn:
It's a simple number. I'd expect someone with your vast knowledge to know. I'm shocked.

So you don't run the numbers of the business, you just are the installer right?
American dream. I built a business and sold it. On to the next adventure.

That's more of the Israeli dream than the American dream, IMO.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: IPA4Me on January 15, 2014, 02:41:53 PM
Heh.  ;)

I take it you don't agree? Enlighten us on the quick and dirty set % of keeping a business open...i'm sure i'm not the only one that is curious  :popcorn:
It's a simple number. I'd expect someone with your vast knowledge to know. I'm shocked.

So you don't run the numbers of the business, you just are the installer right?
American dream. I built a business and sold it. On to the next adventure.

That's more of the Israeli dream than the American dream, IMO.
Perhaps.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: schreds21 on January 17, 2014, 09:11:05 AM
why would anybody have a problem with ducts going through bar joists?  :confused:

My thought exactly? Also, you can pass through beams as long as you reinforce the web. There are restrictions though...as there are with anything
Ahh yes.......typical ME thought process:
"I want my ductwork to go here.  Let the SE or GC figure out how to build the building around it and we can just pass any added cost on to the owner."
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: michigancat on January 17, 2014, 11:02:31 AM
why would anybody have a problem with ducts going through bar joists?  :confused:

My thought exactly? Also, you can pass through beams as long as you reinforce the web. There are restrictions though...as there are with anything
Ahh yes.......typical ME thought process:
"I want my ductwork to go here.  Let the SE or GC figure out how to build the building around it and we can just pass any added cost on to the owner."

ooh, we should have a thread devoted to hot topics like this!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: mocat on January 17, 2014, 11:04:22 AM
why would anybody have a problem with ducts going through bar joists?  :confused:

My thought exactly? Also, you can pass through beams as long as you reinforce the web. There are restrictions though...as there are with anything
Ahh yes.......typical ME thought process:
"I want my ductwork to go here.  Let the SE or GC figure out how to build the building around it and we can just pass any added cost on to the owner."

i'm an SE and have no problem with ducts going through bar joists. if you want to go through a wide flange or something, go ahead go back to the drawing board tho
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: mocat on January 17, 2014, 11:04:45 AM
why would anybody have a problem with ducts going through bar joists?  :confused:

My thought exactly? Also, you can pass through beams as long as you reinforce the web. There are restrictions though...as there are with anything
Ahh yes.......typical ME thought process:
"I want my ductwork to go here.  Let the SE or GC figure out how to build the building around it and we can just pass any added cost on to the owner."

ooh, we should have a thread devoted to hot topics like this!

stop following us around
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on January 17, 2014, 11:09:55 AM
haven't read this thread in like 2 months. this thing built yet? cws is coming up soon.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on January 17, 2014, 11:14:13 AM
haven't read this thread in like 2 months. this thing built yet? cws is coming up soon.

framing on tuesday  :excited:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on January 17, 2014, 11:34:52 AM
ok, we're going to pick out appliances (fridge, range, microwave, dishwasher, range hood, under bar drink fridge or kegarator) this weekend because they can't design the cabinets until they have the info on the appliances. ran gas to the range area but we can still get electric if we want. what is worth spending on the money on and what isn't? what brands are good and what suck?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: michigancat on January 17, 2014, 11:38:35 AM
ok, we're going to pick out appliances (fridge, range, microwave, dishwasher, range hood, under bar drink fridge or kegarator) this weekend because they can't design the cabinets until they have the info on the appliances. ran gas to the range area but we can still get electric if we want. what is worth spending on the money on and what isn't? what brands are good and what suck?

why on earth would anyone want an electric range
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on January 17, 2014, 11:39:22 AM
ok, we're going to pick out appliances (fridge, range, microwave, dishwasher, range hood, under bar drink fridge or kegarator) this weekend because they can't design the cabinets until they have the info on the appliances. ran gas to the range area but we can still get electric if we want. what is worth spending on the money on and what isn't? what brands are good and what suck?

TTHOTUC dad has an oven that basically has this dividing bar in it so you can use it as a double oven. its pretty nice for when youre cooking big meals like thanksgiving and what not and easier to use than a regular double oven. ill ask him what brand/model it is.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on January 17, 2014, 11:39:32 AM
ok, we're going to pick out appliances (fridge, range, microwave, dishwasher, range hood, under bar drink fridge or kegarator) this weekend because they can't design the cabinets until they have the info on the appliances. ran gas to the range area but we can still get electric if we want. what is worth spending on the money on and what isn't? what brands are good and what suck?

why on earth would anyone want an electric range

I don't know. focus on the questions fuckface.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on January 17, 2014, 11:46:55 AM
ok, we're going to pick out appliances (fridge, range, microwave, dishwasher, range hood, under bar drink fridge or kegarator) this weekend because they can't design the cabinets until they have the info on the appliances. ran gas to the range area but we can still get electric if we want. what is worth spending on the money on and what isn't? what brands are good and what suck?

TTHOTUC dad has an oven that basically has this dividing bar in it so you can use it as a double oven. its pretty nice for when youre cooking big meals like thanksgiving and what not and easier to use than a regular double oven. ill ask him what brand/model it is.

http://www.sears.com/samsung-30inch-freestanding-electric-range-with-a-dual/p-02260353000P?prdNo=12&blockNo=12&blockType=G12 (http://www.sears.com/samsung-30inch-freestanding-electric-range-with-a-dual/p-02260353000P?prdNo=12&blockNo=12&blockType=G12)

stainless steel is just about the only way to go with appliances, imo. only downside is you cant use magnets on the front of your fridge.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: raquetcat on January 17, 2014, 11:48:53 AM
What color/finish are you getting? I hear white ice is becoming all the rage
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: michigancat on January 17, 2014, 11:50:00 AM
ok, we're going to pick out appliances (fridge, range, microwave, dishwasher, range hood, under bar drink fridge or kegarator) this weekend because they can't design the cabinets until they have the info on the appliances. ran gas to the range area but we can still get electric if we want. what is worth spending on the money on and what isn't? what brands are good and what suck?

why on earth would anyone want an electric range

I don't know. focus on the questions fuckface.

I was telling you to get a viking range in my own little charming way
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: IPA4Me on January 17, 2014, 11:50:09 AM
ok, we're going to pick out appliances (fridge, range, microwave, dishwasher, range hood, under bar drink fridge or kegarator) this weekend because they can't design the cabinets until they have the info on the appliances. ran gas to the range area but we can still get electric if we want. what is worth spending on the money on and what isn't? what brands are good and what suck?
We have an all electric Frigidaire kitchen. Works great for us. Brushed stainless look.

Flat top cook surface on the stove. Sure makes for easy cleaning.  Side by side fridge with ice/water in the door. Over the stove microwave with vented hood. Noisy dishwasher is the only appliance I would change. Should have went higher end there. We purchased them all at Lowe's.

As noted before ITT, we've been here since summer 2006. So, can't complain about no repairs to any appliances to this point.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Skipper44 on January 17, 2014, 11:58:52 AM
ok, we're going to pick out appliances (fridge, range, microwave, dishwasher, range hood, under bar drink fridge or kegarator) this weekend because they can't design the cabinets until they have the info on the appliances. ran gas to the range area but we can still get electric if we want. what is worth spending on the money on and what isn't? what brands are good and what suck?
I like our gas Viking range but one thing to remember on most "professional" or "commercial" ranges is they do not have timers/delayed start for the oven, so it is nice to also have an additional wall oven. 

I like our somewhat basic Maytag microwave and single wall oven combo - gives us a kitchen timer and the electric wall oven has the delayed start the Viking doesn't and gets the microwave off the countertop.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on January 17, 2014, 12:02:47 PM
I cook a lot.  Getting a Viking is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) unless you are filthy rich and have nothing else to do with $10k.  You can get a really nice gas residential stove that will heat up pretty much any kind of nacho you want for like $1200-$1500. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: michigancat on January 17, 2014, 12:04:08 PM
I cook a lot.  Getting a Viking is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) unless you are filthy rich and have nothing else to do with $10k.  You can get a really nice gas residential stove that will heat up pretty much any kind of nacho you want for like $1200-$1500. 

It's a status symbol/big selling point for resale
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on January 17, 2014, 12:04:39 PM
I cook a lot.  Getting a Viking is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) unless you are filthy rich and have nothing else to do with $10k.  You can get a really nice gas residential stove that will heat up pretty much any kind of nacho you want for like $1200-$1500. 

It's a status symbol/big selling point for resale

No, it's dumb.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: michigancat on January 17, 2014, 12:14:48 PM
I cook a lot.  Getting a Viking is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) unless you are filthy rich and have nothing else to do with $10k.  You can get a really nice gas residential stove that will heat up pretty much any kind of nacho you want for like $1200-$1500. 

It's a status symbol/big selling point for resale

No, it's dumb.

that does not contradict what I said, numbnuts.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: pissclams on January 17, 2014, 12:15:48 PM
i think they're cool, my friend has one.  it's cool. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: mocat on January 17, 2014, 12:23:04 PM
electric stove? WHAT AN IDIOT! (not sarcastic)
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: IPA4Me on January 17, 2014, 12:29:58 PM
electric stove? WHAT AN IDIOT! (not sarcastic)
Hey dumbass. Some people live in the country in where they don't run natural gas. Feel free to stop being a dumbass.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: mocat on January 17, 2014, 12:32:10 PM
electric stove? WHAT AN IDIOT! (not sarcastic)
Hey dumbass. Some people live in the country in where they don't run natural gas. Feel free to stop being a dumbass.

well that's certainly not Omaha you dumbass!  :lol:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: schreds21 on January 17, 2014, 12:33:09 PM
haven't read this thread in like 2 months. this thing built yet? cws is coming up soon.

framing on tuesday  :excited:

Casting Shadows!!!!  :Woohoo:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on January 17, 2014, 12:34:13 PM
electric stove? WHAT AN IDIOT! (not sarcastic)
Hey dumbass. Some people live in the country in where they don't run natural gas. Feel free to stop being a dumbass.

take it to the camping thread.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: pissclams on January 17, 2014, 12:35:55 PM

electric stove? WHAT AN IDIOT! (not sarcastic)
Viking
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on January 17, 2014, 12:37:31 PM
I cook a lot.  Getting a Viking is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) unless you are filthy rich and have nothing else to do with $10k.  You can get a really nice gas residential stove that will heat up pretty much any kind of nacho you want for like $1200-$1500. 

It's a status symbol/big selling point for resale

No, it's dumb.

that does not contradict what I said, numbnuts.

Over buying on stove to bigtime ppl with said stove is a pretty dumb idea.  Also, spending $10k on a stove for resale isn't smart either.  You won't get that $10k back in your appraised value or sale price.  If your house is so shitty that the stove is what it takes just to sell the house, you def need to spend $10k elsewhere.

See?  It's dumb. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: michigancat on January 17, 2014, 12:42:41 PM
I cook a lot.  Getting a Viking is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) unless you are filthy rich and have nothing else to do with $10k.  You can get a really nice gas residential stove that will heat up pretty much any kind of nacho you want for like $1200-$1500. 

It's a status symbol/big selling point for resale

No, it's dumb.

that does not contradict what I said, numbnuts.

Over buying on stove to bigtime ppl with said stove is a pretty dumb idea.  Also, spending $10k on a stove for resale isn't smart either.  You won't get that $10k back in your appraised value or sale price.  If your house is so shitty that the stove is what it takes just to sell the house, you def need to spend $10k elsewhere.

See?  It's dumb. 

$10k? :dubious:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on January 17, 2014, 12:45:20 PM
google shopping only shows me one when I searched it and it was $7,200.  The few NFM had on the floor last spring when I bought my range were both over $10k.  One was crazy high at something like $15k but it was a double oven one, iirc.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: michigancat on January 17, 2014, 12:48:21 PM
http://buyriteappliances.com/viking-vgic5304bss.html?utm_source=PriceGrabber&utm_medium=CSE&utm_campaign=Viking&gdftrk=gdfV23947_a_7c1986_a_7c9011_a_7c8687
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on January 17, 2014, 12:58:12 PM
Their website shows that as the lowest cost one they make.  The MSRP on similar other models to the one you posted is $5,900-$9,300.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: michigancat on January 17, 2014, 01:00:53 PM
Their website shows that as the lowest cost one they make.  The MSRP on similar other models to the one you posted is $5,900-$9,300.

still, here's kind of what I'm talking about - the name "Viking" is a big deal to a lot of folks:

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/search/apa?zoomToPosting=&catAbb=apa&query=viking&minAsk=&maxAsk=&bedrooms=&housing_type=&excats=
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on January 17, 2014, 01:05:45 PM
Their website shows that as the lowest cost one they make.  The MSRP on similar other models to the one you posted is $5,900-$9,300.

still, here's kind of what I'm talking about - the name "Viking" is a big deal to a lot of folks:

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/search/apa?zoomToPosting=&catAbb=apa&query=viking&minAsk=&maxAsk=&bedrooms=&housing_type=&excats=

mods, please move this post to the SF Things thread
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on January 17, 2014, 01:06:46 PM
if you will never turn on a gas fireplace would you still spend the money on one that looks elite or just have them slap some black heatilator up there?

we were quoted this SOB but it's like $2,500 more than a basic square job.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.heatnglo.com%2F%7E%2Fmedia%2FImages%2FMedia%2520folder%2FRefractory%2FHNG_Cosmo-SLR_Reflec-PorcLiner.ashx&hash=27733fe2aae6e83998ef596faba80328c39849da)
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: schreds21 on January 17, 2014, 01:09:35 PM
why would anybody have a problem with ducts going through bar joists?  :confused:

My thought exactly? Also, you can pass through beams as long as you reinforce the web. There are restrictions though...as there are with anything
Ahh yes.......typical ME thought process:
"I want my ductwork to go here.  Let the SE or GC figure out how to build the building around it and we can just pass any added cost on to the owner."

i'm an SE and have no problem with ducts going through bar joists. if you want to go through a wide flange or something, go ahead go back to the drawing board tho
Nobody has a problem with running duct through bar joist as long as the web openings are large enough to accomodate the duct size.  The problem arises when the ME fails to verify the opening sizes or they look at the standard opening for the joist size, see that it will work but then run the duct close enough to the bearing end that the openings have gotten smaller.  It then seems to fall on the GC and/or MC to come up with a solution.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: mocat on January 17, 2014, 01:13:01 PM
Their website shows that as the lowest cost one they make.  The MSRP on similar other models to the one you posted is $5,900-$9,300.

still, here's kind of what I'm talking about - the name "Viking" is a big deal to a lot of folks:

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/search/apa?zoomToPosting=&catAbb=apa&query=viking&minAsk=&maxAsk=&bedrooms=&housing_type=&excats=

that first one is an absolute steal at $4500
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: mocat on January 17, 2014, 01:16:27 PM
also, i love when people list a place to rent with the opening line 'LOCATION! LOCATION! LOCATION!"  :D
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on January 17, 2014, 01:17:15 PM
sorry about your thread, steve  :frown:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on January 17, 2014, 01:19:59 PM
sorry about your thread, steve  :frown:

I love it  :love:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ShellShock on January 17, 2014, 03:11:40 PM
why would anybody have a problem with ducts going through bar joists?  :confused:

My thought exactly? Also, you can pass through beams as long as you reinforce the web. There are restrictions though...as there are with anything
Ahh yes.......typical ME thought process:
"I want my ductwork to go here.  Let the SE or GC figure out how to build the building around it and we can just pass any added cost on to the owner."

You're welcome to sit at my desk for a day jackass...it's never that easy
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ShellShock on January 17, 2014, 03:13:49 PM
electric stove? WHAT AN IDIOT! (not sarcastic)
Hey dumbass. Some people live in the country in where they don't run natural gas. Feel free to stop being a dumbass.

take it to the camping thread.

Agreed
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: star seed 7 on January 17, 2014, 03:15:54 PM
Engineers and architects should have a mandatory of 5 years working in the field so they can see how stupid all of them are.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: mocat on January 17, 2014, 03:17:03 PM
engineers aren't stupid. architects and contractors are stupid.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: star seed 7 on January 17, 2014, 03:17:46 PM
engineers aren't stupid. architects and contractors are stupid.

 :D
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ShellShock on January 17, 2014, 03:19:00 PM
Go with a nice set of Electrolux appliances if you really want to wow people. I've read very good reviews on them as well as my parents have a complete kitchen of Electrolux appliances. What kind of finish are you thinking about getting?

I would agree with the Viking folks as they are kickass. I'm planning on putting one in when I finish my kitchen remodel.

Don't buy Fridgidaire unless you're poor SD. If you're at that range of price point, just go grab some appliances off of craigslist or your local (crappy) Sears*.

*Disclaimer: Sears has some decent appliances if you weed through all the crap first.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ShellShock on January 17, 2014, 03:20:36 PM
Engineers and architects should have a mandatory of 5 years working in the field so they can see how stupid all of them are.

I agree with the field experience aspect. I worked in the construction field for years before I started practicing engineering in the office. Has definitely helped me out immensely.

To say that all engineers are stupid though, is an incorrect blanket statement.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on January 17, 2014, 03:21:41 PM
engineers aren't stupid. architects and contractors are stupid.

it's actually "engineers ain't stupid."
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: tdaver on January 17, 2014, 03:41:01 PM
Induction cooktop is the only acceptable alternative to gas.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: tdaver on January 17, 2014, 03:43:21 PM
SD - Have you decided on decking yet?  You really should consider ipe over the synthetic stuff.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on January 17, 2014, 04:23:37 PM
engineers aren't stupid. architects and contractors are stupid.

Your face is stupid!


Edit: also architects.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on January 17, 2014, 04:35:24 PM
engineers aren't stupid. architects and contractors are stupid.

yeah, tell that to the engineer that insisted we run fire sprinkler piping inside the purlin cavity on a metal building roof.   You know, where the insulation goes.   And because it's a great idea to have your fire sprinkler pipe on the outside of your insulation plane.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on January 17, 2014, 04:49:45 PM

SD - Have you decided on decking yet?  You really should consider ipe over the synthetic stuff.

Cedar
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ShellShock on January 17, 2014, 06:13:57 PM
engineers aren't stupid. architects and contractors are stupid.

yeah, tell that to the engineer that insisted we run fire sprinkler piping inside the purlin cavity on a metal building roof.   You know, where the insulation goes.   And because it's a great idea to have your fire sprinkler pipe on the outside of your insulation plane.

Fire protection "engineers" aren't real engineers...

**EDIT: In addition, I had a professor back in the day tell my whole class (I'm sure all ARE/CNS posters know who i'm talking about) that if you gave him three bananas, he could teach a monkey to design plumbing/fire protection systems.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: star seed 7 on January 17, 2014, 06:15:22 PM
engineers aren't stupid. architects and contractors are stupid.

yeah, tell that to the engineer that insisted we run fire sprinkler piping inside the purlin cavity on a metal building roof.   You know, where the insulation goes.   And because it's a great idea to have your fire sprinkler pipe on the outside of your insulation plane.

Fire protection "engineers" aren't real engineers...

 :lol:  coming from a ME (no offense 8man)
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ShellShock on January 17, 2014, 06:16:30 PM

SD - Have you decided on decking yet?  You really should consider ipe over the synthetic stuff.

Cedar

Great choice SD...I can tell more and more about you every day with your construction choices.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: mocat on January 17, 2014, 06:34:31 PM
engineers aren't stupid. architects and contractors are stupid.

yeah, tell that to the engineer that insisted we run fire sprinkler piping inside the purlin cavity on a metal building roof.   You know, where the insulation goes.   And because it's a great idea to have your fire sprinkler pipe on the outside of your insulation plane.

Fire protection "engineers" aren't real engineers...

**EDIT: In addition, I had a professor back in the day tell my whole class (I'm sure all ARE/CNS posters know who i'm talking about) that if you gave him three bananas, he could teach a monkey to design plumbing/fire protection systems.

Chuck is a world class piece of crap, tho
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: mocat on January 17, 2014, 06:36:10 PM
engineers aren't stupid. architects and contractors are stupid.

yeah, tell that to the engineer that insisted we run fire sprinkler piping inside the purlin cavity on a metal building roof.   You know, where the insulation goes.   And because it's a great idea to have your fire sprinkler pipe on the outside of your insulation plane.

Ok first off, fire protection engineers are stupid. Second, metal building? Stupid. I forgot about owners. Owners are stupid and architects only enhance their stupidity
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: mocat on January 17, 2014, 06:37:44 PM
engineers aren't stupid. architects and contractors are stupid.

Your face is stupid!


Edit: also architects.

99% of RFIs are a variation on the following: "hey we did it wrong. Is it still ok or are you going to make us re-do it?"
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: tdaver on January 17, 2014, 07:12:03 PM

SD - Have you decided on decking yet?  You really should consider ipe over the synthetic stuff.

Cedar

Good decision to use real wood.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on January 17, 2014, 07:40:25 PM
engineers aren't stupid. architects and contractors are stupid.

yeah, tell that to the engineer that insisted we run fire sprinkler piping inside the purlin cavity on a metal building roof.   You know, where the insulation goes.   And because it's a great idea to have your fire sprinkler pipe on the outside of your insulation plane.

Ok first off, fire protection engineers are stupid. Second, metal building? Stupid. I forgot about owners. Owners are stupid and architects only enhance their stupidity

Oh man!  Yep

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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: sys on January 17, 2014, 07:44:59 PM
if you're spending a fair bit of money, my mother had a gaggenau that is pretty impressive.  i don't have any particular thoughts on cheaper models (the one i have is fine, but i think most of them are).  i got it from here, for at least $150 less than the same model would have been locally.

http://www.ajmadison.com/


what kind of countertops are you getting?   :drool:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on January 17, 2014, 07:53:07 PM
Prolly granite
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: sys on January 17, 2014, 08:00:08 PM
Prolly granite

what kind?  link up some stone porn.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: slobber on January 17, 2014, 08:12:56 PM
Prolly granite
Not that you would have any, but get rid of your stoneware, it can scratch granite.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: sys on January 17, 2014, 08:14:49 PM
Prolly granite
Not that you would have any, but get rid of your stoneware, it can scratch granite.

that doesn't sound accurate.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on January 17, 2014, 10:17:59 PM
if you're spending a fair bit of money, my mother had a gaggenau that is pretty impressive.  i don't have any particular thoughts on cheaper models (the one i have is fine, but i think most of them are).  i got it from here, for at least $150 less than the same model would have been locally.

http://www.ajmadison.com/


what kind of countertops are you getting?   :drool:

that link is some rough ridin' bullshit because they won't deliver most of the good stuff anywhere outside of NJ/NY  :curse: like, is that the appliance company rules I'm assuming?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: sys on January 17, 2014, 10:28:17 PM
that link is some rough ridin' bullshit because they won't deliver most of the good stuff anywhere outside of NJ/NY  :curse: like, is that the appliance company rules I'm assuming?

they delivered to me (free), so yeah prolly some distributorship agreements specific to the brands you're looking at.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on January 17, 2014, 10:33:16 PM
appliance shopping is so weird. like, it's hard to get actual pricing of stuff online. you can get msrp but there are no real prices anywhere.  :angry:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: sys on January 17, 2014, 10:34:36 PM
where did you see the delivery restrictions?  i clicked on a couple of random high end cooking appliances and didn't see anything.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on January 17, 2014, 10:37:49 PM
where did you see the delivery restrictions?  i clicked on a couple of random high end cooking appliances and didn't see anything.

http://www.ajmadison.com/pages/series_zone_check/477/check/?sku=CFE29TSDSS

looks like its stuff that they are an "authorized dealer" of. makes sense I guess.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: sys on January 17, 2014, 10:56:57 PM
too bad.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on January 18, 2014, 07:25:28 AM
Someone call that sys linked place and get the price of that 30" Viking. TIA
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on January 18, 2014, 12:55:57 PM
Does someone have a consumer reports account login I can borrow for a day or two?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on January 18, 2014, 12:57:09 PM
Clams, they had a Sub Zero drink center floor model for $1,450 today. No damage or anything. May buy it if it's still there Monday.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on January 18, 2014, 12:57:41 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.tapatalk.com%2Fd%2F14%2F01%2F19%2Faguve4at.jpg&hash=7adbc4b83e40a735c5db5ebb0777ad103c42d9dd)
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on January 18, 2014, 12:58:14 PM
This is 5 sd posts in a row. Amazing.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: kim carnes on January 18, 2014, 01:04:21 PM
appliance shopping is so weird. like, it's hard to get actual pricing of stuff online. you can get msrp but there are no real prices anywhere.  :angry:

get a subzero fridge with a glass window.  those ooze class.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on January 18, 2014, 01:57:29 PM
engineers aren't stupid. architects and contractors are stupid.

yeah, tell that to the engineer that insisted we run fire sprinkler piping inside the purlin cavity on a metal building roof.   You know, where the insulation goes.   And because it's a great idea to have your fire sprinkler pipe on the outside of your insulation plane.

Fire protection "engineers" aren't real engineers...

**EDIT: In addition, I had a professor back in the day tell my whole class (I'm sure all ARE/CNS posters know who i'm talking about) that if you gave him three bananas, he could teach a monkey to design plumbing/fire protection systems.

no, this was an ARE that also taught at KSU for a while.

I miss Chuck.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ShellShock on January 18, 2014, 07:13:52 PM
Prolly granite
Not that you would have any, but get rid of your stoneware, it can scratch granite.

that doesn't sound accurate.

True story. The only thing they said that would hurt granite or silestone is stone dishes or diamonds.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: yoga-like_abana on January 18, 2014, 07:22:58 PM
This is 5 sd posts in a row. Amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neBO2LuU4F0
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: sys on January 18, 2014, 07:46:01 PM
Prolly granite
Not that you would have any, but get rid of your stoneware, it can scratch granite.

that doesn't sound accurate.

True story. The only thing they said that would hurt granite or silestone is stone dishes or diamonds.

a)  stoneware is a type of ceramic, not made of stone.  b)  it would have to be a stone harder than granite.  basically, other granite.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on January 21, 2014, 08:12:04 AM
walked the property with the builders and went over some stuff yesterday. need to have rock/brick, appliances, plumbing fixtures picked out in the next couple weeks to we can meet with the cabinet maker and the plumber can know where to put pipes or whatever plumbers put in stuff. discovered we have two of those boxes in the back corner of our property which we had hoped were outside of it. gonna have to put some bushes around them or just fence them off or something.

for appliances we are going to do a viking range and ge cafe other appliances in the kitchen. electrolux beverage center under the butlers pantry leading to the deck. fridge is counter depth. mrs. dave drinks a lot of tea and it will dispense hot water which was a big deal to her. range hood is just some generic stainless steal deal with grease catch things you empty out instead of those mesh filters. we decided to go with a heat & glo cosmo for the fireplace because it is shorter and wider and didn't have fake logs which we aren't fans of. can't pick out the granite/quartz/etc. until we meet with the cabinet guy and get the measurements. they are framining now and have these huge heater deals in the basement part of the foundation heating up the entire block. it was pretty fun picking all the stuff out that we've picked so far.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: pissclams on January 21, 2014, 08:30:24 AM
Clams, they had a Sub Zero drink center floor model for $1,450 today. No damage or anything. May buy it if it's still there Monday.

wow.  i wonder if you bought it?  would be super jealous if you did.  what a great way to keep your refreshments cold.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on January 21, 2014, 08:34:02 AM
Clams, they had a Sub Zero drink center floor model for $1,450 today. No damage or anything. May buy it if it's still there Monday.

wow.  i wonder if you bought it?  would be super jealous if you did.  what a great way to keep your refreshments cold.

no, it was gone whe we went back  :frown:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: pissclams on January 21, 2014, 08:36:03 AM
ya.  good price but who knows if they're really worth it over other brands.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ShellShock on January 21, 2014, 09:17:24 AM
Prolly granite
Not that you would have any, but get rid of your stoneware, it can scratch granite.

that doesn't sound accurate.

True story. The only thing they said that would hurt granite or silestone is stone dishes or diamonds.

a)  stoneware is a type of ceramic, not made of stone.  b)  it would have to be a stone harder than granite.  basically, other granite.

Ceramic is made from bunch of sand and other crap, which is coincidentally also a bunch of glass. Rough glass will scratch your countertops. If you don't believe me, take a nice rough stone pot and rub it around on your countertops. That was the number 1 rule we were told when we had our new countertops installed.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: yoga-like_abana on January 21, 2014, 09:26:13 AM
sd that sounds like a lot of fun but a big headache.. I'd need a software that would show me what everything would look like when its all put in there.. (did you get to do anything like that?  :love: )
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on January 21, 2014, 09:36:59 AM
sd that sounds like a lot of fun but a big headache.. I'd need a software that would show me what everything would look like when its all put in there.. (did you get to do anything like that?  :love: )

no, I wish we did. it is a lot of visualization but it is also for the builder because we've just been finding pictures of what we want and giving it to them and saying "like that". the entire house has been that way. we had them build us a house similar to one we already liked but then had them move walls and expand rooms and whatnot all over. they are great to work with so far though. the architect has been really good about slapping whatever we want into the design as long as we aren't moving certain stuff around. also, if we can't have something we want they are great about saying stuff like, "no, we can't move that wall and here's why. BUT, we could do this..." and then suggesting other stuff to accomodate what we are wanting.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: slobber on January 21, 2014, 09:38:16 AM
This house is going to be pretty rockin'. Congrats.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Skipper44 on January 21, 2014, 10:12:46 AM
walked the property with the builders and went over some stuff yesterday. need to have rock/brick, appliances, plumbing fixtures picked out in the next couple weeks to we can meet with the cabinet maker and the plumber can know where to put pipes or whatever plumbers put in stuff. discovered we have two of those boxes in the back corner of our property which we had hoped were outside of it. gonna have to put some bushes around them or just fence them off or something.

for appliances we are going to do a viking range and ge cafe other appliances in the kitchen. electrolux beverage center under the butlers pantry leading to the deck. fridge is counter depth. mrs. dave drinks a lot of tea and it will dispense hot water which was a big deal to her. range hood is just some generic stainless steal deal with grease catch things you empty out instead of those mesh filters. we decided to go with a heat & glo cosmo for the fireplace because it is shorter and wider and didn't have fake logs which we aren't fans of. can't pick out the granite/quartz/etc. until we meet with the cabinet guy and get the measurements. they are framining now and have these huge heater deals in the basement part of the foundation heating up the entire block. it was pretty fun picking all the stuff out that we've picked so far.
Did you look into doing built in fridge and freezer?  I know they get spendy but they look awesome and counter depth fridges have dick for space.  I mean, we have acres of cabinets full of crap that never gets used but I have to walk out to get something out the garage fridge daily because our counter depth fridge barely holds a gallon of milk.

A cheaper option that would give you the look of built ins and prolly come within a few hundred of a SS counter depth is a freezer-less fridge and matching upright freezer.  You lose the water and ice despenser but you may not care with your butlers pantry.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: chum1 on January 21, 2014, 10:40:36 AM
SD, did you consult your architect on options for putting a TV in the garage?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on January 21, 2014, 10:41:54 AM
built ins are nice, but I cringe when I think about the hassles mom and dad had when they had to replace their built in appliances because of changes in appliance size.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on January 21, 2014, 10:42:24 AM
yeah, we looked at them but but it didn't really fit with our kitchen set up. I'm hoping we will be fine with the space since we have the beverage center in the butlers pantry for drinks. our frige right now is a monster whirlpool and even with by binge supplies it has a lot of empty space. here are the ones we got:

http://products.geappliances.com/ApplProducts/Dispatcher?REQUEST=SpecPage&Sku=CYE23TSDSS#

http://www.electroluxappliances.com/Kitchen-Appliances/Refrigerators/Beverage-Center/EI24BC65GS.aspx
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on January 21, 2014, 10:43:31 AM
SD, did you consult your architect on options for putting a TV in the garage?

no, completely spaced it. will just roll something out there in front of my bag chair when needed I guess.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: yoga-like_abana on January 21, 2014, 11:05:30 AM
you guys should install one of those central air vacuums.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: slobber on January 21, 2014, 11:59:53 AM
Post pictures of landscaping.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: sys on January 21, 2014, 10:57:49 PM
Prolly granite
Not that you would have any, but get rid of your stoneware, it can scratch granite.

that doesn't sound accurate.

True story. The only thing they said that would hurt granite or silestone is stone dishes or diamonds.

a)  stoneware is a type of ceramic, not made of stone.  b)  it would have to be a stone harder than granite.  basically, other granite.

Ceramic is made from bunch of sand and other crap, which is coincidentally also a bunch of glass. Rough glass will scratch your countertops. If you don't believe me, take a nice rough stone pot and rub it around on your countertops. That was the number 1 rule we were told when we had our new countertops installed.

amazingly, you're mostly right about this.  apparently granites and ceramics both span quite a range from hard to soft, and plenty of ceramics are hard enough to scratch many granites (a few are hard enough to scratch all of them - ceramic knifes and such).
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ShellShock on January 22, 2014, 12:15:14 AM
Prolly granite
Not that you would have any, but get rid of your stoneware, it can scratch granite.

that doesn't sound accurate.

True story. The only thing they said that would hurt granite or silestone is stone dishes or diamonds.

a)  stoneware is a type of ceramic, not made of stone.  b)  it would have to be a stone harder than granite.  basically, other granite.

Ceramic is made from bunch of sand and other crap, which is coincidentally also a bunch of glass. Rough glass will scratch your countertops. If you don't believe me, take a nice rough stone pot and rub it around on your countertops. That was the number 1 rule we were told when we had our new countertops installed.

amazingly, you're mostly right about this.  apparently granites and ceramics both span quite a range from hard to soft, and plenty of ceramics are hard enough to scratch many granites (a few are hard enough to scratch all of them - ceramic knifes and such).

Backhanded compliment sys, but i'll take it!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: hemmy on January 22, 2014, 12:36:13 AM
get one of those stoves you can put your hand on.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: slobber on January 22, 2014, 08:07:45 AM
sys, I didn't realize the point was still up for debate. If I say something, it is true, unless I say something that is dripping with sarcasm, then, it is up to interpretation.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: sys on January 22, 2014, 11:58:16 AM
If I say something, it is true.

i've always assumed the exact opposite.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: slobber on January 22, 2014, 02:57:09 PM
If I say something, it is true.

i've always assumed the exact opposite.
That is because you are a meany! You big meany!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on February 02, 2014, 09:17:42 AM
how do I set up my house sound stuff? I am putting speakers in the covered deck and a mount for a tv out there. I'm going to have a sound bar on the family room tv. probably some built in speakers upstairs in a room or two. stuff like that. I want to control it from my iphone if possible. what kind of stuff do I need for all of this? I own no sound equipment other than a sony soundbar and wired sub which are probably on the way out because I don't want to deal with the wired sub part in the family room so I'm starting from scratch. I also know nothing about this stuff. also have a roku I guess but that may not be relevant to this question (though I'd like to be able to get the watch espn from it to the deck on occasion maybe). tia.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: pissclams on February 02, 2014, 09:57:25 AM
don't be pud and just get sonos the crap is great and wireless iphone too
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on February 02, 2014, 10:00:04 AM
don't be pud and just get sonos the crap is great and wireless iphone too

I don't want to move it around. I want it to already be in each room and ready to go (and I don't want to buy a ton of sonos's)
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on February 02, 2014, 10:15:08 AM
go find the audio version of flyertalk and ask them. i'm sure those guys would be more than willing to belt out tons of very informative and helpful posts.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: michigancat on February 02, 2014, 10:30:57 AM
AVS forum
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: pissclams on February 02, 2014, 10:53:24 AM
go find the audio version of flyertalk and ask them. i'm sure those guys would be more than willing to belt out tons of very informative and helpful posts.
tons?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on February 04, 2014, 01:17:23 PM
finalized appliances. didn't get the viking range because they said we had to take delivery of it this month to get the pricing.  :frown:

Got a GE Monogram dual fuel range

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fproducts.geappliances.com%2FMarketingObjectRetrieval%2FDispatcher%3FRequestType%3DImage%26amp%3BRecId%3D26804%26amp%3BVariant%3DMonogramSpecPhoto&hash=a0f2bdf5f1373e457c45ba79f8f239ba7314ad77)

GE Monogram dishwasher (only 42 db  :surprised: )

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fproducts.geappliances.com%2FMarketingObjectRetrieval%2FDispatcher%3FRequestType%3DImage%26amp%3BName%3D040306.jpg%26amp%3BVariant%3DViewLarger&hash=ea7a2f14ebae3efff870a2227555c2e3f000e6c1)

GE Cafe counter depth refrigerator and microwave

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.homedepot.com%2Fcatalog%2FproductImages%2F300%2Ff9%2Ff9043e16-6ae3-4e95-9f1f-2c67c62c3073_300.jpg&hash=dc620b0b9a62e7383a62b09472d8bc4af7e4ff50)
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.homedepot.com%2Fcatalog%2FproductImages%2F300%2Fc0%2Fc055fa96-1b1f-40f3-a1c8-6a8254d2e56b_300.jpg&hash=76415df3cf7135cdb098ba29c73e04689822eeae)

Zephyr hood

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ft0.gstatic.com%2Fimages%3Fq%3Dtbn%3AANd9GcSVSerSRfLQhr2W0lngJbPn9oVGKNs1FkhGGYAxOxB5gQWI4lbFfnxGNLZE&hash=3077ad56c28bd6c78d5942425c9c0743e5474257)

Electrolux under counter beverage center

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.emercedesbenz.com%2Fmagazine%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Felectrolux-beverage-center-2.jpg&hash=d3017f11d1eddbb7575bad1286a6cf2f8a4b5133)
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: pissclams on February 04, 2014, 02:14:42 PM
that's a shitload of rewards points
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on February 12, 2014, 06:26:44 PM
walked through with the builders today. have windows in and plumbing roughed in and it's starting to look like a real life house.  :excited:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: pissclams on February 12, 2014, 06:47:28 PM
when is it supposed to be done?  also pics.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on February 12, 2014, 06:59:51 PM

when is it supposed to be done?  also pics.

Late May'ish. Will get pics this weekend.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on February 12, 2014, 07:10:32 PM
oh man just in time for cws and i still have three months to buy my tent.  :Woot:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Tobias on February 12, 2014, 07:17:57 PM


when is it supposed to be done?  also pics.

Late May'ish. Will get pics this weekend.

highlight the locker room area - maybe have the help stack 30 packs there for a sense of scale?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on February 12, 2014, 07:19:43 PM


when is it supposed to be done?  also pics.

Late May'ish. Will get pics this weekend.

highlight the locker room area - maybe have the help stack 30 packs there for a sense of scale?

have fun staying inside the house. they have three kids and bedtime is like 8pm. meanwhile lsoc and i will be doing front yard keg stands til the sun comes up. :lol:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Tobias on February 12, 2014, 07:27:18 PM
have fun staying inside the house. they have three kids and bedtime is like 8pm. meanwhile lsoc and i will be doing front yard keg stands til the sun comes up. :lol:

i don't think you remember the master party suite very well  :confused:

i've basically got my own bathroom and wine bar setup, segregated from the rest of the house.  have fun freezing your ass off in south canada :lol:

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi256.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh193%2Fstevedaveksu%2Funtitled_zpse20233f6.png&hash=99b151bbba41c06e8d7d57096e29cfdd7260c381)
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on February 12, 2014, 07:33:53 PM
look man, i'm trying not to be mean here, i really am. but you're staying in the mudroom with lockers and a desk and unless you and your bros and your lady friends are all twelve inches tall then it's just going to be you standing in a room by yourself pounding some of mrs dave's wine coolers. sometimes i just have to laugh at the plans some of you guys on here hatch up, i really do. mudroom wine cooler party by yourself or front yard party with multiple tents and a bonfire? hmmmmm. hmmmmmm.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Tobias on February 12, 2014, 07:40:00 PM
look man, i'm trying not to be mean here, i really am. but you're staying in the mudroom with lockers and a desk and unless you and your bros and your lady friends are all twelve inches tall then it's just going to be you standing in a room by yourself pounding some of mrs dave's wine coolers. sometimes i just have to laugh at the plans some of you guys on here hatch up, i really do. mudroom wine cooler party by yourself or front yard party with multiple tents and a bonfire? hmmmmm. hmmmmmm.

guess what connects the front yard (nebraska wilderness) with the house (inside, climate controlled)?  an open garage with a beer pong table.  good luck sleeping on your party site, i'll just head inside and sleep while you pass out in a tent contoured over dirt clods :lol:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: GoodForAnother on February 12, 2014, 07:44:18 PM
pretty badass fridge, sd
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on February 12, 2014, 07:48:58 PM
look man, i'm trying not to be mean here, i really am. but you're staying in the mudroom with lockers and a desk and unless you and your bros and your lady friends are all twelve inches tall then it's just going to be you standing in a room by yourself pounding some of mrs dave's wine coolers. sometimes i just have to laugh at the plans some of you guys on here hatch up, i really do. mudroom wine cooler party by yourself or front yard party with multiple tents and a bonfire? hmmmmm. hmmmmmm.

guess what connects the front yard (nebraska wilderness) with the house (inside, climate controlled)?  an open garage with a beer pong table.  good luck sleeping on your party site, i'll just head inside and sleep while you pass out in a tent contoured over dirt clods :lol:

hmmmm. better purchase your front yard pass from lsoc or i pretty soon i guess. people sleeping inside pay triple though just fyi. also paypal.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Tobias on February 12, 2014, 07:50:22 PM
:party: and :kstategrad:, see you there daris!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 12, 2014, 08:28:59 PM


when is it supposed to be done?  also pics.

Late May'ish. Will get pics this weekend.

highlight the locker room area - maybe have the help stack 30 packs there for a sense of scale?

have fun staying inside the house. they have three kids and bedtime is like 8pm. meanwhile lsoc and i will be doing front yard keg stands til the sun comes up. :lol:

I have at least 1/3 of a cord of bone dry wood for our fire.  Still collecting
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Boom Roasted on February 12, 2014, 08:36:22 PM


when is it supposed to be done?  also pics.

Late May'ish. Will get pics this weekend.

highlight the locker room area - maybe have the help stack 30 packs there for a sense of scale?

have fun staying inside the house. they have three kids and bedtime is like 8pm. meanwhile lsoc and i will be doing front yard keg stands til the sun comes up. :lol:

I have at least 1/3 of a cord of bone dry wood for our fire.  Still collecting
I can bring enough to keep the fire going all night. What kind of grass SD?  Trying to figure out if I need a air mattress or if 22 beers will put me to bed.  Yeah your right it doesn't matter, I'll be toast after 18
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 12, 2014, 08:56:11 PM
Have monogram stuff in my rental.  It is way too nice for my tenants.  Wish I could swap it out
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: pissclams on February 12, 2014, 09:18:35 PM
i'll be sleeping in my special edition cws stretch limo in the driveway.  every morning after a very classy breakfast, my car will whisk me away to the cws stadium. 

Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Skipper44 on February 14, 2014, 10:03:26 AM
how do I set up my house sound stuff? I am putting speakers in the covered deck and a mount for a tv out there. I'm going to have a sound bar on the family room tv. probably some built in speakers upstairs in a room or two. stuff like that. I want to control it from my iphone if possible. what kind of stuff do I need for all of this? I own no sound equipment other than a sony soundbar and wired sub which are probably on the way out because I don't want to deal with the wired sub part in the family room so I'm starting from scratch. I also know nothing about this stuff. also have a roku I guess but that may not be relevant to this question (though I'd like to be able to get the watch espn from it to the deck on occasion maybe). tia.
are you going to have a dedicated media closet that all the wires for built in speakers are run to?

I would have 3 runs of Cat 5e or 6 run to anyplace you think you might want a tv (kids playroom, exercise room, office etc)

I am interested in what you decide to do for sound.  Most home theater receivers in $500ish range will have iphone control and powered zone 2 that would allow you to listen to Biebs while grilling on the deck while the wife has something else on in the kitchen. 

If you want all the upstairs speakers on the same system you are talking about nonconsumer gear like this http://www.amazon.com/Russound-MCAC3-Source-Zone-Controller/dp/B004CR9N32/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1392392911&sr=1-2&keywords=russound+mca-c3 (http://www.amazon.com/Russound-MCAC3-Source-Zone-Controller/dp/B004CR9N32/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1392392911&sr=1-2&keywords=russound+mca-c3) for upwards of $1500.

If you only have 2 zones upstairs (a pair of speakers in the Master bedroom and a pair in the master bath for example) I would buy 2 of AVRs like this http://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-TX-NR626-7-2-Channel-Network-Receiver/dp/B00BLGUKDE/ref=sr_1_12?s=aht&ie=UTF8&qid=1392393289&sr=1-12&keywords=zone+2 (http://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-TX-NR626-7-2-Channel-Network-Receiver/dp/B00BLGUKDE/ref=sr_1_12?s=aht&ie=UTF8&qid=1392393289&sr=1-12&keywords=zone+2)
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on February 14, 2014, 10:08:56 AM
how do I set up my house sound stuff? I am putting speakers in the covered deck and a mount for a tv out there. I'm going to have a sound bar on the family room tv. probably some built in speakers upstairs in a room or two. stuff like that. I want to control it from my iphone if possible. what kind of stuff do I need for all of this? I own no sound equipment other than a sony soundbar and wired sub which are probably on the way out because I don't want to deal with the wired sub part in the family room so I'm starting from scratch. I also know nothing about this stuff. also have a roku I guess but that may not be relevant to this question (though I'd like to be able to get the watch espn from it to the deck on occasion maybe). tia.
are you going to have a dedicated media closet that all the wires for built in speakers are run to?

I would have 3 runs of Cat 5e or 6 run to anyplace you think you might want a tv (kids playroom, exercise room, office etc)

I am interested in what you decide to do for sound.  Most home theater receivers in $500ish range will have iphone control and powered zone 2 that would allow you to listen to Biebs while grilling on the deck while the wife has something else on in the kitchen. 

If you want all the upstairs speakers on the same system you are talking about nonconsumer gear like this http://www.amazon.com/Russound-MCAC3-Source-Zone-Controller/dp/B004CR9N32/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1392392911&sr=1-2&keywords=russound+mca-c3 (http://www.amazon.com/Russound-MCAC3-Source-Zone-Controller/dp/B004CR9N32/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1392392911&sr=1-2&keywords=russound+mca-c3) for upwards of $1500.

If you only have 2 zones upstairs (a pair of speakers in the Master bedroom and a pair in the master bath for example) I would buy 2 of AVRs like this http://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-TX-NR626-7-2-Channel-Network-Receiver/dp/B00BLGUKDE/ref=sr_1_12?s=aht&ie=UTF8&qid=1392393289&sr=1-12&keywords=zone+2 (http://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-TX-NR626-7-2-Channel-Network-Receiver/dp/B00BLGUKDE/ref=sr_1_12?s=aht&ie=UTF8&qid=1392393289&sr=1-12&keywords=zone+2)

I have no idea to any of those questions you asked but  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Tobias on February 14, 2014, 10:10:02 AM
i'll be shocked if steve dave actually ends up buying something with more wires than the electrical plugin
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on February 14, 2014, 10:11:36 AM
i'll be shocked if steve dave actually ends up buying something with more wires than the electrical plugin

this would probably be a good "things that are cutoffs within their respective things"
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on February 14, 2014, 10:13:57 AM
yeah. when we go up for cws there are just going to be fifteen unconnected soundbars.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on February 20, 2014, 11:56:59 AM
do you guys know anything about range hood vents? I need a stainless chimney style wall mount one that is quiet.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: AppleJack on February 20, 2014, 11:58:28 AM
Steve - why don't you help us build a house for once?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on February 20, 2014, 12:04:34 PM
Steve - why don't you help us build a house for once?

because I'm terrible at it
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: sys on February 20, 2014, 12:31:19 PM
do you guys know anything about range hood vents? I need a stainless chimney style wall mount one that is quiet.

https://www.thenaturalhome.com/stainlesssteel.htm

got an undercab kobe from here.  weird website, but good price.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on February 20, 2014, 12:32:58 PM
do you guys know anything about range hood vents? I need a stainless chimney style wall mount one that is quiet.

https://www.thenaturalhome.com/stainlesssteel.htm

got an undercab kobe from here.  weird website, but good price.

thanks sys
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: puniraptor on February 20, 2014, 01:13:26 PM
vent size and material is as important to noise level as motor/fan is a tip i have for you
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on February 20, 2014, 01:18:50 PM
vent size and material is as important to noise level as motor/fan is a tip i have for you

explain
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: mocat on February 20, 2014, 01:20:40 PM
you should get a great big plush velvet vent is what he is saying
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: puniraptor on February 20, 2014, 01:30:55 PM
vent size and material is as important to noise level as motor/fan is a tip i have for you

explain

like you get the 1500$ super hood that is a stealth jet and your builder installs a 6" duct of this stuff
 (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.western-international.com%2FDrierVentHose.jpg&hash=0099b8986165f1be67a7901b56c3a6a071c486fc)
and you get 130 decibels of turbulent rushing air through your duct that is louder than the cheapest loudest hood you could have bought at woolworth's

just make sure they install a duct that is as bigger or bigger than the hood manufacturer's max recommended size
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: puniraptor on February 20, 2014, 01:32:48 PM
yeah super plush velvet too
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ChiComCat on February 20, 2014, 01:37:57 PM
how do I set up my house sound stuff? I am putting speakers in the covered deck and a mount for a tv out there. I'm going to have a sound bar on the family room tv. probably some built in speakers upstairs in a room or two. stuff like that. I want to control it from my iphone if possible. what kind of stuff do I need for all of this? I own no sound equipment other than a sony soundbar and wired sub which are probably on the way out because I don't want to deal with the wired sub part in the family room so I'm starting from scratch. I also know nothing about this stuff. also have a roku I guess but that may not be relevant to this question (though I'd like to be able to get the watch espn from it to the deck on occasion maybe). tia.
are you going to have a dedicated media closet that all the wires for built in speakers are run to?

I would have 3 runs of Cat 5e or 6 run to anyplace you think you might want a tv (kids playroom, exercise room, office etc)

I am interested in what you decide to do for sound.  Most home theater receivers in $500ish range will have iphone control and powered zone 2 that would allow you to listen to Biebs while grilling on the deck while the wife has something else on in the kitchen. 

If you want all the upstairs speakers on the same system you are talking about nonconsumer gear like this http://www.amazon.com/Russound-MCAC3-Source-Zone-Controller/dp/B004CR9N32/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1392392911&sr=1-2&keywords=russound+mca-c3 (http://www.amazon.com/Russound-MCAC3-Source-Zone-Controller/dp/B004CR9N32/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1392392911&sr=1-2&keywords=russound+mca-c3) for upwards of $1500.

If you only have 2 zones upstairs (a pair of speakers in the Master bedroom and a pair in the master bath for example) I would buy 2 of AVRs like this http://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-TX-NR626-7-2-Channel-Network-Receiver/dp/B00BLGUKDE/ref=sr_1_12?s=aht&ie=UTF8&qid=1392393289&sr=1-12&keywords=zone+2 (http://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-TX-NR626-7-2-Channel-Network-Receiver/dp/B00BLGUKDE/ref=sr_1_12?s=aht&ie=UTF8&qid=1392393289&sr=1-12&keywords=zone+2)

I have no idea to any of those questions you asked but  :thumbs:

http://www.sonos.com/

Has worked just fine for me.  Works with Spotify too so for $10 a month after setting it up you pretty much get all the music.  Also, the only question I would have to ask is if you have electrical outlets.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: mocat on February 20, 2014, 01:52:19 PM
Also, the only question I would have to ask is if you have electrical outlets.

they're called receptacles
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Tobias on February 20, 2014, 02:41:22 PM
Also, the only question I would have to ask is if you have electrical outlets.

they're called receptacles

what a dumbass :lol:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: mocat on February 20, 2014, 03:12:39 PM
steve dave you done gone and mumped this one up big time

THE DEATH OF STAINLESS

http://refrigerators.reviewed.com/news/so-long-stainless-whirlpool-introduces-a-new-finish-for-premium-kitchenshtm (http://refrigerators.reviewed.com/news/so-long-stainless-whirlpool-introduces-a-new-finish-for-premium-kitchenshtm)
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on February 20, 2014, 03:16:49 PM
we saw that ice white stuff and the gunmetal or whatever it is that GE has. pretty cool. they don't make those colors in high end appliances though.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: mocat on February 20, 2014, 03:17:44 PM
yeah i like stainless better anyway. never out of style.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on February 20, 2014, 03:42:42 PM
we saw that ice white stuff and the gunmetal or whatever it is that GE has. pretty cool. they don't make those colors in high end appliances though.

Bought a black ice toaster a yr ago.  Looks sweet and makes super good toast. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: sys on February 20, 2014, 06:25:42 PM
Bought a black ice toaster a yr ago.  Looks sweet and makes super good toast.

i have a stainless toaster, also makes good toast.  now what, cns?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on February 20, 2014, 07:58:48 PM
Bought a black ice toaster a yr ago.  Looks sweet and makes super good toast.

i have a stainless toaster, also makes good toast.  now what, cns?

Retro stuff can look really great when mixed in right.

Also, get ready for a bunch of American Pickers google ads now, guys.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Frankenklein on February 20, 2014, 10:31:41 PM
Also, the only question I would have to ask is if you have electrical outlets.

they're called receptacles
not by electricians
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: star seed 7 on February 20, 2014, 10:43:49 PM
Also, the only question I would have to ask is if you have electrical outlets.

they're called receptacles
not by electricians

uh
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Spracne on February 20, 2014, 11:04:03 PM
How about hiring a painter to paint a nice family portrait for above the limestone mantle?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: mocat on February 21, 2014, 08:25:41 AM
Also, the only question I would have to ask is if you have electrical outlets.

they're called receptacles
not by electricians

electricians don't know what they're talking about. same reason general contractors say "I-beams"
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on February 26, 2014, 07:05:48 PM
so, because of tons of annoying cabinetry design stuff and the fact that I don't want to look at a microwave where I can have one we now are going to have a microwave in a drawer. that's apparently a thing you can have. a drawer that is a microwave.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sharpusa.com%2FForHome%2FHomeAppliances%2FMicrowaves%2FModels%2F%7E%2Fmedia%2FSharpUSA%2FImages%2FForHome%2FAppliances%2FMicrowaveDrawerOvens%2FProducts%2FKB6524PS%2F6524PS_angle-open-dish_2.ashx%3Fbc%3DWhite%26amp%3Bdmc%3D0%26amp%3Bh%3D380%26amp%3Bw%3D480&hash=46cd31a3d8dd52d084c54738d30e979233f5f4b8)
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Post by: chum1 on February 26, 2014, 07:35:33 PM
If you are a guest in steve dave's house, be polite and do not openly judge him because of his weirdo microwave.
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Post by: steve dave on February 26, 2014, 07:36:47 PM
t-y
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Post by: Spracne on February 26, 2014, 07:45:03 PM
#Brags2Riches
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Post by: pissclams on February 26, 2014, 09:20:01 PM
just saw one of these microwave drawers on house hunters a couple of days ago
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Post by: Spracne on February 26, 2014, 09:23:23 PM
 
just saw one of these microwave drawers on house hunters a couple of days ago

I'm sure he had no clue that they were the trappings of wealth and luxury.  He just doesn't want you to think its weird. :Carl:
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 26, 2014, 09:31:35 PM
just saw one of these microwave drawers on house hunters a couple of days ago

I'm sure he had no clue that they were the trappings of wealth and luxury.  He just doesn't want you to think its weird. :Carl:

That is really an odd thing to consider a luxury

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Post by: Spracne on February 26, 2014, 09:39:31 PM
just saw one of these microwave drawers on house hunters a couple of days ago

I'm sure he had no clue that they were the trappings of wealth and luxury.  He just doesn't want you to think its weird. :Carl:

That is really an odd thing to consider a luxury

Microwaves are vulgar.  If you must own one, one shouldn't be forced to look upon it.
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 26, 2014, 09:40:22 PM
just saw one of these microwave drawers on house hunters a couple of days ago

I'm sure he had no clue that they were the trappings of wealth and luxury.  He just doesn't want you to think its weird. :Carl:

That is really an odd thing to consider a luxury

Microwaves are vulgar.  If you must own one, one shouldn't be forced to look upon it.

