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Title: Killing animals
Post by: Rams on November 04, 2011, 09:33:35 PM
Is this the place to talk about hunting?  Anybody want to talk about hunting?  :users:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on November 04, 2011, 10:01:45 PM
i want to shoot a pig, but don't have a good place to go.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rams on November 04, 2011, 10:11:42 PM
i want to shoot a pig, but don't have a good place to go.
Arizona.  But they call them Javelina.

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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on November 04, 2011, 10:13:28 PM
no, i want a pig.  sus scrofa.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rams on November 04, 2011, 10:17:22 PM
no, i want a pig.  sus scrofa.
Tejas.  Never been but looks fun.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on November 04, 2011, 10:22:24 PM
i meant i want to shoot a pig within 25 miles of my house.  i don't care if it's fun or not, i want to eat it.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rams on November 04, 2011, 10:29:03 PM
i meant i want to shoot a pig within 25 miles of my house.  i don't care if it's fun or not, i want to eat it.

If you're not doing it for sport, you can just buy it in the store and save yourself a lot of hassle.  Pro tip*  It's marketed as "pork."

Anything else I can help you with?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on November 04, 2011, 10:35:18 PM
you can just buy it in the store and save yourself a lot of hassle.  Pro tip*  It's marketed as "pork."

doesn't taste the same.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: doom on November 04, 2011, 11:17:20 PM
Texas is the place to be for pig, MO is okay too.  I hunt white tail deer, but have always wanted to get a boar.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: j-von on November 04, 2011, 11:42:30 PM
I'd like to kill the coyotes in my neighborhood.  A few other homeowners are on board, but guns would be frowned upon around so many houses  :frown:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: the_ugly_clown on November 05, 2011, 12:25:05 AM
i want to hunt cows.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on November 05, 2011, 02:08:35 AM
I'd like to kill the coyotes in my neighborhood.

why?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: KSUTOMMY on November 05, 2011, 05:05:03 AM
Texas is the place to be for pig, MO is okay too.  I hunt white tail deer, but have always wanted to get a boar.

I too have thought about this recently... wild pigs are such a problem in TX, you don't need a tag, you can shoot 'em year round and shoot as many as you can. I understand the young pigs are pretty  :lick: you can find guys who'll take you out to hunt on Craigslist!
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Trim on November 05, 2011, 06:21:36 AM
Is this the place to talk about hunting?  Anybody want to talk about hunting?  :users:

I prefer to call it judging.

sys, next time you're around GCCPAkat and I, have him tell you his wild boar story.  Me typing it here can't do it justice.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Houstoncat93 on November 05, 2011, 07:26:12 AM
Texas is the place to be for pig, MO is okay too.  I hunt white tail deer, but have always wanted to get a boar.

I too have thought about this recently... wild pigs are such a problem in TX, you don't need a tag, you can shoot 'em year round and shoot as many as you can. I understand the young pigs are pretty  :lick: you can find guys who'll take you out to hunt on Craigslist!

You can even hunt them from a helicopter down here. 
Title: Re: Re: Killing animals
Post by: steve dave on November 05, 2011, 07:51:03 AM
#teamanimals
Title: Re: Re: Killing animals
Post by: AppleJack on November 05, 2011, 08:37:36 AM
#teamanimals
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rams on November 05, 2011, 12:57:38 PM
I just wanted to talk about deer hunting with some wildcat bros.  Thanks for ruining my thread, dorks.  :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on November 05, 2011, 02:27:15 PM
I just wanted to talk about deer hunting with some wildcat bros.  Thanks for ruining my thread, dorks.  :shakesfist:

i've shot a couple of deer.  they were ok, not great.  not a lot of usable meat, for how big they look on the outside.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: chum1 on November 05, 2011, 02:41:19 PM
i hate that fatass, redneck pos hunters and fishers get lumped into the same "outdoor" category as fit, good-looking hikers, mountain climbers, etc.  eff you, you rough ridin' pos hunters and fishers.  you suck.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rams on November 05, 2011, 04:12:23 PM
i hate that fatass, redneck pos hunters and fishers get lumped into the same "outdoor" category as fit, good-looking hikers, mountain climbers, etc.  eff you, you rough ridin' pos hunters and fishers.  you suck.
:opcat:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rams on November 05, 2011, 04:19:41 PM
I just wanted to talk about deer hunting with some wildcat bros.  Thanks for ruining my thread, dorks.  :shakesfist:

i've shot a couple of deer.  they were ok, not great.  not a lot of usable meat, for how big they look on the outside.

Can't tell if serious.  Bow or rifle?

And if you don't like venison, you've either never had it prepared right or don't like good food. It's my favorite non-fish meat and probably 60% of the reason I hunt.  :fatty:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on November 05, 2011, 05:07:30 PM
Can't tell if serious.  Bow or rifle?

And if you don't like venison, you've either never had it prepared right or don't like good food. It's my favorite non-fish meat and probably 60% of the reason I hunt.  :fatty:

i'm serious.  rifle.  maybe, i dunno.  it wasn't that i didn't like it, it was just pretty meh.  i loved elk.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Big Sam on November 05, 2011, 05:11:37 PM
i want to hunt cows.
To keep it remotely interesting, I recommend a smaller sized sledgehammer.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Pete on November 05, 2011, 05:52:56 PM
I just wanted to talk about deer hunting with some wildcat bros.  Thanks for ruining my thread, dorks.  :shakesfist:

Deer are an overpopulated nuisance and danger in Northeast Kansas.  Shoot away, bro.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: HeinBallz on November 06, 2011, 09:57:52 AM
The taste of deer meat has a lot to do with their diet.   I stopped hunting deer because all we have around here are milo & corn fields & the deer meat just taste like crap.  Heinballz houshold is very pro hunting, but I hate trophy hunters; so if you're killing deer just for fun, I think you're a dick. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Dlew12 on November 07, 2011, 12:21:54 AM
The taste of deer meat has a lot to do with their diet.   I stopped hunting deer because all we have around here are milo & corn fields & the deer meat just taste like crap.  Heinballz houshold is very pro hunting, but I hate trophy hunters; so if you're killing deer just for fun, I think you're a dick. 
Unless you're dirt poor and starving, all hunting is some form of trophy hunting, imo. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: WillieWatanabe on November 07, 2011, 08:03:42 AM
I just wanted to talk about deer hunting with some wildcat bros.  Thanks for ruining my thread, dorks.  :shakesfist:

Deer are an overpopulated nuisance and danger in Northeast Kansas.  Shoot away, bro.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 07, 2011, 09:56:14 AM
Shot a turkey 2 weeks ago.  He seemed fine with it.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: schreds21 on November 09, 2011, 08:58:34 AM
The taste of deer meat has a lot to do with their diet.   I stopped hunting deer because all we have around here are milo & corn fields & the deer meat just taste like crap.  Heinballz houshold is very pro hunting, but I hate trophy hunters; so if you're killing deer just for fun, I think you're a dick. 

Hey dipshit, what would you rather have them eat?  Acorns like in Arkansas and Mizzou?  Scrub brush like in W. Texas?  Marsh grass like in Florida?  Try eating one of the scrawny pieces of crap from one of those areas.  If all you have is milo and corn fields, the deer in your area are eating the same thing that cattle are fed in a goddamn feedlot.  Have you ever had beef that has only been free grazed on grass?  It's tougher than hell and tastes like crap cause it has no fat and marbeling from grain.  Though you are correct that the taste has a lot to do with diet, your deer are eating the best diet they can have for taste.  It could just be that deer meat doesn't agree with your palette or that you are preparing it wrong.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Winters on November 09, 2011, 09:14:17 AM
I killed an elephant once. Then sold his ivory on the black market.  :gocho:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: CNS on November 09, 2011, 09:15:31 AM
I deer hunt off and on, but have been more off in the last 5 yrs or so since I don't like venison much.  Deer to deer, some are better than others, but all very gamey.

I prob prepare it wrong, since the only recipes I have had for venison are from my dad, and he is a bad cook for all other types of food.  

When talking with others about prep, I always get recipes that involve marinating it in something for a long time, or cooking it while draped in bacon.  Honestly, if you have to do either, than all you are doing is trying to make something that doesn't taste very good tastes like marinade or bacon.  This being the case, why eat it?


I enjoy the outdoor side of hunting, and do shoot one every know and then, but usually end up giving the meat to people who do like to eat it.

Also, I hunt in north central ks, where they get plenty of corn/milo.  

Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: steve dave on November 09, 2011, 10:07:14 AM
look how much better the amazing animal stories thread is than this redneck thread  :lol:  LOOK AT IT!
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Cire on November 09, 2011, 10:15:17 AM
this thread turned full blown red neck GPC Bush light extravaganza.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Winters on November 09, 2011, 10:29:27 AM
I don't see any hick hayseed killing for ivory  :curse:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rams on November 09, 2011, 10:54:28 AM
In all honesty, the taste of deer meat has more to do with factors other than diet...specifically the time of year and how clean the kill is.  If it's during rut and you don't get a clean kill, it's probably going to be VERY gamey from all the adrenaline and increased blood flow.  If it's a clean kill and pre-rut, the meat is going to taste better because there is much less adrenaline and the deer aren't as stressed.

The best preparation for venison is to marinate the tenderloin in some soy sauce, honey, garlic, onion chowder, etc. and then grill it to rare/medium rare.  Served it sliced thin on a bed of quinoa pilaf and drizzle it with a mixed berry puree.  I also put it in a food processor with some pork fat and make hamburgers out of it...no more done than medium, obvi.  Venison chili is great too.

And yes, this thread has taken a clear turn towards GPC territory. :shakesfist:  I was more interested in talking about how everyone's season is going so far, not about the taste of rough ridin' venison.

BTW, rifle "hunting" for deer isn't hunting.  It's just killing.  There's no sport in it and it's a totally unfair fight.  Rifle hunting is for lazy retards.  #teamarchery
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: jmlynch1 on November 09, 2011, 11:39:07 AM
In all honesty, the taste of deer meat has more to do with factors other than diet...specifically the time of year and how clean the kill is.  If it's during rut and you don't get a clean kill, it's probably going to be VERY gamey from all the adrenaline and increased blood flow.  If it's a clean kill and pre-rut, the meat is going to taste better because there is much less adrenaline and the deer aren't as stressed.

The best preparation for venison is to marinate the tenderloin in some soy sauce, honey, garlic, onion chowder, etc. and then grill it to rare/medium rare.  Served it sliced thin on a bed of quinoa pilaf and drizzle it with a mixed berry puree.  I also put it in a food processor with some pork fat and make hamburgers out of it...no more done than medium, obvi.  Venison chili is great too.

And yes, this thread has taken a clear turn towards GPC territory. :shakesfist:  I was more interested in talking about how everyone's season is going so far, not about the taste of rough ridin' venison.

BTW, rifle "hunting" for deer isn't hunting.  It's just killing.  There's no sport in it and it's a totally unfair fight.  Rifle hunting is for lazy retards.  #teamarchery
I don't hunt or anything so I have no idea, but how is using a bow more fair than using a rifle?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: CNS on November 09, 2011, 11:46:42 AM


BTW, rifle "hunting" for deer isn't hunting.  It's just killing.  There's no sport in it and it's a totally unfair fight.  Rifle hunting is for lazy retards.  #teamarchery

Man, I could really bring the GPC on this one.  Refraining.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rams on November 09, 2011, 11:55:48 AM
In all honesty, the taste of deer meat has more to do with factors other than diet...specifically the time of year and how clean the kill is.  If it's during rut and you don't get a clean kill, it's probably going to be VERY gamey from all the adrenaline and increased blood flow.  If it's a clean kill and pre-rut, the meat is going to taste better because there is much less adrenaline and the deer aren't as stressed.

The best preparation for venison is to marinate the tenderloin in some soy sauce, honey, garlic, onion chowder, etc. and then grill it to rare/medium rare.  Served it sliced thin on a bed of quinoa pilaf and drizzle it with a mixed berry puree.  I also put it in a food processor with some pork fat and make hamburgers out of it...no more done than medium, obvi.  Venison chili is great too.

And yes, this thread has taken a clear turn towards GPC territory. :shakesfist:  I was more interested in talking about how everyone's season is going so far, not about the taste of rough ridin' venison.

BTW, rifle "hunting" for deer isn't hunting.  It's just killing.  There's no sport in it and it's a totally unfair fight.  Rifle hunting is for lazy retards.  #teamarchery
I don't hunt or anything so I have no idea, but how is using a bow more fair than using a rifle?

Getting within 30 yards of a deer and pulling a bow back is infinitely harder than getting within 200 yards of a deer and pulling the trigger.  The odds are in their favor that they're going to smell you, hear you or see you before they get within range.  Virtually none of that is a problem when you hunt with a rifle.  There's just no skill involved.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rams on November 09, 2011, 11:56:43 AM


BTW, rifle "hunting" for deer isn't hunting.  It's just killing.  There's no sport in it and it's a totally unfair fight.  Rifle hunting is for lazy retards.  #teamarchery

Man, I could really bring the GPC on this one.  Refraining.

:comeatme:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Cire on November 09, 2011, 11:58:30 AM
In all honesty, the taste of deer meat has more to do with factors other than diet...specifically the time of year and how clean the kill is.  If it's during rut and you don't get a clean kill, it's probably going to be VERY gamey from all the adrenaline and increased blood flow.  If it's a clean kill and pre-rut, the meat is going to taste better because there is much less adrenaline and the deer aren't as stressed.

The best preparation for venison is to marinate the tenderloin in some soy sauce, honey, garlic, onion chowder, etc. and then grill it to rare/medium rare.  Served it sliced thin on a bed of quinoa pilaf and drizzle it with a mixed berry puree.  I also put it in a food processor with some pork fat and make hamburgers out of it...no more done than medium, obvi.  Venison chili is great too.

And yes, this thread has taken a clear turn towards GPC territory. :shakesfist:  I was more interested in talking about how everyone's season is going so far, not about the taste of rough ridin' venison.

BTW, rifle "hunting" for deer isn't hunting.  It's just killing.  There's no sport in it and it's a totally unfair fight.  Rifle hunting is for lazy retards.  #teamarchery

sounds like you don't like the taste of venison either imo
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rams on November 09, 2011, 12:05:51 PM
In all honesty, the taste of deer meat has more to do with factors other than diet...specifically the time of year and how clean the kill is.  If it's during rut and you don't get a clean kill, it's probably going to be VERY gamey from all the adrenaline and increased blood flow.  If it's a clean kill and pre-rut, the meat is going to taste better because there is much less adrenaline and the deer aren't as stressed.

The best preparation for venison is to marinate the tenderloin in some soy sauce, honey, garlic, onion chowder, etc. and then grill it to rare/medium rare.  Served it sliced thin on a bed of quinoa pilaf and drizzle it with a mixed berry puree.  I also put it in a food processor with some pork fat and make hamburgers out of it...no more done than medium, obvi.  Venison chili is great too.

And yes, this thread has taken a clear turn towards GPC territory. :shakesfist:  I was more interested in talking about how everyone's season is going so far, not about the taste of rough ridin' venison.

BTW, rifle "hunting" for deer isn't hunting.  It's just killing.  There's no sport in it and it's a totally unfair fight.  Rifle hunting is for lazy retards.  #teamarchery

sounds like you don't like the taste of venison either imo
It doesn't mask the entire taste of venison, dumbass.  It just cuts the gamey taste and enhances the natural flavor.

You eat all of your food with no seasoning?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: WillieWatanabe on November 09, 2011, 12:06:41 PM

BTW, rifle "hunting" for deer isn't hunting.  It's just killing.  There's no sport in it and it's a totally unfair fight.  Rifle hunting is for lazy retards.  #teamarchery

We are rough ridin' humans. Everything is an unfair fight.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rams on November 09, 2011, 12:24:41 PM

BTW, rifle "hunting" for deer isn't hunting.  It's just killing.  There's no sport in it and it's a totally unfair fight.  Rifle hunting is for lazy retards.  #teamarchery

We are rough ridin' humans. Everything is an unfair fight.

The fact that we're humans only means we have the ABILITY to make everything an unfair fight in our favor.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: CNS on November 09, 2011, 02:19:26 PM
Only dumbasses make things harder than they have to be.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: AbeFroman on November 09, 2011, 04:15:38 PM
LHIQ here,

Do you always have to hunt at the ass crack of dawn? My friend is big into hunting and wants to take me, but I really have no desire to go sit in a field at 5am on a Saturday. Don't get me wrong, I'm ok with people murdering wild animals, but can't it happen at like 1 in the afternoon?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: CNS on November 09, 2011, 04:36:56 PM
LHIQ here,

Do you always have to hunt at the ass crack of dawn? My friend is big into hunting and wants to take me, but I really have no desire to go sit in a field at 5am on a Saturday. Don't get me wrong, I'm ok with people murdering wild animals, but can't it happen at like 1 in the afternoon?

Not a 100% across the board rule(depends on what you hunt), but yes, usually  you have to be out well before dawn.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rams on November 09, 2011, 08:19:47 PM
Only dumbasses make things harder than they have to be.

If the only goal is to end up with a dead deer, then I would agree.  If one of the reasons you're doing it for sport, then that rule doesn't apply.  SEE: hiking around a mountain rather than driving (enjoying the outdoors/exercise), going for a run rather than going for a drive (exercise).  Both of those things are harder than they have to be, but accomplish the same end result.  One of the main reasons anyone partakes in any sport is for the challenge.  Hunting deer with a rifle isn't challenging.  It's like playing one-on-one vs. a 3rd grader and bragging about how many points you scored.  I just don't understand it.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: wetwillie on November 09, 2011, 08:26:00 PM
It may be more difficult than a gun but gmafb with your compound bow with broadhead arrows crap as a "fair chance". It takes a special kind of Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) to sit in a tree for a whole day covered in deer piss.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rams on November 09, 2011, 08:28:15 PM
LHIQ here,

Do you always have to hunt at the ass crack of dawn? My friend is big into hunting and wants to take me, but I really have no desire to go sit in a field at 5am on a Saturday. Don't get me wrong, I'm ok with people murdering wild animals, but can't it happen at like 1 in the afternoon?

Deer are most active during the early morning and evening when they are traveling to and from feeding areas and bedding areas.  You need to either be out an hour or so before dawn or a couple of hours before dusk.  I've shot just as many deer in the evening as I have in the morning...maybe more.  For instance, I'm going out Friday morning and I'll probably go out again on Sunday evening.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 09, 2011, 08:28:34 PM
Only dumbasses make things harder than they have to be.

If the only goal is to end up with a dead deer, then I would agree.  If one of the reasons you're doing it for sport, then that rule doesn't apply.  SEE: hiking around a mountain rather than driving (enjoying the outdoors/exercise), going for a run rather than going for a drive (exercise).  Both of those things are harder than they have to be, but accomplish the same end result.  One of the main reasons anyone partakes in any sport is for the challenge.  Hunting deer with a rifle isn't challenging.  It's like playing one-on-one vs. a 3rd grader and bragging about how many points you scored.  I just don't understand it.

Seems like using a bow is cheating.  

Stalk and fight the thing.  only natural weapons.  rocks, sticks, teeth or hands.  Otherwise you are also running up the score on a 3rd grader.  Blasting him with a 85lb compund bow and a tungsten steel broadhead is not sport.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: chum1 on November 09, 2011, 08:42:13 PM
[ike playing one-on-one vs. a 3rd grader and bragging about how many points you scored. 

this is the exact example that pops into my mind when people on this site lol @ really dumb phog and gpc quotes. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 14, 2011, 04:58:19 PM
Was calling (trying to call) some yotes during the third quarter.  Stopped to enjoy the scene of 8 deer feeding 500 yards to my left, 4 deer 500 yards to my front (including 2 8-pointers sparring), and 2 deer over my back (both of which walked less than 60 yards by me).  Also a flock of prairie chickens flew in to roost right in front of me, and I stepped on a covey of quail on my walk out. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Brock Landers on November 14, 2011, 05:12:56 PM
LHIQ here,

Do you always have to hunt at the ass crack of dawn? My friend is big into hunting and wants to take me, but I really have no desire to go sit in a field at 5am on a Saturday. Don't get me wrong, I'm ok with people murdering wild animals, but can't it happen at like 1 in the afternoon?


QFT.  I have had offers to  go hunting with some hunting peeps, even though I don't own a rifle or have a hunting license or deer tags or any of that crap.  They told me they were given access to some land out by Salina and would be coming to pick me up at 3.  I told them if they meant 3 PM that was fine but since I'm pretty sure they meant 3 AM to leave me the eff alone.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 14, 2011, 05:36:24 PM
LHIQ here,

Do you always have to hunt at the ass crack of dawn? My friend is big into hunting and wants to take me, but I really have no desire to go sit in a field at 5am on a Saturday. Don't get me wrong, I'm ok with people murdering wild animals, but can't it happen at like 1 in the afternoon?


QFT.  I have had offers to  go hunting with some hunting peeps, even though I don't own a rifle or have a hunting license or deer tags or any of that crap.  They told me they were given access to some land out by Salina and would be coming to pick me up at 3.  I told them if they meant 3 PM that was fine but since I'm pretty sure they meant 3 AM to leave me the eff alone.

To clarify guys, it doesn't have to happen so early.  But if you're all into it and stuff that definitely is one of the best times. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on November 15, 2011, 12:34:40 AM
getting up early makes it feel harder, that's the main purpose.  because it's really not hard.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: CNS on November 15, 2011, 09:01:27 AM
getting up early makes it feel harder, that's the main purpose.  because it's really not hard.

Unless you bow hunt....apparently.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: HeinBallz on November 15, 2011, 10:00:04 PM
The taste of deer meat has a lot to do with their diet.   I stopped hunting deer because all we have around here are milo & corn fields & the deer meat just taste like crap.  Heinballz houshold is very pro hunting, but I hate trophy hunters; so if you're killing deer just for fun, I think you're a dick. 

Hey dipshit, what would you rather have them eat?  Acorns like in Arkansas and Mizzou?  Scrub brush like in W. Texas?  Marsh grass like in Florida?  Try eating one of the scrawny pieces of crap from one of those areas.  If all you have is milo and corn fields, the deer in your area are eating the same thing that cattle are fed in a goddamn feedlot.  Have you ever had beef that has only been free grazed on grass?  It's tougher than hell and tastes like crap cause it has no fat and marbeling from grain.  Though you are correct that the taste has a lot to do with diet, your deer are eating the best diet they can have for taste.  It could just be that deer meat doesn't agree with your palette or that you are preparing it wrong.

Hey fucknutz.  I've taken big game in 3 different states so I know you don't know what the eff you're talking about.   A deer is not a rough ridin' cow and taste very different.  In fact, wild game taste "Gamey" when they have too much fat on them you stupid dick knuckle.  You want a good tasting deer?  Go shoot one in colorado where they spend all winter eating bark off a rough ridin' tree.   Ever eat a cow that spent all winter eating bark from a rough ridin' tree?  No?  Me neither, but if deer meat is any indication I would say beef taste rough ridin' amazing. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: steve dave on November 16, 2011, 12:08:41 PM
I vote HeinBallz for goEMAW Hunter Guy of the Year for that post
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: EllToPay on November 16, 2011, 12:22:07 PM
#teamanimals
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: steve dave on November 16, 2011, 12:25:55 PM
#teamanimals
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rams on October 20, 2012, 11:26:45 PM
 :dance:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: CNS on October 20, 2012, 11:29:52 PM
Grats rams. 

Hopefull geno didnt have the same luck and the box of kittens lives to know another day

Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk 2
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rams on October 20, 2012, 11:45:13 PM
Grats rams. 

Hopefull geno didnt have the same luck and the box of kittens lives to know another day

Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk 2

haven't got one yet, but the season is ramping up for me. just curious if anyone else on the board has filled a tag yet.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on October 21, 2012, 12:20:05 AM
i hit a quail with my truck yesterday (on the fly).  will probably kill some mice tomorrow.

Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Bloodfart on October 21, 2012, 01:33:11 AM
i want to shoot a pig, but don't have a good place to go.

I shoot on average 3 pigs a year.  One shot one kill.  Quick and pain less.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Bloodfart on October 21, 2012, 01:36:00 AM
Plus killed the crap out of dove this season.  It was glorious.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Cire on October 21, 2012, 05:39:30 PM
Plus killed the crap out of dove this season.  It was glorious.

Explain this tradition to a non hunter
Title: Killing animals
Post by: steve dave on October 21, 2012, 05:48:38 PM
Hunters are weird
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Bloodfart on October 21, 2012, 07:37:51 PM
Plus killed the crap out of dove this season.  It was glorious.

Explain this tradition to a non hunter
I get up before sunrise and drive to my brother's house and eat some breakfast.  Usually breakfast burritos stuffed with eggs, sausage, green peppers, onions, and cheese.   :lick:  Then drive  :driving: to the area I have been observing flight patterns over the last few weeks.  Get our gear out and set up in a long firing line with who ever else is there.  I like to sit my motorized dove and several decoys a few yards in front of me.  Then we sit quietly in the twilight.  You will usually see several groups of dove flying around before sunrise but you can't shoot.  It's very peaceful till that sun comes.  We will shoot till the birds stop flying.  Usually congratulating eachother when there is a good shot or shunning someone who empties their gun at a bird only to watch said bird fly away.  Usually around 10 or 11a.m. we will go to dad's house to clean all the birds and eat them for lunch.  There are quite a few of us bloodfarts so there is plenty of convo going on the entire time.  I love it.
Title: Re: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rams on October 22, 2012, 08:56:27 AM
Plus killed the crap out of dove this season.  It was glorious.

Explain this tradition to a non hunter
I get up before sunrise and drive to my brother's house and eat some breakfast.  Usually breakfast burritos stuffed with eggs, sausage, green peppers, onions, and cheese.   :lick:  Then drive  :driving: to the area I have been observing flight patterns over the last few weeks.  Get our gear out and set up in a long firing line with who ever else is there.  I like to sit my motorized dove and several decoys a few yards in front of me.  Then we sit quietly in the twilight.  You will usually see several groups of dove flying around before sunrise but you can't shoot.  It's very peaceful till that sun comes.  We will shoot till the birds stop flying.  Usually congratulating eachother when there is a good shot or shunning someone who empties their gun at a bird only to watch said bird fly away.  Usually around 10 or 11a.m. we will go to dad's house to clean all the birds and eat them for lunch.  There are quite a few of us bloodfarts so there is plenty of convo going on the entire time.  I love it.

:thumbs: sounds like an amazing time
Title: Re: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rams on October 22, 2012, 08:56:52 AM
Hunters are weird

no you
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on October 22, 2012, 12:57:09 PM
I'd love it if someone came to my house, convinced me that this gorgeous lady wanted to sex me up and then once I get close enough to her they blow my head off.

#teamanimals
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 22, 2012, 02:12:41 PM
Hunters are weird

So are animals.  It's a weird showdown in the woods.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SwiftCat on October 22, 2012, 02:27:35 PM
My buddy and I shot clay pigeons on Sunday. It was fun.
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Post by: jtksu on October 22, 2012, 02:44:13 PM
My buddy and I shot clay pigeons on Sunday. It was fun.

Yeah, clay shooting is fun.  More difficult than I would have thought though.  I'm not al that big on hunting but I enjoy shooting so clays are a nice tradeoff for me.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: The1BigWillie on October 22, 2012, 04:58:56 PM
Plus killed the crap out of dove this season.  It was glorious.

Explain this tradition to a non hunter
I get up before sunrise and drive to my brother's house and eat some breakfast.  Usually breakfast burritos stuffed with eggs, sausage, green peppers, onions, and cheese.   :lick:  Then drive  :driving: to the area I have been observing flight patterns over the last few weeks.  Get our gear out and set up in a long firing line with who ever else is there.  I like to sit my motorized dove and several decoys a few yards in front of me.  Then we sit quietly in the twilight.  You will usually see several groups of dove flying around before sunrise but you can't shoot.  It's very peaceful till that sun comes.  We will shoot till the birds stop flying.  Usually congratulating eachother when there is a good shot or shunning someone who empties their gun at a bird only to watch said bird fly away.  Usually around 10 or 11a.m. we will go to dad's house to clean all the birds and eat them for lunch.  There are quite a few of us bloodfarts so there is plenty of convo going on the entire time.  I love it.

I would have slammed a couple bloody marys after that breakfast and gone back to sleep until Gameday started. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: RickRampus on October 23, 2012, 09:18:47 AM
I like predator calling, does anybody else like predator calling?  By predator I mean coyotes and bobcats in Kansas. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: slobber on October 23, 2012, 09:21:23 AM
I like predator calling, does anybody else like predator calling?  By predator I mean coyotes and bobcats in Kansas.
Been a while, but "WHAAAAA, WHAAAAAA, WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA." repeat :cheers:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Bloodfart on October 23, 2012, 10:39:33 AM
Hunters are weird

So are animals.  It's a weird showdown in the woods.
:thumbs:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 23, 2012, 02:12:35 PM
I like predator calling, does anybody else like predator calling?  By predator I mean coyotes and bobcats in Kansas.

Let's talk more Rick Rampus.  With the birds so down this year I intend on spending more time calling 'yotes and 'cats.  You usually go like "out west" somewhere or like "close to Kansas City" ?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: RickRampus on October 23, 2012, 04:32:48 PM
I like predator calling, does anybody else like predator calling?  By predator I mean coyotes and bobcats in Kansas.

Let's talk more Rick Rampus.  With the birds so down this year I intend on spending more time calling 'yotes and 'cats.  You usually go like "out west" somewhere or like "close to Kansas City" ?

I'm originally from a little town 45 minutes west of the Happiest Place on Earth, but now live in SWKS so I'm not sure on how to hunt them out here, completely different style.

Back home, we will usually have 2-3 guys, the more you have the poorer hunting experience you will have predator hunting.  If we have 3 guys, 1 calls, 1 has a rifle and the other a shotgun.  Sometimes the little buggars can get on top of you so fast you can't get a rifle scope on them in time, hence shotty.  Most times we will set up the rifle guy with the most open area to cover.  Your caller should be away from the rifle guy and closest to the shotgun runner.  We mostly hunt hedgerows and fencelines, pretty much anywhere we can get hidden and see them coming for awhile.  I only use Verminator predator calls, partially because I know the guy that makes them, partially because they are awesome and easy to use.  If you don't mind some redneckian humor and dialect, check out the Verminator video's.

What do you like to do emo?  Electronic call? Rifle?  I'm curious because I think everybody has their own methods. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 8manpick on October 23, 2012, 05:22:35 PM
I blasted some pheasant in SD this weekend. It was lots of fun, but I didn't get to bbs as much as I would have liked.
Title: Re: Re: Killing animals
Post by: mocat on October 23, 2012, 05:51:14 PM
There are quite a few of us bloodfarts so there is plenty of convo going on the entire time.

This part was my favorite
Title: Re: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Bloodfart on October 23, 2012, 06:25:25 PM
There are quite a few of us bloodfarts so there is plenty of convo going on the entire time.

