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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #1000 on: November 18, 2016, 10:03:09 AM »
Made some elk chili last night.  Honestly I couldn't tell any difference from beef.

Well, if there is no difference in taste, let me be the first to let you know you can buy beef at any local supermarket and "they" have even already done all the annoying parts and it's just ready to use. Pretty great time to be alive really

The desire for the meat is much more than any difference in taste.  I figured you'd be insightful enough to know that.  Allow me to explain.

I really enjoy being able to actually provide for my own nourishment and for that of my family.  I don't see it as a challenge to get up and go to work every day and get paid this salary with which I can part with in trade for things like food which I convey to my family.  But, the elk is a true challenge.  It feels like I have really worked and sacrificed for it.  I like to give myself into these endeavors, suffer and toil, be rewarded, and then share with friends and provide for my family.  Emotionally it is very rewarding to me.  I am actually a very selfless person.  Maybe I find it difficult to show others how much I care about them?   I hope that they know that this thing I worked very hard for, I give to them out of my love for them and my devotion to them.  That's more than I can ever do by going to a grocery store and swiping my Chase Sapphire Preferred.

Maybe your wife feels differently, but this seems like some real Gift of the Magi crap.  I think I could just as seriously type out a paragraph like that about K-State sports and my sons, but my wife would not accept any of it as actually helpful.

How is it Gift of the Magi?  The gift is completely useful, and superior to anything commercially available.  It came at a different cost, but the value is immeasurable since you can't exactly buy it. 

The more I think about it it's a completely irrelevant comparison. 

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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #1001 on: November 18, 2016, 10:19:35 AM »
The cost was your time + thousands of dollars. I'm not sure that outweighs the $5/lb of a product that (allegedly) tastes the exact same.
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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #1002 on: November 18, 2016, 10:31:42 AM »
Sounds like it was a priceless experience. Good for you, emo.

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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #1003 on: November 18, 2016, 10:35:42 AM »
What's the difference between buying a side of beef that has been grass fed and not given antibiotics or hormones and that elk?
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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #1004 on: November 18, 2016, 10:38:26 AM »
Also p sure you can buy elk meat cause if not then I have no idea why that guy I know has an elk farm
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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #1005 on: November 18, 2016, 10:44:54 AM »
pete recently had a relative kill an elk the size of a moose. i think he's refrained from posting pics of the behemoth out of respect for emo.

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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #1006 on: November 18, 2016, 11:12:00 AM »
Did you guys not read my earlier post?  Perhaps you didn't understand or relate to it? 

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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #1007 on: November 18, 2016, 11:31:47 AM »
People are probably struggling because you were too subtle in describing your big league selflessness.

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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #1008 on: November 18, 2016, 11:37:32 AM »
Did you guys not read my earlier post?  Perhaps you didn't understand or relate to it?

The challenge and triumph part is all good and understandable. It gets a little murky when you try to say you spent thousands of dollars and days away from your family completing this challenge for them.
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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #1009 on: November 18, 2016, 11:38:46 AM »
yeah, that part was really stupid.
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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #1010 on: November 18, 2016, 11:47:11 AM »
I'm still hung up on the dietary goals
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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #1011 on: November 18, 2016, 12:08:51 PM »
Did you guys not read my earlier post?  Perhaps you didn't understand or relate to it?

The challenge and triumph part is all good and understandable. It gets a little murky when you try to say you spent thousands of dollars and days away from your family completing this challenge for them.

The money is immaterial.  There is plenty of it and it would be spent anyway. 

As far as the time investment, it is necessary to have struggled.  It's inherent.  There is no plausible alternative. 

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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #1012 on: November 18, 2016, 12:16:11 PM »
Happy medium time, guys:

Emo, buy a ranch, buy some elk, put some gps's on them, track them at a later date w/ your phone, blast one, be home by lunch with new elk!

I mean, a bow and rifle are both technology, why stop there?

I mean, if you are leasing land, doing scouting trips, etc on top of the actual hunting trips, the above would save you money in the long term and provide you with 100% success.  Win/Win.

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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #1013 on: November 18, 2016, 12:29:38 PM »
Did you guys not read my earlier post?  Perhaps you didn't understand or relate to it?

The challenge and triumph part is all good and understandable. It gets a little murky when you try to say you spent thousands of dollars and days away from your family completing this challenge for them.

The money is immaterial.  There is plenty of it and it would be spent anyway. 

As far as the time investment, it is necessary to have struggled.  It's inherent.  There is no plausible alternative.

Yeah, and I don't mean to indicate that you should have spent your money or time in a different manner or you did anything wrong. I don't believe your family was adversely effected in anyway.

You completed a personal goal, saying that it was out of selflessness for your family is what people (me) are struggling to understand clearly.
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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #1014 on: November 18, 2016, 12:42:19 PM »
As far as the time investment, it is necessary to have struggled.  It's inherent.  There is no plausible alternative.

when i shot an elk, here is how i did it:

1.  drive to mountains.
2.  walk around with my dog until we randomly intercepted some elk.
3.  shoot the nearest one.

carrying it out was hard though.


that's purely an aside, tho.  the wtf part of your elk stories is where you act like you're doing it for your family.  the rest is all good.
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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #1015 on: November 18, 2016, 01:10:25 PM »
No where have I ever said that I only do it for my family.  I might actually enjoy the hunt in and of itself ya know. 

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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #1016 on: November 18, 2016, 01:16:05 PM »
here's the thing, emo: pete's relative is an objectively superior hunter.

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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #1017 on: November 18, 2016, 01:24:47 PM »
I'm sure he/she is, assuming it wasn't a landowner voucher or private land or guided or an otherwise canned hunt or something.

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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #1018 on: November 18, 2016, 01:26:07 PM »
I saw the pick too. I don't think you're ever going to see a elk that size in these parts. It was a monster.

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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #1019 on: November 18, 2016, 02:50:56 PM »
I might actually enjoy the hunt in and of itself ya know.

yeah, that part makes sense.
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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #1020 on: November 18, 2016, 03:05:27 PM »
I might actually enjoy the hunt in and of itself ya know.

yeah, that part makes sense.

You don't think it makes sense that it makes me feel good to provide for my family in this way?

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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #1021 on: November 18, 2016, 03:09:22 PM »
Hiking is just as enjoyable as hunting, imo.  In fact, it is more so.  You get what you go for every time you go.

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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #1022 on: November 18, 2016, 03:10:59 PM »
it makes sense that it makes you feel better about selfishly (selfish does not connote bad in this sentence) pursuing your hobby if you somehow manage to convince yourself that your family benefits.
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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #1023 on: November 18, 2016, 03:18:40 PM »
i believe your motive is pure, emo. and i think it's great. i just think you suck at hunting compared to pete's relatives.

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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #1024 on: November 18, 2016, 03:18:59 PM »
That's sort of a physchopathic way of looking at it though.  It disingenuously characterizes my motivations.