My microwave is hawt
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Post by: pissclams on February 26, 2014, 10:31:00 PM
are microwaves even safe?  doubt it.  if it's really cooking your food, how come you can't see the heat?  i think that there's something else going on in there but who knows. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Bloodfart on February 27, 2014, 12:10:55 AM
just saw one of these microwave drawers on house hunters a couple of days ago

I'm sure he had no clue that they were the trappings of wealth and luxury.  He just doesn't want you to think its weird. :Carl:

That is really an odd thing to consider a luxury

Microwaves are vulgar.  If you must own one, one shouldn't be forced to look upon it.

My microwave is hawt

That sounds dangerous.
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Post by: hemmy on February 27, 2014, 12:23:38 AM
are microwaves even safe?  doubt it.  if it's really cooking your food, how come you can't see the heat?  i think that there's something else going on in there but who knows. 

I like to stand in front of it while its running for extra safety. Make sure the food is nice and cooked.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on February 27, 2014, 06:20:49 AM
just saw one of these microwave drawers on house hunters a couple of days ago

I'm sure he had no clue that they were the trappings of wealth and luxury.  He just doesn't want you to think its weird. :Carl:

That is really an odd thing to consider a luxury

Microwaves are vulgar.  If you must own one, one shouldn't be forced to look upon it.

I don't mind built ins. Just didn't work with our cabinet depth where we wanted it. Would have had to be right next to the range which, at that point, we may as well ditch the hood vent and slap it over the range. Drawer was the best solution. Plus, it was cheaper than the microwave. They really aren't any more expensive.
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Post by: Johnny Wichita on February 27, 2014, 07:56:53 AM
The drawer microwave is the worst thing I've seen in a few days.  How awful. 
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Post by: dmartin on February 27, 2014, 08:05:30 AM
The drawer microwave is the worst thing I've seen in a few days.  How awful.

Looks really small too. Can you even fit a bag of popcorn in there?
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Post by: Tobias on February 27, 2014, 08:07:09 AM
nacho drawer :thumbs:
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Post by: steve dave on February 27, 2014, 08:13:17 AM
nacho drawer :thumbs:

 :thumbs:
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Post by: Bloodfart on February 27, 2014, 08:15:30 AM
So basically you will be bending over in your kitchen constantly.  Sounds great.
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Post by: Bloodfart on February 27, 2014, 08:18:20 AM
JK Steve Dave, my first reaction to that microwave was wow america. #1cat
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Post by: HELLHAMMER on February 27, 2014, 09:06:01 AM
Did George Jetson design that drawer microwave?
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Post by: CNS on February 27, 2014, 09:08:38 AM
Kids and that mic are like kids and really shiny red buttons that when hit basically self destruct your kitchen and all those in it. 
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Post by: Tobias on February 27, 2014, 09:11:26 AM
little person tanning booth
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Post by: Benja on February 27, 2014, 09:15:55 AM
I'm not sure why a microwave in a drawer strikes me as such an amazing development. I mean, they already invented the microwave a while back now. Most people would agree that was the hard part. These people seem to have just put the microwave in a drawer. Yet I still want one.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on February 27, 2014, 10:16:20 AM
drawer microwaves have a high failure rate
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Post by: slobber on February 27, 2014, 10:21:14 AM
drawer microwaves have a high failure rate
Have some friends with one....they also have a counter top version JUST setting on the counter top. NOT MOUNTED! I am hoping that they are better now, since my friend sd is getting one.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: puniraptor on February 27, 2014, 10:22:54 AM
drawer microwaves have a high failure rate

looks like mikey is in the pocket of BIG MICROWAVE, DOOR TYPE
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 27, 2014, 10:28:42 AM
I don't trust microwaves.  I heat my soup on the stove.  Also I heat up water for tea or for hot cocoa on the stove.  If Mrs Emo is making hot cocoa and I've discovered she used the microwave I heat my own water for mine. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: puniraptor on February 27, 2014, 10:29:19 AM
I don't trust microwaves.  I heat my soup on the stove.  Also I heat up water for tea or for hot cocoa on the stove.  If Mrs Emo is making hot cocoa and I've discovered she used the microwave I heat my own water for mine.

what don't you trust? their motives?
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Post by: Tobias on February 27, 2014, 10:29:50 AM
I don't trust microwaves.  I heat my soup on the stove.  Also I heat up water for tea or for hot cocoa on the stove.  If Mrs Emo is making hot cocoa and I've discovered she used the microwave I heat my own water for mine.

what don't you trust? their motives?

looks like we've got a BIG STOVE'R here
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: puniraptor on February 27, 2014, 10:31:05 AM
I don't trust microwaves.  I heat my soup on the stove.  Also I heat up water for tea or for hot cocoa on the stove.  If Mrs Emo is making hot cocoa and I've discovered she used the microwave I heat my own water for mine.

what don't you trust? their motives?

looks like we've got a BIG STOVE'R here

there's just no such thing as integrity any more   :blindfold:
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Post by: Emo EMAW on February 27, 2014, 10:32:54 AM
I don't trust microwaves.  I heat my soup on the stove.  Also I heat up water for tea or for hot cocoa on the stove.  If Mrs Emo is making hot cocoa and I've discovered she used the microwave I heat my own water for mine.

what don't you trust? their motives?

I don't know.  Put stuff inside it and it gets hot.  Okay.  But not metals?  Hmmmm...what's the deal there?  Nope I'll just use my stove.  At least I know how my stove works.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on February 27, 2014, 10:34:47 AM
I don't trust microwaves.  I heat my soup on the stove.  Also I heat up water for tea or for hot cocoa on the stove.  If Mrs Emo is making hot cocoa and I've discovered she used the microwave I heat my own water for mine.

what don't you trust? their motives?

I don't know.  Put stuff inside it and it gets hot.  Okay.  But not metals?  Hmmmm...what's the deal there?  Nope I'll just use my stove.  At least I know how my stove works.

Put stuff on the stove, it gets hot.  Okay.  But not tupper wear or paper plates?  Hmmm.....what's the deal there? 
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Post by: Emo EMAW on February 27, 2014, 10:36:04 AM
I don't trust microwaves.  I heat my soup on the stove.  Also I heat up water for tea or for hot cocoa on the stove.  If Mrs Emo is making hot cocoa and I've discovered she used the microwave I heat my own water for mine.

what don't you trust? their motives?

I don't know.  Put stuff inside it and it gets hot.  Okay.  But not metals?  Hmmmm...what's the deal there?  Nope I'll just use my stove.  At least I know how my stove works.

Put stuff on the stove, it gets hot.  Okay.  But not tupper wear or paper plates?  Hmmm.....what's the deal there?

That's easy to understand though.  Plastic melts.  Paper burns above like 450 deg F.  But explain to me dielectric breakdown.  You can't.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on February 27, 2014, 10:47:41 AM
 :dunno:

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Post by: Emo EMAW on February 27, 2014, 10:49:55 AM
Come over here and have a nice cup of green tea CNS.  I'll put the kettle on the stove.

Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Tobias on February 27, 2014, 10:50:52 AM
Come over here and have a nice cup of green tea CNS.  I'll put the kettle on the stove.

can't drive, doesn't have the source code to the car's computer :frown:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Skipper44 on February 27, 2014, 10:54:15 AM
drawer microwaves have a high failure rate
Have some friends with one....they also have a counter top version JUST setting on the counter top. NOT MOUNTED! I am hoping that they are better now, since my friend sd is getting one.
yep, I put the o/u on a $100 Sharp from Best Buy sitting on SD's countertop at 8 months from the birth of SD jr
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on February 27, 2014, 11:07:42 AM
Come over here and have a nice cup of green tea CNS.  I'll put the kettle on the stove.

:lick:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Benja on February 27, 2014, 11:18:27 AM
I want every appliance I own in a drawer. That way people will walk into the kitchen and be all like "why's your kitchen empty lol" and ill be all like "what oh no I got robbed" and make like a fake 911 call and stuff but then later be like "no but seriously all my stuff is in drawers".

Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Bloodfart on February 28, 2014, 12:04:16 AM
I don't trust microwaves.  I heat my soup on the stove.  Also I heat up water for tea or for hot cocoa on the stove.  If Mrs Emo is making hot cocoa and I've discovered she used the microwave I heat my own water for mine.

Micro waves   how do they work?
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Post by: HerrSonntag on February 28, 2014, 10:39:32 AM
I don't trust microwaves.  I heat my soup on the stove.  Also I heat up water for tea or for hot cocoa on the stove.  If Mrs Emo is making hot cocoa and I've discovered she used the microwave I heat my own water for mine.

Micro waves   how do they work?

There are zero compelling reasons to not trust microwaves.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: chum1 on February 28, 2014, 11:04:59 AM
I don't know exactly how microwaves work, but I'm certain that things like the devil and black magic are not involved.  I'm speaking only about non-drawer microwaves here.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on February 28, 2014, 11:08:32 AM
Drawer Microwaves : Ball Cancer

1:1? 
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Post by: slobber on February 28, 2014, 12:18:44 PM
Draw Microwaves : Ball Cancer

1:1?
sd, install two so you end up with one good one.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on March 19, 2014, 02:41:26 PM
drywall today  :Woot:

went with chamfered corners
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Post by: steve dave on March 19, 2014, 02:44:06 PM
went with quartz for all countertops other than butlers pantry/bar which is a black'ish granite.
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Post by: ShellShock on March 19, 2014, 04:49:45 PM
went with quartz for all countertops other than butlers pantry/bar which is a black'ish granite.

Good choice on the quartz! I had a couple of huge slabs put into my house a couple months ago and I couldn't be happier with them! Just don't drag rough ceramic over them or you'll scratch the crap out of the surface.
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Post by: steve dave on March 19, 2014, 07:13:47 PM
went with quartz for all countertops other than butlers pantry/bar which is a black'ish granite.

Good choice on the quartz! I had a couple of huge slabs put into my house a couple months ago and I couldn't be happier with them! Just don't drag rough ceramic over them or you'll scratch the crap out of the surface.

good protip. I have no idea what rough ceramic is, tho. Our island is the almost exact size (one one side) as a slab so we avoided a seam. otherwise we were going to go with granite to make sure we didn't have one.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on March 19, 2014, 07:25:40 PM
I think the bottom of some plates, etc qualify as rough ceramic.  Like, I am pretty sure my plates (dasnk (sp)) are.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on April 15, 2014, 01:46:12 PM
10'ish weeks until completion. painting interior today. pouring driveway this week. painting exterior next week. having a tough time picking exterior colors. have two cedar vertical beems on either side of the entrance we need to find a stain for. exterior is a mix of cement siding, shake siding (top) and this rock:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.culturedstone.ca%2Fimages%2FProducts-Textures%2FPro-Fit-Alpine-Ledgestone%2FPheasant-Pro-Fit-Alpine-Ledgestone-420117.jpg&hash=b2fb519142c496ed166eed865bbbcab4151e67f1)

Thinking a really dark gray for the garage doors and front door and a lighter gray for the rest of the house. Curious if it will look weird with the stained beems if we go too gray though.
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Post by: Tobias on April 15, 2014, 01:46:47 PM
do they not have limestone in omaha or what
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Post by: CNS on April 15, 2014, 01:53:08 PM
Check out Rare Gray at Sherwin Williams. Love that for a gray.  It changes a little in sunlight.  Sometimes It looks greenish, other times gray.  I really like it.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 15, 2014, 02:00:18 PM
i'm late to the drawer microwave party, but canco that they are elite.
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Post by: Benja on April 15, 2014, 02:11:00 PM
10'ish weeks until completion. painting interior today. pouring driveway this week. painting exterior next week. having a tough time picking exterior colors. have two cedar vertical beems on either side of the entrance we need to find a stain for. exterior is a mix of cement siding, shake siding (top) and this rock:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.culturedstone.ca%2Fimages%2FProducts-Textures%2FPro-Fit-Alpine-Ledgestone%2FPheasant-Pro-Fit-Alpine-Ledgestone-420117.jpg&hash=b2fb519142c496ed166eed865bbbcab4151e67f1)

Thinking a really dark gray for the garage doors and front dor and a lighter gray for the rest of the house. Curious if it will look weird with the stained beems if we go too gray though.

That's beautiful. Seriously.
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Post by: mocat on April 15, 2014, 02:12:20 PM
IMPACT PRO-TIP:   "vertical beams" are called columns
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 15, 2014, 02:13:33 PM
Then they pour driveway, make sure you get it the width of the 3 car garage, not some bump out
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Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on April 15, 2014, 02:30:20 PM
IMPACT PRO-TIP:   "vertical beams" are called columns

yup. and horizontal beams are called rows. look at excel if you get confused.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: meow meow on April 15, 2014, 02:35:49 PM
when they pour the driveway, make sure you are there in time to press your hands into the cement
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on April 15, 2014, 02:56:16 PM
Then they pour driveway, make sure you get it the width of the 3 car garage, not some bump out

yeah, this was actually one of mrs. dave's less weird deal breakers (most of her deal breakers were very weird). she said that if we ever had the bump out kind and she had to park a car in the third stall she hoped I had extra side mirror insurance on all of our vehicles.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on April 15, 2014, 02:56:40 PM
IMPACT PRO-TIP:   "vertical beams" are called columns

T-Y!
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Post by: Skipper44 on April 15, 2014, 03:07:29 PM
Side or front entry?
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Post by: steve dave on April 15, 2014, 03:08:07 PM
Side or front entry?

front
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Post by: sys on April 15, 2014, 11:17:22 PM
i don't like that rock facing at all.  rock that looks fake looks fake.
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Post by: ednksu on April 16, 2014, 05:41:15 AM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fphotos.napalm.net%2Fclubsi%2FPheasant-Pro-Fit-Alpine-Ledgestone-420117.jpg&hash=042daa46c1df25b08af3c008b8e27f4dba481f1f)

Not sure how you may like this.  Instead of gray, maybe consider going with a nice warm color like a dark red clay.  It would pick up the tones in your stone and go well with the cedar if you go natural with it.  Also I think it looks nice with the gray elsewhere making a nice color pairing without making too much of a splash.

ie: Sherman williams raven red, fire brick, or chinese red
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Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on April 16, 2014, 07:45:36 AM
paint the baby room purple with pak head wall paper around the bottom half.
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Post by: steve dave on April 16, 2014, 07:49:24 AM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fphotos.napalm.net%2Fclubsi%2FPheasant-Pro-Fit-Alpine-Ledgestone-420117.jpg&hash=042daa46c1df25b08af3c008b8e27f4dba481f1f)

Not sure how you may like this.  Instead of gray, maybe consider going with a nice warm color like a dark red clay.  It would pick up the tones in your stone and go well with the cedar if you go natural with it.  Also I think it looks nice with the gray elsewhere making a nice color pairing without making too much of a splash.

ie: Sherman williams raven red, fire brick, or chinese red

good protip but I live in Nebraska and every house has red on it somewhere (usually front door if they can't sneak it in somehwere else) and it's awful.
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Post by: dmartin on April 16, 2014, 07:57:17 AM
Then they pour driveway, make sure you get it the width of the 3 car garage, not some bump out

I wish I had known this was possible when we built our house. I hate the bump out....
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: mocat on April 16, 2014, 08:39:31 AM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fphotos.napalm.net%2Fclubsi%2FPheasant-Pro-Fit-Alpine-Ledgestone-420117.jpg&hash=042daa46c1df25b08af3c008b8e27f4dba481f1f)

Not sure how you may like this.  Instead of gray, maybe consider going with a nice warm color like a dark red clay.  It would pick up the tones in your stone and go well with the cedar if you go natural with it.  Also I think it looks nice with the gray elsewhere making a nice color pairing without making too much of a splash.

ie: Sherman williams raven red, fire brick, or chinese red

good protip but I live in Nebraska and every house has red on it somewhere (usually front door if they can't sneak it in somehwere else) and it's awful.

do brown then. like a natural wood look? i mean cedar is beautiful. why don't you just stain it a natural wood brown color
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Post by: steve dave on April 16, 2014, 08:46:05 AM
yeah, that's what we are prolly doing on the cedar COLUMNS. I think this is the stain we will use:

http://www.sherwin-williams.com/homeowners/color/find-and-explore-colors/stain-colors/details/SW3513/

Leaning towards this for the painted portion of the house:
http://www.sherwin-williams.com/homeowners/color/find-and-explore-colors/paint-colors-by-family/SW7025-backdrop/

This for the front door and garage doors:
https://www.sherwin-williams.com/homeowners/color/find-and-explore-colors/paint-colors-by-family/SW7020-black-fox/

Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 16, 2014, 08:46:24 AM
i don't like that rock facing at all.  rock that looks fake looks fake.

I agree.  We were going to do a wall/fireplace with that sort of facade but knew we'd end up walking into someone's house and seeing the exact same product from Home Depot or some crap.  As such we're biting the bullet and hiring to have done a real limestone version.  Sucks, but feels awesome.
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Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on April 16, 2014, 08:50:54 AM
DNR whole thread so sorry if this has been covered but are you doing the slam-proof drawers?  Those are the tits.
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Post by: steve dave on April 16, 2014, 08:53:02 AM
DNR whole thread so sorry if this has been covered but are you doing the slam-proof drawers?  Those are the tits.

No, we did full extensions but not the slow closers. It was $50 per drawer at about a million drawers for the slow close ones. the full extendsions were only $30. We also looked at the slow close cabinet doors but they were annoyingly slow to close.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 16, 2014, 08:59:25 AM
What kind of water features we talking?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on April 16, 2014, 09:02:10 AM
What kind of water features we talking?

there's a stream behind our house next to the walking trail but nothing in the yard. kinda OT but the neighborhood facebook page is lit up almost daily with coyote and mountain lion sightings and people losing their crap about their pets being in danger.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 16, 2014, 09:04:40 AM
What kind of water features we talking?

there's a stream behind our house next to the walking trail but nothing in the yard. kinda OT but the neighborhood facebook page is lit up almost daily with coyote and mountain lion sightings and people losing their crap about their pets being in danger.

Pool?

Judge the eff out of those critters sd
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on April 16, 2014, 09:05:43 AM
What kind of water features we talking?

there's a stream behind our house next to the walking trail but nothing in the yard. kinda OT but the neighborhood facebook page is lit up almost daily with coyote and mountain lion sightings and people losing their crap about their pets being in danger.

Pool?

Judge the eff out of those critters sd

no pool in my yard but the neighborhood pool is about 50 yards from the house. I'm going to put out dog food nightly for the wild animals.
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Post by: Emo EMAW on April 16, 2014, 09:16:43 AM
What kind of water features we talking?

there's a stream behind our house next to the walking trail but nothing in the yard. kinda OT but the neighborhood facebook page is lit up almost daily with coyote and mountain lion sightings and people losing their crap about their pets being in danger.

Pool?

Judge the eff out of those critters sd

no pool in my yard but the neighborhood pool is about 50 yards from the house. I'm going to put out dog food nightly for the wild animals.

Get a game camera.  Seriously.  That's how my Dad is attempting to enjoy pseudo retirement.  He's not even a hunter.
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Post by: steve dave on April 16, 2014, 09:21:06 AM
We also decided to just do Sonos throughout the house for audio. Getting the sound bar and sub for the living room, play5 for the deck and anywhere else we want to drag it and a play1 for the master/bath. Will add from there as needed. The Sonos stuff apparently never goes on sale. But, they are participating in the Berkshire Hathaway shareholder meeting stuff at Nebraska Furniture Mart so we pre-ordered it all at cost. Got ~$150 off each of the sub and soundbar, ~$80 off the 5 and ~$30 off the 1. I don't know if the KC NFM participates in the shareholder stuff but if they do it's a pretty great deal on everything they sell (if the manufacturer participates).
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on April 16, 2014, 09:21:29 AM
What kind of water features we talking?

there's a stream behind our house next to the walking trail but nothing in the yard. kinda OT but the neighborhood facebook page is lit up almost daily with coyote and mountain lion sightings and people losing their crap about their pets being in danger.

Pool?

Judge the eff out of those critters sd

no pool in my yard but the neighborhood pool is about 50 yards from the house. I'm going to put out dog food nightly for the wild animals.

Get a game camera.  Seriously.  That's how my Dad is attempting to enjoy pseudo retirement.  He's not even a hunter.

It would take pictures of people walking and jogging all day
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 16, 2014, 09:25:26 AM
What kind of water features we talking?

there's a stream behind our house next to the walking trail but nothing in the yard. kinda OT but the neighborhood facebook page is lit up almost daily with coyote and mountain lion sightings and people losing their crap about their pets being in danger.

Pool?

Judge the eff out of those critters sd

no pool in my yard but the neighborhood pool is about 50 yards from the house. I'm going to put out dog food nightly for the wild animals.

Get a game camera.  Seriously.  That's how my Dad is attempting to enjoy pseudo retirement.  He's not even a hunter.

It would take pictures of people walking and jogging all day

Hmmm, maybe some good shots of buns and cute puppies?  Set up an IFTTT recipe to auto upload to Dropbox, then crosspost to the Chive.  Profit!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on April 16, 2014, 09:26:54 AM
Set up an IFTTT recipe to auto upload to Dropbox, then crosspost to the Chive. 

I'm sorry, I don't speak Japanese.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: pissclams on April 16, 2014, 09:46:10 AM
We also decided to just do Sonos throughout the house for audio. Getting the sound bar and sub for the living room, play5 for the deck and anywhere else we want to drag it and a play1 for the master/bath. Will add from there as needed. The Sonos stuff apparently never goes on sale. But, they are participating in the Berkshire Hathaway shareholder meeting stuff at Nebraska Furniture Mart so we pre-ordered it all at cost. Got ~$150 off each of the sub and soundbar, ~$80 off the 5 and ~$30 off the 1. I don't know if the KC NFM participates in the shareholder stuff but if they do it's a pretty great deal on everything they sell (if the manufacturer participates).
you'll really like the sonos stuff.  i want to find out more about the BH NFM sale thing.  hopefully you got a free bridge w/ the order. that's about the best deal i've seen sonos offer.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on April 16, 2014, 10:06:56 AM
yeah steve dave set up a "game camera" but actually just use it to look at pics of soccer moms butts. :flush:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Tobias on April 16, 2014, 10:09:01 AM
is your HOA gonna be cool with your friday night DJamer.fm sonos sesh'n on the deck at midnight?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on April 16, 2014, 10:21:51 AM
is your HOA gonna be cool with your friday night DJamer.fm sonos sesh'n on the deck at midnight?

 :cry:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: _33 on April 16, 2014, 10:27:09 AM
Any word on garage door opener?????? 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on April 16, 2014, 10:27:52 AM
We also decided to just do Sonos throughout the house for audio. Getting the sound bar and sub for the living room, play5 for the deck and anywhere else we want to drag it and a play1 for the master/bath. Will add from there as needed. The Sonos stuff apparently never goes on sale. But, they are participating in the Berkshire Hathaway shareholder meeting stuff at Nebraska Furniture Mart so we pre-ordered it all at cost. Got ~$150 off each of the sub and soundbar, ~$80 off the 5 and ~$30 off the 1. I don't know if the KC NFM participates in the shareholder stuff but if they do it's a pretty great deal on everything they sell (if the manufacturer participates).
you'll really like the sonos stuff.  i want to find out more about the BH NFM sale thing.  hopefully you got a free bridge w/ the order. that's about the best deal i've seen sonos offer.

Just checked
http://www.berkshirehathaway.com/meet01/VisGuide2014.pdf

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NEBRASKA FURNITURE MART
Shareholder Discount Tuesday, April 29
through Monday, May 5
(Available at the Omaha store only)

I'm not planning to get a bridge because the soundbar will be wired with Cat6 and the sales guy said if I had one piece wired I wouldn't need the bridge.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on April 16, 2014, 10:28:15 AM
Any word on garage door opener??????

STILL NOPE!!!!!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on April 16, 2014, 03:20:23 PM
yeah, that's what we are prolly doing on the cedar COLUMNS. I think this is the stain we will use:

http://www.sherwin-williams.com/homeowners/color/find-and-explore-colors/stain-colors/details/SW3513/

Leaning towards this for the painted portion of the house:
http://www.sherwin-williams.com/homeowners/color/find-and-explore-colors/paint-colors-by-family/SW7025-backdrop/

This for the front door and garage doors:
https://www.sherwin-williams.com/homeowners/color/find-and-explore-colors/paint-colors-by-family/SW7020-black-fox/

Mr. Blandings Builds His Dreamhouse
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on April 16, 2014, 03:30:33 PM
yes, I am very reserved in my use of color. but this is def. not my dream house.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on April 23, 2014, 07:52:05 AM
getting ready to order the thermostat/humidifier controls. do both the nest and the honeywell one do humidifier controls as well? of all the honeywells which one is best? they have a million.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on April 23, 2014, 09:19:59 AM
I was going to get a Nest a while ago and ended up not getting it.  Bunch of super bad reviews on Amazon and other places. Basically they said that the Nest would not remember settings if it lost power and can cause freezing issues in the winter if it occurs at the right time, some ppl saying it trips out often and just runs super hot heat uncontrollably, some ppl saying it trips out and runs AC and Heat simultaneously.  Nest actually responded to some of these reviews and said that they recognize the problem and were working on it for the next Gen.

Also, some of the reviews were by service tech types saying they love the Nest because it keeps them busy and getting paid.

I don't have one, but just seems like a lot of neg response.   :dunno:

They sound awesome if none of the above is true.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Tobias on April 23, 2014, 09:25:24 AM
evil google nest /p1k3
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on April 23, 2014, 09:25:37 AM
yeah, the guy putting in the HVAC system at my house said he wouldn't recomend them but would put the nest up if I wanted. he is having me buy whatever type I want and he will mount it so I don't think it's him trying to sell me something buy maybe :dunno:. right now he's just got the spec crappy thermostat and humidifier control boxes up. I don't want to buy a fancy thermostat and have that crappy looking humidifier control right next to it so I'd like an all in one thing if possible. nest doesn't have humidifier controls from what I can tell.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: pissclams on April 23, 2014, 09:26:17 AM
I was going to get a Nest a while ago and ended up not getting it.  Bunch of super bad reviews on Amazon and other places. Basically they said that the Nest would not remember settings if it lost power and can cause freezing issues in the winter if it occurs at the right time, some ppl saying it trips out often and just runs super hot heat uncontrollably, some ppl saying it trips out and runs AC and Heat simultaneously.  Nest actually responded to some of these reviews and said that they recognize the problem and were working on it for the next Gen.

Also, some of the reviews were by service tech types saying they love the Nest because it keeps them busy and getting paid.

I don't have one, but just seems like a lot of neg response.   :dunno:

They sound awesome if none of the above is true.

this is pretty much true of every product sold on amazon.  these are complicated pieces of electronics, they break.  when they do, you return them and get it replaced.

fwiw you need to make sure whatever thermostat you're looking at plays nice with the furnace/ac you're buying
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 23, 2014, 09:26:24 AM
Apparently when you are having a contractor do some work at your house, they want both spouses to be there to discuss it...How annoying. I told Gooch to tell them that in our marriage we allow each other to make decisions.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 23, 2014, 09:27:16 AM
Nest looks gimmicky, I got a Honeywell touch screen thing with a few zones and I can set its schedule from my tablet and freeze out my 6 kids if they aren't behaving all while sitting at my desk.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: yoEMAW on April 23, 2014, 09:30:50 AM
Apparently when you are having a contractor do some work at your house, they want both spouses to be there to discuss it...How annoying. I told Gooch to tell them that in our marriage we allow each other to make decisions.

That was the nicest/least sexist way they could think of to tell you that they wanted to run it by the man of the house first.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 23, 2014, 09:35:09 AM
Apparently when you are having a contractor do some work at your house, they want both spouses to be there to discuss it...How annoying. I told Gooch to tell them that in our marriage we allow each other to make decisions.

That was the nicest/least sexist way they could think of to tell you that they wanted to run it by the man of the house first.

No, Gooch is scheduling the appointments but they want me to be there too. (Hence that is why I told Gooch to tell them that we allow each other to make decisions.) And it is only for an initial estimate.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 23, 2014, 09:39:38 AM
Apparently when you are having a contractor do some work at your house, they want both spouses to be there to discuss it...How annoying. I told Gooch to tell them that in our marriage we allow each other to make decisions.

That was the nicest/least sexist way they could think of to tell you that they wanted to run it by the man of the house first.

No, Gooch is scheduling the appointments but they want me to be there too. (Hence that is why I told Gooch to tell them that we allow each other to make decisions.) And it is only for an initial estimate.

They want you there to harp on him to agree to the remodeling on the spot.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 23, 2014, 09:42:09 AM
Apparently when you are having a contractor do some work at your house, they want both spouses to be there to discuss it...How annoying. I told Gooch to tell them that in our marriage we allow each other to make decisions.

That was the nicest/least sexist way they could think of to tell you that they wanted to run it by the man of the house first.

No, Gooch is scheduling the appointments but they want me to be there too. (Hence that is why I told Gooch to tell them that we allow each other to make decisions.) And it is only for an initial estimate.

They want you there to harp on him to agree to the remodeling on the spot.

I'm sure that the reason is that they don't want to have to change things because the other spouse doesn't like the way things were agreed to...but this is just for an initial estimate. We aren't picking out cabinets.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: IPA4Me on April 23, 2014, 09:42:28 AM
Apparently when you are having a contractor do some work at your house, they want both spouses to be there to discuss it...How annoying. I told Gooch to tell them that in our marriage we allow each other to make decisions.

That was the nicest/least sexist way they could think of to tell you that they wanted to run it by the man of the house first.

No, Gooch is scheduling the appointments but they want me to be there too. (Hence that is why I told Gooch to tell them that we allow each other to make decisions.) And it is only for an initial estimate.
They want to close on one trip. If both decision makers aren't there, they are less likely to be able to close the deal. Plus it gives the one decision maker an easy put to delay the deal. Many contractors won't even schedule without both spouses present.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 23, 2014, 09:47:18 AM
Apparently when you are having a contractor do some work at your house, they want both spouses to be there to discuss it...How annoying. I told Gooch to tell them that in our marriage we allow each other to make decisions.

That was the nicest/least sexist way they could think of to tell you that they wanted to run it by the man of the house first.

No, Gooch is scheduling the appointments but they want me to be there too. (Hence that is why I told Gooch to tell them that we allow each other to make decisions.) And it is only for an initial estimate.
They want to close on one trip. If both decision makers aren't there, they are less likely to be able to close the deal. Plus it gives the one decision maker an easy put to delay the deal. Many contractors won't even schedule without both spouses present.

What they don't realize is that I am the one who is going to delay things...He would agree to pay whatever they want much quicker.
And IT IS JUST AN INITIAL ESTIMATE...I don't have time to take off work and drive all the way across town just so they can give a rough estimate of how much it is going to cost....and do that with all the places he is getting estimates from....and then just end up doing it how he wants anyway.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on April 23, 2014, 09:50:26 AM
have you tried punching them or threatening them or telling them that? any of those?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Institutional Control on April 23, 2014, 09:54:44 AM
I would just say that you're going to both be there.  When the contractor shows up, tell him that something came up at work and you won't be there. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 23, 2014, 09:56:19 AM
have you tried punching them or threatening them or telling them that? any of those?

I'd have to be there in person to punch them.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Tobias on April 23, 2014, 09:56:55 AM
handle your crap gooch
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: IPA4Me on April 23, 2014, 10:15:49 AM
getting ready to order the thermostat/humidifier controls. do both the nest and the honeywell one do humidifier controls as well? of all the honeywells which one is best? they have a million.
This is a nice setup. Can control humidifier. Also dehumidifies by overcooling up to 3F. Is internet accessible if you add Gateway ($84). Uses wireless outdoor and indoor sensors. This kit also includes portable comfort control.

http://www.amazon.com/Honeywell-YTHX9321R5061-Prestige%C2%AE-Comfort-System/dp/B005Y29KL4
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Panjandrum on April 23, 2014, 10:45:14 AM
have you tried punching them or threatening them or telling them that? any of those?

I'd have to be there in person to punch them.

Then they've already called your bluff.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: dmartin on April 24, 2014, 08:06:27 AM
DNR whole thread so sorry if this has been covered but are you doing the slam-proof drawers?  Those are the tits.

No, we did full extensions but not the slow closers. It was $50 per drawer at about a million drawers for the slow close ones. the full extendsions were only $30. We also looked at the slow close cabinet doors but they were annoyingly slow to close.

what about slow close toilet seats?  They're great but they spoil you. Can't count how many times I've slammed the seat when away from home because I'm used to the slow close. We've got the slow close on the cabinets and drawers and love them. Doesn't seem to slow. might be adjustable.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Tobias on April 24, 2014, 08:09:24 AM
slow close stuff weirds me out.  i like to feel in control of toilets and drawers
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 24, 2014, 08:38:06 AM
I love my Nest.  :dunno:

That being said I bet a lot of dumbasses buy them online and don't know how to install them correctly.  Mixing up the wires would cause some major issues.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on April 24, 2014, 08:41:46 AM
I love my Nest.  :dunno:

That being said I bet a lot of dumbasses buy them online and don't know how to install them correctly.  Mixing up the wires would cause some major issues.

does it control your humidifier (if you have one)?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 24, 2014, 08:49:42 AM
I love my Nest.  :dunno:

That being said I bet a lot of dumbasses buy them online and don't know how to install them correctly.  Mixing up the wires would cause some major issues.

does it control your humidifier (if you have one)?

Yes/no.  Like, if in the winter time you check the humidity via Nest and it's low, you can turn on the fan only via Nest and when the fan comes on the humidifier runs.  But you can't set a humidifier setting on Nest (like 35% humidity for example) and have it automatically run to maintain that minimum humidity.  My furnace is oversized and very efficient so it doesn't run very much in the winter and therefore the humidifier isn't able to give much humidity boost.  If I leave it completely alone it's around 25% throughout the winter. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Institutional Control on April 24, 2014, 08:51:17 AM
I can't wait to see my room. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on April 29, 2014, 10:11:05 AM
Purchased sonos stuff today with Berkshire discount. Playbar $543, sub $481, play 5 $310, bridge $38
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Tobias on April 29, 2014, 10:13:03 AM
did you end up getting a sonos thermostat which adjusts to party rock levels?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 29, 2014, 10:25:03 AM
did you end up getting a sonos thermostat which adjusts to party rock levels?

that would be sweet, you play "Hot in Herre" and it cranks it to 95
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 29, 2014, 10:26:42 AM
Purchased sonos stuff today with Berkshire discount. Playbar $543, sub $481, play 5 $310, bridge $38

I bet that system would sound bangin' from a tent in the front lawn. #FYBH


also, tent = camping @asava
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 29, 2014, 10:28:13 AM
man, did the boozecats really screw this up.  #omaha
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 29, 2014, 10:29:39 AM

I bet that system would sound bangin' from a tent in the front lawn. #FYBH

also, tent = camping @asava

in? on? who gives a crap? #FYBH
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: IPA4Me on April 30, 2014, 09:58:04 AM
What's the HVAC decision? Two systems? One with zoning? What thermostat? HVAC dudes want to know these important details.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on May 12, 2014, 12:33:29 PM
Just one system IPA4Me. I priced two but the HVAC contractor said I wouldn't see any benefit because we are less than 2,700 sq ft and the floor plan is very open. He said he'd sell me two units but it wouldn't pay off. Also I gave into peer pressure and the elite looks pressure and other pressure and went with the Nest. What now?

http://afspecialsauce.kinja.com/are-nest-thermostats-killing-air-conditioners-1574174163/1575088178/+ace

 :ohno:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on May 12, 2014, 12:35:37 PM
Probably should consider going ahead and starting the next house.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 12, 2014, 12:48:17 PM
Guys the Nest Early On feature is bullshit.  :curse:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ChiComCat on May 12, 2014, 12:52:13 PM
Purchased sonos stuff today with Berkshire discount. Playbar $543, sub $481, play 5 $310, bridge $38

Let me know if there is some way another poster on this blog could use said discount
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: XocolateThundarr on May 12, 2014, 01:13:43 PM
Just one system IPA4Me. I priced two but the HVAC contractor said I wouldn't see any benefit because we are less than 2,700 sq ft and the floor plan is very open. He said he'd sell me two units but it wouldn't pay off. Also I gave into peer pressure and the elite looks pressure and other pressure and went with the Nest. What now?

http://afspecialsauce.kinja.com/are-nest-thermostats-killing-air-conditioners-1574174163/1575088178/+ace

 :ohno:

I've had my Nest for at least a couple of years (can't remember when I installed it).  Has been absolutely awesome with no issues.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: meow meow on May 12, 2014, 01:59:55 PM
building a house sounds like a pain in the ass
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on May 12, 2014, 02:08:32 PM
Purchased sonos stuff today with Berkshire discount. Playbar $543, sub $481, play 5 $310, bridge $38

Let me know if there is some way another poster on this blog could use said discount

you could have by letting me know what you wanted and having me buy it for them but unfortunately it was only valid during the berkshire meeting  :frown:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Boom Roasted on May 12, 2014, 08:30:06 PM
What kind of washer n dryer are you getting?  Someone help SD out. 

Also, my washer is on the fritz so it would be helpful to me too.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on May 12, 2014, 08:31:56 PM

What kind of washer n dryer are you getting?  Someone help SD out. 

Also, my washer is on the fritz so it would be helpful to me too.

Some whirlpool front load ones. No idea on model and stuff. Also purchased with Berkshire discount.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: IPA4Me on May 13, 2014, 05:10:57 AM
Just one system IPA4Me. I priced two but the HVAC contractor said I wouldn't see any benefit because we are less than 2,700 sq ft and the floor plan is very open. He said he'd sell me two units but it wouldn't pay off. Also I gave into peer pressure and the elite looks pressure and other pressure and went with the Nest. What now?

http://afspecialsauce.kinja.com/are-nest-thermostats-killing-air-conditioners-1574174163/1575088178/+ace

 :ohno:
We're now a corporate partner with Nest. We'll see how it goes.

Hope the new house is comfortable.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on May 20, 2014, 01:29:41 PM
@pissclams, they finally set the soaker tub. It's, like, 7 feet deep

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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on May 20, 2014, 01:31:38 PM
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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 20, 2014, 01:32:20 PM
Looks awesome but seems like there's a lot of wasted space with the way it is placed.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on May 20, 2014, 01:33:13 PM
looks great, scuba steve dave
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: slobber on May 20, 2014, 01:33:16 PM
That thing is awkwardly awesome. I love it.
I hope they put a larger water supply line into that thing. If they didn't, tell them to change that crap out right now.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on May 20, 2014, 01:33:51 PM
Looks awesome but seems like there's a lot of wasted space with the way it is placed.

yeah, plus it's going to be a pain in the ass to clean around there.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Skipper44 on May 20, 2014, 01:35:15 PM
That thing is awkwardly awesome. I love it.
I hope they put a larger water supply line into that thing. If they didn't, tell them to change that crap out right now.
prolly needs it's own hot water heater too
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: pissclams on May 20, 2014, 02:03:13 PM
@pissclams, they finally set the soaker tub. It's, like, 7 feet deep

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man that is a tub for a prince or a princess or a king. or a queen. 

mrs sd is a very lucky lady.  should have put a window in there *lower* so she doesn't feel like she's soaking in a closet but that's nothing a chainsaw can't fix.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: pissclams on May 20, 2014, 02:04:59 PM
i'd put a tv in there so i could watch the cats while soaking and chugging mimosas ksudeuce style
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: pissclams on May 20, 2014, 02:06:10 PM
if you ever sell that house, that tub is going to seal the deal.  women won't be able to walk away from the grandiose son of a bitch.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Skipper44 on May 20, 2014, 02:09:06 PM
i'd put a tv in there so i could watch the cats while soaking and chugging mimosas ksudeuce style
also, a TV viewable from the tub is great for getting the kids of a horrible and lazy parent to take baths.  The key is in-ceiling speakers hooked to the tv so you can gE from the bed in peace.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: pissclams on May 20, 2014, 02:11:48 PM
kids break everything that is nice. if i owned that tub i would have an electric fence around it and any kid entering my house would be forced to wear the collars.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Spracne on May 20, 2014, 02:40:39 PM
That's looks like a tub I could really relax in while musing on the hundreds of children that die each day for want of access to clean drinking water.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on May 20, 2014, 02:43:06 PM
Looks awesome but seems like there's a lot of wasted space with the way it is placed.

yeah, plus it's going to be a pain in the ass to clean around there.

that was my first thought.   
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Tobias on May 20, 2014, 02:44:27 PM
hey steve dave can i take a bath in it during the college wor... [redacted].
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 20, 2014, 03:22:09 PM
hey steve dave can i take a bath in it during the college wor... [redacted].

yea... pretty much
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on May 21, 2014, 03:37:19 PM
http://www.androidheadlines.com/2014/05/google-begin-serving-ads-nest-thermostats-soon.html (http://www.androidheadlines.com/2014/05/google-begin-serving-ads-nest-thermostats-soon.html)
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Google to Begin Serving ads on Nest Thermostats Soon

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According to the SEC, Google has informed them that they are planning to begin serving ads on Nest Thermostats. Google bought Nest a few months ago, and is their new in-house hardware partner, basically. Now when Google purchased Nest, we all began to joke around about seeing Google+ tie into Nest as well as seeing ads on our Nest. Well now it appears we may be getting ads after all. I mean, that is Google’s primary source of revenue, over 90% of it. Google intends to serve ads on “refrigerators, car dashboards, thermostats, glasses, and watches, to name just a few possibilities.” According to a letter from Google to the SEC.
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Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on May 21, 2014, 03:39:28 PM
http://www.androidheadlines.com/2014/05/google-begin-serving-ads-nest-thermostats-soon.html (http://www.androidheadlines.com/2014/05/google-begin-serving-ads-nest-thermostats-soon.html)
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Google to Begin Serving ads on Nest Thermostats Soon

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According to the SEC, Google has informed them that they are planning to begin serving ads on Nest Thermostats. Google bought Nest a few months ago, and is their new in-house hardware partner, basically. Now when Google purchased Nest, we all began to joke around about seeing Google+ tie into Nest as well as seeing ads on our Nest. Well now it appears we may be getting ads after all. I mean, that is Google’s primary source of revenue, over 90% of it. Google intends to serve ads on “refrigerators, car dashboards, thermostats, glasses, and watches, to name just a few possibilities.” According to a letter from Google to the SEC.

Glad I never bought one.   That's BS, people who owned one before the buyout should be exempted - they didn't agree to that.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: pissclams on May 21, 2014, 03:41:25 PM
take it down a notch, CNeSt casey

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Update: Google offered the following comment on the matter:

""We are in contact with the SEC to clarify the language in this 2013 filing, which does not reflect Google's product roadmap. Nest, which we acquired after this filing was made, does not have an ads-based model and has never had any such plans."
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 21, 2014, 03:45:51 PM
Looks awesome but seems like there's a lot of wasted space with the way it is placed.

yeah, plus it's going to be a pain in the ass to clean around there.

No one but your maids will care about that.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Mr Bread on May 21, 2014, 04:02:34 PM
It looks like a gigantic sink and also sort of like a soap dish, but bigger of course (deeper too).  It just doesn't look like something that humans climb into to soak I guess is what it is. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 21, 2014, 04:05:38 PM
It looks like a gigantic sink and also sort of like a soap dish, but bigger of course (deeper too).  It just doesn't look like something that humans climb into to soak I guess is what it is.

What else would humans be doing in there?  :eek:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on May 21, 2014, 04:20:13 PM
take it down a notch, CNeSt casey

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Update: Google offered the following comment on the matter:

""We are in contact with the SEC to clarify the language in this 2013 filing, which does not reflect Google's product roadmap. Nest, which we acquired after this filing was made, does not have an ads-based model and has never had any such plans."

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Google intends to serve ads on “refrigerators, car dashboards, thermostats, glasses, and watches, to name just a few possibilities.” According to a letter from Google to the SEC.

I mean, it's possible that the SEC is misquoting Google, but that seems kinda weird.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Mr Bread on May 21, 2014, 04:26:53 PM
It looks like a gigantic sink and also sort of like a soap dish, but bigger of course (deeper too).  It just doesn't look like something that humans climb into to soak I guess is what it is.

What else would humans be doing in there?  :eek:

Humans, nothing.  Giants?  A place to wash their hands or put their bars of soap. 

It doesn't look like it was designed for a human body to relax in.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: pissclams on May 21, 2014, 04:52:57 PM
take it down a notch, CNeSt casey

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Update: Google offered the following comment on the matter:

""We are in contact with the SEC to clarify the language in this 2013 filing, which does not reflect Google's product roadmap. Nest, which we acquired after this filing was made, does not have an ads-based model and has never had any such plans."

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Google intends to serve ads on “refrigerators, car dashboards, thermostats, glasses, and watches, to name just a few possibilities.” According to a letter from Google to the SEC.

I mean, it's possible that the SEC is misquoting Google, but that seems kinda weird.  :dunno:

also seems weird that you ignored what i posted but hey it's possible
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Mr Bread on May 21, 2014, 04:55:21 PM
Yikes.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on May 21, 2014, 04:55:52 PM
It looks like a gigantic sink and also sort of like a soap dish, but bigger of course (deeper too).  It just doesn't look like something that humans climb into to soak I guess is what it is.

What else would humans be doing in there?  :eek:

Humans, nothing.  Giants?  A place to wash their hands or put their bars of soap. 

It doesn't look like it was designed for a human body to relax in.

ms tonyas sister in law gave birth to a child in one of those things except i think it had hot tub jets and maybe some other cool features. it was rented though. i assume steve daves is child birth free and owned.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Mr Bread on May 21, 2014, 04:57:22 PM
Disgusting.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 22, 2014, 08:30:14 AM
It looks like a gigantic sink and also sort of like a soap dish, but bigger of course (deeper too).  It just doesn't look like something that humans climb into to soak I guess is what it is.

What else would humans be doing in there?  :eek:

Humans, nothing.  Giants?  A place to wash their hands or put their bars of soap. 

It doesn't look like it was designed for a human body to relax in.

ms tonyas sister in law gave birth to a child in one of those things except i think it had hot tub jets and maybe some other cool features. it was rented though. i assume steve daves is child birth free and owned.

Did they have to clean it before returning to the rental place?  :runaway:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: slobber on May 22, 2014, 08:38:03 AM
That thing is awkwardly awesome. I love it.
I hope they put a larger water supply line into that thing. If they didn't, tell them to change that crap out right now.
Did they use a larger water supply line? I think standard is 1/2 in. On larger baths, or lakes like that thing, they often install a 3/4 inch.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on May 22, 2014, 08:45:15 AM
That thing is awkwardly awesome. I love it.
I hope they put a larger water supply line into that thing. If they didn't, tell them to change that crap out right now.
Did they use a larger water supply line? I think standard is 1/2 in. On larger baths, or lakes like that thing, they often install a 3/4 inch.

I asked our builder and he said we can adjust flow to it if we want. I'm going to fire it up and see how fast it fills up and then make them do it if needed.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on May 22, 2014, 08:47:39 AM
We're moving in on the 29th whether it's all the way done or not. We've still got the exterior paint, sprinkler, sod, landscaping but that stuff can come after we're in. The only stuff we are waiting on inside is the electrician to finish up, touch up paint, cleaning, and punch list.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Tobias on May 22, 2014, 08:49:57 AM
can we modify cws bingefest to be a world cup bingefest?  some of arsenal's players will be playing and stuff.

(i can pound busch light's and burn cartons of heaters with the help if you're worried about that interfering)
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on May 22, 2014, 08:52:32 AM
can we modify cws bingefest to be a world cup bingefest?  some of arsenal's players will be playing and stuff.

(i can pound busch light's and burn cartons of heaters with the help if you're worried about that interfering)

yes, confirmed
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on May 22, 2014, 09:19:00 AM
That thing is awkwardly awesome. I love it.
I hope they put a larger water supply line into that thing. If they didn't, tell them to change that crap out right now.
Did they use a larger water supply line? I think standard is 1/2 in. On larger baths, or lakes like that thing, they often install a 3/4 inch.

I asked our builder and he said we can adjust flow to it if we want. I'm going to fire it up and see how fast it fills up and then make them do it if needed.

Builder for "turn your faucet all the way on".
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on May 22, 2014, 09:52:00 AM
That thing is awkwardly awesome. I love it.
I hope they put a larger water supply line into that thing. If they didn't, tell them to change that crap out right now.
Did they use a larger water supply line? I think standard is 1/2 in. On larger baths, or lakes like that thing, they often install a 3/4 inch.

I asked our builder and he said we can adjust flow to it if we want. I'm going to fire it up and see how fast it fills up and then make them do it if needed.

Builder for "turn your faucet all the way on".


LOL, yeah, I was wondering myself how they plan to "adjust" the rough-in in a nearly completed home.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: pissclams on May 22, 2014, 09:52:52 AM
That thing is awkwardly awesome. I love it.
I hope they put a larger water supply line into that thing. If they didn't, tell them to change that crap out right now.
Did they use a larger water supply line? I think standard is 1/2 in. On larger baths, or lakes like that thing, they often install a 3/4 inch.

I asked our builder and he said we can adjust flow to it if we want. I'm going to fire it up and see how fast it fills up and then make them do it if needed.

Builder for "turn your faucet all the way on".


LOL, yeah, I was wondering myself how they plan to "adjust" the rough-in in a nearly completed home.

drag a garden hose to tub, turn on.  great part about that solution is that you can remove the hose when you're done filling the tub.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: slobber on May 22, 2014, 10:10:00 AM
I have an upstairs shower on the opposite end of my house that needs to have its flow adjusted. Send your builder to NC for me.

Honestly, I don't know what he can do, but you flat out will not like using that tub if it takes 15 minutes to fill. It can be a real mood killer (no "KATDADDY NO!").
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on May 22, 2014, 10:27:37 AM
That thing is awkwardly awesome. I love it.
I hope they put a larger water supply line into that thing. If they didn't, tell them to change that crap out right now.
Did they use a larger water supply line? I think standard is 1/2 in. On larger baths, or lakes like that thing, they often install a 3/4 inch.

I asked our builder and he said we can adjust flow to it if we want. I'm going to fire it up and see how fast it fills up and then make them do it if needed.

Builder for "turn your faucet all the way on".


LOL, yeah, I was wondering myself how they plan to "adjust" the rough-in in a nearly completed home.
Short of adding some sort of pump, just turn the water on full hot and check on it every 30min or so until full.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 22, 2014, 10:32:02 AM
Pro tip: that tub will get used less than once a month.  But it looks cool, and that's what counts in my book
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: slobber on May 22, 2014, 10:35:50 AM
Pro tip: that tub will get used less than once a month.  But it looks cool, and that's what counts in my book
Especially since they have a baby that eats like William "The Refrigerator" Perry.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 22, 2014, 10:39:27 AM
Pro tip: that tub will get used less than once a month.  But it looks cool, and that's what counts in my book
Especially since they have a baby that eats like William "The Refrigerator" Perry.

Not sure the relation but I know we have a big 'cuzzi tub and it never gets used.  Can't imagine one without the jets will get much more use.  But it's not uncommon to have stuff in your house that never gets used.  see, my downstairs home gym
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on May 22, 2014, 10:54:56 AM
Pro tip: that tub will get used less than once a month.  But it looks cool, and that's what counts in my book
Especially since they have a baby that eats like William "The Refrigerator" Perry.

Not sure the relation but I know we have a big 'cuzzi tub and it never gets used.  Can't imagine one without the jets will get much more use.  But it's not uncommon to have stuff in your house that never gets used.  see, my downstairs home gym

the only time our garden jet tub has been used was after my back injury.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 22, 2014, 10:59:35 AM
Pro tip: that tub will get used less than once a month.  But it looks cool, and that's what counts in my book
Especially since they have a baby that eats like William "The Refrigerator" Perry.