This part was my favorite
Well it's true mocat.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: wetwillie on October 23, 2012, 06:56:07 PM
Pig hunting sounds fun, would like to try.  I hate turkey hunting.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: jtksu on October 23, 2012, 09:26:03 PM
I was actually thinking about trying turkey hunting sometime.  I watched a special on turkey and supposedly wild turkey is like a million times more delicious. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: kim carnes on October 23, 2012, 10:30:41 PM
I was actually thinking about trying turkey hunting sometime.  I watched a special on turkey and supposedly wild turkey is like a million times more delicious.

lol, no
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: jtksu on October 23, 2012, 10:48:51 PM
I was actually thinking about trying turkey hunting sometime.  I watched a special on turkey and supposedly wild turkey is like a million times more delicious.

lol, no

Way more delicious it is!
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Bloodfart on October 23, 2012, 11:21:31 PM
I was actually thinking about trying turkey hunting sometime.  I watched a special on turkey and supposedly wild turkey is like a million times more delicious.

lol, no

Way more delicious it is!
No it just has more little tiny spiney things (tendons?) running through the meat.  LWTAIQ   It makes it harder to eat but other than that it tastes the same.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: jtksu on October 23, 2012, 11:51:54 PM
I was actually thinking about trying turkey hunting sometime.  I watched a special on turkey and supposedly wild turkey is like a million times more delicious.

lol, no

Way more delicious it is!
No it just has more little tiny spiney things (tendons?) running through the meat.  LWTAIQ   It makes it harder to eat but other than that it tastes the same.

The main difference they referred to was the higher concentration of fast twitch muscles in WTs. Domestic turkeys (especially toms) are like 90% white meat.  The hens (which make up the vast majority of whole bird sales) have a bit more dark meat but still aren't the same as wild birds.   They said the toms average over 80lbs!  Interesting stuff.  I know i like pheasant better than the Thanksgiving turkey...
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Asteriskhead on October 24, 2012, 04:25:53 AM
Spring Turkey season is my favorite, as I really enjoy calling them in.

Eating wild turkey is an adventure. It tastes wonderful, but you have to be cautious while eating it. It's not fun to bite down on a BB. That's all I've got.
Title: Re: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rams on October 24, 2012, 07:05:45 AM
I was actually thinking about trying turkey hunting sometime.  I watched a special on turkey and supposedly wild turkey is like a million times more delicious.

lol, no

Way more delicious it is!
actually he's right. wild turkey is tough as crap. you basically have to make soup with it.

btw...in my tree stand right now :dance:
Title: Re: Re: Re: Killing animals
Post by: CNS on October 24, 2012, 07:35:16 AM
I was actually thinking about trying turkey hunting sometime.  I watched a special on turkey and supposedly wild turkey is like a million times more delicious.

lol, no

Way more delicious it is!
actually he's right. wild turkey is tough as crap. you basically have to make soup with it.

btw...in my tree stand right now :dance:
Tree stands w 4g are the absolute best.  Going this wknd

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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: EMAWican on October 24, 2012, 09:13:04 AM
Spring Turkey season is my favorite, as I really enjoy calling them in.

Eating wild turkey is an adventure. It tastes wonderful, but you have to be cautious while eating it. It's not fun to bite down on a BB. That's all I've got.

 :sdeek:  An adventure with BBs in a turkey breast?  Never heard that one before.

Quail is the most hazardous to eat.  Those darn 8 shot BBs in a delicious meat  :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 24, 2012, 10:10:43 AM
I like predator calling, does anybody else like predator calling?  By predator I mean coyotes and bobcats in Kansas.

Let's talk more Rick Rampus.  With the birds so down this year I intend on spending more time calling 'yotes and 'cats.  You usually go like "out west" somewhere or like "close to Kansas City" ?

I'm originally from a little town 45 minutes west of the Happiest Place on Earth, but now live in SWKS so I'm not sure on how to hunt them out here, completely different style.

Back home, we will usually have 2-3 guys, the more you have the poorer hunting experience you will have predator hunting.  If we have 3 guys, 1 calls, 1 has a rifle and the other a shotgun.  Sometimes the little buggars can get on top of you so fast you can't get a rifle scope on them in time, hence shotty.  Most times we will set up the rifle guy with the most open area to cover.  Your caller should be away from the rifle guy and closest to the shotgun runner.  We mostly hunt hedgerows and fencelines, pretty much anywhere we can get hidden and see them coming for awhile.  I only use Verminator predator calls, partially because I know the guy that makes them, partially because they are awesome and easy to use.  If you don't mind some redneckian humor and dialect, check out the Verminator video's.

What do you like to do emo?  Electronic call? Rifle?  I'm curious because I think everybody has their own methods.

I've only been calling a few times, never had one come in (although did see some fresh tracks inside a tree line on a walk out one time).  I made my own e-caller:

(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/182756_836356587701_964518_n.jpg)

It's basically a marine grade speaker in a Quik Trip mug, painted tan.  I have an amplifier that I plug a Blue Tooth module into, then I just play the tracks from my cell phone.  I've got a .223 and a 12ga.  Hope to be learning a lot this fall. 

We called some on the Cimarron two years ago, didn't see anything but looks like great country to call in.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rams on October 24, 2012, 10:38:54 AM
I like predator calling, does anybody else like predator calling?  By predator I mean coyotes and bobcats in Kansas.

Let's talk more Rick Rampus.  With the birds so down this year I intend on spending more time calling 'yotes and 'cats.  You usually go like "out west" somewhere or like "close to Kansas City" ?

I'm originally from a little town 45 minutes west of the Happiest Place on Earth, but now live in SWKS so I'm not sure on how to hunt them out here, completely different style.

Back home, we will usually have 2-3 guys, the more you have the poorer hunting experience you will have predator hunting.  If we have 3 guys, 1 calls, 1 has a rifle and the other a shotgun.  Sometimes the little buggars can get on top of you so fast you can't get a rifle scope on them in time, hence shotty.  Most times we will set up the rifle guy with the most open area to cover.  Your caller should be away from the rifle guy and closest to the shotgun runner.  We mostly hunt hedgerows and fencelines, pretty much anywhere we can get hidden and see them coming for awhile.  I only use Verminator predator calls, partially because I know the guy that makes them, partially because they are awesome and easy to use.  If you don't mind some redneckian humor and dialect, check out the Verminator video's.

What do you like to do emo?  Electronic call? Rifle?  I'm curious because I think everybody has their own methods.

I've only been calling a few times, never had one come in (although did see some fresh tracks inside a tree line on a walk out one time).  I made my own e-caller:

(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/182756_836356587701_964518_n.jpg)

It's basically a marine grade speaker in a Quik Trip mug, painted tan.  I have an amplifier that I plug a Blue Tooth module into, then I just play the tracks from my cell phone.  I've got a .223 and a 12ga.  Hope to be learning a lot this fall. 

We called some on the Cimarron two years ago, didn't see anything but looks like great country to call in.

holy crap

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/27/Macgyver.jpg/200px-Macgyver.jpg)
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: CNS on October 24, 2012, 11:44:29 AM
Pretty sure this gets Emo on some sort of watchlist.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on October 24, 2012, 11:49:00 AM
They said the toms average over 80lbs!  Interesting stuff.

i think they may have been talking about adolescent black bears, not turkeys.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rams on October 24, 2012, 12:12:33 PM
They said the toms average over 80lbs!  Interesting stuff.

i think they may have been talking about adolescent black bears, not turkeys.

lol
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Bloodfart on October 24, 2012, 11:19:08 PM
Are there any trappers/fur harvesters on the board? 

I used to work with a guy that trapped various small animals.  His catches included mostly raccoons, skunks, and occationally wildcats.  He sold the skins to some person in one of the Dakotas.  His truck always had a horrid smell so we made him park in a far corner of the parking lot at work.  He also picked up fresh road kill that he came upon. 

I went with him one time to check his traps and was amazed.  When we got to his trapping area he pulls out a pistol and a club.  I asked him what the club was for and he said "fuckin' pelt guy doesn't appreciate holes in the hide."  We checked about 30 traps that day and I witnessed some pretty brutal stuff.  He was quick about it but still.   
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 25, 2012, 09:28:05 AM
Don't trap or know any trappers but god bless them.  We need more. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rams on October 25, 2012, 09:43:10 AM
a friend of mine used to trap in high school and I would go with him in the morning to check traps. only caught coons and coyotes. nothing more mumped up than seeing a coyote being bludgeoned to death with a billy club. :sdeek:

a guy in town bought the hides. can confirm the retched stink.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: The1BigWillie on October 25, 2012, 09:51:55 AM
a friend of mine used to trap in high school and I would go with him in the morning to check traps. only caught coons and coyotes. nothing more mumped up than seeing a coyote being bludgeoned to death with a billy club. :sdeek:


Would make an incredible YouTube to send to PETA to take some pressure off of our mis-treatement of chickens.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Bloodfart on October 25, 2012, 10:51:09 PM
I'm not sure sys is ready for what killing a pig entails.   :dunno: 

My step brother brought his friend home with him from Manhattan.  He (military vet :cool:) wanted to help us kill pigs for butchering.  We moved one pig into the holding pen, put it down, and bled it out.  Stepbro's friend ran to the house  :runaway: and didn't come back.  We finished up the third pig and went inside to clean up.  He was in the kitchen by himself drinking a glass of water just staring  :eek: out the window.  Dad asked him if he was alright and he said "I have never seen anything so barbaric in all my life." 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on October 25, 2012, 10:55:03 PM
I'm not sure sys is ready for what killing a pig entails.   :dunno: 

i don't want to kill one in hand to hand combat.  i want to shoot one at a distance with a rifle.  it will entail the same thing that shooting a deer entails, but it will taste different.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: kim carnes on October 25, 2012, 11:00:51 PM
I would trap animals, if I was disgusting piece of garbage human being.  But I'm not so I don't. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Bloodfart on October 25, 2012, 11:04:42 PM
I'm not sure sys is ready for what killing a pig entails.   :dunno: 

i don't want to kill one in hand to hand combat.  i want to shoot one at a distance with a rifle.  it will entail the same thing that shooting a deer entails, but it will taste different.

It won't taste right if you don't bleed it out.  The meat will get bloodshot and you will not be able to store it for any amount of time.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: yoga-like_abana on October 25, 2012, 11:56:01 PM
I feel like going fishing in the dark just so I can listen to the nitty gritty dirt band on repeat
Title: Killing animals
Post by: felix rex on October 26, 2012, 04:48:13 AM
I watched a midget decapitate a steer because religion this morning. It was okay but wasn't able to BBS as much as I'd like.
Title: Re: Re: Killing animals
Post by: CNS on October 26, 2012, 07:50:12 AM
I'm not sure sys is ready for what killing a pig entails.   :dunno: 

i don't want to kill one in hand to hand combat.  i want to shoot one at a distance with a rifle.  it will entail the same thing that shooting a deer entails, but it will taste different.

Can confirm.  Is delish

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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: WillieWatanabe on October 26, 2012, 07:51:16 AM
never done it myself, but had friends that did....trapping is fun.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: steve dave on October 26, 2012, 07:55:08 AM
I think I'm going to set up huge bear traps around these traps and trap a trapper and beat the living crap out of them with a huge wooden baseball bat with nails in it and maybe one of those things that's like a bar with a chain on it and on the end of the chain is a spikey ball. then I'll let whatever animal they trapped out and give them, like, a Little Debbie Oatmeal Cream Pie or a hot dog or whatever they're into and send them on their way.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: TheCatFanSpeaks on October 26, 2012, 09:02:49 AM
I watched a midget decapitate a steer because religion this morning.

 :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: The1BigWillie on October 26, 2012, 09:19:47 AM
BECAUSE RELIGION
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 26, 2012, 09:55:27 AM
I'm not sure sys is ready for what killing a pig entails.   :dunno: 

i don't want to kill one in hand to hand combat.  i want to shoot one at a distance with a rifle.  it will entail the same thing that shooting a deer entails, but it will taste different.

You're the one in Cali right?  I have a colleague in Fresberg that shoots pigs all the time.  Also a family friend in Vacaville shot a huge one with a bow.  Basically there are opportunities for you to kill a pig if you go out into the world and seek them.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rams on October 26, 2012, 12:35:33 PM
I watched a midget decapitate a steer because religion this morning. It was okay but wasn't able to BBS as much as I'd like.

amazing post
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on October 26, 2012, 01:49:57 PM
You're the one in Cali right?  I have a colleague in Fresberg that shoots pigs all the time.  Also a family friend in Vacaville shot a huge one with a bow.  Basically there are opportunities for you to kill a pig if you go out into the world and seek them.

have your colleague in fresberg email me to tell me where to go and if landowner permission is needed, to extend access to the mentioned land.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rams on October 29, 2012, 08:58:17 PM
You're the one in Cali right?  I have a colleague in Fresberg that shoots pigs all the time.  Also a family friend in Vacaville shot a huge one with a bow.  Basically there are opportunities for you to kill a pig if you go out into the world and seek them.

have your colleague in fresberg email me to tell me where to go and if landowner permission is needed, to extend access to the mentioned land.

also they need you in texas  http://news.yahoo.com/video/wild-pigs-wrecking-havoc-texas-153331676.html (http://news.yahoo.com/video/wild-pigs-wrecking-havoc-texas-153331676.html)
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: RickRampus on October 30, 2012, 08:21:14 AM
Anybody shoot the new Browning A5?  Not the old, heavy-as-crap ones, but the new ones that came out last year and have a 5-year warranty on it. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Asteriskhead on November 05, 2012, 01:43:24 AM
Bowhunters, any luck yet this season?

I've been out the last three days. I haven't seen anything worth shooting, or had anything in range. I've got tomorrow off, but it looks like I'll be spending it studying, instead of in the stand.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: jtksu on November 05, 2012, 02:04:03 AM
Bowhunters, any luck yet this season?

I've been out the last three days. I haven't seen anything worth shooting, or had anything in range. I've got tomorrow off, but it looks like I'll be spending it studying, instead of in the stand.

My mom tagged a good sized buck a couple days ago with her Taurus.  Her Ford Taurus.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: steve dave on November 05, 2012, 07:03:51 AM
I hit a tiny little baby deer when I was moving from Manhattan to Omaha. Really tore me up inside  :embarrassed:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rams on November 05, 2012, 08:38:07 AM
Bowhunters, any luck yet this season?

I've been out the last three days. I haven't seen anything worth shooting, or had anything in range. I've got tomorrow off, but it looks like I'll be spending it studying, instead of in the stand.

passed on a decent 5x5 yesterday. if it were december I would've taken him. walked right into my stand, stood broadside to me about 15 yards away and stood there staring in the other direction.  I won't get another shot that easy/perfect all year. 

they're still in seeking mode. that should turn to chasing this week and next week they'll be in full rut.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Pexikan on November 05, 2012, 12:08:20 PM
Sighted in my rifle this past weekend. 15 years in, still get a little nervous each time I pull that baby out. Anyways, pretty tight groupings, between 1-2 inches apart from 100yds. Should make a deers end pretty painless this year...
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: pissclams on November 05, 2012, 12:40:29 PM
oh boy fellas, guess who has a bad case of buck fever?  that's right, your old pal pissclams.  can't wait to get my first buck of the year, hopefully my buck fever begins to settle down a bit, who knows though maybe it will just get worse?  the best case scenario is i go full bore buck fever for a month or  so then revert back to just regular, non-buck fever.  i have a few buds that came down with it while we were in colorado for a ksu cats-colorado football game.  you want to talk about a long drive home?  i don't because it was horrible, but that's the case a lot of times with full bore buck fever. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rams on November 05, 2012, 01:31:59 PM
oh boy fellas, guess who has a bad case of buck fever?  that's right, your old pal pissclams.  can't wait to get my first buck of the year, hopefully my buck fever begins to settle down a bit, who knows though maybe it will just get worse?  the best case scenario is i go full bore buck fever for a month or  so then revert back to just regular, non-buck fever.  i have a few buds that came down with it while we were in colorado for a ksu cats-colorado football game.  you want to talk about a long drive home?  i don't because it was horrible, but that's the case a lot of times with full bore buck fever.
'clams post
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 05, 2012, 01:34:53 PM
I have only hunted and am only interested in hunting upland birds.   I used to hunt waterfowl but lost interest and have no interest in being interested in it again.   Not really that interested in hunting anything else besides maybe turkey (wild) hunting. 

Not the least bit interested in hunting deer or any other big game, and I want have any part of the redneck big game hunting they do out this way.

Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 05, 2012, 01:40:55 PM
Too bad there aren't any rough ridin' birds this year.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rams on November 05, 2012, 02:57:31 PM
I have only hunted and am only interested in hunting upland birds.   I used to hunt waterfowl but lost interest and have no interest in being interested in it again.   Not really that interested in hunting anything else besides maybe turkey (wild) hunting. 

Not the least bit interested in hunting deer or any other big game, and I want have any part of the redneck big game hunting they do out this way.
I'm glad we cleared that up
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 8manpick on November 05, 2012, 03:17:40 PM
I have only hunted and am only interested in hunting upland birds.   I used to hunt waterfowl but lost interest and have no interest in being interested in it again.   Not really that interested in hunting anything else besides maybe turkey (wild) hunting. 

Not the least bit interested in hunting deer or any other big game, and I won't have any part of the redneck big game hunting they do out this way.

Me too! :D
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Bloodfart on November 05, 2012, 06:27:29 PM
I have only hunted and am only interested in hunting upland birds.   I used to hunt waterfowl but lost interest and have no interest in being interested in it again.   Not really that interested in hunting anything else besides maybe turkey (wild) hunting. 

Not the least bit interested in hunting deer or any other big game, and I won't have any part of the redneck big game hunting they do out this way.

Me too! :D
Me three!  :D
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: RickRampus on November 06, 2012, 08:48:11 AM
Upland Bird Hunters, what is your weapon of choice?  This message has zero relevance for waterfowl hunters because I do not care about your shotguns that can shoot 3 1/2 inch shells. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 8manpick on November 06, 2012, 09:25:53 AM
Upland Bird Hunters, what is your weapon of choice?  This message has zero relevance for waterfowl hunters because I do not care about your shotguns that can shoot 3 1/2 inch shells. 

12 ga. over under.  Don't really like having more than two shells, cause then I just end up wasting shots with the first couple.  Usually shoot #6 shot, I think 3" shells, but not really sure.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: pissclams on November 06, 2012, 09:34:58 AM
i prefer a o/u 20 to a 12 for upland game, should be light enough to carry around all day also.  probably prefer the look of the 20 sxs.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 06, 2012, 01:39:32 PM
i prefer a o/u 20 to a 12 for upland game, should be light enough to carry around all day also.  probably prefer the look of the 20 sxs.

+1

Right now I'm in a SKB 505 in 20ga most of the time.  The old lady is buying me a light & fast Spanish sxs (AyA or Grulla) in the next year or two.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: steve dave on November 06, 2012, 01:42:00 PM
gun from predator that jesse ventura went rough ridin' nuts with

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4erj5b2CZ1qdkeiao1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Bloodfart on November 06, 2012, 02:35:51 PM
Street sweeper stevedave.  All balls
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: steve dave on November 06, 2012, 02:38:44 PM
I also carry the flamethrower from aliens for pheasants

(http://www.inetres.com/gp/sf/aliens/flamer00.jpg)

Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: steve dave on November 06, 2012, 02:41:00 PM
when I'm on the trail of a really beautiful bull moose I'll sometimes sneak up on it from behind and just bask in it's massive glory. then I'll explode the eff out of it with a grenade tipped arrow from Rambo II.

(http://www.cartertown.com/images/Knives/Rambo/ArrowHeadsLR.jpg)
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: pissclams on November 06, 2012, 02:41:32 PM
^not a real flamethrower
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: steve dave on November 06, 2012, 02:42:36 PM
^not a real flamethrower

literally billions of well done pheasants will argue that with you
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: steve dave on November 06, 2012, 02:46:52 PM
I filled my buck tag first day this year. got a 18 point typical mulie. here's an actual picture of me right before the head shot. got him at 800 yards with my shoulder launched stinger missle four pack:

(http://theactionelite.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/commando-schwarzenegger.jpg)
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Bloodfart on November 06, 2012, 02:51:29 PM
   :lol: x alot
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: RickRampus on November 06, 2012, 03:37:44 PM
gun from predator that jesse ventura went rough ridin' nuts with

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4erj5b2CZ1qdkeiao1_1280.jpg)

rough ridin' Kansas Full Auto Laws  :shakesfist: :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Bloodfart on November 06, 2012, 04:07:34 PM
Steve Dave what method do you recommend for killing fish?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 07, 2012, 12:29:27 AM
I filled my buck tag first day this year. got a 18 point typical mulie. here's an actual picture of me right before the head shot. got him at 800 yards with my shoulder launched stinger missle four pack:

(http://theactionelite.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/commando-schwarzenegger.jpg)

The law says you have to wear blaze orange, cockface.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on November 07, 2012, 12:52:22 AM
20 side by side.  doubles looks so good, and all other guns look like such crap.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rams on November 07, 2012, 08:35:22 AM
been hanging out with this little guy for about 30 minutes. he's having some breakfast and I'm bbs'n and catching up on email.

also, if you're a bowhunter, get in the woods. the chasing phase has officially begun. and be careful on the roads out there everybody.

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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: steve dave on November 07, 2012, 08:41:23 AM
Rams, lay down some anti personel mines for that son of a bitch and hopefully he comes back tommorrow and you can fill you tag.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rams on November 07, 2012, 08:45:44 AM
stop being a dick, sd. he's my friend now. he agrees to keep being adorable by being oblivious and scratching his ear with his hind leg like a dog and I agree to feed him and not kill him and stuff.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: steve dave on November 07, 2012, 08:46:43 AM
stop being a dick, sd. he's my friend now. he agrees to keep being adorable by being oblivious and scratching his ear with his hind leg like a dog and I agree to feed him and not kill him and stuff.

huge anti-gun libtard puss ^
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 07, 2012, 09:50:31 AM
stop being a dick, sd. he's my friend now. he agrees to keep being adorable by being oblivious and scratching his ear with his hind leg like a dog and I agree to feed him and not kill him and stuff.

huge anti-gun libtard puss ^

also (I'm too stupid to find a better word than gay)
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 07, 2012, 10:02:30 AM
I am glad I was able to clear things up. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: CNS on November 07, 2012, 10:13:27 AM
I have three v. large bucks at my feeders every night, but it is always about 30 min after dark.  Need them to move the f up.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rams on November 07, 2012, 10:21:01 AM
I have three v. large bucks at my feeders every night, but it is always about 30 min after dark.  Need them to move the f up.
most of the mature ones are pretty much done eating for the next week or so, so that shouldn't be a problem.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: puniraptor on November 07, 2012, 10:39:26 AM
feeding sounds like cheating. I would hate to get blasted standing in line at the chef.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: pissclams on November 07, 2012, 12:22:12 PM
I have three v. large bucks at my feeders every night, but it is always about 30 min after dark.  Need them to move the f up.
most of the mature ones are pretty much done eating for the next week or so, so that shouldn't be a problem.

'cause they're ready to bone!  who's with me?  BUCK FEVER!
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Bloodfart on November 07, 2012, 12:41:27 PM
I fuckin' looooove killing animals man.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: HELLHAMMER on November 07, 2012, 07:28:57 PM
I killed a rabbit today while chopping corn stalks.  Didn't feel bad about it either.









Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 07, 2012, 07:50:41 PM
I have three v. large bucks at my feeders every night, but it is always about 30 min after dark.  Need them to move the f up.

Pretty sure sd would recommend that you pop some flares next time they show, bust them with claymores.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 18, 2012, 08:52:00 PM
Just finished meal of pheasant and quail I killed myself
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: kim carnes on November 18, 2012, 08:55:50 PM
I killed a rabbit today while chopping corn stalks.  Didn't feel bad about it either.

cool story   :flush:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: wetwillie on November 18, 2012, 09:07:52 PM
Just finished meal of pheasant and quail I killed myself

Mushroom cream sauce?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on November 19, 2012, 11:14:36 PM
just got a protip on the location of some wild pigs.  just need to find some nearby public land and i'm in business.

 :lick:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: steve dave on November 20, 2012, 07:19:19 AM
on a flight sunday I watched two episodes of this show where this family of hicks hunts wild pigs.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rams on November 20, 2012, 07:44:09 AM
just got a protip on the location of some wild pigs.  just need to find some nearby public land and i'm in business.

 :lick:
grats sys! keep us updated and take lots of pictures.  what's the weapon of choice?  :D
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: bubbles4ksu on November 20, 2012, 07:47:38 AM
Will a .22 bullet break the water from an angle less than 45 degrees or does the carp need to be exposed?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rams on November 20, 2012, 08:05:33 AM
Will a .22 bullet break the water from an angle less than 45 degrees or does the carp need to be exposed?
don't be a pussy

(http://petethomas.typepad.com/.a/6a0120a77b966b970b0167627322c7970b-400wi)
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: bubbles4ksu on November 20, 2012, 08:42:30 AM
Will a .22 bullet break the water from an angle less than 45 degrees or does the carp need to be exposed?
don't be a pussy

(http://petethas.typepad.com/.a/6a0120a77b966b970b0167627322c7970b-400wi)

I don't have a bow and will be shooting into 6 inches of running water that used to be a river.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 20, 2012, 10:38:12 AM
Will a .22 bullet break the water from an angle less than 45 degrees or does the carp need to be exposed?

DO NOT use hollow points, they will ricochet for sure.  Use the ones with the round noses.  They should penetrate the water.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: RickRampus on November 20, 2012, 10:45:41 AM
Will a .22 bullet break the water from an angle less than 45 degrees or does the carp need to be exposed?
don't be a pussy

(http://petethas.typepad.com/.a/6a0120a77b966b970b0167627322c7970b-400wi)

I don't have a bow and will be shooting into 6 inches of running water that used to be a river.

fashion a spear
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: bubbles4ksu on November 20, 2012, 11:28:49 AM
DO NOT use hollow points, they will ricochet for sure.  Use the ones with the round noses.  They should penetrate the water.

 :thumbs:

fashion a spear

would be fun, but i have 25 and 30 round clips for my 10/.22 and i haven't shot for a year.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 29, 2012, 08:20:45 AM
Any deer reports?  How's the rut coming along?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rams on November 29, 2012, 08:36:57 AM
Any deer reports?  How's the rut coming along?
rut's pretty much over.  I've seen a ton of deer but no monsters.  passed up on decentish 10 point a couple weeks ago.  walked right up 15 yards from my stand and turned broadside away from me and just stood there.  probably the easiest and cleanest look I've ever had at a buck.  I would've taken him later in the year but it was right in the middle of rut and I was waiting for something bigger. 

anyway, rifle season started yesterday so I'm done for the next couple of weeks.   :frown:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: WillieWatanabe on November 29, 2012, 08:38:10 AM
hadnt heard of many big ones up in the northern kansas this year. Quite a few mountain lion sightings though :ohno:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 29, 2012, 09:01:37 AM
Are they moving much?  Out of town for work this week ( :curse:) and I won't get to hunt until Sunday night.  Hopefully work remotely all of next week and spend mornings and evenings in the stand.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rams on November 29, 2012, 09:22:59 AM
Are they moving much?  Out of town for work this week ( :curse:) and I won't get to hunt until Sunday night.  Hopefully work remotely all of next week and spend mornings and evenings in the stand.
well...peak rut is obviously over but they're still moving.  they're getting more cautious again, but if you're hunting rifle (cheating) you should still be able to get a shot.  rut was (is?) weird this year.  very hit and miss.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 29, 2012, 09:47:14 AM
Vehicles aside I've never killed a deer so I'll try cheating first.  Also a public land hunter.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Pexikan on November 29, 2012, 03:16:11 PM
I'm in my stand right now. Passed on a group of ladies this morning. Ive seen crap for the past hour or so, so ill bbs while I stay quiet. And eff yeah, I cheat.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Fedor on November 29, 2012, 03:35:39 PM
I use a knife if you use a bow you are cheating.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: The1BigWillie on November 29, 2012, 04:01:57 PM
My Grandpa has finished his Mountain Lion trap.  He's going to use a live duck as bait. So really he'll be killing two animals.  Super cool.  Once he catchs it he's going to blow its brains out with a .22.  He'll probably have to shoot it ten times.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: puniraptor on November 29, 2012, 05:04:09 PM
who would want to kill a mountain lion  :frown:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: kim carnes on November 29, 2012, 06:27:43 PM
My Grandpa has finished his Mountain Lion trap.  He's going to use a live duck as bait. So really he'll be killing two animals.  Super cool.  Once he catchs it he's going to blow its brains out with a .22.  He'll probably have to shoot it ten times.

 :flush:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 09, 2013, 12:31:49 PM
Hey Rick Rampus, I finally shot my first 'yote.  Hit a bunch of spots and this one came after only a couple minutes of calling.  Was pretty fun.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: RickRampus on January 09, 2013, 12:56:57 PM
congrats emo, coyotes have always been my favorite because nobody is going to get mad at you for shooting one, they kill my crap, and it is a huge rush to watch one come in if you had been calling them.  Friend of mine has an electronic caller that you can record stuff with and just had a baby girl.  He recorded her crying and has been using it to lure them in, works pretty good. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: steve dave on January 09, 2013, 01:04:09 PM
what are you farming that a coyote is killing? like, guinea pigs?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on January 09, 2013, 01:08:43 PM
i think shooting coyotes is weird and mean.  i loved killing them with greyhounds with my grandfather, though.  pretty hypocritical of me.  a lot of the things i love doing are really cruel to one animal or another, but i love animals.  it's weird.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 09, 2013, 01:11:18 PM
what are you farming that a coyote is killing? like, guinea pigs?

My prized turkey flock.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: steve dave on January 09, 2013, 01:12:14 PM
what are you farming that a coyote is killing? like, guinea pigs?

My prized turkey flock.

an adult turkey would destroy a coyote
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: RickRampus on January 09, 2013, 01:15:12 PM
what are you farming that a coyote is killing? like, guinea pigs?

sheep, c'mon sd we've been over this
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 09, 2013, 01:18:27 PM
what are you farming that a coyote is killing? like, guinea pigs?

My prized turkey flock.

an adult turkey would destroy a coyote

Not one that has been raised to be loving and trusting, sd. 

He just wanted to play.   :bawl:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ChiCat on January 09, 2013, 01:25:00 PM
If you keep standing up for these sheep, they will always live in fear of coyotes.  You need to breed them meaner and nastier to protect themselve.  Teach a man to fish, etc.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 09, 2013, 02:08:42 PM
i think shooting coyotes is weird and mean.  i loved killing them with greyhounds with my grandfather, though.  pretty hypocritical of me.  a lot of the things i love doing are really cruel to one animal or another, but i love animals.  it's weird.

I pretty much agree sys.  As she was coming in closer and closer I had hesitations about shooting her.  But you see I had done all this work and wanted to know how it felt so I shot her.  I felt weird looking at her all warm and dead, especially since I have two dogs that I really like.  Would love to chase them down with 'hounds some day, sounds like fun. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: XocolateThundarr on January 09, 2013, 02:16:18 PM
Coyotes will take down newborn calves.  Always good to have the AR with you this time of year.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: steve dave on January 09, 2013, 02:17:43 PM
Coyotes will take down newborn calves.  Always good to have the AR with you this time of year.

lol, bullshit. you have to have some kind of pud cow to let that happen. I've always known this was an excuse for cow farmers to get their jollys by shooting small dogs.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: XocolateThundarr on January 09, 2013, 02:19:17 PM
Coyotes will take down newborn calves.  Always good to have the AR with you this time of year.

lol, bullshit. you have to have some kind of pud cow to let that happen.

