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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #125 on: December 14, 2012, 02:39:48 PM »
btw, you can have your gun debate if you want, but the real question is how rough ridin' hard would it be to put a bullet-proof entryway and buzzer at the door of every school?  we'll never protect everyone from everything everywhere, but we should at least be willing to do everything we can to protect our children at their rough ridin' school. this was rough ridin' preventable and a pretty easy fix. goddamit. eff.

Nobody will fund that.  They don't fund schools as is.  Also, I picture a horrific scene with a gunman in the hallway and people not buzzing students in for fear of the gunman getting in.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #126 on: December 14, 2012, 02:40:35 PM »
btw, you can have your gun debate if you want, but the real question is how rough ridin' hard would it be to put a bullet-proof entryway and buzzer at the door of every school?  we'll never protect everyone from everything everywhere, but we should at least be willing to do everything we can to protect our children at their rough ridin' school. this was rough ridin' preventable and a pretty easy fix. goddamit. eff.

real question is could this guy have killed 30 people without a gun.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #127 on: December 14, 2012, 02:41:07 PM »
People driving cars kill thousands each year, so ban cars

Drunk people kill thousands each year, so ban alcohol

People kill thousands each year, blame something else

Cars are designed to transport people and things. A gun's sole purpose is to kill.

Well, since drunk drivers kill people every year, maybe we should just make it legal, since we haven't eliminated it completely? And it's not like we spend a lot of money on campaigns advertising people not to drink and drive...

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #128 on: December 14, 2012, 02:42:17 PM »
People driving cars kill thousands each year, so ban cars

Drunk people kill thousands each year, so ban alcohol

People kill thousands each year, blame something else

Cars are designed to transport people and things. A gun's sole purpose is to kill.

Well, since drunk drivers kill people every year, maybe we should just make it legal, since we haven't eliminated it completely? And it's not like we spend a lot of money on campaigns advertising people not to drink and drive...

A gun is cheap power, and power corrupts.

Gun sole purpose is not to kill. It can be used to kill, if a person using it chooses to do so.
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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #129 on: December 14, 2012, 02:43:31 PM »
btw, you can have your gun debate if you want, but the real question is how rough ridin' hard would it be to put a bullet-proof entryway and buzzer at the door of every school?  we'll never protect everyone from everything everywhere, but we should at least be willing to do everything we can to protect our children at their rough ridin' school. this was rough ridin' preventable and a pretty easy fix. goddamit. eff.

real question is could this guy have killed 30 people without a gun.
are you saying you have a strategy to effectively get rid of all of the guns in this country?
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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #130 on: December 14, 2012, 02:44:32 PM »
btw, you can have your gun debate if you want, but the real question is how rough ridin' hard would it be to put a bullet-proof entryway and buzzer at the door of every school?  we'll never protect everyone from everything everywhere, but we should at least be willing to do everything we can to protect our children at their rough ridin' school. this was rough ridin' preventable and a pretty easy fix. goddamit. eff.

real question is could this guy have killed 30 people without a gun.
are you saying you have a strategy to effectively get rid of all of the guns in this country?

do whatever the UK did :dunno:

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #131 on: December 14, 2012, 02:44:32 PM »
btw, you can have your gun debate if you want, but the real question is how rough ridin' hard would it be to put a bullet-proof entryway and buzzer at the door of every school?  we'll never protect everyone from everything everywhere, but we should at least be willing to do everything we can to protect our children at their rough ridin' school. this was rough ridin' preventable and a pretty easy fix. goddamit. eff.

We have tons of soldiers overseas that could be used as security for schools.  I don't really want to get into a discussion on that though, just spitballing

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #132 on: December 14, 2012, 02:44:46 PM »
Gun sole purpose is not to kill. It can be used to kill, if a person using it chooses to do so.

What are the other purposes?

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #133 on: December 14, 2012, 02:45:20 PM »
btw, you can have your gun debate if you want, but the real question is how rough ridin' hard would it be to put a bullet-proof entryway and buzzer at the door of every school?  we'll never protect everyone from everything everywhere, but we should at least be willing to do everything we can to protect our children at their rough ridin' school. this was rough ridin' preventable and a pretty easy fix. goddamit. eff.

real question is could this guy have killed 30 people without a gun.
are you saying you have a strategy to effectively get rid of all of the guns in this country?
are you saying the answer is to keep producing guns and ammunition at the current rate?

or are guns completely irrelevant to the topic of gun related crime?


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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #134 on: December 14, 2012, 02:45:43 PM »
People driving cars kill thousands each year, so ban cars

Drunk people kill thousands each year, so ban alcohol

People kill thousands each year, blame something else

Cars are designed to transport people and things. A gun's sole purpose is to kill.

Well, since drunk drivers kill people every year, maybe we should just make it legal, since we haven't eliminated it completely? And it's not like we spend a lot of money on campaigns advertising people not to drink and drive...