Maybe they are expecting the baby to get big enough to require that size tub soon from eating so much?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on May 22, 2014, 01:04:02 PM
Pro tip: that tub will get used less than once a month.  But it looks cool, and that's what counts in my book

agree
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: meow meow on May 22, 2014, 03:50:50 PM
i bet it would really suck to try and give a baby/small kid a bath in that sweet gigantic bath tub
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 22, 2014, 03:57:43 PM
i bet it would really suck to try and give a baby/small kid a bath in that sweet gigantic bath tub

SD is planning on having  5 or 6 kids and fill the tub with them.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: asava on May 30, 2014, 01:58:09 PM
Purchased sonos stuff today with Berkshire discount. Playbar $543, sub $481, play 5 $310, bridge $38

I bet that system would sound bangin' from a tent in the front lawn. #FYBH


also, tent = camping @asava

 :facepalm:

you mother rough rider.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: KSUblumpkin on May 30, 2014, 04:00:25 PM
I just had a house built.  The process sucked.  I started caring about things I shouldn't (colors, fixtures, showers, wood, counters).  It was like a bad HGTV show every damn day.  Would not recommend.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 30, 2014, 04:03:48 PM
Purchased sonos stuff today with Berkshire discount. Playbar $543, sub $481, play 5 $310, bridge $38

I bet that system would sound bangin' from a tent in the front lawn. #FYBH


also, tent = camping @asava

 :facepalm:

you mother rough rider.

this was fun.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: asava on May 30, 2014, 04:06:39 PM
i certainly enjoyed it.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on May 30, 2014, 10:42:37 PM
REVIEW:

no grass or plants and junk yet

covered deck was a great idea. very worth it. it's hot.

bath fills up fast'ish (7 or so minutes). we have boss water pressure! maybe stuff bursts later? hopefully not.

all furniture should have the little felt pads included. what a pain in the ass.

nest thermostat gave cox guy a coxboner. really nerded out for a bit.

new house got the record score for like spending less money on gas/electric/water in the neighborhood or something. guy said it had a lot to do with what direction our house and windows and stuff faced. the thing says we're only going to spend $2k a year on gas/water/electric which does not seem possible at all. HOPEFULLY THOUGH!

get the faucet that turns on automatically if you put your hand over it. way worth it. not that much more expensive.

neighbors across the street are "driveway" neighbors. go out on the deck like a normal person you freaks.

dogs, dogs EVERYWHERE

kids, kids also EVERYWHERE


Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on May 30, 2014, 10:47:41 PM
addition:

I've messed up the garage code thing enough that the 1-2-3-4 code no longer works but the new code I wanted to change it to also doesn't work. we are at an impasse.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Tobias on May 30, 2014, 10:53:37 PM
get your ass in here _33 :curse:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on May 30, 2014, 10:54:50 PM
garage door thing is the bicycle chain one _33. I forgot to ask about it before I saw it. it seems good!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Tobias on May 30, 2014, 11:02:52 PM
good intel on WT driveway hang'rs, they should have no problem with our urban camping
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on May 30, 2014, 11:08:21 PM
good intel on WT driveway hang'rs, they should have no problem with our urban camping

they seem like they may bother you. they just went inside. two males talking about something (bothering people?)?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: michigancat on May 30, 2014, 11:10:37 PM
Steve Dave, are there any minorities
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on May 30, 2014, 11:16:31 PM
Steve Dave, are there any minorities

I'm glad you asked michigancat. It is a good opening to another story I have. You see, a thing that people do in NE because they are stupid Nebraskans is immediately tell their new neighbors which NU football players live in their neighborhood. Our neighborhood has Tommie Frazier and a guy named Lawrence Pete who I'm told played in the NFL for a bit. BOTH CONFIRMED MINORITIES (googled the second guy to confirm).
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: michigancat on May 30, 2014, 11:17:16 PM
Holy crap that's fantastic
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on May 30, 2014, 11:17:59 PM
Holy crap that's fantastic

I already know that
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 31, 2014, 12:06:53 AM
7 minutes seems long, turn up that pressure
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 31, 2014, 12:18:32 AM
good intel on WT driveway hang'rs, they should have no problem with our urban camping

they seem like they may bother you. they just went inside. two males talking about something (bothering people?)?

Sounds like they would probably crush miller lites tho.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: star seed 7 on May 31, 2014, 02:24:44 AM
Steve Dave, are there any minorities

I'm glad you asked michigancat. It is a good opening to another story I have. You see, a thing that people do in NE because they are stupid Nebraskans is immediately tell their new neighbors which NU football players live in their neighborhood. Our neighborhood has Tommie Frazier and a guy named Lawrence Pete who I'm told played in the NFL for a bit. BOTH CONFIRMED MINORITIES (googled the second guy to confirm).

i know you hate me sd, but can i come meet tommie frazier... he's a childhood hero of mine  :pray:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on May 31, 2014, 07:17:14 AM
I don't hate you, what a weird thing to say
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: pissclams on May 31, 2014, 11:13:25 AM
Steve Dave, are there any minorities

I'm glad you asked michigancat. It is a good opening to another story I have. You see, a thing that people do in NE because they are stupid Nebraskans is immediately tell their new neighbors which NU football players live in their neighborhood. Our neighborhood has Tommie Frazier and a guy named Lawrence Pete who I'm told played in the NFL for a bit. BOTH CONFIRMED MINORITIES (googled the second guy to confirm).

i know you hate me sd, but can i come meet tommie frazier... he's a childhood hero of mine  :pray:

tommy frazier, childhood hero?  what the crap.  nubbcat08
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: slobber on May 31, 2014, 06:25:56 PM
Also, 7 minutes?  :Chirp: :Chirp: :Chirp: :frown: :Chirp: :Chirp: :blank:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Cartierfor3 on May 31, 2014, 09:14:27 PM
the wave your hand faucet always seems to annoy old CF3 because sometimes it does not work.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: _33 on May 31, 2014, 09:25:25 PM
garage door thing is the bicycle chain one _33. I forgot to ask about it before I saw it. it seems good!

Chain is ok, I would have gone belt for the noise factor but to each his own.  Chamberlain?  MyQ technology?  Battery backup? Does the light turn on automatically when you go into the garage?  NEED SOME DEETS. (details)
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: pissclams on May 31, 2014, 10:27:07 PM
would rather have a wave your hand toilet
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on May 31, 2014, 10:37:37 PM
garage door thing is the bicycle chain one _33. I forgot to ask about it before I saw it. it seems good!

Chain is ok, I would have gone belt for the noise factor but to each his own.  Chamberlain?  MyQ technology?  Battery backup? Does the light turn on automatically when you go into the garage?  NEED SOME DEETS. (details)

I have no idea on any of these things but will find out (probably not)
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on May 31, 2014, 10:38:57 PM
Have read about a blue tooth thingy that will let your smartphone be a keypad for your garage door.

You should get that.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on May 31, 2014, 10:41:53 PM
Have read about a blue tooth thingy that will let your smartphone be a keypad for your garage door.

You should get that.

true story about my garage door keypad: I'm at about a 5 last night. go out to change the keypad from the builder's 1-2-3-4 code which WTF my luggage code etc. Anyway, I manage to change it from that to some mystery code which is not the one I wanted to. Now it's programmed to mys-code and completely useless to me. WHAT NOW?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on May 31, 2014, 10:44:56 PM
Have read about a blue tooth thingy that will let your smartphone be a keypad for your garage door.

You should get that.

true story about my garage door keypad: I'm at about a 5 last night. go out to change the keypad from the builder's 1-2-3-4 code which WTF my luggage code etc. Anyway, I manage to change it from that to some mystery code which is not the one I wanted to. Now it's programmed to mys-code and completely useless to me. WHAT NOW?

Manual will tell you how to sober that up to factory settings.

Or, Just call your builder and claim warranty issue or something.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: wetwillie on May 31, 2014, 11:09:14 PM
Have read about a blue tooth thingy that will let your smartphone be a keypad for your garage door.

You should get that.

true story about my garage door keypad: I'm at about a 5 last night. go out to change the keypad from the builder's 1-2-3-4 code which WTF my luggage code etc. Anyway, I manage to change it from that to some mystery code which is not the one I wanted to. Now it's programmed to mys-code and completely useless to me. WHAT NOW?

Have Saul open it remotely and reset your password to 9-18-14(day we beat auburn)
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ChiComCat on June 01, 2014, 10:24:23 AM
Have read about a blue tooth thingy that will let your smartphone be a keypad for your garage door.

You should get that.

true story about my garage door keypad: I'm at about a 5 last night. go out to change the keypad from the builder's 1-2-3-4 code which WTF my luggage code etc. Anyway, I manage to change it from that to some mystery code which is not the one I wanted to. Now it's programmed to mys-code and completely useless to me. WHAT NOW?

Have Saul open it remotely and reset your password to 9-18-14(day we beat auburn)

Get a giant keypad that goes to 18
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on June 10, 2014, 04:41:06 PM
for those readers considering a Nest

http://www.theverge.com/2014/6/10/5793536/the-heat-is-on-honeywell-is-finally-ready-to-challenge-nest
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 12, 2014, 09:00:46 AM
When we moved into our house a relative came over to be there when the cable guy shows up while we were moving from the old place.  I get there and this person is like "um hey did you know there's a black family just a few houses down?"  I'm like, uh, yes, so?  "Oh, well I just wanted you to know."  "Hey, you live next door to a black family, and caddy corner to another.  The first one used to baby sit us sometimes, and the second will have a member in my sister's wedding!"  "Oh um oh, uh, well I just wanted you to know."  :sdeek: :sdeek:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Havs on June 12, 2014, 09:08:56 AM
Steve Dave, are there any minorities

I'm glad you asked michigancat. It is a good opening to another story I have. You see, a thing that people do in NE because they are stupid Nebraskans is immediately tell their new neighbors which NU football players live in their neighborhood. Our neighborhood has Tommie Frazier and a guy named Lawrence Pete who I'm told played in the NFL for a bit. BOTH CONFIRMED MINORITIES (googled the second guy to confirm).

i know you hate me sd, but can i come meet tommie frazier... he's a childhood hero of mine  :pray:

tommy frazier, childhood hero?  what the crap.  nubbcat08

Pfffft. Eric Crouch or bust.

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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: WillieWatanabe on June 12, 2014, 09:24:54 AM
man. i want to see pics of SD's house(not creepy). sounds amazing  :love:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Tobias on June 12, 2014, 09:25:15 AM
eff you brad hill
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on June 12, 2014, 10:13:16 AM
finally got sod and landscaping put in yesterday! sprinklers are set to go off 4 times a day  :sdeek: supposed to let it get super jungly before I mow it. I need mowing protips. I haven't mowed a yard since highschool. I had people at the old place but am going to hayseed it and tackle this chore myself. bought this to do it:

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mowersdirect.com%2Fproduct-images%2Fproduct_7830_500.jpg&hash=242e9cdc5e3f073525baa48fb83a4033e08ec64f)

the most beginner'est of pro-tips as well as high level ones are all appreciated
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Tobias on June 12, 2014, 10:14:39 AM
saul, please check into this account hijacking
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Tobias on June 12, 2014, 10:15:37 AM
have you picked out mowing shoes?  are you going to wear a bandana?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Gooch on June 12, 2014, 10:16:26 AM
have you picked out mowing shoes?  are you going to wear a bandana?
I'm sure he will ALWAYS go shirtless.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Shooter Jones on June 12, 2014, 10:16:31 AM
like elite crayon colorers, mow the outside edges first, then mow the body at a 45 degree angle, SD. yard will look elite.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on June 12, 2014, 10:18:02 AM
have you picked out mowing shoes?  are you going to wear a bandana?

YES! my two pairs ago Mizunos (newest pair are indoor treadmill Mizunos, older pair are outdoor Mizunos, third oldest are mowing/gross chore Mizunos). No to bandana.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on June 12, 2014, 10:19:09 AM
what's with bagging and mulching? what's better?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Tobias on June 12, 2014, 10:20:14 AM
what is the return policy on the honda?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on June 12, 2014, 10:20:57 AM
what is the return policy on the honda?

YOU GET OUT OF HERE!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Tobias on June 12, 2014, 10:21:40 AM
do you have an edger and all that other stuff?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Tobias on June 12, 2014, 10:22:03 AM
broadcast spreader?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 12, 2014, 10:22:29 AM
what's with bagging and mulching? what's better?

mulch.

and you should have got a Kohler motor
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on June 12, 2014, 10:23:22 AM
do you have an edger and all that other stuff?

no. mower, gas can (5 gallon), another thing of mower oil because I guess you are supposed to change mower oil sometimes (?). On Pete's recomendo I had the landscape guy put in landscaping I wouldn't have to go up against and could just mow over the edge or whatever.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Tobias on June 12, 2014, 10:24:43 AM
hmm well you'll probably need to edge and stuff so your hayseed front porch neighbors don't make fun of you
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on June 12, 2014, 10:25:11 AM
hmm well you'll probably need to edge and stuff so your hayseed front porch neighbors don't make fun of you

how often?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Tobias on June 12, 2014, 10:25:15 AM
also, let your money guy know that your summer shandy budget is about to go through the roof
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 12, 2014, 10:26:44 AM
I learned this summer that you need to mow when the neighbor's wives will be outside their houses, then peel the shirt and get to work.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Tobias on June 12, 2014, 10:28:00 AM
hmm well you'll probably need to edge and stuff so your hayseed front porch neighbors don't make fun of you

how often?

i do mine just a few times a summer, more regularly touchup with weed eater
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on June 12, 2014, 10:28:50 AM
SD, the absolute most important thing you can do is get your ipod/fav android device loaded up with your new fav jams and get some really good noise isolation ear buds.  Then all you have to do is  :billdance: only with the mower in self-propelled mode.

Also, get the name of a lawn guy that doesn't mind doing the job every once in a while.  That way if you just don't feel like it this week, he has your back.  It's like Christmas in June, sometimes.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 12, 2014, 10:34:50 AM
Here goes:

1)  I bag the front yard so I don't have to sweep or blow clippings off the driveway/sidewalk. 
2)  On the times that I edge (like 30% of the time), I edge first so that those clippings are sucked into the mower when I mow.  (efficiency!)
3)  I usually cut the back at a higher height than the front, especially in the spring, so that the roots can grow strong and then I can water less in the summer.
4)  Alternate the directions you cut.  Week 1 cut West/East, Week 2 cut North/South.  If you're super fancy you can get diagonal sometimes.
5)  When you start your first cut, go off something with a good linear reference, like a straight sidewalk, driveway, or fence line. 
6)  Prepare yourself to smile and wave at your neighbors as their walk their dog by.  Sometimes you might feel inclined for small talk.  This is really the best part of lawn mowing, IMO.
7)  If you can, time your mow the day before garbage day so your clippings go straight to the driveway instead of garage for a few days.
8)  Crocs are surprisingly great for mowing. 
9)  You might top off your tank before each mow.  I don't, and inevitably the thing dies way in the back yard and I have to walk up and get the gas and walk down and fill and walk back and put it away and walk back to finish mowing.  (poor efficiency!)
10)  Seriously, prepare to wave and smile your rough ridin' face off! 
11)  Also, standard dress might be some crocs or tennis shoes (no socks), some cargo shorts, and a crappy t-shirt that preferably you bought on vacation somewhere.  Bonus points if it's Senor Frogs or some other Mexican drinking place. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on June 12, 2014, 10:37:23 AM
Small talk is a huge don't, imo.  I mean, how long do you want this to take?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 12, 2014, 10:39:53 AM
Getting to know your neighbors is part of the process CNS.  The time spent should be seen as an investment that will pay huge dividends!  :D
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Mr Bread on June 12, 2014, 10:41:43 AM
Don't mow off your toes or feet under any circumstances. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 12, 2014, 10:42:44 AM
My advice is to marry someone who can mow the lawn for you but be prepared to start paying for a service in about 13 years when they get tired of mowing.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Tobias on June 12, 2014, 10:44:58 AM
My advice is to marry someone who can mow the lawn for you but be prepared to start paying for a service in about 13 years when they get tired of mowing.

he shouldn't be allowed to leave the kitchen anyways
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Mr Bread on June 12, 2014, 10:47:26 AM
My advice is to marry someone who can mow the lawn for you but be prepared to start paying for a service in about 13 years when they get tired of mowing.

he shouldn't be allowed to leave the kitchen anyways

Once you let the balls out of the purse then he starts getting his own ideas and hopes and dreams.  Huge mistake by Mrs. Gooch there. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Daddy Claxton on June 12, 2014, 10:49:59 AM
Get a cheaper mower. You'll be back to a lawn service by this time next year and wondering why you ever mowed yourself.

If you are going to mow yourself, get metal file (like $3 at wal mart) and spend 5 minutes to sharpen the blade once a month.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on June 12, 2014, 10:51:01 AM
Here goes:

1)  I bag the front yard so I don't have to sweep or blow clippings off the driveway/sidewalk. 
2)  On the times that I edge (like 30% of the time), I edge first so that those clippings are sucked into the mower when I mow.  (efficiency!)
3)  I usually cut the back at a higher height than the front, especially in the spring, so that the roots can grow strong and then I can water less in the summer.
4)  Alternate the directions you cut.  Week 1 cut West/East, Week 2 cut North/South.  If you're super fancy you can get diagonal sometimes.
5)  When you start your first cut, go off something with a good linear reference, like a straight sidewalk, driveway, or fence line. 
6)  Prepare yourself to smile and wave at your neighbors as their walk their dog by.  Sometimes you might feel inclined for small talk.  This is really the best part of lawn mowing, IMO.
7)  If you can, time your mow the day before garbage day so your clippings go straight to the driveway instead of garage for a few days.
8)  Crocs are surprisingly great for mowing. 
9)  You might top off your tank before each mow.  I don't, and inevitably the thing dies way in the back yard and I have to walk up and get the gas and walk down and fill and walk back and put it away and walk back to finish mowing.  (poor efficiency!)
10)  Seriously, prepare to wave and smile your rough ridin' face off! 
11)  Also, standard dress might be some crocs or tennis shoes (no socks), some cargo shorts, and a crappy t-shirt that preferably you bought on vacation somewhere.  Bonus points if it's Senor Frogs or some other Mexican drinking place.

 :thumbs:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: michigancat on June 12, 2014, 10:51:41 AM
the most important thing is to mow with crocs (no socks)

what?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: mocat on June 12, 2014, 10:55:53 AM
omg mich do you wear socks with your crocs while mowing? OMG  :lol:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 12, 2014, 10:57:37 AM
the most important thing is to mow with crocs (no socks)

what?

It's actually to mow with your shirt off.  You fuckers
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Frankenklein on June 12, 2014, 11:20:16 AM
When you park that Honda for the winter don't forget to put some fuel stabilizer/conditioner in the tank and run it for a minute.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: mocat on June 12, 2014, 11:22:42 AM
when you return that Honda don't forget to get a Toro
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: meow meow on June 12, 2014, 12:00:50 PM
true story, i've had a toro for 4 years.  haven't done anything in the winter to it, and haven't ever changed the oil or sharpened the blades.  Works like a dream, when it craps out, i'll just get a new one, because IDGAF.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on June 12, 2014, 12:11:55 PM
so it sounds like I'm going to need an edger and a weed eater deal. is an weed eater that flips sideways and has a little wheel to edge going to work or is that just wasting my time? also, electric or gas?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on June 12, 2014, 12:14:03 PM
the guy at home depot 15 minutes ago was selling me on this one:

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Ryobi-40-Volt-Lithium-ion-Cordless-String-Trimmer-Edger-RY40210A/203763425?N=5yc1vZbx8iZ1awZ1z0ylm1
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: michigancat on June 12, 2014, 12:14:12 PM
I don't have a lawn
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: wetwillie on June 12, 2014, 12:17:41 PM
I say pay the old guy to mow it until your kid is old enough to do it. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 12, 2014, 12:20:19 PM
You should enlist the services of a neighbor kid. You'll both benefit.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 12, 2014, 12:21:18 PM
but, yea, until then, the shirt needs to come off. otherwise, your lawn will look like dog poo.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Mr Bread on June 12, 2014, 12:43:48 PM
I don't have a lawn

what do you have
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: michigancat on June 12, 2014, 12:45:04 PM
I don't have a lawn

what do you have

A courtyard I guess. I'm like the poorest person in my neighborhood.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on June 12, 2014, 01:30:28 PM
Toro's are awesome.  We had one for 10 years and it started every single damn time like it wasn't completely neglected and hated.  Was pretty amazing.

Also, def get the battery powered trimmer. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: sys on June 12, 2014, 01:58:54 PM
mowing lawns is the worst thing in the world.  someone in the future thread needs to invent a way to mow your lawn with miles.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on June 12, 2014, 01:59:38 PM
I just don't get how Rumba hasn't figured this out yet.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 12, 2014, 02:01:41 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSXrvLgVQBc
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: star seed 7 on June 12, 2014, 02:02:06 PM
mowing lawns is the worst thing in the world.  someone in the future thread needs to invent a way to mow your lawn with miles.

Lawn guy that takes visa?  :dunno:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on June 12, 2014, 02:04:01 PM
Damnit, I meant Roomba, and apparently it exists.

Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 12, 2014, 02:05:11 PM
I don't have a lawn

what do you have

A courtyard I guess. I'm like the poorest person in my neighborhood.

look at you!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: sys on June 12, 2014, 02:06:38 PM
mowing lawns is the worst thing in the world.  someone in the future thread needs to invent a way to mow your lawn with miles.

Lawn guy that takes visa?  :dunno:

lawn guys are too expensive.  cash or miles.  it should be an airline service.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: ChiComCat on June 12, 2014, 02:10:26 PM
Cupholder for mower will make your miller lites convenient.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on June 12, 2014, 02:12:52 PM
idea: get a lawn mower that has 2 settings- super rough ridin' loud and quiet. mow your lawn like a stud/boss when driveway neighbors are out so they get jealous. offer to mow their lawn for them. sunday morning at 5:30 am (youre up that early anyways) you show up and crank that puppy to super rough ridin' loud and wake them and all their kids (EVERYWHERE!) up so they have a miserable sunday.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on June 12, 2014, 02:14:49 PM
Super rough ridin' Loud is a mower's default setting.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 12, 2014, 02:15:21 PM
The only reason sys hates mowing his lawn is because he doesn't want to wave and smile and small talk his neighbors.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on June 12, 2014, 02:16:58 PM
Super rough ridin' Loud is a mower's default setting.

perfect. thatll save some time at 5:30 am.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on June 12, 2014, 02:31:39 PM
the guy at home depot 15 minutes ago was selling me on this one:

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Ryobi-40-Volt-Lithium-ion-Cordless-String-Trimmer-Edger-RY40210A/203763425?N=5yc1vZbx8iZ1awZ1z0ylm1

first mistake was asking someone's opinion at Home Despot.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on June 12, 2014, 02:35:45 PM
the guy at home depot 15 minutes ago was selling me on this one:

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Ryobi-40-Volt-Lithium-ion-Cordless-String-Trimmer-Edger-RY40210A/203763425?N=5yc1vZbx8iZ1awZ1z0ylm1

first mistake was asking someone's opinion at Home Despot.

I didn't ask, he strolled up and gave it. I am very open to better options. POST THEM ITT!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 12, 2014, 02:43:25 PM
I bought a black and decker battery one, Lithium ion.  I think I got 18V and wished I had gotten the next higher voltage one.  Takes a few seconds to spool up.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on June 12, 2014, 02:45:18 PM
I bought a black and decker battery one, Lithium ion.  I think I got 18V and wished I had gotten the next higher voltage one.  Takes a few seconds to spool up.

is it an edger and a trimmer or just a trimmer?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: CNS on June 12, 2014, 02:49:46 PM
I bought this one http://www.homedepot.com/p/BLACK-DECKER-40-Volt-Electric-Cordless-Straight-Shaft-String-Trimmer-LST136/203072998 (http://www.homedepot.com/p/BLACK-DECKER-40-Volt-Electric-Cordless-Straight-Shaft-String-Trimmer-LST136/203072998).  It has worked like new for two years now.  CNSWife does all the trimming.  She loves that stuff and hasn't reported any problems.  The battery give us almost two full trims before needing charging.  We are buying the trimmer for the same battery this summer. 

Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 12, 2014, 02:50:50 PM
I bought a black and decker battery one, Lithium ion.  I think I got 18V and wished I had gotten the next higher voltage one.  Takes a few seconds to spool up.

is it an edger and a trimmer or just a trimmer?

I think it's this one.  It does both edge and trim and rotates and has one of those wheels which is nice.  Just kinda weak motor is all.  Also 1 battery is good for about 0.8 trims.

http://www.blackanddecker.com/outdoor/LST420.aspx
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on June 12, 2014, 02:52:16 PM
thanks guys  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Tobias on June 12, 2014, 02:58:44 PM
i've got some cheapo b&d trimmer that can maybe get through the front yard on one charge
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: _33 on June 12, 2014, 03:02:06 PM
No matter what string trimmer you buy, get this instead of using string:  http://www.lowes.com/pd_72755-65481-49M6313K953_0__?productId=3197551

Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: steve dave on June 12, 2014, 03:05:17 PM
No matter what string trimmer you buy, get this instead of using string:  http://www.lowes.com/pd_72755-65481-49M6313K953_0__?productId=3197551

ok
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: dmartin on June 12, 2014, 03:06:37 PM
the guy at home depot 15 minutes ago was selling me on this one:

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Ryobi-40-Volt-Lithium-ion-Cordless-String-Trimmer-Edger-RY40210A/203763425?N=5yc1vZbx8iZ1awZ1z0ylm1

I've got this one in the 24v. Good trimmer. Can't go wrong with more volts for only 10 bucks.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on June 12, 2014, 03:14:12 PM
the guy at home depot 15 minutes ago was selling me on this one:

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Ryobi-40-Volt-Lithium-ion-Cordless-String-Trimmer-Edger-RY40210A/203763425?N=5yc1vZbx8iZ1awZ1z0ylm1

first mistake was asking someone's opinion at Home Despot.

I didn't ask, he strolled up and gave it. I am very open to better options. POST THEM ITT!


half the weight.   free spare battery.  dual line.

http://slickdeals.net/f/6990566-kobalt-40v-string-trimmer-or-leaf-blower-or-hedge-trimmer-free-2ah-battery-for-149-before-coupons
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on June 12, 2014, 03:19:29 PM
BTW this code may still work for $10 off $50 on Lowes.com
47000RRRRR0660R
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Bloodfart on June 12, 2014, 03:20:26 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.stihlusa.com%2Fgraphics%2Fli-ion-products.jpg&hash=91c71f0b99d9ba8c2723a0b5348318e51f792ec4)
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: ben ji on June 12, 2014, 04:20:38 PM
SD, I had a lawn mowing business in High School so I'm pretty much an expert! I agree with everything EMO and some of this overlaps but

1. Mow your lawn in different directions every week.

2. When you get tired of north/south east/west and are ready for diagonal do this.
          A. Make 2 laps around the outside. Now you have room to turn your mower around.
          B. Start in the middle at a 45 degree angle, finish one half then do the other half.
          C. Your lawn will look "Kaufman Stadium" awesome

3. Definitely mow shirtless, the neighbors wife's will love it (Old ladies used to tip me and I'm sure its because I was shirtless)

4. Splurge on a nice weedeater. You can get one with different attachments that turn it into an edger.

5. Bag your yard in the spring and fall, mulch it during the summer when its hot as balls. The mulch helps to trap the moisture and keep your grass looking studly.

6. Leafblowers are the crap. Unless you are planning on paying the neighborhood kids to rake leaves I would get one.

7. If your green thumb ever comes back think about putting a compost pile in your backyard somewhere. Grass clippings/Leaves can go there and you will have super awesome soil to plant stuff your veggies in.

8. The only winterizing I have ever done for a mower is to make sure it has no gas in it over the winter. You may need to sharpen the blade like once every 3 years but other than that don't worry about it unless you notice the blade is sucking.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Frankenklein on June 12, 2014, 04:21:58 PM
bought one of those 40 volt ryobi things last week,works good
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 12, 2014, 04:22:31 PM
Damnit I knew I needed more volts.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 12, 2014, 04:33:00 PM
pushups/situps before you mow - yes
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: slobber on June 12, 2014, 04:48:11 PM
First mowing each year is the lowest you cut it. Mow at 3". Never cut more than 1/3 rd of the height of the grass.


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: slobber on June 12, 2014, 04:49:26 PM
Sharpen your blade a couple of times each year.


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: slobber on June 12, 2014, 04:50:02 PM
Mulch. Better for the yard.


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: sys on June 12, 2014, 05:05:26 PM
Never cut more than 1/3 rd of the height of the grass.

because i hate mowing, i cut more like 1/2 to 2/3 at a time.  is this going to kill my fescue?  i figured it might help the clover win, or hurt the bermuda more than the fescue.  but both are just rationalizations for not mowing so much.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: GoodForAnother on June 12, 2014, 05:54:40 PM
I'm prob going to buy a house soon which brings to mind -- electric mowers?  What's up with that?  Do they suck?  My future father in law has one but he's v weird.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: star seed 7 on June 12, 2014, 05:57:35 PM
I'm prob going to buy a house soon which brings to mind -- electric mowers?  What's up with that?  Do they suck?  My future father in law has one but he's v weird.

good for small yards
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: slobber on June 13, 2014, 06:03:19 AM

Never cut more than 1/3 rd of the height of the grass.

because i hate mowing, i cut more like 1/2 to 2/3 at a time.  is this going to kill my fescue?  i figured it might help the clover win, or hurt the bermuda more than the fescue.  but both are just rationalizations for not mowing so much.
stresses the turf more. Also allows for more weeds to grow...ESPECIALLY YOUR PESKY BERMUDA!


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: KCFDcat on June 13, 2014, 08:23:25 AM
I'm prob going to buy a house soon which brings to mind -- electric mowers?  What's up with that?  Do they suck?  My future father in law has one but he's v weird.

my neighbor has one, but she's also v weird. plus, v small yards here in brookside. seems to work ok though  :th_twocents:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: wetwillie on June 13, 2014, 08:26:08 AM
An electric mower seems like a huge PITA. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Gooch on June 13, 2014, 08:39:49 AM
mowing lawns is the worst thing in the world.  someone in the future thread needs to invent a way to mow your lawn with miles.

Lawn guy that takes visa?  :dunno:

This is what I do :gocho:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 13, 2014, 09:31:43 AM
I'm prob going to buy a house soon which brings to mind -- electric mowers?  What's up with that?  Do they suck?  My future father in law has one but he's v weird.

my neighbor has one, but she's also v weird. plus, v small yards here in brookside. seems to work ok though  :th_twocents:

hey, what's up with your brewery?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Institutional Control on June 13, 2014, 09:37:39 AM
Did not read this thread.

Is the house done? Is there a picture of finished house?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on June 13, 2014, 09:42:09 AM
Did not read this thread.

Is the house done? Is there a picture of finished house?

YES! See gun thread.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on June 13, 2014, 10:00:21 AM
guys, when you get new landscaping you have to water it basically every day for the first 2 weeks or something. doesn't sound like something steve dave would do, right? 3 DAYS IN A ROW I'VE WATERED ALL OF THE PLANTS IN THE BLAZING 75 DEGREE HEAT! hands in the dirt like a noble farmer (I do not touch the dirt, I blast the plants from the front step with my hose gun thing).
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on June 13, 2014, 10:02:06 AM
steve dave protip: when you have to water your plants don't unscrew your hose and move it to the next hose outlet deal, just buy a new hose for every outlet thing and keep them plugged in.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Institutional Control on June 13, 2014, 10:02:24 AM
Can't you just set the sprinklers to go on automatically?
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Post by: steve dave on June 13, 2014, 10:03:29 AM
Can't you just set the sprinklers to go on automatically?

they do but they don't hit some of my stuff with enough water according to the landscape guy. poor planning/design.
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Post by: wetwillie on June 13, 2014, 10:04:56 AM
This new found manual labor side of you is really throwing me for a loop.
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Post by: Tobias on June 13, 2014, 10:06:07 AM
This new found manual labor side of you is really throwing me for a loop.

what was found can be lost again, have no fear
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Post by: steve dave on June 13, 2014, 10:06:40 AM
This new found manual labor side of you is really throwing me for a loop.

it takes me two miller lite 16oz resealable aluminum bottles to spray all the plants. 30 seconds each for the little pud ones, 1 minute for the medium sized bush ones, 2 minutes for each of the trees.
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Post by: Emo EMAW on June 13, 2014, 10:19:58 AM
sd comes from salt of the earth stock no doubt
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Post by: Tobias on June 13, 2014, 10:22:35 AM
This new found manual labor side of you is really throwing me for a loop.

it takes me two miller lite 16oz resealable aluminum bottles to spray all the plants. 30 seconds each for the little pud ones, 1 minute for the medium sized bush ones, 2 minutes for each of the trees.

do you emphatically chuck the resealable lids out toward the street to let those plants you mean business?
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Post by: steve dave on June 13, 2014, 10:23:44 AM
This new found manual labor side of you is really throwing me for a loop.

it takes me two miller lite 16oz resealable aluminum bottles to spray all the plants. 30 seconds each for the little pud ones, 1 minute for the medium sized bush ones, 2 minutes for each of the trees.

do you emphatically chuck the resealable lids out toward the street to let those plants you mean business?

I usually just screw them back on before putting the bottles in the recycling bin
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: OK_Cat on June 13, 2014, 10:34:55 AM
Stopped paying a Mexican guy and started mowing myself last week, terrible idea. T&P's, stevedave.
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Post by: sys on June 13, 2014, 10:41:53 AM
THE BLAZING 75 DEGREE HEAT!

 :angry:
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Post by: CNS on June 13, 2014, 10:44:21 AM
What is the ratio of Temp to Miller Lights?  I mean, is thread going to be legible in August?
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Post by: steve dave on June 13, 2014, 10:52:23 AM
What is the ratio of Temp to Miller Lights?  I mean, is thread going to be legible in August?

I have no idea, this is a first for everyone
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Post by: CNS on June 13, 2014, 11:04:56 AM
Your liver may appreciate it if you just treat all your landscaping as if they are annuals that just get planted every spring and die every winterAugust.  :dunno:
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Post by: Cire on June 13, 2014, 11:10:04 AM
Can't you just set the sprinklers to go on automatically?

they do but they don't hit some of my stuff with enough water according to the landscape guy. poor planning/design.

sounds like you need a new house.
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Post by: wetwillie on June 13, 2014, 11:11:50 AM
Landscaping is gateway labor, next thing you know he is going to be changing his own oil and fixing major appliances :frown:
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Post by: slobber on June 13, 2014, 11:52:42 AM
He already purchased extra oil for the law mower. (How long before unopened oil goes bad? You know sd is never going to change that oil. )


Gonna win 'em all!
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Post by: CNS on June 13, 2014, 11:53:23 AM
Lawnmowers are meant to be quasi disposable, imo. 
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Post by: CNS on June 13, 2014, 11:54:10 AM
I mean, use in until you absolutely have to change the oil, then sell it to Wintz' hometown lawnmowbro for an unfair price then start over.  :dunno:
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Post by: Tobias on June 13, 2014, 11:54:13 AM
Lawnmowers are meant to be quasi disposable, imo. 

yeah.  there's no way in hell i'm sharpening a blade, gmafb
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Post by: CNS on June 13, 2014, 11:55:38 AM
Lawnmowers are meant to be quasi disposable, imo. 

yeah.  there's no way in hell i'm sharpening a blade, gmafb

Agreed.  Ever.  This is just BigBlade trying to Hallmark us all into supporting their biz.  I mean, you can swing just about anything hard and cut grass.  You can't convince me that spinning metal has to be sharp to do this.
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Post by: steve dave on June 13, 2014, 12:35:19 PM
thoughts on this? you guys seem to like your B&D ones. this one is 40v and comes with a blower deal that I'll prolly never use.

http://www.amazon.com/Black-Decker-LCC140-40-volt-Trimmer/dp/B00JGUAP8W/ref=zg_bsnr_553954_1
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Post by: CNS on June 13, 2014, 12:35:51 PM
Sure.
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Post by: star seed 7 on June 13, 2014, 12:52:29 PM
Last lawnmower I had, I got for free from Craigslist and he sharpened the blade for me before I came to pick it up. Maybe try that sd?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: raquetcat on June 13, 2014, 01:40:41 PM
What's wrong with gas trimmers? I've had mine for 4 years and had 0 problems.
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Post by: hatingfrancisco on June 13, 2014, 01:42:17 PM
I have a gas powered Stihl trimmer I bought in 2000 and it starts up every year. 
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Post by: raquetcat on June 13, 2014, 01:43:16 PM
What's wrong with gas trimmers? I've had mine for 4 years and had 0 problems.
Plus I used mine in the greater Omaha metropolitan area, so you know it works, who even knows if battery trimmers work in Nebraska?
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Post by: Dr Rick Daris on June 13, 2014, 01:45:00 PM
thoughts on this? you guys seem to like your B&D ones. this one is 40v and comes with a blower deal that I'll prolly never use.

http://www.amazon.com/Black-Decker-LCC140-40-volt-Trimmer/dp/B00JGUAP8W/ref=zg_bsnr_553954_1

once you get a kid that goes out and plays, you're probably going to find that you garage door gets left open quite and bit. that means leaves, etc all over. that blower will end up getting used some i bet.
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Post by: raquetcat on June 13, 2014, 01:46:47 PM
What's wrong with gas trimmers? I've had mine for 4 years and had 0 problems.
Plus I used mine in the greater Omaha metropolitan area, so you know it works, who even knows if battery trimmers work in Nebraska?
Also works in greater Topeka metropolitan area, for those of you wanting to know.

Does it work in KC?
DON'T KNOW! BUT PROBABLY!
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Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on June 13, 2014, 01:50:21 PM
What's wrong with gas trimmers? I've had mine for 4 years and had 0 problems.
Plus I used mine in the greater Omaha metropolitan area, so you know it works, who even knows if battery trimmers work in Nebraska?
Also works in greater Topeka metropolitan area, for those of you wanting to know.

Does it work in KC?
DON'T KNOW! BUT PROBABLY!

may not work on some parts of Colorado.    You may need to road-trip to complete this story.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 13, 2014, 01:59:37 PM
Gas:  is it 2 or 4 stroke?  The one I have never rough ridin' starts and I hate it. 
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Post by: Skipper44 on June 13, 2014, 02:07:24 PM
thoughts on this? you guys seem to like your B&D ones. this one is 40v and comes with a blower deal that I'll prolly never use.

http://www.amazon.com/Black-Decker-LCC140-40-volt-Trimmer/dp/B00JGUAP8W/ref=zg_bsnr_553954_1

once you get a kid that goes out and plays, you're probably going to find that you garage door gets left open quite and bit. that means leaves, etc all over. that blower will end up getting used some i bet.
Also, blowing off the driveway/sidewalk/patio is perfect way to enjoy your post-mowing cool down Miller Lite.
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Post by: CNS on June 13, 2014, 02:08:48 PM
All the gas trimmers I have used vibrate like crazy to the point that after using them for an extended period, my hands feel numb'ish.

Also super loud.  Like, loud as balls and stuff.


Also, CNSWife saw some d00d in our town using his leaf blower to dry off the dog after a bath.  Said the dog was loving it.  You should get a dog and a leaf blower.
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Post by: raquetcat on June 13, 2014, 02:13:32 PM
Gas:  is it 2 or 4 stroke?  The one I have never rough ridin' starts and I hate it.
This is the one I have, it's 2 stroke and I've always been able to get it to start with 3-4 pulls, also it's super light and doesn't vibrate. Only potential complication is that it runs on a gas/oil mix so you would have to buy another gas can. I also used it for my high school lawn mowing business and it worked great for that too.
 http://www.weedeater.com/us/products/trimmers/fl25c/
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Post by: raquetcat on June 13, 2014, 02:19:19 PM
Gas:  is it 2 or 4 stroke?  The one I have never rough ridin' starts and I hate it.
This is the one I have, it's 2 stroke and I've always been able to get it to start with 3-4 pulls, also it's super light and doesn't vibrate. Only potential complication is that it runs on a gas/oil mix so you would have to buy another gas can. I also used it for my high school lawn mowing business and it worked great for that too.
 http://www.weedeater.com/us/products/trimmers/fl25c/
I also own this bad boy (father's day present):
 http://m.weedeater.com/us/products/blowers/gas/fb25/

It's super loud, but I've never had issues with it, and it's good for blowing off all the little grass particles you get on you after you mow and trim. Or if you have a long flowing mane, blow your hair a lil bit and let the neighbor ladies drool :gocho:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on June 14, 2014, 12:16:17 PM
No way am I getting a gas one.
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 14, 2014, 12:34:29 PM
No way am I getting a gas one.

I got a Toro blower that also vacuums into a bag, it's elec
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Post by: slobber on June 14, 2014, 01:00:05 PM

No way am I getting a gas one.
why?


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: nicname on June 14, 2014, 01:01:47 PM
pushups/situps before you mow - yes

Definite key here. The pre-mow pump workout is very important, especially if you're going to be shirtless, which I know you will be.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: star seed 7 on June 14, 2014, 01:02:36 PM
Gas is a total pain in the ass and also a total pain in the ass
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Post by: steve dave on June 14, 2014, 01:41:33 PM


No way am I getting a gas one.
why?


Gonna win 'em all!

Loud, smelly, vibration, possibility of having to mix oil and gas, hands smell like gas, etc. I'm actually surprised I bought a gas mower.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Cire on June 14, 2014, 01:43:28 PM
electric yard tools aren't efficient SD
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 14, 2014, 01:46:46 PM
electric yard tools aren't efficient SD

I got a uber long ext cord
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on June 14, 2014, 01:47:52 PM

electric yard tools aren't efficient SD

In what way?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Cire on June 14, 2014, 01:53:53 PM
not as much power, takes longer to whack weeds, blower not as powerful, takes longer to blow stuff around.
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Post by: WonderMeal on June 14, 2014, 02:04:51 PM
I am shocked (shocked) that Steve Dave hasn't specifically asked for @KSUBrian to come in here an offer some real advice. Really clear things up, you know?

Also, SD, for your landscaping that can't be reached by the sprinklers (assuming it's shrubs and flowers and stuff), you should def get some soaker hoses that attach to your regular hose. Turn on the hose, go inside, come back out 45 minutes later and turn 'em off.  That seems like the right level of "work" for our old pal SD, though it might affect the neighborlady/Miller Lite aluminums a little bit.

If turning the hose on and off is too hard, you could even get an automatic timer.

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRb4EOzNZxryZYRTv372XM347h5CDxUCtXYkE9XCq_O2rZ6j-IS4A)
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Post by: steve dave on June 14, 2014, 02:12:55 PM
Good tips here
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Post by: Frankenklein on June 14, 2014, 06:18:56 PM
Always water deep when needed,drown them things.Nothing is worse for plants than giving them a light sprinkle everyday. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on June 14, 2014, 07:17:14 PM

Always water deep when needed,drown them things.Nothing is worse for plants than giving them a light sprinkle everyday.

Serious? Thanks, didn't know this
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Post by: kim carnes on June 14, 2014, 07:26:16 PM

Always water deep when needed,drown them things.Nothing is worse for plants than giving them a light sprinkle everyday.

Serious? Thanks, didn't know this

That doesn't apply to your sod though, if it gets dry that crap will die.
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Post by: slobber on June 14, 2014, 09:48:08 PM


Always water deep when needed,drown them things.Nothing is worse for plants than giving them a light sprinkle everyday.

Serious? Thanks, didn't know this

That doesn't apply to your sod though, if it gets dry that crap will die.
doesnt apply to new plantings.


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: ednksu on June 15, 2014, 12:52:14 AM
SD rethink your position on buying shitty lawn equipment (mower is a good choice).  If you get a good trimmer like a Stihl, Echo, or Husc your yard work wont be as much of a burden.  If you are the type which will always see it as a burden, just get a service now.  If you might grow into it, buy decent equipment now.  No one says oh I wish I didn't buy my Stihl Chainsaw or Echo trimmer even though they cost a crap load.  They cost that much because they work so much better and make your life easier. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on June 15, 2014, 07:55:29 AM
thanks for the tip
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Post by: steve dave on June 15, 2014, 08:33:12 AM
Cedar deck, metal spindles, pressure treated frame. What do I need to do with this thing? Stain it this year? Next?
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Post by: steve dave on June 15, 2014, 08:33:50 AM
Just "seal" it?
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Post by: SkinnyBenny on June 15, 2014, 10:13:52 AM
drywall today  :Woot:

went with chamfered corners

OOD (octagon of dave)
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Post by: tdaver on June 15, 2014, 10:31:30 AM
No need to wait.  I like this stuff.  Wipe it on, let it sit a couple minutes, wipe it off.  Looks good and water/rain just beads up on it.  Also no need to strip or chemically clean prior to reapplication, just sweep and hose the dirt off.  Put 2 or 3 coats on and you shouldn't have to again for a couple years.

http://www.twpstain.com

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Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 15, 2014, 10:52:23 AM
Trex
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Post by: SkinnyBenny on June 15, 2014, 10:23:45 PM
Hey, homebuildercats. Is it hard to install a fan in a bathroom? Do you have to, like, hire a guy? Do you have to know stuff about electricity and whatnot? I feel like I want to learn this kind of stuff but sometimes I feel like this guy instead.

(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSp7TOb7mQWH-z8kyEd9n0sLsCJgc05I6u7ogGwdHMrO0hwMWNvFw)
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Post by: CNS on June 15, 2014, 11:03:28 PM
SB, is there already one there and you are just replacing it?  If so, pud.

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Post by: star seed 7 on June 15, 2014, 11:06:04 PM
If you have access to the attic above the bathroom it's pretty pud too. If it's got living space above it then you're kinda mumped
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Post by: SkinnyBenny on June 15, 2014, 11:15:36 PM
SB, is there already one there and you are just replacing it?  If so, pud.

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Don't know. Just thinking hypothetically. I watched a video on The Info Superhighway that made replacing one indeed look pud. But I still have a couple questions about putting one in, just because there are a bunch of old-ass homes and I'm in the house market right now so who knows if I'll have to do it.

1. Putting one in looks easy if it's on an upstairs floor and goes through an exhaust duct in the attic. But what it it's on the first floor? Where does it all go? Shoot it into the ground underneath your house? :confused:

2. Will I have to hire an electrician to put a new switch or wires or whatever in the wall? Or is that stuff already in there and I just have to twist some stuff together?
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Post by: SkinnyBenny on June 15, 2014, 11:17:20 PM
If you have access to the attic above the bathroom it's pretty pud too. If it's got living space above it then you're kinda mumped

That's what I feared. But my parents' house has one in their downstairs bathroom and there's definitely a living space right above that so wtf :don'tcare:
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Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on June 15, 2014, 11:52:32 PM
No need to wait.  I like this stuff.  Wipe it on, let it sit a couple minutes, wipe it off.  Looks good and water/rain just beads up on it.  Also no need to strip or chemically clean prior to reapplication, just sweep and hose the dirt off.  Put 2 or 3 coats on and you shouldn't have to again for a couple years.

http://www.twpstain.com

Yes, this stuff is great. Two years ago I sanded all of the crappy contractor finishes (polyurethane with stain in it) off my wood garage and entry doors and used the redwood TWP. Looks great. Super low maintenance.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: star seed 7 on June 15, 2014, 11:56:13 PM
If you have access to the attic above the bathroom it's pretty pud too. If it's got living space above it then you're kinda mumped

That's what I feared. But my parents' house has one in their downstairs bathroom and there's definitely a living space right above that so wtf :don'tcare:

Remodeling is very different from installing before the ceiling is up.
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Post by: puniraptor on June 16, 2014, 12:47:12 AM
As long as the circuit has capacity, you should be able to wire it right off the light. Whether that is pud or not is dependent on your home's configuration.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: star seed 7 on June 16, 2014, 12:50:38 AM
Venting the fan would be the major issue
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Post by: SkinnyBenny on June 16, 2014, 12:53:21 AM
Man. I was sure earlier today that I could be one of those house flipper guys. Now? dunno. :sadpeek:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: HerrSonntag on June 16, 2014, 01:12:50 AM
Are we talking about
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fa%2Fa3%2FThe_Black_Beauty.jpg&hash=e190e0caaa2fbde45e8dc17c5187422e673d0146)

Or a recessed exhaust fan?
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.edwardsenterprisescc.com%2Fimages%2FCeiling-Repair-Exhaust-Fan-Bathroom-Recessed-Lights-Texture-Paint.JPG&hash=a716a39b904be076a9bf4e6f00dc60f428cf2998)

If its the former, its pretty pud.  But since that doesn't make much since to install in a bathroom i imagine you mean the latter.

Most of the headache for that kind of operation is just the design.  So you want to pull out air from the bathroom?  Where do you want to put it?  You need to figure out how to get air from your power source (where you'll install the unit) to where it needs to go (rafters? exterior?)   As seven said, if you just have adduct above, then its just installing and a 1 foot vent to the adduct... otherwise, you need to snake some ducting to where you need to go, which can be a pain.  If you have sheet-rock, you can count on being able to run from the rafter between your bathroom and the upstairs to the side of the house and there should some room to run the duct up to the adduct or even out of the house
(https://basc.pnnl.gov/sites/default/files/images/TE514_Bathkitfanairseal2_PNNL_06-15-12.jpg)

The bad news is to run anything like that you'll need to rip out anything in the way...
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on June 16, 2014, 07:46:40 AM


No way am I getting a gas one.
why?


Gonna win 'em all!

Loud, smelly, vibration, possibility of having to mix oil and gas, hands smell like gas, etc. I'm actually surprised I bought a gas mower.

i think you are severely overestimating the amount of day to day gasoline maintenence involved in the upkeep of a gasoline powered weedeater.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on June 16, 2014, 07:49:58 AM
yeah, maybe. however, it is too late and I already bought that electric one. it was cheap though so if I hate it I can just throw it in the street next year and get a gas one. you gas'ers really came into this thing late. where were you when I initially asked?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on June 16, 2014, 07:51:38 AM
I HAVEN'T OPENED THE BOX YET SO MAYBE JUST TAKE IT BACK?
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 16, 2014, 07:58:18 AM
I have had a coal fired weedeater for several years.  Talk about power.

Electric?  whats next, solar?  LOL, hippies
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Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on June 16, 2014, 09:00:37 AM


No way am I getting a gas one.
why?


Gonna win 'em all!

Loud, smelly, vibration, possibility of having to mix oil and gas, hands smell like gas, etc. I'm actually surprised I bought a gas mower.

i think you are severely overestimating the amount of day to day gasoline maintenence involved in the upkeep of a gasoline powered weedeater.

I've got a gas weedeater.  I fill it with the same gas mix I used for my blower and snowblower, and do nothing else.   Has run fine for 6 years now.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Panjandrum on June 16, 2014, 09:30:49 AM
thoughts on this? you guys seem to like your B&D ones. this one is 40v and comes with a blower deal that I'll prolly never use.

http://www.amazon.com/Black-Decker-LCC140-40-volt-Trimmer/dp/B00JGUAP8W/ref=zg_bsnr_553954_1

Sorry for not seeing this earlier, sd.

I have a B&D Grasshog trimmer, but not quite as expensive as that model.  My yard really isn't big enough to necessitate it (~9k sq. feet), and even the cheap B&D electric trimmers are amazing.  If you buy the $90 models, they usually last about five years or so, and then you just buy the same model all over again.  I had one that I used an extension cord with, and then about a year ago, I replaced it with one that has a battery on the back.

You need to usually keep two batteries charged up before you trim because, at least with my yard, you need about 1.5 charges to get the job done.  I trim all around my house, trees, flower beds, and fence, so I probably trim a lot, but it does the job.

I'd recommend any B&D electric trimmer.  They're awesome.  I had a Stihl gas trimmer for a summer and ended up giving it to my dad because the cheap B&D one actually did a way better job.
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Post by: steve dave on June 16, 2014, 09:48:26 AM
thoughts on this? you guys seem to like your B&D ones. this one is 40v and comes with a blower deal that I'll prolly never use.

http://www.amazon.com/Black-Decker-LCC140-40-volt-Trimmer/dp/B00JGUAP8W/ref=zg_bsnr_553954_1

Sorry for not seeing this earlier, sd.

I have a B&D Grasshog trimmer, but not quite as expensive as that model.  My yard really isn't big enough to necessitate it (~9k sq. feet), and even the cheap B&D electric trimmers are amazing.  If you buy the $90 models, they usually last about five years or so, and then you just buy the same model all over again.  I had one that I used an extension cord with, and then about a year ago, I replaced it with one that has a battery on the back.

You need to usually keep two batteries charged up before you trim because, at least with my yard, you need about 1.5 charges to get the job done.  I trim all around my house, trees, flower beds, and fence, so I probably trim a lot, but it does the job.

I'd recommend any B&D electric trimmer.  They're awesome.  I had a Stihl gas trimmer for a summer and ended up giving it to my dad because the cheap B&D one actually did a way better job.

yeah, we don't even have a fence yet so hopefully this thing will be enough to tackle it on one charge.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Panjandrum on June 16, 2014, 09:50:47 AM
thoughts on this? you guys seem to like your B&D ones. this one is 40v and comes with a blower deal that I'll prolly never use.

http://www.amazon.com/Black-Decker-LCC140-40-volt-Trimmer/dp/B00JGUAP8W/ref=zg_bsnr_553954_1

Sorry for not seeing this earlier, sd.

I have a B&D Grasshog trimmer, but not quite as expensive as that model.  My yard really isn't big enough to necessitate it (~9k sq. feet), and even the cheap B&D electric trimmers are amazing.  If you buy the $90 models, they usually last about five years or so, and then you just buy the same model all over again.  I had one that I used an extension cord with, and then about a year ago, I replaced it with one that has a battery on the back.

You need to usually keep two batteries charged up before you trim because, at least with my yard, you need about 1.5 charges to get the job done.  I trim all around my house, trees, flower beds, and fence, so I probably trim a lot, but it does the job.

I'd recommend any B&D electric trimmer.  They're awesome.  I had a Stihl gas trimmer for a summer and ended up giving it to my dad because the cheap B&D one actually did a way better job.

yeah, we don't even have a fence yet so hopefully this thing will be enough to tackle it on one charge.

Probably will.  My last house didn't have one, and it did it in one charge.
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Post by: Emo EMAW on June 16, 2014, 09:59:55 AM
sd there are probably two batteries in there.  At least my crappier version had two batteries.
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Post by: Frankenklein on June 16, 2014, 10:06:29 AM
yeah, maybe. however, it is too late and I already bought that electric one. it was cheap though so if I hate it I can just throw it in the street next year and get a gas one. you gas'ers really came into this thing late. where were you when I initially asked?
They were out in the yard trying to get their gas trimmers started
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Panjandrum on June 16, 2014, 10:21:11 AM
yeah, maybe. however, it is too late and I already bought that electric one. it was cheap though so if I hate it I can just throw it in the street next year and get a gas one. you gas'ers really came into this thing late. where were you when I initially asked?
They were out in the yard trying to get their gas trimmers started

This made me chuckle.
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Post by: steve dave on June 16, 2014, 11:27:00 AM
yeah, maybe. however, it is too late and I already bought that electric one. it was cheap though so if I hate it I can just throw it in the street next year and get a gas one. you gas'ers really came into this thing late. where were you when I initially asked?
They were out in the yard trying to get their gas trimmers started

This made me chuckle.

yeah
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Post by: steve dave on June 18, 2014, 12:40:33 PM
my sod is getting really long and the ground is mushy because I'm watering it 4 times a day. how long do I let it go before cutting it? it's been a week now. do I let it go two weeks or should I go ahead and shut off the water and let it dry a couple days and cut it friday or something?
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Post by: CNS on June 18, 2014, 12:48:37 PM
I don't think if you are supposed to let it get mushy.
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Post by: steve dave on June 18, 2014, 12:52:22 PM
I don't think if you are supposed to let it get mushy.

how wet then? it's mushy in parts. the sod guy set the sprinklers how he wanted them going so I just didn't touch them.
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Post by: CNS on June 18, 2014, 01:30:02 PM
I don't think if you are supposed to let it get mushy.

the sod guy set the sprinklers how he wanted them going so I just didn't touch them.

I am sure you are fine, then.  I had just always heard that you don't want sod mushy but to deep water every few days so that the sod isn't mushy but the ground beneath the sod is moist.  Supposedly that makes the roots bridge the gap from the sod to the ground below.

Dobbs is probably the right guy for this question, though.
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Post by: Spracne on June 18, 2014, 01:36:50 PM
I don't think if you are supposed to let it get mushy.

how wet then? it's mushy in parts. the sod guy set the sprinklers how he wanted them going so I just didn't touch them.