Sometimes momma is a Jersey Shore parent and doesn't take care of her little one.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on January 10, 2013, 12:33:12 AM
I pretty much agree sys.  As she was coming in closer and closer I had hesitations about shooting her.  But you see I had done all this work and wanted to know how it felt so I shot her.  I felt weird looking at her all warm and dead, especially since I have two dogs that I really like.  Would love to chase them down with 'hounds some day, sounds like fun.

yep, i know the feeling.  would have done the same, you have to finish what you start.


it's super fun.  the dogs are so happy to be killing their little cousins, it's infectious.  also they're really fast and beautiful when they run.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: bones129 on January 10, 2013, 01:08:01 AM
Coyotes are very interesting animals, IMHO.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coyote

I may develop a coyote emoticon. But coyotes will never surpass Wildcats.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: jtksu on January 10, 2013, 01:52:46 AM
i think shooting coyotes is weird and mean.  i loved killing them with greyhounds with my grandfather, though.  pretty hypocritical of me.  a lot of the things i love doing are really cruel to one animal or another, but i love animals.  it's weird.

The cool thing about using grayhounds to hunt 'yotes is there's a decent chance those dogs will just keep on running if they don't find a coyote. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: kitten_mittons on January 10, 2013, 06:07:44 AM
I listened to a radiolab about a family's dog that was baited and killed by coyotes. Was pretty sad.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 10, 2013, 08:42:41 AM
I've had coyotes try to bait my bird dogs when hunting.  They act all friendly and try to get them to follow.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: puniraptor on January 10, 2013, 08:50:15 AM
I think it's terrifying that the sound of a crying human baby lures them in. I was against killing them until after I read that.


...But what if they are just coming over to help?   :frown:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Institutional Control on January 10, 2013, 08:51:13 AM
Coyotes have no redeeming value. Kill em all.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: steve dave on January 10, 2013, 09:03:00 AM
Coyotes are great. It's not their fault your dogs are retards/puds.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Bloodfart on January 10, 2013, 09:15:08 AM
I like listening to the coyotes howl at the moon.  You really don't see them around much but when there's a full moon and they start howling man you really get a sense of how many are lurking out there. 

Then dad's dogs join in and the coyotes go silent.  It's like they are trolling the dogs.  Hey dogs we're having a party wanna join in nope sorry you're not invited.  Ha you really thought we wanted you to join the party now you just sound stupid howling by yourselves.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: RickRampus on January 10, 2013, 09:17:48 AM
I think it's terrifying that the sound of a crying human baby lures them in. I was against killing them until after I read that.


...But what if they are just coming over to help?   :frown:

I've read somewhere that the coyote is lured in more out or curiosity of the noise rather than wanting to eat the noise, fwiw
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: pissclams on January 10, 2013, 09:37:09 AM
one time i was in my office park and there was this railing outside, along the side of a sidewalk.
this dumbass coyote was running and ran right into the railing and jammed his head in between the vertical spindles and couldn't get it out.
there was blood and stuff but no matter how hard he tried to get his head unjammed, he was stuck.  felt bad for him.  he was just looking around at stuff being scared.

animal control came and took him away (not sure how, i went to lunch).
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Institutional Control on January 10, 2013, 09:40:05 AM
one time i was in my office park and there was this railing outside, along the side of a sidewalk.
this dumbass coyote was running and ran right into the railing and jammed his head in between the vertical spindles and couldn't get it out.
there was blood and stuff but no matter how hard he tried to get his head unjammed, he was stuck.  felt bad for him.  he was just looking around at stuff being scared.

animal control came and took him away (not sure how, i went to lunch).

They probably cut his head off.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 10, 2013, 10:19:59 AM
Agree that they're more curious than anything else.  Will come to elephant sounds and pretty much anything even if they don't recognize it.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: pissclams on January 10, 2013, 10:20:55 AM
i do a pretty good crow impression.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 10, 2013, 10:22:06 AM
i do a pretty good crow impression.

Record and post to youtube or something?  I'm in need of a good crow call.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Bloodfart on February 19, 2013, 06:22:26 PM
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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Bloodfart on March 16, 2013, 11:26:48 PM
I Killed 3 hogs friday afternoon.  Three shots three kills.  The Bloodfart family processed about 2000 lbs of meat today. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: kim carnes on March 16, 2013, 11:28:52 PM
I Killed 3 hogs friday afternoon.  Three shots three kills.  The Bloodfart family processed about 2000 lbs of meat today.

murderer
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Bloodfart on March 16, 2013, 11:30:31 PM
I gots a family to feed.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: kim carnes on March 17, 2013, 12:08:22 AM
Well then, by all means
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: jtksu on March 17, 2013, 12:34:01 AM
I Killed 3 hogs friday afternoon.  Three shots three kills.  The Bloodfart family processed about 2000 lbs of meat today.

Iike feral hogs or just regular hogs? Either way, I'm jealous cause that's a whole lot of delicious pork.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on March 17, 2013, 02:16:06 AM
you can buy pork at the store, you don't have to do this yourself.

 :dunno:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: jtksu on March 17, 2013, 02:27:22 AM
you can buy pork at the store, you don't have to do this yourself.

 :dunno:

True but it's cheaper to do it yourself, you can control the animals living conditions before slaughter, choose which cuts of meat you want, what feed the animal eats, etc... It's not for everyone but it's certainly a better way if you are able to do it.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ChiCat on March 17, 2013, 12:00:09 PM
you can buy pork at the store, you don't have to do this yourself.

 :dunno:

True but it's cheaper to do it yourself, you can control the animals living conditions before slaughter, choose which cuts of meat you want, what feed the animal eats, etc... It's not for everyone but it's certainly a better way if you are able to do it.

If he's bragging about 3 shots, 3 kills then I don't think he is raising them and controlling what they eat.  That or he is the worst pig farmer ever.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on March 17, 2013, 12:10:09 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: jtksu on March 17, 2013, 01:19:21 PM
you can buy pork at the store, you don't have to do this yourself.

 :dunno:

True but it's cheaper to do it yourself, you can control the animals living conditions before slaughter, choose which cuts of meat you want, what feed the animal eats, etc... It's not for everyone but it's certainly a better way if you are able to do it.

If he's bragging about 3 shots, 3 kills then I don't think he is raising them and controlling what they eat.  That or he is the worst pig farmer ever.

Yeah, I asked earlier about if they were domestic or feral hogs. I'll be the first to admit I know little about the butchering of pigs, I thought maybe he was just excited because the animals were killed as humanely as possible. :dunno:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Bloodfart on March 17, 2013, 04:09:42 PM
The pigs were domestic, raised by our neighbor down the road.  I shot them once in the head and then stuck them with a long knife down through the neck and into their heart causing them to bleed out very fast.  It takes less than 10 secs.  Then we hang the animal by it's hind legs and wash it off thoroughly with soap and water.  We skin it, gut it, quarter it, and then place it in a freezer.  Wash rinse repeat. 

We don't kill the cows anymore, just take them to the local locker to have them killed and aged for 5 days in their freezer.  When I was little we used to kill the beef in the dead of winter and hang them in the shed because we didn't have a large walk in freezer.  Later in the week we made a big fire to heat a huge vat of water to scald the pigs (after killing them) so we could scrape the hair off and save the skins to sell to the locker along with the cow hides.  We also rendered the pig lard for cooking so there's that too.  I don't miss those days.

Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rams on March 18, 2013, 02:14:15 PM
The pigs were domestic, raised by our neighbor down the road.  I shot them once in the head and then stuck them with a long knife down through the neck and into their heart causing them to bleed out very fast.  It takes less than 10 secs.  Then we hang the animal by it's hind legs and wash it off thoroughly with soap and water.  We skin it, gut it, quarter it, and then place it in a freezer.  Wash rinse repeat. 

We don't kill the cows anymore, just take them to the local locker to have them killed and aged for 5 days in their freezer.  When I was little we used to kill the beef in the dead of winter and hang them in the shed because we didn't have a large walk in freezer.  Later in the week we made a big fire to heat a huge vat of water to scald the pigs (after killing them) so we could scrape the hair off and save the skins to sell to the locker along with the cow hides.  We also rendered the pig lard for cooking so there's that too.  I don't miss those days.
I probably shouldn't be as jealous about this post as I am.  :embarrassed:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: steve dave on March 18, 2013, 02:26:08 PM
The pigs were domestic, raised by our neighbor down the road.  I shot them once in the head and then stuck them with a long knife down through the neck and into their heart causing them to bleed out very fast.  It takes less than 10 secs.  Then we hang the animal by it's hind legs and wash it off thoroughly with soap and water.  We skin it, gut it, quarter it, and then place it in a freezer.  Wash rinse repeat. 

We don't kill the cows anymore, just take them to the local locker to have them killed and aged for 5 days in their freezer.  When I was little we used to kill the beef in the dead of winter and hang them in the shed because we didn't have a large walk in freezer.  Later in the week we made a big fire to heat a huge vat of water to scald the pigs (after killing them) so we could scrape the hair off and save the skins to sell to the locker along with the cow hides.  We also rendered the pig lard for cooking so there's that too.  I don't miss those days.

sickening
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 18, 2013, 02:36:15 PM
I agree; I prefer to completely ignore how my food gets to the table. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: pissclams on March 18, 2013, 02:37:27 PM
The pigs were domestic, raised by our neighbor down the road.  I shot them once in the head and then stuck them with a long knife down through the neck and into their heart causing them to bleed out very fast.  It takes less than 10 secs.  Then we hang the animal by it's hind legs and wash it off thoroughly with soap and water.  We skin it, gut it, quarter it, and then place it in a freezer.  Wash rinse repeat. 

We don't kill the cows anymore, just take them to the local locker to have them killed and aged for 5 days in their freezer.  When I was little we used to kill the beef in the dead of winter and hang them in the shed because we didn't have a large walk in freezer.  Later in the week we made a big fire to heat a huge vat of water to scald the pigs (after killing them) so we could scrape the hair off and save the skins to sell to the locker along with the cow hides.  We also rendered the pig lard for cooking so there's that too.  I don't miss those days.



the new SOC guy, joe teti, on dual survivor did the knife to neck thing to a feral pig during the hawaii episode.  was pretty elite.  no gun required.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Bloodfart on March 18, 2013, 03:07:55 PM
My dad won't kill animals anymore because he says he's too old and it weighs on his mind too much.  The duty fell on my shoulders when no one else would do it. I didn't think it was that big of a deal but sometimes when I'm by myself I think about it. 

To make amends I also volunteer to be the bunghole remover.  That entails cutting around the sphincter and pulling it out just far enough to tie it off with a piece of string then stuff it back down the hole. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Mr Bread on March 18, 2013, 04:39:58 PM
My dad won't kill animals anymore because he says he's too old and it weighs on his mind too much.  The duty fell on my shoulders when no one else would do it. I didn't think it was that big of a deal but sometimes when I'm by myself I think about it. 

To make amends I also volunteer to be the bunghole remover.  That entails cutting around the sphincter and pulling it out just far enough to tie it off with a piece of string then stuff it back down the hole.

To make amends to the pig you shot and stabbed you eff around with its bad person? 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: CNS on March 18, 2013, 04:41:53 PM
Yeah, maybe to make amends, you should feed them better while they are alive or something.  Seems like your plan just gives you two things to worry yourself about.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Bloodfart on March 18, 2013, 04:52:24 PM
My dad won't kill animals anymore because he says he's too old and it weighs on his mind too much.  The duty fell on my shoulders when no one else would do it. I didn't think it was that big of a deal but sometimes when I'm by myself I think about it. 

To make amends I also volunteer to be the bunghole remover.  That entails cutting around the sphincter and pulling it out just far enough to tie it off with a piece of string then stuff it back down the hole.

To make amends to the pig you shot and stabbed you eff around with its bad person?

I take it as the pig getting the last laugh.  Gas usually belches out into my face while I'm performing the delicate procedure.   :dunno:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 18, 2013, 04:54:51 PM
My dad won't kill animals anymore because he says he's too old and it weighs on his mind too much.  The duty fell on my shoulders when no one else would do it. I didn't think it was that big of a deal but sometimes when I'm by myself I think about it. 

To make amends I also volunteer to be the bunghole remover.  That entails cutting around the sphincter and pulling it out just far enough to tie it off with a piece of string then stuff it back down the hole.

To make amends to the pig you shot and stabbed you eff around with its bad person?

I take it as the pig getting the last laugh.  Gas usually belches out into my face while I'm performing the delicate procedure.   :dunno:

Is this where Bloodfart comes from?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Bloodfart on March 18, 2013, 04:56:27 PM
My dad won't kill animals anymore because he says he's too old and it weighs on his mind too much.  The duty fell on my shoulders when no one else would do it. I didn't think it was that big of a deal but sometimes when I'm by myself I think about it. 

To make amends I also volunteer to be the bunghole remover.  That entails cutting around the sphincter and pulling it out just far enough to tie it off with a piece of string then stuff it back down the hole.

To make amends to the pig you shot and stabbed you eff around with its bad person?

I take it as the pig getting the last laugh.  Gas usually belches out into my face while I'm performing the delicate procedure.   :dunno:

Is this where Bloodfart comes from?

maybe!  :surprised:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Mr Bread on March 18, 2013, 04:58:31 PM
My dad won't kill animals anymore because he says he's too old and it weighs on his mind too much.  The duty fell on my shoulders when no one else would do it. I didn't think it was that big of a deal but sometimes when I'm by myself I think about it. 

To make amends I also volunteer to be the bunghole remover.  That entails cutting around the sphincter and pulling it out just far enough to tie it off with a piece of string then stuff it back down the hole.

To make amends to the pig you shot and stabbed you eff around with its bad person?

I take it as the pig getting the last laugh.  Gas usually belches out into my face while I'm performing the delicate procedure.   :dunno:

"Murdered" is roughly equivalent to "face farted in" in my book too.  I bet the pig is LOLing his ass off up in pig heaven. :lol:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on March 18, 2013, 05:05:17 PM
If I ran into a group of plastic people that weren't moving and some creature was faking a human's voice to get me to get closer and I got my brains blown out I would say I'm pretty dumb and would be surprised I hadn't died sooner.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: jtksu on March 18, 2013, 08:38:20 PM
If I ran into a group of plastic people that weren't moving and some creature was faking a human's voice to get me to get closer and I got my brains blown out I would say I'm pretty dumb and would be surprised I hadn't died sooner.

If you happen to be delicious, it's win/win.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on March 19, 2013, 09:32:36 AM
ben ji's experience killing animals-


1 time when I was fishing I caught a large bass(Around 4lbs) but it was hooked in the gills and bleeding like crazy. Released it back in the water but about 5 minutes later it came floating back up.

Use to spend a couple of weeks each summer on the grandparents farm in western ks. I would usually spend half the day walking around the farm with a .22 shooting rabbits. We would feed the dead rabbits to the pigs.

Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rams on August 23, 2013, 09:39:52 PM
can you guys believe it's about that time again?  :excited:

just picked this beauty up today and sighted it in. 

(http://simage1.sportsmansguide.com/adimgs/l/2/236497_ts.jpg)
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: steve dave on August 23, 2013, 09:41:16 PM
what on earth
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on August 23, 2013, 09:44:47 PM
what on earth

Exercise machine.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: bones129 on August 23, 2013, 09:54:00 PM

 :runaway:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: CNS on August 23, 2013, 09:55:08 PM
Looks a lot like the one I bought last yr. Feels weird that it is coming  up soon.

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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: steve dave on August 23, 2013, 10:03:20 PM
question: if you are going to buy something that elaborate and seemingly highly engineered to shoot an arrow (?) at an animal why don't you just shoot a gun or laser or missile from a remote controlled drone?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: CNS on August 23, 2013, 10:05:49 PM
Not as complicated as it appears

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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rams on August 23, 2013, 10:09:33 PM
Looks a lot like the one I bought last yr. Feels weird that it is coming  up soon.

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I've been hunting with this model for the past 15 years

(http://thumbs4.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mnWrIceNoazYOACZQTsSMcw.jpg)

so yeah...it's a bit of an upgrade.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rams on August 23, 2013, 10:12:36 PM
question: if you are going to buy something that elaborate and seemingly highly engineered to shoot an arrow (?) at an animal why don't you just shoot a gun or laser or missile from a remote controlled drone?
:facepalm:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: CNS on August 23, 2013, 10:15:43 PM
You are going to love the new.

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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rams on August 23, 2013, 10:20:04 PM
You are going to love the new.

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I already do.  going to set up my stands in the next week or so. 

what model bow do you have?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: CNS on August 23, 2013, 10:32:15 PM
Honestly don't remember.  Haven't pulled it out in months and just bought it near the end of last season.

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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: EMAWmeister on November 06, 2013, 12:14:51 AM
This isn't about killing animals necessarily, but I've been thinking about taking up trap shooting as a hobby.  What kinda shotgun should I get? Preferably one that is inexpensive, reliable, and most of all, safe.

Thinking maybe a Benelli Nova?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 8manpick on November 06, 2013, 12:58:50 AM
This isn't about killing animals necessarily, but I've been thinking about taking up trap shooting as a hobby.  What kinda shotgun should I get? Preferably one that is inexpensive, reliable, and most of all, safe.

Thinking maybe a Benelli Nova?

Trap shooting itself can be fairly expensive as far as hobbies go. Shells have gotten fairly expensive, plus range membership, gun, etc. Just fair warning, obviously as a :kstategrad: no big deal.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: nicname on November 06, 2013, 01:20:08 AM
I've never hunted in my life.  Been thinking about getting a gat and going sometime.  I'm thinking of either starting with birds of some sort or going straight into big game (ie. bears or something).  I don't know if I would feel good killing some kind of grazing animal like a deer.  I would rather kill something that would just as soon kill me.  Plus, a giant stuffed bead would look pretty great in my living room, nomsayin?!?!

this is srs post. srs.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: slackcat on November 06, 2013, 04:36:19 AM
This isn't about killing animals necessarily, but I've been thinking about taking up trap shooting as a hobby.  What kinda shotgun should I get? Preferably one that is inexpensive, reliable, and most of all, safe.

Thinking maybe a Benelli Nova?

Trap shooting itself can be fairly expensive as far as hobbies go. Shells have gotten fairly expensive, plus range membership, gun, etc. Just fair warning, obviously as a :kstategrad: no big deal.


What 8manpick said, cost shouldn't matter.  That aside trap shooting is fun.  Def go over/under, accept both 2.75 and 3 inch shell.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 06, 2013, 07:39:57 AM
CZ would make a nice trap gun for your specs.  The Mallard I think? 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on November 06, 2013, 08:33:03 AM
I don't know how good I would be at hunting but I am an AMAZING trapper.

Since May I have trapped and killed OVER 30 mice in my backyard/side of house using a variety of lures. I started out using peanut butter but have recently switched to Halloween candy, results have been promising. 

The mongrel vermin seem to attack in WAVES... I will kill 6-9 mice in a week then the traps will go silent...I stop being vigilant and sure enough 4 weeks later BOOM! I see some lil guyz scampering around by the shed....set up some traps and kill a solid half dozen. 

So far we have had only 1 confirmed security breach and that unlucky vermin was dispatched by my final line of defense...a housecat named baby.  :D
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on November 06, 2013, 08:34:25 AM
Since May I have trapped and killed OVER 30 mice in my backyard/side of house using a variety of lures.

 :frown:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Tobias on November 06, 2013, 08:46:00 AM
if i ever see a magna on the side of the road with slashed tires and/or blood stains, i'll know sys is in town
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: CNS on November 06, 2013, 09:11:29 AM
I don't know how good I would be at hunting but I am an AMAZING trapper.

Since May I have trapped and killed OVER 30 mice in my backyard/side of house using a variety of lures. I started out using peanut butter but have recently switched to Halloween candy, results have been promising



So you basically just ignored it when I dropped this awesome elite advice months ago....
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on November 06, 2013, 09:25:40 AM
I don't know how good I would be at hunting but I am an AMAZING trapper.

Since May I have trapped and killed OVER 30 mice in my backyard/side of house using a variety of lures. I started out using peanut butter but have recently switched to Halloween candy, results have been promising



So you basically just ignored it when I dropped this awesome elite advice months ago....

Nope, bought a snickers bar and it worked great but then I killed all of that wave and never bought another snickers bar. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: wiley on November 06, 2013, 09:58:01 AM
going lion fish hunting in December around Puerto Rico   :emawkid:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on November 06, 2013, 10:26:49 AM
going lion fish hunting in December around Puerto Rico   :emawkid:

explain so I don't have to google.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: puniraptor on November 06, 2013, 11:30:35 AM
going lion fish hunting in December around Puerto Rico   :emawkid:

explain so I don't have to google.

invasive species with no predators outcompeting everything. only catchable by spear fishing.

sometimes they have bounties and derbys to kill as many as possible.

venomous and also tasty.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on November 06, 2013, 11:47:11 AM
This isn't about killing animals necessarily, but I've been thinking about taking up trap shooting as a hobby.  What kinda shotgun should I get? Preferably one that is inexpensive, reliable, and most of all, safe.

Thinking maybe a Benelli Nova?

Just get a good used 12 GA Remington 870 with a ribbed barrel for around $200 or less to see if you enjoy it.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: wiley on November 06, 2013, 11:48:49 AM
going lion fish hunting in December around Puerto Rico   :emawkid:

explain so I don't have to google.

(http://images.nationalgeographic.com/wpf/media-live/photos/000/341/cache/sharks-eating-lionfish-diver_34123_600x450.jpg)
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: slobber on November 06, 2013, 11:49:37 AM
This isn't about killing animals necessarily, but I've been thinking about taking up trap shooting as a hobby.  What kinda shotgun should I get? Preferably one that is inexpensive, reliable, and most of all, safe.

Thinking maybe a Benelli Nova?

Just get a good used 12 GA Remington 870 with a ribbed barrel for around $200 or less to see if you enjoy it.
Yes to this. I have an 870 Express. It is a great gun to shoot a few times a year. If you fall in love, then go crazy and spend some extra money.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 06, 2013, 11:56:43 AM
The O/U's hold their value better so if you don't like it just sell it.  With the 870 you basically just dump it in a lake for fish habitat.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: nicname on November 07, 2013, 12:39:23 AM
This makes me sad.

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/11/10/world/africa/rhino-extinct-species-report/index.html

Farewell friend.

(http://petchary.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/1133780black-rhinoceros-running-namibia-posters.jpg)
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rams on November 07, 2013, 11:20:24 AM
 :dance:

(http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/pp138/bdr0380/goEMAWDeer1_zps69b2f804.jpg)

(http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/pp138/bdr0380/goEMAWDeer2_zps2cde4bef.jpg)

(http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/pp138/bdr0380/DeerPic3_zps2a9caa24.jpg)
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: The Big Train on November 07, 2013, 11:26:21 AM
:dance:

(http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/pp138/bdr0380/goEMAWDeer1_zps69b2f804.jpg)

(http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/pp138/bdr0380/goEMAWDeer2_zps2cde4bef.jpg)

(http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/pp138/bdr0380/DeerPic3_zps2a9caa24.jpg)

 :thumbs:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: CNS on November 07, 2013, 11:32:54 AM
 :surprised:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on November 07, 2013, 11:36:04 AM
Bow hunter Eh?

My buddy has been going out to his land every Saturday morning doing some bow hunting but has yet to find a deer worth killing.


In other news I killed another mouse last night by the shed. TAKE THAT YOU FILTHY LIL MONGREL!!!
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: slobber on November 07, 2013, 11:52:12 AM
 :thumbs: Looks pretty thick! Where abouts did that killing take place? I have buds here in NC that dream of hunting in KS. I want to show them those photos and tell them how close it was to where I grew up.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: slobber on November 07, 2013, 11:54:30 AM
This makes me sad.

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/11/10/world/africa/rhino-extinct-species-report/index.html

Farewell friend.

(http://petchary.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/1133780black-rhinoceros-running-namibia-posters.jpg)

New species are found all of the time, other species are going extinct all of the time. Cycle of life and all, I guess. However, when it is a big majestic animal like that, I agree, it makes me sad.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: CNS on November 07, 2013, 11:57:10 AM
Can't clone them or something?  Also, lets get to work on some dinosaurs.  Bring back the plant eating ones with really long necks and make them taste like bacon or something.  Boom world hunger solved.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rams on November 07, 2013, 01:21:08 PM
:thumbs: Looks pretty thick! Where abouts did that killing take place? I have buds here in NC that dream of hunting in KS. I want to show them those photos and tell them how close it was to where I grew up.
according to my estimates on google maps, it was about 200 feet outside lawrence city limits and about 2000 feet south of I-70.

if you really want to make them jealous, show them this picture.

(http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/pp138/bdr0380/IMG951133_zps973d24a7.png)

 I have no idea who that is other than a friend of a friend of mine.  I was told it was shot near the end of october somewhere outside of sterling, kansas.  apparently it green scored as a pending state record.  they have to let it dry before it's official.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: slobber on November 07, 2013, 01:51:25 PM
:thumbs: Looks pretty thick! Where abouts did that killing take place? I have buds here in NC that dream of hunting in KS. I want to show them those photos and tell them how close it was to where I grew up.
according to my estimates on google maps, it was about 200 feet outside lawrence city limits and about 2000 feet south of I-70.

if you really want to make them jealous, show them this picture.

(http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/pp138/bdr0380/IMG951133_zps973d24a7.png)

 I have no idea who that is other than a friend of a friend of mine.  I was told it was shot near the end of october somewhere outside of sterling, kansas.  apparently it green scored as a pending state record.  they have to let it dry before it's official.
Wow. So much going on there. I have saved that photo for later!
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SEK_EMAW on November 07, 2013, 06:02:57 PM
Great buck, Rams! :thumbs: (the one you killed, not the friend of a friends...tho, that's a giant)
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Bloodfart on November 08, 2013, 09:33:36 AM
(http://themoocher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/pheasant.jpg)

 I see you.   :excited:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 08, 2013, 09:56:49 AM
Hey BF where ya headed?  Haven't heard many good reports.  :frown:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: RickRampus on November 08, 2013, 10:10:41 AM
NCKS will have birds, count it
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 8manpick on November 08, 2013, 10:16:43 AM
:( can't go this weekend.  Went in south dakota a few weeks ago though
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 08, 2013, 10:25:24 AM
NCKS will have birds, count it

The Smokey Hills brood survey indicated a year-over-year decrease of 40 percent.  Only 0.17 birds per mile.  :frown:

Compare that to the entire state of South Dakota:

Quote
The 2013 report indicates an index of 1.52 pheasants per mile, down from 4.19 pheasants per mile last year.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Bloodfart on November 08, 2013, 12:54:11 PM
Hey BF where ya headed?  Haven't heard many good reports.  :frown:

My dad's ground in south east Reno county.  Our group will have about 20 guys.  We'll walk 3 miles of hedge rows, 2 fifteen acre pastures then hit the milo fields which could last all day if we feel like it.

I can hear the little rascals crowing out there every evening so there's something out there.  Hopefully all the moisture this year helped them rebound.   :crossfingers:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: RickRampus on November 08, 2013, 02:00:24 PM
NCKS will have birds, count it

The Smokey Hills brood survey indicated a year-over-year decrease of 40 percent.  Only 0.17 birds per mile.  :frown:

Compare that to the entire state of South Dakota:

Quote
The 2013 report indicates an index of 1.52 pheasants per mile, down from 4.19 pheasants per mile last year.
500 acres of crp, surronded by alfalfa fields and corn and bean fields.  I'm optimistic
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Bloodfart on November 08, 2013, 02:18:39 PM
Their gizzards are always full of wheat and milo around here.  I've never really seen any corn or beans in there before but what do I know.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 08, 2013, 02:43:29 PM
Well I'm interested to hear how you both do, for better or for worse.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Bloodfart on November 08, 2013, 03:42:56 PM
Hey BF where ya headed?  Haven't heard many good reports.  :frown:

My dad's ground in south east Reno county.  Our group will have about 20 guys.  We'll walk 3 miles of hedge rows, 2 fifteen acre pastures then hit the milo fields which could last all day if we feel like it.

I can hear the little rascals crowing out there every evening so there's something out there.  Hopefully all the moisture this year helped them rebound.   :crossfingers:

Scratch the milo fields.  I just got done exhausting all my contacts with the fuckin farmers in tha area.  Looks like we will be walking sweet ass water ways and CRP all day!   :fatty:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 11, 2013, 08:56:59 AM
3 coveys:  8 birds, 5 birds, 3 birds.  Only saw one hen, too.  Glad I spent two weeks in MT. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SEK_EMAW on November 12, 2013, 10:08:29 AM
Any good reports out there?  Had one good report from McPherson, but the guy that told me is typically full of crap, so I don't believe a lot of what he says.

Pretty sad how far the bird numbers have fallen since 2010.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: TheCatFanSpeaks on November 12, 2013, 10:20:29 AM
Any good reports out there?  Had one good report from McPherson, but the guy that told me is typically full of crap, so I don't believe a lot of what he says.

Pretty sad how far the bird numbers have fallen since 2010.

Wife was back visiting her grandparents this weekend, north of Salina, and all reports she heard were that birds were pretty thin again this year.   :frown:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: slobber on November 12, 2013, 10:38:01 AM
Anybody here remember bird hunting in the mid to late eighties? My memory says it was frickin' awesome and bird slayings were at an all-time high.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 12, 2013, 10:44:12 AM
Anybody here remember bird hunting in the mid to late eighties? My memory says it was frickin' awesome and bird slayings were at an all-time high.

Didn't start hunting till early 2000's, but I remember then a few college kids could walk around without dogs and kill their share.  I remember some great years around 2006-2008.  I kinda lament taking older people hunting because all they do is talk about how great it used to be.  Buncha Nancy Neg's.  I've been trying to diversify to get more out of the outdoors in these lean bird years, like deer hunting and calling yotes.  Might go on my first proper duck hunt soon.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: CNS on November 12, 2013, 10:53:20 AM
Anybody here remember bird hunting in the mid to late eighties? My memory says it was frickin' awesome and bird slayings were at an all-time high.

Piles and piles.  Limiting out was nothing.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 12, 2013, 10:54:07 AM
Stop it Casey.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: CNS on November 12, 2013, 10:57:11 AM
Used to go hunting for Pheasant and just happen upon limiting out on quail.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 12, 2013, 10:58:32 AM
 :curse:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: CNS on November 12, 2013, 10:58:47 AM
When I was an early teen, part of me didn't like hunting because it used to take so long to clean all of the birds I knew we would shoot every single time we went out.

Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 12, 2013, 11:04:44 AM
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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: slobber on November 12, 2013, 11:05:00 AM
Used to go hunting for Pheasant and just happen upon limiting out on quail.
YES! We never went pheasant or quail hunting. We went bird hunting! And hunting? More like slaying!
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: CNS on November 12, 2013, 11:09:28 AM
Guys, we hunted most of the time on public ground too. 

"Oh look, those guys just hunted that field"

"Welp, guess we may have to walk this field and one other to get our limit today"

Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: TheCatFanSpeaks on November 12, 2013, 12:05:32 PM
Got these about an hour south of KC, but, let's be honest, I should have had my limit. Mallard migration should be starting pretty soon.  Get out there, Emo!

