Another school shooting

[star seed 7]

Still unsure why @michigancat thinks the FFL process for dealerships to sell guns isn't good enough for private sales?

Confirmed. Clearly everything is going great and there's no problem with gun violence in America. We should change nothing.

Chicago has changed lots of things about owning guns, making it a lot harder.  Pretty much hasn't made much of a dent on things there.

Overall, gun violence is on a 20 year downward trend.

yeah, i mean it's not like 10 minutes away you can buy a gun in the suburbs

[Dugout DickStone]

And folks, here's how you get from law-abiding gun-owning citizen to criminal faced with confiscation of personal property.   

it's crazy how brainwashed gun people are on this topic. the wild leaps from "registration" to "take away all guns and charge gun owners with crimes" are very  . is this an nra talking point or something?

I'm guessing the thinking is that by registering that the gov has a ready-made list of names and addresses of the people with guns. So whenever the time came they could easily ride in and take the people's guns away from them. I'm also guessing that by having firearms registered, the thought is owners would keep better tabs on their guns, because if a crime was committed with their gun then they would be liable.

There is probably some truth to both of these. The only thing I vehemently disagree with is the thought that any of these things should begin at a federal level.

No dummies believe this anymore, right?

[EMAWmeister]

And folks, here's how you get from law-abiding gun-owning citizen to criminal faced with confiscation of personal property.   

it's crazy how brainwashed gun people are on this topic. the wild leaps from "registration" to "take away all guns and charge gun owners with crimes" are very  . is this an nra talking point or something?

I'm guessing the thinking is that by registering that the gov has a ready-made list of names and addresses of the people with guns. So whenever the time came they could easily ride in and take the people's guns away from them. I'm also guessing that by having firearms registered, the thought is owners would keep better tabs on their guns, because if a crime was committed with their gun then they would be liable.

There is probably some truth to both of these. The only thing I vehemently disagree with is the thought that any of these things should begin at a federal level.

No dummies believe this anymore, right?

I bet at least 10 people who have posted in this thread do

[SdK]

I'd say closer to 5, but I agree.

[06wildcat]

The more the nuts resist needed reforms, the more likely it is public opinion will swing all the way to strict prohibition.

[wetwillie]

I think it would be much more practical to effect the ammuntion
side of the equation. 

[SdK]

Not an expert here,  but I'm fairly certain it is much easier to fabricate ammunition than it is a firearm.

[RickRampus]

define firearm, cause i can put a bottle rocket in an iron pipe, like, yesterday

[DQ12]

I think it would be much more practical to effect the ammuntion
side of the equation.

I'm the biggest supporter in the world of making lead bullets illegal.  Biggest soft bullet proponent I know.

It's the best and easiest solution.  Last year I was so confident that this would be the answer that I started trying to research rubber bullet producers to invest in them, but then i got bored so i stopped.

[Stevesie60]

I think it would be much more practical to effect the ammuntion
side of the equation.

I'm the biggest supporter in the world of making lead bullets illegal.  Biggest soft bullet proponent I know.

It's the best and easiest solution.  Last year I was so confident that this would be the answer that I started trying to research rubber bullet producers to invest in them, but then i got bored so i stopped.

I'm on board. Boy Dlew, this makes me very reminiscent of how #teamhubert was started......

[CNS]

I think it would be much more practical to effect the ammuntion
side of the equation.

I'm the biggest supporter in the world of making lead bullets illegal.  Biggest soft bullet proponent I know.

It's the best and easiest solution.  Last year I was so confident that this would be the answer that I started trying to research rubber bullet producers to invest in them, but then i got bored so i stopped.

There is a Colorado start up that is doing a couple new bullets that spread out when shot into a circle, tied together with a type of string or something. I read an article on them last fall.  Basically, their idea is that the spreading bullet makes intruders easier to hit when you are dead ass tired at three in the morning and just woke up to shoot someone who just broke into your house.  A side effect is that the bullets have much, much less force and mostly just cause damage not death unless at very close range.

Seems like a good happy medium btwn the rubber bullets ppl and the I still want to shoot ppl lots crowd. 

[EMAWmeister]

I think it would be much more practical to effect the ammuntion
side of the equation.