Maybe your sod guy is a sot.
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Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on June 18, 2014, 04:54:53 PM
Quote
Early Sod Care
1. First day watering - Check your new sod a few hours after it has been laid by walking on it. If you make deep footprints, it has enough water. If the soil is firm, lift a corner of the sod to inspect. The soil on the back of the sod should be damp to wet. If it is not damp, water at least 30 minutes.

2. Second through fifth day watering - Check your lawn at least one time per day or more than once if it is hot or windy. Walk on the new lawn and inspect it. If the soil is soft and you make deep footprints, or water has puddled in areas, it is too wet and you should stop watering for awhile and reduce the amount of future watering. If the soil is firm, lift a corner of several pieces of sod. The soil should be damp, not dripping wet or dusty dry. Areas where the grass has wilted or turned straw color have not received enough water. If cracks appear between the rolls, this indicates not enough water has been applied. Water more often to correct this. Under watered sod usually will turn green again in seven days or so if corrective measures were taken soon enough. Temperatures above 80 generally mean more water is needed, and below 60 mean less water is needed. In the cooler months of March, April, October and November, sod needs much less water.

3. Further watering - After five days or so, the soil has soaked up water like a sponge and you must reduce your watering habits. Grass plant roots will not grow into waterlogged soils! Begin stretching out the time between watering. When fully rooted, most lawns need to be watered only one time per week.

4. Mowing - Mow your new grass when it needs it. Follow Long Term recommendations for the month you are in. Arrange it so you do not water just before mowing to prevent the making of footprints.

5. Fertilization - Do not apply any fertilizer for at least three weeks after installation. Then, fertilize by the program you have selected.

6. Herbicides - Do not apply any crabgrass herbicides for at least one year after installation.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Tobias on June 18, 2014, 04:58:44 PM
you really mumped this up, steve dave.  applecare for lawns?
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Post by: Frankenklein on June 18, 2014, 05:00:48 PM
If you think it's ready to mow let it dry up enough so you don't get it all rutty and footprinted up then mow it late in the day and water it good the next morning  :dunno: but pretty sure it's a good approach
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Post by: slobber on June 18, 2014, 05:00:59 PM
TLDNR? You are watering it too much. Turn down the zones that are too wet. Back them off a couple of minutes and then check again.
Also, within a week, you should have some fine root hairs growing into the soil. Pull back a corner and notice this whole sipping a miller lite.


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: slobber on June 18, 2014, 05:02:21 PM
Also, it's hot, keep if wet and pray for a cool week where you can water less to promote some deeper root growth.


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Frankenklein on June 18, 2014, 05:14:13 PM
I bet Dobbers yard is glorious 
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Post by: CNS on June 18, 2014, 05:16:33 PM
Builder's house, mechanic's car, etc.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on June 18, 2014, 07:24:31 PM
Can I mow this thing yet tho?
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Post by: Frankenklein on June 18, 2014, 07:27:43 PM
Can I mow this thing yet tho?
If you can get your mower started.
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Post by: slobber on June 18, 2014, 07:42:10 PM

Builder's house, mechanic's car, etc.
not that bad!


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: slobber on June 18, 2014, 07:45:28 PM

Can I mow this thing yet tho?
Don't water it for at least 24 hours, you don't want to get wheel ruts and leave footprints. MOW IT HIGH! (The deck, not you!). If it clumps, bag it. Post a pick with miller lite tall boy setting in the grass and I'll tell you if you should wait a few more days.


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: slobber on June 18, 2014, 07:46:51 PM

Can I mow this thing yet tho?
If you can get your mower started.
thats the edger/weed eater that won't start. That Honda will start every time. (Not big Honda mowers, don't own a honda mower)


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Pete on June 22, 2014, 12:59:54 PM
my sod is getting really long and the ground is mushy because I'm watering it 4 times a day. how long do I let it go before cutting it? it's been a week now. do I let it go two weeks or should I go ahead and shut off the water and let it dry a couple days and cut it friday or something?

This stumped a lot of people at trivia.
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Post by: Tobias on June 22, 2014, 01:01:53 PM
:gocho:
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Post by: TownieCat on June 22, 2014, 01:19:14 PM
:gocho:

'bias absolutely owned this category.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Pete on June 22, 2014, 01:24:47 PM
I still can't believe that the Gooches thought Steve Dave's thermostat was a Honeywell.   :sdeek:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 22, 2014, 01:52:09 PM
I still can't believe that the Gooches thought Steve Dave's thermostat was a Honeywell.   :sdeek:

What idiots
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Post by: Asteriskhead on June 22, 2014, 01:53:52 PM
I still can't believe that the Gooches thought Steve Dave's thermostat was a Honeywell.   :sdeek:

What idiots

I was hoping for a Sonos question.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on June 22, 2014, 01:56:43 PM
This should be a lesson to everyone that you should read all the posts in all the threads where I talk about my stuff/self.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 23, 2014, 08:35:04 AM
I still can't believe that the Gooches thought Steve Dave's thermostat was a Honeywell.   :sdeek:

What idiots

I knew that wasn't it but I couldn't think of Nest.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: puniraptor on June 23, 2014, 08:37:32 AM
I still can't believe that the Gooches thought Steve Dave's thermostat was a Honeywell.   :sdeek:

What idiots

I knew that wasn't it but I couldn't think of Nest.

i thought of nest but thought that big hvac opened up their pocket for him.

i blame me  :embarrassed:
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Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 23, 2014, 09:30:17 AM
I'm a very casual reader/browser of this thread. I've missed a lot of it. But I knew the thermostat brand. The scary thing was if my life depended on me knowing the thermostat in my own house I'd be dead.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on June 25, 2014, 12:02:53 PM
mowing this afternoon  :sdeek:
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Post by: Panjandrum on June 25, 2014, 12:07:01 PM
mowing this afternoon  :sdeek:

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Post by: nicname on June 25, 2014, 12:11:12 PM
mowing this afternoon  :sdeek:

Hide your wives.

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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: wetwillie on June 25, 2014, 12:13:20 PM
how have we got to almost 50 pages without renderings?  maybe i missed them.  what a big tease.
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Post by: Dr Rick Daris on June 25, 2014, 12:19:36 PM
renderings? lets see some god damned photos of this micky ficky.
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Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on June 25, 2014, 12:47:14 PM
how have we got to almost 50 pages without renderings?  maybe i missed them.  what a big tease.

its called imagination!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Benja on June 25, 2014, 01:32:20 PM
mowing this afternoon  :sdeek:

holy cow. for goodness sake, be careful.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on June 25, 2014, 03:28:30 PM
mowing this afternoon  :sdeek:

holy cow. for goodness sake, be careful.

I have literally not touched a lawnmower since high school before I bought this one. it's gonna be pretty hilarious to watch.
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Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 25, 2014, 03:30:09 PM
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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Panjandrum on June 25, 2014, 07:35:40 PM
mowing this afternoon  :sdeek:

holy cow. for goodness sake, be careful.

I have literally not touched a lawnmower since high school before I bought this one. it's gonna be pretty hilarious to watch.

It's just like riding a bike (that can cut your feet off).
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on June 25, 2014, 07:37:31 PM
1 hour and 45 minutes! In 81 degree heat! I'm dead. I died.
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Post by: wetwillie on June 25, 2014, 07:55:23 PM
1 hour and 45 minutes! In 81 degree heat! I'm dead. I died.

great job bud, grab a couple of miller lites and look out on the perfectly manicured lawn you just created.
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Post by: The Big Train on June 25, 2014, 07:57:43 PM
did you have to sharpen the blade like halfway through that jungle or did you dr mower the crap out of that thing?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Panjandrum on June 25, 2014, 10:47:28 PM
did you have to sharpen the blade like halfway through that jungle or did you dr mower the crap out of that thing?

I actually think this is a pretty good advertisement for that brand of mower, to be honest.
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Post by: Cire on June 25, 2014, 10:50:20 PM
Jfc get a rider
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 25, 2014, 11:17:02 PM
Mowed tonight also.  Nothing beats a good shirtless mowing sesh
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: slobber on June 26, 2014, 05:22:31 AM
sd, when you come back to life, please tell us if you think it looks awesome or not. Also, how big is your lot that it took 1 hr and 45 minutes? I am guessing that is becasue you were bagging it per my recommendation since the grass was so long. Once you get on a regular schedule, you'll probably  be able to mow in 30-40 minutes and then edge a few times a year at most.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Tobias on June 26, 2014, 06:51:10 AM
pic of miller lite in grass
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on June 26, 2014, 08:09:31 AM
sd, when you come back to life, please tell us if you think it looks awesome or not. Also, how big is your lot that it took 1 hr and 45 minutes? I am guessing that is becasue you were bagging it per my recommendation since the grass was so long. Once you get on a regular schedule, you'll probably  be able to mow in 30-40 minutes and then edge a few times a year at most.

yes, bagged except for about half of the back because I filled my entire yard waste bin up  :sdeek:

I don't know how big it is. the entire lot is less than 1/2 an acre and some of that is covered with a three car driveway and sidewalks and junk. also a house is on some of it. looks ok but still has the lines in it from laying the sod and some parts weren't rooted completely down and pulled a bit. overall it's pretty solid. also edged it and blew off the sidewalk and junk. trimmer battery lasted for the entire trim/edge/blower session on one charge which was nice. got grass all over my legs, very gross. don't empty your bag into your container over your driveway. do it in the grass. good pro-tip here. had to read the manual to figure out how to start my mower. it mows good I think. going to mulch it this weekend. going to watering once a day this week and then a normal every other day schedule.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on June 26, 2014, 08:17:49 AM
they grow up so fast, ya know? proud of you, steve.
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Post by: Dr Rick Daris on June 26, 2014, 08:36:48 AM
man. i read 1 hour and 45 minutes and freaked out for you for a little bit before finding out that the time also including bagging and trimming.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Panjandrum on June 26, 2014, 09:30:17 AM
sd, when you come back to life, please tell us if you think it looks awesome or not. Also, how big is your lot that it took 1 hr and 45 minutes? I am guessing that is becasue you were bagging it per my recommendation since the grass was so long. Once you get on a regular schedule, you'll probably  be able to mow in 30-40 minutes and then edge a few times a year at most.

yes, bagged except for about half of the back because I filled my entire yard waste bin up  :sdeek:

I don't know how big it is. the entire lot is less than 1/2 an acre and some of that is covered with a three car driveway and sidewalks and junk. also a house is on some of it. looks ok but still has the lines in it from laying the sod and some parts weren't rooted completely down and pulled a bit. overall it's pretty solid. also edged it and blew off the sidewalk and junk. trimmer battery lasted for the entire trim/edge/blower session on one charge which was nice. got grass all over my legs, very gross. don't empty your bag into your container over your driveway. do it in the grass. good pro-tip here. had to read the manual to figure out how to start my mower. it mows good I think. going to mulch it this weekend. going to watering once a day this week and then a normal every other day schedule.

Very cool.  Good purchase on your part.

As far as the grass in driveway, I think you can use the same lithium ion system to get a B&D blower.  I was gifted a gas one in the past, so I use that, but when it dies, I'm getting one of these.

http://www.blackanddecker.com/outdoor/LSWV36.aspx (http://www.blackanddecker.com/outdoor/LSWV36.aspx)
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on June 26, 2014, 09:32:48 AM
yeah, my trimmer came with a blower (not a vacuum one though). I just swapped out the battery and blew the grass off.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Panjandrum on June 26, 2014, 09:49:47 AM
yeah, my trimmer came with a blower (not a vacuum one though). I just swapped out the battery and blew the grass off.

 :thumbsup:

You definitely got a good deal then.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: XocolateThundarr on June 26, 2014, 01:39:40 PM
yeah, my trimmer came with a blower (not a vacuum one though). I just swapped out the battery and blew the grass off.

What did you buy?  I need to swap out my old gas model and a combo with a blower sounds really cool.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on June 26, 2014, 01:49:31 PM
yeah, my trimmer came with a blower (not a vacuum one though). I just swapped out the battery and blew the grass off.

What did you buy?  I need to swap out my old gas model and a combo with a blower sounds really cool.

http://www.amazon.com/Black-Decker-LCC140-40-volt-Trimmer/dp/B00JGUAP8W/ref=zg_bsnr_553954_1
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: XocolateThundarr on June 26, 2014, 01:54:01 PM
yeah, my trimmer came with a blower (not a vacuum one though). I just swapped out the battery and blew the grass off.

What did you buy?  I need to swap out my old gas model and a combo with a blower sounds really cool.

http://www.amazon.com/Black-Decker-LCC140-40-volt-Trimmer/dp/B00JGUAP8W/ref=zg_bsnr_553954_1

Nice.  Does the blower feel like it has quite a bit of power?  No problem getting grass clippings off of the concrete?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on June 26, 2014, 01:54:41 PM
yeah, my trimmer came with a blower (not a vacuum one though). I just swapped out the battery and blew the grass off.

What did you buy?  I need to swap out my old gas model and a combo with a blower sounds really cool.

http://www.amazon.com/Black-Decker-LCC140-40-volt-Trimmer/dp/B00JGUAP8W/ref=zg_bsnr_553954_1

Nice.  Does the blower feel like it has quite a bit of power?  No problem getting grass clippings off of the concrete?

yeah, I've never used a blower before and it's really small but it was quiet and blew grass all over and even mulch chunks.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: XocolateThundarr on June 26, 2014, 01:55:54 PM
yeah, my trimmer came with a blower (not a vacuum one though). I just swapped out the battery and blew the grass off.

What did you buy?  I need to swap out my old gas model and a combo with a blower sounds really cool.

http://www.amazon.com/Black-Decker-LCC140-40-volt-Trimmer/dp/B00JGUAP8W/ref=zg_bsnr_553954_1

Nice.  Does the blower feel like it has quite a bit of power?  No problem getting grass clippings off of the concrete?

yeah, I've never used a blower before and it's really small but it was quiet and blew grass all over and even mulch chunks.

Cool.  You should get a commission check from B&D because you just sold one of these to me.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Benja on June 26, 2014, 01:58:46 PM
SD, when you were done mowing and manicuring and such, did you sit on your porch and sip ice tea while making little "ahh" noises after each sip and gazing out at your lawn in a very self-satisfied manner?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on June 26, 2014, 02:00:21 PM
SD, when you were done mowing and manicuring and such, did you sit on your porch and sip ice tea while making little "ahh" noises after each sip and gazing out at your lawn in a very self-satisfied manner?

no, I was too gross with like little micro pieces of grass stuck all over my legs and also very sweaty. took a shower then sat in the air conditioning.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Benja on June 26, 2014, 02:16:15 PM
SD, when you were done mowing and manicuring and such, did you sit on your porch and sip ice tea while making little "ahh" noises after each sip and gazing out at your lawn in a very self-satisfied manner?

no, I was too gross with like little micro pieces of grass stuck all over my legs and also very sweaty. took a shower then sat in the air conditioning.

oh alright. well still a good evening.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Skipper44 on June 26, 2014, 02:18:42 PM
yeah, my trimmer came with a blower (not a vacuum one though). I just swapped out the battery and blew the grass off.

What did you buy?  I need to swap out my old gas model and a combo with a blower sounds really cool.

http://www.amazon.com/Black-Decker-LCC140-40-volt-Trimmer/dp/B00JGUAP8W/ref=zg_bsnr_553954_1

Nice.  Does the blower feel like it has quite a bit of power?  No problem getting grass clippings off of the concrete?

yeah, I've never used a blower before and it's really small but it was quiet and blew grass all over and even mulch chunks.

Cool.  You should get a commission check from B&D because you just sold one of these to me.
DO NOT be tempted to save a couple of bucks and get the 18v version, I have it and 18v is barely enough to do a slightly larger than average drive way and very little sidewalk.  I am very happy with the 18v B&D hedge trimmer tho.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: slobber on June 26, 2014, 07:49:01 PM
I think the greatest thing about sd posts are that he is a farm boy from Meade. It really puts his bbs'n ability into perspective when you read his posts with that in mind.
sd, someday I hope to crush a miller lite with you, preferably while looking at that beautiful lawn of yours.


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Cire on June 26, 2014, 11:14:39 PM
sd, when you come back to life, please tell us if you think it looks awesome or not. Also, how big is your lot that it took 1 hr and 45 minutes? I am guessing that is becasue you were bagging it per my recommendation since the grass was so long. Once you get on a regular schedule, you'll probably  be able to mow in 30-40 minutes and then edge a few times a year at most.

yes, bagged except for about half of the back because I filled my entire yard waste bin up  :sdeek:

I don't know how big it is. the entire lot is less than 1/2 an acre and some of that is covered with a three car driveway and sidewalks and junk. also a house is on some of it. looks ok but still has the lines in it from laying the sod and some parts weren't rooted completely down and pulled a bit. overall it's pretty solid. also edged it and blew off the sidewalk and junk. trimmer battery lasted for the entire trim/edge/blower session on one charge which was nice. got grass all over my legs, very gross. don't empty your bag into your container over your driveway. do it in the grass. good pro-tip here. had to read the manual to figure out how to start my mower. it mows good I think. going to mulch it this weekend. going to watering once a day this week and then a normal every other day schedule.

you can buy a cylander that fits into the lawn bag like a funnel for grass.  makes bagging very efficient.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on June 27, 2014, 06:02:00 PM
kat kid becomes the first gE to visit the house that gE built. wow. what an amazing thing for him.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: puniraptor on June 27, 2014, 06:08:12 PM
Thermostat check please, KK.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 27, 2014, 06:09:42 PM
kat kid becomes the first gE to visit the house that gE built. wow. what an amazing thing for him.

Besides ph69
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: puniraptor on June 27, 2014, 06:15:17 PM
Thermostat check please, KK.
I'm talking like a pic with the 'stat and today's Sarpy Free Press
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Spracne on June 27, 2014, 06:32:46 PM
Found this pic of KK's thermos tat
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1.cpcache.com%2Fproduct%2F481574065%2Fbubba_tattoo_thermos_bottle_12_oz.jpg%3Fcolor%3DBlack%26amp%3Bheight%3D460%26amp%3Bwidth%3D460%26amp%3Bqv%3D90&hash=1ff411571fa5146b158bcf8b3fe60a0e178cc328)
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Tobias on July 01, 2014, 09:02:43 AM
kk, renderings?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Kat Kid on July 01, 2014, 10:42:27 AM
I don't kiss and tell.  But I will let you know, the house is super sexy and irresistible and any other house would have no complaint about you cheating on it with sd's house.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Tobias on July 01, 2014, 10:44:03 AM
:love:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: _33 on July 01, 2014, 10:45:40 AM
I was in Omaha from the 26th-29th.  Did not see sd's house despite keeping a constant eye out for it.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Emo EMAW on July 07, 2014, 01:12:29 PM
I guess my parents really are moving.  :frown:

(https://scontent-a-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10525819_803888269630870_1891017183772427260_n.jpg?oh=da960e3ee664d044e421d3b6cda134ac&oe=54213EF1)

Also, why is every person in a construction picture not doing anything?  :dubious:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: SkinnyBenny on July 07, 2014, 01:30:24 PM
Where did they live/where are they moving to?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Emo EMAW on July 07, 2014, 01:31:36 PM
KS > WA
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: SkinnyBenny on July 07, 2014, 01:33:08 PM
:frown: I hope my parents never move out of MHK.
 
Which part of WA? Palouse part or Sound part?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Emo EMAW on July 07, 2014, 01:36:00 PM
Close to Portland, OR.  I think they are moving away because there are two grandkids on the way and they are done with shitted diapers.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on July 07, 2014, 01:46:02 PM
Close to Portland, OR.  I think they are moving away because there are two grandkids on the way and they are done with shitted diapers.

they sound like they are going to be really awful grandparents
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on July 07, 2014, 01:50:51 PM
looks like they are going to have a pretty balls new place tho
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Emo EMAW on July 07, 2014, 01:53:11 PM
I really have no expectation of grandparentedness but you're right sd early evidence is not promising.  They're the types to start a college fund but for the most part stay away unless specifically invited.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Benja on July 07, 2014, 01:57:31 PM
Close to Portland, OR.  I think they are moving away because there are two grandkids on the way and they are done with shitted diapers.

they sound like they are going to be really awful grandparents

sounds like they're not really going to be grandparents at all
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Tobias on July 07, 2014, 02:02:55 PM
#teamEmosParents :don'tcare:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: 8manpick on July 07, 2014, 02:06:08 PM
#teamEmosParents :don'tcare:
You're right, it sounds like Emo's parents don't care. :frown:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on July 07, 2014, 02:07:18 PM
Sounds like Emo's parents are going to let him be a parent and not raise the kids for him.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Emo EMAW on July 07, 2014, 02:08:52 PM
Really my parents just did a good job of saving and it's time to retire to that house on the hill with a view.  And an indoor pool.  And an elevator in case one of them ends up wheelchair bound.  You see they're planners.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Tobias on July 07, 2014, 02:10:02 PM
Really my parents just did a good job of saving and it's time to retire to that house on the hill with a view.  And an indoor pool.  And an elevator in case one of them ends up wheelchair bound.  You see they're planners.

your parents sound like studs
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: SkinnyBenny on July 07, 2014, 02:11:10 PM
Sounds like Emo's parents are going to let him be a parent and not raise the kids for him.

I have a friend who just had his first kid. His mother-in-law flew into town the morning the kid was born and stayed in their apartment for the entire first month. She finally said goodbye, then immediately got bored and invited herself back. Flew in and stayed for another week.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: wetwillie on July 07, 2014, 02:12:35 PM
they surely paid their dues raising emo, I'm guessing they are saints for not moving abroad and not giving a forwarding address.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Emo EMAW on July 07, 2014, 02:18:00 PM
FWIW I'm the least messed up of my siblings.  :D
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: CNS on July 07, 2014, 02:21:52 PM
As long as they don't insist that ppl come to them for holidays, bdays, etc, then this should work out fine. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: schreds21 on July 07, 2014, 02:49:28 PM
I don't think Emo will want take baby Emos out there anyway and risk them being abducted by the aliens flying around in that UFO in the pic!   :ohno:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Benja on July 07, 2014, 02:54:39 PM
Really my parents just did a good job of saving and it's time to retire to that house on the hill with a view.  And an indoor pool.  And an elevator in case one of them ends up wheelchair bound.  You see they're planners.

FTR the place they're going looks beautiful
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: star seed 7 on July 07, 2014, 05:11:16 PM
I guess my parents really are moving.  :frown:

(https://scontent-a-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10525819_803888269630870_1891017183772427260_n.jpg?oh=da960e3ee664d044e421d3b6cda134ac&oe=54213EF1)

Also, why is every person in a construction picture not doing anything?  :dubious:

Looks like they are waiting for the pump to set up
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Boom Roasted on July 07, 2014, 09:00:10 PM

Really my parents just did a good job of saving and it's time to retire to that house on the hill with a view.  And an indoor pool.  And an elevator in case one of them ends up wheelchair bound.  You see they're planners.
EMOs parents sound like BRs parents. Youngest bro finished college, old man retired(mom still part time). Now they are just bouncing house to house with the seasons.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: GoodForAnother on July 07, 2014, 11:04:29 PM
WA looks p much exactly like the Ozarks, should've just gone there
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: pissclams on July 07, 2014, 11:15:45 PM
I don't see any go kart tracks in that pick of WA.  point:  ozarks
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: CNS on July 08, 2014, 06:30:03 AM
Not one creepy billboard about creepy white people entertainment shows or revivals in that pic.  Not one.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: mhkpasa on July 08, 2014, 07:50:45 AM
Not one creepy billboard about creepy white people entertainment shows or revivals in that pic.  Not one.

 :thumbs:
or Yakov Smirnoff's mug
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Emo EMAW on July 08, 2014, 10:36:51 AM
Income tax in the Ozarks, tho.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: UCHADBRO on July 17, 2014, 12:52:22 AM
Hey guys, not sure if this is the correct thread but here we go anyways:

I am 6'3 and have always struggled with being able to wash my hair comfortably in the shower. I'm finally fed up with this and have decided to take immediate action. I read online that an S pipe may solve my problem.

This brings me to my question I would like answered: Do any of you other tall GE'rs have any solutions to this problem. I'm mostly worried about disconnecting the standard pipe and putting myself at risk for a basilisk encounter. Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: XocolateThundarr on July 17, 2014, 05:56:16 AM
Buy a rain head that screws on to shower pipe. Most of them have a swivel adjustment that will give at least another 6" of height to most any shower.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Asteriskhead on July 17, 2014, 07:27:38 AM
Yea, Emo's parents sound like complete studs.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on July 17, 2014, 08:25:47 AM
S-pipes are easy to install, but most detachable wand or rain style heads will give you extra height too.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on July 17, 2014, 08:32:09 AM
I hate it when the shower is too tall and it is like 2 feet away from you so the water pressure isn't very high by the time it reaches you.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: slobber on July 17, 2014, 09:09:53 AM
I have never encountered a shower head that was too tall.


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on July 17, 2014, 09:11:23 AM
I have never encountered a shower head that was too tall.


Gonna win 'em all!

I have.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: SkinnyBenny on July 17, 2014, 09:12:08 AM
S-pipes are easy to install, but most detachable wand or rain style heads will give you extra height too.

Yes but these are garbage and look like garbage. It's like, is this a stud's shower or my Grandma's shower? Because I thought I was a stud but I guess not.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Emo EMAW on July 17, 2014, 09:15:16 AM
Can't you just install like one of those ones that you can detach and has a hose and you can hold it with your hand and manipulate it how you want?  That's how they all are in Europe so I assume it's better (but I don't know why).
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on July 17, 2014, 09:41:14 AM
Can't you just install like one of those ones that you can detach and has a hose and you can hold it with your hand and manipulate it how you want?  That's how they all are in Europe so I assume it's better (but I don't know why).

our new shower has one of those and a rain head one. I have never used the hose one. I think mrs. dave may use them in tandem. it's sometimes switched over so they both spray when I turn it on.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on July 17, 2014, 09:45:09 AM
Can't you just install like one of those ones that you can detach and has a hose and you can hold it with your hand and manipulate it how you want?  That's how they all are in Europe so I assume it's better (but I don't know why).

But then you only have one hand to shampoo, lather, etc.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on July 17, 2014, 09:46:26 AM
Can't you just install like one of those ones that you can detach and has a hose and you can hold it with your hand and manipulate it how you want?  That's how they all are in Europe so I assume it's better (but I don't know why).

But then you only have one hand to shampoo, lather, etc.

ours is on a rod thing so you can adjust it as high or low as you want and tilt it anyway you want. then you can unhook it or whatever and hold it if you want to hold it.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: SkinnyBenny on July 17, 2014, 09:47:19 AM
Can't you just install like one of those ones that you can detach and has a hose and you can hold it with your hand and manipulate it how you want?  That's how they all are in Europe so I assume it's better (but I don't know why).

our new shower has one of those and a rain head one. I have never used the hose one. I think mrs. dave may use them in tandem. it's sometimes switched over so they both spray when I turn it on.

no katdaddy
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on July 17, 2014, 09:47:57 AM
Can't you just install like one of those ones that you can detach and has a hose and you can hold it with your hand and manipulate it how you want?  That's how they all are in Europe so I assume it's better (but I don't know why).

But then you only have one hand to shampoo, lather, etc.

ours is on a rod thing so you can adjust it as high or low as you want and tilt it anyway you want. then you can unhook it or whatever and hold it if you want to hold it.

ours is kind of like this:

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimage.homeclick.com%2Fproduct-enlarged%2Fmoen-3667ep.jpg&hash=2c6d54b23e4726c99bacb526e4c78a79416283f9)
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: SkinnyBenny on July 17, 2014, 09:49:09 AM
Question for elite construction/HVAC cats. How important is it to have fiberglass encapsulated lining on your HVAC system? Our new house apparently was built with just fiberglass lining (?), which I've heard can be bad for the lungs long-term. I am a distance runner for my career and I moonlight as an opera singer so I need my lungs for a long long time.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Asteriskhead on July 17, 2014, 09:57:33 AM
Can't you just install like one of those ones that you can detach and has a hose and you can hold it with your hand and manipulate it how you want?  That's how they all are in Europe so I assume it's better (but I don't know why).

But then you only have one hand to shampoo, lather, etc.

ours is on a rod thing so you can adjust it as high or low as you want and tilt it anyway you want. then you can unhook it or whatever and hold it if you want to hold it.

ours is kind of like this:

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimage.homeclick.com%2Fproduct-enlarged%2Fmoen-3667ep.jpg&hash=2c6d54b23e4726c99bacb526e4c78a79416283f9)

That looks much nicer than I imagined. The one in my hospital shower looks like something you would find in an RV.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Emo EMAW on July 17, 2014, 09:58:24 AM
What happened MH? 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on July 17, 2014, 09:59:15 AM
Can't you just install like one of those ones that you can detach and has a hose and you can hold it with your hand and manipulate it how you want?  That's how they all are in Europe so I assume it's better (but I don't know why).

But then you only have one hand to shampoo, lather, etc.

ours is on a rod thing so you can adjust it as high or low as you want and tilt it anyway you want. then you can unhook it or whatever and hold it if you want to hold it.

ours is kind of like this:

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimage.homeclick.com%2Fproduct-enlarged%2Fmoen-3667ep.jpg&hash=2c6d54b23e4726c99bacb526e4c78a79416283f9)

That looks much nicer than I imagined. The one in my hospital shower looks like something you would find in an RV.

yeah, I've seen them be pretty garbagey.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: ChiComCat on July 17, 2014, 09:59:44 AM

Hey guys, not sure if this is the correct thread but here we go anyways:

I am 6'3 and have always struggled with being able to wash my hair comfortably in the shower. I'm finally fed up with this and have decided to take immediate action. I read online that an S pipe may solve my problem.

This brings me to my question I would like answered: Do any of you other tall GE'rs have any solutions to this problem. I'm mostly worried about disconnecting the standard pipe and putting myself at risk for a basilisk encounter. Thanks in advance!
Look, if you are working on a shower then you are going to run into a basilisk so just get over that fear now
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Emo EMAW on July 17, 2014, 10:00:11 AM
Remember when Monica from Friends had one of those and she was really enjoying it?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Asteriskhead on July 17, 2014, 10:03:06 AM
What happened MH?

It's a long story, but the basics are Crohn's disease flare up > appendicitis + small carcinoid tumor > thrombosis of the splenic and inferior mesenteric veins. I should be getting out tomorrow.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on July 17, 2014, 10:03:30 AM
The shower head thing we got for the new shower has a rain head, handheld, and some body jets. I will report back about it in 3 weeks.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Emo EMAW on July 17, 2014, 10:10:12 AM
What happened MH?

It's a long story, but the basics are Crohn's disease flare up > appendicitis + small carcinoid tumor > thrombosis of the splenic and inferior mesenteric veins. I should be getting out tomorrow.

Holy eff.  Hope you get better.  Crohn's sucks. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: pissclams on July 17, 2014, 10:35:25 AM
What happened MH?

It's a long story, but the basics are Crohn's disease flare up > appendicitis + small carcinoid tumor > thrombosis of the splenic and inferior mesenteric veins. I should be getting out tomorrow.

i had no idea, t's & p's MH (it hasn't effected your posting), here's a pizza (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rivercitypizza.com%2FPepperoniPizza-full.jpg&hash=e80d5d335ccd9dcea684a23277d9c1c6bace71ca)
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: sys on July 17, 2014, 10:47:34 AM
metalhead, i don't think i know who you are, but i'm sorry you're dying.  godspeed.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Asteriskhead on July 17, 2014, 11:19:04 AM
What happened MH?

It's a long story, but the basics are Crohn's disease flare up > appendicitis + small carcinoid tumor > thrombosis of the splenic and inferior mesenteric veins. I should be getting out tomorrow.

Holy eff.  Hope you get better.  Crohn's sucks.

I appreciate it, Emo. I got diagnosed in 2003. I'm used to dealing with it, but this has been the worst flare up yet. However, it's because the drugs they were using to treat my Crohn's was hiding the appendicitis. Not much you can do about that when dealing with an autoimmune disease. It's been a long 14 days. I'm ready to get out of here.

i had no idea, t's & p's MH (it hasn't effected your posting), here's a pizza (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rivercitypizza.com%2FPepperoniPizza-full.jpg&hash=e80d5d335ccd9dcea684a23277d9c1c6bace71ca)

Thanks, 'clams. I'll eat the crap out of that pizza once my GI tract can handle it (I love pizza).

metalhead, i don't think i know who you are, but i'm sorry you're dying.  godspeed.

I appreciate the concern, but I'm not dying.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: AppleJack on July 17, 2014, 12:31:14 PM
purchased another mansion on Tuesday.

Who wants to learn how to install a fence  :surprised:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: SkinnyBenny on July 17, 2014, 12:42:44 PM
I would love to learn that, AppleJack.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: sys on July 17, 2014, 12:48:53 PM
I appreciate the concern, but I'm not dying.

inspirational.  :sniffanddab@eyeswithatissue:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: star seed 7 on July 17, 2014, 05:59:37 PM
I appreciate the concern, but I'm not dying.

inspirational.  :sniffanddab@eyeswithatissue:

he's my friend, dad.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: sys on July 17, 2014, 06:05:14 PM
he seems like a nice young man.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Asteriskhead on July 17, 2014, 06:06:19 PM
I appreciate the concern, but I'm not dying.

inspirational.  :sniffanddab@eyeswithatissue:

he's my friend, dad.

I might have died had the surgeon not taken my appendix on a whim during exploratory surgery. Prednisone is a mumped up drug that can mask a lot of problems. I'm not dying, though.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Asteriskhead on July 17, 2014, 06:06:52 PM
he seems like a nice young man.

 :blush:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: sys on July 17, 2014, 06:10:11 PM
my mother had crohn's disease and died when the doctors didn't notice other stuff (true story, not rough ridin' around).  to be fair to the doctors, she probably would have died anyways, even if diagnosed more rapidly.

anyways, be careful.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: IPA4Me on July 17, 2014, 06:21:22 PM
Question for elite construction/HVAC cats. How important is it to have fiberglass encapsulated lining on your HVAC system? Our new house apparently was built with just fiberglass lining (?), which I've heard can be bad for the lungs long-term. I am a distance runner for my career and I moonlight as an opera singer so I need my lungs for a long long time.
Do you mean duct board?


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It will last a long time and be safe as long as it was installed correctly.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Asteriskhead on July 17, 2014, 06:23:50 PM
my mother had crohn's disease and died when the doctors didn't notice other stuff (true story, not rough ridin' around).  to be fair to the doctors, she probably would have died anyways, even if diagnosed more rapidly.

anyways, be careful.

I'm sorry to hear that, sys. It is an awful disease. Thank you for your support.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: chum1 on July 17, 2014, 06:24:56 PM
Say, anyone here know someone that died while taking a shower? Or at a concentration camp?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: SkinnyBenny on July 17, 2014, 06:40:26 PM
Say, anyone here know someone that died while taking a shower?

I do. :frown:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: SkinnyBenny on July 17, 2014, 06:42:38 PM
Question for elite construction/HVAC cats. How important is it to have fiberglass encapsulated lining on your HVAC system? Our new house apparently was built with just fiberglass lining (?), which I've heard can be bad for the lungs long-term. I am a distance runner for my career and I moonlight as an opera singer so I need my lungs for a long long time.
Do you mean duct board?


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It will last a long time and be safe as long as it was installed correctly.

I mean, I guess? Those were the terms I jotted down when I was on the phone talking to potential inspectors. This one guy went out of his way to call me back later and talk to me about encapsulated fiberglass lining or whatever. So our house hasn't been inspected yet, but this is something that'll show up on an official home inspection, right?

Can you HVAC studs give me some terms to ask the inspector/builder about? Stuff that, like, I should definitely make sure they check? I will write them down and bring them into the inspection with me.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: pissclams on July 17, 2014, 07:01:12 PM
I appreciate the concern, but I'm not dying.

inspirational.  :sniffanddab@eyeswithatissue:

he's my friend, dad.

I might have died had the surgeon not taken my appendix on a whim during exploratory surgery. Prednisone is a mumped up drug that can mask a lot of problems. I'm not dying, though.

i was all hopped up on increased prednisone levels the past few months, it's pretty tricky stuff
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: GoodForAnother on July 17, 2014, 08:00:31 PM
Question for elite construction/HVAC cats. How important is it to have fiberglass encapsulated lining on your HVAC system? Our new house apparently was built with just fiberglass lining (?), which I've heard can be bad for the lungs long-term. I am a distance runner for my career and I moonlight as an opera singer so I need my lungs for a long long time.
Do you mean duct board?


(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.certainteed.com%2Fimages%2Fproducts%2FhighRes%2Fptoughguardmd.jpg&hash=cd15be3bd4cf65f9044a9300f09db798dcbae03f)


It will last a long time and be safe as long as it was installed correctly.

I mean, I guess? Those were the terms I jotted down when I was on the phone talking to potential inspectors. This one guy went out of his way to call me back later and talk to me about encapsulated fiberglass lining or whatever. So our house hasn't been inspected yet, but this is something that'll show up on an official home inspection, right?

Can you HVAC studs give me some terms to ask the inspector/builder about? Stuff that, like, I should definitely make sure they check? I will write them down and bring them into the inspection with me.

why did you hire a home inspector that needs to be reminded what to check?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: SkinnyBenny on July 17, 2014, 08:32:06 PM
we haven't hired anybody, we just called around for price quotes and one guy started spouting a bunch of random unsolicited stuff about encapsulated fiberglass.

:dunno:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: IPA4Me on July 17, 2014, 08:36:59 PM
Question for elite construction/HVAC cats. How important is it to have fiberglass encapsulated lining on your HVAC system? Our new house apparently was built with just fiberglass lining (?), which I've heard can be bad for the lungs long-term. I am a distance runner for my career and I moonlight as an opera singer so I need my lungs for a long long time.
Do you mean duct board?


(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.certainteed.com%2Fimages%2Fproducts%2FhighRes%2Fptoughguardmd.jpg&hash=cd15be3bd4cf65f9044a9300f09db798dcbae03f)


It will last a long time and be safe as long as it was installed correctly.

I mean, I guess? Those were the terms I jotted down when I was on the phone talking to potential inspectors. This one guy went out of his way to call me back later and talk to me about encapsulated fiberglass lining or whatever. So our house hasn't been inspected yet, but this is something that'll show up on an official home inspection, right?

Can you HVAC studs give me some terms to ask the inspector/builder about? Stuff that, like, I should definitely make sure they check? I will write them down and bring them into the inspection with me.
I'd hire an hvac contractor to inspect the system separately from the home inspector. Most HI have no clue where hvac is concerned.

Back to your OP, I misread the insulation type. I wouldn't lose much sleep about encapsulated insulation vice standard duct liner. If there's a concern, buy a particulate counter and check for airborne. I doubt you'll see much in the way of insulation fibers.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Tobias on July 17, 2014, 08:41:19 PM
make sure your ducts are actually all connected, for starters
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: star seed 7 on July 17, 2014, 08:41:47 PM
yup, make sure to have an hvac salesman inspect your hvac system so you get an impartial report on if you need to replace that hvac system or not for thousands of dollars.

also make sure to get the honeywell salesman's advice on which thermostat to use.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: IPA4Me on July 17, 2014, 08:42:52 PM
make sure your ducts are actually all connected, for starters
Heh. Wise man.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: IPA4Me on July 17, 2014, 08:44:11 PM
yup, make sure to have an hvac salesman inspect your hvac system so you get an impartial report on if you need to replace that hvac system or not for thousands of dollars.

also make sure to get the honeywell salesman's advice on which thermostat to use.
Actually I'd recommend someone certified in building performance and whole house analysis. Not likely to find a  salesman that can perform the required testing.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: SkinnyBenny on July 17, 2014, 08:59:51 PM
It's a brand new house, fwiw. Not quite completed but should be in about two weeks.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on July 18, 2014, 08:33:05 AM
Can't you just install like one of those ones that you can detach and has a hose and you can hold it with your hand and manipulate it how you want?  That's how they all are in Europe so I assume it's better (but I don't know why).

you mean a detachable wand?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on July 18, 2014, 08:36:20 AM
we haven't hired anybody, we just called around for price quotes and one guy started spouting a bunch of random unsolicited stuff about encapsulated fiberglass.

:dunno:

you don't just hire a home inspector out of the phone book.   Get referrals and ask to see copies of reports on properties to see how thorough they are.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on July 18, 2014, 08:37:20 AM
Question for elite construction/HVAC cats. How important is it to have fiberglass encapsulated lining on your HVAC system? Our new house apparently was built with just fiberglass lining (?), which I've heard can be bad for the lungs long-term. I am a distance runner for my career and I moonlight as an opera singer so I need my lungs for a long long time.
Do you mean duct board?


(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.certainteed.com%2Fimages%2Fproducts%2FhighRes%2Fptoughguardmd.jpg&hash=cd15be3bd4cf65f9044a9300f09db798dcbae03f)


It will last a long time and be safe as long as it was installed correctly.

I mean, I guess? Those were the terms I jotted down when I was on the phone talking to potential inspectors. This one guy went out of his way to call me back later and talk to me about encapsulated fiberglass lining or whatever. So our house hasn't been inspected yet, but this is something that'll show up on an official home inspection, right?

Can you HVAC studs give me some terms to ask the inspector/builder about? Stuff that, like, I should definitely make sure they check? I will write them down and bring them into the inspection with me.
I'd hire an hvac contractor to inspect the system separately from the home inspector. Most HI have no clue where hvac is concerned.

Back to your OP, I misread the insulation type. I wouldn't lose much sleep about encapsulated insulation vice standard duct liner. If there's a concern, buy a particulate counter and check for airborne. I doubt you'll see much in the way of insulation fibers.

our HI has MEP contractors come in and review those trades as part of his services.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on July 18, 2014, 08:38:52 AM
It's a brand new house, fwiw. Not quite completed but should be in about two weeks.

still want to have it inspected obviously....lots of shitty builders out there.   at a minimum you want a NABI inspector, but get referrals from realtors, lenders, etc.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on July 18, 2014, 08:40:17 AM
Say, anyone here know someone that died while taking a shower?

I do. :frown:

Yeah, me too.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Tobias on July 18, 2014, 08:40:52 AM
doesn't CNS have a haunted shower now?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: AppleJack on July 19, 2014, 03:22:20 PM
people who have sprinkler systems - how do these things work? is there like an on/off switch somewhere? timer? is your water bill bananas?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on July 19, 2014, 03:37:15 PM

people who have sprinkler systems - how do these things work? is there like an on/off switch somewhere? timer? is your water bill bananas?

Have never not owned one so can't comment on bill differences but you can set them to do whatever you want. Come on at a set time on set days for set amounts at each station. Can't imagine not having one.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: WonderMeal on July 19, 2014, 04:00:37 PM
A few questions for SD:

1) How's the sod doing? How tall is it?
2) How many times has Mrs. SD used the giant tub?
3) Quick thermostat update, plz.
4) Did you ever buy those soaker houses for the plants that the sprinklers don't reach, or are you still watering them w/ the hose? are they dead?

If you're only going to answer a few, answer in order of priority: 4, 3, 1, 2.

TIA
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on July 19, 2014, 04:03:19 PM
1) ok, mowed it three times. It's kind of brownish because we had to have the sprinkler shut off for a few days to replace a valve

2) bath total is 2 and no sign of additional baths on the horizon

3) love the nest. So convenient and like the reports it sends me on usage.

4) alive. Water about once a week. Usually mrs Dave does it while I mow

Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: sys on July 19, 2014, 04:53:51 PM
people who have sprinkler systems - how do these things work? is there like an on/off switch somewhere? timer? is your water bill bananas?

dunno, dunno, yes, yes.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: CNS on July 19, 2014, 04:57:32 PM
doesn't CNS have a haunted shower now?

Yes.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: SkinnyBenny on July 19, 2014, 05:16:43 PM
we haven't hired anybody, we just called around for price quotes and one guy started spouting a bunch of random unsolicited stuff about encapsulated fiberglass.

:dunno:

you don't just hire a home inspector out of the phone book.   Get referrals and ask to see copies of reports on properties to see how thorough they are.

All the people I called are referrals from friends and realtors, and I've got a bunch of stud reports already. :gocho:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: ednksu on July 19, 2014, 07:01:47 PM
SD please update on lawn care equipment.  Did you stick with battery powered trimmers? 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on July 19, 2014, 07:48:17 PM

SD please update on lawn care equipment.  Did you stick with battery powered trimmers?

Yes, it works great. Can trim, edge and blow off the place in one charge.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Institutional Control on July 29, 2014, 08:55:06 AM
steve dave, get a toaster that burns a selfie on it and your house is complete.

You wife will love seeing your face every morning with her cup of coffee.

http://www.burntimpressions.com/

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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on July 29, 2014, 08:56:41 AM
I'm going to mow my grass again tonight guys
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Institutional Control on July 29, 2014, 08:57:28 AM
I'm going to mow my grass again tonight guys

T's & P's.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: puniraptor on July 29, 2014, 09:44:45 AM
i bought steve dave's trimmer/blower

seems to trim and blow pretty well but i've never really used trimmers before
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: XocolateThundarr on July 29, 2014, 10:33:54 AM
i bought steve dave's trimmer/blower

seems to trim and blow pretty well but i've never really used trimmers before
Me too. I also just ordered the hedge trimmers that use the same battery.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: puniraptor on July 29, 2014, 10:35:54 AM
they should make more tools for that battery

would like a recip. saw especially
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Emo EMAW on July 29, 2014, 11:00:59 AM
Mowing tonight, too.  Grass hasn't really been growing much since the rain turned off.  Still mostly green.  Also I bought a machete/saw combo and went to town on these shrubs that got out of control.  I let my imagination wander and found myself running point on a SOG mission into Laos.  We never made contact but I knew Charlie was out there.  I could smell him all around me.  Mission complete just before dark, called for extract at LZ bravo, popped smoke and headed in for chow.  Racked out pretty hard that night, even slept through some mortar fire.  Fuckin' Charlie. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on July 29, 2014, 11:13:44 AM
that's pretty weird emo
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on July 29, 2014, 11:15:15 AM
Middle of summer is obviously the best time to trim shrubs, emo.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: KSUblumpkin on July 29, 2014, 11:17:15 AM
Getting really settled into my new house.  I have four bathrooms and it is a real mother trucker cleaning up after people.  House maintenance sucks nuts.  I am starting up the mower tonight.  The new sod is looking really good.  I bought some orbit timers that have been solid.  It is a poor man's irrigation system, but it works for me.  The new sod has a few spots here and there, but I will deal with it later (new dirt/grass seed).  Water grass is sprouting in certain places and I am figuring out what the hell to do.  Got some new plants a week and a half ago that are the opposite of emo emaw's charlie sitch.  Really jacked about my blower and trimmer sharing the same batteries.  The trimmer came with 2 batteries and the blower came with 1 so I have 3 batteries to eff around with.  It's the little things you guys.

My old house was so much less work and I am missing it.  I outgrew it unfortunately. 

Sidenote: I went from a 2 bedroom house to a 5 bedroom house.  Spent like 10 grand in furniture the past month.  Furniture salesman are just the worst.  One doucher of a sales male genitals gave me grief over my smokin hot k-state shirt.  He liked flood aggie and I asked him how much he enjoys his 3 and 9 football seasons.  He then gave me some basketball smack.  It was just the worst convo in some time.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Emo EMAW on July 29, 2014, 11:44:29 AM
You guys don't let your imagination go to get through menial work?  Man, I couldn't survive without it.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on July 29, 2014, 11:52:48 AM
Getting really settled into my new house.  I have four bathrooms and it is a real mother trucker cleaning up after people.  House maintenance sucks nuts.  I am starting up the mower tonight.  The new sod is looking really good.  I bought some orbit timers that have been solid.  It is a poor man's irrigation system, but it works for me.  The new sod has a few spots here and there, but I will deal with it later (new dirt/grass seed).  Water grass is sprouting in certain places and I am figuring out what the hell to do.  Got some new plants a week and a half ago that are the opposite of emo emaw's charlie sitch.  Really jacked about my blower and trimmer sharing the same batteries.  The trimmer came with 2 batteries and the blower came with 1 so I have 3 batteries to eff around with.  It's the little things you guys.

My old house was so much less work and I am missing it.  I outgrew it unfortunately. 

Sidenote: I went from a 2 bedroom house to a 5 bedroom house.  Spent like 10 grand in furniture the past month.  Furniture salesman are just the worst.  One doucher of a sales male genitals gave me grief over my smokin hot k-state shirt.  He liked flood aggie and I asked him how much he enjoys his 3 and 9 football seasons.  He then gave me some basketball smack.  It was just the worst convo in some time.

did you ask how many bathrooms his house boat has?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: CNS on July 29, 2014, 12:05:59 PM
You guys don't let your imagination go to get through menial work?  Man, I couldn't survive without it.
Headphones work well for me.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: star seed 7 on July 29, 2014, 12:19:54 PM
Why does a single guy living alone need a 5 bedroom house?

Oh wait, transformers
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Stevesie60 on July 29, 2014, 12:31:02 PM
I have to buy a mower now. Is craigslist the way to go or should I go to Sears or something so I can get it with a warranty?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Institutional Control on July 29, 2014, 12:44:42 PM
I have to buy a mower now. Is craigslist the way to go or should I go to Sears or something so I can get it with a warranty?

Riding mower or push?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: puniraptor on July 29, 2014, 12:54:55 PM
I have to buy a mower now. Is craigslist the way to go or should I go to Sears or something so I can get it with a warranty?

Riding mower or push?

what about that guy on houston street with 50 lawnmowers in the front yard?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Stevesie60 on July 29, 2014, 01:29:28 PM
I have to buy a mower now. Is craigslist the way to go or should I go to Sears or something so I can get it with a warranty?

Riding mower or push?

Push.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Boom Roasted on July 29, 2014, 01:29:38 PM

I have to buy a mower now. Is craigslist the way to go or should I go to Sears or something so I can get it with a warranty?
I like mine from Sears. Comes with a solid warranty. Figure I'll keep if for years and years.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Institutional Control on July 29, 2014, 01:38:43 PM
I have to buy a mower now. Is craigslist the way to go or should I go to Sears or something so I can get it with a warranty?

Riding mower or push?

Push.
I would just buy a $200 push mower at Lowes and use it until runs into the ground and then get another one.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: CNS on July 29, 2014, 01:50:16 PM
A good push mower is cheap.  Last one I had was a Toro self propelled.  It was awesome.  It had a guaranteed to start thingy and it never took more than two pulls to get it going.  We had it ten years, changed oil every other summer, and neglected the crap out of it in general.  It worked like new every time.  Would get again if I didn't have a huge lawn now.  Also, it was like $300 or something.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: KSUblumpkin on July 29, 2014, 02:17:15 PM
A good push mower is cheap.  Last one I had was a Toro self propelled.  It was awesome.  It had a guaranteed to start thingy and it never took more than two pulls to get it going.  We had it ten years, changed oil every other summer, and neglected the crap out of it in general.  It worked like new every time.  Would get again if I didn't have a huge lawn now.  Also, it was like $300 or something.

Definitely agree here.  I have a Toro self propel as well and it works like a dream with little upkeep.  I've had it for several years now and it has been amazing.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Asteriskhead on July 29, 2014, 02:18:18 PM
A good push mower is cheap.  Last one I had was a Toro self propelled.  It was awesome.  It had a guaranteed to start thingy and it never took more than two pulls to get it going.  We had it ten years, changed oil every other summer, and neglected the crap out of it in general.  It worked like new every time.  Would get again if I didn't have a huge lawn now.  Also, it was like $300 or something.

Yea, Toro self-propelled with the guaranteed start are the bee's knees.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: KSUblumpkin on July 29, 2014, 02:21:02 PM
Why does a single guy living alone need a 5 bedroom house?

Oh wait, transformers

My brother is moving in with me and I needed a decent office to house the journals I use frequently.  Plus, I needed a tax write-off due to the farm I inherited and my family's accountant said it was a good idea to deduct some interest so figured why not.  Definitely regretting the decision.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: slobber on July 29, 2014, 02:24:03 PM

Why does a single guy living alone need a 5 bedroom house?

Oh wait, transformers

My brother is moving in with me and I needed a decent office to house the journals I use frequently.  Plus, I needed a tax write-off due to the farm I inherited and my family's accountant said it was a good idea to deduct some interest so figured why not.  Definitely regretting the decision.
Plus the transformer windfall.


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: KSUblumpkin on July 29, 2014, 02:33:47 PM

Why does a single guy living alone need a 5 bedroom house?

Oh wait, transformers

My brother is moving in with me and I needed a decent office to house the journals I use frequently.  Plus, I needed a tax write-off due to the farm I inherited and my family's accountant said it was a good idea to deduct some interest so figured why not.  Definitely regretting the decision.
Plus the transformer windfall.


Gonna win 'em all!

Very true.  I definitely down sized, but took the money and invested it into more farmland.  I was able to add roughly 20 acres onto my farm which will be great come tax season (along with the new house).  Plus the income from the farm addition will be nice as well which will offset some of the taxes on the toys.  My family's accountant showed me the numbers and it made sense to not throw money away staying in my old house.  I miss it, but it made sense plus it would give my younger brother a place to live while he finishes his schooling.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Emo EMAW on July 29, 2014, 02:34:36 PM
Get him to post here.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: KSUblumpkin on July 29, 2014, 02:37:46 PM
Get him to post here.

He couldn't handle it.  Plus, he is a borderline KU t-shirt fan.  My dad would turn over in his grave if he knew that.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: XocolateThundarr on July 29, 2014, 03:55:02 PM
Get him to post here.

He couldn't handle it.  Plus, he is a borderline KU t-shirt fan.  My dad would turn over in his grave if he knew that.

I would IRL PI him mercilessly once he moves in until he sees the error of his ways.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Emo EMAW on July 29, 2014, 03:56:39 PM
Get him to post here.

He couldn't handle it.  Plus, he is a borderline KU t-shirt fan.  My dad would turn over in his grave if he knew that.

I meant the accountant.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: dmartin on July 31, 2014, 03:17:04 PM
people who have sprinkler systems - how do these things work? is there like an on/off switch somewhere? timer? is your water bill bananas?

Don't most people with sprinkler systems have private wells?  I can't imagine running the sprinkler system off metered water.

and yes, there is a timer that can be manually turned off and on.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on July 31, 2014, 03:18:04 PM
people who have sprinkler systems - how do these things work? is there like an on/off switch somewhere? timer? is your water bill bananas?

Don't most people with sprinkler systems have private wells?  I can't imagine running the sprinkler system off metered water.

lol wut
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Emo EMAW on July 31, 2014, 03:18:59 PM
people who have sprinkler systems - how do these things work? is there like an on/off switch somewhere? timer? is your water bill bananas?

Don't most people with sprinkler systems have private wells?  I can't imagine running the sprinkler system off metered water.

and yes, there is a timer that can be manually turned off and on.