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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: wiley on November 14, 2013, 08:22:40 PM
Basically all through the 90's and early 2000's 8-10 of us would hit our group limit on sat and sun.  Stopped around 04 because the bird population wasnt so hot and people started bow hunting instead.  5 years ago started pheasant hunting out around hill city.  Felt like the good ol' days.  But last 2 years were so-so.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Bloodfart on November 14, 2013, 08:30:04 PM
Walked 6 miles saw 4 birds, 3 cocks and 1 hen.  Went home and was cleaning my bird and a lone quail landed in my yard.  Went inside and grabbed my BB gun and wasted that sucker.  10 pumps... one kill.   :gocho:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: The Big Train on November 14, 2013, 11:45:51 PM
Walked 6 miles saw 4 birds, 3 cocks and 1 hen.  Went home and was cleaning my bird and a lone quail landed in my yard.  Went inside and grabbed my BB gun and wasted that sucker.  10 pumps... one kill.   :gocho:

STUD!!!
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Post by: RickRampus on November 16, 2013, 12:20:23 PM
29 roosters and 4 quail on opening weekend. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 18, 2013, 09:18:44 AM
29 roosters and 4 quail on opening weekend.

Hey that's not bad! 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: kslim on November 27, 2013, 08:45:39 AM
anyone have a good turkey spot around lawrence i can take the in-laws to this friday?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on December 02, 2013, 11:02:43 AM
So I was in Western KS over the holiday and we visited some farmland that my dad will inherit. We were walking around and saw TWO separate groups of Pheasant in about 20 minutes.

I've never been Pheasant hunting before but some of my buds are pretty big into it, may pop my cherry next year.

Regarding KS Hunting licenses....Can you do this online or will I need to go to a 10 hour class?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on December 02, 2013, 12:52:51 PM
So I was in Western KS over the holiday and we visited some farmland that my dad will inherit. We were walking around and saw TWO separate groups of Pheasant in about 20 minutes.

I've never been Pheasant hunting before but some of my buds are pretty big into it, may pop my cherry next year.

Regarding KS Hunting licenses....Can you do this online or will I need to go to a 10 hour class?

Have you done any hunter's ed before?  You can do it online.

http://www.kdwpt.state.ks.us/news/Services/Education/Hunter/Internet-assisted-Course
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on December 02, 2013, 12:59:46 PM
So I was in Western KS over the holiday and we visited some farmland that my dad will inherit. We were walking around and saw TWO separate groups of Pheasant in about 20 minutes.

I've never been Pheasant hunting before but some of my buds are pretty big into it, may pop my cherry next year.

Regarding KS Hunting licenses....Can you do this online or will I need to go to a 10 hour class?

Have you done any hunter's ed before?  You can do it online.

http://www.kdwpt.state.ks.us/news/Services/Education/Hunter/Internet-assisted-Course

No hunters ed so I will have to take that course emo, thanks!

Quick question for you emo...How much land would I need for Pheasant hunting? The land where we saw the pheasants is 480 acres or 3 quarter sections(as my dad calls them). 2/3 are farmed every year mainly dryland wheat, the other section stays fallow.

Is this enough land for a day of Pheasant hunting?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on December 02, 2013, 01:01:10 PM
So I was in Western KS over the holiday and we visited some farmland that my dad will inherit. We were walking around and saw TWO separate groups of Pheasant in about 20 minutes.

I've never been Pheasant hunting before but some of my buds are pretty big into it, may pop my cherry next year.

Regarding KS Hunting licenses....Can you do this online or will I need to go to a 10 hour class?

Have you done any hunter's ed before?  You can do it online.

http://www.kdwpt.state.ks.us/news/Services/Education/Hunter/Internet-assisted-Course

No hunters ed so I will have to take that course emo, thanks!

Quick question for you emo...How much land would I need for Pheasant hunting? The land where we saw the pheasants is 480 acres or 3 quarter sections(as my dad calls them). 2/3 are farmed every year mainly dryland wheat, the other section stays fallow.

Is this enough land for a day of Pheasant hunting?

Eh, seems a little shy of what I'd like to hunt, especially if 2 of those quarters are kinda un-huntable.  But wherever it is you're probably close to some WIHA's where you can access private ground for free.  Also I bet once you talk to the neighbors and stuff you'll have more places.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on December 02, 2013, 01:11:34 PM
So I was in Western KS over the holiday and we visited some farmland that my dad will inherit. We were walking around and saw TWO separate groups of Pheasant in about 20 minutes.

I've never been Pheasant hunting before but some of my buds are pretty big into it, may pop my cherry next year.

Regarding KS Hunting licenses....Can you do this online or will I need to go to a 10 hour class?

Have you done any hunter's ed before?  You can do it online.

http://www.kdwpt.state.ks.us/news/Services/Education/Hunter/Internet-assisted-Course

No hunters ed so I will have to take that course emo, thanks!

Quick question for you emo...How much land would I need for Pheasant hunting? The land where we saw the pheasants is 480 acres or 3 quarter sections(as my dad calls them). 2/3 are farmed every year mainly dryland wheat, the other section stays fallow.

Is this enough land for a day of Pheasant hunting?

Eh, seems a little shy of what I'd like to hunt, especially if 2 of those quarters are kinda un-huntable.  But wherever it is you're probably close to some WIHA's where you can access private ground for free.  Also I bet once you talk to the neighbors and stuff you'll have more places.

This land is only about 2 miles from the rest of my grandparents land so I shouldn't have any problem finding more land.

How much area do you normally cover in say a 4hr period?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on December 02, 2013, 01:17:56 PM
Depends, but we can cover a quarter section of mixed pasture/ag/woodland in about an hour.  CRP would probably be a little less.  But again, depends.  You can spend more time obviously if you're into birds the whole time. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rams on December 03, 2013, 03:18:26 PM
went duck hunting for the first time on sunday.  we saw at shitload of geese and ducks (probably a thousand or so) but the pond we were hunting was iced over so not many of them landed.  we only came away with 2 ducks between 3 of us. 

also I'm a terrible rough ridin' shot right now.  :embarrassed:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: slobber on December 03, 2013, 04:06:08 PM
:thumbs: Looks pretty thick! Where abouts did that killing take place? I have buds here in NC that dream of hunting in KS. I want to show them those photos and tell them how close it was to where I grew up.
according to my estimates on google maps, it was about 200 feet outside lawrence city limits and about 2000 feet south of I-70.

if you really want to make them jealous, show them this picture.

(http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/pp138/bdr0380/IMG951133_zps973d24a7.png)

 I have no idea who that is other than a friend of a friend of mine.  I was told it was shot near the end of october somewhere outside of sterling, kansas.  apparently it green scored as a pending state record.  they have to let it dry before it's official.
Can you find out some more details on this? Based on end of October, it was bow season, correct? What did it score?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: _33 on December 03, 2013, 07:43:42 PM
One of you hunters please give me a giant ziploc bag full of deer jerky.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on December 09, 2013, 09:31:49 AM
One of you hunters please give me a giant ziploc bag full of deer jerky.

Guys I got my first ever deer this weekend!  A nice 6 pointer public land buck!  Lots of jerky and sausage coming!  :lick:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: slobber on December 09, 2013, 09:53:59 AM
:thumbs: Looks pretty thick! Where abouts did that killing take place? I have buds here in NC that dream of hunting in KS. I want to show them those photos and tell them how close it was to where I grew up.
according to my estimates on google maps, it was about 200 feet outside lawrence city limits and about 2000 feet south of I-70.

if you really want to make them jealous, show them this picture.

(http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/pp138/bdr0380/IMG951133_zps973d24a7.png)

 I have no idea who that is other than a friend of a friend of mine.  I was told it was shot near the end of october somewhere outside of sterling, kansas.  apparently it green scored as a pending state record.  they have to let it dry before it's official.
Can you find out some more details on this? Based on end of October, it was bow season, correct? What did it score?
RAMS!!!!!!!!!!! :impatient:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rams on December 09, 2013, 10:29:00 PM
RAMS!!!!!!!!!!! :impatient:
ok so apparently it's not even close to the state record.  it green scored at 238 1/8 and the kansas record for a non-typical is 280 4/8  (:horrorsurprise:) it's gonna crush the rice county record though.  also he shot it with a muzzle loader. :rolleyes:

anyway...here's an article:

http://www.outdoorlife.com/blogs/big-buck-zone/2013/11/big-buck-alert-kansas-nontypical-unofficial-scores-238-inches (http://www.outdoorlife.com/blogs/big-buck-zone/2013/11/big-buck-alert-kansas-nontypical-unofficial-scores-238-inches)
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Bloodfart on December 10, 2013, 08:19:13 PM
Probly a total DNR but here goes.

Had to kill a cow a couple weeks ago.  I found she was trying to give birth but not having any success.  So I approached her from behind and things did not look right back there.  I walked her up to the alleyway and took her to see the vet.  Don't know how he figured this out but he said the calf had punched a hole in the cow's uterus and one of her stomachs. (WTF?! OUCH!).

 The calf was dead and the cow couldn't be saved.  I called the meat locker but they were booked for several days and this cow was fading fast.  Called my dad and bros and told them whoever helped me process the cow would get a share of it for free.  I shot her, my oldest bro jumped in, stuck her in the neck, and we wait for kicking to cease.  Dad attached the hanging tree to the hind legs and lifted her up with the loader tractor.  I gave her a good scrub down with the hose and brush, nice and clean.  Now to cut out the butthole... Umm there's a calf hanging halfway out of it.  Dad talked me through it somehow and it turned out ok.  Finished skinning and gutting her then hung her from the hoist in the shop.  Wrapped the beast with plastic and let it hang there for three days.

  Most of my bros and sisters helped process the meat the day after Thanksgiving.  I'm glad it wasn't a total loss and we were able to salvage the meat.  Plus we got to spend some extra quality Bloodfart time together.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on December 10, 2013, 08:28:09 PM
Probly a total DNR but here goes.

Had to kill a cow a couple weeks ago.  I found she was trying to give birth but not having any success.  So I approached her from behind and things did not look right back there.  I walked her up to the alleyway and took her to see the vet.  Don't know how he figured this out but he said the calf had punched a hole in the cow's uterus and one of her stomachs. (WTF?! OUCH!).

 The calf was dead and the cow couldn't be saved.  I called the meat locker but they were booked for several days and this cow was fading fast.  Called my dad and bros and told them whoever helped me process the cow would get a share of it for free.  I shot her, my oldest bro jumped in, stuck her in the neck, and we wait for kicking to cease.  Dad attached the hanging tree to the hind legs and lifted her up with the loader tractor.  I gave her a good scrub down with the hose and brush, nice and clean.  Now to cut out the butthole... Umm there's a calf hanging halfway out of it.  Dad talked me through it somehow and it turned out ok.  Finished skinning and gutting her then hung her from the hoist in the shop.  Wrapped the beast with plastic and let it hang there for three days.

  Most of my bros and sisters helped process the meat the day after Thanksgiving.  I'm glad it wasn't a total loss and we were able to salvage the meat.  Plus we got to spend some extra quality Bloodfart time together.

I think that goes here http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=30271.0
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: puniraptor on December 10, 2013, 08:44:40 PM
Good god.

Have you considered telling this story in the form of a music video farming parody on YouTube?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on December 10, 2013, 11:12:43 PM
sounds pretty grim, bloodfart.  killing a large mammal right up next to you and not trying to fight or flee or anything can't be easy.  i tried to kill a carstruck pronghorn with a shovel once and couldn't do it. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: The Big Train on December 11, 2013, 02:05:34 AM
This story is probably about 15 years old or so, but sys reminded me of it.  So I was living in Wyoming at the time and my step-dad(he died 4 years ago RIP) taught me how to hunt.  Literally everything about it, guided me through hunters safety and all.  When I was 10 they lowered the legal age to hunt "big game" from 14 to 12.  So pretty much lucky me because I wanted to help the family survive and hunt big game.

Anyways it's the first day of hunting season for antelope, and I was super pumped.  I had been on hunts for about the 6 previous years and now was finally my time to get the big kill. We got up up around 4:30 and already had our gear laid out, we got dressed and headed out the door by 4:50, heading up the mountain in Tim's(my step-dad) limited edition John Elway Ford Bronco.

It was about a 40ish minute drive up to where we were hunting in the mountains(basically a huge valley with super high mountains on either side(that's where we hunted Elk)). The sun still hadn't risen but as soon as it did, THERE THEY WERE.  A buck and like 10 does, this dude was obviously a superbuck. I pumped one in the chamber(I have a .270 pump with a scope, not a puss .270 bolt action). They were about 300 yards away so we got out of the John Elway Bronco and snuck up on them. We got about 70-100 yards away and I found a nice rock to rest my scope on, I wasn't as huge as I am now so I needed to rest that heavy ass rifle on something. 

I looked into the scope and aimed straight for the heart, silence fell on the valley, I pulled the trigger and a boom rang out unto the heavens. That superbuck dropped like Michael J Fox on ice.  All the doe's scattered and we went and cleaned the superbuck, got him cleaned and loaded in the John Elway Bronco and were headed down the mountain and back home by 9:30AM on opening day, mom had biscuits and gravy waiting for us.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on December 11, 2013, 02:17:37 AM
Poor cow  :cry:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: slobber on December 11, 2013, 05:22:57 AM
RAMS!!!!!!!!!!! :impatient:
ok so apparently it's not even close to the state record.  it green scored at 238 1/8 and the kansas record for a non-typical is 280 4/8  (:horrorsurprise:) it's gonna crush the rice county record though.  also he shot it with a muzzle loader. :rolleyes:

anyway...here's an article:

http://www.outdoorlife.com/blogs/big-buck-zone/2013/11/big-buck-alert-kansas-nontypical-unofficial-scores-238-inches (http://www.outdoorlife.com/blogs/big-buck-zone/2013/11/big-buck-alert-kansas-nontypical-unofficial-scores-238-inches)
Thanks for the update. Still a great buck and Rice County record! :billdance: :cheers:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rams on December 11, 2013, 09:26:35 PM
i want to shoot a pig, but don't have a good place to go.
just booked my pig hunt in east texas for the end of the month.  $300 for a 3 day hunt for 2 pigs of any size on a fenced in 160 acre ranch.  I mean, that's basically cheaper than you can buy it at a rough ridin' butcher...and I get to kill it myself.  :excited:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on December 11, 2013, 09:30:17 PM
i know where two groups of pigs are feeding now, but they're both on private land and i can't get to them.  cheating bastards.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rams on December 11, 2013, 09:34:40 PM
i know where two groups of pigs are feeding now, but they're both on private land and i can't get to them.  cheating bastards.
do you live in the states?  I thought you lived overseas or in mexico or something.  anyway, have you talked to the land owner?  assuming they're wild pigs, the owner probably doesn't want them tearing the crap out of his/her land.  just ask for permission.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on December 11, 2013, 09:49:48 PM
these are big tracts of land.  the owners aren't accessible.


i've lived in the us for the last couple years.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on December 12, 2013, 07:49:26 AM
I've got a colleagues in Fresno that pig hunts and a friend in Vacaville that does as well.  There has got to be some public ground with pigs on them.  Might have to drive to get away from the people, though. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: CNS on December 12, 2013, 08:19:12 AM
If pigs are as prolific in CA as they are in the cental south, farmers will welcome anyone to shooting them.  Google image wild hog damage, or something, and see what they do to fields.  Farmers absolutely hate them. 

Sys, check out the county website.  Many counties, around here anyway, have digitized the land records into GIS maps that you can access on line.  Some give you a tract number that you can use to call the appropriate county office to get the owners name, and some give you the owners name.  Many borrow Google Earth as a background and show you basically everything about the property, info wise.  Anyway,  get the name of the owner, google the name and give them a call.  The commercial properties may say no for insurance reasons, but I bet you will be better received than you think.

Also, I love wild hog.  It is fantastic. Black russian boar is my fav meat.  It is delish.
Most of the hogs in the wild are not black russian, but some states have a few as well as a decent amt of hybrids from outfitters introducing themn illegally and them breeding w the locals.

Anyway, hog hunting is cheap and relatively easy to get into and I would reccomend it.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on December 12, 2013, 11:13:46 AM
i know the owner's names.  they don't allow (free) hunting.


i'm sure i could find public land with pigs if i worked at it, i'm not that motivated though.  it's a pain in the ass to hunt in california.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on December 12, 2013, 01:27:50 PM
i know the owner's names.  they don't allow (free) hunting.


i'm sure i could find public land with pigs if i worked at it, i'm not that motivated though.  it's a pain in the ass to hunt in california.

If it were easy, I contend it wouldn't be worth it.  (Unless you're just in it for the cheap meat.)  ((Which really isn't all that cheap anyway once you consider everything you spend to hunt.)) 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rams on December 12, 2013, 01:56:21 PM
i know the owner's names.  they don't allow (free) hunting.


i'm sure i could find public land with pigs if i worked at it, i'm not that motivated though.  it's a pain in the ass to hunt in california.
wut?  why?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on December 12, 2013, 02:01:12 PM
it's a pain in the ass to hunt in california.
wut?  why?

too many people, not enough land.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rams on December 12, 2013, 02:29:32 PM
it's a pain in the ass to hunt in california.
wut?  why?

too many people, not enough land.
you're just being lazy. FOLLOW YOUR DREAMS AND GO KILL A PIG!
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Skipper44 on December 12, 2013, 04:04:26 PM
how does Ca treat hunting hogs on public land around reservoirs?  I have been told folks just tool around Table Rock on 4 wheelers until they find the hogs - no permits needed.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on December 12, 2013, 04:11:18 PM
there is nothing in california that doesn't require a permit.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: CNS on December 12, 2013, 04:28:27 PM
Hunting everywhere requires certification and most things you hunt require hunting licenses. Hogs don't have a season or limit anywhere that I am awarebof, so yeah, just go shoot one, but you still need a hunters safety cert and a hunters license.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rams on December 12, 2013, 07:23:58 PM
Hunting everywhere requires certification and most things you hunt require hunting licenses. Hogs don't have a season or limit anywhere that I am awarebof, so yeah, just go shoot one, but you still need a hunters safety cert and a hunters license.
this is true.  all you need is a general state hunting license for texas and I'm pretty sure it's the same for california.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on December 12, 2013, 11:05:22 PM
there is nothing in california that doesn't require a permit.

Resident Hunting License...................................$45.93
Resident Wild Pig Tag..........................................21.86

there is nothing.

Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: puniraptor on December 12, 2013, 11:06:28 PM
hunting feral creatures/invasive species with sys is surely one of life's greatest joys
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: CNS on December 13, 2013, 08:34:43 AM
there is nothing in california that doesn't require a permit.

Resident Hunting License...................................$45.93
Resident Wild Pig Tag..........................................21.86

there is nothing.

That is crazy.  I bet the farmers are pissed about that.  Either that or CA doesn't have the population problems that tx and ok have.  Last time I was in ok hunting them, the guy we were hunting with said that some parts of the state were highering ppl to come in and kill as many as they could. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on December 13, 2013, 08:50:05 AM
Hey CNS...what's your general success rate for a long weekend pig hunt? 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: CNS on December 13, 2013, 10:01:11 AM
When we go, we use a guy that has leased something like 14000 acres in OK that only his groups get to hunt.  There is usually around 8 guys there at one time and half usually get one. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on December 13, 2013, 10:07:32 AM
About what I've heard from other buddies.  I need to do this sometime. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on December 13, 2013, 10:25:09 AM
Headed out to my buddy's land around 260th and pflumn to shoot some guns tomorrow :billdance:. No real hunting but we are going to shoot some clays and fire off some other guns because...well because AMERICA.

He's got a Brittany pup he's training to be a bird dog so he's buying prairie chickens to place out there. I'm bringing Lady but will just let her run around and have a great time  :D
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on December 13, 2013, 11:25:45 AM
I bet the farmers are pissed about that.

there aren't any pigs out in the middle of the valley where there is serious farming.  in the hills, where the pigs live, you have people with multimillion dollar lifestyle ranches that farm for the tax exemption, vineyards who wouldn't dream of letting a bunch of idiots with guns crawl over their land shooting their workers, a bunch of 5 acre ranchettes and large ranches that make at least as much from charging people to come in and shoot stuff as they do from farming.

there might be pigs that piss off farmers in the farmland along the coast and in the salinas valley, i dunno.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 19, 2014, 09:53:38 AM
Guys I just got my deer back from the processor.  I went all out and got two kinds of jerky, bunch of summer sausage, snack sticks, brats, and of course the steaks and burger.  Was like $400  :sdeek:.  Anyway holy crap this is my first deer and it's delicious.  I have brought some jerky and snack sticks and summer sausage to work and it seems to have improved my social standing in the company.   :gocho:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on February 19, 2014, 09:55:55 AM
used to work with a guy who ate deer meat pretty much every lunch.  stinks up the place when you microwave it.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on February 19, 2014, 09:56:42 AM
deer meat gives me the most god awful gas imaginable.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on February 19, 2014, 10:03:51 AM
Guys I just got my deer back from the processor.  I went all out and got two kinds of jerky, bunch of summer sausage, snack sticks, brats, and of course the steaks and burger.  Was like $400  :sdeek:.  Anyway holy crap this is my first deer and it's delicious.  I have brought some jerky and snack sticks and summer sausage to work and it seems to have improved my social standing in the company.   :gocho:

How many pounds of meat did you end up getting?

Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 19, 2014, 10:05:27 AM
Guys I just got my deer back from the processor.  I went all out and got two kinds of jerky, bunch of summer sausage, snack sticks, brats, and of course the steaks and burger.  Was like $400  :sdeek:.  Anyway holy crap this is my first deer and it's delicious.  I have brought some jerky and snack sticks and summer sausage to work and it seems to have improved my social standing in the company.   :gocho:

How many pounds of meat did you end up getting?

Not really sure, maybe about 60 pounds?  My reference is that the box was substantially heavier than a 37.5lb of dog food. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rams on February 19, 2014, 10:07:07 AM
Guys I just got my deer back from the processor.  I went all out and got two kinds of jerky, bunch of summer sausage, snack sticks, brats, and of course the steaks and burger.  Was like $400  :sdeek:.  Anyway holy crap this is my first deer and it's delicious.  I have brought some jerky and snack sticks and summer sausage to work and it seems to have improved my social standing in the company.   :gocho:
I shot a doe at the end of january and processed the whole thing myself.  hung it, skinned it, and butchered it in my garage.  I spent over $300 on my buck and the quality was just ok. I decided I was just going to buy everything to do it myself from now on.  I already had a smoker but I got a meat grinder, a sausage stuffer and a dehydrator.  it's really awesome being able to do everything yourself.  you can control the quality and do everything exactly how you want to. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 19, 2014, 10:09:37 AM
Guys I just got my deer back from the processor.  I went all out and got two kinds of jerky, bunch of summer sausage, snack sticks, brats, and of course the steaks and burger.  Was like $400  :sdeek:.  Anyway holy crap this is my first deer and it's delicious.  I have brought some jerky and snack sticks and summer sausage to work and it seems to have improved my social standing in the company.   :gocho:
I shot a doe at the end of january and processed the whole thing myself.  hung it, skinned it, and butchered it in my garage.  I spent over $300 on my buck and the quality was just ok. I decided I was just going to buy everything to do it myself from now on.  I already had a smoker but I got a meat grinder, a sausage stuffer and a dehydrator.  it's really awesome being able to do everything yourself.  you can control the quality and do everything exactly how you want to.

That sounds cool but I'm afraid I would eff it up, and that would send me into a deep depression.  I'm also kinda squirmy about stuff like that.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rams on February 19, 2014, 10:23:05 AM
Guys I just got my deer back from the processor.  I went all out and got two kinds of jerky, bunch of summer sausage, snack sticks, brats, and of course the steaks and burger.  Was like $400  :sdeek:.  Anyway holy crap this is my first deer and it's delicious.  I have brought some jerky and snack sticks and summer sausage to work and it seems to have improved my social standing in the company.   :gocho:
I shot a doe at the end of january and processed the whole thing myself.  hung it, skinned it, and butchered it in my garage.  I spent over $300 on my buck and the quality was just ok. I decided I was just going to buy everything to do it myself from now on.  I already had a smoker but I got a meat grinder, a sausage stuffer and a dehydrator.  it's really awesome being able to do everything yourself.  you can control the quality and do everything exactly how you want to.

That sounds cool but I'm afraid I would eff it up, and that would send me into a deep depression.  I'm also kinda squirmy about stuff like that.
you're not going to eff it up any worse than the butcher.  you'll take more time and care to do it right.  I watched a few youtube videos and found a great step-by-step site that I used and didn't have any problems.  it's really simple.

and squirmish?  do you not field dress them yourself?  skinning and butchering is nothing compared to field dressing.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 19, 2014, 10:33:13 AM
Guys I just got my deer back from the processor.  I went all out and got two kinds of jerky, bunch of summer sausage, snack sticks, brats, and of course the steaks and burger.  Was like $400  :sdeek:.  Anyway holy crap this is my first deer and it's delicious.  I have brought some jerky and snack sticks and summer sausage to work and it seems to have improved my social standing in the company.   :gocho:
I shot a doe at the end of january and processed the whole thing myself.  hung it, skinned it, and butchered it in my garage.  I spent over $300 on my buck and the quality was just ok. I decided I was just going to buy everything to do it myself from now on.  I already had a smoker but I got a meat grinder, a sausage stuffer and a dehydrator.  it's really awesome being able to do everything yourself.  you can control the quality and do everything exactly how you want to.

That sounds cool but I'm afraid I would eff it up, and that would send me into a deep depression.  I'm also kinda squirmy about stuff like that.
you're not going to eff it up any worse than the butcher.  you'll take more time and care to do it right.  I watched a few youtube videos and found a great step-by-step site that I used and didn't have any problems.  it's really simple.

and squirmish?  do you not field dress them yourself?  skinning and butchering is nothing compared to field dressing.

Ya I field dressed him.  It was like 2 deg F so for some reason it didn't gross me out at all.  Never got one bad whif.  Was warm putting my hands up inside him.  Although next time I'll wear a shittier sweater and get some of those cattle birthing shoulder length gloves.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: _33 on February 19, 2014, 10:48:45 AM
Guys I just got my deer back from the processor.  I went all out and got two kinds of jerky, bunch of summer sausage, snack sticks, brats, and of course the steaks and burger.  Was like $400  :sdeek:.  Anyway holy crap this is my first deer and it's delicious.  I have brought some jerky and snack sticks and summer sausage to work and it seems to have improved my social standing in the company.   :gocho:
I shot a doe at the end of january and processed the whole thing myself.  hung it, skinned it, and butchered it in my garage.  I spent over $300 on my buck and the quality was just ok. I decided I was just going to buy everything to do it myself from now on.  I already had a smoker but I got a meat grinder, a sausage stuffer and a dehydrator.  it's really awesome being able to do everything yourself.  you can control the quality and do everything exactly how you want to.

That sounds cool but I'm afraid I would eff it up, and that would send me into a deep depression.  I'm also kinda squirmy about stuff like that.
you're not going to eff it up any worse than the butcher.  you'll take more time and care to do it right.  I watched a few youtube videos and found a great step-by-step site that I used and didn't have any problems.  it's really simple.

Would puking and barfing on the deer multiple times while butchering it mess it up?  Or could you just rinse it off afterward?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SEK_EMAW on February 19, 2014, 10:52:57 AM
Get to be as good as this guy, while keeping all your fingers.


Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: The Big Train on February 19, 2014, 10:57:07 AM
I haven't gone hunting in forever but I used to alot, my favorite thing to get made was the jalapeno cheese summer sausage :lick:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on February 19, 2014, 10:59:16 AM
butchering yourself is the way to go.  it's pretty straightforward.  if you cut anything wrong, just grind it.  can't imagine spending hundreds of dollars on "free" meat.

i've never done sausage or any of that stuff.  just fresh meat.  cured meats would be interesting.  i doubt if i'd want to start with game meat though.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 19, 2014, 11:17:32 AM
This (the processing of the meat) is something I don't mind paying for, especially for my first deer.  Previous to this experience I wasn't even sure how much I would enjoy the meat.  I was mostly after the antlers and the outdoor experience so the meat is a bonus.  At this point I can say I would do it again, although the next animal could be a antelope or elk in another state, so that could change.  $400 is a drop in the bucket compared to everything else I spend on this stuff.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: The Big Train on February 19, 2014, 11:29:22 AM
This (the processing of the meat) is something I don't mind paying for, especially for my first deer.  Previous to this experience I wasn't even sure how much I would enjoy the meat.  I was mostly after the antlers and the outdoor experience so the meat is a bonus.  At this point I can say I would do it again, although the next animal could be a antelope or elk in another state, so that could change.  $400 is a drop in the bucket compared to everything else I spend on this stuff.

Antelope hunting is about as hard as making a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, it is fun tho.  Elk hunting is my favorite, lived around the mountains for a long time and very tiring going up and down the mountains but worth it.  Never been moose hunting but I'm sure it would be a blast.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 19, 2014, 11:34:51 AM
This (the processing of the meat) is something I don't mind paying for, especially for my first deer.  Previous to this experience I wasn't even sure how much I would enjoy the meat.  I was mostly after the antlers and the outdoor experience so the meat is a bonus.  At this point I can say I would do it again, although the next animal could be a antelope or elk in another state, so that could change.  $400 is a drop in the bucket compared to everything else I spend on this stuff.

Antelope hunting is about as hard as making a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, it is fun tho.  Elk hunting is my favorite, lived around the mountains for a long time and very tiring going up and down the mountains but worth it.  Never been moose hunting but I'm sure it would be a blast.

moose are forest cows.  just stroll up and judge them
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: The Big Train on February 19, 2014, 11:37:23 AM
This (the processing of the meat) is something I don't mind paying for, especially for my first deer.  Previous to this experience I wasn't even sure how much I would enjoy the meat.  I was mostly after the antlers and the outdoor experience so the meat is a bonus.  At this point I can say I would do it again, although the next animal could be a antelope or elk in another state, so that could change.  $400 is a drop in the bucket compared to everything else I spend on this stuff.

Antelope hunting is about as hard as making a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, it is fun tho.  Elk hunting is my favorite, lived around the mountains for a long time and very tiring going up and down the mountains but worth it.  Never been moose hunting but I'm sure it would be a blast.

moose are forest cows.  just stroll up and judge them

Moose can charge you tho, so like a bullfight cow?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 19, 2014, 12:15:57 PM
This (the processing of the meat) is something I don't mind paying for, especially for my first deer.  Previous to this experience I wasn't even sure how much I would enjoy the meat.  I was mostly after the antlers and the outdoor experience so the meat is a bonus.  At this point I can say I would do it again, although the next animal could be a antelope or elk in another state, so that could change.  $400 is a drop in the bucket compared to everything else I spend on this stuff.

Antelope hunting is about as hard as making a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, it is fun tho.  Elk hunting is my favorite, lived around the mountains for a long time and very tiring going up and down the mountains but worth it.  Never been moose hunting but I'm sure it would be a blast.

I want to backpack in way away from a road and camp and hunt and kill one and cut it into pieces and carry it out on my back. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on February 19, 2014, 12:18:39 PM
I want to backpack in way away from a road and camp and hunt and kill one and cut it into pieces and carry it out on my back.

i've done that (not antelope).  it's very overrated.  unless you are friends with a horse who is willing to carry your dead animals, it's a lot better to shoot one near a car.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: The Big Train on February 19, 2014, 12:20:11 PM
This (the processing of the meat) is something I don't mind paying for, especially for my first deer.  Previous to this experience I wasn't even sure how much I would enjoy the meat.  I was mostly after the antlers and the outdoor experience so the meat is a bonus.  At this point I can say I would do it again, although the next animal could be a antelope or elk in another state, so that could change.  $400 is a drop in the bucket compared to everything else I spend on this stuff.

Antelope hunting is about as hard as making a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, it is fun tho.  Elk hunting is my favorite, lived around the mountains for a long time and very tiring going up and down the mountains but worth it.  Never been moose hunting but I'm sure it would be a blast.

