Another school shooting

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

So while the liberals blather about giving 16yos the right to vote, putting all gun owners on a national registry, and banning/confiscating guns, I’m going to focus on all the ways law enforcement failed us. They can’t prevent all of these shootings, or maybe even most of them, but they should have stopped this one. They failed in so, so many ways, right up to when the bullets started flying.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/broward/article201636649.html The cowardly fuckface never even entered the school.

[Phil Titola]

So while the liberals blather about giving 16yos the right to vote, putting all gun owners on a national registry, and banning/confiscating guns, I’m going to focus on all the ways law enforcement failed us. They can’t prevent all of these shootings, or maybe even most of them, but they should have stopped this one. They failed in so, so many ways, right up to when the bullets started flying.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/broward/article201636649.html The cowardly fuckface never even entered the school.

Given this, where you at on giving guns to teachers, gym coaches, maintenance men, counselors?

[DQ12]

I don't understand why the background check system sucks so much.  Why aren't states and the military branches reporting crimes to the FBI to put into the system?  This law already exists but it sucks because the data is so incomplete.  Incredibly frustrating.  Get off your asses and do your jobs. 

Also, the NRA's justification for opposing expanded background checks based on the inadequacy of the current background check system is bananas.  Both are problems that need fixing.  Fix them both.   

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

So while the liberals blather about giving 16yos the right to vote, putting all gun owners on a national registry, and banning/confiscating guns, I’m going to focus on all the ways law enforcement failed us. They can’t prevent all of these shootings, or maybe even most of them, but they should have stopped this one. They failed in so, so many ways, right up to when the bullets started flying.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/broward/article201636649.html The cowardly fuckface never even entered the school.

Given this, where you at on giving guns to teachers, gym coaches, maintenance men, counselors?

I don’t think that’s going to “solve” the problem but, if carefully implemented, it probably wouldn’t hurt and might even save lives.

[Phil Titola]

So while the liberals blather about giving 16yos the right to vote, putting all gun owners on a national registry, and banning/confiscating guns, I’m going to focus on all the ways law enforcement failed us. They can’t prevent all of these shootings, or maybe even most of them, but they should have stopped this one. They failed in so, so many ways, right up to when the bullets started flying.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/broward/article201636649.html The cowardly fuckface never even entered the school.

Given this, where you at on giving guns to teachers, gym coaches, maintenance men, counselors?

I don’t think that’s going to “solve” the problem but, if carefully implemented, it probably wouldn’t hurt and might even save lives.

More carefully implemented than the cop?  JFC man, we have evidence right here of this nonsense plan not working with an armed cop being there but you think your English teacher packing heat is going to do anything but make a bigger mess of things?  Wow.

coming from a law enforcement family I understand the amount of training they go through and how hard decisions are to shoot/not shoot in a situation that doesn't include a mass amount of innocents...this is a bad idea

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Banning AR-15s is idiotic. I'm not a gun owner but I have talked to many knowledgeable gun owners, including current and former military, and there is nothing about the AR-15 that makes it a superior "mass shooting" weapon over virtually any other modern hunting rifle.

No rough ridin' way you believe this crap. It is designed to kill as quickly and lethally as possible right down to the round. the round is designed to tumble when entering flesh causing as much damage as possible without being a hollow point round. This is due to the Geneva convention banning hollow points in war time use. This gun is strictly a military person killing machine.

You’re wrong. The AR-15 is course very dangerous, just not more so than many many other rifles. Less in some cases.

https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/339519002

Dean Hazen, owner of The Gun Experts in Mahomet, Ill., and a master firearms instructor, said the reason mass shooters are turning to the AR-15 is due to a "copy-cat" mentality more than any feature of the rifle.

"It’s really just a perception thing," Hazen said. "There are rifles that are more powerful and more dangerous than that, but they're not being used."

Hazen said the AR-15 has "gotten a bad rap." He believes mass shooters generally don't know much about guns and choose the AR-15 because of the reputation it has gotten from being used in other mass shootings.

"Thank God they don't know any better because if they did they would use much more effective weapons," Hazen said.

https://www.npr.org/2018/02/15/586172062/why-the-ar-15-is-americas-rifle

Oh, the VT killer (the worst school mass shooting in modern history)? Used a couple of pistols.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

So while the liberals blather about giving 16yos the right to vote, putting all gun owners on a national registry, and banning/confiscating guns, I’m going to focus on all the ways law enforcement failed us. They can’t prevent all of these shootings, or maybe even most of them, but they should have stopped this one. They failed in so, so many ways, right up to when the bullets started flying.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/broward/article201636649.html The cowardly fuckface never even entered the school.