I'm the biggest supporter in the world of making lead bullets illegal.  Biggest soft bullet proponent I know.

It's the best and easiest solution.  Last year I was so confident that this would be the answer that I started trying to research rubber bullet producers to invest in them, but then i got bored so i stopped.

There is a Colorado start up that is doing a couple new bullets that spread out when shot into a circle, tied together with a type of string or something. I read an article on them last fall.  Basically, their idea is that the spreading bullet makes intruders easier to hit when you are dead ass tired at three in the morning and just woke up to shoot someone who just broke into your house.  A side effect is that the bullets have much, much less force and mostly just cause damage not death unless at very close range.

Seems like a good happy medium btwn the rubber bullets ppl and the I still want to shoot ppl lots crowd. 

I don't give much consideration to this crowd's feelings

[CNS]

I think it would be much more practical to effect the ammuntion
side of the equation.

I'm the biggest supporter in the world of making lead bullets illegal.  Biggest soft bullet proponent I know.

It's the best and easiest solution.  Last year I was so confident that this would be the answer that I started trying to research rubber bullet producers to invest in them, but then i got bored so i stopped.

There is a Colorado start up that is doing a couple new bullets that spread out when shot into a circle, tied together with a type of string or something. I read an article on them last fall.  Basically, their idea is that the spreading bullet makes intruders easier to hit when you are dead ass tired at three in the morning and just woke up to shoot someone who just broke into your house.  A side effect is that the bullets have much, much less force and mostly just cause damage not death unless at very close range.

Seems like a good happy medium btwn the rubber bullets ppl and the I still want to shoot ppl lots crowd. 

I don't give much consideration to this crowd's feelings

No one is worried about anyone's feelings, just their votes.

[SkinnyBenny]

Oh man, can you imagine how many fewer kindergarteners would die from gunshot wounds to the face if you were only allowed to use rubber bullets? It would be amazing. It's just too bad one side is completely unwilling to compromise at all in any way whatsoever. Sorry kids.

[Emo EMAW]

Oh man, can you imagine how many fewer kindergarteners would die from gunshot wounds to the face if you were only allowed to use rubber bullets? It would be amazing. It's just too bad one side is completely unwilling to compromise at all in any way whatsoever. Sorry kids.

More stupid straw man arguments.  GTFOOH with this trash.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Oh man, can you imagine how many fewer kindergarteners would die from gunshot wounds to the face if you were only allowed to use rubber bullets? It would be amazing. It's just too bad one side is completely unwilling to compromise at all in any way whatsoever. Sorry kids.

More stupid straw man arguments.  GTFOOH with this trash.

I'm not sure you understand what a straw man is.

[Dugout DickStone]

define firearm, cause i can put a bottle rocket in an iron pipe, like, yesterday

that will be totally fine

[Rage Against the McKee]

define firearm, cause i can put a bottle rocket in an iron pipe, like, yesterday

that will be totally fine

Actually, the Kansas government has taken that gun away.

[Dugout DickStone]

Decent point.  why don't gun nuts get all crazy about the ban on fireworks?

[CNS]

Decent point.  why don't gun nuts get all crazy about the ban on fireworks?

State values roofs more than kindergarteners,  obvsly.

[Emo EMAW]

Decent point.  why don't gun nuts get all crazy about the ban on fireworks?

Because we all know a guy.  You don't know a guy? 

[p1k3]

The more the nuts resist needed reforms, the more likely it is public opinion will swing all the way to strict prohibition.

I really don't think you'll ever take the guns. Sorry 

[steve dave]

pike, how would you like to be the proud owner of a really cherry 16 gauge? wow, this gun! basically shows everyone how big your balls and ball shaft are! nobody is going to ever pick on you again! this thing shoots people in the face completely dead for all I know! amazing! who's the big man now everyone! this guy with this gun from the looks of things! what's that tough guy? I can't hear you because I'm shooting bullets all at you! anyway, PM if interested this thing is hot to unload onto someone for cash money.

[Emo EMAW]

I'm seriously waiting for specs on this thing, sd.  Any chance it's Spanish?

[steve dave]

I'm seriously waiting for specs on this thing, sd.  Any chance it's Spanish?

is remington a spanish name?