I want to backpack in way away from a road and camp and hunt and kill one and cut it into pieces and carry it out on my back.

I lived that fantasy by reading this book like 100 times when I was little

(http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/fd/28/a67b51c88da07c1674852210.L.jpg)
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 19, 2014, 12:22:11 PM
I want to backpack in way away from a road and camp and hunt and kill one and cut it into pieces and carry it out on my back.

i've done that (not antelope).  it's very overrated.  unless you are friends with a horse who is willing to carry your dead animals, it's a lot better to shoot one near a car.

Both deer I've dragged out were character building experiences.  Both were about ~1 mile drags.  I like the punishment sometimes.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on February 19, 2014, 12:56:05 PM

I lived that fantasy by reading this book like 100 times when I was little

(http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/fd/28/a67b51c88da07c1674852210.L.jpg)

ben ji's favorite book ever of all time for infinity growing up. The follow up(Brian's winter) was pretty good as well.


I've always wanted to go "Off the grid" and live in a cabin for like a year but then I think about how much certain things would suck and just go fishing instead.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: The Big Train on February 19, 2014, 01:01:18 PM

I lived that fantasy by reading this book like 100 times when I was little

(http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/fd/28/a67b51c88da07c1674852210.L.jpg)

ben ji's favorite book ever of all time for infinity growing up. The follow up(Brian's winter) was pretty good as well.


I've always wanted to go "Off the grid" and live in a cabin for like a year but then I think about how much certain things would suck and just go fishing instead.

This was also read like a 100 times by little TBT, "The River" on the other hand was the bastard child.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: _33 on February 19, 2014, 01:02:19 PM
I would love to be in a survival situation someday.  But only if I was sure I was going to be rescued really soon.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 19, 2014, 01:04:20 PM
I would love to be in a survival situation someday.  But only if I was sure I was going to be rescued really soon.
You should probably get into this show. http://www.discovery.com/tv-shows/naked-and-afraid I'm obsessed!
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on February 19, 2014, 01:04:30 PM

I lived that fantasy by reading this book like 100 times when I was little

(http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/fd/28/a67b51c88da07c1674852210.L.jpg)

ben ji's favorite book ever of all time for infinity growing up. The follow up(Brian's winter) was pretty good as well.


I've always wanted to go "Off the grid" and live in a cabin for like a year but then I think about how much certain things would suck and just go fishing instead.

This was also read like a 100 times by little TBT, "The River" on the other hand was the bastard child.

I knew there was a third one that sucked but I couldn't think of it.

May have to visit the old library and tear through hatchet/brian's winter this weekend  :drool:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Fedor on February 19, 2014, 01:06:37 PM

I lived that fantasy by reading this book like 100 times when I was little

(http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/fd/28/a67b51c88da07c1674852210.L.jpg)

ben ji's favorite book ever of all time for infinity growing up. The follow up(Brian's winter) was pretty good as well.


I've always wanted to go "Off the grid" and live in a cabin for like a year but then I think about how much certain things would suck and just go fishing instead.

This was also read like a 100 times by little TBT, "The River" on the other hand was the bastard child.

I knew there was a third one that sucked but I couldn't think of it.

May have to visit the old library and tear through hatchet/brian's winter this weekend  :drool:
True story alert:  I just read that with my kids and I got so excited I got them both hatchets for Christmas.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on February 19, 2014, 01:11:17 PM
 :D
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rams on February 19, 2014, 02:26:53 PM
This (the processing of the meat) is something I don't mind paying for, especially for my first deer.  Previous to this experience I wasn't even sure how much I would enjoy the meat.  I was mostly after the antlers and the outdoor experience so the meat is a bonus.  At this point I can say I would do it again, although the next animal could be a antelope or elk in another state, so that could change.  $400 is a drop in the bucket compared to everything else I spend on this stuff.

Antelope hunting is about as hard as making a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, it is fun tho.  Elk hunting is my favorite, lived around the mountains for a long time and very tiring going up and down the mountains but worth it.  Never been moose hunting but I'm sure it would be a blast.

I want to backpack in way away from a road and camp and hunt and kill one and cut it into pieces and carry it out on my back.
I plan on packing in to bowhunt for elk in colorado this year.  then I'm eyeing an archery moosehunt in thunder bay ontario next year.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rams on February 19, 2014, 02:29:32 PM
has anyone done a snow geese conservation spring hunt in kansas?  I really want to do that this year (mainly to fill my freezer with goose jerky) and I know you basically have to use a guide because you need a minimum 2,000 decoys or so and have to know where they're flying. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: steve dave on February 19, 2014, 02:30:23 PM
has anyone done a snow geese conservation spring hunt in kansas?  I really want to do that this year (mainly to fill my freezer with goose jerky) and I know you basically have to use a guide because you need a minimum 2,000 decoys or so and have to know where they're flying.

sounds worth it for some disgusting goose jerky
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rams on February 19, 2014, 02:34:48 PM
has anyone done a snow geese conservation spring hunt in kansas?  I really want to do that this year (mainly to fill my freezer with goose jerky) and I know you basically have to use a guide because you need a minimum 2,000 decoys or so and have to know where they're flying.

sounds worth it for some disgusting goose jerky
http://honest-food.net/2012/02/29/duck-or-goose-jerky/ (http://honest-food.net/2012/02/29/duck-or-goose-jerky/) :lick:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on February 19, 2014, 03:16:20 PM
why not just walk up and hit an urban canada goose in the head with a golf club and eat it (although geese taste bad)?  no decoys, no guides.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: steve dave on February 19, 2014, 03:20:15 PM
there are over a million (billion?) geese on the lake by my office at any one time. really fat ones with gullets full of popcorn and cafeteria breads fed to them by the proletariats in the office park.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on February 19, 2014, 03:35:36 PM
there are over a million (billion?) geese on the lake by my office at any one time. really fat ones with gullets full of popcorn and cafeteria breads fed to them by the proletariats in the office park.

the daughter of the mexican president got in a lot of trouble by using the term proletariat in a tweet.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on March 30, 2014, 07:19:48 PM
So shot some clays today for the first time.

I was hitting about 80-90% while my buds who owned the shotguns and clay flinging contraption were only hitting like 40%.

I'm pretty sure I'm a clay shooting savant for whatever that is worth.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on March 30, 2014, 07:24:04 PM
So shot some clays today for the first time.

I was hitting about 80-90% while my buds who owned the shotguns and clay flinging contraption were only hitting like 40%.

I'm pretty sure I'm a clay shooting savant for whatever that is worth.

i'm sure you're great at it (cause you're a total stud), but your friends really suck ass at clay thingies. 40%?  woof  :Ugh:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: kim carnes on March 30, 2014, 07:46:10 PM
So shot some clays today for the first time.

I was hitting about 80-90% while my buds who owned the shotguns and clay flinging contraption were only hitting like 40%.

I'm pretty sure I'm a clay shooting savant for whatever that is worth.

FYI.  you're not
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on March 30, 2014, 08:36:19 PM
So my friends are just really bad and it made me look good?

Bummer
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 31, 2014, 09:01:05 AM
Anything over 80% is pretty good, for trap, IMO.  I doubt you were really breaking that many, though.  Was this chowder Creek?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: steve dave on March 31, 2014, 09:01:46 AM
I doubt you were really breaking that many, though.

seems like a pretty garbagey thing to say
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 31, 2014, 09:06:33 AM
I doubt you were really breaking that many, though.

seems like a pretty garbagey thing to say

I just mean it's easy to think you're breaking 9 out of 10 when you're really breaking 6 or 7 out of 10 when you're a beginner.  That's why people keep score, and when they talk about it, they tell their score, not some percentage.  Like it would have been more believable if ben ji had said "we shot two rounds of trap and on the first I broke 20 and the second I broke 22." 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Tobias on March 31, 2014, 09:10:37 AM
i believe you, ben ji
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on March 31, 2014, 11:50:27 AM
Anything over 80% is pretty good, for trap, IMO.  I doubt you were really breaking that many, though.  Was this chowder Creek?

Not sure what you mean by "breaking that many" but if a piece came flying off of the clay after my gun went "boom" then I counted it.

Check out this great ACTION shot, you can see the clay IN MULTIPLE PEICES in the top right corner.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/01/vesubeje.jpg)


We were at my buddies land by 255th and pflum, didn't catch any fish tho :-(. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Gooch on March 31, 2014, 11:51:24 AM
Goofy southpaw
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on March 31, 2014, 11:52:01 AM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/01/7y2e4yre.jpg)

WOW, HE JUST NAILED THAT CLAY!
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Spracne on March 31, 2014, 11:52:15 AM
Anything over 80% is pretty good, for trap, IMO.  I doubt you were really breaking that many, though.  Was this chowder Creek?

Not sure what you mean by "breaking that many" but if a piece came flying off of the clay after my gun went "boom" then I counted it.

Check out this great ACTION shot, you can see the clay IN MULTIPLE PEICES in the top right corner.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/01/vesubeje.jpg)


We were at my buddies land by 255th and pflum, didn't catch any fish tho :-(.

Ben Ji is Todd Reesing??? :sdeek:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: schreds21 on March 31, 2014, 12:25:25 PM
Anything over 80% is pretty good, for trap, IMO.  I doubt you were really breaking that many, though.  Was this chowder Creek?


Not sure what you mean by "breaking that many" but if a piece came flying off of the clay after my gun went "boom" then I counted it.

Check out this great ACTION shot, you can see the clay IN MULTIPLE PEICES in the top right corner.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/01/vesubeje.jpg)


We were at my buddies land by 255th and pflum, didn't catch any fish tho :-(.
No way you were breaking 80-90% with that form.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on March 31, 2014, 12:27:29 PM
Anything over 80% is pretty good, for trap, IMO.  I doubt you were really breaking that many, though.  Was this chowder Creek?


Not sure what you mean by "breaking that many" but if a piece came flying off of the clay after my gun went "boom" then I counted it.

Check out this great ACTION shot, you can see the clay IN MULTIPLE PEICES in the top right corner.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/01/vesubeje.jpg)


We were at my buddies land by 255th and pflum, didn't catch any fish tho :-(.
No way you were breaking 80-90% with that form.

Are you implying that if I had the correct form I would be hitting 95-100%?!?!?

Is there a professional clay shooting league I could dominate?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: schreds21 on March 31, 2014, 12:31:36 PM
Anything over 80% is pretty good, for trap, IMO.  I doubt you were really breaking that many, though.  Was this chowder Creek?


Not sure what you mean by "breaking that many" but if a piece came flying off of the clay after my gun went "boom" then I counted it.

Check out this great ACTION shot, you can see the clay IN MULTIPLE PEICES in the top right corner.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/01/vesubeje.jpg)


We were at my buddies land by 255th and pflum, didn't catch any fish tho :-(.
No way you were breaking 80-90% with that form.

Are you implying that if I had the correct form I would be hitting 95-100%?!?!?

Is there a professional clay shooting league I could dominate?
10 minutes with me and you would never miss.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 31, 2014, 12:32:51 PM
Oh ok just backyard shooting.  Then 90% is plausible.    :thumbs:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Tobias on March 31, 2014, 12:35:10 PM
haters gonna hate, ben ji
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on March 31, 2014, 12:35:44 PM
Backyard'n it like a boss.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/01/tunata9u.jpg)
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on March 31, 2014, 12:37:45 PM


Thanks tobias, these puds are just super jelly.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: The Big Train on March 31, 2014, 12:39:20 PM
(http://www.excellenceabove.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Wendy-Being-Jelly-Not-Good.jpg)
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 31, 2014, 12:49:27 PM
I'm not hating, FWIW, just seeking to understand, and now I do.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Mr Bread on March 31, 2014, 01:37:25 PM
@ben ji  Your body called, it wants you to get an ass.  My word.  Shopped?  Seems impossible.  What do you wipe?  Your legs or your lower back?  lol
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on March 31, 2014, 01:47:44 PM
I'm super jelly of ben ji and his awesome clay shooting skills

Thanks bread!
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: puniraptor on March 31, 2014, 02:28:53 PM
I'm super jelly of ben ji and his awesome clay shooting skills

Thanks bread!

 :lol:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Bloodfart on March 31, 2014, 07:01:14 PM
I will assume you were using steel shot since you appear to be shooting over water. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on March 31, 2014, 11:45:05 PM
I will assume you were using steel shot since you appear to be shooting over water.

We were not....Had no idea what you meant so I did some googling and learned that waterfowl will eat the lead pellets as grit then get lead poisoning  :frown:

I doubt very many of the pellets landed in or near the water(the widest part is in the picture) so it should be fine right??

Should you always use steel shot when shooting around any water frequented by waterfowl? Is there a general rule?

We used biodegradable clays if that means anything!
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on March 31, 2014, 11:48:34 PM
I will assume you were using steel shot since you appear to be shooting over water.

We were not....Had no idea what you meant so I did some googling and learned that waterfowl will eat the lead pellets as grit then get lead poisoning  :frown:


and i was just getting ready to pm a mod about splitting the thread.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: nicname on March 31, 2014, 11:48:59 PM
Srs post. I've never owned a gun or killed an animal with one. I really want to start though. I'll probably start small, but I'd like to crescendo my way up to stalking predators in the mountains while keeping a sidearm on my hip.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: The Big Train on March 31, 2014, 11:51:12 PM
Srs post. I've never owned a gun or killed an animal with one. I really want to start though. I'll probably start small, but I'd like to crescendo my way up to stalking predators in the mountains while keeping a sidearm on my hip.

You are missing out! Also I really like your strategy going forward
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on March 31, 2014, 11:53:26 PM
I will assume you were using steel shot since you appear to be shooting over water.

We were not....Had no idea what you meant so I did some googling and learned that waterfowl will eat the lead pellets as grit then get lead poisoning  :frown:


and i was just getting ready to pm a mod about splitting the thread.

sys, you know alot about animals right? What about my other questions?!?

Will the ducks be fine because all the lead shot landed on the other side of the lake?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: nicname on March 31, 2014, 11:56:10 PM
Srs post. I've never owned a gun or killed an animal with one. I really want to start though. I'll probably start small, but I'd like to crescendo my way up to stalking predators in the mountains while keeping a sidearm on my hip.

You are missing out! Also I really like your strategy going forward

I may just skip deer and stuff. I have a soft spot for non-carnivorous mammals. Birds, not so much.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on March 31, 2014, 11:56:49 PM
I will assume you were using steel shot since you appear to be shooting over water.

We were not....Had no idea what you meant so I did some googling and learned that waterfowl will eat the lead pellets as grit then get lead poisoning  :frown:


and i was just getting ready to pm a mod about splitting the thread.

sys, you know alot about animals right? What about my other questions?!?

Will the ducks be fine because all the lead shot landed on the other side of the lake?

those ducks shouldn't have been walking in that neighborhood at night, certainly not dressed like that.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on April 01, 2014, 12:03:56 AM
sys, you know alot about animals right? What about my other questions?!?

Will the ducks be fine because all the lead shot landed on the other side of the lake?

i don't think the shot landed on the other side of the lake.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 01, 2014, 08:27:28 AM
sys, you know alot about animals right? What about my other questions?!?

Will the ducks be fine because all the lead shot landed on the other side of the lake?

i don't think the shot landed on the other side of the lake.

x2

It really doesn't go as far as you think, like it'll surprise you how far it doesn't go.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: puniraptor on April 01, 2014, 08:40:50 AM
probably sprinkling down at 100-200 yards, depending on shot size and elevation. so maybe over your lake. but ducks are probably still eating it off the ground?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Bloodfart on April 01, 2014, 09:06:24 AM
I will assume you were using steel shot since you appear to be shooting over water.

We were not....Had no idea what you meant so I did some googling and learned that waterfowl will eat the lead pellets as grit then get lead poisoning  :frown:

I doubt very many of the pellets landed in or near the water(the widest part is in the picture) so it should be fine right??

Should you always use steel shot when shooting around any water frequented by waterfowl? Is there a general rule?

We used biodegradable clays if that means anything!

You're probly ok if you guys don't shoot there regular.  Now you know and knowing is half the battle. Plus you fisher guys use lead weights and so there's something to think about.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on June 08, 2014, 01:41:17 PM
Met a guy at a wedding that is trying to get his business going. I figured this would be the thread for that. :D

http://www.deceptionoutdoors.com/ (http://www.deceptionoutdoors.com/)
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 09, 2014, 08:54:04 AM
Met a guy at a wedding that is trying to get his business going. I figured this would be the thread for that. :D

http://www.deceptionoutdoors.com/ (http://www.deceptionoutdoors.com/)

Those are some great looking decoys for sure.  The turkey needs to have more gloss to it though so it's shiny and reflects more light.  They could probably coat with a lacquer or something.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on June 09, 2014, 12:26:22 PM
I posted it with you in mind. @Emo EMAW.

The groom (not the guy who started the company) told me their goal is to sell to farmers etc. that lease out land and such.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on June 09, 2014, 01:33:50 PM
Ran over a baby bunny friday am on anderson :frown:

It was so awful
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: stunted on June 09, 2014, 03:31:08 PM
Went shrimping in Taiwan last week.  There's these big indoor places with swimming pool sized tanks of water filled with shrimp, and its basically like fishing.  When you catch one, you have to tear off its 2 claws,  and then rip out the hook.  When you're done, you skewer them while they're alive and squirming, and roast them. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 09, 2014, 03:37:43 PM
Went shrimping in Taiwan last week.  There's these big indoor places with swimming pool sized tanks of water filled with shrimp, and its basically like fishing.  When you catch one, you have to tear off its 2 claws,  and then rip out the hook.  When you're done, you skewer them while they're alive and squirming, and roast them.

 :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: steve dave on June 09, 2014, 03:38:39 PM
what do you use for bait?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on June 09, 2014, 03:42:35 PM
Krill
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: stunted on June 09, 2014, 03:47:13 PM
Littler shrimp.  Serves them right for being cannibals.

Here I am with my first catch:

(http://hoopeduponline.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/jeremy_lin_shrimp.jpg)
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Mr Bread on June 09, 2014, 03:57:00 PM
Seems legitimate. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on June 09, 2014, 05:37:50 PM
Nice sized shrimp
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 09, 2014, 06:18:46 PM
I swallowed two minnows this weekend at the lake. They came with my shots. The second one was a lot bigger. I didn't squirm or anything.  :gocho:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Tobias on June 09, 2014, 06:29:02 PM
Minos in ouzo, i presume?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on June 09, 2014, 06:32:50 PM
Nothing goes great with pride like a side of minnow. Buh dum pshhh :D
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 09, 2014, 06:37:52 PM
Minos in ouzo, i presume?
:)
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on July 08, 2014, 12:48:08 AM
Do bucks really snort? I ask for two reasons.

Knew someone that lived on Bucksnort road in Blaine.

Second, sometimes when I'm on my porch at night I hear sounds that I can only attribute to an animal snorting or something.

Snort and snorting are weird words.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: The Big Train on July 08, 2014, 12:53:24 AM
Do bucks really snort? I ask for two reasons.

Knew someone that lived on Bucksnort road in Blaine.

Second, sometimes when I'm on my porch at night I hear sounds that I can only attribute to an animal snorting or something.

Snort and snorting are weird words.

Deer? yes.  Young Buck the rapper, probably not. MAYBE THO!

Do you live out in the country, if so than probably.

Could be sneezing also, idk tho
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on July 08, 2014, 12:58:04 AM
On the west side of town, near scenic. There's a lot of open fields here.

Interestingly never heard them when I did live in the country.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on August 05, 2014, 10:02:49 PM
Sys, I parked my car today (ruralish area) and noticed something under my wheel and it was a small snake like 12" long and it was half under my tire  :frown:

I really despise snakes, but I don't want to be the one killing them  :frown:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: deputy dawg on August 06, 2014, 10:33:43 AM
Do bucks really snort? I ask for two reasons.

Knew someone that lived on Bucksnort road in Blaine.

Second, sometimes when I'm on my porch at night I hear sounds that I can only attribute to an animal snorting or something.

Snort and snorting are weird words.

Does are more likely to snort, but bucks do too.  They usually do it when they catch the scent of a human, and snort as a warning.  Hunters are painfully aware of this, it usually means you're busted and hunting won't be much good for an hour or so.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on August 06, 2014, 11:07:43 AM
Sys, I parked my car today (ruralish area) and noticed something under my wheel and it was a small snake like 12" long and it was half under my tire  :frown:

I really despise snakes, but I don't want to be the one killing them  :frown:

oh no!  what kind of snake did you murder?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on August 06, 2014, 12:46:59 PM
Sys, I parked my car today (ruralish area) and noticed something under my wheel and it was a small snake like 12" long and it was half under my tire  :frown:

I really despise snakes, but I don't want to be the one killing them  :frown:

oh no!  what kind of snake did you murder?

There are different kinds?  :runaway:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 07, 2014, 12:15:42 PM
 :sdeek: :sdeek:

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10516721_10101766253505781_2465423151247785434_n.jpg?oh=f8593226b6ca7596430f6564809ba36a&oe=543881B4&__gda__=1414189281_1a0188d37f185c37289c6fdb8d0cbdf2)
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on August 08, 2014, 01:07:07 PM
Do bucks really snort? I ask for two reasons.

Knew someone that lived on Bucksnort road in Blaine.

Second, sometimes when I'm on my porch at night I hear sounds that I can only attribute to an animal snorting or something.

Snort and snorting are weird words.

Does are more likely to snort, but bucks do too.  They usually do it when they catch the scent of a human, and snort as a warning.  Hunters are painfully aware of this, it usually means you're busted and hunting won't be much good for an hour or so.

Thank you.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 04, 2014, 03:52:32 PM
http://news.msn.com/us/search-on-for-deadly-cobra-loose-in-s-california

Go kill this thing, sys!  :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: CNS on September 04, 2014, 04:00:33 PM
Pet store guy in my home town had one of these last year.  He is a collector and brings his not-for-sale-check-out-what-I-have stuff into the store for ppl to look at.  Anyway, he said that there was only like three places in the country that had the appropriate anti venom and the nearest was in FL or something.  Basically, if you got bit in KS, you die since it took less time to die than it would to get the anti venom from FL. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 04, 2014, 04:20:26 PM
Pet store guy in my home town had one of these last year.  He is a collector and brings his not-for-sale-check-out-what-I-have stuff into the store for ppl to look at.  Anyway, he said that there was only like three places in the country that had the appropriate anti venom and the nearest was in FL or something.  Basically, if you got bit in KS, you die since it took less time to die than it would to get the anti venom from FL.
Woof! No thanks!
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: The1BigWillie on September 04, 2014, 04:27:54 PM
Do bucks really snort? I ask for two reasons.

Knew someone that lived on Bucksnort road in Blaine.

Second, sometimes when I'm on my porch at night I hear sounds that I can only attribute to an animal snorting or something.

Snort and snorting are weird words.

I'm not saying it was Bigfoot but it was probably Bigfoot. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Brock Landers on September 05, 2014, 12:46:53 PM
http://www.wibw.com/home/headlines/On-The-Hunt-For-A-Killer----Of-Peacocks-273752211.html (http://www.wibw.com/home/headlines/On-The-Hunt-For-A-Killer----Of-Peacocks-273752211.html)


What kind of a sick twisted monster would kill a majestic and beautiful creature such as a peacock?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Spracne on September 05, 2014, 12:51:18 PM
a peacuckold?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: kslim on September 05, 2014, 01:40:02 PM
a peacuckold?

 :lol: you are a really good poster
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 05, 2014, 01:41:56 PM
I would kill several creatures I perceive to be much more majestic than a loser peacock.


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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Brock Landers on September 05, 2014, 01:49:00 PM
I would kill several creatures I perceive to be much more majestic than a loser peacock.


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You take that back Emo.  Peacocks, in addition to being majestic are probably highly intelligent.  Guardians of royalty too or something like that.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 05, 2014, 04:27:41 PM

I would kill several creatures I perceive to be much more majestic than a loser peacock.


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You take that back Emo.  Peacocks, in addition to being majestic are probably highly intelligent.  Guardians of royalty too or something like that.

I actually have peacock parts in my house already.  Not sure of they died giving those parts though. 


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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on September 05, 2014, 06:56:38 PM
I would kill several creatures I perceive to be much more majestic than a loser peacock.


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Why
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on September 05, 2014, 07:46:53 PM
http://www.wibw.com/home/headlines/On-The-Hunt-For-A-Killer----Of-Peacocks-273752211.html (http://www.wibw.com/home/headlines/On-The-Hunt-For-A-Killer----Of-Peacocks-273752211.html)


What kind of a sick twisted monster would kill a majestic and beautiful creature such as a peacock?

Question for anyone who grew up in western ks.....Is it normal to have peacock's as pets on a farm?

I ask because my Grandparents had pet peacocks for a couple years on their farm....like 5 of them....until they were all eventually taken out by coyotes/critters.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on September 05, 2014, 07:48:44 PM
Lil 10 year old ben ji, spending a week out on his grandparents farm in the summer, just riding a 4 wheeler with a .22 on his back, being followed by 4 peacocks.......normal right?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on September 05, 2014, 08:03:31 PM
yeah, pretty normal.  lots of farm type people like animals.  maybe a small majority.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 06, 2014, 11:24:43 PM

I would kill several creatures I perceive to be much more majestic than a loser peacock.


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Why

Variety of reasons.


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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: HerrSonntag on September 07, 2014, 11:20:12 PM
Do bucks really snort? I ask for two reasons.

Knew someone that lived on Bucksnort road in Blaine.

Second, sometimes when I'm on my porch at night I hear sounds that I can only attribute to an animal snorting or something.

Snort and snorting are weird words.
Do you have family in little ole' Blaine, KS, SDK?  My mom's family all hails from there, small world!
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: slobber on September 08, 2014, 07:58:54 AM
The Blaine Hills at 100 are really awesome.


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on September 08, 2014, 10:45:44 AM
Do bucks really snort? I ask for two reasons.

Knew someone that lived on Bucksnort road in Blaine.

Second, sometimes when I'm on my porch at night I hear sounds that I can only attribute to an animal snorting or something.

Snort and snorting are weird words.
Do you have family in little ole' Blaine, KS, SDK?  My mom's family all hails from there, small world!

Not family, but graduated with a guy named Brian F that lived there and he had an older sister named Sheila I believe.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: stunted on February 28, 2015, 07:33:57 PM
Caught a rat in my place in a glue trap (only option). It also ate poison. It's now squirming around and making awful noises. I can't bring myself to kill it.

 :frown:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: stunted on February 28, 2015, 07:34:23 PM
Gonna become vegan
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on February 28, 2015, 07:37:54 PM
Caught a rat in my place in a glue trap (only option). It also ate poison. It's now squirming around and making awful noises. I can't bring myself to kill it.

 :frown:

you're a horrible person.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: cDubya on February 28, 2015, 09:44:25 PM
Don't imagine anyone will be killing this cute little guy, but he(she?) has been spotted multiple times here recently in southern WV...


(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag451/colemanwmullins/Mobile%20Uploads/FB_IMG_1424914141850_zpsqbqco4ip.jpg) (http://s1375.photobucket.com/user/colemanwmullins/media/Mobile%20Uploads/FB_IMG_1424914141850_zpsqbqco4ip.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: slobber on March 01, 2015, 11:29:31 AM
Oh wow.


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: cDubya on March 01, 2015, 05:31:46 PM
Oh wow.


Gonna win 'em all!

Lol, right?!
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: wetwillie on March 01, 2015, 05:38:13 PM
Don't imagine anyone will be killing this cute little guy, but he(she?) has been spotted multiple times here recently in southern WV...


(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag451/colemanwmullins/Mobile%20Uploads/FB_IMG_1424914141850_zpsqbqco4ip.jpg) (http://s1375.photobucket.com/user/colemanwmullins/media/Mobile%20Uploads/FB_IMG_1424914141850_zpsqbqco4ip.jpg.html)

That is a magnificent specimen. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 01, 2015, 06:11:48 PM
Steve French
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: stunted on March 01, 2015, 07:38:57 PM
Caught a rat in my place in a glue trap (only option). It also ate poison. It's now squirming around and making awful noises. I can't bring myself to kill it.

 :frown:

you're a horrible person.

drowned it. the first mammal i've killed in my life. i feel like a man
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: The Big Train on March 01, 2015, 07:42:37 PM
why would you drown it? that's like the worst way it could go. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: stunted on March 01, 2015, 07:52:44 PM
vs starving for 4 days?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: The Big Train on March 01, 2015, 07:54:59 PM
or just shooting it or severing the spinal cord, you know the quick non-suffering ways to go
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: wetwillie on March 01, 2015, 08:04:07 PM
Man...you are cold blooded drowning that thing.  Should have delivered a quick painless death.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: wetwillie on March 01, 2015, 08:06:49 PM
I mean if you had put it in a plastic bag and stomped the crap out of it at least it wouldn't have had to drown.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Tobias on March 01, 2015, 08:10:52 PM
probably just a case of waterboarding gone awry
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: stunted on March 01, 2015, 08:15:45 PM
well. i don't have a gun or knife, and stomping it is gross.

i was a bit anxious before, but i didn't feel anything during the kill.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Katpappy on March 01, 2015, 08:22:05 PM
or just shooting it or severing the spinal cord, you know the quick non-suffering ways to go
You know the funny thing about "glue traps" is ppl think they are humane.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: stunted on March 01, 2015, 08:25:33 PM
 you don't have to put it in quotes, a glue trap is a glue trap
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: stunted on March 01, 2015, 08:31:22 PM
also hypocritical to criticize it for being inhumane if you don't eat 100% organic meat.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: The Big Train on March 01, 2015, 08:39:02 PM
 :jerk:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Katpappy on March 01, 2015, 08:42:00 PM
also hypocritical to criticize it for being inhumane if you don't eat 100% organic meat.
Hey I'm not picking on you for your choice of trapping the rats roaming around.  Most ppl throw them in the trash and think this is such a sterile way to get rid of them.  The old fashioned wood spring trap is the most humane way, but ppl don't like to touch the dead rat or the blood clean up caused by the trap. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on March 01, 2015, 10:38:07 PM
100% catch and release guy myself.

#TheWesIsTheFuture

Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on March 01, 2015, 10:43:19 PM
Drowning is less personal than using a knife, lay off the guy
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: mocat on March 01, 2015, 10:47:49 PM
Don't imagine anyone will be killing this cute little guy, but he(she?) has been spotted multiple times here recently in southern WV...


(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag451/colemanwmullins/Mobile%20Uploads/FB_IMG_1424914141850_zpsqbqco4ip.jpg) (http://s1375.photobucket.com/user/colemanwmullins/media/Mobile%20Uploads/FB_IMG_1424914141850_zpsqbqco4ip.jpg.html)

This is my #1 favorite animal on planet earth
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: stunted on March 02, 2015, 04:27:33 AM
100% catch and release guy myself.

#TheWesIsTheFuture

Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: cDubya on March 02, 2015, 07:47:55 AM
Don't imagine anyone will be killing this cute little guy, but he(she?) has been spotted multiple times here recently in southern WV...