Water is super cheap in some places.  Probably most of this blog's readership has access to super cheap water.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: dmartin on July 31, 2014, 03:22:06 PM
people who have sprinkler systems - how do these things work? is there like an on/off switch somewhere? timer? is your water bill bananas?

Don't most people with sprinkler systems have private wells?  I can't imagine running the sprinkler system off metered water.

lol wut

so you're saying your system is run off of metered water?  Honestly, this is suprising to me. I can not think of a person I have met that has a house less than 20 years old that has a sprinkler system running off of metered water.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Emo EMAW on July 31, 2014, 03:22:54 PM
Where do you live dmartin?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Tobias on July 31, 2014, 03:23:38 PM
everyone in my 'hood has sprinklers running off city water :dunno:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: dmartin on July 31, 2014, 03:25:15 PM
Where do you live dmartin?

Hutch
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Emo EMAW on July 31, 2014, 03:26:00 PM
Like people in the city limits of Hutch be drilling wells?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on July 31, 2014, 03:26:18 PM
people who have sprinkler systems - how do these things work? is there like an on/off switch somewhere? timer? is your water bill bananas?

Don't most people with sprinkler systems have private wells?  I can't imagine running the sprinkler system off metered water.

lol wut

so you're saying your system is run off of metered water?  Honestly, this is suprising to me. I can not think of a person I have met that has a house less than 20 years old that has a sprinkler system running off of metered water.

yes. my current house (built in 2014) and my old house (built in 2005) both had sprinkler systems on metered water. I have 7 zones and run the living crap out of the systems and my bill is about $30 a month in the middle of summer and almost nothing when we aren't running it the rest of the season. water costs almost nothing here. we are neighbors with flood city, USA though.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: XocolateThundarr on July 31, 2014, 03:39:53 PM
people who have sprinkler systems - how do these things work? is there like an on/off switch somewhere? timer? is your water bill bananas?

Don't most people with sprinkler systems have private wells?  I can't imagine running the sprinkler system off metered water.

lol wut

so you're saying your system is run off of metered water?  Honestly, this is suprising to me. I can not think of a person I have met that has a house less than 20 years old that has a sprinkler system running off of metered water.

yes. my current house (built in 2014) and my old house (built in 2005) both had sprinkler systems on metered water. I have 7 zones and run the living crap out of the systems and my bill is about $30 a month in the middle of summer and almost nothing when we aren't running it the rest of the season. water costs almost nothing here. we are neighbors with flood city, USA though.

True story....I have had a $400 water bill before.  :sdeek:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on July 31, 2014, 03:51:39 PM
a lot of people in wichita drill a well. most nice houses i'd say. nobody in mhk does. flint hills? idk. my water bill in summer is like $150.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: CNS on July 31, 2014, 04:27:25 PM
I know of biz's with sprinklers in KCMO that get a second meter specifically just for watering the lawn because they don't pay some sewer tax on the water spent on the lawn, and the second meter is the only way to actually prove the quantity not hitting the drain.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: slobber on July 31, 2014, 04:30:04 PM

I know of biz's with sprinklers in KCMO that get a second meter specifically just for watering the lawn because they don't pay some sewer tax on the water spent on the lawn, and the second meter is the only way to actually prove the quantity not hitting the drain.
required where I live. You pay a little more per 10,000 gallons, but no sewer tax.
THANKS OBAMA!


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Tobias on July 31, 2014, 04:32:59 PM
I know of biz's with sprinklers in KCMO that get a second meter specifically just for watering the lawn because they don't pay some sewer tax on the water spent on the lawn, and the second meter is the only way to actually prove the quantity not hitting the drain.

people used to do that in salina many years ago, but nowadays you pay an "excess use fee" (irrigation tax, basically) for water consumed above and beyond the average of your winter monthly consumption (which is also used to set your sewer bill)
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: CNS on July 31, 2014, 04:34:44 PM
Long winter showers bring cheap May flowers.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Tobias on July 31, 2014, 04:35:50 PM
Long winter showers bring cheap May flowers.

then you end up paying a larger sewer bill all year round.  the system works out pretty well imo
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: CNS on July 31, 2014, 04:37:26 PM
rain barrels it is!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Gooch on July 31, 2014, 04:54:27 PM
I know of biz's with sprinklers in KCMO that get a second meter specifically just for watering the lawn because they don't pay some sewer tax on the water spent on the lawn, and the second meter is the only way to actually prove the quantity not hitting the drain.
I absolutely need to do this. I don't mind paying for the water but eff man it's not going in the sewer. That accounts for a large portion of my bill.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on July 31, 2014, 06:29:53 PM
Thanks Nebraska!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on July 31, 2014, 07:42:39 PM
I know of biz's with sprinklers in KCMO that get a second meter specifically just for watering the lawn because they don't pay some sewer tax on the water spent on the lawn, and the second meter is the only way to actually prove the quantity not hitting the drain.
I absolutely need to do this. I don't mind paying for the water but eff man it's not going in the sewer. That accounts for a large portion of my bill.

wtf don't you drill a well? everyone in ict i know has one.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on July 31, 2014, 07:46:04 PM
I had no idea private "urban" residents in the lower 48 had their own wells anywhere.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on July 31, 2014, 07:53:23 PM
I had no idea private "urban" residents in the lower 48 had their own wells anywhere.

"well" might not be the right word. i don't know. but you drill super deep into the ground and then you water your yard with whatever is down there. you pay like 3k or whatever but then yard water is free for life. some people are able to rent their own stuff i think and do it on their own but i think it's better to just pay. most people i know in wichita do it.*


*i know like 11 wichita households.
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Post by: Spracne on July 31, 2014, 07:55:13 PM
I know most Lawrence residents who live near the stadium are able to drill shallow wells and water their lawns for free
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: star seed 7 on July 31, 2014, 07:56:06 PM
I thought a well cost way more than 3k to drill
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Post by: wetwillie on July 31, 2014, 08:07:50 PM
Rick daris promoting the raping of our natural resources....sad. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: IPA4Me on July 31, 2014, 08:29:10 PM
We did it in Wellington thirty years ago. Had a little pump house in the front yard. As others noted, pretty common to see there. Don't see it so much here in KY. Grass stays pretty green without watering.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: XocolateThundarr on July 31, 2014, 09:48:38 PM

I know of biz's with sprinklers in KCMO that get a second meter specifically just for watering the lawn because they don't pay some sewer tax on the water spent on the lawn, and the second meter is the only way to actually prove the quantity not hitting the drain.
I absolutely need to do this. I don't mind paying for the water but eff man it's not going in the sewer. That accounts for a large portion of my bill.

wtf don't you drill a well? everyone in ict i know has one.

Wells in our area are hit or miss. Might hit one that is awesome and might hit one that is horrible.  No guarantee.  In west Wichita you can dig your own well with a sharpshooter not so much in Kechi.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: slobber on July 31, 2014, 10:15:20 PM
Who has the witching sticks?
Some houses in urban NC have their own wells for both potable and non-potable use.


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: kim carnes on July 31, 2014, 10:53:04 PM
people who have sprinkler systems - how do these things work? is there like an on/off switch somewhere? timer? is your water bill bananas?

Don't most people with sprinkler systems have private wells?  I can't imagine running the sprinkler system off metered water.

lol wut

so you're saying your system is run off of metered water?  Honestly, this is suprising to me. I can not think of a person I have met that has a house less than 20 years old that has a sprinkler system running off of metered water.

yes. my current house (built in 2014) and my old house (built in 2005) both had sprinkler systems on metered water. I have 7 zones and run the living crap out of the systems and my bill is about $30 a month in the middle of summer and almost nothing when we aren't running it the rest of the season. water costs almost nothing here. we are neighbors with flood city, USA though.

holy cow, that is amazingly cheap
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: puniraptor on July 31, 2014, 11:11:57 PM
The ogallala weeps.
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Post by: GoodForAnother on July 31, 2014, 11:35:33 PM
my research tells me that Omaha has like the cheapest water ever
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: sys on July 31, 2014, 11:46:03 PM
Don't most people with sprinkler systems have private wells?  I can't imagine running the sprinkler system off metered water.

Water is super cheap in some places.  Probably most of this blog's readership has access to super cheap water.

water is hella expensive here.  and everyone has an irrigation system.  lawns are pretty small by midwestern standards, so most people adopt a goodly section of sidewalk and street and water that too.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 01, 2014, 10:05:40 AM
I thought a well cost way more than 3k to drill

It does. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: michigancat on August 01, 2014, 10:10:07 AM
you guys should consider native species lawns/gardens
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Post by: CNS on August 01, 2014, 10:28:44 AM
Oh Man! It wasn't too long ago around KC that a bunch of landscape designers were pushing Buffalo Grass super hard to a bunch of biz's building new buildings.  Saying it never had to be cut and looked good and stuff.  Pffft.  It is a mother to get started, so they all spend a bunch of money on excess top soil, treatments, and water to get it started, and now that it is in place in a couple places, it just looks like really tall grass that needs to be cut super bad. 

PPl should look into grey water systems and rainwater collection when building a new house rather than drilling wells, imo.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 01, 2014, 10:32:17 AM
Ya look into it but when the money doesn't make sense just water your lawn like everybody else.

(Inside my balls I am a supporter CNS, but it needs to work in Cali before it can work in fly over country.  Probably our kids will do it that way.)
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: CNS on August 01, 2014, 10:37:08 AM
Ya look into it but when the money doesn't make sense just water your lawn like everybody else.

(Inside my balls I am a supporter CNS, but it needs to work in Cali before it can work in fly over country.  Probably our kids will do it that way.)

Well, if ppl are drilling wells in Wichita and those cost more than $3K, it would be a decent thing to look into, imo.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: 06wildcat on August 01, 2014, 10:54:27 AM
I thought a well cost way more than 3k to drill

3k will get you 30 or 40 feet deep, which will find water in a lot of places. That's a simple depth that 1 or 2 people can drill to easily. Beyond that, rigs get bigger, need more people to operate etc.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: dmartin on August 01, 2014, 10:55:24 AM
Like people in the city limits of Hutch be drilling wells?

We built a house two years ago on the northern edge of the city (still well in city limits). Private wells for watering (and sometimes for the whole house) is pretty common here.

Our well was around 1200 but the driller was a customer of ours, so there may have been a discount in there. Typical regular water bill for us is 80 a month, but that includes sewer and trash service.  Didn't have a well (or sprinkler system) at the old house, so the lawn was rarely watered off the meter, but I know just filling the above ground pool (don't have one of those anymore) could double the bill for a month.

Just looked it up and the sewer and water portion of the bill was 40. (three kids and a wife, including a teenage girl that loves long showers).
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 01, 2014, 10:59:49 AM
I thought a well cost way more than 3k to drill

3k will get you 30 or 40 feet deep, which will find water in a lot of places. That's a simple depth that 1 or 2 people can drill to easily. Beyond that, rigs get bigger, need more people to operate etc.

Does that include the pump, install, commissioning, etc?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on August 01, 2014, 11:43:19 AM
hell, my water bill will be $250-400 in July and August if I run it even half-assed to keep the grass from totally browning out.   We pay a 25% stormwater surcharge though because of the lake stormwater district.   :curse:
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Post by: steve dave on August 01, 2014, 11:45:06 AM
 :eek:
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Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on August 01, 2014, 11:49:33 AM
:eek:

yeah, we moved in in August 2010 and I watered in new grass in Sept.   I was all  :eek: :eek: :eek:    :Wha: :Wha: :Wha:    :curse: :curse:  :'bye cruel world:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: dmartin on August 01, 2014, 01:07:09 PM
hell, my water bill will be $250-400 in July and August if I run it even half-assed to keep the grass from totally browning out.   We pay a 25% stormwater surcharge though because of the lake stormwater district.   :curse:

You sir, need a well. 

We water twice a day.  I guess there is extra electricity costs, but probably cheaper than the water would be.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Spracne on August 01, 2014, 01:13:26 PM
Pretty sure dmartin is the Drilling King of Hutchinson, trying to peddle his wares ITT.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 01, 2014, 01:42:38 PM
"The Drilling King of Hutchinson, you say?"   :blah:

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.hark.com%2Fimages%2F000%2F555%2F642%2F555642%2Foriginal.jpg&hash=4ab7880b49d5b95c73cc2f6c5fab0c439a47d036)
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: michigancat on August 01, 2014, 02:44:59 PM
Oh Man! It wasn't too long ago around KC that a bunch of landscape designers were pushing Buffalo Grass super hard to a bunch of biz's building new buildings.  Saying it never had to be cut and looked good and stuff.  Pffft.  It is a mother to get started, so they all spend a bunch of money on excess top soil, treatments, and water to get it started, and now that it is in place in a couple places, it just looks like really tall grass that needs to be cut super bad. 


Probably looks better than a $400 water bill
Title: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on August 01, 2014, 03:03:24 PM
If you planted native plants in your yard in SW ks you'd have a nice patch of dirt and shitloads of those huge red ants
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: 06wildcat on August 01, 2014, 04:04:36 PM
I thought a well cost way more than 3k to drill

3k will get you 30 or 40 feet deep, which will find water in a lot of places. That's a simple depth that 1 or 2 people can drill to easily. Beyond that, rigs get bigger, need more people to operate etc.

Does that include the pump, install, commissioning, etc?

3k gets you a hole in the ground. If you're lucky, you get to spend even more money after that.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: michigancat on August 01, 2014, 04:06:09 PM
If you planted native plants in your yard in SW ks you'd have a nice patch of dirt and shitloads of those huge red ants

yeah probably
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Tobias on August 01, 2014, 04:06:34 PM
coworker had a well put in when he had his house built like 10 years ago.  waters his lawn by hand.  i mean wtf?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: 06wildcat on August 01, 2014, 04:10:47 PM
coworker had a well put in when he had his house built like 10 years ago.  waters his lawn by hand.  i mean wtf?

Like manually moves a sprinkler around or sits there with the hose walking around the yard?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Tobias on August 01, 2014, 04:12:10 PM
coworker had a well put in when he had his house built like 10 years ago.  waters his lawn by hand.  i mean wtf?

Like manually moves a sprinkler around or sits there with the hose walking around the yard?

should've been clearer - drags a rainbird around
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on August 01, 2014, 04:52:42 PM
If you planted native plants in your yard in SW ks you'd have a nice patch of dirt and shitloads of those huge red ants

native huge red ants tho.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: star seed 7 on August 01, 2014, 04:56:30 PM
My junior high had a native grassland area (maybe 50 yards by 30 yards) next to the football field. Very classy
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Post by: michigancat on August 01, 2014, 05:15:25 PM
Do people in Meade give a crap if you have a red ant yard?
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Post by: XocolateThundarr on August 01, 2014, 06:25:47 PM
If you planted native plants in your yard in SW ks you'd have a nice patch of dirt and shitloads of those huge red ants

native huge red ants tho.
Ant farm
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on August 01, 2014, 06:28:49 PM

Do people in Meade give a crap if you have a red ant yard?

Probably the same percent that would care other places. Some are very judge'y.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Asteriskhead on August 01, 2014, 06:47:53 PM
My junior high had a native grassland area (maybe 50 yards by 30 yards) next to the football field. Very classy

Class periods out there with Mr. Linton (sp?) were awesome.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: star seed 7 on August 01, 2014, 06:49:25 PM
My junior high had a native grassland area (maybe 50 yards by 30 yards) next to the football field. Very classy

Class periods out there with Mr. Linton (sp?) were awesome.

Loomis?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Asteriskhead on August 01, 2014, 06:50:34 PM
My junior high had a native grassland area (maybe 50 yards by 30 yards) next to the football field. Very classy

Class periods out there with Mr. Linton (sp?) were awesome.

Loomis?

No. I did not get along with Loomis. The biology teacher with the snakes is who I'm talking about. He was there when my mother went to Logan, so I know he was there while you were.
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Post by: Tobias on August 01, 2014, 06:52:40 PM
lol metalhead
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Post by: Asteriskhead on August 01, 2014, 06:54:52 PM
lol metalhead

 :dunno:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: star seed 7 on August 01, 2014, 07:06:06 PM
I don't think I had him. It's also coming dangerously close to 20 years ago  :frown:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on August 21, 2014, 03:12:41 PM
guys, I'm going to need a snowblower. I have a three car driveway but it's not really long. also have just a normal non-corner lot amount of sidewalk. post suggestions ITT
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Post by: Emo EMAW on August 21, 2014, 03:56:46 PM
My only suggestion:  buy one now instead of when you have 6 inches of snow on your driveway.  Probably can find a deal this time of year.
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Post by: CNS on August 21, 2014, 04:04:52 PM
I bought an electric one last year.  It works great and is really light weight and doesn't require mixing gas or anything.  Would recommend an electric one.
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Post by: CNS on August 21, 2014, 04:06:01 PM
That said, I have a couple super old-balls neighbors who have the super big gas ones and they seem to really like them. 

As long as it works, you will be happy since you won't be shoveling.  Can't really go too wrong here.
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Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on August 21, 2014, 04:10:12 PM
hows the lawn looking steve? when was the last time you mowed?
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Post by: star seed 7 on August 21, 2014, 04:30:09 PM
Let the sun melt it
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Post by: pissclams on August 21, 2014, 04:52:31 PM
I'm thinking you're a self propelled two stage type of guy
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Post by: steve dave on August 21, 2014, 06:08:42 PM
hows the lawn looking steve? when was the last time you mowed?

Amazing. Sunday. Wow, I'm good at lawns. It's actually too long but I'm not going to mow it again until this Sunday because eff that it's super hot outside.
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Post by: Stevesie60 on August 21, 2014, 09:15:00 PM
My only suggestion:  buy one now instead of when you have 6 inches of snow on your driveway.  Probably can find a deal this time of year.

steve dave isn't interested in deals. That's what Dave Ramsey would do.
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Post by: steve dave on August 22, 2014, 06:17:29 AM
Oh I'm buying one now. But I'm also paying with a CC.
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Post by: Skipper44 on August 22, 2014, 10:13:59 AM
guys, I'm going to need a snowblower. I have a three car driveway but it's not really long. also have just a normal non-corner lot amount of sidewalk. post suggestions ITT
consider how far and what direction you have to move the snow.  Most of the cheap single stage ($400ish) are not going blow snow very far into any kind of wind and no snow blower can throw chowder into the wind when it really cold out.  I curse my crappy Craftsman single stage anytime we get over 2 inches because I can only move the snow to the West due my neighbor's drive way being right next to mine. What direction do the cold fronts generally come from that create snow storms here in America's heartland?  Thats right, the W or NW

If you are going to be in this house for a long time, just get a brand name 2 stage and be done with it.  Also, the 2 stage will be able to clear the 2 foot tall drift the plow truck left covering the end your driveway much faster.
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Post by: Boom Roasted on August 22, 2014, 10:39:36 AM
You love in Omaha. You NEED a two stage with a pretty big blade. Electric wouldn't make a dent in it. Husquavarna or cub cadet
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Post by: Dr Rick Daris on August 22, 2014, 11:14:57 AM
sounds like pretty solid advice from skipper and br here. what will sd do? factor all of this advice into his decision or go classic sd rogue on all of us?
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Post by: steve dave on August 22, 2014, 11:56:56 AM
thanks dudes. I'll get a two stage. do they make them with the rubber blade things so I don't have a small amount of snow left on the pavement? sdbro said that was the big downside to a two stage over a one stage but also suggested a 2 stage anyway.
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Post by: pissclams on August 22, 2014, 12:57:56 PM
i already covered this but
single stage blowers are stupid and meant for old balls people.  snow which requires a blower, requires a two stage blower.

also they're not going to chew up your driveway, seems weird to worry about that.  you control how far off the driveway the blade is, similar to the blade on your lawnmower and grass.
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Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on August 22, 2014, 01:12:21 PM
get a heated driveway
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Post by: AppleJack on August 22, 2014, 01:27:21 PM
I decided on a new standard 4'6" fence. Mushed the wife for a privacy fence.
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Post by: pissclams on August 22, 2014, 01:45:27 PM
get a heated driveway

this is actually a great suggestion but kind of cost prohibitive.

honestly you should really just get a reliable snow removal guy and pay him to make sure your crap is given priority and that you're not waiting a day after it snows for him to show up.

i'd guess  you would need him 4 times a year, much cheaper and easier than using a snow blower and storing the thing
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Post by: Fedor on August 22, 2014, 02:10:51 PM
get a heated driveway

this is actually a great suggestion but kind of cost prohibitive.

honestly you should really just get a reliable snow removal guy and pay him to make sure your crap is given priority and that you're not waiting a day after it snows for him to show up.

i'd guess  you would need him 4 times a year, much cheaper and easier than using a snow blower and storing the thing
Yes, agreed.  This whole thing just flies in the face of SD's Platonic gentlemanly uselessness shtick.
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Post by: Spracne on August 22, 2014, 02:37:39 PM
get a heated driveway

this is actually a great suggestion but kind of cost prohibitive.

honestly you should really just get a reliable snow removal guy and pay him to make sure your crap is given priority and that you're not waiting a day after it snows for him to show up.

i'd guess  you would need him 4 times a year, much cheaper and easier than using a snow blower and storing the thing
...Platonic gentlemanly uselessness..

Nice phrase, coach.
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Post by: Fedor on August 22, 2014, 02:43:49 PM
get a heated driveway

this is actually a great suggestion but kind of cost prohibitive.

honestly you should really just get a reliable snow removal guy and pay him to make sure your crap is given priority and that you're not waiting a day after it snows for him to show up.

i'd guess  you would need him 4 times a year, much cheaper and easier than using a snow blower and storing the thing
...Platonic gentlemanly uselessness..

Nice phrase, coach.
:thumbs:
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Post by: CNS on August 22, 2014, 03:36:57 PM
I have one with the rubber on the blades and it cleans everything off the drive.  I have used it in 11" snow and it does just fine.  I mean, certainly get something bigger if you want to, but I couldn't imagine spending 30min using the snow blower, only to then get the shovel out and scrape off the bottom 1/2" of crap over the entire drive, which is always the worst icy/refrozen crap there is when shoveling. 
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Post by: raquetcat on August 22, 2014, 03:47:28 PM
What is up with SD doing all this work himself now, are you trying to impress sd jr with your work ethic or what? As a former Omahaian that has personally removed snow from his Omaha driveway, I can tell you you want a monster 2 stage, get a really tall one that can handle 12-18" in one pass, you don't want to be going over your driveway twice. Also some headlights on the front would be nice, cause it gets dark early in the winter. Do they have any with heated handles? If so get that one
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Post by: CNS on August 22, 2014, 03:59:59 PM
What is up with SD doing all this work himself now, are you trying to impress sd jr with your work ethic or what? As a former Omahaian that has personally removed snow from his Omaha driveway, I can tell you you want a monster 2 stage, get a really tall one that can handle 12-18" in one pass, you don't want to be going over your driveway twice. Also some headlights on the front would be nice, cause it gets dark early in the winter. Do they have any with heated handles? If so get that one

SD, you should move to Hawaii and set up a work from home scenario.  Omaha sounds awful.
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Post by: slobber on August 22, 2014, 04:12:59 PM
My in-laws had a heated driveway.

Now they are dead!
:ohno:


Gonna win 'em all!
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Post by: Benja on August 22, 2014, 04:21:51 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsnowmelt.pro%2Fcontent%2Fuploads%2Fd4720fd6-2249-46c8-b24e2a0cf6afcc0a.jpg&hash=d45cea8399af3b6a3d47f9e5b2435f4c4c181b94)

Honestly, I did some research and heated driveways are going on my list of most elite things ever. I need one of these someday.

Really though, we can message board on our phones in the middle of nowhere, but people are still shoveling snow like goddamn cavemen? GTFOOH
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Post by: ChiComCat on August 22, 2014, 04:25:35 PM
Heated drive ways are worth it up in the mountains or some place really cold.  Probably not worth the money in Omaha or Manhattan
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Post by: 06wildcat on August 22, 2014, 04:34:12 PM
Heated drive ways are worth it up in the mountains or some place really cold.  Probably not worth the money in Omaha or Manhattan

Seems like it would be worth it if you're a one up'r
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Post by: CNS on August 22, 2014, 04:41:43 PM
I honestly don't know anything about the systems sold to do this, but if you turn them off/on in the winter, you are just making sure that you will have to replace your driveway much faster than you would if you bought a snow blower.  Maximizing your freeze/thaw cycles on concrete is the fastest way to make that concrete crack, spall, look like crap, and eventually fail much faster than it should.
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Post by: steve dave on August 22, 2014, 05:34:28 PM
CNS, tell me what exactly to buy because I trust the crap out of you
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Post by: steve dave on August 22, 2014, 05:34:49 PM
Also everyone else in this thread has been very helpful
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Post by: 06wildcat on August 22, 2014, 05:37:42 PM
I honestly don't know anything about the systems sold to do this, but if you turn them off/on in the winter, you are just making sure that you will have to replace your driveway much faster than you would if you bought a snow blower.  Maximizing your freeze/thaw cycles on concrete is the fastest way to make that concrete crack, spall, look like crap, and eventually fail much faster than it should.

A simple thermostat could be used to hold the slab slightly above freezing eliminating any freeze-thaw cycle.
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Post by: star seed 7 on August 22, 2014, 05:39:16 PM
I honestly don't know anything about the systems sold to do this, but if you turn them off/on in the winter, you are just making sure that you will have to replace your driveway much faster than you would if you bought a snow blower.  Maximizing your freeze/thaw cycles on concrete is the fastest way to make that concrete crack, spall, look like crap, and eventually fail much faster than it should.

A simple thermostat could be used to hold the slab slightly above freezing eliminating any freeze-thaw cycle.

That's a lot of money for a full winter
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Post by: 06wildcat on August 22, 2014, 05:56:44 PM
I honestly don't know anything about the systems sold to do this, but if you turn them off/on in the winter, you are just making sure that you will have to replace your driveway much faster than you would if you bought a snow blower.  Maximizing your freeze/thaw cycles on concrete is the fastest way to make that concrete crack, spall, look like crap, and eventually fail much faster than it should.

A simple thermostat could be used to hold the slab slightly above freezing eliminating any freeze-thaw cycle.

That's a lot of money for a full winter

You turn it off when it's dry. Sheesh
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Post by: CNS on August 22, 2014, 06:07:30 PM
CNS, tell me what exactly to buy because I trust the crap out of you

Real talk: mine is a super cheap plastic one off of woot.com and that is the extent of my personal experience other than my inlaws that doesn't touch the bottom half inch on the drive surface.  Mine works great and is most likely a piece of crap compared to most discussed here.  That said it has the rubber ends and does very well.  So to recap, super cheap and rubber ends and does a rockstar job on 11" snows.  You could probably be happy with pretty much anything but make sure it  doesn't leave the bottom layer.  I would burn my house down if I had to shovel and scrape after snow blowing.
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Post by: steve dave on August 22, 2014, 06:21:00 PM
TY
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Post by: star seed 7 on August 22, 2014, 06:40:57 PM
Buy a bobcat with snow blade attachment
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Post by: ednksu on August 22, 2014, 06:51:32 PM
I wonder if they are using geothermal pumps on these driveways.  That would slash costs.
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Post by: steve dave on August 22, 2014, 09:02:38 PM
my parents have heated sidewalk and entrance but not driveway. they acted like it wasn't that expensive. it's a small area though. I honestly didn't even consider it.
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Post by: steve dave on August 23, 2014, 12:52:26 PM
bought this one from a small engine place near me. they deliver it tomorrow so if it sucks let me know and I'll cancel the order.

http://www.cubcadet.com/equipment/cubcadet/snow-throwers/2X-524-SWE
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Post by: Tobias on August 23, 2014, 01:01:06 PM
cub cadet sounds adorable
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Post by: kim carnes on August 23, 2014, 01:02:30 PM
bought this one from a small engine place near me. they deliver it tomorrow so if it sucks let me know and I'll cancel the order.

http://www.cubcadet.com/equipment/cubcadet/snow-throwers/2X-524-SWE

that thing looks like it could blow snow for days
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Post by: steve dave on August 23, 2014, 01:04:02 PM
cub cadet sounds adorable

i know, and that was a factor. also boom roasted suggested them itt.
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Post by: star seed 7 on August 23, 2014, 01:05:23 PM
Quote
After a long search betwen craftsman and ariens I decided to go with cub cadet. The dealership was awesome and set up the machine. With my dumb luck I bought the machine the year my area only had a snow fall of 2 inches. The following year we had a decent snow storm of about a foot and a few inches. The 524swe failed me. It initially started and ran perfect. Then out of the blue the chute stopped working. As I pushed forward it would unlock and shift to blow snow in a different direction. I mentioned this to the dealer and now I need to drive it over to them. One "major" storm and the machine has glitches. I'm very disappointed with my purchase. Everything else about the snow blower seems to be well constructed, but at this point I can only hope it holds up.

 :ohno:
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Post by: slobber on August 23, 2014, 02:46:55 PM
How many and what kind of points did you get for buying that rough rider?


Gonna win 'em all!
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Post by: steve dave on August 23, 2014, 02:47:48 PM
~850 United Miles
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Post by: slobber on August 23, 2014, 03:17:21 PM
sd laughs at MSRP.
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Post by: Saulbadguy on August 31, 2014, 04:46:50 PM
How do I fix a mailbox post that is wobbly as crap? I have a bad feeling that it might tip over and then I won't get junk mail.

It's a wooden post that holds 2 mailboxes (neighbor and mine). I may try to hold out as long as I can and hope that my neighbor fixes it, but he is foreign (sorry for racist/bigoted post) so i'm not holding out hope.
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Post by: kim carnes on August 31, 2014, 04:53:32 PM
How do I fix a mailbox post that is wobbly as crap? I have a bad feeling that it might tip over and then I won't get junk mail.

It's a wooden post that holds 2 mailboxes (neighbor and mine). I may try to hold out as long as I can and hope that my neighbor fixes it, but he is foreign (sorry for racist/bigoted post) so i'm not holding out hope.

can't the mailman still put mail in it when it's tipped over?
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Post by: Saulbadguy on August 31, 2014, 04:54:46 PM
How do I fix a mailbox post that is wobbly as crap? I have a bad feeling that it might tip over and then I won't get junk mail.

It's a wooden post that holds 2 mailboxes (neighbor and mine). I may try to hold out as long as I can and hope that my neighbor fixes it, but he is foreign (sorry for racist/bigoted post) so i'm not holding out hope.

can't the mailman still put mail in it when it's tipped over?
That's possible, but i'm guessing since this is one of those mailmen that stay in their vehicle the entire time they deliver mail that they will get tired of getting out to do so.

I could probably arrange w/ them to just leave the mail in the yard?
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Post by: star seed 7 on August 31, 2014, 04:55:29 PM
Dig out around the post (3-4 inches out and  a foot or so down is probably enough), get a bag of quickcrete (like $3), dump in hole around post, dump some water on the dry mix and let it soak in
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Post by: ChiComCat on August 31, 2014, 05:13:38 PM
How do I fix a mailbox post that is wobbly as crap? I have a bad feeling that it might tip over and then I won't get junk mail.

It's a wooden post that holds 2 mailboxes (neighbor and mine). I may try to hold out as long as I can and hope that my neighbor fixes it, but he is foreign (sorry for racist/bigoted post) so i'm not holding out hope.

can't the mailman still put mail in it when it's tipped over?
That's possible, but i'm guessing since this is one of those mailmen that stay in their vehicle the entire time they deliver mail that they will get tired of getting out to do so.

I could probably arrange w/ them to just leave the mail in the yard?

Depends.  Is the mailman also foreign?
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Post by: Saulbadguy on August 31, 2014, 05:15:30 PM
How do I fix a mailbox post that is wobbly as crap? I have a bad feeling that it might tip over and then I won't get junk mail.

It's a wooden post that holds 2 mailboxes (neighbor and mine). I may try to hold out as long as I can and hope that my neighbor fixes it, but he is foreign (sorry for racist/bigoted post) so i'm not holding out hope.

can't the mailman still put mail in it when it's tipped over?
That's possible, but i'm guessing since this is one of those mailmen that stay in their vehicle the entire time they deliver mail that they will get tired of getting out to do so.

I could probably arrange w/ them to just leave the mail in the yard?

Depends.  Is the mailman also foreign?
I don't think so.
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Post by: ChiComCat on August 31, 2014, 05:37:59 PM
How do I fix a mailbox post that is wobbly as crap? I have a bad feeling that it might tip over and then I won't get junk mail.

It's a wooden post that holds 2 mailboxes (neighbor and mine). I may try to hold out as long as I can and hope that my neighbor fixes it, but he is foreign (sorry for racist/bigoted post) so i'm not holding out hope.

can't the mailman still put mail in it when it's tipped over?
That's possible, but i'm guessing since this is one of those mailmen that stay in their vehicle the entire time they deliver mail that they will get tired of getting out to do so.

I could probably arrange w/ them to just leave the mail in the yard?

Depends.  Is the mailman also foreign?
I don't think so.

Ok, that doesn't help.  You can probably work out whatever kind of deal you want with the mail man, but you will have to tip him appropriately at Christmas.  Your best/cheapest option is the quickcrete.
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Post by: Saulbadguy on August 31, 2014, 05:50:01 PM
ok, w/ quikrete stuff, pour the crap in and add water, how long does it take to set? Like, how long do I need to stand there and hold the post upright before I can start spending my time on better things to do? (video games, boozing, etc)
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Post by: star seed 7 on August 31, 2014, 05:55:53 PM
the dry mix will probably hold it by itself
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Post by: sys on August 31, 2014, 06:30:09 PM
just pile rocks around it.
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Post by: Saulbadguy on August 31, 2014, 06:32:14 PM
just pile rocks around it.
That's a good idea but we have a HOA who won't take care of broken mailbox posts but won't allow you to do that. (nazis)
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Post by: sys on August 31, 2014, 06:37:01 PM
That's a good idea but we have a HOA who won't take care of broken mailbox posts but won't allow you to do that. (nazis)

my god, those bastards.
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Post by: chum1 on August 31, 2014, 06:49:50 PM
Those rough ridin' foreigners should have to pay for it. If they object, remind them that it's US mail, not rough ridin' foreigner mail.
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Post by: 06wildcat on August 31, 2014, 07:10:25 PM
No idea why Saul is still living in such a death trap.
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Post by: slobber on September 01, 2014, 04:08:36 PM
Dictionary.com the word 'tamp', and do that.


Gonna win 'em all!
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Post by: Emo EMAW on September 01, 2014, 08:19:10 PM

get a heated driveway

this is actually a great suggestion but kind of cost prohibitive.

honestly you should really just get a reliable snow removal guy and pay him to make sure your crap is given priority and that you're not waiting a day after it snows for him to show up.

i'd guess  you would need him 4 times a year, much cheaper and easier than using a snow blower and storing the thing

It actually doesn't have to be cost prohibitive if the rest of the house is geo and the incremental cost is financed for a new construction scenario.  The utility savings cash flow no problem at today's rates. 


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Post by: cDubya on September 02, 2014, 05:07:04 PM
Don't want to search through 59 pages so I'll just ask: why thermostat I'd you go with, SD? Honeywell?
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Post by: puniraptor on September 02, 2014, 05:07:31 PM
 :curse:
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Post by: star seed 7 on September 02, 2014, 05:13:37 PM
 :lol:
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Post by: IPA4Me on September 02, 2014, 05:16:03 PM
Heh.  :lol:
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Post by: steve dave on September 02, 2014, 06:47:10 PM

Don't want to search through 59 pages so I'll just ask: why thermostat I'd you go with, SD? Honeywell?

Nest. Like it a lot.
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Post by: Tobias on September 02, 2014, 07:05:13 PM
pm me for leaked photos of steve dave's house
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Post by: Saulbadguy on September 02, 2014, 08:29:03 PM
quikrete seemed to take care of the mailbox problem. Good suggesto.

Next topic. I need dirt to fill in some areas next to the house that have been eroded by water run off that i've neglected to fix. How do I get dirt to fill that in? Can you just buy bags of dirt somewhere? Can you get it delivered? TIA, i'll hang up and listen.
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Post by: star seed 7 on September 02, 2014, 08:30:11 PM
how much do you think you need.  like thickness and square footage
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Post by: CNS on September 02, 2014, 08:34:25 PM
You can buy top soil at walmart.  If you need more than several bags, get a pickup and go to a nursery and get bulk soil.  Also, get pulverized black dirt.   If not pulverized, it comes in huge chunks that are a mother rough rider to break up and spread.
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Post by: Saulbadguy on September 02, 2014, 08:37:10 PM
You can buy top soil at walmart.  If you need more than several bags, get a pickup and go to a nursery and get bulk soil.  Also, get pulverized black dirt.   If not pulverized, it comes in huge chunks that are a mother rough rider to break up and spread.
So I can just dump the dirt on the area it needs to be dumped and forget about it? Anything else I need to do?
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Post by: star seed 7 on September 02, 2014, 08:40:41 PM
meiers in topeka will deliver black dirt by the ton (nursery's will probably be better if you need smaller amounts).  1 ton will cover about 100sqft at 2" thick.  if you need less than a ton, then go with CNS advice
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Post by: Tobias on September 02, 2014, 08:41:33 PM
pro tip'rs always say you need more than you think, i think
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Post by: CNS on September 02, 2014, 08:42:09 PM
How deep of an area is It?  If it is 6" or less, you should be fi e doing notuch more than that.  I mean, compact it withnyour foot and o iirc le it just a small amt higher than you want it to eventuallt end up and it will settle.   If you want grass, seed it now (best time of year is right now). 
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Post by: Tobias on September 02, 2014, 08:42:15 PM
I need to do some grading around my foundation but am way too lazy
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Post by: CNS on September 02, 2014, 08:43:35 PM
If you have no clue how much you need, call the nursery and tell them your mesurements of where it is needed and they will calc for you.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on September 02, 2014, 08:44:08 PM
meiers in topeka will deliver black dirt by the ton (nursery's will probably be better if you need smaller amounts).  1 ton will cover about 100sqft at 2" thick.  if you need less than a ton, then go with CNS advice

be prepared for corncobs etc.    Skinner's also does topsoil delivery.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: The Big Train on September 02, 2014, 08:47:01 PM
anyone else speak pig latin, or is that just cDubya?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: star seed 7 on September 02, 2014, 08:49:39 PM
 :eek:

http://www.topekatopsoil.com/Prices2.pdf
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on September 02, 2014, 08:54:23 PM
:eek:

http://www.topekatopsoil.com/Prices2.pdf

oh yeah, forgot about them.  new place, drive by it every day.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: XocolateThundarr on September 02, 2014, 09:29:41 PM
Most sand pits will also have topsoil as well.  If they offer the stuff that has been through a shredder, buy that.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: CNS on September 02, 2014, 10:12:54 PM
 Check out Houzz app. Just found it.  Its basically pintest for everything related to houses.  Going to get nerd out on this thing with landscaping.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: SkinnyBenny on September 02, 2014, 11:18:08 PM
So can you upload pictures of your own houzz on that website and play around and junk?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on September 03, 2014, 06:22:53 AM

Check out Houzz app. Just found it.  Its basically pintest for everything related to houses.  Going to get nerd out on this thing with landscaping.

We basically just found stuff on here we liked and told our builder to do that
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: michigancat on September 03, 2014, 06:57:11 AM
seems like Saul's problem is the soil erosion
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: SkinnyBenny on September 03, 2014, 07:38:21 AM
New house has a dormer window setup but no actual window in it. What elite window design should we put up there?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: CNS on September 03, 2014, 07:40:19 AM
So can you upload pictures of your own houzz on that website and play around and junk?

Just getting started on it, but, it seems so.  There is an "advice" tab when you hit the search function.  Haven't spent much time there, but my initial impression is that ppl upload their shitty pics and I would assume the Houzz community would offer suggestions on how to make it less shitty.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: CNS on September 03, 2014, 07:41:07 AM
New house has a dormer window setup but no actual window in it. What elite window design should we put up there?
Some badass leaded glass would be awesome as long as it fit the rest of the house.  Does it need to be functional?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Saulbadguy on September 03, 2014, 08:05:37 AM
seems like Saul's problem is the soil erosion
My problem is I have no business owning a house. Renting is the way to go, michigancat!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: SkinnyBenny on September 03, 2014, 09:22:15 AM
New house has a dormer window setup but no actual window in it. What elite window design should we put up there?
Some badass leaded glass would be awesome as long as it fit the rest of the house.  Does it need to be functional?

Nope. Comes out of the attic.

Just Googled leaded glass. :love: Does anybody know a leaded glass guy who could custom make a window for my house showing Anthony Beane sinking two free throws during crunch time to take down a Billy Tubbs-led #1 OU Sooner team?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: CNS on September 03, 2014, 09:23:07 AM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia-cache-ak0.pinimg.com%2F236x%2F5a%2F2c%2Fed%2F5a2cedae693eabd997438c979028d960.jpg&hash=bf9c7e70b47e8ee3c8719a0615a0cc5a32817c4d)
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: CNS on September 03, 2014, 09:24:04 AM
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTonNlxs_O9c_g50hxMAIsnw5E515RvVMMz9WVDoBoeTEcPM9l44g)
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: CNS on September 03, 2014, 09:25:07 AM
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTD0AqtumsPO2frixsU0iGqYi8ZBii2rXldas3WX99r4ZFlMrTtYA)
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: CNS on September 03, 2014, 09:25:57 AM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.nola.com%2Fhome_impact%2Fphoto%2F08-street-gablejpg-9ef8250c83703aee.jpg&hash=c61f3668a79a9a36c178d6df09438752d961edd8)
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: CNS on September 03, 2014, 09:41:02 AM
seems like Saul's problem is the soil erosion
My problem is I have no business owning a house. Renting is the way to go, michigancat!

=IF(soil="low","how low?",If(soil="Super Low","call soil delivery guy",IF(soil="Kinda low","Walmart bags","Sell house!")))
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on September 03, 2014, 10:18:00 AM
seems like Saul's problem is the soil erosion
My problem is I have no business owning a house. Renting is the way to go, michigancat!

=IF(soil="low","how low?",If(soil="Super Low","call soil delivery guy",IF(soil="Kinda low","Walmart bags","Sell house!")))

but can you do it in Fortran??  Huh!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: The Big Train on September 03, 2014, 10:29:11 AM
no way that program would compile
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: CNS on September 03, 2014, 11:11:47 AM
no way that program would compile

You obviously never compiled a single organized program that actually meant a crap to you. All of that stuff will compile, you know why, actually you rough ridin' don't.  It was priceless.  Considering this post, you don't have a single compiling program to your name that is worth anything, to anyone.  I have a million programs from my programing days they are not worth crap monetarily.  To me, they are the world and more.  Don't bring this crap here and now.  There are things more valueable and important than compiling programs, you piece of crap.  This is a program that is more important than low soil, memories and passion.  Go ahead and say it won't compile, for anyone who has been apart of something special, like effective programming, this is if you were robbed of everything you own.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: XocolateThundarr on September 03, 2014, 11:40:34 AM
no way that program would compile

You obviously never compiled a single organized program that actually meant a crap to you. All of that stuff will compile, you know why, actually you rough ridin' don't.  It was priceless.  Considering this post, you don't have a single compiling program to your name that is worth anything, to anyone.  I have a million programs from my programing days they are not worth crap monetarily.  To me, they are the world and more.  Don't bring this crap here and now.  There are things more valueable and important than compiling programs, you piece of crap.  This is a program that is more important than low soil, memories and passion.  Go ahead and say it won't compile, for anyone who has been apart of something special, like effective programming, this is if you were robbed of everything you own.


:sdeek:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on September 03, 2014, 11:44:32 AM
Totally inappropriate, CNS. sheesh.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: CNS on September 03, 2014, 11:45:00 AM
no way that program would compile

You obviously never compiled a single organized program that actually meant a crap to you. All of that stuff will compile, you know why, actually you rough ridin' don't.  It was priceless.  Considering this post, you don't have a single compiling program to your name that is worth anything, to anyone.  I have a million programs from my programing days they are not worth crap monetarily.  To me, they are the world and more.  Don't bring this crap here and now.  There are things more valueable and important than compiling programs, you piece of crap.  This is a program that is more important than low soil, memories and passion.  Go ahead and say it won't compile, for anyone who has been apart of something special, like effective programming, this is if you were robbed of everything you own.


:sdeek:

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=7953.msg1197387#msg1197387 (http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=7953.msg1197387#msg1197387)
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Tobias on September 03, 2014, 11:45:26 AM
:sdeek:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: CNS on September 03, 2014, 11:48:34 AM
J/k, guys.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on September 03, 2014, 12:08:01 PM
cns, stick with your post and don't go explaining or apologizing for it.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: michigancat on September 03, 2014, 12:08:37 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: michigancat on September 03, 2014, 12:09:11 PM
Also, I kinda thought Big Train's post had a little wordplay. Who knows! :D
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on September 03, 2014, 12:13:14 PM
mowed ms tonya's lawn last week mostly just to impress steve dave.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on September 03, 2014, 12:13:50 PM
saul, ban katdaddy from this thread immediately
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: CNS on September 03, 2014, 12:15:13 PM
=IF(KATDADDY=BANNED,  :driving: , :fatty: )
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: The Big Train on September 03, 2014, 12:36:32 PM
 :D
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: slobber on September 03, 2014, 12:42:20 PM
no way that program would compile

You obviously never compiled a single organized program that actually meant a crap to you. All of that stuff will compile, you know why, actually you rough ridin' don't.  It was priceless.  Considering this post, you don't have a single compiling program to your name that is worth anything, to anyone.  I have a million programs from my programing days they are not worth crap monetarily.  To me, they are the world and more.  Don't bring this crap here and now.  There are things more valueable and important than compiling programs, you piece of crap.  This is a program that is more important than low soil, memories and passion.  Go ahead and say it won't compile, for anyone who has been apart of something special, like effective programming, this is if you were robbed of everything you own.
Surely I am luking this, but CNS, are you a divorced 30 something mother  of 3 who lives in a trailer park? Just an observation.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: slobber on September 03, 2014, 12:46:02 PM

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=7953.msg1197387#msg1197387 (http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=7953.msg1197387#msg1197387)
:ROFL:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: cDubya on September 03, 2014, 01:32:54 PM
anyone else speak pig latin, or is that just cDubya?

Haha. Wow. That comment autocorrected big time. :facepalm:

Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Skipper44 on September 03, 2014, 01:55:08 PM
=IF(KATDADDY=BANNED,  :driving: , :fatty: )
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwagesofwins.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F09%2Fnba-jam.jpg&hash=d1a3f896822eaa3dd34a95624b33f25d3d7a464f)
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: SkinnyBenny on September 03, 2014, 02:27:04 PM
Suggestos for what to get on the leaded glass in the attic? Pelican? Ty Zimmerman getting cut from the Saints?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: CNS on September 03, 2014, 02:33:23 PM
Suggestos for what to get on the leaded glass in the attic? Pelican? Ty Zimmerman getting cut from the Saints?

"In Case Of Katrina, Break Glass"
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: pissclams on September 03, 2014, 03:05:52 PM
this leaf blower is elite (http://www.troybilt.com/equipment/troybilt/leaf-blowers/tb2mb-gas-leaf-blower-tb2mb)

i want one.  130 mph. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: GoodForAnother on September 03, 2014, 07:27:25 PM
so our house is neat. bought neat Honda mower to mow neat yard with. there was a cockroach in the tub when we moved in to which everyone here said "welcome to Texas lol" and I said eff them and went scorched earth on the entire house and yard with the most powerful pesticides I could find. now I only see dead cockroaches. have some dead trees dumping leaves everywhere so got a guy coming out (I have a tree guy now). since move in have done DIY repairs on sprinkler system, two sinks, three door seals, installed a Nest and two new light fixtures. feels p good guys!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: SdK on September 04, 2014, 03:16:20 PM
Just mowed my yard and the neighbors yard. Shirtless. ;)
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Frankenklein on September 04, 2014, 03:45:27 PM
Just mowed my yard and the neighbors yard. Shirtless. ;)
should go in the stud thing thread
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: SkinnyBenny on September 08, 2014, 12:03:55 PM
Can't find the actual home buying thread through a cursory search of the terrible search function so I'll just drop this here:


:billdance: :bball: :emawkid:(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F2on2jq3zqfpd2i4rzs3oxtog9o4.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fopen-closed2.jpg&hash=2b39e309c9913c75b54edec4b288739e3fad64ef) :ksu: :driving: :weirdrobert: :bill: :Purple Koolaid:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Tobias on September 08, 2014, 12:12:42 PM
bedrooms have a/c?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: SkinnyBenny on September 08, 2014, 04:14:48 PM
bedrooms have a/c?

Every room has like the most elite air conditioning.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: SkinnyBenny on September 08, 2014, 06:37:24 PM
What washer/dryer should I buy? What should I look for or keep in mind while shopping?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: IPA4Me on September 12, 2014, 08:53:49 AM
High likelihood you have this detector installed.

http://www.dailyfinance.com/2014/09/11/kidde-smoke-alarms-carbon-monoxide-detectors-recalled/
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: SkinnyBenny on September 24, 2014, 11:36:53 PM
A man has nothing if he doesn't have his own plot of land to maintain to tend to. That is why I mowed my own lawn on Sunday for the first time.  :Woot:

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sherv.net%2Fcm%2Femoticons%2Fhousework%2Fmowing-the-lawn-smiley-emoticon.gif&hash=3cf410c0a96c1bbbb107e48b102bd3d2ed844b48) Feels p. good you guys!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: IPA4Me on September 25, 2014, 03:59:13 AM
What washer/dryer should I buy? What should I look for or keep in mind while shopping?
Did you wash your clothes yet?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on September 25, 2014, 07:18:05 AM
What washer/dryer should I buy? What should I look for or keep in mind while shopping?

I have no idea if this is a good one or not but we bought this set and like it a lot

http://www.whirlpool.com/laundry-1/laundry-2/laundry-pairs-3/-[WED96HEAU]-1022166/WED96HEAU/

EDIT: http://www.ajmadison.com/cgi-bin/ajmadison/WED96HEAU.html
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 25, 2014, 10:32:21 AM
What washer/dryer should I buy? What should I look for or keep in mind while shopping?

I have no idea if this is a good one or not but we bought this set and like it a lot

http://www.whirlpool.com/laundry-1/laundry-2/laundry-pairs-3/-[WED96HEAU]-1022166/WED96HEAU/

Nice link Mr. Fixit.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on September 25, 2014, 10:52:12 AM
What washer/dryer should I buy? What should I look for or keep in mind while shopping?

I have no idea if this is a good one or not but we bought this set and like it a lot

http://www.whirlpool.com/laundry-1/laundry-2/laundry-pairs-3/-[WED96HEAU]-1022166/WED96HEAU/

Nice link Mr. Fixit.

 :sdeek:

http://www.ajmadison.com/cgi-bin/ajmadison/WED96HEAU.html
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: SkinnyBenny on October 12, 2014, 01:29:46 PM
At Home Depot. Forgot to research what trimmer to buy before coming here. Tell me now. Probably takes about 15-20 minutes to trim around everything. I haven't really trimmed much in the last 10 years so all this lithium ion battery-powered stuff is :sdeek: to me. Probably will just go old school gas/oil mix or w/e. Help.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on October 12, 2014, 01:33:55 PM
Get a 40v lithium of whatever brand they have
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: SkinnyBenny on October 12, 2014, 02:06:53 PM
Does the batts die often?

What do you like about the lithium ion vs. gas?

How often will I have to replace this stupid battery? :curse:

Are you gE'ing?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on October 12, 2014, 02:12:04 PM
No, I bought a B&D 40v trimmer and blower and like it a lot. It's been discussed a ton in this thread. I like not having to mess with gas, worry about it starting, or it being loud and annoying.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: SkinnyBenny on October 12, 2014, 02:20:15 PM
Well that all sounds pretty good. Does it vibrate your hands a lot? Because I hate that. :ohno:

Also did you get a straight one or a curvy one?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on October 12, 2014, 02:24:16 PM
Mine is straight. It doesn't vibrate at all, because it's electric.
Title: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on October 12, 2014, 02:25:12 PM
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00I2F51SG?pc_redir=1412081902&robot_redir=1&tag=vglnkc7985-20#
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: SkinnyBenny on October 12, 2014, 02:34:13 PM
Sold, t-y. :D
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Institutional Control on April 14, 2015, 10:52:26 AM
Getting ready to build a house.

Steve Dave, what is your biggest regret that you would do differently if you started all over again?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: SkinnyBenny on April 14, 2015, 11:28:24 AM
He probably regrets recommending that edger/trimmer thing to me because the battery doesn't last long enough for my super elite lawn with all its graceful edges and corners. I have to do the front first, then plug in the battery while I mow, then do the back.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: OK_Cat on April 14, 2015, 11:28:37 AM
Low trimmer iq, but is there such a thing as a trimmer that doesn't have the stupid string? Because this is 2015 and having to stop and re-string is stupid.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: SkinnyBenny on April 14, 2015, 11:32:19 AM
Forgot to tell you guys I totally used my drill to install a bunch of cabinet knobs and drawer pulls. Took so GD long. Had over 50 to do, though. Still v. rewarding when it's all over. :excited:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: CNS on April 14, 2015, 11:34:10 AM
There are some trimmers that you can get a wheel-like attachment that have nylon blade-like things that swivel.   They cut grass but swivel back out of they way if they hit stuff with more resistance.   Have not used, but look promising.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on April 14, 2015, 11:35:49 AM
Low trimmer iq, but is there such a thing as a trimmer that doesn't have the stupid string? Because this is 2015 and having to stop and re-string is stupid.

you can get some models that use a replaceable plastic stick instead of a string coil.   They also make aftermarket fixed stick and blade add-ons, but I'm a little leery of those.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/ECHO-2-Cycle-21-2-cc-Curved-Shaft-Gas-Trimmer-GT-225/100662017?N=5yc1vZbx8iZ1z0xcq8

IMHO the fixed would be a bigger pain in the ass because I know how often my strings break off, seems like you'd be replacing them all the time instead of just bumping the head and continuing.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on April 14, 2015, 11:37:14 AM
There are some trimmers that you can get a wheel-like attachment that have nylon blade-like things that swivel.   They cut grass but swivel back out of they way if they hit stuff with more resistance.   Have not used, but look promising.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Ryobi-Bladed-Trimmer-Head-2-Pack-ACFHRL2/204589660?N=5yc1vZbxcg
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on April 14, 2015, 11:38:20 AM
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Rino-Tuff-3-Blade-Brush-Cutter-Head-for-Gas-Trimmer-16231/100671859?N=5yc1vZbxcg
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on April 14, 2015, 01:42:38 PM
Getting ready to build a house.

Steve Dave, what is your biggest regret that you would do differently if you started all over again?

third upstairs bathroom. we only have two. when we built I was like, we only need two, I'm not getting a third that will never get used. there is just me, mrs. dave, lil dave. why would we need three? I wish I had another one just for guests. we have a walkout we are going to have finished soon that will be the guest quarters with their own bath and whatnot but it's a pain in the ass for guests with all of lil dave's lil stuff in the second upstairs bathroom now.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: CNS on April 14, 2015, 02:15:45 PM
Getting ready to build a house.

