Another school shooting

[star seed 7]

oh so it's easier to kill animals with a gun. makes sense I guess.

Lol

[wetwillie]

I have multiple subcontractors that shoot/reel in 90% of all meat their family eats.  They like it, but are also in a low earnings sitch.  They keep themselves there, but again, they claim to like it. 

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Hunted meat is far less economical than clipping coupons and shopping at aldi or something similar.

That isn't always the case.  A resident elk tag might be ~$50 for 300 pounds of the very best quality meat (no hormones, no steroids, no anti-biotics, etc). 

If I had known elk meat was available for .17/lb I would have been hunting my ass iff years ago.

It's not.  The cost to have that butchered is probably $300-$500.  Then you have to transport it frozen.  The low cost above would only be right if you owned land that you hunted, then cleaned and butchered it yourself.

No that cost applies to an elk taken on public land by a resident hunter of most western states.  And yes self butchered which isn't that difficult, and certainly something someone who was very cost sensitive would learn to do themselves.

Could I haul this thing off in my 98 camry somehow?

Access to an SUV would be better.  You'll need at least one 130 quart cooler to get it home, and honestly you'd rather have two coolers to keep the ice/meat ratio better. 

Sounds expensive, but I guess maybe a handful of the 300+ million people in this country could maybe break even hunting an elk. 

[Emo EMAW]

I have multiple subcontractors that shoot/reel in 90% of all meat their family eats.  They like it, but are also in a low earnings sitch.  They keep themselves there, but again, they claim to like it. 

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Hunted meat is far less economical than clipping coupons and shopping at aldi or something similar.

That isn't always the case.  A resident elk tag might be ~$50 for 300 pounds of the very best quality meat (no hormones, no steroids, no anti-biotics, etc). 

If I had known elk meat was available for .17/lb I would have been hunting my ass iff years ago.

It's not.  The cost to have that butchered is probably $300-$500.  Then you have to transport it frozen.  The low cost above would only be right if you owned land that you hunted, then cleaned and butchered it yourself.

No that cost applies to an elk taken on public land by a resident hunter of most western states.  And yes self butchered which isn't that difficult, and certainly something someone who was very cost sensitive would learn to do themselves.

Could I haul this thing off in my 98 camry somehow?

Access to an SUV would be better.  You'll need at least one 130 quart cooler to get it home, and honestly you'd rather have two coolers to keep the ice/meat ratio better. 

Sounds expensive, but I guess maybe a handful of the 300+ million people in this country could maybe break even hunting an elk.

Keep in mind there are people who make a living doing this.  There is a hunting ranch in Colorado on the market for about $70MM $32.5MM.  In that sense, some people need to hunt to make a living.

[wetwillie]

I have multiple subcontractors that shoot/reel in 90% of all meat their family eats.  They like it, but are also in a low earnings sitch.  They keep themselves there, but again, they claim to like it. 

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Hunted meat is far less economical than clipping coupons and shopping at aldi or something similar.

That isn't always the case.  A resident elk tag might be ~$50 for 300 pounds of the very best quality meat (no hormones, no steroids, no anti-biotics, etc). 

If I had known elk meat was available for .17/lb I would have been hunting my ass iff years ago.

It's not.  The cost to have that butchered is probably $300-$500.  Then you have to transport it frozen.  The low cost above would only be right if you owned land that you hunted, then cleaned and butchered it yourself.

No that cost applies to an elk taken on public land by a resident hunter of most western states.  And yes self butchered which isn't that difficult, and certainly something someone who was very cost sensitive would learn to do themselves.

Could I haul this thing off in my 98 camry somehow?

Access to an SUV would be better.  You'll need at least one 130 quart cooler to get it home, and honestly you'd rather have two coolers to keep the ice/meat ratio better. 

Sounds expensive, but I guess maybe a handful of the 300+ million people in this country could maybe break even hunting an elk.

Keep in mind there are people who make a living doing this.  There is a hunting ranch in Colorado on the market for about $70MM $32.5MM.  In that sense, some people need to hunt to make a living.

That is quite the pickle

[Tobias]

[Mrs. Gooch]

[slobber]

Gonna win 'em all!

[Dugout DickStone]

I have multiple subcontractors that shoot/reel in 90% of all meat their family eats.  They like it, but are also in a low earnings sitch.  They keep themselves there, but again, they claim to like it. 

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Food is then free.

[CNS]

free'ish

[Dugout DickStone]

free'ish

The recipient isn't paying for it.

Not a huge part of this debate IMO but the "my family would starve if I didn't have a gun to hunt" person is a liar

[CNS]

free'ish

The recipient isn't paying for it.