(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag451/colemanwmullins/Mobile%20Uploads/FB_IMG_1424914141850_zpsqbqco4ip.jpg) (http://s1375.photobucket.com/user/colemanwmullins/media/Mobile%20Uploads/FB_IMG_1424914141850_zpsqbqco4ip.jpg.html)

This is my #1 favorite animal on planet earth

I would expect nothing less. If I see him around (and he doesn't eat me) I'll be sure to inform him!
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on March 02, 2015, 04:51:16 PM
was it @CartierFor3 who had all the mice in his house he was killing?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Tobias on March 02, 2015, 04:56:08 PM
yeah, starts here http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=26453.msg1251510#msg1251510 (http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=26453.msg1251510#msg1251510)
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Bloodfart on August 26, 2015, 10:13:46 PM
Dove season is just around the corner fellas.  Anyone plan on wasting a few of those little guys? 

(http://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large-5/two-turtle-doves-cynthia-guinn.jpg)
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: The Big Train on August 26, 2015, 10:16:58 PM
A complete family, no thanks
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Bloodfart on August 27, 2015, 12:32:01 AM
It's fun as eff tho.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Institutional Control on August 27, 2015, 08:36:23 AM
It's fun as eff tho.

Not for the dove.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: RickRampus on August 27, 2015, 10:25:53 AM
just got a new shotgun.  cannot wait to lay a piss pile of these down
Title: Killing animals
Post by: 8manpick on August 27, 2015, 10:33:00 AM
SD Pheasant report is up 42% over last year!
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on August 27, 2015, 10:33:57 AM
Psychopaths smdh
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Tobias on August 27, 2015, 07:21:18 PM
I like to grab an extension cord and my spare microwave (keep it covered in the fall) and head to the backyard.  load that sucker up with bird seed and #blessed blue jays and possums and crap
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: pissclams on August 27, 2015, 07:47:56 PM
I like to grab an extension cord and my spare microwave (keep it covered in the fall) and head to the backyard.  load that sucker up with bird seed and #blessed blue jays and possums and crap

feels great when you're able to best these magnificent creatures on a level playing field such as you've described

while i don't microwave my prey, i have rigged a loud speaker in my backyard (i live in a rural community on several acres of land) to emit a super ultrasonic soundwave (that only animals can hear) when my motion detectors sense something on my land that is so loud it actually bursts the prey's ear drums and causes their ears to begin pouring out copious amounts of blood.  the blood travels to the electric grid i have inlaid into the ground and acts as a conduit to the animals brains by which the electric grid sends jolts of 1 million volts in 3, 30 second increments.  the first kills the animal, the 2nd cooks the animal, and the 3rd dries the cooked carcass into jerky that i eat when i go on my other hunting trips.  makes for a great snack.  call me old fashioned but i just love the sport of it all.  go cats.

Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: MakeItRain on September 13, 2015, 05:18:18 PM
 :sdeek:
http://www.vice.com/read/yucatan-animal-sacrifice-tradition-876
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Saulbadguy on September 13, 2015, 05:23:05 PM
I like to grab an extension cord and my spare microwave (keep it covered in the fall) and head to the backyard.  load that sucker up with bird seed and #blessed blue jays and possums and crap

feels great when you're able to best these magnificent creatures on a level playing field such as you've described

while i don't microwave my prey, i have rigged a loud speaker in my backyard (i live in a rural community on several acres of land) to emit a super ultrasonic soundwave (that only animals can hear) when my motion detectors sense something on my land that is so loud it actually bursts the prey's ear drums and causes their ears to begin pouring out copious amounts of blood.  the blood travels to the electric grid i have inlaid into the ground and acts as a conduit to the animals brains by which the electric grid sends jolts of 1 million volts in 3, 30 second increments.  the first kills the animal, the 2nd cooks the animal, and the 3rd dries the cooked carcass into jerky that i eat when i go on my other hunting trips.  makes for a great snack.  call me old fashioned but i just love the sport of it all.  go cats.



:lol:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: TownieCat on September 14, 2015, 02:59:33 PM
I killed a baby snake this morning. It was on the steps outside of my apartment so I bashed it with a wooden spoon. I regret nothing.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: puniraptor on September 14, 2015, 03:11:39 PM
I killed a baby snake this morning. It was on the steps outside of my apartment so I bashed it with a wooden spoon. I regret nothing.

 :sdeek:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: mocat on September 14, 2015, 03:20:02 PM
apologize to sys you monster
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on September 14, 2015, 03:20:54 PM
You are a terrible person, enjoy all your vermin
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: puniraptor on September 14, 2015, 03:24:31 PM
that snake was destined to eat the spider that kills you tonight. you just stepped on the wrong butterfly wing.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: TownieCat on September 14, 2015, 03:26:10 PM
If ever put in that situation again I will act the same way. It was a swift execution.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: MakeItRain on September 14, 2015, 03:38:54 PM
I hate snakes as much as the next guy but the fact that you could kill it with a wooden spoon it evidence that you should have left it alone. I don't even think you can kill flies with a wooden spoon.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: The Big Train on September 14, 2015, 04:23:10 PM
yeah let's kill gods creation with a blunt object, no not the sharp one that will kill swiftly, that one that will inflict the most pain possible
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: slobber on September 14, 2015, 05:35:24 PM
Snakes don't feel pain.


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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: TownieCat on September 14, 2015, 05:45:02 PM
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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: wetwillie on September 14, 2015, 06:05:04 PM
Not surprised
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Tobias on September 14, 2015, 06:06:11 PM
we live in a culture of disrespect
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on September 14, 2015, 08:46:29 PM
What was the point of posting that?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: The Big Train on September 14, 2015, 09:04:32 PM
to prove to himself that there was some sort of justification, when in reality there was absolutely none, but TownieCat has no regrets.  so YOLO i guess
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: wetwillie on September 14, 2015, 09:06:18 PM
Sys may not see his post tonight, or even this month, but when he does, look out. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: TownieCat on September 14, 2015, 09:39:34 PM
Says may not see his post tonight, or even this month, but when he does, look out.
He have a pet snake or something?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: XocolateThundarr on September 14, 2015, 09:53:36 PM
I'm going to shoot the crap out of some quail this fall.  They will die an honorable death followed by being placed in a bacon casket and treated to a Viking funeral on my grill.  May Odin be with them.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: stunted on September 25, 2015, 05:46:13 PM
https://youtu.be/8ocX3-XIDNY
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on September 25, 2015, 08:04:13 PM
What a dunce
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on September 25, 2015, 08:21:17 PM
the tortoise was fine.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 05, 2015, 04:25:45 PM
This (the processing of the meat) is something I don't mind paying for, especially for my first deer.  Previous to this experience I wasn't even sure how much I would enjoy the meat.  I was mostly after the antlers and the outdoor experience so the meat is a bonus.  At this point I can say I would do it again, although the next animal could be a antelope or elk in another state, so that could change.  $400 is a drop in the bucket compared to everything else I spend on this stuff.

Antelope hunting is about as hard as making a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, it is fun tho.  Elk hunting is my favorite, lived around the mountains for a long time and very tiring going up and down the mountains but worth it.  Never been moose hunting but I'm sure it would be a blast.

I want to backpack in way away from a road and camp and hunt and kill one and cut it into pieces and carry it out on my back.
I plan on packing in to bowhunt for elk in colorado this year.  then I'm eyeing an archery moosehunt in thunder bay ontario next year.

Hey Rams tell us about your elk hunt in Colorado.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: puniraptor on October 05, 2015, 04:32:58 PM
 :lol:

its going to be amazing to watch emo catch up on 2 years of posts
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: wetwillie on October 05, 2015, 07:10:01 PM
:lol:

its going to be amazing to watch emo catch up on 2 years of posts

He hasnt even been gone a year
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 06, 2015, 08:03:28 AM
Guys I just click the "mark read" button.  I knew I didn't haz what it tooks.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 23, 2016, 01:53:33 PM
OMG TEASER!!

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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 09, 2016, 09:34:44 AM
Guys, I won the lottery.  I drew an elk tag, in KANSAS!!!  Wahoo!!!  I've never won anything in my life like this, crazy. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on August 09, 2016, 09:59:28 AM
I know a guy with an elk farm, maybe he'd let you kill one of them.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: CNS on August 09, 2016, 10:37:59 AM
Guys, I won the lottery.  I drew an elk tag, in KANSAS!!!  Wahoo!!!  I've never won anything in my life like this, crazy.

Ft riley?  Ft lv?

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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 09, 2016, 11:09:21 AM
Guys, I won the lottery.  I drew an elk tag, in KANSAS!!!  Wahoo!!!  I've never won anything in my life like this, crazy.

Ft riley?  Ft lv?

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Riley
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: RickRampus on August 09, 2016, 12:11:58 PM
my dad has tried for that tag ever since I can remember.  That's a once in a lifetime tag you drew. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: The Big Train on August 09, 2016, 12:30:23 PM
I shot my first elk when I was 14 and still living in WY.  Total I've gotten 5 of them.  It's a hell of a rush when you get one.

Have fun Emo!
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: mocat on August 09, 2016, 12:41:56 PM
you guys i just drew an elk tag too, i am not even joking
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: mocat on August 09, 2016, 12:42:44 PM
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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: meow meow on August 09, 2016, 12:48:05 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: meow meow on August 09, 2016, 12:48:28 PM
this thread makes me want to kill an animal
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: steve dave on August 09, 2016, 12:51:32 PM
when you kill that stupid herbivore I suggest you cut off its tail and stand there with its tail in one hand, your knife in the other, and like a bandoleer of bullets, and get a picture of yourself and your hockey hair.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: pissclams on August 09, 2016, 01:03:44 PM
Guys, I won the lottery.  I drew an elk tag, in KANSAS!!!  Wahoo!!!  I've never won anything in my life like this, crazy. 

why do they have a tag lottery?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 09, 2016, 01:08:48 PM
Guys, I won the lottery.  I drew an elk tag, in KANSAS!!!  Wahoo!!!  I've never won anything in my life like this, crazy. 

why do they have a tag lottery?

Because the demand far exceeds the amount of sustainable supply.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 09, 2016, 01:09:57 PM
Do you have to buy a lottery ticket every year, or is it something you only have to pay for when you get selected?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Tobias on August 09, 2016, 01:10:55 PM
do you think you could kill an elk with only an ATV?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 09, 2016, 01:15:32 PM
Do you have to buy a lottery ticket every year, or is it something you only have to pay for when you get selected?


I think it's a few bucks to apply ever year, maybe $20 tops.  Then if you get drawn you get a letter that says you need to pay for your tag (mine is only $150). 

Some states make you pay up front and then refund if you don't draw.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: pissclams on August 09, 2016, 01:37:55 PM
do you think you could kill an elk with only an ATV?

i guarantee i could.  two 5 foot long spears with tips covered in poison mounted to the front of the atv.  drive around the forest searching for elk, find elk, gas it and ram elk with poison spears.  drive elk corpse to pick up truck and demount elk corpse from spears into bed of truck.  #profit.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: wetwillie on August 09, 2016, 01:46:24 PM
do you think you could kill an elk with only an ATV?

i guarantee i could.  two 5 foot long spears with tips covered in poison mounted to the front of the atv.  drive around the forest searching for elk, find elk, gas it and ram elk with poison spears.  drive elk corpse to pick up truck and demount elk corpse from spears into bed of truck.  #profit.

Might as well mount machine gun turrets to it with a push button.  Spears on an ATV, this guy...smdh.  I mean gmafb clams.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Katpappy on August 09, 2016, 01:49:19 PM
do you think you could kill an elk with only an ATV?

i guarantee i could.  two 5 foot long spears with tips covered in poison mounted to the front of the atv.  drive around the forest searching for elk, find elk, gas it and ram elk with poison spears.  drive elk corpse to pick up truck and demount elk corpse from spears into bed of truck.  #profit.
but could you do it if you were "naked and afraid"?!
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: pissclams on August 09, 2016, 02:00:02 PM
i think i saw them doing it on an episode of naked and afraid, that's where i got the idea.  the poison was from tree frogs + mushrooms + snake.  there's plenty of natural poison out there if you know what to look for.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: steve dave on August 09, 2016, 02:41:11 PM
I could easily murder a stupid elk with an ATV. but I'd do it in a way you idiots wouldn't even think of. first I'd cover the ATV with the elk's most sought out and delicious foods. berries, crickets, bird eggs, some sticks or some crap, the works. an elk would go mad with hunger once it got a whiff. when the elk approaches and starts going to town on the buffet I light a fuse I've laid out into the brush where i'm hiding. the other end of the fuse goes to the gas tank of the ATV. boom. elk roast added to the smorgasbord.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 09, 2016, 02:45:08 PM
As long as you used organic unleaded I think that's a very ethical way to do it.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 09, 2016, 02:49:29 PM
do you think you could kill an elk with only an ATV?

i guarantee i could.  two 5 foot long spears with tips covered in poison mounted to the front of the atv.  drive around the forest searching for elk, find elk, gas it and ram elk with poison spears.  drive elk corpse to pick up truck and demount elk corpse from spears into bed of truck.  #profit.

Doesn't the poison ruin the meat, though?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 09, 2016, 02:53:11 PM
If I were hunting elk, I think I'd use a drone to find one and then herd it straight to me. Then I'd shoot it straight through the heart when it got close enough to the truck for me to load it up with minmal effort. Then I'd crack open an ice cold beer to celebrate the thrilling hunt.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 09, 2016, 02:57:03 PM
I'm really good at drowning animals. My only kill was a turkey by the creek. Shot that bastards wing and he flapped around until he drowned. It tasted pretty moist tho.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: The Big Train on August 09, 2016, 03:08:29 PM
Seems like a lot of LHATAKIRLEIQ(low hunting and tracking and killing in real life elk) ITT rn
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 09, 2016, 03:08:58 PM
Lots of states have outlawed drones you frigging poachers!
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: The Big Train on August 09, 2016, 03:12:12 PM
What's going to be your gun of choice for this elk, Emo?  AR-15?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 09, 2016, 03:20:54 PM
Hopefully I get it with a bow.  If it comes down to crunch time I'll take a 270.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 09, 2016, 03:22:37 PM
Lots of states have outlawed drones you frigging poachers!

What a stupid law. Why not outlaw bullets, too? Where does it end?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: The Big Train on August 09, 2016, 03:28:58 PM
Hopefully I get it with a bow.  If it comes down to crunch time I'll take a 270.

Wait, so it's a combo license?  I thought it could only be one or the other
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Asteriskhead on August 09, 2016, 03:29:31 PM
i bet you i could kill an elk with mind bullets.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: pissclams on August 09, 2016, 03:30:56 PM
do you think you could kill an elk with only an ATV?

i guarantee i could.  two 5 foot long spears with tips covered in poison mounted to the front of the atv.  drive around the forest searching for elk, find elk, gas it and ram elk with poison spears.  drive elk corpse to pick up truck and demount elk corpse from spears into bed of truck.  #profit.

Doesn't the poison ruin the meat, though?

ya the last thing i would want to ruin is elk meat   :jerk:   :lol:   :jerk:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 09, 2016, 05:24:04 PM
Hopefully I get it with a bow.  If it comes down to crunch time I'll take a 270.

Wait, so it's a combo license?  I thought it could only be one or the other

I drew a general license so I can hunt with bow or muzzy during those seasons and then rifle during October.  I'm still unsure if I can hunt with bow during rifle season.  Really want to get with bow.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: wetwillie on August 09, 2016, 05:27:22 PM
is it really going to be satisfying to kill an elk at 2000 ft of elevation?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: mhkpasa on August 09, 2016, 05:50:47 PM


The Fort Riley terrain will provide plenty of challenges  :lol:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on August 09, 2016, 05:52:26 PM
Lol, people don't hunt for the challenge, they hunt because they are sadistic and it's illegal to kill humans
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: pissclams on August 09, 2016, 05:52:37 PM
is it really going to be satisfying to kill an elk at 2000 ft of elevation?

what wouldn't be satisfying about killing an animal whose population is so low that winning the chance to kill one with all of the benefits that modern technology affords us is a once in a lifetime deal?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: kim carnes on August 09, 2016, 06:23:58 PM
Killing animals is a disgusting hobby
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: schreds21 on August 09, 2016, 10:37:13 PM
Guys, I won the lottery.  I drew an elk tag, in KANSAS!!!  Wahoo!!!  I've never won anything in my life like this, crazy.
Congrats EMO!  That is a coveted tag!
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 09, 2016, 11:53:43 PM
I can't even be bothered that (most of) you guys are being dicks.  :excited: :excited: :excited:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: kim carnes on August 10, 2016, 12:04:16 AM
Just bc people don't support your enjoyment of killing animals doesn't make them dicks
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Tobias on August 10, 2016, 12:05:35 AM
Lots of states have outlawed drones you frigging poachers!

What a stupid law. Why not outlaw bullets, too? Where does it end?

yes, v arbitrary line iyam
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 10, 2016, 08:02:52 AM
Are you allowed to sell this tag? If so, it seems like there would be a lot of money to be made here.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 10, 2016, 08:12:17 AM
Lots of states have outlawed drones you frigging poachers!

What a stupid law. Why not outlaw bullets, too? Where does it end?

yes, v arbitrary line iyam

I guess you just can't be smart and hunt at the same time.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: puniraptor on August 10, 2016, 08:13:34 AM
You can hunt with a bow during rifle season, you just risk getting blasted by a bubba who heard something thattaway
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 10, 2016, 08:18:37 AM
Lol, people don't hunt for the challenge, they hunt because they are sadistic and it's illegal to kill humans
Hot take
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 10, 2016, 08:20:31 AM
A lot of dumbasses in here, that are hating on hunting, that probably fish too.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: mocat on August 10, 2016, 08:25:27 AM
i would like to go comma hunting, armed only with my trusty backspace key
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 10, 2016, 08:30:34 AM
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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 10, 2016, 08:32:57 AM
Are you allowed to sell this tag? If so, it seems like there would be a lot of money to be made here.

I can't (and wouldn't).  As RickRampus said, it's a once in a lifetime type of tag.  As you might imagine, if tags were transferable, there'd be businesses applying hoping to draw the tag which they would then sell to the highest bidder.  That's not a very good model for several reasons.

There are some states that have a "governor's tag" or something like that, that goes to the highest bidder.  I think the Arizona elk gov tag goes for a half million dollars every year, which all goes towards conservation, so it benefits the animals and the average Joe hunters. 

Kansas has no interest in developing a growing herd of elk, even though the habitat and economics would probably support it, because farmers are concerned about crop damage.  In SW KS a landowner can buy unlimited elk tags to keep elk off their crops.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on August 10, 2016, 08:34:55 AM
Why is murdering elk so much more boner causing than murdering other animals?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 10, 2016, 08:39:44 AM
Are you allowed to sell this tag? If so, it seems like there would be a lot of money to be made here.

I can't (and wouldn't).  As RickRampus said, it's a once in a lifetime type of tag.  As you might imagine, if tags were transferable, there'd be businesses applying hoping to draw the tag which they would then sell to the highest bidder.  That's not a very good model for several reasons.

There are some states that have a "governor's tag" or something like that, that goes to the highest bidder.  I think the Arizona elk gov tag goes for a half million dollars every year, which all goes towards conservation, so it benefits the animals and the average Joe hunters. 

Kansas has no interest in developing a growing herd of elk, even though the habitat and economics would probably support it, because farmers are concerned about crop damage.  In SW KS a landowner can buy unlimited elk tags to keep elk off their crops.

Can the SW Kansan then drive to Ft. Riley and kill his elk there?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 10, 2016, 08:46:38 AM
Why is murdering elk so much more boner causing than murdering other animals?
Says the guy who loves the eff outta burgers.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 10, 2016, 08:48:43 AM
They're just messing around wacky, chill out man. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 10, 2016, 08:49:22 AM
I'm pretty chill. Just hate double standards.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 10, 2016, 08:49:44 AM
Are you allowed to sell this tag? If so, it seems like there would be a lot of money to be made here.

I can't (and wouldn't).  As RickRampus said, it's a once in a lifetime type of tag.  As you might imagine, if tags were transferable, there'd be businesses applying hoping to draw the tag which they would then sell to the highest bidder.  That's not a very good model for several reasons.

There are some states that have a "governor's tag" or something like that, that goes to the highest bidder.  I think the Arizona elk gov tag goes for a half million dollars every year, which all goes towards conservation, so it benefits the animals and the average Joe hunters. 

Kansas has no interest in developing a growing herd of elk, even though the habitat and economics would probably support it, because farmers are concerned about crop damage.  In SW KS a landowner can buy unlimited elk tags to keep elk off their crops.

Can the SW Kansan then drive to Ft. Riley and kill his elk there?

Of course not.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 10, 2016, 08:51:13 AM
I'm pretty chill. Just hate double standards.

Pro-tip:  on goEMAW.com, people may post things they don't really believe.  I have even done it myself.   
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 10, 2016, 08:52:34 AM
I'm pretty chill. Just hate double standards.

Pro-tip:  on goEMAW.com, people may post things they don't really believe.  I have even done it myself.
I'm pretty sure lib^7 posts everything he believes. You pit, come on. Everything is a liberal agenda with this guy. smdh.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: meow meow on August 10, 2016, 08:56:22 AM
 :bwpopcorn:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: mocat on August 10, 2016, 08:57:41 AM
why is elk hunting the best hunting?

eff YOU, YOU EAT BURGERS!!
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 10, 2016, 08:58:42 AM
I'm pretty chill. Just hate double standards.

Pro-tip:  on goEMAW.com, people may post things they don't really believe.  I have even done it myself.
I'm pretty sure lib^7 posts everything he believes. You pit, come on. Everything is a liberal agenda with this guy. smdh.

lib^7 is the exception not the rule.  A real bad egg if you ask me.  Not even an organic free range type egg either.  Like the stuffed in a cage and force fed steroid infused grain until you die kind of egg.  Did you know he once threatened to murder me?  Real talk.  That's why I don't go to the fatty fest things.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Asteriskhead on August 10, 2016, 09:01:44 AM
i feel like i'm in inception rn.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: puniraptor on August 10, 2016, 09:02:33 AM
in his defense, lib7 just barely likes hamburgers
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: meow meow on August 10, 2016, 09:02:46 AM
why is elk hunting the best hunting?

eff YOU, YOU EAT BURGERS!!

 :lol:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 10, 2016, 09:03:32 AM
I'm pretty chill. Just hate double standards.

Pro-tip:  on goEMAW.com, people may post things they don't really believe.  I have even done it myself.
I'm pretty sure lib^7 posts everything he believes. You pit, come on. Everything is a liberal agenda with this guy. smdh.
lib^7 is the exception not the rule.  A real bad egg if you ask me.  Not even an organic free range type egg either.  Like the stuffed in a cage and force fed steroid infused grain until you die kind of egg.  Did you know he once threatened to murder me?  Real talk.  That's why I don't go to the fatty fest things.
So sad
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on August 10, 2016, 09:04:31 AM
in his defense, lib7 just barely likes hamburgers

That's just slander
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 10, 2016, 09:04:37 AM
why is elk hunting the best hunting?

eff YOU, YOU EAT BURGERS!!
Mocat always rushing to defend his boy lib. So sad. smdh. That's not what he said either. smdhextrasmdh
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on August 10, 2016, 09:07:38 AM
why is elk hunting the best hunting?

eff YOU, YOU EAT BURGERS!!

I'm actually interested in the answer. Guy I used to work with would go bonkers about elk hunting in CO
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: puniraptor on August 10, 2016, 09:08:47 AM
Does an Elk have a backstrap like a deer? If so, this mammal on mammal homicide is justified beyond a reasonable doubt. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: mocat on August 10, 2016, 09:09:22 AM
i just emailed my hillbilly gun loving hunter guy cousin "why does elk hunting give you the biggest boner compared to regular other critter hunting?"

Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: mocat on August 10, 2016, 09:11:48 AM
HE EMAILED ME BACK ALREADY!
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: mocat on August 10, 2016, 09:12:41 AM
this is the entire email:

Quote
(http://restaurantnewsrelease.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Whataburger-Monterey-Melt-Burger.jpg)


what does it mean?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 10, 2016, 09:13:13 AM
I take it that many of these dumbass carnivores ITT haven't tasted elk.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 10, 2016, 09:13:47 AM
I wouldn't say elk hunting is the best hunting.  I haven't hunted a ton of things.  I do think hunting anything in remote wild places is more fun than hunting farms/agricultural land.  I'm more in it for the experience though.  Some people would disagree with me under the assumption that success rates would be higher in agrarian areas.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 10, 2016, 09:14:47 AM
I will say I didn't have any interest in hunting elk until I ate some a few years ago. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: mocat on August 10, 2016, 09:15:04 AM
i defer to hemingway on biggest boner-inducing critter hunting (lion)
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on August 10, 2016, 09:16:21 AM
Obviously you have mega rod makers in Africa or south America, but is the elk the most boner inducing in the US? (maybe qualify cont. US?)
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: wetwillie on August 10, 2016, 09:18:14 AM
What does elk taste like?  It can't be that much better than deer.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: mocat on August 10, 2016, 09:18:31 AM
i have gone mouse hunting before. it's great because you can do it in your house while asleep (you just use traps, obvi)
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: CNS on August 10, 2016, 09:18:43 AM
Emo, what is the success rate at Riley?  Iirc, they only give out like 50 or 100 tags a year.   Do you know how many elk are murked annually?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Asteriskhead on August 10, 2016, 09:18:56 AM
i think you can get bear tags in parts of the cont. us of a.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 10, 2016, 09:21:36 AM
There's a difference between murdering big game for sport vs. murdering (deer, elk, birds, etc.) for sport/food. Preserving your kill.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 10, 2016, 09:22:06 AM
Emo, what is the success rate at Riley?  Iirc, they only give out like 50 or 100 tags a year.   Do you know how many elk are murked annually?

I asked the KDWP about success rates and she referred me to Riley biologist who hasn't returned my call.  They only gave out 25 total tags this year.  I think there are only ~175 animals on the fort.  I would think 25 tags wouldn't be enough to keep 175 animals in check, but maybe enough wander off the fort and get shot by the landowner/farmers.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Tobias on August 10, 2016, 09:22:24 AM
What does elk taste like?  It can't be that much better than deer.

it's not.  the boner pheromones make it worse than deer.  quite a pickle
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 10, 2016, 09:23:37 AM
There's a difference between murdering big game for sport vs. murdering (deer, elk, birds, etc.) for sport/food. Preserving your kill.

Who was this comment directed towards?  People eat bears and lions, too. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: CNS on August 10, 2016, 09:24:22 AM
Emo, what is the success rate at Riley?  Iirc, they only give out like 50 or 100 tags a year.   Do you know how many elk are murked annually?

I asked the KDWP about success rates and she referred me to Riley biologist who hasn't returned my call.  They only gave out 25 total tags this year.  I think there are only ~175 animals on the fort.  I would think 25 tags wouldn't be enough to keep 175 animals in check, but maybe enough wander off the fort and get shot by the landowner/farmers.

Bull, cow, combo tag? 

Also, I bet the fort has pretty strict rules about how, where, and when you can be places and stuff. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 10, 2016, 09:24:40 AM
There's a difference between murdering big game for sport vs. murdering (deer, elk, birds, etc.) for sport/food. Preserving your kill.

Who was this comment directed towards?  People eat bears and lions, too.
Who are these ppl?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: CNS on August 10, 2016, 09:26:03 AM
There's a difference between murdering big game for sport vs. murdering (deer, elk, birds, etc.) for sport/food. Preserving your kill.

Who was this comment directed towards?  People eat bears and lions, too.
Who are these ppl?

Plenty of bear hunters eat bear, WC.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on August 10, 2016, 09:27:30 AM
The elk farm dude I know sells most of his meat to some hipster place in Lawrence.

He says he makes more selling the horns to some boutique dog bone company tho.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: mocat on August 10, 2016, 09:28:24 AM
like i'm going to spend all that money to get to Tanzania and go on a safari and shoot a lion and then not eat it smdh
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 10, 2016, 09:28:47 AM
Emo, what is the success rate at Riley?  Iirc, they only give out like 50 or 100 tags a year.   Do you know how many elk are murked annually?

I asked the KDWP about success rates and she referred me to Riley biologist who hasn't returned my call.  They only gave out 25 total tags this year.  I think there are only ~175 animals on the fort.  I would think 25 tags wouldn't be enough to keep 175 animals in check, but maybe enough wander off the fort and get shot by the landowner/farmers.

Bull, cow, combo tag? 

Also, I bet the fort has pretty strict rules about how, where, and when you can be places and stuff.

It's just an antlerless tag, so cow or calf.  I can hunt with a bow or muzzy in September and then rifle in October.  They do have strict rules.  I have to register my firearm with the fort, take an in person safety class, call in to a number or check online for the areas I can hunt each day, and I think I have to check in and out each day.  Also I think even if I'm bow hunting I have to wear orange if I'm on the move.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 10, 2016, 09:30:19 AM
like i'm going to spend all that money to get to Tanzania and go on a safari and shoot a lion and then not eat it smdh
I would say the percentages of ppl who do this, far out weigh the ppl who actually eat a cat.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: steve dave on August 10, 2016, 09:31:04 AM
Emo, what is the success rate at Riley?  Iirc, they only give out like 50 or 100 tags a year.   Do you know how many elk are murked annually?

I asked the KDWP about success rates and she referred me to Riley biologist who hasn't returned my call.  They only gave out 25 total tags this year.  I think there are only ~175 animals on the fort.  I would think 25 tags wouldn't be enough to keep 175 animals in check, but maybe enough wander off the fort and get shot by the landowner/farmers.

Bull, cow, combo tag? 

Also, I bet the fort has pretty strict rules about how, where, and when you can be places and stuff.

It's just an antlerless tag, so cow or calf.  I can hunt with a bow or muzzy in September and then rifle in October.  They do have strict rules.  I have to register my firearm with the fort, take an in person safety class, call in to a number or check online for the areas I can hunt each day, and I think I have to check in and out each day.  Also I think even if I'm bow hunting I have to wear orange if I'm on the move.

WHAT A RUSH!
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: kim carnes on August 10, 2016, 09:32:18 AM
There's a difference between murdering big game for sport vs. murdering (deer, elk, birds, etc.) for sport/food. Preserving your kill.

Who was this comment directed towards?  People eat bears and lions, too.

Ya ok, that doesn't justify killing them
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: mocat on August 10, 2016, 09:33:10 AM
just imagine a sizzling lion steak done up just the way you like it wacky. drowning in an ocean of A1 sauce and raw eggs 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: steve dave on August 10, 2016, 09:33:24 AM
If I'm going to down an elk it's going to be a monster daddy one with huge horn racks and enormous succulent cuts of meat. and I'm going to shoot the crap out of it from a quarter mile away like a army sniper guy like god intended. then my guide is going to go drag its dead ass back to the fort we're staying at. also I'm wearing head to toe camo with face paints and a giant bandoleer or bullets and knifes. also they have like 30 taps of draft beer at the fort.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 10, 2016, 09:33:54 AM
Do ppl eat giraffe and elephants?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: steve dave on August 10, 2016, 09:34:41 AM
Do ppl eat giraffe and elephants?

when you eat a lion you're really eating both
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 10, 2016, 09:39:39 AM
There's a difference between murdering big game for sport vs. murdering (deer, elk, birds, etc.) for sport/food. Preserving your kill.

Who was this comment directed towards?  People eat bears and lions, too.
Who are these ppl?

In the lower 48 you are required by law to eat the bear.  In Alaska you don't have to but most people still do themselves or give the meat away.  I've heard coastal black bear tastes like fish.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 10, 2016, 09:41:03 AM
Do ppl eat giraffe and elephants?