Steve Dave, what is your biggest regret that you would do differently if you started all over again?

third upstairs bathroom. we only have two. when we built I was like, we only need two, I'm not getting a third that will never get used. there is just me, mrs. dave, lil dave. why would we need three? I wish I had another one just for guests. we have a walkout we are going to have finished soon that will be the guest quarters with their own bath and whatnot but it's a pain in the ass for guests with all of lil dave's lil stuff in the second upstairs bathroom now.

Your fam isn't in Omaha, though, right? 

I think this is probably mostly a distance thing.  For instance, most of my fam lives within a 20 min drive from me, and I haven't wished we had a guest bedroom once in 13 yrs of home ownership. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on April 14, 2015, 02:23:37 PM
Getting ready to build a house.

Steve Dave, what is your biggest regret that you would do differently if you started all over again?

third upstairs bathroom. we only have two. when we built I was like, we only need two, I'm not getting a third that will never get used. there is just me, mrs. dave, lil dave. why would we need three? I wish I had another one just for guests. we have a walkout we are going to have finished soon that will be the guest quarters with their own bath and whatnot but it's a pain in the ass for guests with all of lil dave's lil stuff in the second upstairs bathroom now.

Your fam isn't in Omaha, though, right? 

I think this is probably mostly a distance thing.  For instance, most of my fam lives within a 20 min drive from me, and I haven't wished we had a guest bedroom once in 13 yrs of home ownership.

SW KS and KC.
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Post by: Institutional Control on April 14, 2015, 02:26:58 PM
Getting ready to build a house.

Steve Dave, what is your biggest regret that you would do differently if you started all over again?

third upstairs bathroom. we only have two. when we built I was like, we only need two, I'm not getting a third that will never get used. there is just me, mrs. dave, lil dave. why would we need three? I wish I had another one just for guests. we have a walkout we are going to have finished soon that will be the guest quarters with their own bath and whatnot but it's a pain in the ass for guests with all of lil dave's lil stuff in the second upstairs bathroom now.

Well, I'm only having 2 bathrooms upstairs but the master bedroom is down stairs and has it's own bathroom.
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Post by: CNS on April 14, 2015, 02:30:59 PM
Getting ready to build a house.

Steve Dave, what is your biggest regret that you would do differently if you started all over again?

third upstairs bathroom. we only have two. when we built I was like, we only need two, I'm not getting a third that will never get used. there is just me, mrs. dave, lil dave. why would we need three? I wish I had another one just for guests. we have a walkout we are going to have finished soon that will be the guest quarters with their own bath and whatnot but it's a pain in the ass for guests with all of lil dave's lil stuff in the second upstairs bathroom now.

Well, I'm only having 2 bathrooms upstairs but the master bedroom is down stairs and has it's own bathroom.

Mine is like this and it is fantastic. 
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Post by: Institutional Control on April 14, 2015, 02:50:37 PM
My wife is really taking a hardline stance on a shower with a seat in it.  I don't understand why anyone would need to sit down in the shower.
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 14, 2015, 02:51:27 PM
My wife is really taking a hardline stance on a shower with a seat in it.  I don't understand why anyone would need to sit down in the shower.

Have you ever tried to prop your leg up on the wall while you shaved it?
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Post by: Institutional Control on April 14, 2015, 02:52:39 PM
My wife is really taking a hardline stance on a shower with a seat in it.  I don't understand why anyone would need to sit down in the shower.

Have you ever tried to prop your leg up on the wall while you shaved it?

Oh.. so it's not to sit down on?  That makes a little more sense.
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 14, 2015, 03:01:05 PM
My wife is really taking a hardline stance on a shower with a seat in it.  I don't understand why anyone would need to sit down in the shower.

Have you ever tried to prop your leg up on the wall while you shaved it?

Oh.. so it's not to sit down on?  That makes a little more sense.

Well you could either sit on it and shave your legs or put your foot on it to shave your legs. Either way, it avoids the need to hike your leg up to get your foot on the wall.

I am attaching a picture for you in case you don't understand how awkward it is.

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Post by: Institutional Control on April 14, 2015, 03:04:23 PM
You should have put a NSFW tag on that.
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Post by: The1BigWillie on April 14, 2015, 03:27:32 PM
My wife is really taking a hardline stance on a shower with a seat in it.  I don't understand why anyone would need to sit down in the shower.

Have you ever tried to prop your leg up on the wall while you shaved it?

Oh.. so it's not to sit down on?  That makes a little more sense.

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Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on April 14, 2015, 04:38:02 PM
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 14, 2015, 04:43:49 PM
 :lol: :lol: :lol:

But actually the drain is the other direction from the wall where I put my leg up.
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Post by: michigancat on April 14, 2015, 04:48:50 PM
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BEAT ME TO IT
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Post by: michigancat on April 14, 2015, 04:49:33 PM
I say 4 bathrooms upstairs
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Post by: Tobias on April 14, 2015, 04:51:05 PM

I say 4 bathrooms upstairs

maybe build an up-upstairs, too?
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Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 14, 2015, 05:12:54 PM
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BEAT ME TO IT

I'm dying. :lol:
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Post by: puniraptor on April 14, 2015, 05:17:14 PM
heavens
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Post by: slobber on April 14, 2015, 05:18:09 PM
Just when you think the big feet joke has been played out... :lol:


Gonna win 'em all!
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Post by: Institutional Control on April 20, 2015, 11:16:01 AM
Signed the papers yesterday.  Go to pick out tile, carpet, counter tops and colors later this week.
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Post by: SkinnyBenny on April 20, 2015, 11:24:32 AM
Signed the papers yesterday.  Go to pick out tile, carpet, counter tops and colors later this week.

Thoughts on countertops???
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Post by: Institutional Control on April 20, 2015, 11:28:10 AM
Signed the papers yesterday.  Go to pick out tile, carpet, counter tops and colors later this week.

Thoughts on countertops???

Granite are standard.  I guess it will just be a matter of the color.  Probably go with a light shade of brown.
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Post by: Institutional Control on April 20, 2015, 11:29:18 AM
The elevation we chose.

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Post by: SkinnyBenny on April 20, 2015, 11:42:05 AM
Oh man. What a stud attic you're going to have. I bet your kid is gonna hide so many of his uncle's Playboys up there. :love:
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Post by: Institutional Control on April 20, 2015, 11:45:14 AM
Oh man. What a stud attic you're going to have. I bet your kid is gonna hide so many of his uncle's Playboys up there. :love:
It's two story house.  The windows upstairs are on the sides.
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Post by: Institutional Control on April 20, 2015, 11:52:07 AM
First floor. 

The study on this plan will actually be a 4th bedroom and the dining room will be a study.  Half bath on 1st floor will become full bath.

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Post by: Institutional Control on April 20, 2015, 11:52:32 AM
Second floor.

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Post by: puniraptor on April 20, 2015, 01:42:08 PM
your enormous closet is awesome, but you have to walk like 26.2 miles to get there from the w/d

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Post by: yoEMAW on April 20, 2015, 01:55:13 PM
your enormous closet is awesome, but you have to walk like 26.2 miles to get there from the w/d

One strategically placed hole in the wall, and he could drop dirty laundry directly into the wash while standing in the closet.  :thumbs:
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Post by: sys on April 20, 2015, 02:03:29 PM
Thoughts on countertops???

Granite are standard.  I guess it will just be a matter of the color.  Probably go with a light shade of brown.

marble or caesarstone fake marble if you don't want to care for marble.
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 20, 2015, 02:25:35 PM
your enormous closet is awesome, but you have to walk like 26.2 miles to get there from the w/d

One strategically placed hole in the wall, and he could drop dirty laundry directly into the wash while standing in the closet.  :thumbs:

My mom's house has a built in little door from the master bathroom to the laundry and a laundry shoot thing from the other (kids) bathroom to the laundry room too.
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 20, 2015, 02:50:39 PM
Where you building that thing?
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Post by: Fedor on April 20, 2015, 03:14:14 PM
Let's talk about that two car garage...
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Post by: Institutional Control on April 20, 2015, 03:18:19 PM
Where you building that thing?

Prosper, TX
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Post by: Institutional Control on April 20, 2015, 03:20:24 PM
Let's talk about that two car garage...

To add a 3 car garage I was going to have to go with a bigger lot.  Was going to be an additional 30K.  Decided to go with a pool instead.
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Post by: Institutional Control on April 20, 2015, 03:27:32 PM
Thoughts on countertops???

Granite are standard.  I guess it will just be a matter of the color.  Probably go with a light shade of brown.

marble or caesarstone fake marble if you don't want to care for marble.

We're having marble in the bathrooms.  Is there special care required for marble?
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Post by: steve dave on April 20, 2015, 03:28:30 PM
marble isn't very durable. get quartz in the entire house. I have some granite in my butlers pantry and drop zone and I hate its guts.
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Post by: Skipper44 on April 20, 2015, 03:28:42 PM
Let's talk about that two car garage...

To add a 3 car garage I was going to have to go with a bigger lot.  Was going to be an additional 30K.  Decided to go with a pool instead.
Do you have kids?  I can't imagine having only a 2 car especially w/o a basement
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Post by: Skipper44 on April 20, 2015, 03:29:40 PM
marble isn't very durable. get quartz in the entire house. I have some granite in my butlers pantry and drop zone and I hate its guts.
will red wine stain quartz like it does granite?
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Post by: steve dave on April 20, 2015, 03:29:49 PM
no
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Post by: SkinnyBenny on April 20, 2015, 03:31:15 PM
Let's talk about that two car garage...

To add a 3 car garage I was going to have to go with a bigger lot.  Was going to be an additional 30K.  Decided to go with a pool instead.

You made the right choice. In New Orleans there are zero garages basically anywhere so anything seems like a luxury.
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Post by: Institutional Control on April 20, 2015, 03:31:30 PM
Let's talk about that two car garage...

To add a 3 car garage I was going to have to go with a bigger lot.  Was going to be an additional 30K.  Decided to go with a pool instead.
Do you have kids?  I can't imagine having only a 2 car especially w/o a basement

2 kids. I currently have a 2 car garage. No issues other then I can only fit 1 car in it. :)
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Post by: The1BigWillie on April 20, 2015, 03:54:54 PM
4 car garage.   :kstategrad:  No kids
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Post by: Spracne on April 20, 2015, 03:55:55 PM
Do you plan to live long in Prosper?
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Post by: The1BigWillie on April 20, 2015, 04:04:08 PM
Do you plan to live long in Prosper?

Unless I have kids. 
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Post by: sys on April 20, 2015, 05:23:54 PM
We're having marble in the bathrooms.  Is there special care required for marble?

sort of/not really.  depends on if you are uptight about etching.  not really much of an issue for bathrooms, more for kitchens.
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Post by: puniraptor on April 20, 2015, 05:26:27 PM
i think soapstone is rad. does anybody else think soapstone is pretty rad?
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Post by: sys on April 20, 2015, 05:31:24 PM
marble isn't very durable. get quartz in the entire house. I have some granite in my butlers pantry and drop zone and I hate its guts.

the new caesarstone fake marble (quartz) is pretty amazing looking.  i think it's pretty expensive, but it looks really good.

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Post by: wetwillie on April 20, 2015, 06:01:33 PM
 
Do you plano to live long in Prosper?

:eye:




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Post by: star seed 7 on April 20, 2015, 06:11:57 PM
Rusty is going to love the last 2 pages
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Post by: CNS on April 20, 2015, 06:12:33 PM
I love soap stone.  Don't have it, but it is def rad
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Post by: GoodForAnother on April 20, 2015, 09:19:51 PM
Prosper: it's just too goddamn far away
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Post by: Institutional Control on April 20, 2015, 09:49:12 PM

Prosper: it's just too goddamn far away
From where? I work in Plano.


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Post by: wetwillie on April 20, 2015, 09:50:02 PM
Are you neighbors with deion sanders now?
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Post by: GoodForAnother on April 20, 2015, 09:51:47 PM

Prosper: it's just too goddamn far away
From where? I work in Plano.


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The city

Collin and Denton counties are nice I just like the mid cities better because I can go both ways if you know what I mean
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Post by: star seed 7 on April 20, 2015, 09:54:31 PM
how far away will the closest whataburger be?
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Post by: GoodForAnother on April 20, 2015, 11:40:11 PM
how far away will the closest whataburger be?

like 10 feet. it's still Texas
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Post by: slobber on April 21, 2015, 02:33:25 AM

First floor. 

The study on this plan will actually be a 4th bedroom and the dining room will be a study.  Half bath on 1st floor will become full bath.
if you can widen that garage by a couple of feet and/or make it 2-3 feet deeper, you would not regret it. You also wouldn't have to come back to this thread and admit that I was right.


Gonna win 'em all!
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Post by: steve dave on April 21, 2015, 05:58:46 AM
Agree with Dobber
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Post by: Institutional Control on April 21, 2015, 07:44:19 AM
I agree with dobber too but my lot size will not allow for my garage to be any wider.  I have a lot of ways to make more room in the new garage that I didn't in the old one.  For instance, new garage has 10' ceilings and my current garage has 8'. I can build hanging shelves to put things up and out of the way.  Also, I'll have a bigger and more easily accessible attic to store some stuff that I currently have in my garage.
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Post by: steve dave on April 21, 2015, 07:46:52 AM
what about, like, cars?
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Post by: Institutional Control on April 21, 2015, 07:52:18 AM
With the hanging shelves, should be able to get both cars in.  I only get 1 car in my current garage.
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Post by: SkinnyBenny on April 21, 2015, 08:06:06 AM
You guys should try having no garages at all, anywhere within a ten-mile radius. It sucks. :gocho:
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Post by: Skipper44 on April 21, 2015, 08:10:11 AM
So where do keep the mower? Shed?
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Post by: Institutional Control on April 21, 2015, 08:12:49 AM
So where do keep the mower? Shed?

I don't own a mower.
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Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on April 21, 2015, 11:52:11 AM
I would definitely blow out the garage wall and at least get oversized+ since 3 car won't fit.
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Post by: GoodForAnother on April 21, 2015, 09:09:58 PM
since lame ass Texas doesn't have basements all your crap goes in the garage. if I were building new I would go 3 car or oversized just because that's where all your crap goes that normal people put in their basements.
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Post by: star seed 7 on April 21, 2015, 09:10:36 PM
just get rid of you, you don't need it
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Post by: GoodForAnother on April 21, 2015, 10:22:12 PM
just get rid of you

pretty harsh
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Post by: star seed 7 on April 21, 2015, 10:30:41 PM
still works i guess
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Post by: Asteriskhead on April 21, 2015, 10:36:44 PM
it's just stuff.
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Post by: SkinnyBenny on April 23, 2015, 03:17:01 PM
So where do keep the mower? Shed?

ya it's turrible. who would ever build a city and not leave room for garages? :flush:
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Post by: Institutional Control on May 04, 2015, 09:30:22 AM
So, picked out colors, hardwoods, carpet and stuff like that this weekend.  I couldn't believe all the things there were to choose from. The first time I have put any thought in the color of grout.    I let my wife have her way on most things but I held strong to my love of austin stone and didn't budge on the stone for the front of the house.
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Post by: mocat on May 04, 2015, 10:21:32 AM
good grief skinben, it's just not that interesting of an angle
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Post by: star seed 7 on May 04, 2015, 12:27:09 PM
good grief skinben, it's just not that interesting of an angle

He grew up in Johnson County or something, it's quite the change for sure
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Post by: SkinnyBenny on May 04, 2015, 01:06:14 PM
good grief skinben, it's just not that interesting of an angle

He grew up in Johnson County or something, it's quite the change for sure

Confirmed Johnson County'r here.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Institutional Control on May 04, 2015, 03:06:06 PM
So, the taxes on the new house are going to 2.6%. Am I crazy or does that seem high?
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Post by: puniraptor on May 04, 2015, 03:08:39 PM
So, the taxes on the new house are going to 2.6%. Am I crazy or does that seem high?

including specials? seems low honestly
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Post by: Institutional Control on May 04, 2015, 03:23:53 PM
So, the taxes on the new house are going to 2.6%. Am I crazy or does that seem high?

including specials? seems low honestly

That's  state, county, water district and school district.
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Post by: dmartin on May 05, 2015, 09:05:53 AM
So, the taxes on the new house are going to 2.6%. Am I crazy or does that seem high?

including specials? seems low honestly

That's  state, county, water district and school district.

2.6% would save me 1000 a year on taxes. I'd take it.
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Post by: steve dave on May 05, 2015, 09:24:04 AM
mine's 2.7
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Post by: sys on May 05, 2015, 10:57:16 AM
1.1something.   :gocho:
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Post by: Tobias on May 05, 2015, 10:57:54 AM
1.5
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Post by: CNS on May 05, 2015, 10:59:10 AM
MM, get one of the new Tesla battery thingys in your new house.  Report back in like a year.
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Post by: GoodForAnother on May 06, 2015, 09:12:18 AM
huh. people always whine about Texas property tax and mine is only 2.5%. lol at states that tax stuff.
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Post by: steve dave on May 06, 2015, 09:13:45 AM
people here claim NE has some of the worst property taxes in the country. I always wondered if that was accurate or just classic midwestern complaining.
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Post by: steve dave on May 06, 2015, 09:15:47 AM
apparently true

5. Nebraska

• Taxes as percentage of home value: 1.70%

• Median home value: $123,300

• Rank based on percentage of income: 14

Despite a comparatively low median home value of $123,300, Nebraska has the fifth highest property taxes in the U.S. Nebraska's figure for median property taxes paid on homes is a relatively modest $2,164, bringing the state in at only No. 17 for this measurement. Recently, Nebraska farmers have called on the state legislature to lower property taxes because they hold so much of the burden. Clay County and Grant County have the highest property taxes in the state.
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Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on May 06, 2015, 02:13:18 PM
1.58%
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Post by: GoodForAnother on May 10, 2015, 04:24:25 PM
TX technically 3rd on that list but when you consider no state income tax it isn't so bad
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Post by: IPA4Me on May 25, 2015, 04:25:24 PM
He probably regrets recommending that edger/trimmer thing to me because the battery doesn't last long enough for my super elite lawn with all its graceful edges and corners. I have to do the front first, then plug in the battery while I mow, then do the back.
How big is your lot? I'm in the market for an electric trimmer. I'm really sick of getting a tuneup every year on the little bastard.
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Post by: Institutional Control on May 26, 2015, 09:37:21 AM
House is under way.
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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: XocolateThundarr on May 26, 2015, 10:06:37 AM
He probably regrets recommending that edger/trimmer thing to me because the battery doesn't last long enough for my super elite lawn with all its graceful edges and corners. I have to do the front first, then plug in the battery while I mow, then do the back.
How big is your lot? I'm in the market for an electric trimmer. I'm really sick of getting a tuneup every year on the little bastard.

Buy the hedge trimmer and you will get a second battery and charger.  Boom....problem solved.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: puniraptor on May 26, 2015, 10:08:39 AM
i have a 1/3 acre pentagram double corner lot and with a driveway a sidewalk and 2/3 a fence and i can do about half of it on a charge

i'm closer to complaining about how fast it goes through string. very fast.
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Post by: mocat on May 26, 2015, 10:08:50 AM
House is under way.
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you can't see the forest or the trees
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: IPA4Me on May 26, 2015, 10:09:40 AM
Genius Thundarr. Pure genius.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Institutional Control on May 29, 2015, 10:44:29 AM
So, sold my current house last weekend.  9 offers in 48 hours after 30 showings.

But the best part is, the buyer is going to lease us back the house until our new house is done. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Skipper44 on May 29, 2015, 11:15:03 AM
So, sold my current house last weekend.  9 offers in 48 hours after 30 showings.

But the best part is, the buyer is going to lease us back the house until our new house is done.
is the lease less or more than your current payment?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Institutional Control on May 29, 2015, 11:40:02 AM
So, sold my current house last weekend.  9 offers in 48 hours after 30 showings.

But the best part is, the buyer is going to lease us back the house until our new house is done.
is the lease less or more than your current payment?

Slightly more but much less than getting an apartment.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 29, 2015, 11:43:53 AM
i have a 1/3 acre pentagram double corner lot and with a driveway a sidewalk and 2/3 a fence and i can do about half of it on a charge

i'm closer to complaining about how fast it goes through string. very fast.

Huh. Which one do you have? I have a Ryobi with a Li-Ion battery and it has plenty of juice to do all my trimming. I have almost a 1/2 acre lot with fenced back yard and plenty of landscape edging. But I don't use the trimmer to edge my driveway and street. Are you doing that? That might also explain why you're going through string so fast. I use a Black & Decker corded edger I picked up on Craigslist for $20. It works awesome and I really don't mind the 150' of extension cord.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: puniraptor on May 29, 2015, 11:47:38 AM
The 40v SD B&D. Yeah I'm edging the curb, driveway and 200+ feet of sidewalk. I also may have poor string trimmer skills/strategies.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 29, 2015, 11:50:02 AM
The 40v SD B&D. Yeah I'm edging the curb, driveway and 200+ feet of sidewalk. I also may have poor string trimmer skills/strategies.

Yeah, that's the problem. I never figured out how to use a trimmer to edge pavement without gobbling up the string.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Tobias on May 29, 2015, 11:52:46 AM
i trim-edge the crap out my driveway/curb and i'm still on the original string that came with my B&D trimmer when i bought it like 3 years ago :dunno:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Institutional Control on May 29, 2015, 11:56:23 AM
Guys, I'll ask my landscaper what kind of trimmer he uses.  It does a great job on my yard. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: mocat on May 29, 2015, 11:57:32 AM
the rate at which string is destroyed is 100% dependent on the skill of the person doing the stringing
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on May 29, 2015, 12:38:57 PM
The 40v SD B&D. Yeah I'm edging the curb, driveway and 200+ feet of sidewalk. I also may have poor string trimmer skills/strategies.

on year two of that thing it still goes my whole yard as well as swapping the battery to the blower to blow off the grass on one charge. But, I don't have a corner, just a normal sidewalk, driveway front. Also no fence in back. I do edge every other mow though. The weird thing about the string is the original string lasted the entirety of last summer. then this year I'm already on my second replacement string. Like, the original string must have been made out of space metal or something while this replacement string is made out of like some incredibly soft materiel.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 29, 2015, 12:46:45 PM
I don't edge and I am confident my neighbors secretly hate me for that
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 29, 2015, 12:54:33 PM
I don't edge and I am confident my neighbors secretly hate me for that

You gotta edge, man. It's awesome. The edges my lawn are cleaner than a Kurt Russell crew cut.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: star seed 7 on May 29, 2015, 01:02:08 PM
Edging is for suckers, so is trimming
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: CNS on May 29, 2015, 02:16:47 PM
Edging is like Valentines day.  No one really needs it but it is commercialized AF to sell ppl more crap they don't need. 

Big Plastic String has you guys strung.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 29, 2015, 02:34:50 PM
My Lawn:

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Your crappy non-edged lawn:

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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Spracne on May 29, 2015, 02:35:58 PM
I really enjoy edging.  It's quite the thrill.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: puniraptor on May 29, 2015, 02:37:55 PM
i cant see the first picture but i can only think of a few dozen things cooler than snake plisken and they were all in fury road
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Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on May 29, 2015, 02:53:15 PM
My Lawn:

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Your crappy non-edged lawn:

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the awesomeness of this post is underrated.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 29, 2015, 03:08:08 PM
Dammit - goEMAW must have overloaded the server of whatever chump site I got that pic from. Click here for more Kurt Russell Crew Cut / My Lawn awesomeness. https://www.google.com/search?site=&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1280&bih=890&q=kurt+russell+stargate&oq=kurt+russell+stargate&gs_l=img.3..0l2j0i8i30.6745.11008.0.13034.21.16.0.5.5.0.138.967.15j1.16.0....0...1ac.1.64.img..0.21.993.xycLCjukkaI (https://www.google.com/search?site=&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1280&bih=890&q=kurt+russell+stargate&oq=kurt+russell+stargate&gs_l=img.3..0l2j0i8i30.6745.11008.0.13034.21.16.0.5.5.0.138.967.15j1.16.0....0...1ac.1.64.img..0.21.993.xycLCjukkaI)
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: star seed 7 on May 29, 2015, 03:57:32 PM
I really enjoy edging.  It's quite the thrill.

Takes so long tho
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: The1BigWillie on May 29, 2015, 04:01:26 PM
He probably regrets recommending that edger/trimmer thing to me because the battery doesn't last long enough for my super elite lawn with all its graceful edges and corners. I have to do the front first, then plug in the battery while I mow, then do the back.
How big is your lot? I'm in the market for an electric trimmer. I'm really sick of getting a tuneup every year on the little bastard.

Buy the hedge trimmer and you will get a second battery and charger.  Boom....problem solved.

My greenworks weedeater/edger arrived the other day.  More power than I had expected.  I love it.  Will be ordering greenworks mower, trimmer, and extendable limb saw thingy next week.  No gas for me this summer. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: DeoKat on May 29, 2015, 04:25:05 PM
House is under way.
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The area that is ideal for us because of our work commutes is pretty much all new construction anyway. We are in the fringe burbs/corn field zone.

no mature trees?   :frown:

tons actually. we are the home of arbor day sys. ARBOR DAY.


It just doesn't add up
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: puniraptor on May 29, 2015, 04:27:17 PM
i dont think known peice of crap Matthew (Matt) McKee of texas tech university and lubbock, tx lives in ak-sar-ben
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: mhkpasa on June 01, 2015, 04:30:07 PM
I really enjoy edging.  It's quite the thrill.

Sprac-daddy, :nono:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Institutional Control on June 02, 2015, 11:40:56 AM
Met with the builder yesterday.  Completion date is moved up a month.  They're pouring the foundation this week.  :runaway:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on June 02, 2015, 11:58:28 AM
House is under way.
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they forgot to dig the basement  :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Institutional Control on July 27, 2015, 10:02:18 AM
Took forever but the foundation is finally poured.

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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on July 27, 2015, 10:14:04 AM
I know this horse has been beaten to death but I cannot wrap my head around how I would deal with a 2 car garage AND no basement. I could deal with one or the other (though not happily) but both seems unmanageable.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: slobber on July 27, 2015, 10:17:04 AM
It sucks. I didn't sign up for this crap. I do have a third floor and a nice sized attic, but I will never again buy a no 3rd stall/no basement house.


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: slobber on July 27, 2015, 10:18:41 AM
It sucks. I didn't sign up for this crap. I do have a third floor and a nice sized attic, but I will never again buy a no 3rd stall/no basement house.

(I don't care how big the house is or if you have a pool (sorry Batt BcKee), so you people that want to try to justify it just shut your mouth. I made a mistake and I am owning up to it.)
Gonna win 'em all!


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Institutional Control on July 27, 2015, 10:19:43 AM
A 3rd car garage would have been nice but I'll enjoy the pool much more.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: AbeFroman on July 27, 2015, 11:06:16 AM
I know this horse has been beaten to death but I cannot wrap my head around how I would deal with a 2 car garage AND no basement. I could deal with one or the other (though not happily) but both seems unmanageable.

No basement would be near impossible to deal with. Actually, I probably couldn't. 2 car garage would be kinda meh but way more manageable
Title: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on July 27, 2015, 11:53:12 AM
The amount of scooters, ride on things, wagons, strollers, etc. lil sd has in his lineup has me wishing I'd gotten a 4 car actually.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: sys on July 27, 2015, 11:56:19 AM
he probably doesn't have kids.  i've got a 2 car garage and no basement and we still only use like a quarter of the house. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Institutional Control on July 27, 2015, 11:59:26 AM
You guys sound like pack rats.

j/k.  I"ll probably only park one car in the garage.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: ChiComCat on July 27, 2015, 11:59:51 AM
I feel like you could mitigate the garage limitations with a shed.  Can't really get around having a basement by digging a hole in the backyard though.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: sys on July 27, 2015, 12:03:18 PM
Can't really get around having a basement by digging a hole in the backyard though.

sure you could.  it wasn't that long ago that most houses in this country had cellars.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Institutional Control on July 27, 2015, 12:07:24 PM
I'm really rethinking this decision, guys.  What if 2800 square feet isn't enough room?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: slobber on July 27, 2015, 12:08:41 PM
It won't be. That's okay. Additions and new homes are great.


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: slobber on July 27, 2015, 12:09:25 PM
And to everyone on planet earth...park your damn cars in the garage!


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: SkinnyBenny on July 27, 2015, 12:14:40 PM
you guys would never make it in new orleans where there are literally no garages AND no basements. I'm hardcore.






















































































(it sucks ass)
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: star seed 7 on July 27, 2015, 12:21:49 PM
You people have too much stuff
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Post by: IPA4Me on July 27, 2015, 12:28:59 PM
I'm really rethinking this decision, guys.  What if 2800 square feet isn't enough room?
It's not. Family of four. 3200 sf finished. Looking at finishing the bonus over the garage for another 600+ sf.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on July 27, 2015, 12:33:36 PM

You people have too much stuff

I barely have anything. I hate having lots of things. lil sd loves things though. It's annoying as crap.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Tobias on July 27, 2015, 12:35:55 PM
my 2br house is too big
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: star seed 7 on July 27, 2015, 12:39:50 PM
my 2br house is too big

Same
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: XocolateThundarr on July 27, 2015, 01:13:49 PM
You guys sound like pack rats.

j/k.  I"ll probably only park one car in the garage.

Make sure your garage is deep enough to park a crew cab pickup or suburban in it. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on July 27, 2015, 01:19:01 PM
You guys sound like pack rats.

j/k.  I"ll probably only park one car in the garage.

Make sure your garage is deep enough to park a crew cab pickup or suburban in it.

And make sure the stairs jutting out to get into your house don't take up too much of the depth to get a car in that side.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: dmartin on July 27, 2015, 01:37:01 PM
You guys sound like pack rats.

j/k.  I"ll probably only park one car in the garage.

Make sure your garage is deep enough to park a crew cab pickup or suburban in it.

This.  Really sucks to have to limit your vehicle purchases based on what fits in your garage.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: WonderMeal on July 27, 2015, 09:03:14 PM
@=Mods?=, please merge the last couple of pages of this thread with the "Thing White Midwesterners Love" thread.

I'm really rethinking this decision, guys.  What if 2800 square feet isn't enough room?
It's not. Family of four. 3200 sf finished. Looking at finishing the bonus over the garage for another 600+ sf.

Doesn't @Rusty have a family of four in SF? 
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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: puniraptor on August 04, 2015, 02:05:10 PM
what a desolate wasteland
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Post by: WillieWatanabe on August 04, 2015, 02:08:04 PM
Makes BSFS look like a rainforest.
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Post by: puniraptor on August 04, 2015, 02:09:14 PM
is that with a FURY ROAD #filter applied?
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Post by: Institutional Control on August 04, 2015, 02:11:40 PM
is that with a FURY ROAD #filter applied?

I don't think I applied a filter to it.  That's just your average 100 degree Texas day filter.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: michigancat on August 04, 2015, 03:58:10 PM
@=Mods?=, please merge the last couple of pages of this thread with the "Thing White Midwesterners Love" thread.

I'm really rethinking this decision, guys.  What if 2800 square feet isn't enough room?
It's not. Family of four. 3200 sf finished. Looking at finishing the bonus over the garage for another 600+ sf.

Doesn't @Rusty have a family of four in SF? 

I live in the east bay and I think I have like 1400sq ft. I have like this big awkward space in the living room where no one goes. I'm also a better person than all of you, so there's that.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: star seed 7 on August 04, 2015, 04:08:17 PM
  :emawkid:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: IPA4Me on August 04, 2015, 04:12:28 PM
1400 sf? Damn.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: michigancat on August 04, 2015, 04:39:51 PM
my bedroom is also ridiculously large. just so much dead space.
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Post by: star seed 7 on August 04, 2015, 04:52:55 PM
I have like 600sf 2br house and it's giant
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: ChiComCat on August 04, 2015, 05:31:53 PM
my bedroom is also ridiculously large. just so much dead space.

This drives me nuts in a bunch of new houses.  I don't need a giant bedroom.  Bed/TV/closet/bathroom -> I'm good
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: IPA4Me on August 04, 2015, 08:20:59 PM
Interesting to see the different ways we all like to live. I like small vacation places but prefer larger daily living. Although, I'm sure we'll downsize in a few years when the kids are on their own.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: sys on August 04, 2015, 08:29:03 PM
i like a pretty good sized bedroom.  we have like 3.5 rooms in my house that we hardly use, they should have used those to make the bedroom and kitchen bigger.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on August 05, 2015, 07:29:41 AM
I hate houses separated into different rooms (other than bedrooms and bathrooms). every house I ever want to own is going to have a giant living, kitchen, dining, sitting, etc. space so everyone has to deal with everyone else 24/7/365 or they can just go to their rooms. WE'RE A rough ridin' FAMILY AND WE'RE GOING TO LIVE LIKE ONE! also it would be impossible to keep track of lil sd if he had multiple smaller areas to roam around in.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: IPA4Me on August 05, 2015, 09:38:21 AM
That's our house. Open day area, kids' rooms on one side and master suite on the other.

Older kids do migrate to their rooms more frequently.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: SkinnyBenny on August 05, 2015, 11:08:31 AM
I hate houses separated into different rooms (other than bedrooms and bathrooms). every house I ever want to own is going to have a giant living, kitchen, dining, sitting, etc. space so everyone has to deal with everyone else 24/7/365 or they can just go to their rooms. WE'RE A rough ridin' FAMILY AND WE'RE GOING TO LIVE LIKE ONE! also it would be impossible to keep track of lil sd if he had multiple smaller areas to roam around in.


Open floor plans are all the rage right now
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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: The Big Train on August 11, 2015, 09:52:17 PM
i know nothing about building houses, but is that thing supposed to be stuck in the roof on the right side?
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Post by: star seed 7 on August 11, 2015, 09:52:59 PM
yes
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Post by: CNS on August 11, 2015, 09:54:16 PM
Open floor plans are loud.  Kitchen and TV competing.   Ugh.

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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: puniraptor on August 11, 2015, 10:25:13 PM
Open floor plans are loud.  Kitchen and TV competing.   Ugh.

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thats why you leave the open floor tv for casual viewing and the basement tv for hardcore watch sessions
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Post by: SdK on August 12, 2015, 01:42:00 AM
Yeah. THAT'S WHY! HAHAHAHA
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 12, 2015, 08:05:38 AM
Open floor plans are loud.  Kitchen and TV competing.   Ugh.


Yes! I hate it when I am trying to watch something and Gooch is over there in the kitchen cooking my dinner and running the faucet, making a bunch of noise.
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Post by: Fedor on August 12, 2015, 09:22:36 AM
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A two car garage and no tornado straps? Good grief.
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Post by: XocolateThundarr on August 12, 2015, 09:23:43 AM
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A two car garage and no tornado straps? Good grief.

...and that silt fence is doing one hell of a job.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Institutional Control on August 12, 2015, 09:28:55 AM
What's a tornado strap?
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Post by: Institutional Control on August 12, 2015, 09:29:06 AM
(https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/11224254_10205736270504547_330206362545482670_n.jpg?oh=aec7f2f0efa9ae7fe0e3044ea140ae76&oe=567F332F)
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Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on August 12, 2015, 09:38:36 AM
What's a tornado strap?

one of a variety of metal fastener anchors that reinforce connections in wood framing.  They are commonly used at truss and plate joints, wall sill to foundation, and wall to wall.   The resist the uplift caused by high winds.


examples
https://www.google.com/search?q=simpson+truss+hold+down&safe=off&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAkQ_AUoA2oVChMI6LXWqeKjxwIVVBGSCh3pewQt&biw=1920&bih=1006
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Fedor on August 12, 2015, 09:43:47 AM
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A two car garage and no tornado straps? Good grief.

...and that silt fence is doing one hell of a job.
:lol:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 12, 2015, 10:21:13 AM
I hate houses separated into different rooms (other than bedrooms and bathrooms). every house I ever want to own is going to have a giant living, kitchen, dining, sitting, etc. space so everyone has to deal with everyone else 24/7/365 or they can just go to their rooms. WE'RE A rough ridin' FAMILY AND WE'RE GOING TO LIVE LIKE ONE! also it would be impossible to keep track of lil sd if he had multiple smaller areas to roam around in.


Open floor plans are all the rage right now

My house has both. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: The Big Train on August 12, 2015, 12:44:03 PM
(https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/11224254_10205736270504547_330206362545482670_n.jpg?oh=aec7f2f0efa9ae7fe0e3044ea140ae76&oe=567F332F)

with my keen eye that angle from the zenith of the roof to the horizon looks about -38o

which is about what you want
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: The1BigWillie on August 12, 2015, 01:21:05 PM
The neighbor has nice grass. 
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Post by: star seed 7 on August 12, 2015, 01:25:54 PM
How angry would people get if you planted a tree
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Post by: puniraptor on August 12, 2015, 01:26:34 PM
(https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/11224254_10205736270504547_330206362545482670_n.jpg?oh=aec7f2f0efa9ae7fe0e3044ea140ae76&oe=567F332F)

with my keen eye that angle from the zenith of the roof to the horizon looks about -38o

which is about what you want
My roof is 45 degrees and it sucks because I can't walk up there to fix anything
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Post by: puniraptor on August 12, 2015, 01:27:11 PM
I don't think you could walk on 38 tho either.
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Post by: The Big Train on August 12, 2015, 01:42:31 PM
38o is total walkable
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Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on August 12, 2015, 01:49:23 PM
i dont walk anything less than 34.5 degrees, personally.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Institutional Control on August 12, 2015, 03:40:25 PM
How angry would people get if you planted a tree
Two trees are mandated by the HOA.

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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: The Big Train on August 12, 2015, 03:46:30 PM
looks like you have a pretty relaxed HOA
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Post by: Institutional Control on August 12, 2015, 03:53:21 PM

looks like you have a pretty relaxed HOA

Generally they're pretty lax until your house is complete.

The HOA is still controlled by the builders and I hear they're hard asses.


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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 12, 2015, 05:06:43 PM
How many workers have pee'd in your basement?

all of them
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Post by: star seed 7 on August 12, 2015, 05:11:22 PM
No basement!
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Post by: SkinnyBenny on August 12, 2015, 10:40:16 PM
Batt BcKee don't listen to the haters. Your house will be great, bud.
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Post by: Tobias on August 12, 2015, 10:51:43 PM
GBR
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Post by: Institutional Control on August 24, 2015, 08:31:16 AM
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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 24, 2015, 10:53:30 AM
Where is the other garage?
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Post by: The Big Train on August 24, 2015, 10:57:56 AM
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FYH(fixed your house)
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Institutional Control on August 25, 2015, 08:14:39 AM
I know everyone here is worried about my storage space since I won't have a basement or a 3rd garage.  I wanted to put everyone's mind at ease.  Everything highlighted in yellow below is attic space that will be more than adequate storage.

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Post by: Dr Rick Daris on August 25, 2015, 08:20:11 AM
yeah you're never going to go in that attic. my only issue with the house is the two car garage with two separate doors and wood in the middle or whatever. that looks like a gigantic pita. maneuvering cars and bikes and crap around that wood in in the middle for the next twenty years? no thanks.
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Post by: Institutional Control on August 25, 2015, 08:22:27 AM
Oh, I'll be going in that attic.
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Post by: michigancat on August 25, 2015, 08:24:37 AM
(https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/11224254_10205736270504547_330206362545482670_n.jpg?oh=aec7f2f0efa9ae7fe0e3044ea140ae76&oe=567F332F)
Too small. :frown:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on August 25, 2015, 08:39:12 AM
Oh, I'll be going in that attic.

seriously though get rid of the foot of wood in between the two little garage doors and just get one big garage door. that small section in between is going to be chinese water torture for the next twenty years. fix it now.
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Post by: Institutional Control on August 25, 2015, 08:41:31 AM
Oh, I'll be going in that attic.

seriously though get rid of the foot of wood in between the two little garage doors and just get one big garage door. that small section in between is going to be chinese water torture for the next twenty years. fix it now.

I doubt that can be done at this point.
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Post by: Dr Rick Daris on August 25, 2015, 08:43:17 AM
Oh, I'll be going in that attic.

seriously though get rid of the foot of wood in between the two little garage doors and just get one big garage door. that small section in between is going to be chinese water torture for the next twenty years. fix it now.

I doubt that can be done at this point.

now is the time to find out though
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Post by: michigancat on August 25, 2015, 08:44:23 AM
Matt, what will you be storing in your attic?
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Post by: Institutional Control on August 25, 2015, 08:48:15 AM
Matt, what will you be storing in your attic?

Christmas decorations.
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Post by: michigancat on August 25, 2015, 08:48:56 AM
Matt, what will you be storing in your attic?

Christmas decorations.
He'll be going to the attic, Rick.
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Post by: Institutional Control on August 25, 2015, 08:51:02 AM
I'll probably also keep coolers, lawn chairs and pool supplies up there.
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Post by: Dr Rick Daris on August 25, 2015, 09:16:57 AM
this is great. we only have old hannukah decorations in our attic.


@yla
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 25, 2015, 09:18:16 AM
Oh, I'll be going in that attic.

seriously though get rid of the foot of wood in between the two little garage doors and just get one big garage door. that small section in between is going to be chinese water torture for the next twenty years. fix it now.

That little area between the doors keeps the two cars from parking too close to each other inside of the garage.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on August 25, 2015, 09:20:54 AM
Oh, I'll be going in that attic.

seriously though get rid of the foot of wood in between the two little garage doors and just get one big garage door. that small section in between is going to be chinese water torture for the next twenty years. fix it now.

That little area between the doors keeps the two cars from parking too close to each other inside of the garage.

actually no. humans driving cars keep that from happening.
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Post by: star seed 7 on August 25, 2015, 09:23:26 AM
Some humans are not good drivers tho
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Post by: Asteriskhead on August 25, 2015, 09:40:50 AM
Some humans are not good drivers tho

you could paint lines on the floor or hang tennis balls from strings like my grandpa did.
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Post by: Asteriskhead on August 25, 2015, 09:41:24 AM
tennis balls hanging from strings in the garage.  :lol:
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Post by: slobber on August 25, 2015, 09:52:32 AM
I prefer two doors to one large door. This assumes you actually have a decent size garage.
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Post by: Dr Rick Daris on August 25, 2015, 10:40:18 AM
I prefer two doors to one large door. This assumes you actually have a decent size garage.

the only debatable reason for this would be if you have a three car garage or larger. anything smaller and there is zero upside and plenty of down.
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Post by: dmartin on August 25, 2015, 11:22:38 AM
tennis balls hanging from strings in the garage.  :lol:

hey wait, I have a tennis ball hanging from a string in the garage.
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Post by: Dr Rick Daris on August 25, 2015, 11:38:46 AM
i should do a thread where i predict where i predict which posters have tennis balls hanging in their garage.

mikey4dcats-yes
libliblib-no
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Post by: pissclams on August 25, 2015, 11:40:43 AM
is the perspective off on the picture b/c that front door appears to be about 2 feet wide by 14 feet tall
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Post by: star seed 7 on August 25, 2015, 11:44:40 AM
Great guess ricky d, I use my ol' eyeballs to know when to stop  :thumbs:
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Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on August 25, 2015, 11:44:53 AM
i should do a thread where i predict where i predict which posters have tennis balls hanging in their garage.

mikey4dcats-yes
libliblib-no

could be just the thing to turn this combo fanning season around!
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Post by: Dr Rick Daris on August 25, 2015, 11:49:15 AM
is the perspective off on the picture b/c that front door appears to be about 2 feet wide by 14 feet tall

maybe there is a second front door just to the left and the two front doors are separated by a foot of wall in order to keep people from bumping into each other when coming/going.  :dunno:
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Post by: Kat Kid on August 25, 2015, 12:01:26 PM
stevesie seems like a tennis ball guy
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Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on August 25, 2015, 12:10:31 PM
i should do a thread where i predict where i predict which posters have tennis balls hanging in their garage.

mikey4dcats-yes
libliblib-no

nope, we have red lasers

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Post by: star seed 7 on August 25, 2015, 12:33:43 PM
High tech tennis balls
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Post by: Institutional Control on August 25, 2015, 12:45:56 PM
is the perspective off on the picture b/c that front door appears to be about 2 feet wide by 14 feet tall

It's just a standard 8' door. I'm not sure of the width.
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Post by: michigancat on August 25, 2015, 12:52:04 PM
tennis balls hanging from the ceiling seem very practical. Hardest part is probably getting the rope/string into the tennis ball. Second hardest part is hanging it from the ceiling.
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Post by: XocolateThundarr on August 25, 2015, 01:03:09 PM
I have one in our garage....but it is for my wife's benefit when parking. 
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Post by: michigancat on August 25, 2015, 01:34:10 PM
I have one in our garage....but it is for my wife's benefit when parking. 

BECAUSE WOMEN SUCK AT DRIVING AND MEN ARE AWESOME AT DRIVING
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Post by: XocolateThundarr on August 25, 2015, 01:43:00 PM
I have one in our garage....but it is for my wife's benefit when parking. 

BECAUSE WOMEN SUCK AT DRIVING AND MEN ARE AWESOME AT DRIVING
I have one in our garage....but it is for my wife's benefit when parking. 

BECAUSE WOMEN SUCK AT DRIVING AND MEN ARE AWESOME AT DRIVING

misogynist
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Post by: Tobias on August 25, 2015, 02:44:59 PM
i need one :frown:
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Post by: michigancat on August 25, 2015, 02:47:28 PM
i need one :frown:

what are you some kind of queer?
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Post by: Tobias on August 25, 2015, 02:48:20 PM
OUTED BY A TENNIS BALL!
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Post by: puniraptor on August 25, 2015, 07:33:20 PM
lol what a tasty cream filling
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Post by: CNS on August 25, 2015, 10:05:17 PM
We marked a spot on our garage wall.  Once the antenna shadow gets past the mark, boom! parked far enough in BUT NOT TOO FAR!!!

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Post by: Spracne on August 25, 2015, 10:48:26 PM
This thread is frightening
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Post by: Gooch on August 26, 2015, 01:14:41 PM
Some humans are not good drivers tho
See Mrs. Gooch parking on my grass. :curse:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 26, 2015, 01:32:41 PM
One big door is cheaper so keep that in mind if on a budget
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Post by: Dr Rick Daris on August 26, 2015, 02:10:50 PM
two doors allow you to put his on one and hers on the other though
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Post by: meow meow on August 26, 2015, 02:43:40 PM
I actually enjoy the 2 door vs 1 door debate more than the 2 bone vs 1 bone debate of 2014 or whenever that was.

if just a 2 car garage, I agree with Daris #team1door

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Post by: star seed 7 on August 26, 2015, 03:09:40 PM
One door looks stupid but is more efficient. Def a tough choice
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Post by: Dr Rick Daris on August 26, 2015, 03:29:18 PM
One door looks stupid but is more efficient. Def a tough choice

omg it does not. maybe it's specific to the part the country you live in though, like maybe topekanians love the two door look and park their irocs on one side and their trans ams on the other but my god a two car garage with two doors is quite possibly the dumbest AND ugliest thing that you could do to a house. there is no argument for a two door two car garage. none.
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Post by: Dr Rick Daris on August 26, 2015, 03:38:43 PM
just thought of a reason why you might have two separate garage doors. a townhouse situation were one person owns the left side of the house and a different person owns the right side. see below.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fp.rdcpix.com%2Fv01%2Fl26345345-m0xd-w640_h480_q80.jpg&hash=ce54db6af60a79b402ff590ecbe9a045b21372ab)
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 26, 2015, 03:40:21 PM
just thought of a reason why you might have two separate garage doors. a townhouse situation were one person owns the left side of the house and a different person owns the right side. see below.

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But those are each two doors wide.
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Post by: star seed 7 on August 26, 2015, 03:42:04 PM
Great picture to show how stupid a doublewide (like the trailers) garage door looks  :lol:
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Post by: Dr Rick Daris on August 26, 2015, 03:44:48 PM
there. are you two happy now? you just made me waste ten minutes looking for a one car townhouse picture.

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Post by: star seed 7 on August 26, 2015, 03:57:12 PM
I am pretty happy right now
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Post by: Dr Rick Daris on August 26, 2015, 04:05:00 PM
I actually lived in one of those for a year way back in 2003
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Post by: star seed 7 on August 26, 2015, 04:15:58 PM
Like one of those in the picture or just something similar
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 26, 2015, 04:16:13 PM
there. are you two happy now? you just made me waste ten minutes looking for a one car townhouse picture.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fak.t0.tiles.virtualearth.net%2Ftiles%2Fo02311102221-13343-19-22%3Fg%3D3699&hash=b6521e2f9ccb966f928d833d05aefff7d194e991)

It's so far away I can't tell how wide the doors are.
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 26, 2015, 04:24:35 PM
One door looks stupid but is more efficient. Def a tough choice

Are you telling me that this looks stupid?

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Post by: ChiComCat on August 26, 2015, 04:27:55 PM
One door looks stupid but is more efficient. Def a tough choice

Are you telling me that this looks stupid?

It looks like freedom to me.
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Post by: slobber on August 26, 2015, 04:34:48 PM
One door looks cheap. There, I said it.


Gonna win 'em all!
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Post by: Dr Rick Daris on August 26, 2015, 04:48:46 PM
 :emawkid:
Like one of those in the picture or just something similar

Bottom right in the picture
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Post by: Dr Rick Daris on August 26, 2015, 04:50:09 PM
 :emawkid:
One door looks cheap. There, I said it.


Gonna win 'em all!

Weird cause I think the opposite. Made a point to check out my neighborhood today. More two doors than I thought. Probably 30%.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: The Big Train on August 26, 2015, 04:53:41 PM
you know what a #1door is good for?  letting potential robbers know what kind of treasures you have in your whole garage. I am firmly on team #2door
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: meow meow on August 26, 2015, 06:40:29 PM
you know what a #1door is good for?  letting potential robbers know what kind of treasures you have in your whole garage. I am firmly on team #2door

If you live in such a bad neighborhood close all of your garage doors dipshit.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: The Big Train on August 26, 2015, 06:42:40 PM
you know what a #1door is good for?  letting potential robbers know what kind of treasures you have in your whole garage. I am firmly on team #2door

If you live in such a bad neighborhood close all of your garage doors dipshit.

since my next door neighbor is the most likely to rob me, bad person.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: wetwillie on August 26, 2015, 08:03:34 PM
Two doors requires two garage door openers which is really inefficient.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: slobber on August 26, 2015, 08:06:02 PM
My garage door openers are in the top of my medicine cabinet.


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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: GoodForAnother on August 26, 2015, 10:46:39 PM
two car, one door here, with tennis balls hanging from the ceiling

also we got new tile installed!

before  :Yuck:

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after  :ksu:

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now comes painting cabinets/entire house  :driving:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: dmartin on August 27, 2015, 09:50:40 AM
tennis balls hanging from the ceiling seem very practical. Hardest part is probably getting the rope/string into the tennis ball. Second hardest part is hanging it from the ceiling.

I would say getting the string into/onto the tennis ball is the easy part. Hanging the ball from the ceiling with the vehicle parked in the correct place is much more difficult, unless you have freakishly long arms.

And just throwing this out here, but I have a double door, and two single doors on the same garage.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on August 27, 2015, 09:56:19 AM
Two doors requires two garage door openers which is really inefficient.

yeah, i dont want to have to open both garage doors to park my rough ridin' abrams battle tank that only fits in my garage when i have both sides open  :flush:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: GoodForAnother on August 27, 2015, 02:24:30 PM
FYI Home Depot sells tennis balls with strings already attached
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on August 27, 2015, 02:38:46 PM
I think I may add a fourth stall because lil sd is acquiring ride on vehicles/bikes/scooters at an unbelievable rate. that or start a "get a new one, throw one in the garbage" exchange program.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: CNS on August 27, 2015, 02:40:38 PM
I think I may add a fourth stall because lil sd is acquiring ride on vehicles/bikes/scooters at an unbelievable rate. that or start a "get a new one, throw one in the garbage" exchange program.

Just set him up with leases on those vehicles and only get a new one when the old lease is up.   :dunno:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 27, 2015, 02:54:58 PM
I think I may add a fourth stall because lil sd is acquiring ride on vehicles/bikes/scooters at an unbelievable rate. that or start a "get a new one, throw one in the garbage" exchange program.

Just set him up with leases on those vehicles and only get a new one when the old lease is up.   :dunno:

Can't you trade them in?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: IPA4Me on August 28, 2015, 08:11:36 PM
You should probably just start a new thread and get the new house rolling.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 28, 2015, 10:20:22 PM
Two doors requires two garage door openers which is really inefficient.

Rich people problems
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Tobias on August 28, 2015, 10:24:39 PM

You should probably just start a new thread and get the new house rolling.

i don't think emo is coming back :frown:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: IPA4Me on August 29, 2015, 06:41:51 AM



i don't think emo is coming back :frown:

Guess I missed that message board drama.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: CNS on August 29, 2015, 10:10:38 AM
No drama.   He just stopped posting. 

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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: IPA4Me on August 29, 2015, 10:25:52 AM
No drama.   He just stopped posting. 

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Well. I guess no drama is better. Hope all is well with him.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Tobias on August 29, 2015, 10:42:50 AM
more fattyfest trivia-related than anything else
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: meow meow on August 29, 2015, 06:08:18 PM
Can I just state that for 3 car garages I do NOT endorse just 1 door.  That would look funny.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: renocat on August 29, 2015, 08:03:06 PM
Get one of those instant $545 hillbilly canopy garages, no door opener needed.  Good place to whizz in the  middle of night when it's raining.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: star seed 7 on August 29, 2015, 08:34:57 PM
Get one of those instant $545 hillbilly canopy garages, no door opener needed.  Good place to whizz in the  middle of night when it's raining.

great idea.  i love whizzing outside when it's raining  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Institutional Control on September 18, 2015, 08:17:53 AM
They started putting on the brick, guys.
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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: ShellShock on September 18, 2015, 08:23:23 AM
two car, one door here, with tennis balls hanging from the ceiling

also we got new tile installed!

before  :Yuck:

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after  :ksu:

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now comes painting cabinets/entire house  :driving:

Great job on the tile selection! Question: why didn't you do all the cabinet demo and stuff before putting down new expensive flooring? One hard drop when you're taking that crap down and you'll crack a tile.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: pissclams on September 18, 2015, 10:04:34 AM

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what's going on with the coke glasses display shelf
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: star seed 7 on September 18, 2015, 10:05:39 AM
Remember McDonald's gave those away like 5 years ago
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: GoodForAnother on September 18, 2015, 10:18:35 AM
two car, one door here, with tennis balls hanging from the ceiling

also we got new tile installed!

before  :Yuck:

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Ftr7uulP.jpg&hash=0bec0661f083b3b2e453ffed68c0f3a74bed201f)

after  :ksu:

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now comes painting cabinets/entire house  :driving:

Great job on the tile selection! Question: why didn't you do all the cabinet demo and stuff before putting down new expensive flooring? One hard drop when you're taking that crap down and you'll crack a tile.

we're not taking the cabinets out, just going to have them painted and new hardware and then I'll probably do a new backsplash

we just had to get a new hvac system installed so it's on hold for a bit  :flush:


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what's going on with the coke glasses display shelf

my wife buys things at thrift stores and puts them on shelves
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: GoodForAnother on September 18, 2015, 10:22:10 AM
also tile wasn't that expensive, my sister is an interior architect and got it from her vendor for us for $1.69/sf.  then I ripped out the old stuff myself and paid a guy $1000 to install the new stuff.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on September 18, 2015, 10:25:02 AM
Good job on choosing seperate single garage doors. Looks much classier than a double door.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: CNS on September 18, 2015, 10:25:58 AM
also tile wasn't that expensive, my sister is an interior architect and got it from her vendor for us for $1.69/sf.  then I ripped out the old stuff myself and paid a guy $1000 to install the new stuff.