Not a huge part of this debate IMO but the "my family would starve if I didn't have a gun to hunt" person is a liar

Agreed.  That's not who this guy is.  He and his fam like the sport and the food. 

[Emo EMAW]

A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.

[puniraptor]

thought experiment time:

what if the parties flipped places on the gun issue? like the bernie socialist democratic party was the champion of unlimited gun freedom and the 2nd amendment and the "small gov" conservative pubs wanted to ban and take your guns?

all other things remain the same, the parties flip flop on gun rights. what do people do? what do YOU do?

[CNS]

thought experiment time:

what if the parties flipped places on the gun issue? like the bernie socialist democratic party was the champion of unlimited gun freedom and the 2nd amendment and the "small gov" conservative pubs wanted to ban and take your guns?

all other things remain the same, the parties flip flop on gun rights. what do people do? what do YOU do?

Go buy more guns.  Duh.

[Dugout DickStone]

A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.

the government doesn't want a single thing you have.

[star seed 7]

Full steam ahead puni

[Emo EMAW]

A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.

the government doesn't want a single thing you have.

IRS shill.

[Emo EMAW]

thought experiment time:

what if the parties flipped places on the gun issue? like the bernie socialist democratic party was the champion of unlimited gun freedom and the 2nd amendment and the "small gov" conservative pubs wanted to ban and take your guns?

all other things remain the same, the parties flip flop on gun rights. what do people do? what do YOU do?

I would do the same thing I do now.

[puniraptor]

thought experiment time:

what if the parties flipped places on the gun issue? like the bernie socialist democratic party was the champion of unlimited gun freedom and the 2nd amendment and the "small gov" conservative pubs wanted to ban and take your guns?

all other things remain the same, the parties flip flop on gun rights. what do people do? what do YOU do?

I would do the same thing I do now.

would you support a tax the rich, big social safety net, universal healthcare candidate if that candidate was also a champion of individual gun rights? (and the repeal obamacare, end welfare, pay the rich conservative wanted to ban guns)?

[puniraptor]

*i know its all about the baby ducks for our guy emo

*think kazdub would be for banning guns because his number one is 'bort's

[Mrs. Gooch]

thought experiment time:

what if the parties flipped places on the gun issue? like the bernie socialist democratic party was the champion of unlimited gun freedom and the 2nd amendment and the "small gov" conservative pubs wanted to ban and take your guns?

all other things remain the same, the parties flip flop on gun rights. what do people do? what do YOU do?

Vote democrat

[Emo EMAW]

thought experiment time:

what if the parties flipped places on the gun issue? like the bernie socialist democratic party was the champion of unlimited gun freedom and the 2nd amendment and the "small gov" conservative pubs wanted to ban and take your guns?

all other things remain the same, the parties flip flop on gun rights. what do people do? what do YOU do?

I would do the same thing I do now.

would you support a tax the rich, big social safety net, universal healthcare candidate if that candidate was also a champion of individual gun rights? (and the repeal obamacare, end welfare, pay the rich conservative wanted to ban guns)?

Candidate for which office?  And what are the other options for this office?

[puniraptor]

thought experiment time:

what if the parties flipped places on the gun issue? like the bernie socialist democratic party was the champion of unlimited gun freedom and the 2nd amendment and the "small gov" conservative pubs wanted to ban and take your guns?

all other things remain the same, the parties flip flop on gun rights. what do people do? what do YOU do?

I would do the same thing I do now.

would you support a tax the rich, big social safety net, universal healthcare candidate if that candidate was also a champion of individual gun rights? (and the repeal obamacare, end welfare, pay the rich conservative wanted to ban guns)?

Candidate for which office?  And what are the other options for this office?

every office! those are only choices! its a thought experiment, guy!

[DQ12]

Puni just enlightened me with that thought experiment.  Turns out I don't really give a crap about guns either way.  Tax'em.  Leave'em.  Take'em.  I don't really care either way. 

[Emo EMAW]

thought experiment time:

what if the parties flipped places on the gun issue? like the bernie socialist democratic party was the champion of unlimited gun freedom and the 2nd amendment and the "small gov" conservative pubs wanted to ban and take your guns?

all other things remain the same, the parties flip flop on gun rights. what do people do? what do YOU do?

I would do the same thing I do now.

would you support a tax the rich, big social safety net, universal healthcare candidate if that candidate was also a champion of individual gun rights? (and the repeal obamacare, end welfare, pay the rich conservative wanted to ban guns)?

Candidate for which office?  And what are the other options for this office?

every office! those are only choices! its a thought experiment, guy!

What's the hypothesis of your thought experiment?