Of course. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on August 10, 2016, 04:19:59 PM
congratulations, emo, that's great luck.


wetwillie, they taste like cows, which is why everyone loves eating them so much.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Cartierfor3 on August 10, 2016, 04:58:36 PM
i had no idea there were elk in kansas
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: wetwillie on August 10, 2016, 05:05:00 PM
eating a lion is where I draw the line.  No carnivores for me.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Gooch on August 10, 2016, 05:06:33 PM
eating a lion is where I draw the line.  No carnivores for me.
Fish eat other fish? Do you eat fish?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: wetwillie on August 10, 2016, 05:10:02 PM
eating a lion is where I draw the line.  No carnivores for me.
Fish eat other fish? Do you eat fish?

Most fish are omnivores, but I typically don't consume them.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on August 10, 2016, 07:30:19 PM
A lot of dumbasses in here, that are hating on hunting, that probably fish too.
Catch and release bro.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 10, 2016, 08:19:15 PM
A lot of those fish that you're catching and releasing suffer a tragic death from the fight on your hook/pole. :frown:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: pissclams on August 10, 2016, 10:03:00 PM
i have a really good giraffe meat taco recipe that i make every year on new year's day, it's a tradition i do.  the neck meat has a lot of collagen that you need to break down by cooking it low and slow but yum it's so good.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: bubbles4ksu on August 10, 2016, 11:02:52 PM
what are you going to shoot this thing with?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: kim carnes on August 10, 2016, 11:52:42 PM
This elk thing is just going to be lounging around minding his own business, living his life like one of gods creatures, and then all of a sudden he is going to feel a bullet wring through his organs, he'll fall to the ground and struggle for a few seconds wondering wtf just happened and then he'll be dead.


Congrats emo.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Bloodfart on August 11, 2016, 12:11:28 AM
Pfffft like an elk is just going to drop like that.  Emo will prolly have to follow the blood trail from that cow/calf all over the fort.  Remember he's all about that bow so he'll prolly miss and hit it in the ass so it runs off and dies a slow death from infection that the arrow lodged in it's ass caused. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: wetwillie on August 11, 2016, 12:18:59 AM
Even if the elk does survive the assassination attempt he will likely live out the rest of his days with extreme PTSD and other awful diseases of the mind.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on August 11, 2016, 02:53:38 AM
A lot of those fish that you're catching and releasing suffer a tragic death from the fight on your hook/pole. :frown:
I use perfect Jeremy Wade technique.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 11, 2016, 08:53:38 AM
what are you going to shoot this thing with?

bow or 270
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: CNS on August 11, 2016, 09:00:10 AM
Don't listen to Bloodfart, emo.  My elk dropped like 50 yds from where he was shot.  .306, though.

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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 11, 2016, 09:08:39 AM
Both deer I've shot dropped really close.  The 270 (like the 30-06) is hell on elk, and Jack O'Connor's favorite caliber.  There is nothing I would like more than to give this animal a swift death with as little damage to the meat as possible. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Cartierfor3 on August 11, 2016, 02:23:33 PM
There are elk in Riley County and it blows my mind. Are there bears and wolves and moose and stuff there too?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 11, 2016, 02:26:43 PM
There are elk in Riley County and it blows my mind. Are there bears and wolves and moose and stuff there too?
This was my first initial thought as well.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: steve dave on August 11, 2016, 02:28:48 PM
there's a beaver damn in the creek behind my house. real live beavers live there. the HOA is trying to trap them because they're eating the crap out of the trees. pretty cool?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Cartierfor3 on August 11, 2016, 02:29:48 PM
That is v cool SD
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: steve dave on August 11, 2016, 02:30:43 PM
there's also a pretty sick neighborhood club house fort thing that the kids have put together and modified over the last couple years. sometimes older kids go down there but I'm pretty sure it's to make out or burn heaters and not fix up the fort.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 11, 2016, 02:31:45 PM
there's a beaver damn in the creek behind my house. real live beavers live there. the HOA is trying to trap them because they're eating the crap out of the trees. pretty cool?

Hopefully the HOA is unsuccessful.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: steve dave on August 11, 2016, 02:32:33 PM
I always imagine a couple of the middle school kids heading down there for romance and/or cigarette smoking activities and there being a bunch of much younger but in greater number kids already occupying it and launching like hedge apples and crap out of home made catapults at the older kids little rascals style.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Cartierfor3 on August 11, 2016, 02:37:04 PM
It would be cool if they used that clubhouse to solve a mystery
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 11, 2016, 02:38:34 PM
There are elk in Riley County and it blows my mind. Are there bears and wolves and moose and stuff there too?

I don't believe so cf3.  The elk were reintroduced there in the 1990's. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Cartierfor3 on August 11, 2016, 02:39:01 PM
we should reintroduce some wild bison for grins
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 11, 2016, 02:42:16 PM
We should do it for several reasons:

1) bison are native and are essential to the health of the tallgrass prairie ecosystem
2) they are delicious
3) there is no good reason not to do it
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: steve dave on August 11, 2016, 02:43:14 PM
It would be cool if they used that clubhouse to solve a mystery

some of the new construction sites in the neighborhood have had some recent vandalism. crap dumped out, lights turned on equipment and left on all night to run down the batteries, drawings on stuff with sharpie markers, the works. I've long suspected the older group of kids. they have ten speed bikes so getting from the scene of the crime to back home quick isn't a problem. and they have the motivation to do it because they're in that starting puberty age where they are basically a bunch of weirdos. anyway, I hope the neighborhood younger kids crack it wide open and I'm found out to be right on this.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Cartierfor3 on August 11, 2016, 02:51:22 PM
that sounds like quite a caper
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Gooch on August 11, 2016, 03:05:04 PM
It would be cool if they used that clubhouse to solve a mystery

some of the new construction sites in the neighborhood have had some recent vandalism. crap dumped out, lights turned on equipment and left on all night to run down the batteries, drawings on stuff with sharpie markers, the works. I've long suspected the older group of kids. they have ten speed bikes so getting from the scene of the crime to back home quick isn't a problem. and they have the motivation to do it because they're in that starting puberty age where they are basically a bunch of weirdos. anyway, I hope the neighborhood younger kids crack it wide open and I'm found out to be right on this.
Someone should lay down the law and tell them if they keep rough ridin' around there won't be anymore ACDC cover band concerts. That should get their attention.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Skipper44 on August 11, 2016, 03:46:10 PM
But it will turn out to be the old guy that got swindled by the developer when he sold the family farm too cheap
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Dlew12 on August 11, 2016, 05:06:47 PM
no better feeling in the world than ripping an illicit heater in a treefort.  hats off to those older kids, especially if they're making out down there too.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 14, 2016, 10:59:46 AM
no better feeling in the world than ripping an illicit heater in a treefort.  hats off to those older kids, especially if they're making out down there too.

goddammit yes
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Kat Kid on August 14, 2016, 02:47:21 PM
My mom's HOA had a beaver trapping operation a couple years ago.


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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 15, 2016, 11:45:18 AM
Guys it's taxidermy day!

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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Tobias on August 15, 2016, 11:48:33 AM
112 CP stantler?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on August 15, 2016, 12:01:13 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 15, 2016, 12:09:42 PM
I was waiting for that
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: puniraptor on August 29, 2016, 06:42:47 AM
get your glocks out emo and murk all the elk you can before god comes home drunk again and nukes your herd

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/08/29/lightning-strike-kills-323-wild-reindeer-in-norway.html (http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/08/29/lightning-strike-kills-323-wild-reindeer-in-norway.html)
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 29, 2016, 08:55:37 AM
Why in the eff aren't they called caribou?   :facepalm:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: HerrSonntag on August 29, 2016, 09:06:54 AM
Thats a nice looking european mount Emo!
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: HerrSonntag on August 29, 2016, 09:11:32 AM
We should do it for several reasons:

1) bison are native and are essential to the health of the tallgrass prairie ecosystem
2) they are delicious
3) there is no good reason not to do it
I was taking a walk through Chisholm creek park in wichita, last Thursday, and there were a couple meadows that were just lousy with pig weed and other junk.  Deer are the only ruminants in that park and they won't touch any of the nastier stuff, so i was thinking "They need some Bison up in here to clean this out!"   But then i thought about a refrigerator sized animal plowing through the fence and onto K96 and it made me sad.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 29, 2016, 09:57:34 AM
You mean like cattle?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: HerrSonntag on August 29, 2016, 03:45:36 PM
Cattle the ruminant or cattle the refrigerator sized animal? 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 29, 2016, 03:48:32 PM
I mean that cows, beef cattle or whatever you want to call them, are just as likely to end up on K-96 as bison, and are comparatively sized.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: HerrSonntag on August 29, 2016, 03:50:45 PM
I'd always heard bison are more likely to knock over a fence and get out than cattle, but that might just be a lie started by Big Meatgoat
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 29, 2016, 03:52:56 PM
You know what I want to hunt that I bet would be super easy? A fainting goat!!!
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 29, 2016, 03:54:51 PM
I'd always heard bison are more likely to knock over a fence and get out than cattle, but that might just be a lie started by Big Meatgoat

Maybe.  I've never seen a bison get loose though.  And I've seen more than one family (in-laws) get together spoiled by someone looking out the window and saying "awwww sheeeet the cows are out again!"
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: bubbles4ksu on August 29, 2016, 04:02:07 PM
I exploded some tannerite with an AR, a Mosin, and a Garand last weekend. Very fun evening. No animals killed though.  :frown:
Title: Killing animals
Post by: 8manpick on August 29, 2016, 04:31:28 PM
I exploded some tannerite with an AR, a Mosin, and a Garand last weekend. Very fun evening. No animals killed though.  :frown:

A few years back, @manbearpig and I watched a guy blow up a junked car with some Tannerite and a .30-06. Very entertaining
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: wetwillie on August 29, 2016, 05:08:09 PM
I exploded some tannerite with an AR, a Mosin, and a Garand last weekend. Very fun evening. No animals killed though.  :frown:

I've always wanted to shoot a mosin, how far were you taking shots from with it?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: bubbles4ksu on August 29, 2016, 05:19:20 PM
A few years back, @manbearpig and I watched a guy blow up a junked car with some Tannerite and a .30-06. Very entertaining
we should do this someday with sharonspringscat or @manbearpig

I've always wanted to shoot a mosin, how far were you taking shots from with it?
maybe 125yds. we really sucked with it and the M1. it was getting dark and we couldn't see where we were missing. we definitely did not do justice to either rifle. but the AR had a scope so we couldn't miss.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: bubbles4ksu on August 29, 2016, 05:26:22 PM
i also took out one of these little guys that belonged to my great grandpa. his gun is less pretty but very fun to shoot.

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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 30, 2016, 08:44:51 AM
That gun had to have belonged to General Patton's wife.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 16, 2016, 09:22:37 AM
This bull owes me money, and tomorrow I'm coming to collect. 

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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: steve dave on September 16, 2016, 09:25:04 AM
that's a deer dummy
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on September 16, 2016, 09:29:33 AM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: wetwillie on September 16, 2016, 09:51:09 AM
Hung like a deer anyway
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 16, 2016, 09:52:11 AM
Low Hunter IQ here. After you kill said animals, do you piss on them to claim territory as well?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 16, 2016, 10:06:43 AM
With elk I've heard that people will pee around the kill site or wherever you hang the meat to keep coyotes and bears away (there is no possible way to get all the meat in one pack out).
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 16, 2016, 10:21:43 AM
 :sdeek:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: The Big Train on September 16, 2016, 10:23:53 AM
With elk I've heard that people will pee around the kill site or wherever you hang the meat to keep coyotes and bears away (there is no possible way to get all the meat in one pack out).

There is if you aren't a gigantic pussy
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on September 16, 2016, 10:29:35 AM
He's a tiny tom cruise, leave him alone
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 16, 2016, 10:44:08 AM
He's a tiny tom cruise, leave him alone

I'm the same size as Tom Cruise.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on September 16, 2016, 10:45:49 AM
Apologies
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: CNS on September 16, 2016, 10:45:49 AM
Nice elk. 

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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Skipper44 on September 18, 2016, 02:34:13 PM
With elk I've heard that people will pee around the kill site or wherever you hang the meat to keep coyotes and bears away (there is no possible way to get all the meat in one pack out).
that sucks, seems like there is a biz opportunity for that service considering the costs just get to where it is needed
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 26, 2016, 04:32:11 PM
With elk I've heard that people will pee around the kill site or wherever you hang the meat to keep coyotes and bears away (there is no possible way to get all the meat in one pack out).
that sucks, seems like there is a biz opportunity for that service considering the costs just get to where it is needed

You can indeed hire a meat packer.  400 bucks and up depending the location.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SEK_EMAW on September 27, 2016, 10:36:25 AM
Any luck with that big bull, Emo?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 27, 2016, 10:55:55 AM
No, failed.  This year was worlds more successful than last year, though.  Found a great little honey hole of unpressured and mature elk.  Got to full draw twice (once at 12 yards, the other at 43 yards), but brush always obscured the vitals and I never let loose an arrow.  Stalked to within 100 yards of a 365 class bull with 25 cows, mainframe 6x7 but he had some extra junk going on with his fronts, was probably an 8x9 or something like that.  Heard lots of bugles and were on elk almost every day.  Had a bear sashay through camp one morning, left us a hot steamer about 30 yards from my tent.  On the pack in I realized I had contracted HFM disease from my son and I developed a dozen blisters each on the bottoms of my feet, few on my hands and in my mouth, so that sucked.  Also thought I got giardia but it got better pretty quick.  All in all a great time.  I'll post some pics here in a bit.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: steve dave on September 27, 2016, 11:01:57 AM
if that's a successful hunting trip I'd like a summary of an unsuccessful one please
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 27, 2016, 11:05:02 AM
One time we went hunting and got rear-ended by a semi and one dog ran off and the other tore it's ACL and broke both hips, and then had to put another dog down when we got home because of an intestinal blockage.  I'd say that was pretty unsuccessful. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Tobias on September 27, 2016, 11:06:50 AM
different trip?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on September 27, 2016, 11:31:11 AM
I feel terrible for laughing so hard at that. Poor doggies tho  :frown:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 27, 2016, 11:35:16 AM
Luckily we found the dog that ran off 9 days later, about 15 lbs lighter but it only had a torn ACL too.  Both dogs made good recoveries.  That one dog is still dead, though.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on September 27, 2016, 11:37:06 AM
How ironic that the unsuccessful one has more animal killing that the successful one. What a time to be alive
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: wetwillie on September 27, 2016, 12:06:32 PM
I thought you drew a tag at the fort? I thought it was going to be a sure thing.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on September 27, 2016, 12:12:59 PM
This was a Colorado trip (I think)
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 27, 2016, 12:25:35 PM
Correct lib, I committed to the Colorado trip before I knew I drew the Fort Riley tag.  So I get two elk hunts this year.  This month I'll be on the fort until the deed is done.  Then I have two deer tags to fill (one western KS mule deer rifle, then some lousy whitetail doe that I'll only try with a bow).  I'd also like my wife to shoot her first deer but don't know if it's in the cards.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: meow meow on September 27, 2016, 02:00:52 PM
How ironic that the unsuccessful one has more animal killing that the successful one. What a time to be alive

 :lol:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: schreds21 on September 27, 2016, 02:37:40 PM
How ironic that the unsuccessful one has more animal killing that the successful one. What a time to be alive
I've hunted all my life and only just now realized how much it has in common with KU football.  It's all about the setting and success is not necessarily measured in wins (kills).
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on September 27, 2016, 04:25:48 PM
i just get out of my car and start walking, shoot the first example of the target species i see, then go home and eat it.  i can never sort out in my own mind if i should be lolling at or admiring the hunters like emo that make a huge production out of the whole thing.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: puniraptor on September 28, 2016, 12:26:57 AM
This was a Colorado trip (I think)

oh ok. I was prepared to open an official inquiry into this Kansas Bear
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 28, 2016, 08:39:59 AM
i just get out of my car and start walking, shoot the first example of the target species i see, then go home and eat it.  i can never sort out in my own mind if i should be lolling at or admiring the hunters like emo that make a huge production out of the whole thing.

I would have shot the first legal bull I could, there was just never an ethical opportunity.  The tag I had only has a statewide 12% success rate, and talking to people we had a lot more action than most.  Add to that we don't have the benefit of living there and keeping and eye on animals over the summer and getting to pounce on them opening day when they are stupid.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 28, 2016, 08:50:45 AM
Oh, man. If I lived there, I'd just set up feeders so those stupid elk would be right next to the truck when the killing time comes. Work smart, not hard.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Tobias on September 28, 2016, 08:57:40 AM
the dead dogs are the bait, rage.  smdh
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 28, 2016, 08:59:37 AM
the dead dogs are the bait, rage.  smdh

Elk don't eat dog meat, though. The way I hunt, I don't even need to kill my dogs. They get to just stay home and wait on me to give them a tasty elk heart for dinner.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 28, 2016, 09:20:31 AM
Also, nothing worthwhile comes easy.  I embrace the suck.  I like it.  I like taking real risks.  We live such comfortable lives that I relish the struggle, knowing that I have everything I need on my back, that only my wit and gumption can keep me alive. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 28, 2016, 09:55:21 AM
Well, my dogs embrace staying alive with full mobility, while getting to share that delicious heart. I also save the liver and give it to them on Christmas day. They love it.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on September 28, 2016, 09:58:48 AM
Also, nothing worthwhile comes easy.  I embrace the suck.  I like it.  I like taking real risks.  We live such comfortable lives that I relish the struggle, knowing that I have everything I need on my back, that only my wit and gumption can keep me alive.

Wit, gumption, and a few thousand dollars of top of the line survival gear
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: schreds21 on September 28, 2016, 10:18:33 AM
  I'll post some pics here in a bit.
:impatient:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 28, 2016, 10:25:05 AM
Also, nothing worthwhile comes easy.  I embrace the suck.  I like it.  I like taking real risks.  We live such comfortable lives that I relish the struggle, knowing that I have everything I need on my back, that only my wit and gumption can keep me alive.

Wit, gumption, and a few thousand dollars of top of the line survival gear

Well, ya.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 28, 2016, 10:34:30 AM
Also, nothing worthwhile comes easy.  I embrace the suck.  I like it.  I like taking real risks.  We live such comfortable lives that I relish the struggle, knowing that I have everything I need on my back, that only my wit and gumption can keep me alive.
Good for you. I like your passion. Not a lot of people have a passion for certain things in life and it makes me sad.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: meow meow on September 28, 2016, 11:07:27 AM
what's your passion wacky?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: RickRampus on September 28, 2016, 11:23:10 AM
if you have to ask
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on September 28, 2016, 04:00:08 PM
I would have shot the first legal bull I could, there was just never an ethical opportunity.  The tag I had only has a statewide 12% success rate, and talking to people we had a lot more action than most.  Add to that we don't have the benefit of living there and keeping and eye on animals over the summer and getting to pounce on them opening day when they are stupid.

just choosing to try to kill a bull elk with an arrow is like 80% of making a huge production out of it in my mind.  choosing to do it 500 miles from where you live is another 10%.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Tobias on September 28, 2016, 04:04:10 PM
choosing a bottle of wine must be exhausting
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 28, 2016, 04:06:37 PM
Ok so we left KC on Friday after work and drove all night.  :driving:  Got to town at about 5AM, picked up some water and last little goodies and drove to the trailhead.  It's not really much of a trailhead, like it's not marked or anything, but I had internet scouted it an thought we could access some prime ground from this spot.  Here's what it looked like from the truck:

(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g180/stuck_in_ks/IMG_3377.jpg) (http://s56.photobucket.com/user/stuck_in_ks/media/IMG_3377.jpg.html)

And a topo map of the area:

(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g180/stuck_in_ks/pack%20in.jpg) (http://s56.photobucket.com/user/stuck_in_ks/media/pack%20in.jpg.html)

Basically we had to get from point A to point B to start getting into animals, about 1 mile as the crow flies and 1500 feet of vertical gain until we drop off the edge.  The shades represent the steepness.  Basically no shade is walkable without trekking poles, yellow is poles and nervous moments, red gets to be like WTF are we doing, and purple is go cats obviously.

The first day we got to the top and before we dropped off we went to check on a spring which was basically a cattle tank full of cattle piss and crap.  Disappointment.  I had a filter but it's only good for bacteria (like giardia), but not viruses.  Too risky.  That meant we'd have to drop the 1500ft every other/third day to get to the creek to get water.  That evening we elected to camp up high and glass into the land below to confirm animals were there before we dropped off. 

(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g180/stuck_in_ks/IMG_3411.jpg) (http://s56.photobucket.com/user/stuck_in_ks/media/IMG_3411.jpg.html)

(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g180/stuck_in_ks/IMG_3413.jpg) (http://s56.photobucket.com/user/stuck_in_ks/media/IMG_3413.jpg.html)

About this time I really noticed something was wrong.  I had contracted hand-foot-mouth disease from my son and had a dozen blisters on the bottoms of each foot, a half dozen each hand, and some in my mouth, which basically made everything I did painful.  But, press on I must, so I did.

(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g180/stuck_in_ks/IMG_3415.jpg) (http://s56.photobucket.com/user/stuck_in_ks/media/IMG_3415.jpg.html)

Anyway we saw animals for sure, a half dozen bulls, all 5x5's or larger, and a cow/calf combo.

(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g180/stuck_in_ks/IMG_2565.jpg) (http://s56.photobucket.com/user/stuck_in_ks/media/IMG_2565.jpg.html)

(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g180/stuck_in_ks/th_IMG_2608.mp4) (http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g180/stuck_in_ks/IMG_2608.mp4)  <-- this is a video click it

The ground was too rocky to sink tent stakes so we just slept under the stars that night.  We actually spent the first three or four nights under the stars, made me wonder why I even bothered to bring a tent at all. 

The next morning we saw most of the same animals, which told me they were in the area as a part of habit (not transient), so it was worth it to drop in.  We only brought three days worth of food, and already through 1.5 days, I elected to go back to the truck and get 3 more days worth of food for both of us, stove fuel, TP, and another day's worth of water in case the creek in the bottom was no good, so then we could at least get out.  That was a 5 hour round trip.  I tried to take a short cut, which was probably shorter distance but more time.

(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g180/stuck_in_ks/IMG_2611.jpg) (http://s56.photobucket.com/user/stuck_in_ks/media/IMG_2611.jpg.html)

I met back up with my partner about 3PM and we hiked along the ridgeline until we saw these rocks stacked:

(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g180/stuck_in_ks/IMG_3504.jpg) (http://s56.photobucket.com/user/stuck_in_ks/media/IMG_3504.jpg.html)

This usually means something so we investigated, and found an old horse trail to the bottom, which meant we wouldn't have to slog through timber and brush (as much).

We get to the bench about 4PM, hike further down towards where we saw the elk, and for the heck of it we decide to try some cold calling.  I suck at calling turkeys and coyotes but we try it anyway without much expectation.  Twenty minutes in and my partner starts signalling an elk in coming in!  He's the shooter, I'm the caller.  Unfortunately the wind and sun meant he had to hide behind a bush, and the elk never gave him a clear shot.  It came in and looped around to wind me, and I saw his horns coming over the top of the oak brush.  I drew my bow and aligned my peep and pins and waited until I expected him to come into an opening for a clear shot.  He came, but stopped at the opening at 12 yards and just looked at me.  I had no shot at his lungs or heart (just neck and head), so I waited.  A few seconds go by and he lunges back, I call more, he hangs out just 20 yards away for a few minutes, and eventually walks away.  My partner never maneuvered to get a shot.  He was in the opening dead center of pic.

(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g180/stuck_in_ks/IMG_2616.jpg) (http://s56.photobucket.com/user/stuck_in_ks/media/IMG_2616.jpg.html)

By this time it's 6PM or later and we start looking for a place to camp.  Then, a bugle!  I call, and two ridges down 300 yards away out walks a nice bull bugling his guts out.  I call more, and he drops into the bottom and back up, now just one ridge over, 150 yards away.  I call a few more times and see he's not interested in coming closer, so with the falling sun we decide to leave him be.

Camp that night.

(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g180/stuck_in_ks/IMG_3429.jpg) (http://s56.photobucket.com/user/stuck_in_ks/media/IMG_3429.jpg.html)

The next morning we hear some bugles and chase them down the major drainage, but they stop once we are getting closer.  The wind was getting swirly so we decide to find water.  We spend an hour or so at the creek filtering about 20 liters of water which should get us through a couple days.  On the way back up we cold call some more, no luck (probably too hot).

(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g180/stuck_in_ks/IMG_3422.jpg) (http://s56.photobucket.com/user/stuck_in_ks/media/IMG_3422.jpg.html)

At about 2PM we're resting in the shadows of some oak brush when we hear a faint bugle, so we move in that direction.  A few minutes later another, and then another.  I creep along and eventually glass the bull bedded 172 yards away.  We watch a while and he bugles every few minutes and I decide he is alone, which plays into our strategy.  A lone bull, you want to pretend to be a cow elk to get him horny to come to you.  A bull with cows, you want to sneak in close and then rip off a loud bugle pretending to be another bull elk there to steal his ladies, so he must defend their honor and come and fight.  So I start cow calling, he bugles, more cow calls, more bugles, but he's showing no interest in getting up.  Further down the way we heard another bugle, too.  So I start raking this tree, making all sorts of commotion, breaking branches, stomping around, huffing and puffing, the works.  He bugles back, the other bull down the way rakes, too, but still no real action.  Then, my partner starts signalling to me ELK ELK.  The other bull had come in silent and was now 20 yards from my partner staring right at him.  Then he's looking at me.  He eventually turns his head and walks behind a juniper tree, so I crouch down and grab my bow and range a bush, 43 yards away I guess, and I draw.  Out he steps broadside, but I can only see his head/neck and the top third of his body.  There is a bush obscuring his vitals at 20 yards.  So I wait, I'm prepared to hold that bow back as long as it takes.  He eventually winds my partner and buggers.  eff.

So we focus our attention back on the bedded bull, who eventually stands and begins to feed.  We realize he has as least two cows with him, so we try to get in close, but they aren't having that and they walk off.  eff crap.  That evening we glass a nice bull across the drainage running cows hard, but it's too late to make a play.  Oh I also found three toads further to the east, well over a mile away.  TOADS.  BIG.

(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g180/stuck_in_ks/IMG_3460.jpg) (http://s56.photobucket.com/user/stuck_in_ks/media/IMG_3460.jpg.html)

The next morning not much action, and while we're cold calling some dude comes walking up the trail.  We talk a bit, he tells us there is a spring just 200 yards from our camp.   :excited: but also  :facepalm:  We agree to stay east of the major drainage and he'll stay west.  Not much more action that day, we visit the spring in the afternoon and get more water. 

(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g180/stuck_in_ks/IMG_3449.jpg) (http://s56.photobucket.com/user/stuck_in_ks/media/IMG_3449.jpg.html)

That night my stomach started feeling bad, I'll spare you the details but I victimized my underwear and had to roll al fresco the next morning.  So we're up first light headed towards a bugle, and then we hear another one in the opposite direction but upwind so we change course.  Bugle, move, bugle, move.  The terrain has some curvature so even 100 yards away we couldn't see this bull, but I could hear him and his cows mew mew mew mew mew just fine.  I lost my mind and was a dumb ass and cow called to him, and he (I think) basically spooked and rounded up his 25 cows and moved off in a hurry, and he was rough ridin' HUGE.  Main frame 6x7 with great mass and he had some extra crap going on with his fronts, may have been an 8x9.  Just a beast of a bull.  I thought I knew where he was headed so we chased him.  Turns out he was headed to the next county.  We chased for two miles and could never catch up, glassed him and his string of cows moving off in the distance.  Heart break.  Despair.  Self-loathing.  Why the eff did I cow call?  I still don't know.  I lost my crap.

That evening pretty much same scenario, trying to make a play on that same original bull, but we switch directions and chase this other elk for about two miles.  He's bugling and moving away and we're running trying to catch him.  Just when we get close I come around a bend and see two cows and rip off a huge challenge bugle expecting the bull to come ready to fight.  Instead it's just a wimpy spike bull (not legal) and I let them go.  eff crap eff.

We get some rain, have to set up tents.

(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g180/stuck_in_ks/IMG_3474.jpg) (http://s56.photobucket.com/user/stuck_in_ks/media/IMG_3474.jpg.html)

The next morning we try for that same original bull who is a pretty consistent bugler, but by the time we get there the wind is swirling and we decide to pause chase.  Lots of rubs all over.

(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g180/stuck_in_ks/IMG_2644.jpg) (http://s56.photobucket.com/user/stuck_in_ks/media/IMG_2644.jpg.html)

(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g180/stuck_in_ks/IMG_2618.jpg) (http://s56.photobucket.com/user/stuck_in_ks/media/IMG_2618.jpg.html)

(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g180/stuck_in_ks/IMG_2645.jpg) (http://s56.photobucket.com/user/stuck_in_ks/media/IMG_2645.jpg.html)

We're almost out of food, and I offer to go back to the truck again and get more, but my partner thinks we ought to move on as the action isn't as good, so we pack up and leave.  It was a beautiful pack out with all the colors.

(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g180/stuck_in_ks/IMG_3486.jpg) (http://s56.photobucket.com/user/stuck_in_ks/media/IMG_3486.jpg.html)

My pack at the saddle.  I really wanted to be hauling out meat, but I didn't have what it takes apparently.

(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g180/stuck_in_ks/IMG_3501.jpg) (http://s56.photobucket.com/user/stuck_in_ks/media/IMG_3501.jpg.html)

We scout some new areas that night, no bugles, and a massive storm rolls through (we sleep in the truck, awful).  Next morning glass the local elk herd (100+ animals) on private ground.

(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g180/stuck_in_ks/IMG_2631.jpg) (http://s56.photobucket.com/user/stuck_in_ks/media/IMG_2631.jpg.html)

(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g180/stuck_in_ks/IMG_2633.jpg) (http://s56.photobucket.com/user/stuck_in_ks/media/IMG_2633.jpg.html)

Eat at the local greasy spoon, the waitress was impressed how much I put away (chicken friend steak, two eggs, hash browns, two pieces of toast with butter AND jam, two biscuits with butter and honey, and two pieces of pie--one apple one cherry).  Felt good to deuce on a regular toilet.

We decided to hunt an area we hunted in last year, still rainy.

(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g180/stuck_in_ks/IMG_2647.jpg) (http://s56.photobucket.com/user/stuck_in_ks/media/IMG_2647.jpg.html)

Long story short, no recent elk sign.  Bear went through our camp, pooped.  We packed out, headed home.

I have another cool video I'll post once it's done uploading.  I know I know TLDR.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 28, 2016, 04:09:17 PM
I would have shot the first legal bull I could, there was just never an ethical opportunity.  The tag I had only has a statewide 12% success rate, and talking to people we had a lot more action than most.  Add to that we don't have the benefit of living there and keeping and eye on animals over the summer and getting to pounce on them opening day when they are stupid.

just choosing to try to kill a bull elk with an arrow is like 80% of making a huge production out of it in my mind.  choosing to do it 500 miles from where you live is another 10%.

Archery tags are easy to get.  If I could shoot elk with a rifle close to home I would.  I've chosen the option which gives me the highest chance of success as close to home as possible.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: puniraptor on September 28, 2016, 04:14:13 PM
Do I even have to say it?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: CNS on September 28, 2016, 04:22:38 PM
You should throw an arrow through a bush next time.  May not be perfect, but may work fine.  I mean, if he is right on the bush, as long as you don't hit trunk or limb, you will still hit pretty close to your aim. 

