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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4300 on: February 14, 2018, 11:20:25 PM »
I'm only surprised the numbers aren't larger
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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4301 on: February 14, 2018, 11:32:18 PM »
I last got into this thread in January 2013 on page 55.  How many episodes did I miss?  I'm guessing they're all pretty repetitive.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4302 on: February 15, 2018, 06:58:08 AM »
That tweet can't even be remotely true.  Can it?

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4303 on: February 15, 2018, 07:07:39 AM »
If you have kids just rest assured that people acknowledge the problem and are taking action

Your children have been covered with T’s & P’s, they’ll be fine. Bubba has a constitutional right to own a firearm that can shoot 1200 rounds faster than he can write his own name.


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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4304 on: February 15, 2018, 07:26:11 AM »
I last got into this thread in January 2013 on page 55.  How many episodes did I miss?  I'm guessing they're all pretty repetitive.

Congrats?  Must have made you feel good to type that out.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4305 on: February 15, 2018, 07:28:03 AM »
FBI/law enforcement was warned about this guy months ago.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4306 on: February 15, 2018, 07:44:59 AM »
What can guns be recycled into?

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4307 on: February 15, 2018, 07:58:36 AM »


Man, Laurence Tribe has gone a little nutty. He used to be a brilliant law professor.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning.  They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4308 on: February 15, 2018, 08:27:17 AM »
FBI/law enforcement was warned about this guy months ago.
At least we have someone to blame and can move on.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4309 on: February 15, 2018, 08:29:14 AM »
FBI/law enforcement was warned about this guy months ago.

The fake news fbi? Pft
Hyperbolic partisan duplicitous hypocrite

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Re: Another school shooting
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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4311 on: February 15, 2018, 08:30:32 AM »
https://twitter.com/realjoshuahall/status/963946540015521793


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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4312 on: February 15, 2018, 08:31:49 AM »
Surprising that this guy didn’t use a flood to do his damage or at the very least poison
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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4313 on: February 15, 2018, 08:33:38 AM »
https://twitter.com/realjoshuahall/status/963946540015521793

Holy crap, the replies.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4314 on: February 15, 2018, 08:44:05 AM »
https://twitter.com/greenfield64/status/963908153325772800

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That number is incredibly misleading.  Everytown defines a school shooting as "any time a firearm discharges a live round inside a school building or on a school campus or grounds".  This includes many instances where a gun was fired but no one was injured.  It also includes suicides and solo confrontations like the one at Wake Forest, where a football player was killed during an argument at a sorority house on campus.

The true number is closer to 3.  Obviously that is 3 too many.



https://everytownresearch.org/school-shootings/5837/

I don't see why it is misleading since the point was about comparison.  It's no less appalling if it had said 3 school shootings in the last 18 years everywhere else vs. 3 in the last 35 days in the U.S.


It's misleading because it inflates a statistic with incidents that most people wouldn't classify as a "school shooting".  Including things like suicide and accidental discharge into the numbers serves no other purpose than to push a particular viewpoint.

I agree that any number is terrible and something needs to change. But I think we're better off approaching problems with honesty and truth rather than doctoring numbers in an attempt to persuade people.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4315 on: February 15, 2018, 08:46:05 AM »
https://twitter.com/realjoshuahall/status/963946540015521793


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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4316 on: February 15, 2018, 08:47:04 AM »
I also enjoy the "private citizens aren't funding enough research" argument.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4317 on: February 15, 2018, 08:59:11 AM »
repeat memes and politicians

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4318 on: February 15, 2018, 09:01:00 AM »
It's way too soon to repeat memes and politicians guys
Hyperbolic partisan duplicitous hypocrite

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4319 on: February 15, 2018, 09:04:21 AM »
We've tried everything guys, nothing can be done. Kids being slaughtered in schools is just a fact of life.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4320 on: February 15, 2018, 09:05:53 AM »
How many kids got slaughtered last year in schools?
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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4321 on: February 15, 2018, 09:09:18 AM »
I've generally been skeptical that tighter gun control laws would do much about these issues, and I still am, but sheesh we gotta try something.  Someone lay out some common sense gun legislation for me that they think would make a dent in these shootings.  Or if you don't want to that's fine I guess I'll do some research later.

Like I said I still think there are other, more significant factors, that are playing a role in this spike of shootings but this is a nuanced problem and it seems like it might be a good idea to try a holistic approach with common sense gun control being a part of that. 

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4322 on: February 15, 2018, 09:13:25 AM »
How many kids got slaughtered last year in schools?

My unofficial count is 6 in 2017 unless someone has an official number.   
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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4323 on: February 15, 2018, 09:15:36 AM »
NHTSA estimates about 130 per year die in school transportation related accidents.
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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4324 on: February 15, 2018, 09:17:07 AM »
How many kids got slaughtered last year in schools?

My unofficial count is 6 in 2017 unless someone has an official number.

My unofficial count is 42.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/02/15/us/school-shootings-sandy-hook-parkland.html