A gun is cheap power, and power corrupts.

Gun sole purpose is not to kill. It can be used to kill, if a person using it chooses to do so.

What other purpose does it serve, then?

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #135 on: December 14, 2012, 02:46:17 PM »
btw, you can have your gun debate if you want, but the real question is how rough ridin' hard would it be to put a bullet-proof entryway and buzzer at the door of every school?  we'll never protect everyone from everything everywhere, but we should at least be willing to do everything we can to protect our children at their rough ridin' school. this was rough ridin' preventable and a pretty easy fix. goddamit. eff.

real question is could this guy have killed 30 people without a gun.
are you saying you have a strategy to effectively get rid of all of the guns in this country?
are you saying the answer is to keep producing guns and ammunition at the current rate?

durrrr 2nd amendment!!! durrrrrr

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Re: Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #136 on: December 14, 2012, 02:49:22 PM »
Getting stupid in here

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Re: Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #137 on: December 14, 2012, 02:51:19 PM »
I can't think of a reason why principals and teachers shouldn't have guns. Seriously, put a safe in the teachers lounge, give a couple responsible trained people the code, some idiot tries this, Principal runs to safe, hands out guns to teachers.... the guy is done for.

A poorly trained teacher militia spraying bullets in schools will solve everything.  I've been saying this for awhile

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #138 on: December 14, 2012, 02:53:26 PM »
People driving cars kill thousands each year, so ban cars

Drunk people kill thousands each year, so ban alcohol

People kill thousands each year, blame something else

Cars are designed to transport people and things. A gun's sole purpose is to kill.

Well, since drunk drivers kill people every year, maybe we should just make it legal, since we haven't eliminated it completely? And it's not like we spend a lot of money on campaigns advertising people not to drink and drive...

A gun is cheap power, and power corrupts.

Gun sole purpose is not to kill. It can be used to kill, if a person using it chooses to do so.
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Have a shot gun. Never killed a person. Never killed a animal. Use it for skeet shooting. Am I a monster?
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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #139 on: December 14, 2012, 02:55:49 PM »
btw, you can have your gun debate if you want, but the real question is how rough ridin' hard would it be to put a bullet-proof entryway and buzzer at the door of every school?  we'll never protect everyone from everything everywhere, but we should at least be willing to do everything we can to protect our children at their rough ridin' school. this was rough ridin' preventable and a pretty easy fix. goddamit. eff.

real question is could this guy have killed 30 people without a gun.
are you saying you have a strategy to effectively get rid of all of the guns in this country?
are you saying the answer is to keep producing guns and ammunition at the current rate?

or are guns completely irrelevant to the topic of gun related crime?
whoa whoa whoa.  don't peg me as a pro-gun guy.  I'm a realist.  the reality is that there's no effective way to rid the country of the millions of guns that are floating around right now.  if you want to talk about new gun regulations, I think that's a very important debate that we need to be having.  new gun regulations aren't going to stop shootings like these any time soon.  there's a lot of guns out there and a never ending supply of demand for those guns...whether it's legal or not.  increased security at the front doors of our nations schools isn't that hard of a fix and is doable immediately.

but yes, regulating and limiting what types of guns and ammo can be produced and in what quantities would be a great first step.
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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #140 on: December 14, 2012, 02:56:00 PM »
People driving cars kill thousands each year, so ban cars

Drunk people kill thousands each year, so ban alcohol

People kill thousands each year, blame something else

Cars are designed to transport people and things. A gun's sole purpose is to kill.

Well, since drunk drivers kill people every year, maybe we should just make it legal, since we haven't eliminated it completely? And it's not like we spend a lot of money on campaigns advertising people not to drink and drive...

A gun is cheap power, and power corrupts.

Gun sole purpose is not to kill. It can be used to kill, if a person using it chooses to do so.

What other purpose does it serve, then?

Skeet shooting, Target shooting, Collecting.
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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #141 on: December 14, 2012, 02:58:47 PM »
This is not an issue of gun control or living in a gun culture.  This is an issue of parents putting their kids in front of a TV/video game instead of spending time with them.  This is an issue of single parent families working 16 hour days leaving kids at home to fend for themselves.   People are spending the early stages of their lives without some sort of meaningful human interaction or connection to anyone.   People that know what love is do not resort to this type of violence. 

People in this very thread are referring to this guy as a dead beat/gun nut/loser/etc.   He didn’t get that way by having a fantastic family life. Maybe people will come out and say “he had loving parents, this isn’t like him, etc etc”  But maybe people thinking his childhood was just peachy is just evidence of how low our standards are.  People are quick to point out that this type of thing doesn’t happen in Canada or whatever other country has strict gun control – but what is their home life like?  What are the rates of single parents raising children / teen pregnancy rates / abortion rates / etc. 

