Author Topic: "Obamacare" (Read 317054 times)

Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #3375 on:** January 28, 2019, 11:33:55 AM »

It would probably look more like medicaid in red states that want it to fail and more like medicare in blue states.

Kat Kid · « **Reply #3376 on:** January 28, 2019, 12:24:22 PM »

Quote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on January 28, 2019, 11:00:52 AM

Quote from: Kat Kid on December 17, 2018, 03:59:54 PM
The obvious reason he is taking pains to conflate Medicaid and Medicare is that Medicare is incredibly popular, universal (for its population) and has large bargaining power to negotiate reimbursement rates, whereas Medicaid is means tested and sabotaged at every end by states that want to undermine it and because of all of the burdensome work requirements and paper pushing to dissuade people from applying and keeping it has lots more overhead and is rightly regarded as inferior to the coverage provided by Medicare.

You realize this is exactly why liberal politicians are careful to call it "Medicare for All"? Let me ask you, what do you think a single-payer system (one that doesn't cost us $20 trillion over the next 10 years) would actually look like - Medicare or Medicaid? I think you know the answer.

In my hypothetical it actually kicks ass.

wetwillie · « **Reply #3377 on:** January 28, 2019, 12:31:49 PM »

Maybe if we called it something like westar the ksu’s of the world could overlook it being a part of the government and not auto reject it.

chum1 · « **Reply #3378 on:** January 28, 2019, 09:31:18 PM »

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1090085510784208898

sys · « **Reply #3379 on:** February 04, 2019, 05:49:27 PM »

one thing i will never understand about americans is how they're all "we hate big banks and bailouts that stave off recessions and whatnot", but they're cool with doctors sucking up 20% of their money.

https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1092569422403907584

chum1 · « **Reply #3380 on:** February 04, 2019, 06:14:47 PM »

Remember how people itt were convinced that Obamacare was some major factor in rising health insurance rates?

Cire · « **Reply #3381 on:** February 05, 2019, 11:41:27 AM »

They clearly went up after obamacare and didn't go down after obamacare.

sys · « **Reply #3382 on:** February 24, 2019, 06:07:40 PM »

democrats (and republicans!) should spend a little more time fixing the underlying problems with american healthcare and worry a little bit less about who pays for it and how.

https://twitter.com/Noahpinion/status/1099763315608150016

gatoveintisiete · « **Reply #3383 on:** February 24, 2019, 06:32:09 PM »

most unhealthy eating habits and vices in the world?

sys · « **Reply #3384 on:** February 24, 2019, 07:09:39 PM »

Quote from: gatoveintisiete on February 24, 2019, 06:32:09 PM

most unhealthy eating habits and vices in the world?

nope.

catastrophe · « **Reply #3385 on:** February 24, 2019, 10:03:58 PM »

Quote from: sys on February 24, 2019, 06:07:40 PM

democrats (and republicans!) should spend a little more time fixing the underlying problems with american healthcare and worry a little bit less about who pays for it and how.

https://twitter.com/Noahpinion/status/1099763315608150016

YES

bucket · « **Reply #3386 on:** March 26, 2019, 11:33:44 AM »

https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/status/1110568596558807040

Cire · « **Reply #3387 on:** March 26, 2019, 11:42:45 AM »

Owned to Own the libs

sys · « **Reply #3388 on:** March 26, 2019, 11:45:49 AM »

100%. if you listen to voter questions to dem candidates, health care is, like, 90% of what people care about.

https://twitter.com/Noahpinion/status/1110576309896273920

chum1 · « **Reply #3389 on:** March 26, 2019, 11:56:16 AM »

I know a lot of people thought that the takeaway from 2018 was that pubs lost on healthcare. It would be beautiful if they failed to learn that lesson for 2020.

Ksuminnesotacat · « **Reply #3390 on:** March 26, 2019, 08:23:18 PM »

You stupid eff’s ever see a seven car pile up in Mexico? I have and healthcare there involves all passengers on the highway jump out and start to take videos! Then the federalis come along with their Humvees with a badass 50 cal mounted on top and they take their cell phones out and start to video. Lastly the policia arrive just in time to pull out their phones and video an in the end the ambulance arrives and the paramedics look at each other raise their hands and drive off. Nine hours later the meat wagons come remove the messy stuff and the vehicles still are in the road until they find a way to move em off.

Universal heath care eff Ya!

8manpick · « **Reply #3391 on:** March 26, 2019, 09:09:43 PM »

Institutional Control · « **Reply #3392 on:** March 26, 2019, 09:30:35 PM »

Quote from: Ksuminnesotacat on March 26, 2019, 08:23:18 PM

You stupid eff’s ever see a seven car pile up in Mexico? I have and healthcare there involves all passengers on the highway jump out and start to take videos! Then the federalis come along with their Humvees with a badass 50 cal mounted on top and they take their cell phones out and start to video. Lastly the policia arrive just in time to pull out their phones and video an in the end the ambulance arrives and the paramedics look at each other raise their hands and drive off. Nine hours later the meat wagons come remove the messy stuff and the vehicles still are in the road until they find a way to move em off.

Universal heath care eff Ya!

New favorite poster on this blog.

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Spracne · « **Reply #3393 on:** March 26, 2019, 09:35:07 PM »

I think that was a Henry Rollins music video, actually.

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Institutional Control · « **Reply #3394 on:** March 26, 2019, 09:37:07 PM »

Quote from: Spracne on March 26, 2019, 09:35:07 PM

I think that was a Henry Rollins music video, actually.

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Link please.

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Ksuminnesotacat · « **Reply #3395 on:** March 26, 2019, 09:38:32 PM »

Quote from: Spracne on March 26, 2019, 09:35:07 PM

I think that was a Henry Rollins music video, actually.

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Cabo March 1st 2019 look it up

DaBigTrain · « **Reply #3396 on:** March 26, 2019, 09:48:11 PM »

I'm confused as to what that has to do with universal health care

Ksuminnesotacat · « **Reply #3397 on:** March 26, 2019, 09:51:33 PM »

Quote from: Cat from DC on March 26, 2019, 09:48:11 PM

I'm confused as to what that has to do with universal health care

It’s what you get when you let someone else determine what you are allowed to have you need to leave the belt way a little more!

LickNeckey · « **Reply #3398 on:** March 26, 2019, 09:53:40 PM »

Quote from: Ksuminnesotacat on March 26, 2019, 09:38:32 PM

Quote from: Spracne on March 26, 2019, 09:35:07 PM
I think that was a Henry Rollins music video, actually.

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Cabo March 1st 2019 look it up

well clearly this cautionary tale of a traffic accident in Mexico completely delegitimizes universal health coverage around the world

case closed fellas

LickNeckey · « **Reply #3399 on:** March 26, 2019, 09:56:55 PM »

Quote from: Ksuminnesotacat on March 26, 2019, 09:51:33 PM

Quote from: Cat from DC on March 26, 2019, 09:48:11 PM
I'm confused as to what that has to do with universal health care

It’s what you get when you let someone else determine what you are allowed to have you need to leave the belt way a little more!

btw Mexico doesn't have a single payer system

but rather has a system fairly similar to our own