Given this, where you at on giving guns to teachers, gym coaches, maintenance men, counselors?

I don’t think that’s going to “solve” the problem but, if carefully implemented, it probably wouldn’t hurt and might even save lives.

More carefully implemented than the cop?  JFC man, we have evidence right here of this nonsense plan not working with an armed cop being there but you think your English teacher packing heat is going to do anything but make a bigger mess of things?  Wow.

coming from a law enforcement family I understand the amount of training they go through and how hard decisions are to shoot/not shoot in a situation that doesn't include a mass amount of innocents...this is a bad idea

Im not sure what I said that has you so indignant, so let’s take it a piece at a time.
1. I said arming faculty wasn’t going to solve school shootings.
2. I said if carefully implemented (safeguards being put in place) it probably wouldn’t hurt.
3. It might help. Neither you nor I know with certainty whether it would or not.

[Phil Titola]

lol, gotcha

[puniraptor]

everyone please prepare your talking points for the first time an armed teacher smokes their classroom

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

everyone please prepare your talking points for the first time an armed teacher smokes their classroom

That could happen now, whether or not legally permitted to carry in school....

[puniraptor]

everyone please prepare your talking points for the first time an armed teacher smokes their classroom

That could happen now, whether or not legally permitted to carry in school....

ok the first talking point has been delivered: "there was nothing preventing a teacher from shooting their children in the past. the only way to stop a bad teacher with a gun is a good teacher with a gun. at least our children now have a fighting chance!"

I rate it medium/low. 3/7

[Phil Titola]

Only one teacher smoked their students...remember that time in 2018 when 17 shootings happened in 2 months?  Net -16!

[mocat]

everyone please prepare your talking points for the first time an armed teacher smokes their classroom

That could happen now, whether or not legally permitted to carry in school....

ok the first talking point has been delivered: "there was nothing preventing a teacher from shooting their children in the past. the only way to stop a bad teacher with a good is a good teacher with a gun. at least our children now have a fighting chance!"

I rate it medium/low. 3/7

[puniraptor]

everyone please prepare your talking points for the first time an armed teacher smokes their classroom

That could happen now, whether or not legally permitted to carry in school....

ok the first talking point has been delivered: "there was nothing preventing a teacher from shooting their children in the past. the only way to stop a bad teacher with a gun is a good teacher with a gun. at least our children now have a fighting chance!"

I rate it medium/low. 3/7

[catastrophe]

1. Saying the AR-15 (the weapon of choice in many recent mass shootings) should not be banned because there are better guns for committing mass murder is probably the dumbest talking point I’ve seen referenced in this thread so far.

2. Please read the “best the avoid all cops thread” before discussing the merits of arming school teachers.

[The Big Train]

Well to be fair KSUW is probably the dumbest person ITT so it makes sense

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

1. Saying the AR-15 (the weapon of choice in many recent mass shootings) should not be banned because there are better guns for committing mass murder is probably the dumbest talking point I’ve seen referenced in this thread so far.

2. Please read the “best the avoid all cops thread” before discussing the merits of arming school teachers.

I thought this was obvious, but I’m saying that banning the AR-15 will have no impact on mass shootings because there are dozens of other rifles that can do the same damn thing. There is nothing inherently worse about the AR-15. It is the most popular rifle in America so it’s not a big surprise that it is frequently used in horrific shootings.

[SkinnyBenny]

Great. Ban it and all other guns capable of mowing down 25 first graders in a matter of seconds.

[catastrophe]

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[Cire]

pretty sure there's no data to suggest that more guns causes less violence.


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[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Great. Ban it and all other guns capable of mowing down 25 first graders in a matter of seconds.

Did you miss the part about the VT shooter?

[Cire]

https://news.stanford.edu/2017/12/07/new-study-analyzes-recent-gun-violence-research/


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[Cire]

The analysis by John Donohue, a professor of law at Stanford, and Philip J. Cook at Duke University published Dec. 7 in Science reports some emerging consensus in the studies. Among the findings was that lifting restrictions on concealed carry guns increases violent crime and that laws restricting gun ownership for people convicted of domestic violence reduced killings of female domestic partners.


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[Cire]

Take that ksw's red neck gun friends


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[The Big Train]

Guys, you can’t reason with stupidity. Seriously, you can’t do it.