This just seems so evident of what the problem is, and is exemplified by everyone’s reactions.  Instead of looking to each other with sympathy and wanting to run and hug our children or anyone close by really – we argue and fight over crap that doesn’t even matter.  “Gun control will limit the damage” Is that honestly an argument?   Fixing a home life or a child’s up bringing cannot be fixed with legislation.  This problem will not go away by means of some law.   And arguing over the cook killing the housekeeper with the candlestick applies a smoke screen to the real issue.
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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #142 on: December 14, 2012, 02:59:19 PM »
People driving cars kill thousands each year, so ban cars

Drunk people kill thousands each year, so ban alcohol

People kill thousands each year, blame something else

Cars are designed to transport people and things. A gun's sole purpose is to kill.

Well, since drunk drivers kill people every year, maybe we should just make it legal, since we haven't eliminated it completely? And it's not like we spend a lot of money on campaigns advertising people not to drink and drive...

A gun is cheap power, and power corrupts.

Gun sole purpose is not to kill. It can be used to kill, if a person using it chooses to do so.

What other purpose does it serve, then?

Skeet shooting, Target shooting, Collecting.

that's just practicing and saving up for killing. collect baseball cards if you need to compensate for something.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #143 on: December 14, 2012, 02:59:47 PM »
People driving cars kill thousands each year, so ban cars

Drunk people kill thousands each year, so ban alcohol

People kill thousands each year, blame something else

Cars are designed to transport people and things. A gun's sole purpose is to kill.

Well, since drunk drivers kill people every year, maybe we should just make it legal, since we haven't eliminated it completely? And it's not like we spend a lot of money on campaigns advertising people not to drink and drive...

A gun is cheap power, and power corrupts.

Gun sole purpose is not to kill. It can be used to kill, if a person using it chooses to do so.
:blank:

Have a shot gun. Never killed a person. Never killed a animal. Use it for skeet shooting. Am I a monster?
Seem selfish.

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Re: Another school shooting
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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #145 on: December 14, 2012, 03:02:56 PM »
People driving cars kill thousands each year, so ban cars

Drunk people kill thousands each year, so ban alcohol

People kill thousands each year, blame something else

Cars are designed to transport people and things. A gun's sole purpose is to kill.

Well, since drunk drivers kill people every year, maybe we should just make it legal, since we haven't eliminated it completely? And it's not like we spend a lot of money on campaigns advertising people not to drink and drive...

A gun is cheap power, and power corrupts.

Gun sole purpose is not to kill. It can be used to kill, if a person using it chooses to do so.

What other purpose does it serve, then?

Skeet shooting, Target shooting, Collecting.

that's just practicing and saving up for killing. collect baseball cards if you need to compensate for something.

I would rather blame the eff ups that kill people than the implement of there terror.
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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #146 on: December 14, 2012, 03:05:48 PM »
People driving cars kill thousands each year, so ban cars

Drunk people kill thousands each year, so ban alcohol

People kill thousands each year, blame something else

Cars are designed to transport people and things. A gun's sole purpose is to kill.

Well, since drunk drivers kill people every year, maybe we should just make it legal, since we haven't eliminated it completely? And it's not like we spend a lot of money on campaigns advertising people not to drink and drive...

A gun is cheap power, and power corrupts.

Gun sole purpose is not to kill. It can be used to kill, if a person using it chooses to do so.

What other purpose does it serve, then?

Skeet shooting, Target shooting, Collecting.

that's just practicing and saving up for killing. collect baseball cards if you need to compensate for something.

I would rather blame the eff ups that kill people than the implement of there terror.

nobody isn't blaming them. there's a rough ridin' shitload of blame to be passed around.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #147 on: December 14, 2012, 03:09:46 PM »
People driving cars kill thousands each year, so ban cars

Drunk people kill thousands each year, so ban alcohol

People kill thousands each year, blame something else

Cars are designed to transport people and things. A gun's sole purpose is to kill.

Well, since drunk drivers kill people every year, maybe we should just make it legal, since we haven't eliminated it completely? And it's not like we spend a lot of money on campaigns advertising people not to drink and drive...

A gun is cheap power, and power corrupts.

Gun sole purpose is not to kill. It can be used to kill, if a person using it chooses to do so.

What other purpose does it serve, then?

Skeet shooting, Target shooting, Collecting.

that's just practicing and saving up for killing. collect baseball cards if you need to compensate for something.

I would rather blame the eff ups that kill people than the implement of there terror.

nobody isn't blaming them. there's a rough ridin' shitload of blame to be passed around.

Really? I blame solely this rough rider to killed these people. Why does it have to be more for some people.

Do you blame the planes that kill the people during 9/11? Me I blame the terrorist.
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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #148 on: December 14, 2012, 03:10:32 PM »
Frank Martin ?@FrankMartin_SC
remember u went 2 school & learned respect,discipline & life skills. school building was a safe haven. N our country thats no longer da case

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #149 on: December 14, 2012, 03:11:00 PM »
Very sad :(