I like that kind of tile a lot. Looks good. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: star seed 7 on September 18, 2015, 10:27:04 AM
Good job on choosing seperate single garage doors. Looks much classier than a double door.

Exactly.  Singles = mission hills,  doubles = Olathe
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Institutional Control on September 18, 2015, 10:29:20 AM
Good job on choosing seperate single garage doors. Looks much classier than a double door.

Thank you, K-S-U.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on September 18, 2015, 11:10:13 AM
They started putting on the brick, guys.
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look at that erosion control for the sand  :love:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on September 18, 2015, 11:12:23 AM
i mean, wow. eff you, sand, no way are you gonna get through here to get to my lazy back gutter #hiya
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on September 18, 2015, 11:13:16 AM
man, and its monolithic too?! youve got quite the APWA chapter down there. beautiful stuff...
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: mocat on September 18, 2015, 11:26:19 AM
Batt BcKee can't see the forest or the trees  :frown:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on September 18, 2015, 11:34:28 AM
i mean, wow. eff you, sand, no way are you gonna get through here to get to my lazy back gutter #hiya

except for that little bit creeping through.

They don't understand how erosion control installation works, clearly.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: XocolateThundarr on September 18, 2015, 11:41:17 AM
i mean, wow. eff you, sand, no way are you gonna get through here to get to my lazy back gutter #hiya

except for that little bit creeping through.

They don't understand how erosion control installation works, clearly.

I could post some pictures of some crap that would blow your mind concerning that aspect of construction.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: star seed 7 on September 18, 2015, 11:44:14 AM
i mean, wow. eff you, sand, no way are you gonna get through here to get to my lazy back gutter #hiya

except for that little bit creeping through.

They don't understand how erosion control installation works, clearly.

I could post some pictures of some crap that would blow your mind concerning that aspect of construction.

Lol
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on September 18, 2015, 11:47:54 AM
straw waddle can GTFO my face
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on September 18, 2015, 11:49:58 AM
straw waddle can GTFO my face

WTF is it so expensive?    :bang:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: GoodForAnother on September 19, 2015, 10:40:11 PM
Batt BcKee can't see the forest or the trees  :frown:

iirc the house is in Prosper which is a large open field with a bunch of houses in it
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Institutional Control on September 27, 2015, 11:09:23 AM

Batt BcKee can't see the forest or the trees  :frown:

iirc the house is in Prosper which is a large open field with a bunch of houses in it
that pretty much describes all of north Texas.


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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Institutional Control on September 27, 2015, 11:10:21 AM
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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: michigancat on September 27, 2015, 11:14:49 AM
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Are the brick layers not paid to pick up their trash? Gross.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Institutional Control on September 27, 2015, 11:16:16 AM
They just finished on Friday. I assume someone will be cleaning up soon. 


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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: slobber on September 27, 2015, 12:15:54 PM

They just finished on Friday. I assume someone will be cleaning up soon. 


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no, they will just lay Bermuda sod right over the top of as much of that trash as they can.


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: GoodForAnother on September 27, 2015, 06:26:01 PM

Batt BcKee can't see the forest or the trees  :frown:

iirc the house is in Prosper which is a large open field with a bunch of houses in it
that pretty much describes all of north Texas.


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Euless is tree city USA bro
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Institutional Control on September 27, 2015, 07:27:17 PM
I used to live in Bedford and the worst part about it was that it was so close to Euless.


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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Gooch on September 28, 2015, 10:29:31 AM
I used to live in Bedford and the worst part about it was that it was so close to Euless.


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Euless more like Useless.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Institutional Control on October 05, 2015, 09:45:56 PM
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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: star seed 7 on October 05, 2015, 09:46:35 PM
nice shirt
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Tobias on October 05, 2015, 09:47:24 PM
did they give you currie gloves
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: star seed 7 on October 05, 2015, 09:47:56 PM
i never pictured CFoD as bald either  :eek:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: puniraptor on October 05, 2015, 09:48:09 PM
Is that a front yard swimming pool?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: meow meow on October 05, 2015, 09:54:18 PM
Is that a front yard swimming pool?

It's a moat/lazy river  :love: :love: :love:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Institutional Control on October 09, 2015, 06:42:14 PM
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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: GoodForAnother on October 09, 2015, 06:50:19 PM
I used to live in Bedford and the worst part about it was that it was so close to Euless.


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You lived in the mid cities and moved to Collin county? You must be stupid
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on October 09, 2015, 06:50:55 PM
-how much space you want  between your house and your pool fam?
-what's the least possible?
-say no more.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Tobias on October 09, 2015, 08:22:19 PM
as soon as that pool starts leaking your house is going to cave in
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: star seed 7 on October 09, 2015, 08:26:43 PM
indoor pool you dunce
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: wetwillie on October 09, 2015, 09:50:48 PM
I used to live in Bedford and the worst part about it was that it was so close to Euless.


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You lived in the mid cities and moved to Collin county? You must be stupid

I admire your unrelentless attacks on northeast dallas and defending of the mid cities honor.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Institutional Control on October 11, 2015, 08:46:29 PM

-how much space you want  between your house and your pool fam?
-what's the least possible?
-say no more.

I want to be able to jump from the roof into the pool and I can't jump as far as I used to.


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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: dmartin on October 12, 2015, 08:17:09 AM

-how much space you want  between your house and your pool fam?
-what's the least possible?
-say no more.

I want to be able to jump from the roof into the pool and I can't jump as far as I used to.


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I was just thinking that diving into the pool from the second floor would be a hell of a way to wake up every morning.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: renocat on October 12, 2015, 06:58:21 PM
Pool can double as a sewer lagoon
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: star seed 7 on October 12, 2015, 07:01:01 PM
that will fit right in with dallas
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Institutional Control on October 29, 2015, 11:39:33 AM
Countertops put in yesterday. 45 days from closing!
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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on October 29, 2015, 11:58:33 AM
look very plasticy. be sure to use hot pads.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: The Big Train on October 29, 2015, 12:57:14 PM
Why are you watching a house being built that isn't yours yet?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: pissclams on October 29, 2015, 01:02:00 PM
i would have made those three windows into one pocket window. slide it open while finishing up breakfast and be able to throw your kids into the pool from the dining table. finish your coffee in peace.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on October 29, 2015, 01:07:38 PM
yeah, why the three tiny baby windows?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 29, 2015, 01:10:15 PM
i would have made those three windows into one pocket window. slide it open while finishing up breakfast and be able to throw your kids into the pool from the dining table. finish your coffee in peace.

Get a running start and just hammercock your way into the pool.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: star seed 7 on October 29, 2015, 02:03:07 PM
yeah, why the three tiny baby windows?

Probably because it's a radius
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 29, 2015, 02:41:15 PM
yeah, why the three tiny baby windows?

Probably because it's a radius

you're a radius
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on October 29, 2015, 03:04:50 PM
yeah, why the three tiny baby windows?

Probably because it's a radius

you're a radius

ouch.
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Post by: star seed 7 on October 29, 2015, 03:10:16 PM
I'll take that as a compliment
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Post by: Institutional Control on November 05, 2015, 10:00:10 AM
OMG, it's so tiny. I will I get by?

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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Skipper44 on November 05, 2015, 10:47:38 AM
I really like the stone accents, like a little touch of Nichols Hall
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Post by: michigancat on November 05, 2015, 11:16:38 AM
OMG, it's so tiny. I will I get by?

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lol
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Post by: meow meow on November 05, 2015, 11:37:51 AM
how's the patio pool coming?
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Post by: Emo EMAW on November 05, 2015, 11:47:23 AM
I see AT&T has been doing your landscaping.
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Post by: pissclams on November 05, 2015, 12:51:48 PM
OMG, it's so tiny. I will I get by?

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it's kinda game of throney
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Institutional Control on November 05, 2015, 01:09:46 PM

how's the patio pool coming?

The decking is done for the pool. Pool builder is just waiting for the home builder to finish landscaping and then they'll come in and plaster it.


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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Skipper44 on November 05, 2015, 01:15:57 PM
Did  you put in a heater for the pool?
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Post by: Institutional Control on November 05, 2015, 01:23:08 PM
Did  you put in a heater for the pool?

No. I can't get natural gas at my house and the electric heaters are terrible.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: pissclams on November 05, 2015, 01:26:40 PM
how deep is your pool?
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Post by: Institutional Control on November 05, 2015, 01:35:17 PM
how deep is your pool?

5 1/2 in the middle.
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Post by: dmartin on November 05, 2015, 01:57:28 PM
OMG, it's so tiny. I will I get by?

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it's kinda game of throney

Wait until he adds the moat to the pool
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: pissclams on November 05, 2015, 02:14:42 PM
how deep is your pool?

5 1/2 in the middle.
that's not very deep, would you consider making it deeper?  just thinking about pool parties and such.  i like doing can openers and honestly, the deeper i can open that can, the better the splash. thoughts?
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Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on November 05, 2015, 02:19:17 PM
shallow pools make for great pool volleyball sessions
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Post by: sys on November 05, 2015, 02:25:28 PM
tonya.  there aren't any trees.
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Post by: Emo EMAW on November 05, 2015, 02:34:02 PM
Tonya don't listen to sys I spend like 40 hours a week bagging leaves. 
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Post by: Institutional Control on November 05, 2015, 02:36:51 PM
The pool depth was decided upon specifically for volleyball.
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Post by: sys on November 05, 2015, 02:41:49 PM
i guess that's Batt BcKee's house, not tonya's house.  sorry, Batt BcKee.
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Post by: Institutional Control on November 05, 2015, 02:55:55 PM
i guess that's Batt BcKee's house, not tonya's house.  sorry, Batt BcKee.

It's ok.

But you're right... no trees.  Commute-wise, I'm not able to live in the scenic area of the DFW metroplex, like Euless.  I have to make do with my cabin on the plains of North Texas.
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Post by: sys on November 05, 2015, 03:23:44 PM
it's an attractive house.  i like the brickwork.  i really like trees though.  that smell of downed leaves in the fall.  also the shade.
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Post by: chum1 on November 05, 2015, 03:46:16 PM
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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: CNS on November 05, 2015, 04:02:59 PM
Blank tree canvas is exciting.

However

You have to wait like 10 yrs to enjoy your new trees

You need a bunch of crape myrtle trees.  Like three different colors.  Also, put in a couple magnolias right next to the house on the south side. 

Also, azaleas and rhododendron, too. 

Pay for the bigger plants and not the huge trees.  Smaller trees surpass the larger ones, supposedly, in that they are faster at root development since the larger ones have their larger roots cut back at the nursery.

Also, put in some evergreens like boxwood, holly, or yews  around the back yard patio pool to give you so.e privacy. 

Lilacs, too.

Man, this would be fun.

Also also, just get filthy with hyacinth  bulbs in like every single bed you can. 

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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on November 05, 2015, 04:13:38 PM
do none of ^ that and get a big ass stereo for v-ball parties instead
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Fedor on November 05, 2015, 04:14:07 PM
Forget everything CNS said and just plant Bradford Pears everywhere.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Institutional Control on November 05, 2015, 04:44:36 PM
Crape myrtles and pools do not go together.


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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: sys on November 05, 2015, 04:47:56 PM
i don't much care for crape myrtles either.
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Post by: EMAWican on November 05, 2015, 06:45:07 PM
More like CRAP myrtles, amirite?
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Post by: Tobias on November 05, 2015, 06:46:37 PM
i like it, known piece of crap Batt BcKee
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Post by: Institutional Control on November 05, 2015, 07:03:44 PM

i like it, known piece of crap Batt BcKee

Thanks, buddy.


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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: CNS on November 05, 2015, 07:45:30 PM
i don't much care for crape myrtles either.
There beautiful and I can't have any of them, other than one shitty kind, here in dumbass shitty zone 5. 

The pool is going to just rough ridin' have to deal with it.  I mean, you need to plan on skimming once a day anyway.

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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Institutional Control on November 17, 2015, 06:45:30 PM
I've got a tree now, guys!

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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: star seed 7 on November 17, 2015, 06:46:35 PM
that's a shade providing son of a bitch
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Post by: sys on November 17, 2015, 07:06:23 PM
the tree really sets off the house.
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Post by: Tobias on November 17, 2015, 07:18:57 PM
that sidewalk doesn't stand a chance
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Post by: chum1 on November 17, 2015, 07:23:12 PM
That tree looks extremely skinny. Interesting choice.
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Post by: wetwillie on November 17, 2015, 07:26:36 PM
Looks like Batt BcKee got his ass handed to him by the HOA
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Post by: Institutional Control on November 17, 2015, 09:12:43 PM

that's a shade providing son of a birch

FYP


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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on November 18, 2015, 08:13:29 AM
Batt BcKee, that tree has no leaves. take it back to the tree store.
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Post by: meow meow on November 18, 2015, 09:07:29 AM
more back yard/pool pics plz
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Post by: dmartin on November 18, 2015, 09:13:35 AM
and you're still stuck with a mobile home next door.
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Post by: Emo EMAW on November 18, 2015, 09:26:45 AM
Every dog in the neighborhood will pee on that tree.
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Post by: slobber on November 18, 2015, 09:31:03 AM
Your sod guys suck.


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Post by: Institutional Control on November 18, 2015, 09:43:48 AM

and you're still stuck with a mobile home next door.

Builders office. They're set to move it to the newer phase of the development within 6 months. Only 3 available lots left in our phase.


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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Institutional Control on November 18, 2015, 09:44:53 AM
The thing about the tree, it seems dumb to put it between the sidewalk and street but that's where the HOA wants it.


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Post by: star seed 7 on November 18, 2015, 10:15:13 AM
You need to tell the hoa to toss off now or they will walk all over you
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Post by: kitten_mittons on November 18, 2015, 10:31:48 AM
The thing about the tree, it seems dumb to put it between the sidewalk and street but that's where the HOA wants it.


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It'll be fun dodging branches of you try and walk on the sidewalk.
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Post by: dmartin on November 18, 2015, 11:01:12 AM

and you're still stuck with a mobile home next door.

Builders office. They're set to move it to the newer phase of the development within 6 months. Only 3 available lots left in our phase.


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yeah, i was just being shitty.

If the tree roots tear up the sidewalk, will it be on you to fix it?   Was a legal issue here lately when the city billed a homeowner for having to repair the sidewalk, apparently it's the homeowner's responsibility to care for it.
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Post by: CNS on November 18, 2015, 01:50:51 PM
If your HOA is like mine was when our old neighborhood was still building, the developer is the only member of the HOA board until they close out the neighborhood, meaning do whatever you want right now and hurry up before they hand it over to your shitty neighbors that have nothing better to do than bitch about your fence height and stuff. 

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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: CNS on November 18, 2015, 01:51:08 PM
Get grandfathered in right now.

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Post by: chum1 on November 18, 2015, 03:54:15 PM
If your HOA is like mine was when our old neighborhood was still building, the developer is the only member of the HOA board until they close out the neighborhood, meaning do whatever you want right now and hurry up before they hand it over to your shitty neighbors that have nothing better to do than bitch about your fence height and stuff. 

That's a great tip.
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Post by: Institutional Control on November 18, 2015, 07:28:39 PM

If your HOA is like mine was when our old neighborhood was still building, the developer is the only member of the HOA board until they close out the neighborhood, meaning do whatever you want right now and hurry up before they hand it over to your shitty neighbors that have nothing better to do than bitch about your fence height and stuff. 

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yes, the developer controls the HOA for now. But I've heard they're kind of dicks about everything and most people think it will get better when the community takes it over.


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Post by: wetwillie on November 18, 2015, 07:35:37 PM

If your HOA is like mine was when our old neighborhood was still building, the developer is the only member of the HOA board until they close out the neighborhood, meaning do whatever you want right now and hurry up before they hand it over to your shitty neighbors that have nothing better to do than bitch about your fence height and stuff. 

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yes, the developer controls the HOA for now. But I've heard they're kind of dicks about everything and most people think it will get better when the community takes it over.


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Post by: star seed 7 on November 18, 2015, 08:04:12 PM
you should move immediately holy crap
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Post by: AbeFroman on November 18, 2015, 08:16:58 PM

If your HOA is like mine was when our old neighborhood was still building, the developer is the only member of the HOA board until they close out the neighborhood, meaning do whatever you want right now and hurry up before they hand it over to your shitty neighbors that have nothing better to do than bitch about your fence height and stuff. 

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yes, the developer controls the HOA for now. But I've heard they're kind of dicks about everything and most people think it will get better when the community takes it over.


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Isn't that exactly what a bunch of HOA dorks want you to think?
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Post by: Dr Rick Daris on November 18, 2015, 09:39:06 PM
did you guys know that if you live in mhk, you can call the city and have them come plant a tree between your sidewalk and street? and they do it for free? wow!
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Post by: CNS on November 19, 2015, 06:43:51 AM
Order a bunch of them for your neighbor as a joke.

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Post by: sys on November 19, 2015, 01:16:14 PM
can you pick the tree species?
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Post by: CHONGS on November 19, 2015, 01:24:56 PM
Get a paperbark maple!
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Post by: Dr Rick Daris on November 19, 2015, 01:27:48 PM
can you pick the tree species?

kind of, i think. they send you a little letter with their recommendation based on your neighborhood or whatever and then i think you have the ability to reject their suggestion. they then contact all the companies to come out and spray your yard with where wires and junk are. then someone from the city comes out and marks where they will place it. then they come and place it and it doesn't cost anything. wow!
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Post by: sys on November 19, 2015, 01:29:09 PM
trees are great.
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Post by: star seed 7 on November 19, 2015, 01:31:58 PM
Those are the actions of a tree city, usa
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Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on November 19, 2015, 01:34:16 PM
just called the city about placing 18 poison oak trees in oscar webers yard  :lol:
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Post by: meow meow on November 19, 2015, 01:43:16 PM
can someone call them and get a bunch of trees planted along the WSC since John Currie is too cheap to do it himself.
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Post by: CHONGS on November 19, 2015, 01:49:32 PM
I have the tallest tree in the neighborhood.
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Post by: Dr Rick Daris on November 19, 2015, 02:27:44 PM
can someone call them and get a bunch of trees planted along the WSC since John Currie is too cheap to do it himself.

not a bad suggestion
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Post by: CNS on November 19, 2015, 02:31:59 PM
Bunch of Bradford pears!

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Post by: meow meow on November 19, 2015, 02:53:19 PM
Absolutely knot!
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Post by: WillieWatanabe on November 19, 2015, 08:18:59 PM
I have the tallest tree in the neighborhood.

what kind is it?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Emo EMAW on December 17, 2015, 11:48:36 AM
Right now there is a contractor in my basement putting up stone on a wall.  I am giddy to go home and see what it looks like.  :excited:
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Post by: Institutional Control on December 17, 2015, 12:16:42 PM
Did a walk through of the house today.  Final walk through is next week and close on the 28th.   :excited:
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Post by: Cire on December 17, 2015, 12:31:32 PM
I like the look of well kept trees.  Lots of people don't properly prune.
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Post by: Institutional Control on January 01, 2016, 09:09:55 AM
Moved in this week.  Feels great.   :excited:
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Post by: steve dave on January 01, 2016, 09:13:17 AM
Congrats goEMAW poster Batt BcKee
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Post by: SkinnyBenny on January 02, 2016, 12:00:44 PM
Stud poster moves into a brand new stud house. "That's goEMAW.com."
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Post by: GoodForAnother on January 03, 2016, 06:38:21 PM
I have like 40 trees.  They're great but they can be real dicks when they drop crap all over my yard and house.  Luckily I have a boss ass leaf blower and then a guy I call when I'm feeling lazy and/or am out of town.

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we also have an all-natural Texas drainage ditch in our backyard.  it's very peaceful and utilitarian.
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Post by: pissclams on January 03, 2016, 06:43:44 PM
man.  40 trees.  you should cut them down and burn the wood to get rid of any evidence.
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Post by: star seed 7 on January 03, 2016, 10:20:04 PM
Concrete rivers, you're right, dallas is great
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Post by: wetwillie on January 03, 2016, 11:09:57 PM
I bet your garage is on the back of your house with an alley too
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: GoodForAnother on January 05, 2016, 11:21:42 PM
I bet your garage is on the back of your house with an alley too

yes but no alley, wraparound driveway.  idk why they do the back-house-garage thing.
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Post by: Skipper44 on January 05, 2016, 11:24:45 PM
I bet your garage is on the back of your house with an alley too

yes but no alley, wraparound driveway.  idk why they do the back-house-garage thing.
it makes for a sweet hoops setup
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Post by: GoodForAnother on January 05, 2016, 11:28:21 PM
I bet your garage is on the back of your house with an alley too

yes but no alley, wraparound driveway.  idk why they do the back-house-garage thing.
it makes for a sweet hoops setup

true, I need to buy a hoop and just ball out back there
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Post by: slobber on January 26, 2016, 06:59:56 AM
Might be buying and remodeling. Could be interesting.


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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: GoodForAnother on January 26, 2016, 07:17:35 AM
Might be buying and remodeling. Could be interesting.


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it's fun. I kinda wish we had bought a house that needed more work so we could've just done it all at once instead of buying a decent house and remodeling slowly over a few years like we are.
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Post by: Tobias on January 26, 2016, 07:25:15 AM
line on a/c units is currently 2.5
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Post by: slobber on January 26, 2016, 07:52:20 AM
@GFA this would all be done at once. Getting a rough quote now.

@Tobias, take the under based on layout.


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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Tobias on January 26, 2016, 07:54:50 AM
everything going ok slobbs?
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Post by: Tobias on January 26, 2016, 07:55:12 AM
i'm here for you
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Post by: slobber on January 26, 2016, 07:57:31 AM
What? It's all good. Want to move closer to the kids' schools.


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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: pissclams on January 26, 2016, 08:18:22 AM
based upon me watching Israel (from Flip or Flop) bid work, i can pull together a rough quote for you

just list the work here
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Post by: IPA4Me on January 30, 2016, 05:57:45 AM
Might be buying and remodeling. Could be interesting.


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Thinking about this. I want 20+ acres and a fixer upper. We live in a small county though. Not much on the market.
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Post by: slobber on January 30, 2016, 08:25:12 AM

based upon me watching Israel (from Flip or Flop) bid work, i can pull together a rough quote for you

just list the work here
It came out to $100,000 more than I estimated!!!!! Even if I could get it down $50,000, it is still more than the house would be worth. Plus, I am not willing to sacrifice any of the changes we wanted.

Israel has better connections than I do. I was estimating via knowledge I learned from him as well.

We have a nice house, so we are not desperate. We'll just keep looking.


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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: CNS on January 30, 2016, 11:06:00 AM
Holy crap.  Maybe back off the gold toilets?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: GoodForAnother on January 30, 2016, 02:51:43 PM
I feel like 100k should be enough to gut most houses. Did you talk to Chip and Joanna?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: slobber on January 30, 2016, 03:04:19 PM

I feel like 100k should be enough to gut most houses. Did you talk to Chip and Joanna?
we were adding on as well. I was guessing 200, came back at 295. We didn't even try to get a second quote or see if the first guy would do it cheaper than that. There'll be other houses, and rest assured, I will use this thread if necessary!


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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: GoodForAnother on January 30, 2016, 04:56:03 PM

I feel like 100k should be enough to gut most houses. Did you talk to Chip and Joanna?
we were adding on as well. I was guessing 200, came back at 295. We didn't even try to get a second quote or see if the first guy would do it cheaper than that. There'll be other houses, and rest assured, I will use this thread if necessary!


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dang that's a huge job fam
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Gooch on October 25, 2016, 10:37:57 AM
@Mrs.Gooch Hemmy print this bad boy and then condense all the good advice into a spreadsheet. Kthx
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on October 25, 2016, 10:40:08 AM
smashing down a pud house on a stud lot and building fresh is what the cool kids do these days. drop a mcmansion on that tiny old POS prairie village house immediately dobbs.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 25, 2016, 10:58:41 AM
smashing down a pud house on a stud lot and building fresh is what the cool kids do these days. drop a mcmansion on that tiny old POS prairie village house immediately dobbs.

yup.  doze that thing and throw up a 4 car garage beast
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: wetwillie on October 25, 2016, 02:03:41 PM
smashing down a pud house on a stud lot and building fresh is what the cool kids do these days. drop a mcmansion on that tiny old POS prairie village house immediately dobbs.

Son of a bitch Dobbs evacuated north cackalacky?   
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on October 25, 2016, 02:05:03 PM
smashing down a pud house on a stud lot and building fresh is what the cool kids do these days. drop a mcmansion on that tiny old POS prairie village house immediately dobbs.

Son of a bitch Dobbs evacuated north cackalacky?

every city has its prairie village
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: CNS on October 25, 2016, 02:43:00 PM
Seems to have evacuated gE, though.   :frown:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: star seed 7 on October 25, 2016, 05:23:18 PM
Didn't even notice
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: ben ji on January 08, 2017, 11:06:51 AM
Lets talk about these Icicles forming on my exhaust vent on the roof. This is the first time I have noticed this much ice but I'm assuming it has happened in the past as I have had the same vent setup for a couple years.

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I'm guessing that I will need to put a new hood vent on the furnace exhaust but is this something that can wait until the spring? Will the ice forming on and beneath the exhaust damage my roof?


The current vent is a hoopty version I added about 4 years ago after the old one was removed by roofers, just went to home depot and bought something that looked like it would work. Is there a certain type of exhaust vent I should buy to prevent this from happening again?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Spracne on January 08, 2017, 11:14:35 AM
Lets talk about these Icicles forming on my exhaust vent on the roof. This is the first time I have noticed this much ice but I'm assuming it has happened in the past as I have had the same vent setup for a couple years.

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I'm guessing that I will need to put a new hood vent on the furnace exhaust but is this something that can wait until the spring? Will the ice forming on and beneath the exhaust damage my roof?


The current vent is a hoopty version I added about 4 years ago after the old one was removed by roofers, just went to home depot and bought something that looked like it would work. Is there a certain type of exhaust vent I should buy to prevent this from happening again?
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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: ednksu on January 08, 2017, 04:57:59 PM
What is that ice periscope right in front of your furnace vent?  I'm asking/concerned if that is your plumbing vent, if that is totally iced over you might want to make sure that is clear sooner rather then later so you don't have sewer gasses backing up into your house.   
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: IPA4Me on January 08, 2017, 05:18:08 PM
At the furnace, is there a metal pipe on the flue or pvc?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: ben ji on January 08, 2017, 05:26:47 PM
What is that ice periscope right in front of your furnace vent?  I'm asking/concerned if that is your plumbing vent, if that is totally iced over you might want to make sure that is clear sooner rather then later so you don't have sewer gasses backing up into your house.

No plumbing vent, just how the water dripped down.

 
At the furnace, is there a metal pipe on the flue or pvc?

Metal pipe going up through the roof for exhaust if thats what you are asking.

Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: IPA4Me on January 08, 2017, 05:30:10 PM

Metal pipe going up through the roof for exhaust if thats what you are asking.
Yes, that's what I was asking. Sure seems like a lot of condensation for an 80% furnace. Possibly not drafting correctly due to short chimney. I'd extend it and make it square.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Tobias on January 08, 2017, 05:37:30 PM
make it octagonal like a true EMAW
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: yoga-like_abana on January 08, 2017, 10:15:17 PM
Anyone own/bought rentals? Thoughts? peggy po's/nancy negs?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: The Big Train on January 08, 2017, 10:19:38 PM
Anyone own/bought rentals? Thoughts? peggy po's/nancy negs?

@Dr Ricky D
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Tobias on January 08, 2017, 10:28:10 PM
sounds awful
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: puniraptor on January 09, 2017, 12:27:01 AM
Anyone own/bought rentals? Thoughts? peggy po's/nancy negs?

I bought a house for myself in lovely MHK that I am now renting to dirt people who are apparently trashing it with cat piss
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: puniraptor on January 09, 2017, 12:29:01 AM
Anyone own/bought rentals? Thoughts? peggy po's/nancy negs?

I bought a house for myself in lovely MHK that I am now renting to dirt people who are apparently trashing it with cat piss

AMA
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: star seed 7 on January 09, 2017, 12:49:29 AM
Anyone own/bought rentals? Thoughts? peggy po's/nancy negs?

Tenets aren't worth the hassle
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Tobias on January 09, 2017, 12:52:13 AM
Anyone own/bought rentals? Thoughts? peggy po's/nancy negs?

Tenets aren't worth the hassle

we're not talking about nationalist socialism
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: star seed 7 on January 09, 2017, 12:54:23 AM
Nilalistic tenets are the worst
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: GregKSU1027 on January 09, 2017, 01:02:35 AM
Anyone own/bought rentals? Thoughts? peggy po's/nancy negs?

I bought a house for myself in lovely MHK that I am now renting to dirt people who are apparently trashing it with cat piss

AMA
Puni get them to move out so I can move in

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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: puniraptor on January 09, 2017, 03:03:13 AM
Anyone own/bought rentals? Thoughts? peggy po's/nancy negs?

I bought a house for myself in lovely MHK that I am now renting to dirt people who are apparently trashing it with cat piss

AMA
Puni get them to move out so I can move in

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It's an economics problem now. I could boot them in Feb but then I'd have to replace all the flooring to make it nice for the next dirt person to wreck OR i could lock them into their filth for the next 18 months and pocket that paper.

You're too young for the burbs anyhow.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: GregKSU1027 on January 09, 2017, 03:26:05 AM
Contact me in a year in a half

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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: HerrSonntag on January 09, 2017, 05:29:02 PM
Lets talk about these Icicles forming on my exhaust vent on the roof. This is the first time I have noticed this much ice but I'm assuming it has happened in the past as I have had the same vent setup for a couple years.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fuploads.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F20170108%2F803c820193809bf9bb71fa26f79ba153.jpg&hash=0454eeffc71a5af9459a168ca0d2f804de6e7ed0)

I'm guessing that I will need to put a new hood vent on the furnace exhaust but is this something that can wait until the spring? Will the ice forming on and beneath the exhaust damage my roof?


The current vent is a hoopty version I added about 4 years ago after the old one was removed by roofers, just went to home depot and bought something that looked like it would work. Is there a certain type of exhaust vent I should buy to prevent this from happening again?
I'm not sure if there's any kind of vent hood that could prevent condensation on the outside of the vent. But it's really nothing to worry about.  Your roof is designed to deal with water and ice forming on top. 

Things to watch out for would be if the condensation is coming back in the line, that's bad but you can warp some insulation around the line to fix it.  And I guess if the ice piles get so bad that the section of roof might not support them would be bad, but they'd have to be much larger than what you've got.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Bloodfart on July 20, 2017, 03:54:40 PM
Considering building a house per se more like a barndominium on the 1/4 we bought this spring.  Thoughts?  Opinions?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: star seed 7 on July 20, 2017, 03:58:21 PM
What is a barndominium
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: star seed 7 on July 20, 2017, 04:02:52 PM
Oh, it's just a barn for people.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Bloodfart on July 20, 2017, 04:09:35 PM
Yeah
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Post by: Bloodfart on July 20, 2017, 04:12:32 PM
It would be a temporary thing till we build the mansion.  Anyone have experience with shouses on this blog?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: star seed 7 on July 20, 2017, 04:27:23 PM
Why would you build a people barn for temporary? It would probably cost as much as the real house.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: mhkpasa on July 20, 2017, 04:45:49 PM
Sounds like you need to buy a $10,000 double wide and drag her on the back 80 while you build the forever trailer.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Bloodfart on July 20, 2017, 04:55:33 PM
Just thinkin down the road.  We don't want people in our home so the shouse could facilitate that.  I'm just concerned about the kids feeling like vagabonds.  I want them to be comfortable in this transitional period.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Tobias on July 20, 2017, 04:57:55 PM
they're just kids, wgaf
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 20, 2017, 05:04:33 PM
Considering building a house per se more like a barndominium on the 1/4 we bought this spring.  Thoughts?  Opinions?

I have an uncle who did this sort of thing when he built his house. Basically, he made a very big garage with a bathroom and a temporary bedroom and lived in it while he and his wife built their house attached to it. He stained the concrete floor and it looked a whole lot nicer than I expected it to.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: bucket on July 20, 2017, 05:16:12 PM
Watch Road House. Patrick Swayze had a pretty nice setup. Plus, you get to watch Road House.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: KCFDcat on July 20, 2017, 05:37:54 PM
Just thinkin down the road.  We don't want people in our home so the shouse could facilitate that.  I'm just concerned about the kids feeling like vagabonds.  I want them to be comfortable in this transitional period.

I have a friend who did this, about halfway through he said eff it and decided to make it their permanent residence. I lol'd at him when he told me, but it's actually very nice. Looks like a barn from the outside tho.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 20, 2017, 10:28:30 AM
Do you guys like doing a lot of stuff after buying a house? Like, we seriously bought a finished home and Mrs wacky can't sit still. Lots of painting, buying house stuff, etc. Am I crazy for just wanting to relax the first month of buying our first home? I feel like many of these projects we're doing could wait.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 20, 2017, 10:30:56 AM
Do you guys like doing a lot of stuff after buying a house? Like, we seriously bought a finished home and Mrs wacky can't sit still. Lots of painting, buying house stuff, etc. Am I crazy for just wanting to relax the first month of buying our first home? I feel like many of these projects we're doing could wait.

If you put them off, they never get done. After about a year, you just dgaf anymore.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Tobias on October 20, 2017, 12:21:28 PM
she can't nest in someone else's house
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: star seed 7 on October 20, 2017, 12:28:12 PM
Sounds like wackycat08 just needs to hold out 11 more months
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 20, 2017, 01:13:45 PM
Anyone own/bought rentals? Thoughts? peggy po's/nancy negs?

yes.  negatives - they suck when sitting empty
positives - good money and tax benefits
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: ChiComCat on October 20, 2017, 01:17:28 PM
Do you guys like doing a lot of stuff after buying a house? Like, we seriously bought a finished home and Mrs wacky can't sit still. Lots of painting, buying house stuff, etc. Am I crazy for just wanting to relax the first month of buying our first home? I feel like many of these projects we're doing could wait.

If you put them off, they never get done. After about a year, you just dgaf anymore.

Yes and get bigger projects done before you fill your house with crap.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 20, 2017, 01:30:29 PM
We have a crap ton of chipmunks and squirrels on our property. I keep seeing chipmunks go into our garage in this little corner that they must have dug out. Can they do anything bad to your house? I ask this because we've had an uncarved pumpkin sitting on our porch for two weeks and somehow those little fuckers have dug a whole through that too.  :surprised:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: cfbandyman on October 20, 2017, 01:35:13 PM
Do you guys like doing a lot of stuff after buying a house? Like, we seriously bought a finished home and Mrs wacky can't sit still. Lots of painting, buying house stuff, etc. Am I crazy for just wanting to relax the first month of buying our first home? I feel like many of these projects we're doing could wait.

I thought like that too but after time I see more and more stuff I would like changed, altered, updated, improved, etc. Honestly this cats football season has been rough besides just the games by still having season tickets and going to all of them. I wish I had more of my weekend so I could at least have one day to relax, and another to do w/e minor project I can do in the interim. I find doing most minor stuff fairly therapeutic and it's nice when it's done cause you get to enjoy the fruits of labor.

Big projects agree you should get done sooner rather than later. But sometimes the $ ain't there.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 20, 2017, 01:41:19 PM
Yeah, ftr I think painting is therapeutic, it's the taping that pisses me off.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: star seed 7 on October 20, 2017, 01:44:22 PM
Psh, taping gmafb
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: yoga-like_abana on October 20, 2017, 01:46:25 PM
Anyone own/bought rentals? Thoughts? peggy po's/nancy negs?

yes.  negatives - they suck when sitting empty
positives - good money and tax benefits
luckily its not sitting empty  :emawkid: but the guy doesn't always pay on the first and sometimes I have to remind him.. I should start fining him but Im too nice
I hope the tax benefits are good!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: yoga-like_abana on October 20, 2017, 01:47:04 PM
anyone have recommendos for gutter guards. I've cleaned them out twice since April and I rough ridin' hate doing it
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 20, 2017, 01:47:58 PM
Psh, taping gmafb
When you have back problems, it's an issue being on your knees, bending down, etc. Also, I don't usually tape because I can cut in edges, but I have to dummy proof it for the Mrs.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: star seed 7 on October 20, 2017, 01:49:50 PM
Tell her to tape her own crap, men like us have no use for it
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: XocolateThundarr on October 20, 2017, 01:54:55 PM
We built a basketball court, chain link fenced the property, built a storage building, and put up a pool in the first year we lived in our new house.  Progress waits for no one.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: yoga-like_abana on October 20, 2017, 01:58:49 PM
I don't remember if I updated or not but my basement floors are done. Now I just have to put the trim back up. I don't really ever feel like it though
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 20, 2017, 02:14:52 PM
Psh, taping gmafb
When you have back problems, it's an issue being on your knees, bending down, etc. Also, I don't usually tape because I can cut in edges, but I have to dummy proof it for the Mrs.

she should be taping my god
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 20, 2017, 02:20:46 PM
She is. I'm the one who's barely done anything tbh. I do try and help her out however on the weekend so she can just focus on painting.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: mocat on October 20, 2017, 02:33:46 PM
everybody uses tape once then realizes wow i was super dumb that one time i used tape and i totally don't need it
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: cfbandyman on October 20, 2017, 02:40:49 PM
taping:painting::edging:mowing

Both taping and edging suck
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: mocat on October 20, 2017, 02:46:58 PM
The difference is edging is necessary if you don't want to have a clown yard
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: star seed 7 on October 20, 2017, 02:57:27 PM
I keep going back and forth on buying a trimmer or just buying grass killer for where the mower doesn't reach. 3 summer predicament, I'll mull it over this winter and maybe come to a decision
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: IPA4Me on October 20, 2017, 03:43:35 PM
I keep going back and forth on buying a trimmer or just buying grass killer for where the mower doesn't reach. 3 summer predicament, I'll mull it over this winter and maybe come to a decision
Caught this bad boy on sale two summers ago.

http://low.es/1UjCkl9
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: sys on October 20, 2017, 04:43:33 PM
the chipmunks are fine for your house.

pick a side, team squirrels or team chipmunks, and see what you can do to help your team win.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 20, 2017, 04:58:23 PM
chipmunks are cuter. Definitely #TeamChipmunks
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: cfbandyman on October 20, 2017, 06:22:29 PM
Chipmunks don't tear your yard as much. Squirrels are nut hiding bastards.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: cfbandyman on October 20, 2017, 06:25:00 PM
The difference is edging is necessary if you don't want to have a clown yard

Vs a clown paint job, unless you are on it with a rag.

Even though I got myself a electric edger (much quieter) I hate they make my arms feel like they still vibrate hours later, and when it's hot out it's either wear shorts and RIP shins or wear pants and sweat like a mofo.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: BW on October 20, 2017, 07:44:43 PM
Privacy fence. Anyone got a recommendation/cost est in KC? Holy crap the first bid I got.

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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Tobias on October 20, 2017, 07:45:10 PM
fly puni in from japan, he loves that crap
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: wetwillie on October 20, 2017, 08:08:25 PM
Unless you are building a new house GTFO
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: The Big Train on October 20, 2017, 08:16:35 PM
fly puni in from japan, he loves that crap

Man those were some good times in that(this?) thread
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: puniraptor on October 20, 2017, 08:53:23 PM
i did build a BITB fence

i hope it's still standing  :ohno:

Privacy fence. Anyone got a recommendation/cost est in KC? Holy crap the first bid I got.

if you have nine spare months and a couple grand, just DIY
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: puniraptor on October 20, 2017, 08:54:45 PM
my most important retrospective pro tip is to hire some bubba with a bobcat to dig all the holes
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: IPA4Me on October 21, 2017, 06:09:35 AM
Privacy fence. Anyone got a recommendation/cost est in KC? Holy crap the first bid I got.

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If you and a bud have a couple weekends to spare, rent the bobcat with hole digger attachment. Set posts one weekend and run boards the next.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: chum1 on October 21, 2017, 07:30:50 AM
I put up a fence myself on one house and had a contractor do it on another. I was much happier with the contractor's fence than I was with mine. It seems like the total cost of the contractor was about double the cost of the materials if I'd bought them myself. I never got a bid from a big fencing specialty company. I used some young dude that had been in the army for a few years and had been building decks and fences for a couple of years.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: puniraptor on October 21, 2017, 07:36:06 AM
my budget included tools

i got so many cool tools!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: IPA4Me on October 21, 2017, 07:39:51 AM
Tool collecting is part of the fun in home handyman projects.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: star seed 7 on October 21, 2017, 09:36:17 AM
Privacy fence. Anyone got a recommendation/cost est in KC? Holy crap the first bid I got.

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If you and a bud have a couple weekends to spare, rent the bobcat with hole digger attachment. Set posts one weekend and run boards the next.

I originally thought this was advice for wackycat08 and got a great mental image of him trying to operate a loader
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: IPA4Me on October 21, 2017, 09:42:39 AM
Privacy fence. Anyone got a recommendation/cost est in KC? Holy crap the first bid I got.

Sent from my VS987 using Tapatalk
If you and a bud have a couple weekends to spare, rent the bobcat with hole digger attachment. Set posts one weekend and run boards the next.

I originally thought this was advice for wackycat08 and got a great mental image of him trying to operate a loader
I'd love to see that video. Wacky v Skid Steer. A YouTube sensation.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Tobias on October 21, 2017, 09:46:16 AM
bobcat kickball, no negative consequences
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Post by: SdK on October 21, 2017, 09:50:06 AM
In all fairness, bobcats are crap. If it's not Case or CAT it can gtfoomf.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: SdK on October 21, 2017, 09:52:19 AM
That ass, tho. :love:(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171021/58ff2852be39be9b76abd911fa41a775.jpg)
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Post by: mhkpasa on October 23, 2017, 08:49:46 AM
Privacy fence. Anyone got a recommendation/cost est in KC? Holy crap the first bid I got.

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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Institutional Control on March 22, 2021, 09:55:58 AM
Well, having another house built.  The market down here is crazy and almost every house in our area is receiving 10-15 bids in the first weekend they’re listed. Most home builders have waitlists 2-6 months out and then 11 months to build. But we got really lucky and our realtor found a builder who had a house framed that the original buyer backed out of. It was still early enough that we able to change out tile and other finishes.


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Title: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on March 22, 2021, 09:58:20 AM
We are probably going to be building again in like the next 2-5 years. Or just buying a new place. Hopefully our last home until we are old and my children force me into a nursing home against my will.


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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Institutional Control on March 22, 2021, 11:06:22 AM
New house doesn't come with gutters.  Is that weird?  Seems weird to me.
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Post by: IPA4Me on March 22, 2021, 01:10:17 PM
No gutters? Is there a perimeter french drain?

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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Institutional Control on March 22, 2021, 01:40:43 PM
No gutters? Is there a perimeter french drain?

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Nope.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: IPA4Me on March 22, 2021, 02:25:20 PM
No gutters? Is there a perimeter french drain?

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Nope.
WTF?

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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on March 22, 2021, 02:44:26 PM
So water just pours off the roof wherever? Seems like maybe not a great thing


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Post by: sys on March 22, 2021, 02:49:41 PM
most houses locally don't have gutters.  i think it's normal in low rainfall areas.
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Post by: mocat on March 22, 2021, 02:50:54 PM
Your builder is in the pocket of BIG FOUNDATION REPAIR
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Post by: steve dave on March 22, 2021, 02:51:06 PM
Wild


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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: ben ji on March 22, 2021, 04:10:22 PM
My gutters partially detached from my roof about a week ago when we got a bunch of rain. Woke up in the morning, took a piss and looked out my bathroom window and I could see my gutter hanging off the house....wtf.

When It stopped raining I climbed up on the roof an it turns out some small sticks and buds from a tree had blocked one of my downspouts causing the water to pour over the edge and tear the gutter some of the screws that held it in. The only way my drill would let me get enough reach to screw the gutter back in was to lay on the roof with my arm hanging over the side. Luckily it was only 1 story and not a steep pitch.

So that was fun.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 28, 2021, 09:51:37 PM
We're in the buyers market again. About to turn a $50K profit from this spot to the next. Problem is, we're either looking south or west to get the bang for the buck. It has me feeling old as f, but also excited about how far We've came. More depressed about how far away I will eventually be from all the things I love about KC tho (downtown), but I'm at home 90% of the time either way these days by working from home and the kid. Looking into Shawnee, Desoto, Leawood, and the Blue Valley distract. The market is crazy right now. Saw an amazing house today for over $10K of what I have in mind and i'm afraid if we competed for it, I'd be a hermit. It was amaze! Any advice?
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Post by: nicname on April 28, 2021, 10:23:11 PM
pro gonna end up re-reading a lot of this thread. it's very fun. also reminds me of how great gooch and mrs gooch's place is, and how great it is for them.

also, 'grats wacky.

Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: IPA4Me on April 29, 2021, 06:08:46 AM
Older guy here that's now an empty nester.

Do you really need a bigger house? Is the difference in mortgage payments going to make a difference in your retirement? Maybe it could help fund a weekend cabin.

I have 3200 sq ft under roof. Could've raised the kids with half that and wouldn't be thinking about moving now. It's just two of us for 40 more years. Definitely don't need the space now

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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: chum1 on April 29, 2021, 07:44:57 AM
Yeah, sometimes I think about needing a big house down the road to accommodate grown kids and their families when they come visit. Other times, I think that it would be a MUCH better value to have a smaller place in a much cooler location and just put up the kids up in a hotel when they, let's face it, rarely visit.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on April 29, 2021, 07:52:48 AM
I'm going to build or buy a new house within the next few years. probably the last one ever for us. you know what's a giant PITA for this?

SCHOOL DISTRICTS!

 :curse:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 29, 2021, 08:10:06 AM
Older guy here that's now an empty nester.

Do you really need a bigger house? Is the difference in mortgage payments going to make a difference in your retirement? Maybe it could help fund a weekend cabin.

I have 3200 sq ft under roof. Could've raised the kids with half that and wouldn't be thinking about moving now. It's just two of us for 40 more years. Definitely don't need the space now

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All great questions. We're doing fine in this one. Wife has been asking for an upgrade for awhile and I could use a little more space. I don't think we're having anymore kids though, so it's kinda a forever home situation/what's a good school district for lil wacky.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 29, 2021, 08:16:50 AM
I'm going to build or buy a new house within the next few years. probably the last one ever for us. you know what's a giant PITA for this?

SCHOOL DISTRICTS!

 :curse:
Sorry, SD. Wrong thread.  :frown:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: nicname on April 29, 2021, 08:18:43 AM
I'm going to build or buy a new house within the next few years. probably the last one ever for us. you know what's a giant PITA for this?

SCHOOL DISTRICTS!

 :curse:

How and why?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on April 29, 2021, 08:44:06 AM
I'm going to build or buy a new house within the next few years. probably the last one ever for us. you know what's a giant PITA for this?

SCHOOL DISTRICTS!

 :curse:

How and why?

Because my kid is going into 3rd grade and has friends and crap and we love our school. so if I'm going to buy or build a new place it will be difficult for it to be in a different school district. And, we already live in the best neighborhood in our district so what am I supposed to do?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: star seed 7 on April 29, 2021, 08:49:31 AM
Why do you need a new one?
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Post by: steve dave on April 29, 2021, 08:51:36 AM
Why do you need a new one?
I don’t “need” one, I want one. I didn’t build this one with the intent of two people working from home. Would like two separate dedicated offices. Also a lot more first world problem wants.


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Post by: star seed 7 on April 29, 2021, 08:53:02 AM
Ok, well that makes sense
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Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 29, 2021, 08:54:53 AM
i heard the price of lumber is through the roof now. T's and P's to anyone about to build.
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 29, 2021, 08:55:08 AM
Why do you need a new one?
I don’t “need” one, I want one. I didn’t build this one with the intent of two people working from home. Would like two separate dedicated offices. Also a lot more first world problem wants.


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Same deal here
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Post by: star seed 7 on April 29, 2021, 09:00:04 AM
Yeah, sometimes I think about needing a big house down the road to accommodate grown kids and their families when they come visit. Other times, I think that it would be a MUCH better value to have a smaller place in a much cooler location and just put up the kids up in a hotel when they, let's face it, rarely visit.

Yeah, my mom lives so far out in the bay area burbs because she wanted a giant house for Christmas visits. Outside of maybe 4 weeks a year it's just her and her husband. I liked visiting better when she first moved there and had a two bedroom apartment a block from a BART stop.
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Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 29, 2021, 09:26:49 AM
i heard the price of lumber is through the roof now. T's and P's to anyone about to build.
CanCo
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 29, 2021, 09:33:08 AM
We're in the buyers market again. About to turn a $50K profit from this spot to the next. Problem is, we're either looking south or west to get the bang for the buck. It has me feeling old as f, but also excited about how far We've came. More depressed about how far away I will eventually be from all the things I love about KC tho (downtown), but I'm at home 90% of the time either way these days by working from home and the kid. Looking into Shawnee, Desoto, Leawood, and the Blue Valley distract. The market is crazy right now. Saw an amazing house today for over $10K of what I have in mind and i'm afraid if we competed for it, I'd be a hermit. It was amaze! Any advice?

That spread is like saying I am looking at Tulsa, Reno, San Francisco and the Northeast.

You need to get focused.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: nicname on April 29, 2021, 09:33:44 AM
Why do you need a new one?
I don’t “need” one, I want one. I didn’t build this one with the intent of two people working from home. Would like two separate dedicated offices. Also a lot more first world problem wants.


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Makes perfect sense. I can relate.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 29, 2021, 09:54:26 AM
We're in the buyers market again. About to turn a $50K profit from this spot to the next. Problem is, we're either looking south or west to get the bang for the buck. It has me feeling old as f, but also excited about how far We've came. More depressed about how far away I will eventually be from all the things I love about KC tho (downtown), but I'm at home 90% of the time either way these days by working from home and the kid. Looking into Shawnee, Desoto, Leawood, and the Blue Valley distract. The market is crazy right now. Saw an amazing house today for over $10K of what I have in mind and i'm afraid if we competed for it, I'd be a hermit. It was amaze! Any advice?

That spread is like saying I am looking at Tulsa, Reno, San Francisco and the Northeast.

You need to get focused.
I know.  :frown: Also, the house we liked yesterday, went for 40K over the asking price.  :frown: :lol: This market!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 29, 2021, 09:58:46 AM
We're in the buyers market again. About to turn a $50K profit from this spot to the next. Problem is, we're either looking south or west to get the bang for the buck. It has me feeling old as f, but also excited about how far We've came. More depressed about how far away I will eventually be from all the things I love about KC tho (downtown), but I'm at home 90% of the time either way these days by working from home and the kid. Looking into Shawnee, Desoto, Leawood, and the Blue Valley distract. The market is crazy right now. Saw an amazing house today for over $10K of what I have in mind and i'm afraid if we competed for it, I'd be a hermit. It was amaze! Any advice?

That spread is like saying I am looking at Tulsa, Reno, San Francisco and the Northeast.

You need to get focused.
I know.  :frown: Also, the house we liked yesterday, went for 40K over the asking price.  :frown: :lol: This market!
Bubble will burst soon again just like 08.. This is the worst time to buy other than interest rates
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: kstate4life on April 29, 2021, 10:00:04 AM
i heard the price of lumber is through the roof now. T's and P's to anyone about to build.

We are building in WA state, moving from Denver beginning of next year.  I pray everyday the builder padded the budget enough for the lumber prices. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 29, 2021, 10:02:58 AM
We're in the buyers market again. About to turn a $50K profit from this spot to the next. Problem is, we're either looking south or west to get the bang for the buck. It has me feeling old as f, but also excited about how far We've came. More depressed about how far away I will eventually be from all the things I love about KC tho (downtown), but I'm at home 90% of the time either way these days by working from home and the kid. Looking into Shawnee, Desoto, Leawood, and the Blue Valley distract. The market is crazy right now. Saw an amazing house today for over $10K of what I have in mind and i'm afraid if we competed for it, I'd be a hermit. It was amaze! Any advice?

That spread is like saying I am looking at Tulsa, Reno, San Francisco and the Northeast.

You need to get focused.
I know.  :frown: Also, the house we liked yesterday, went for 40K over the asking price.  :frown: :lol: This market!
Bubble will burst soon again just like 08.. This is the worst time to buy other than interest rates
Exactly what I'm worried about, as a tight ass, trying not to be a tight ass for once.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 29, 2021, 10:04:36 AM
Honestly would be a great time to sell and rent for a year or two
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Post by: steve dave on April 29, 2021, 10:07:21 AM
We're in the buyers market again. About to turn a $50K profit from this spot to the next. Problem is, we're either looking south or west to get the bang for the buck. It has me feeling old as f, but also excited about how far We've came. More depressed about how far away I will eventually be from all the things I love about KC tho (downtown), but I'm at home 90% of the time either way these days by working from home and the kid. Looking into Shawnee, Desoto, Leawood, and the Blue Valley distract. The market is crazy right now. Saw an amazing house today for over $10K of what I have in mind and i'm afraid if we competed for it, I'd be a hermit. It was amaze! Any advice?

That spread is like saying I am looking at Tulsa, Reno, San Francisco and the Northeast.

You need to get focused.
I know.  :frown: Also, the house we liked yesterday, went for 40K over the asking price.  :frown: :lol: This market!
Bubble will burst soon again just like 08.. This is the worst time to buy other than interest rates
I don’t know that I agree with this. At least the anything near what we saw in ‘08 part. WFH isn’t going back to pre-pandemic levels.


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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: nicname on April 29, 2021, 10:12:57 AM
Honestly would be a great time to sell and rent for a year or two

Was my thought but unsure about that actual numbers. SD, what type of market movement do you predict?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 29, 2021, 10:14:10 AM
We're in the buyers market again. About to turn a $50K profit from this spot to the next. Problem is, we're either looking south or west to get the bang for the buck. It has me feeling old as f, but also excited about how far We've came. More depressed about how far away I will eventually be from all the things I love about KC tho (downtown), but I'm at home 90% of the time either way these days by working from home and the kid. Looking into Shawnee, Desoto, Leawood, and the Blue Valley distract. The market is crazy right now. Saw an amazing house today for over $10K of what I have in mind and i'm afraid if we competed for it, I'd be a hermit. It was amaze! Any advice?

That spread is like saying I am looking at Tulsa, Reno, San Francisco and the Northeast.

You need to get focused.
I know.  :frown: Also, the house we liked yesterday, went for 40K over the asking price.  :frown: :lol: This market!
Bubble will burst soon again just like 08.. This is the worst time to buy other than interest rates
I don’t know that I agree with this. At least the anything near what we saw in ‘08 part. WFH isn’t going back to pre-pandemic levels.


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While I agree with that part build costs right now are at all time highs. There is not the shortage in lumber that there was last year due to shutdowns. Interest rates are low so new builds just keep going up and they will keep charging this astronomical prices as long as they can.  Lumber costs will eventually come back down to earth. It probably won't be as catastrophic as 08 but it will definitely happen. Shoot a deck that cost $950 in material in last year now costs roughly $2500
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on April 29, 2021, 10:44:44 AM
We're in the buyers market again. About to turn a $50K profit from this spot to the next. Problem is, we're either looking south or west to get the bang for the buck. It has me feeling old as f, but also excited about how far We've came. More depressed about how far away I will eventually be from all the things I love about KC tho (downtown), but I'm at home 90% of the time either way these days by working from home and the kid. Looking into Shawnee, Desoto, Leawood, and the Blue Valley distract. The market is crazy right now. Saw an amazing house today for over $10K of what I have in mind and i'm afraid if we competed for it, I'd be a hermit. It was amaze! Any advice?

That spread is like saying I am looking at Tulsa, Reno, San Francisco and the Northeast.

You need to get focused.
I know.  :frown: Also, the house we liked yesterday, went for 40K over the asking price.  :frown: :lol: This market!
Bubble will burst soon again just like 08.. This is the worst time to buy other than interest rates
I don’t know that I agree with this. At least the anything near what we saw in ‘08 part. WFH isn’t going back to pre-pandemic levels.


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While I agree with that part build costs right now are at all time highs. There is not the shortage in lumber that there was last year due to shutdowns. Interest rates are low so new builds just keep going up and they will keep charging this astronomical prices as long as they can.  Lumber costs will eventually come back down to earth. It probably won't be as catastrophic as 08 but it will definitely happen. Shoot a deck that cost $950 in material in last year now costs roughly $2500

yeah, build costs will certainly come down. but I don't see it being that big in existing homes.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 29, 2021, 10:53:02 AM
I think once interest rates start raising (which they will) those prices are going to come down as well.  Less people will be able to afford and qualify for the homes going at premium prices.
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Post by: steve dave on April 29, 2021, 10:57:02 AM
maybe. we shall see. good quick read on this topic.

https://awealthofcommonsense.com/2021/04/the-psychology-of-fighting-the-last-crash/

and podcast

https://open.spotify.com/episode/5RuaHREKIwEro78xmcsLjW?si=OxCd1HluS3G--i0_n69lUw
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: KST8FAN on April 29, 2021, 11:05:03 AM
Is there a help build a house on the farm thread?  Kids are gone and ready to cash out on the hot JoCo house market.  Do I buy a trailer or rent appt after selling and wait for lumber prices to come down?

Anyone with a good costing template for house building?  Is like our kitchen project get the estimates from home depot and then x2 after the wife adds multi changes?


Tom

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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on April 29, 2021, 11:09:33 AM
My parents irl hire a local group of mennonites every time they build/remodel. This is not helpful information for you obviously. but they do an incredible job and what would take a normal carpenter like 2 months takes them like 2 years so pluses and minuses there.


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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: star seed 7 on April 29, 2021, 11:10:48 AM
My aunt and uncle bought some Dallas exurb property and lived in the existing old farm house until their new compound was built (about 2 years). Now the old farm house is a guest house like 1/4 mile away so it's decently private.

Maybe try that Tom.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: KST8FAN on April 29, 2021, 12:01:57 PM
Unlike SD we have demolished all the homestead houses on the farm(s).  House, barn, silos all gone.

Backhoe guy is dropping my water hydrant in at the shop barn upgrade so I could live out of the barn with a portable toilet.  I've got AC.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210429/ab1761e8d72ed371874608c6e077b6d2.jpg)

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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: star seed 7 on April 29, 2021, 12:06:20 PM
There are a lot of dudes on surly who have built huge ranch home/toy barn hybrid metal buildings.
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Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 29, 2021, 01:00:36 PM
Another thing to think of.. wonder what will come of commercial properties as well.
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Post by: steve dave on April 29, 2021, 01:03:51 PM
Another thing to think of.. wonder what will come of commercial properties as well.

idea: we convert them to condos
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Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 29, 2021, 01:43:42 PM
I think once interest rates start raising (which they will) those prices are going to come down as well.  Less people will be able to afford and qualify for the homes going at premium prices.

Yep, interest rates are heading up you guys......any day now......better refinance now..........yep, going up for sure soon.........10 years later.......yep, gotta go up sometime.
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Post by: pissclams on April 29, 2021, 01:44:57 PM
Another thing to think of.. wonder what will come of commercial properties as well.

idea: we convert them to condos

or giant indoor laser tag coliseums
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 29, 2021, 01:46:56 PM
Is there a help build a house on the farm thread?  Kids are gone and ready to cash out on the hot JoCo house market.  Do I buy a trailer or rent appt after selling and wait for lumber prices to come down?

Anyone with a good costing template for house building?  Is like our kitchen project get the estimates from home depot and then x2 after the wife adds multi changes?


Tom

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A farm seems like a good spot for a Yurt (sp).
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on April 29, 2021, 02:03:06 PM
Farms are filthy with bugs and heat and wind and dirt and smells. Gotta hermetically seal your dwelling.


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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 29, 2021, 04:16:03 PM
Farms are filthy with bugs and heat and wind and dirt and smells. Gotta hermetically seal your dwelling.


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Serious question. What % of current farm dwellings are hermetically sealed? less than 1%?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: wetwillie on April 29, 2021, 06:21:09 PM
SD can you just go back to the office or have they kicked you out permanently?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: sys on April 29, 2021, 06:37:50 PM
maybe. we shall see. good quick read on this topic.

https://awealthofcommonsense.com/2021/04/the-psychology-of-fighting-the-last-crash/

and podcast

https://open.spotify.com/episode/5RuaHREKIwEro78xmcsLjW?si=OxCd1HluS3G--i0_n69lUw

i'm on team sd here.  there is large housing deficit, the economy is booming, a demographic bulge is hitting home buying age, interest rates are low and we don't have either the housebuilding capacity or the governmental will to build a lot of new housing quickly.  house prices are going up for a while yet.


did see somewhere that some boomer houses are built in areas and sizes unappealing to millennials, so you might be able to get a decent price on one of those, but they're probably houses in areas and sizes that are unappealing to you.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Spracne on April 29, 2021, 07:07:11 PM
What's a Milly to do??  :dunno:

I was planning on purchasing a house (home) this year, but it sure does feel like we're at, or near, the top of a ridiculous cycle. But as noted, there's no guarantee it won't stay like this for another [X] year(s). Other than going back in time, what's a Milly in the city to do?
Title: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on April 29, 2021, 08:14:47 PM
SD can you just go back to the office or have they kicked you out permanently?
I can if I want. I only have two employees here and the others are in KC. My Omaha employees both work from home but we go into the office to mess around from time to time. The KC ones work like 50/50 office/home but they can do 100% home if they want. Or 100% office. It’s flexible AF. But, I also own this budget and if I say I’m in the office 100% that’s out of my budget and it would blow you away what my expense allocation is for a full time office. Same with employees.

Also in normal times I’m flying around to exotic locales (Chicago, New York, Chicago, New York, Chicago, you name it really) about 25% of the time.


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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on April 29, 2021, 08:19:47 PM
What's a Milly to do??  :dunno:

I was planning on purchasing a house (home) this year, but it sure does feel like we're at, or near, the top of a ridiculous cycle. But as noted, there's no guarantee it won't stay like this for another [X] year(s). Other than going back in time, what's a Milly in the city to do?
I would not try to time it. If you want a place assume the market value is what it’s going to be IMO. A lot of people are going to try to “wait this out” and do a lot of waiting if I’m guessing.


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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: chum1 on April 29, 2021, 08:30:27 PM
It's one of the most important purchases you make. It's long term. There's only one (at a time, at least). Don't worry about trying to get a deal. Get what you want.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: catastrophe on April 29, 2021, 08:40:12 PM
I think there are very good reasons to wait to build/remodel. Only reason to wait to buy is the lack of listings right now, which I’ve seen suggested has a lot to do with letting strangers in during a pandemic. My guess is a lot more stuff will come in the market in the next few months and prices will self regulate a bit.

I certainly wouldn’t bank on a bubble bursting in the near future unless they (FINALLY) bring interest rates back up from the crapper.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Institutional Control on April 29, 2021, 10:28:09 PM
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Brick last week and cabinets and flooring this week.


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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on April 29, 2021, 10:52:28 PM
Looks great bro


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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: DaBigTrain on April 29, 2021, 11:01:25 PM
Yes looks really good. Obviously you chose correctly and invested your money in a house and not a phone because that is like flip phone level quality photo
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Spracne on April 29, 2021, 11:09:33 PM
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Brick last week and cabinets and flooring this week.


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Which soulless suburb did you go with?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: CNS on April 30, 2021, 08:21:59 AM
To those with the thought of waiting, a large part of the market is available labor.  Most contractors, of most kinds, are having a very hard time finding skilled labor right now.  I am trying to hire right now, have 104 applicants(indeed.com and craigslist) in the last two weeks, and not one has more than 1 year of experience and only 4 of them have any applicable experience.  In a company of 10 people, we have cycled through 7 guys in the last 18 months who came on with no experience, but with other construction experience, only to cycle them out for a few different reasons.  Literally every contractor in my network right now is having this problem.  On the job training is very expensive and takes a long time.  You are all paying for this now and anecdotally, this seems to be getting worse not better.

I hope the Gen Z'ers get back to thinking it's ok to find a trade.  If not, shits going to be expensive for a while.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: star seed 7 on April 30, 2021, 08:38:32 AM
I don't see any way zoomers go back to the trades.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Institutional Control on April 30, 2021, 08:53:13 AM
Yes looks really good. Obviously you chose correctly and invested your money in a house and not a phone because that is like flip phone level quality photo

The sales guy for the builder sent me the pic.   :lol:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Institutional Control on April 30, 2021, 08:53:41 AM
Which soulless suburb did you go with?

Celina
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 30, 2021, 09:42:06 AM
To those with the thought of waiting, a large part of the market is available labor.  Most contractors, of most kinds, are having a very hard time finding skilled labor right now.  I am trying to hire right now, have 104 applicants(indeed.com and craigslist) in the last two weeks, and not one has more than 1 year of experience and only 4 of them have any applicable experience.  In a company of 10 people, we have cycled through 7 guys in the last 18 months who came on with no experience, but with other construction experience, only to cycle them out for a few different reasons.  Literally every contractor in my network right now is having this problem.  On the job training is very expensive and takes a long time.  You are all paying for this now and anecdotally, this seems to be getting worse not better.

I hope the Gen Z'ers get back to thinking it's ok to find a trade.  If not, shits going to be expensive for a while.
Yep. Realizing I should've been a freaking electrician. Also is there any job more useless than a home inspector? Guys take like a 2 day course and don't have to be licensed its honestly unreal
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Spracne on April 30, 2021, 09:42:49 AM
Which soulless suburb did you go with?

Celina

Is that considered part of Oklahoma?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: star seed 7 on April 30, 2021, 09:43:31 AM
Electrician is definitely the cushiest trade job
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: ben ji on April 30, 2021, 10:08:27 AM
Yes looks really good. Obviously you chose correctly and invested your money in a house and not a phone because that is like flip phone level quality photo

 :lol:
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: ben ji on April 30, 2021, 10:13:13 AM
To those with the thought of waiting, a large part of the market is available labor.  Most contractors, of most kinds, are having a very hard time finding skilled labor right now.  I am trying to hire right now, have 104 applicants(indeed.com and craigslist) in the last two weeks, and not one has more than 1 year of experience and only 4 of them have any applicable experience.  In a company of 10 people, we have cycled through 7 guys in the last 18 months who came on with no experience, but with other construction experience, only to cycle them out for a few different reasons.  Literally every contractor in my network right now is having this problem.  On the job training is very expensive and takes a long time.  You are all paying for this now and anecdotally, this seems to be getting worse not better.

I hope the Gen Z'ers get back to thinking it's ok to find a trade.  If not, shits going to be expensive for a while.

My vagabond brother is currently working 6 days a week making $500 a day with free lodging down in the RGV building migrant detention centers. No construction experience.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: CNS on April 30, 2021, 10:53:02 AM
To those with the thought of waiting, a large part of the market is available labor.  Most contractors, of most kinds, are having a very hard time finding skilled labor right now.  I am trying to hire right now, have 104 applicants(indeed.com and craigslist) in the last two weeks, and not one has more than 1 year of experience and only 4 of them have any applicable experience.  In a company of 10 people, we have cycled through 7 guys in the last 18 months who came on with no experience, but with other construction experience, only to cycle them out for a few different reasons.  Literally every contractor in my network right now is having this problem.  On the job training is very expensive and takes a long time.  You are all paying for this now and anecdotally, this seems to be getting worse not better.

I hope the Gen Z'ers get back to thinking it's ok to find a trade.  If not, shits going to be expensive for a while.

My vagabond brother is currently working 6 days a week making $500 a day with free lodging down in the RGV building migrant detention centers. No construction experience.

Now add on the constant hurricane rebuilding, the rebuilding that will be needed throughout all of dumbass texas from frozen pipes, etc. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: michigancat on April 30, 2021, 11:18:16 AM
I hope the Gen Z'ers get back to thinking it's ok to find a trade.  If not, shits going to be expensive for a while.

I think the best way to get zoomers into trades is to pay trades more.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 30, 2021, 11:27:04 AM
I hope the Gen Z'ers get back to thinking it's ok to find a trade.  If not, shits going to be expensive for a while.

I think the best way to get zoomers into trades is to pay trades more.
Plumbers & electricians are about $80-90/hour in ole MHK
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: sys on April 30, 2021, 11:38:49 AM
Most contractors, of most kinds, are having a very hard time finding skilled labor right now.

immigration could solve this problem.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: sys on April 30, 2021, 11:40:57 AM
My vagabond brother is currently working 6 days a week making $500 a day with free lodging down in the RGV building migrant detention centers. No construction experience.

well, that about wraps it up.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: catastrophe on April 30, 2021, 11:51:24 AM
Most contractors, of most kinds, are having a very hard time finding skilled labor right now.

immigration could solve this problem.
Yes there are two painfully obvious solutions: (1) increase the cost until it balances with demand, or (2) stop acting like the only immigrants we “need” in this country are white collar doctors/scientists/whatever.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Spracne on April 30, 2021, 12:05:07 PM
I hope the Gen Z'ers get back to thinking it's ok to find a trade.  If not, shits going to be expensive for a while.

I think the best way to get zoomers into trades is to pay trades more.

Seems to me that the free market should be able to work this out.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: sys on April 30, 2021, 12:35:22 PM
i think it's more cultural than pay-based.  as yla said, a lot of construction jobs pay quite well, but there are a ton of cultural impediments that dissuade young people from pursuing those careers.  i can't think of a single person i know that was born to college-educated parents that went into a blue collar career.

but sticking to just wage/job conditions stuff - it is somewhat cyclical work, which may matter more in dissuading people from choosing to enter those fields than wages during good times.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: star seed 7 on April 30, 2021, 12:40:56 PM
I mumped around a lot when I was younger and worked construction because I didn't want any real responsibility. At about 30 I realized my body was already getting wrecked and I knew I didn't want to be in it for life and made a change. But sys is absolutely right, the people I worked with came from vastly different backgrounds than me and generally didn't have any other viable options. I'm very glad that I did have other options.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on April 30, 2021, 12:44:43 PM
A lot of jobs/careers make a lot of sense and seem incredible to people not in those fields. Grass is greener as they say, except a lot of green parts of the grass are measurable so I guess maybe not the best usage.


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Post by: chum1 on April 30, 2021, 01:00:55 PM
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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: michigancat on April 30, 2021, 06:43:27 PM
i think it's more cultural than pay-based.  as yla said, a lot of construction jobs pay quite well, but there are a ton of cultural impediments that dissuade young people from pursuing those careers.  i can't think of a single person i know that was born to college-educated parents that went into a blue collar career.

it's both pay and culture. obviously the pay isn't enough to overcome the cultural challenges (plus the fact that it can be very hard on your body and sometimes dangerous). But everyone has a price. And you're right, immigration would help a lot here.

also benji's brother is an example of someone with college educated parents who has a "career" in the trades
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: sys on April 30, 2021, 07:39:38 PM
there's definitely an interplay btwn wage and cultural factors, but i think the latter has the greater impact.  and it's not just college educated careers vs construction.  from my distant view, there appear to be a lot of blue collar jobs that pay much less than construction jobs that experience fewer or no worker shortages.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: michigancat on April 30, 2021, 07:55:46 PM
there's definitely an interplay btwn wage and cultural factors, but i think the latter has the greater impact.  and it's not just college educated careers vs construction.  from my distant view, there appear to be a lot of blue collar jobs that pay much less than construction jobs that experience fewer or no worker shortages.

Are those jobs lower skilled?

Anecdotally, right now it seems like tons of blue collar jobs are shorthanded and the employers are blaming the stimulus.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: KST8FAN on April 30, 2021, 08:03:00 PM
We buried my father in law today. Age 91. Career of farming and lumberyard man.  Built all 4 houses he lived in during his adult life.  Helped me finish our basement.  Specs for our barn he did for us in the farm thread.  Helped a sister in law build her house.  Every daughter and daughter in law had a hand built dry sink from him.

Oldest of 9 with 6 kids and 19 grandchildren. My wife's best memories are of them building the house they lived in on their farm.

Couldn't think of a better place to post this.


Tom

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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: star seed 7 on April 30, 2021, 08:17:12 PM
Sink pics? I bet that's pretty neat
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on April 30, 2021, 08:27:20 PM
We buried my father in law today. Age 91. Career of farming and lumberyard man.  Built all 4 houses he lived in during his adult life.  Helped me finish our basement.  Specs for our barn he did for us in the farm thread.  Helped a sister in law build her house.  Every daughter and daughter in law had a hand built dry sink from him.

Oldest of 9 with 6 kids and 19 grandchildren. My wife's best memories are of them building the house they lived in on their farm.

Couldn't think of a better place to post this.


Tom

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What a legacy left. Sorry Tom and glad you got to know this man.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: TheHamburglar on May 09, 2021, 02:13:44 PM
We buried my father in law today. Age 91. Career of farming and lumberyard man.  Built all 4 houses he lived in during his adult life.  Helped me finish our basement.  Specs for our barn he did for us in the farm thread.  Helped a sister in law build her house.  Every daughter and daughter in law had a hand built dry sink from him.

Oldest of 9 with 6 kids and 19 grandchildren. My wife's best memories are of them building the house they lived in on their farm.

Couldn't think of a better place to post this.


Tom

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Sorry to hear this Tom.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: TheHamburglar on May 09, 2021, 02:15:14 PM
Wet spots starting to appear in grout on kitchen floor. It’s a slab house, so we’re going to have to bust out 4-6 pieces of tile to find the leak. We don’t have anymore if that tile. House is 16 years old, so I’m not finding that tile. Looks like we’re getting a new kitchen floor.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: CNS on May 09, 2021, 04:01:56 PM
Wet spots starting to appear in grout on kitchen floor. It’s a slab house, so we’re going to have to bust out 4-6 pieces of tile to find the leak. We don’t have anymore if that tile. House is 16 years old, so I’m not finding that tile. Looks like we’re getting a new kitchen floor.

If you know the manufacturer and product name, there are tile stores that keep misc old stock for these exact situations. Call around for that first. Unless you just like the idea of a new floor.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: WonderMeal on October 10, 2021, 08:11:00 PM
Hey @SteveDave, how do I build a house? Anybody have good links/resources for...literally the entire process?

This would be a second house out on some sweet sweet land.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: CNS on October 11, 2021, 09:30:03 AM
1. Call a bank and get initial approval for a construction loan
2. Call contractor and tell him/her you want a house
3. Find a house plan, make one, or call an architect
4. Wait forever for your individual contractors to actually get around to your house in the next 18-24 mo
5. Move in
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: yoga-like_abana on October 11, 2021, 09:34:05 AM
1. Call a bank and get initial approval for a construction loan
2. Call contractor and tell him/her you want a house
3. Find a house plan, make one, or call an architect
4. Wait forever for your individual contractors to actually get around to your house in the next 18-24 mo
5. Move in
you forgot the part where they change their mind on what finishes they want and that delays things further and drives the cost up
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: WonderMeal on October 11, 2021, 12:08:45 PM
Sounds very easy and cheap. Thanks, goEMAW!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: OB_Won on October 11, 2021, 10:30:41 PM
1. Call a bank and get initial approval for a construction loan
2. Call contractor and tell him/her you want a house
3. Find a house plan, make one, or call an architect
4. Wait forever for your individual contractors to actually get around to your house in the next 18-24 mo
5. Move in
you forgot the part where they change their mind on what finishes they want and that delays things further and drives the cost up
You also forgot the part where the cost of materials and market price have shot up since the process began, so the builder voids your contract a couple weeks before move-in day unless you agree to pay an additional 20% or more.

https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/nbc-5-responds/home-buyers-facing-higher-prices-unexpected-cancelled-contracts-in-new-home-builds/2752426/ (https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/nbc-5-responds/home-buyers-facing-higher-prices-unexpected-cancelled-contracts-in-new-home-builds/2752426/)
Title: How much should this cost?
Post by: yoga-like_abana on October 14, 2021, 01:48:59 PM
called to get a bid for trenching for a line in a basement bathroom (about 4 ft section). $375. also cutting two egress windows out $375 each(not with dirt work and all of that) seems cheap AF to me though? Agreed?
It's amazing the different numbers you can get from various places.
Title: Re: How much should this cost?
Post by: Pete on October 14, 2021, 02:46:32 PM
called to get a bid for trenching for a line in a basement bathroom (about 4 ft section). $375. also cutting two egress windows out $375 each(not with dirt work and all of that) seems cheap AF to me though? Agreed?
It's amazing the different numbers you can get from various places.

So you are putting in a whole new basement bathroom or changing the layout of the bathroom?
Title: Re: How much should this cost?
Post by: yoga-like_abana on October 14, 2021, 03:27:19 PM
called to get a bid for trenching for a line in a basement bathroom (about 4 ft section). $375. also cutting two egress windows out $375 each(not with dirt work and all of that) seems cheap AF to me though? Agreed?
It's amazing the different numbers you can get from various places.

So you are putting in a whole new basement bathroom or changing the layout of the bathroom?
Changing layout and it currently has a wall mounted toilet which I'm not super crazy about. Finished layout change of upstairs bathroom so I figured why not be miserable again
Title: Re: How much should this cost?
Post by: CNS on October 15, 2021, 07:39:49 AM
called to get a bid for trenching for a line in a basement bathroom (about 4 ft section). $375. also cutting two egress windows out $375 each(not with dirt work and all of that) seems cheap AF to me though? Agreed?
It's amazing the different numbers you can get from various places.

Beware cheap numbers. Too good to be true almost always is. Especially when it comes to breaching the water integrity of your basement wall.

I mean, pretty much anyone can own a concrete saw.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Brock Landers on October 15, 2021, 12:17:27 PM
Those bids do sound fairly cheap.  Is the line itself included in that trenching bid?  I had to have my sewer line replaced a couple of years ago and IIRC the cost of the mini excavator was $90/hr on top of their normal labor of $60-70/hr.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Phil Titola on October 22, 2021, 09:45:50 AM
Is this where we ask for fridge recommendations?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on October 22, 2021, 09:48:31 AM
Is this where we ask for fridge recommendations?

I have had this one for like 8 years now and like it. It makes hot water for tea or soup or whatever which is probably the only thing special about it. I cannot comment on any others because I have not owned them. I guess I owned some entry level whirlpool one in my first house which was fine.

https://www.cafeappliances.com/appliance/Cafe-ENERGY-STAR-22-1-Cu-Ft-Smart-Counter-Depth-French-Door-Refrigerator-with-Hot-Water-Dispenser-CYE22TP2MS1?bvstate=pg:9/ct:r
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: ChiComCat on October 22, 2021, 09:50:15 AM
I'm dealing with some class action settlement from buying an LG 5 years ago that already had to be replaced and nobody around Manhattan would do warranty work on.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Phil Titola on October 22, 2021, 10:08:06 AM
I'm dealing with some class action settlement from buying an LG 5 years ago that already had to be replaced and nobody around Manhattan would do warranty work on.

Yeah I've kind of eliminated LG and Samsung. 
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Phil Titola on October 22, 2021, 10:09:10 AM
Is this where we ask for fridge recommendations?

I have had this one for like 8 years now and like it. It makes hot water for tea or soup or whatever which is probably the only thing special about it. I cannot comment on any others because I have not owned them. I guess I owned some entry level whirlpool one in my first house which was fine.

https://www.cafeappliances.com/appliance/Cafe-ENERGY-STAR-22-1-Cu-Ft-Smart-Counter-Depth-French-Door-Refrigerator-with-Hot-Water-Dispenser-CYE22TP2MS1?bvstate=pg:9/ct:r

I've never heard of this Cafe brand but they are keep popping up on my searches, thanks SD!
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: kstate4life on October 22, 2021, 10:14:25 AM
I'm dealing with some class action settlement from buying an LG 5 years ago that already had to be replaced and nobody around Manhattan would do warranty work on.

Yeah I've kind of eliminated LG and Samsung.

I am a big fan of LG.  I am on my third house, all LGs, never had a problem with any.  I had a whirlpool before that where the compressor went out after 3 years, had to just buy a new one.  Before buying the latest LG I did a ton of research and LG consistently has the best reviews on any site that sells them (if you take reviews as a buying requirement).  And obviously every brand is going to have a few lemons.

This is my newest one: craft ice in the freezer!  https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-23-5-cu-ft-french-door-counter-depth-refrigerator-with-craft-ice-printproof-stainless-steel/6395328.p?skuId=6395328

Also, I was looking for the biggest counter depth french door with a dual ice maker.  LG fit the bill.  And, the rest of the kitchen is KitchenAid, which makes the worst fridges on the market.  Do not buy one of those.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on October 22, 2021, 10:25:19 AM
Is this where we ask for fridge recommendations?

I have had this one for like 8 years now and like it. It makes hot water for tea or soup or whatever which is probably the only thing special about it. I cannot comment on any others because I have not owned them. I guess I owned some entry level whirlpool one in my first house which was fine.

https://www.cafeappliances.com/appliance/Cafe-ENERGY-STAR-22-1-Cu-Ft-Smart-Counter-Depth-French-Door-Refrigerator-with-Hot-Water-Dispenser-CYE22TP2MS1?bvstate=pg:9/ct:r

I've never heard of this Cafe brand but they are keep popping up on my searches, thanks SD!

It's just a line of GE. They try to hide that it's GE actually or something. we also have a monogram range and dishwasher which is another of their lines.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Phil Titola on October 22, 2021, 10:25:45 AM
Hell LG is now back on the list!  Samsung still out.  Heard bad things about their ice production.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: kstate4life on October 22, 2021, 10:34:31 AM
Hell LG is now back on the list!  Samsung still out.  Heard bad things about their ice production.

That is the biggest problem with KitchenAids too.  Plus the ice maker is in the fridge and not in the door, which takes up more space.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Justwin on October 22, 2021, 10:34:44 AM
Hell LG is now back on the list!  Samsung still out.  Heard bad things about their ice production.

Just to reinforce the Samsung is out idea, Samsung sucks. Have one where the ice maker went out a little under two years after we got it.  Got it replaced by Samsung because Costco has two-year manufacturer's warranty.  In September, at just under four years after we bought the fridge, the ice maker went out again.  Since we bought the fridge with the Costco Visa, we have a two-year extended warranty that starts after the manufacturer's warranty so it is covered.  The only issue is that nobody will come to work on the fridge.  Samsung told me there is no authorized service center within 100 miles that will come to look at the fridge.  We'll see what the warranty company says, but there is a decent chance they will just have to give us the purchase price of the fridge.
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Post by: ChiComCat on October 22, 2021, 10:46:55 AM
Hell LG is now back on the list!  Samsung still out.  Heard bad things about their ice production.

Still don't do LG if you're in Manhattan
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Post by: Phil Titola on October 22, 2021, 11:22:23 AM
I think I want dual ice makers, not sure about that 4th door thing above the fridge.  Want a smart version so I can monitor the temperature versus the janky smarthome sensor I have in my current fridge.
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Post by: star seed 7 on October 22, 2021, 11:24:42 AM
If you are monitoring your fridge temperature you need to get an effin life and that's coming from someone who has as little of a life as possible
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 22, 2021, 11:33:57 AM
If you are monitoring your fridge temperature you need to get an effin life and that's coming from someone who has as little of a life as possible

yeah, phil, what on earth?
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Post by: Skipper44 on October 22, 2021, 02:38:22 PM
I'm dealing with some class action settlement from buying an LG 5 years ago that already had to be replaced and nobody around Manhattan would do warranty work on.

Yeah I've kind of eliminated LG and Samsung.

I am a big fan of LG.  I am on my third house, all LGs, never had a problem with any.  I had a whirlpool before that where the compressor went out after 3 years, had to just buy a new one.  Before buying the latest LG I did a ton of research and LG consistently has the best reviews on any site that sells them (if you take reviews as a buying requirement).  And obviously every brand is going to have a few lemons.

This is my newest one: craft ice in the freezer!  https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-23-5-cu-ft-french-door-counter-depth-refrigerator-with-craft-ice-printproof-stainless-steel/6395328.p?skuId=6395328

Also, I was looking for the biggest counter depth french door with a dual ice maker.  LG fit the bill.  And, the rest of the kitchen is KitchenAid, which makes the worst fridges on the market.  Do not buy one of those.
how is the in-door ice dispenser? the ice dispenser on my 2018 LG French door sucks bad - it is constantly jammed with solid ice where the removeable hopper necks down to the dispenser. It is a major annoyance but it does fine with the other things a fridge should do
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Post by: steve dave on October 22, 2021, 02:53:44 PM
I have two electrolux under counter beverage centers. main floor in butler pantry/bar area and one in my basement bar. I like them a lot. so if their refrigerators are as good as the tiny ones I'd recommend them as well.
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 22, 2021, 03:16:44 PM
I have a mini-fridge that is like 20 years old and still works great. It was the cheapest one that the Manhattan Sears had on the first day I went to college at K-State. So if you are looking for longevity, maybe you could just stack 6 mini-fridges into 2 columns and go with that.
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Post by: yoga-like_abana on December 22, 2021, 09:23:49 AM
House is going to be turning 100 here soon. So tore out the carpets from previous owners and redoing original wood floors (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211222/c7684e58db4fe42898ee1d91176aaa45.jpg)


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Post by: yoga-like_abana on December 22, 2021, 09:27:26 AM
Also knocked one of my kids cars into ductwork so dug my hand in to try and get it.. didn’t find it but I do think I found the original vape pen (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211222/0bf1d8439cd98bd1d6f12299f1348ab1.jpg)


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Post by: star seed 7 on December 22, 2021, 09:36:37 AM
Lol. When I was in Jr high I helped my parents remodel the basement. When I demo'd out the bedroom down there (a sweet room with a beach mural on one wall) I found a bunch of condoms hidden behind the door trim in the closet from the high school age previous occupant.

Then when we remodeled the upper floor I found a coke scale and other paraphernalia hidden behind the closet baseboard in a different bedroom.
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Post by: Brock Landers on December 22, 2021, 09:59:53 AM
House is going to be turning 100 here soon. So tore out the carpets from previous owners and redoing original wood floors (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211222/c7684e58db4fe42898ee1d91176aaa45.jpg)


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Either one of those bottom 2 stains look good and the middle one is best IMO.  The top one looks like you're smearing a dirt/poop combo on to your floor.
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Post by: star seed 7 on December 22, 2021, 10:02:36 AM
It's definitely definitely #3 imo :th_twocents:
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Post by: IPA4Me on December 22, 2021, 10:05:03 AM
#3 is oh so nice.

The carpet festival of the 70s and 80s was criminal. So much beautiful hardwood covered unnecessarily.

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Post by: Spracne on December 22, 2021, 12:09:43 PM
House is going to be turning 100 here soon. So tore out the carpets from previous owners and redoing original wood floors (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211222/c7684e58db4fe42898ee1d91176aaa45.jpg)


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Either one of those bottom 2 stains look good and the middle one is best IMO.  The top one looks like you're smearing a dirt/poop combo on to your floor.

Totally agree with this. Both 2 and 3 are acceptable, but 2 looks a bit more contemporary to me.
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Post by: WillieWatanabe on December 22, 2021, 03:02:18 PM
#2
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Post by: steve dave on December 22, 2021, 03:05:55 PM
eff it, #1
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Post by: IPA4Me on December 22, 2021, 03:17:25 PM
SD likes smeared poop.
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Post by: XocolateThundarr on December 22, 2021, 03:33:53 PM
They all look the same to me.
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Post by: passranch on December 22, 2021, 03:37:27 PM
#3
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Post by: yoga-like_abana on December 23, 2021, 05:17:28 PM
Correct answer…


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Post by: yoga-like_abana on December 23, 2021, 05:17:54 PM
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Deuce


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Post by: IPA4Me on December 23, 2021, 05:38:42 PM
Very nice.

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Post by: yoga-like_abana on December 23, 2021, 07:48:16 PM
Thanks!


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Post by: Katpappy on December 23, 2021, 08:43:10 PM
yla, did you sand and seal before applying the stain?  Looks nice, but noticed a scar in the wood.
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Post by: steve dave on December 23, 2021, 09:33:09 PM
Yeah, I also noticed that it looks like crap
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Post by: nicname on February 08, 2022, 01:27:48 PM
Is it worth the money saved on re-finishing hardwood floor is your DIY? Cost to have it done professionally would be about 1200 bucks
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Post by: star seed 7 on February 08, 2022, 01:30:23 PM
What's the condition?
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Post by: nicname on February 08, 2022, 01:36:18 PM
What's the condition?

Just lived in. Regular wear and tear over the past 5-6 years. No real damage or deep cuts. Imo needs a good sanding and a couple coats of finish.
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Post by: star seed 7 on February 08, 2022, 01:46:07 PM
That's pretty ez stuff imo
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Post by: nicname on February 08, 2022, 01:51:03 PM
That's pretty ez stuff imo

My opinion as well. Would have to rent a sander and buy the finish, but would prob save most of the cost.
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Post by: IPA4Me on February 08, 2022, 01:51:42 PM
Quite simple.

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Post by: star seed 7 on February 08, 2022, 01:58:22 PM
The worst part is sanding the edges but you have like a 10yr (?) old for that crap
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Post by: nicname on February 08, 2022, 02:44:32 PM
The worst part is sanding the edges but you have like a 10yr (?) old for that crap

Yeah. 12!
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Post by: 8manpick on May 03, 2022, 07:25:38 AM
Speaking of smeared poop…

Either my sewage ejector pump failed or there is a blockage between my house and the sewer.  Poop and TP had come out the overflow along the side of the house yesterday.  Hopefully the plumber can figure it out today.  Currently afraid to flush or shower.

Never related quite so well to the “not that kind of lawyer (engineer)” line.
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Post by: XocolateThundarr on May 03, 2022, 08:09:51 AM
Speaking of smeared poop…

Either my sewage ejector pump failed or there is a blockage between my house and the sewer.  Poop and TP had come out the overflow along the side of the house yesterday.  Hopefully the plumber can figure it out today.  Currently afraid to flush or shower.

Never related quite so well to the “not that kind of lawyer (engineer)” line.

My money is on a blocked service line between your house and the main.  It is also possible that the main is blocked and is backing up into your service line.  Either way, it's a shitty situation.
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Post by: steve dave on May 03, 2022, 08:11:18 AM
Thank you CHOCOLATE THUNDER
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Post by: XocolateThundarr on May 03, 2022, 08:14:41 AM
Thank you CHOCOLATE THUNDER

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Post by: yoga-like_abana on May 03, 2022, 09:55:53 AM
half of my sunday was spent helping a buddy break out his old cast iron lines and replacing. Glad it was his house and not mine. He's also an engineer and my lord all engineers are dorks. freaking overanalyze everything
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Post by: XocolateThundarr on May 03, 2022, 11:50:23 AM
half of my sunday was spent helping a buddy break out his old cast iron lines and replacing. Glad it was his house and not mine. He's also an engineer and my lord all engineers are dorks. freaking overanalyze everything

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Post by: Institutional Control on May 03, 2022, 12:25:27 PM
The joys of home ownership.

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Post by: Stupid Fitz on May 03, 2022, 12:30:48 PM
The joys of home ownership.

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the hell is going on there? you should totally put a canoe out there and take a pic in it.
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Post by: Institutional Control on May 03, 2022, 12:38:29 PM
Storm drain in front of our house is constantly blocked and any significant amount rain causes the sand and dirt from new construction up the hill to settle in my yard, drive and street.  Yesterday morning was worse because it was trash day and the rain dumped a dozen or so trash bins in front of my house along with their trash.
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Post by: bucket on May 03, 2022, 12:52:52 PM
Storm drain in front of our house is constantly blocked and any significant amount rain causes the sand and dirt from new construction up the hill to settle in my yard, drive and street.  Yesterday morning was worse because it was trash day and the rain dumped a dozen or so trash bins in front of my house along with their trash.

This your new place?
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Post by: Institutional Control on May 03, 2022, 12:57:50 PM
Storm drain in front of our house is constantly blocked and any significant amount rain causes the sand and dirt from new construction up the hill to settle in my yard, drive and street.  Yesterday morning was worse because it was trash day and the rain dumped a dozen or so trash bins in front of my house along with their trash.

This your new place?

Yes.
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Post by: yoga-like_abana on May 03, 2022, 01:03:41 PM
Pretty awesome to have a river front property if you think about it


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Post by: Institutional Control on May 03, 2022, 01:13:47 PM
This is the picture my neighbor took Sunday night.

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Post by: Stupid Fitz on May 03, 2022, 01:18:17 PM
This is the picture my neighbor took Sunday night.

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Ha, that is pretty amazing. I bet you can post some doozies in the next-door/facebook thread.
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Post by: WillieWatanabe on May 03, 2022, 01:33:43 PM
wow!
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Post by: passranch on May 03, 2022, 05:02:24 PM
Looks just like Venice!
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Post by: ben ji on May 03, 2022, 05:52:12 PM
Storm drain in front of our house is constantly blocked and any significant amount rain causes the sand and dirt from new construction up the hill to settle in my yard, drive and street.  Yesterday morning was worse because it was trash day and the rain dumped a dozen or so trash bins in front of my house along with their trash.
Throwing out a hail Mary here but maybe check the storm drain every once in a while to make sure it's not blocked?

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Post by: star seed 7 on May 03, 2022, 07:43:56 PM
Sic the city on the construction company and make them put some rough ridin' silt fence in
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Post by: schreds21 on May 03, 2022, 10:36:30 PM
Pretty awesome to have a lazy river front property if you think about it


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Post by: mocat on May 04, 2022, 06:08:10 AM
Every time I see a suburban Texas neighborhood I am always shocked at how suburban Texas neighborhood-y it is
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Post by: CNS on May 04, 2022, 07:43:41 AM
Sic the city on the construction company and make them put some rough ridin' silt fence in

If you want to really get their asses, get on the municipality’s codes and development webpage and you can find standardized construction drawing showing how silt fence and area drains are supposed to be protected per local codes. Then go take pictures of the area drains and the construction sites. Then go to city hall and compare with Codes Inspectors.
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Post by: Institutional Control on May 04, 2022, 08:03:31 AM
Storm drain in front of our house is constantly blocked and any significant amount rain causes the sand and dirt from new construction up the hill to settle in my yard, drive and street.  Yesterday morning was worse because it was trash day and the rain dumped a dozen or so trash bins in front of my house along with their trash.
Throwing out a hail Mary here but maybe check the storm drain every once in a while to make sure it's not blocked?

I feel like I am constantly removing trash from the storm drain. 
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Post by: Institutional Control on May 04, 2022, 08:04:48 AM
Sic the city on the construction company and make them put some rough ridin' silt fence in

I spoke to a building inspector with the city yesterday and he is putting a hold on all their inspections until they a.) clean up the mess in the street and b.) add additional silt fencing.
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Post by: star seed 7 on May 04, 2022, 08:28:40 AM
Every time I see a suburban Texas neighborhood I am always shocked at how suburban Texas neighborhood-y it is

I feel this
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Post by: mocat on May 04, 2022, 09:10:29 AM
ot here but does anybody know anybody with a basement in dfw? is the lack of basements due to the expansive clay?
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Post by: steve dave on May 04, 2022, 09:15:11 AM
ot here but does anybody know anybody with a basement in dfw? is the lack of basements due to the expansive clay?

none in Tulsa OK
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Post by: Institutional Control on May 04, 2022, 09:16:22 AM
I have never seen a basement in a house in DFW.
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Post by: Spracne on May 04, 2022, 10:56:47 AM
I have never seen a basement in a house in DFW.

Nor have I, as long as we're excluding split-levels and walk-outs. Nowhere in Texas, in fact.
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 09, 2022, 11:22:33 AM
Remodel cats:  Where do I get the best value for 5 ish bathroom vanities?
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Post by: yoga-like_abana on May 09, 2022, 11:30:58 AM
Remodel cats:  Where do I get the best value for 5 ish bathroom vanities?
Find the model(s) you like and then google search for them. I've seen massive price difference between sites.
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Post by: Skipper44 on May 10, 2022, 12:04:45 PM
Remodel cats:  Where do I get the best value for 5 ish bathroom vanities?
find it on wayfair but buy from Walmart works on furnishings
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Post by: CNS on May 10, 2022, 05:03:20 PM
Remodel cats:  Where do I get the best value for 5 ish bathroom vanities?

Do you want bullshit or a good price on quality stuff?  If the former, where evs.  If the later, there is most likely a good cabinet guy locally that would give you a price better than expected on a well built design, since you have 5 of them.  If west side of KC, I have a guy I could recommend that is a full time KCK fire fighter that runs a cabinet shop biz for local custom builders that does fantastic stuff for rates much better than I expected originally. 

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Post by: Stupid Fitz on July 19, 2022, 02:11:04 PM
Friends. I have a bit of a mouse problem and I don't want a cat. I've caught like 5 of these little bastards in my unfinished basement. I'm thinking I should prob just get someone to come out and take care of it for me. Anyone have any recommendations? I don't really want one of those national companies that always knock on my door trying to sell me a monthly service that is just going to give us all cancer. Any recommendos in the PV/Fairway area are appreciated. thanks
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Post by: sys on July 19, 2022, 02:53:51 PM
Friends. I have a bit of a mouse problem and I don't want a cat. I've caught like 5 of these little bastards in my unfinished basement. I'm thinking I should prob just get someone to come out and take care of it for me. Anyone have any recommendations? I don't really want one of those national companies that always knock on my door trying to sell me a monthly service that is just going to give us all cancer. Any recommendos in the PV/Fairway area are appreciated. thanks

killing off the current mice isn't likely to be much of a solution unless you find and block off wherever it is that they're entering through.


you don't need poison for mice, btw.  traps work really well on them.  they love to get trapped.
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Post by: Stupid Fitz on July 19, 2022, 03:25:32 PM
Friends. I have a bit of a mouse problem and I don't want a cat. I've caught like 5 of these little bastards in my unfinished basement. I'm thinking I should prob just get someone to come out and take care of it for me. Anyone have any recommendations? I don't really want one of those national companies that always knock on my door trying to sell me a monthly service that is just going to give us all cancer. Any recommendos in the PV/Fairway area are appreciated. thanks

killing off the current mice isn't likely to be much of a solution unless you find and block off wherever it is that they're entering through.


you don't need poison for mice, btw.  traps work really well on them.  they love to get trapped.

Yeah, this is what I read. I'll just be catching them all the time. I'd rather just have someone come and take care of it.
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Post by: _33 on July 19, 2022, 03:51:27 PM
Sys, can snakes climb stairs? (doubtful since they don't have feet or knees) He could put one in the basement to eat the mice.
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Post by: ChiComCat on July 19, 2022, 04:57:53 PM
Glue traps solved the problem for me and then I just left them down there to make sure it was solved (mine seemed like a one-time thing).  Mouse traps were pretty worthless.
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Post by: wetwillie on July 19, 2022, 05:10:57 PM
The traps they make that go over a 5 gallon bucket are really good at bulk mouse trappin.
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Post by: sys on July 19, 2022, 05:35:53 PM
Sys, can snakes climb stairs?

yeah.
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Post by: Katpappy on July 19, 2022, 09:35:22 PM
They can climb trees, my son.  :ohno:
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Post by: Stupid Fitz on July 20, 2022, 09:44:10 AM
Glue traps solved the problem for me and then I just left them down there to make sure it was solved (mine seemed like a one-time thing).  Mouse traps were pretty worthless.

I have those alligator traps and am catching the crap out of them. I'd rather them die quick than get stuck and starve or have to hit them with a hammer. I was pretty nervous early on. One of the traps was just missing. We looked everywhere and it was just gone. I thought we had a big one or a rat so I bought a big rat trap. Turns out it was just a little one that got caught by the foot and he dragged it in between some boxes. Poor little guy. I did hope that his screams for help would ward off his friends and family, but I caught another one a day later.  :cry:
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Post by: Spracne on July 20, 2022, 02:57:22 PM
Glue traps solved the problem for me and then I just left them down there to make sure it was solved (mine seemed like a one-time thing).  Mouse traps were pretty worthless.

I have those alligator traps and am catching the crap out of them. I'd rather them die quick than get stuck and starve or have to hit them with a hammer. I was pretty nervous early on. One of the traps was just missing. We looked everywhere and it was just gone. I thought we had a big one or a rat so I bought a big rat trap. Turns out it was just a little one that got caught by the foot and he dragged it in between some boxes. Poor little guy. I did hope that his screams for help would ward off his friends and family, but I caught another one a day later.  :cry:

If you're willing to genocide an entire community of mice for the sake of the quiet enjoyment of your abode, just own your barbarous acts. No need to feign sympathy.
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Post by: Stupid Fitz on July 20, 2022, 03:11:11 PM
Glue traps solved the problem for me and then I just left them down there to make sure it was solved (mine seemed like a one-time thing).  Mouse traps were pretty worthless.

I have those alligator traps and am catching the crap out of them. I'd rather them die quick than get stuck and starve or have to hit them with a hammer. I was pretty nervous early on. One of the traps was just missing. We looked everywhere and it was just gone. I thought we had a big one or a rat so I bought a big rat trap. Turns out it was just a little one that got caught by the foot and he dragged it in between some boxes. Poor little guy. I did hope that his screams for help would ward off his friends and family, but I caught another one a day later.  :cry:

If you're willing to genocide an entire community of mice for the sake of the quiet enjoyment of your abode, just own your barbarous acts. No need to feign sympathy.

can I borrow your cat or not?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Spracne on July 20, 2022, 04:36:00 PM
Glue traps solved the problem for me and then I just left them down there to make sure it was solved (mine seemed like a one-time thing).  Mouse traps were pretty worthless.

I have those alligator traps and am catching the crap out of them. I'd rather them die quick than get stuck and starve or have to hit them with a hammer. I was pretty nervous early on. One of the traps was just missing. We looked everywhere and it was just gone. I thought we had a big one or a rat so I bought a big rat trap. Turns out it was just a little one that got caught by the foot and he dragged it in between some boxes. Poor little guy. I did hope that his screams for help would ward off his friends and family, but I caught another one a day later.  :cry:

If you're willing to genocide an entire community of mice for the sake of the quiet enjoyment of your abode, just own your barbarous acts. No need to feign sympathy.

can I borrow your cat or not?

Only if you promise to keep her or get rid of her.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Stupid Fitz on July 21, 2022, 08:41:58 AM
Glue traps solved the problem for me and then I just left them down there to make sure it was solved (mine seemed like a one-time thing).  Mouse traps were pretty worthless.

I have those alligator traps and am catching the crap out of them. I'd rather them die quick than get stuck and starve or have to hit them with a hammer. I was pretty nervous early on. One of the traps was just missing. We looked everywhere and it was just gone. I thought we had a big one or a rat so I bought a big rat trap. Turns out it was just a little one that got caught by the foot and he dragged it in between some boxes. Poor little guy. I did hope that his screams for help would ward off his friends and family, but I caught another one a day later.  :cry:

If you're willing to genocide an entire community of mice for the sake of the quiet enjoyment of your abode, just own your barbarous acts. No need to feign sympathy.

can I borrow your cat or not?

Only if you promise to keep her or get rid of her.

no deal
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: KST8FAN on June 18, 2023, 09:34:51 AM
So... piggybacking on another SD thread.  Thinking of doing one of these at the farm for get away weekends and eventual move there after retiring.  Thoughts?

https://mortonbuildings.com/projects/home-cabin


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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: michigancat on June 18, 2023, 10:12:11 AM
So... piggybacking on another SD thread.  Thinking of doing one of these at the farm for get away weekends and eventual move there after retiring.  Thoughts?

https://mortonbuildings.com/projects/home-cabin


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What are the advantages over a regular house
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Spracne on June 18, 2023, 02:01:47 PM
I built one of those in the Epilogue part of RDR2.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: star seed 7 on June 18, 2023, 05:31:50 PM
Spoiler alert
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: 8manpick on June 19, 2023, 01:21:43 PM
Found this in the basement utility room today. How screwed am I? Burn the house down and start over?

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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: 'taterblast on June 19, 2023, 01:33:19 PM
whaaat the fuuuuck is that man
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Spracne on June 19, 2023, 01:45:03 PM
What's above that?
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: OB_Won on June 19, 2023, 01:49:42 PM
What's above that?
If toilet Then
     burn down house
Else
     repair
End If
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: 8manpick on June 19, 2023, 02:40:45 PM
What's above that?
If toilet Then
     burn down house
Else
     repair
End If
Not directly, but not far off. Probably 5 feet from bathroom above
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: ben ji on June 19, 2023, 03:48:53 PM
Pretty sure an alien was just birthed into your basement.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Spracne on June 19, 2023, 04:21:13 PM
What's above that?
If toilet Then
     burn down house
Else
     repair
End If
Not directly, but not far off. Probably 5 feet from bathroom above

I mean, you can see all the copper pipes running up into that area. You got a bad leak, brah. It's concerning that it's right next to electrical. I'd spend some coin to have a pro investigate.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: schreds21 on June 19, 2023, 08:57:58 PM
Not 100% sure that vent for the hot water heater is exactly legal either.   Could be wrong though.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: yoga-like_abana on June 20, 2023, 01:40:00 PM
If you cut that out yourself I would definitely wear a good mask. I'd bet that copper pipe has a pinhole leak in it.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: KST8FAN on June 20, 2023, 06:45:07 PM
I built one of those in the Epilogue part of RDR2.
Help me out, Spracs.  I don't speak fluent goEMAW.


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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: Spracne on June 20, 2023, 06:55:41 PM
I built one of those in the Epilogue part of RDR2.
Help me out, Spracs.  I don't speak fluent goEMAW.


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No worries. It's a niche reference to a video game called Red Dead Redemption 2 that I know some of our residents have played.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: TheHamburglar on July 08, 2023, 12:22:36 AM
I think we’re going to put a mini-split in the garage.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: wiley on July 08, 2023, 10:59:02 AM
I think we’re going to put a mini-split in the garage.
I’ve been on the fence about this one as well
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: TheHamburglar on July 08, 2023, 11:11:28 AM
I think we’re going to put a mini-split in the garage.
I’ve been on the fence about this one as well
We just ran 220V & Mrs. Hamburg got a lathe. We have an oversized 3 car garage & we’re reorganizing the 3rd bay around the lathe. I’m pretty excited about the mini-split.
Title: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: wiley on July 08, 2023, 12:01:58 PM
I think we’re going to put a mini-split in the garage.
I’ve been on the fence about this one as well
We just ran 220V & Mrs. Hamburg got a lathe. We have an oversized 3 car garage & we’re reorganizing the 3rd bay around the lathe. I’m pretty excited about the mini-split.
Similar situation.  I have a 2 car garage with an expanded bay in one side (10’x15’).  I use it as my wfh setup + garagre related work bench.  The garage is a pretty nice temp until it gets into the 90’s then it sucks.  This seems like the best solution i’ve been presented.  I have access to mobile ac unit, but I don’t want to lose any floor space.

I would prefer to put my workspace in the basement.  But it’s unfinished and i just dumped 40k on new windows in the entire house.  So that’s on hold while we replenish savings
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: TheHamburglar on July 08, 2023, 06:12:44 PM
I have no idea when you’re supposed to get new windows. I have hard time believing it’s just insulation. That’s a lot of gas/electricity bills being 20% lower to get a ROI back of $25k-$40k.
Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: steve dave on July 08, 2023, 09:13:41 PM
Do your old windows still work? If so you don’t need new ones.


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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: IPA4Me on July 09, 2023, 06:04:10 AM
Do your old windows still work? If so you don’t need new ones.


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Unless you have single pane energy hogs, SD is right as usual.

Best bang for your buck is to pop the trim and seal the window with non expanding foam. That's where the energy loss is for most modern windows (built since 1980s).

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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: wiley on July 09, 2023, 08:22:18 AM
Do your old windows still work? If so you don’t need new ones.


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Yeah, ours were about 35 years old, failing, and were starting to fall apart.  We had 1 or 2 that might have been salvageable, but at the end of the day all were replaced.


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Title: Re: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: wetwillie on July 09, 2023, 09:03:16 AM
How many windows did you get replaced for the 40k?
Title: Help Steve Dave Build A House (NOW HELP HIM TAKE CARE OF IT)
Post by: wiley on July 09, 2023, 09:45:15 AM
How many windows did you get replaced for the 40k?
18  But of course, nothing was remotely standard.

Some had to be tempered because they are so close to the floor.

And then we did triple pane on all windows facing west (6 of them).  We have 2 bedrooms and an office that gets no shade once the sun is at its highest until sunset.  So those rooms have the highest range of temperatures compared to the rest of the house.

Then our master has a large single opening that houses 3 windows.  We could have gone a cheaper route saving us some decent money, but the interior designer of the house veto’d the look.

We got a significantly lower quote from window world, but felt better about the windows we got from this other company.