Beats going home with nothing but poop in your pants.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: steve dave on September 28, 2016, 04:24:24 PM
there are deer bigger than that at the drive through zoo west of my house and I have an annual pass and let the 3 year old sit in the front seat not in a child seat while we drive by them. highlight of the trip if his reaction when one poops.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: steve dave on September 28, 2016, 04:24:46 PM
in fact, those deer look pud compared to my zoo deer
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on September 28, 2016, 04:27:46 PM
I liked the story Emo, please post similar things in the future
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: steve dave on September 28, 2016, 04:28:12 PM
I also liked it
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 28, 2016, 04:34:52 PM
Do I even have to say it?

I'm sorry I didn't post pictures of my food.  It was pretty disgusto and right up your alley.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 28, 2016, 04:35:53 PM
You should throw an arrow through a bush next time.  May not be perfect, but may work fine.  I mean, if he is right on the bush, as long as you don't hit trunk or limb, you will still hit pretty close to your aim. 

Beats going home with nothing but poop in your pants.

Unethical.  :nono:  Risk of wounding an animal is too high.  Wounding an animal is worse than going home with nothing (but poop in my pants).
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on September 28, 2016, 04:37:13 PM
i hadn't realized you had a giant bull with 25 cows at 100 yards and you cow called like a dumbass.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 28, 2016, 04:38:29 PM
That's where the self-loathing comes in.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: meow meow on September 28, 2016, 04:39:32 PM
why wouldn't you bring good food to eat like steak?  it's still a vacation right?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 28, 2016, 04:42:16 PM
Steak is heavy.  You want to maximize your calories per ounce while still maintaining nutrition.  I aim for 2750 calories per day, 100 calories per ounce, and 120 grams of protein daily.  So like dehydrated chilli's and then trail mix, almonds, protein bars, protein shake, etc.  Also I'm too damn tired to make a fire each night.  We only had one fire the whole time.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: CNS on September 28, 2016, 04:46:07 PM
You should throw an arrow through a bush next time.  May not be perfect, but may work fine.  I mean, if he is right on the bush, as long as you don't hit trunk or limb, you will still hit pretty close to your aim. 

Beats going home with nothing but poop in your pants.

Unethical.  :nono:  Risk of wounding an animal is too high.  Wounding an animal is worse than going home with nothing (but poop in my pants).

Hmmm....IDK.  I mean, he may run towards the truck for like an hour and die.  That would be pretty alright!
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on September 28, 2016, 04:48:52 PM
what if you wounded it with the arrow, but luckily your friend has a rifle handy and immediately puts it out of it's misery?  that seems pretty ethical.

Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: CNS on September 28, 2016, 04:51:34 PM
I would still wait just a second and see if it would chose to run toward the truck.  Maybe shoot him once he no longer is running in the right direction.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on September 28, 2016, 04:52:02 PM
although is it really ethical to wound it first when you have the ability to put it out of its misery before it begins to suffer?  also harder to get an ethical kill on the run.  most ethically, once you draw, your buddy should preshoot the elk and you release when you hear the report.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: yoga-like_abana on September 28, 2016, 05:09:37 PM
I also enjoyed that emo! looks beautiful
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: puniraptor on September 28, 2016, 06:14:44 PM
My favorite parts in order:

1, when you pooped your pants
2, chicken fried steak
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: IPA4Me on September 28, 2016, 06:32:14 PM
Cool trip, Emo. Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: schreds21 on September 28, 2016, 08:25:16 PM
Thanks for sharing Emo!  Looked like a wonderful trip.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 28, 2016, 09:52:11 PM
That was awesome, bud! Love it!
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 28, 2016, 09:58:24 PM
Emo, that was beautiful and I love your passion for finding the outdoors in a fun way. None of this blog would exist without the old way of roughing it like our ancestors. Gotta pay tribute!  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on September 28, 2016, 10:29:23 PM
That's the best post Emo has made and I enjoyed it a lot.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 29, 2016, 09:37:45 AM
Thanks guys.  I know it may not look like it on it's face, but this was a successful trip.

1)  I had found a place with animals, including trophy animals, with almost no other hunting pressure, and a relatively short pack-in (2ish miles and 1500ft elevation is cake compared to wilderness hunts).  I think we made our pack out in less than 3 hours.  I also think we could do it in the dark if we had to.  I can buy this tag any year I want, I don't have to draw one.  Also, there is water in an otherwise high-desert type environment.  That's crucial.  You don't want to expend all this effort just to drink.
2)  I successfully called in two bulls, and got to full draw twice. 
3)  We were in to animals almost every day.

It's really painful for me to invest all this effort in preparation and not kill something.  So many nights I was at the gym grinding while my wife and kid slept.  Or I was up late looking at Google Earth trying to find places to go.  Or I was on the phone with everyone from the game warden to outfitters to biologists to asst director of roads folks.  It's a big time and especially emotional investment.  This was my year.  And now I have to stew over some things I might now do differently.  Add to it this is time away from my family.  When we packed out I called home (from the high spot where I got service) and my wife told me my 2 y/o son kept saying "daddy come home."  That kills me that I would willfully choose to be away from them and not achieve my goal.  I failed them in that respect.  I know I could have hunted harder, gotten up earlier, stayed out later, bullied my partner into doing it my way, etc etc.  The only thing I know to do is to re-double my efforts and try again next year, and hopefully with my additional knowledge and experience I can get it done.  I will punish myself over the next year so that I am totally ready.  This is my vow.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: kim carnes on September 29, 2016, 09:53:56 AM
I for one am glad you didn't kill anything
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: RickRampus on September 29, 2016, 09:54:38 AM
I like the zeal, emo
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: wELLsculptedbrows on September 29, 2016, 10:36:33 AM
weird dude energy
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SEK_EMAW on September 29, 2016, 11:11:00 AM
@emo -  :thumbs: :thumbs:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 29, 2016, 03:39:48 PM
I'd like to address a misconception:

It wasn't the spring water that made me sick.  After all we took that water from the source, and it hasn't seen light since before Jesus Christ was just a twinkle in His Daddy's eye.  It was my protein chowder that did it.  It contains whole foods and is supposed to stay refrigerated.  I guess it spoiled after a few days.  I dumped the rest that I had and drank many liters of that water with no apparent adverse affects.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on September 29, 2016, 03:43:39 PM
sorry

and do many powders need to be refrigerated? (serious question)
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 29, 2016, 03:44:32 PM
sorry

and do many powders need to be refrigerated? (serious question)

It's the only one I've come across that's like that. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Tobias on September 29, 2016, 03:47:35 PM
all that planning and you didn't think to call the chowder manufacturer?  risky indeed
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 29, 2016, 03:58:31 PM
I take two protein powders on a regular day.

1 is more of a meal replacement in the morning, 150 calories per ~30g scoop. 
1 is more of a pure protein/after workout chowder, only 110 calories per ~30g scoop.

So I decided to risk it for the extra 80 calories per day (2 scoops), which if I had to replace elsewhere would have meant an additional 6.4 ounces.  In retrospect it was a poor decision.   :bs:

Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Asteriskhead on September 29, 2016, 05:58:16 PM
I am going to resist the urge to make fun of you in this particular situation. Thanks for sharing. The pictures are awesome.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 10, 2016, 09:15:12 AM
This weekend I was up on Fort Riley looking for the elks again.  Found some fresh'ish tracks, but only one animal (not like a herd).  So, better than last weekend but still not great.  On Sunday night four does (deer) ran right at me and I had a tag and we're out of steaks so heck with it I shot one.  Took me two hours to break her down by myself.  Got home about 1230 and taking care of the meat some more I didn't get to bed until about 3AM.  Today might suck.

Aaaaand I just realized my grill is broken.  eff.  Was planning on fresh steaks this week. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on October 10, 2016, 09:42:57 AM
Do doe steaks make the entire neighborhood smell like that gross deer meat smell?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Gooch on October 10, 2016, 09:44:55 AM
Do doe steaks make the entire neighborhood smell like that gross deer meat smell?
Generally yes. :barf:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 10, 2016, 10:00:23 AM
Do doe steaks make the entire neighborhood smell like that gross deer meat smell?

Dunno, this will be my first time eating doe.  Have heard they taste better than old buck which is what I'm used to eating (and love).  If you get all the fat out it's better than beef IMO.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SEK_EMAW on October 21, 2016, 09:06:46 AM
Got my 2015 bow kill back from the taxidermist yesterday.

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y148/c_holt/IMG_0441_zpswxhvful3.jpg)
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 21, 2016, 09:08:20 AM
Wow great deer!  The taxi did a really nice job with him, too.  Did you by chance age him?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SEK_EMAW on October 21, 2016, 09:22:04 AM
No, I didn't.  I'd guess 4 1/2 or 5 1/2. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Gooch on October 21, 2016, 09:27:28 AM
Never seen a deer tree before.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: HerrSonntag on October 21, 2016, 09:55:45 AM
Emo, do you have any issues with breaking down your doe so quickly after harvest?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 21, 2016, 12:00:02 PM
Emo, do you have any issues with breaking down your doe so quickly after harvest?

Not really.  It was the first one I've done by myself.  I do the gutless method.  It was kinda warm and there were a lot of mosquitos and it was dark and all of that was annoying.  I stuck myself a couple times with my knife point but didn't bleed.  Fort Riley lets you drive your vehicle to the kill site so that's what I did.  I could have loaded her whole or have gutted her and then loaded but 1) I hate gutting, 2) I wanted to get the hide off ASAP to get the meat cooling, and 3) I didn't want all these extra pieces ending up at my house.  For a few days my truck smelled like dead deer because I didn't get to wash off my hands that good and I got it on the steering wheel.  It kinda smelled good and bad.  I really like taking them apart, aside from like the bugs and darkness.  I like butchering too.  I don't know how many more deer I will shoot when it's hot outside though.  Better when cold.  I figure it takes about 15-20 man hours to get a deer from dead carcass in the field to meat packaged ready for consumption.  Maybe more.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: HerrSonntag on October 21, 2016, 01:12:29 PM
Emo, do you have any issues with breaking down your doe so quickly after harvest?

Not really.  It was the first one I've done by myself.  I do the gutless method.  It was kinda warm and there were a lot of mosquitos and it was dark and all of that was annoying.  I stuck myself a couple times with my knife point but didn't bleed.  Fort Riley lets you drive your vehicle to the kill site so that's what I did.  I could have loaded her whole or have gutted her and then loaded but 1) I hate gutting, 2) I wanted to get the hide off ASAP to get the meat cooling, and 3) I didn't want all these extra pieces ending up at my house.  For a few days my truck smelled like dead deer because I didn't get to wash off my hands that good and I got it on the steering wheel.  It kinda smelled good and bad.  I really like taking them apart, aside from like the bugs and darkness.  I like butchering too.  I don't know how many more deer I will shoot when it's hot outside though.  Better when cold.  I figure it takes about 15-20 man hours to get a deer from dead carcass in the field to meat packaged ready for consumption.  Maybe more.
I'd always red that if you quarter/butcher the harvest before rigor mortis sets in, the meat will seize up.  Do you just butcher at the joints?  I suppose you wouldn't really have this problem if you left all the large muscle groups intact.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 21, 2016, 01:27:26 PM
Emo, do you have any issues with breaking down your doe so quickly after harvest?

Not really.  It was the first one I've done by myself.  I do the gutless method.  It was kinda warm and there were a lot of mosquitos and it was dark and all of that was annoying.  I stuck myself a couple times with my knife point but didn't bleed.  Fort Riley lets you drive your vehicle to the kill site so that's what I did.  I could have loaded her whole or have gutted her and then loaded but 1) I hate gutting, 2) I wanted to get the hide off ASAP to get the meat cooling, and 3) I didn't want all these extra pieces ending up at my house.  For a few days my truck smelled like dead deer because I didn't get to wash off my hands that good and I got it on the steering wheel.  It kinda smelled good and bad.  I really like taking them apart, aside from like the bugs and darkness.  I like butchering too.  I don't know how many more deer I will shoot when it's hot outside though.  Better when cold.  I figure it takes about 15-20 man hours to get a deer from dead carcass in the field to meat packaged ready for consumption.  Maybe more.
I'd always red that if you quarter/butcher the harvest before rigor mortis sets in, the meat will seize up.  Do you just butcher at the joints?  I suppose you wouldn't really have this problem if you left all the large muscle groups intact.

I just took off the quarters, so the muscles still stayed attached to the leg bones.  I have heard the same as you.  I have heard if you leave them on the bone a few days then the muscles relax again and can be butchered no problem. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 25, 2016, 05:18:52 PM
What's with this proposed Kansas constitutional amendment about hunting?? Should I vote yes or no?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 25, 2016, 05:40:17 PM
What's with this proposed Kansas constitutional amendment about hunting?? Should I vote yes or no?

I don't think it makes any difference either way.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: CNS on October 25, 2016, 05:40:55 PM
Seems to be a backdoor into shooting whatevs whenevs and could possibly harm conservation.  I haven't read it, just watched a news thingy on it.

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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Tobias on October 25, 2016, 05:47:38 PM
increases available elk tags but cedes public land to the clinton foundation
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: puniraptor on October 26, 2016, 03:06:20 AM
Kansas is too flippant with Constitutional Amendments. Vote No.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 26, 2016, 07:41:01 AM
Do you have a link Mrs Gooch?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: puniraptor on October 26, 2016, 07:44:57 AM
Do you have a link Mrs Gooch?
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161026/5b52477f597df502c448bc2b39635858.jpg)
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: puniraptor on October 26, 2016, 07:45:25 AM
lol Tapatalk compression
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 26, 2016, 07:52:25 AM
These amendments are not uncommon, currently the right to hunt/fish is guaranteed by ~17 states.

Here's my take:  this is a defensive amendment aimed at putting something in place that would be hard to get rid of much further down the road.  It doesn't really do anything now.  I'm voting yes.  The extreme opposite of a place like Kansas would be a place like California, where anti-hunters have successfully chipped away at the edges of hunting.  For example, they've outlawed mountain lion hunting, and now deer populations are at all-time lows, and the state spends many millions of dollars hiring professionals to take out problem lions.  Same with some forms of bear hunting there. 

The wildlife belongs to the public, the state is charged with managing the wildlife according to sound and proven conservation science.  Without hunting, you'll end up with lots of very controversial deer shoots like what has happened at Shawnee Mission Park.  No one wants that.  Vote yes Mrs Gooch.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: HerrSonntag on October 26, 2016, 07:59:12 AM
actual text:

Quote
§21. Right of public to hunt, fish and trap wildlife. The people have the right to hunt, fish and trap, including by the use of traditional methods, subject to reasonable laws and regulations that promote wildlife conservation and management and that preserve the future of hunting and fishing. Public hunting and fishing shall be a preferred means of managing and controlling wildlife. This section shall not be construed to modify any provision of law relating to trespass, property rights or water resources

Doesn't seem subversive or open to abuse.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: puniraptor on October 26, 2016, 08:03:38 AM
My like my father before me and his father before him and so forth from time immemorial, my traditional hunting method is a pellet of polonium 210 injected by a hidden syringe at the tip of a normal in appearance only umbrella.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 26, 2016, 08:07:23 AM
My concern is whether this amendment can later be used to strike down gun regulations. (BTW, I'm all for gun ownership but there are some reasonable restrictions.) Like is someone later going to come in an say, "One of the 'traditional methods' I use to hunt is my fully automatic M-60, so therefore you can't ever put any restrictions on that gun."

Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 26, 2016, 08:15:47 AM
Hunting with a fully automatic is not legal nor has it ever been.  And even semi auto's are limited to 5 rounds, which is much more restrictive than the (for example) non-hunting Colorado magazine capacity restriction.

FWIW I would be more comfortable with sensible gun control laws if this amendment were on the books. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 26, 2016, 08:30:35 AM
It's not legal now, but after the amendment passes is anyone going to try to say the law about automatic weapons is unconstitutional?

(Automatic weapons is an extreme example. There are other gun restrictions that this same reasoning could apply to.)
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 26, 2016, 08:32:09 AM
Well I don't know how they could, especially considering the regulation on the automatic weapons is a federal regulation.  A state amendment isn't going to change that.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 26, 2016, 08:36:41 AM
Well I don't know how they could, especially considering the regulation on the automatic weapons is a federal regulation.  A state amendment isn't going to change that.

OK, well automatic weapons is a bad example then. I don't know enough gun laws to make a good example. Let's say that someone proposed a law that said you must be trained in gun safety to conceal carry (crazy, I know). But then that law would be unconstitutional because "This is the gun a traditionally hunt with and yes I traditionally conceal my weapon when I hunt."
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 26, 2016, 08:40:15 AM
I really think you're making leaps here. 

You do know that today you can carry, concealed or otherwise, with absolutely no training, right?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 26, 2016, 08:41:52 AM
I really think you're making leaps here. 

You do know that today you can carry, concealed or otherwise, with absolutely no training, right?

Yes, I know that is why I said "Let's say someone proposed a law..." It was an imaginary future where people in Kansas had gained some sanity.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 26, 2016, 08:46:13 AM
Maybe look at the other 17 states that have passed these amendments and see what unintended consequences have popped up?

It's really a pretty basic amendment in it's language.  People just want to go hunt and provide for their families.  NO NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES as I believe someone once so eloquently said.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Tobias on October 26, 2016, 09:12:05 AM
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 26, 2016, 09:21:48 AM
I really think you're making leaps here. 

You do know that today you can carry, concealed or otherwise, with absolutely no training, right?

Also, people can kill animals in Kansas right now.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 26, 2016, 09:27:31 AM
I really think you're making leaps here. 

You do know that today you can carry, concealed or otherwise, with absolutely no training, right?

Also, people can kill animals in Kansas right now.

Is this your pivot?  The amendment would make it a right to hunt/fish, not just legal. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Tobias on October 26, 2016, 09:30:18 AM
i think the framers of the kansas constitution knew what they were talking about
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 26, 2016, 09:38:36 AM
I'm not sure if God intended hunting/fishing to be a right. I'm sure he didn't intend trapping to be a right because it is pretty cruel.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 26, 2016, 09:39:35 AM
I'm voting yes on the hunting amendment.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 26, 2016, 09:44:11 AM
I'm not sure if God intended hunting/fishing to be a right. I'm sure he didn't intend trapping to be a right because it is pretty cruel.

God intended man to have dominion over the animals.

Trapping is the only way to keep some populations in check.  Even if it were outlawed for citizens it would still get done by contractors of the state, only on taxpayer's dime. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 26, 2016, 09:45:29 AM
Hi Mrs Gooch, do you eat meat of any sort?  Have any sort of dietary restrictions, self-imposed or other?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: XocolateThundarr on October 26, 2016, 09:53:15 AM
Hi Mrs Gooch, do you eat meat of any sort?  Have any sort of dietary restrictions, self-imposed or other?

Man I hope Katdaddy doesn't see this post.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: HerrSonntag on October 26, 2016, 09:57:54 AM
The clause even says "subject to reasonable laws"   

Not sure how people think this is open to abuse.  It sounds like theres a different narrative going on.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 26, 2016, 10:45:58 AM
I do not eat hunted meat.
One time my boss brought in some deer jerky :lick: but that deer was killed by a car.

The word "reasonable" is open to interpretation
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: HerrSonntag on October 26, 2016, 10:52:29 AM
Yeah, but its open to interpretation in broad sense, not a limiting sense.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 26, 2016, 11:02:45 AM
I asked if you ate meat because store bought meat is from animals that are treated pretty cruelly.  It seems hypocritical to be okay with that but against trapping for cruelty reasons.  Even trapped animals are treated more humanely than many farm animals.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: wetwillie on October 26, 2016, 11:08:41 AM
Just voted yes to the prop this morning I'm glad this thread was able to educate me
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: EMAWican on October 26, 2016, 11:14:02 AM
I asked if you ate meat because store bought meat is from animals that are treated pretty cruelly.  It seems hypocritical to be okay with that but against trapping for cruelty reasons.  Even trapped animals are treated more humanely than many farm animals.

I've never seen a cow or pig chew its leg off to get out of a snare.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 26, 2016, 11:20:13 AM
I don't think the right to eat meat is in the constitution and I did not say  it is a right.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 26, 2016, 11:27:09 AM
I asked if you ate meat because store bought meat is from animals that are treated pretty cruelly.  It seems hypocritical to be okay with that but against trapping for cruelty reasons.  Even trapped animals are treated more humanely than many farm animals.

I've never seen a cow or pig chew its leg off to get out of a snare.

Is this the hill you want to die on? 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Tobias on October 26, 2016, 11:30:23 AM
i don't think we get to play god and fool with what our founders set up for us
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 26, 2016, 11:31:22 AM
I don't think the right to eat meat is in the constitution and I did not say  it is a right.

Neither am I.  I'm saying you're a hypocrite. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on October 26, 2016, 11:34:00 AM
This is what kansas lawmakers think is important? This amendment makes no sense at all, vote no
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: EMAWican on October 26, 2016, 11:36:48 AM
I asked if you ate meat because store bought meat is from animals that are treated pretty cruelly.  It seems hypocritical to be okay with that but against trapping for cruelty reasons.  Even trapped animals are treated more humanely than many farm animals.

I've never seen a cow or pig chew its leg off to get out of a snare.

Is this the hill you want to die on?

I'm just trying to follow the discussion on how trapping for fur equates to food animals and animal treatment, and how that ties into the proposed constitutional right to hunt and fish.

The question that people should ask themselves before they vote is: Do I hunt or fish? Then vote accordingly.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: CNS on October 26, 2016, 11:37:49 AM
I definitely think that we can all agree that this is without a doubt the biggest issue facing KS these days.  Good thing the govt is proactive and doing something before it becomes a big deal.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on October 26, 2016, 11:39:20 AM
What other currently legal hobbies should be a right?

Skydiving?
LARPing?
Pick up basketball?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 26, 2016, 11:46:32 AM
What other currently legal hobbies should be a right?

Skydiving?
LARPing?
Pick up basketball?

Yes, this is what I am saying. Just because something should be allowed does not mean it should be a constitutional right.

Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: EMAWican on October 26, 2016, 11:47:10 AM
This is a stupid issue. I understand why this was brought up since it ties back into the "right to food." People have the right to produce food for themselves and hunting and fishing is a right to food.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 26, 2016, 11:47:17 AM
I asked if you ate meat because store bought meat is from animals that are treated pretty cruelly.  It seems hypocritical to be okay with that but against trapping for cruelty reasons.  Even trapped animals are treated more humanely than many farm animals.

I've never seen a cow or pig chew its leg off to get out of a snare.

Is this the hill you want to die on?

I'm just trying to follow the discussion on how trapping for fur equates to food animals and animal treatment, and how that ties into the proposed constitutional right to hunt and fish.

The question that people should ask themselves before they vote is: Do I hunt or fish? Then vote accordingly.

I have never seen a documented case of an animal actually chewing it's way out of a snare.  It's a myth.

Anyway, another question might be "do I somehow benefit by hunting or fishing?"  Or "does someone I care about enjoy hunting or fishing?"  Or "is hunting or fishing the most ethical and humane method of controlling wildlife populations?"  Or "do I want my state spending tax dollars to fight frivolous lawsuits brought before it by animal rights activists?" 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ChiCat on October 26, 2016, 12:04:24 PM
Hunting is already legal so why do we need a constitutional amendment?  Seems like frivolous big government
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Asteriskhead on October 26, 2016, 12:09:54 PM
this entire conversation seems frivolous.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 26, 2016, 12:11:03 PM
I don't think the right to eat meat is in the constitution and I did not say  it is a right.

Neither am I.  I'm saying you're a hypocrite.

How am I a hypocrite? I never said that traping should be illegal.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 26, 2016, 01:01:30 PM
Ok.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 26, 2016, 01:15:22 PM
What other currently legal hobbies should be a right?

Skydiving?
LARPing?
Pick up basketball?

Put those on the ballot, and I'll vote yes to all 3.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 26, 2016, 01:19:05 PM
I mean, my god, imagine saying SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED to your HOA when you are putting up your brand new basketball goal. We don't have enough rights, really.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 26, 2016, 01:22:17 PM
I'd like to add the right to have a chalk-free driveway.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 26, 2016, 01:24:04 PM
I'd like to add the right to have a chalk-free driveway.

Like if you catch kids writing on your driveway, you could sue their parents for the $0.25 worth of water it takes to rinse the chalk off?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 26, 2016, 01:32:46 PM
I'd like to add the right to have a chalk-free driveway.

Like if you catch kids writing on your driveway, you could sue their parents for the $0.25 worth of water it takes to rinse the chalk off?

Like it would not be illegal to run over someone who is sitting in my driveway writing on it with chalk.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 26, 2016, 01:34:41 PM
I don't think you would get much support for that one, Mrs. Gooch. Too many breeders out there.   :frown:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 26, 2016, 01:35:39 PM
If someone infringes on your right to life then you can shoot them. Same thing (if a chalk-free driveway was a right).
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: CNS on October 26, 2016, 01:37:18 PM
Big Chalk will throw a lot of money against that one.  No way it passes.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 26, 2016, 01:37:31 PM
If someone infringes on your right to life then you can shoot them. Same thing (if a chalk-free driveway was a right).

Well, yeah. I just don't think you would ever get your amendment passed. I think maybe if you made it something like "right to have a pet" and then chained a pitbull in your front yard where it could reach the driveway to just kill the kids writing on it, you'd have a better chance.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on October 26, 2016, 01:44:50 PM
I mean, my god, imagine saying SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED to your HOA when you are putting up your brand new basketball goal. We don't have enough rights, really.

HOA's are voluntary contracts
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on October 26, 2016, 01:48:18 PM
Why is God in this conversation all. Maybe we humans should learn to live in harmony with the other animals that inhabit this beautiful Earth instead of killing because populations are too high? How is a population too high? Will nature not correct this? Does man need to determine how many animals are allowed to live? eff all that mess. If a deer totals your car, tough crap. Mountain lion mauls your kid, tough crap. Nature running it's course.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on October 26, 2016, 01:49:43 PM
Why is God in this conversation all. Maybe we humans should learn to live in harmony with the other animals that inhabit this beautiful Earth instead of killing because populations are too high? How is a population too high? Will nature not correct this? Does man need to determine how many animals are allowed to live? eff all that mess. If a deer totals your car, tough crap. Mountain lion mauls your kid, tough crap. Nature running it's course.

Humans killing animals isn't nature running it's course?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 26, 2016, 01:51:00 PM
I mean, my god, imagine saying SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED to your HOA when you are putting up your brand new basketball goal. We don't have enough rights, really.

HOA's are voluntary contracts

SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 26, 2016, 01:51:06 PM
Yeah, humans are part of nature.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 26, 2016, 01:52:10 PM
I mean, my god, imagine saying SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED to your HOA when you are putting up your brand new basketball goal. We don't have enough rights, really.

HOA's are voluntary contracts

signed under duress
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 26, 2016, 01:53:50 PM
The problem is that populations get too big and the there is a drought or a bad winter storm and 90 percent can be wiped out by starvation or disease and many animals suffer.  Science supports their control. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: HerrSonntag on October 26, 2016, 02:23:45 PM
If someone infringes on your right to life then you can shoot them. Same thing (if a chalk-free driveway was a right).
You don't have the right to shoot people who infringe on your rights, not sure where this is coming from.

This whole conversation is getting very silly.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: XocolateThundarr on October 26, 2016, 03:15:21 PM
I, for one, would like to see an amendment that allows me to kill more than 2 turkeys in the Spring.  I mean, how are those two birds going to keep me in turkey until the fall season?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on October 26, 2016, 03:17:56 PM
should be right to take wildlife rather than hunt, fish and trap.  there's no logical reason to permit humans to kill raccoons but not to catch them and keep them as pets.  either we were given dominion or we weren't.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 26, 2016, 03:18:41 PM
I, for one, would like to see an amendment that allows me to kill more than 2 turkeys in the Spring.  I mean, how are those two birds going to keep me in turkey until the fall season?

Is there a way for me to transfer my two turkey allotment to you?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: XocolateThundarr on October 26, 2016, 03:29:01 PM
I, for one, would like to see an amendment that allows me to kill more than 2 turkeys in the Spring.  I mean, how are those two birds going to keep me in turkey until the fall season?


Is there a way for me to transfer my two turkey allotment to you?


 :excited:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: CNS on October 26, 2016, 03:29:29 PM
I, for one, would like to see an amendment that allows me to kill more than 2 turkeys in the Spring.  I mean, how are those two birds going to keep me in turkey until the fall season?

Yep, if there is one thing keeping the KS hunter down, it's the antiquated turkey tag limits.   :curse:

I mean, I see like a bagillion turkey daily.

Also, new conspiracy theory:  When I was first hunting like almost 30yrs ago, pheasant and quail were awesome but you never saw a turkey.  Now they are exactly opposite where we hunt.  WTF?  Is KS in the pocket of Big Turkey?  Are the Turks terrorizing the other birds?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 26, 2016, 03:45:23 PM
I, for one, would like to see an amendment that allows me to kill more than 2 turkeys in the Spring.  I mean, how are those two birds going to keep me in turkey until the fall season?

Yep, if there is one thing keeping the KS hunter down, it's the antiquated turkey tag limits.   :curse:

I mean, I see like a bagillion turkey daily.

Also, new conspiracy theory:  When I was first hunting like almost 30yrs ago, pheasant and quail were awesome but you never saw a turkey.  Now they are exactly opposite where we hunt.  WTF?  Is KS in the pocket of Big Turkey?  Are the Turks terrorizing the other birds?

Hi CNS,

Basically those trees that were little 30 years ago are now 30 years older and bigger and can support animals like turkeys and then varmints that prey on game bird eggs (like raccoons and possums and such).
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: puniraptor on October 26, 2016, 03:52:35 PM
Pheasants are illegal immigrants from China
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: HerrSonntag on October 26, 2016, 04:05:50 PM
Were trees smaller 30 years ago?  i mean, i can't speak for the arboreal state of KS before my birth, but i think they had trees back then too.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: CNS on October 26, 2016, 04:21:02 PM
Pheasants are illegal immigrants from China

Why do you think us Kansans are out there trying to kill them?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: CNS on October 26, 2016, 04:23:29 PM
Were trees smaller 30 years ago?  i mean, i can't speak for the arboreal state of KS before my birth, but i think they had trees back then too.

Well, yeah.  I mean, especially where we hunted quail.  I don't think the turkeys were just biding their time until a few more trees grew.   :dunno:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: XocolateThundarr on October 26, 2016, 04:36:20 PM
Unrelated to the current discussion......but I am totally stoked that we have a resurgence of quail in our area.  We also have eleventy-billion turkeys in our area too.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on October 26, 2016, 04:37:12 PM
turkeys were hunted/habit altered to near extinction in ks.  they were reintroduced in the 50s and have done really well.  the increase in woodland habitat that emo talks about definitely helped, but a lot of that woodland habitat had already succeeded by 30 years ago, the turkeys just hadn't completed their occupation of it yet.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: XocolateThundarr on October 26, 2016, 04:51:44 PM
turkeys were hunted/habit altered to near extinction in ks.  they were reintroduced in the 50s and have done really well.  the increase in woodland habitat that emo talks about definitely helped, but a lot of that woodland habitat had already succeeded by 30 years ago, the turkeys just hadn't completed their occupation of it yet.

#occupywoodlands
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Asteriskhead on October 26, 2016, 05:03:15 PM
Unrelated to the current discussion......but I am totally stoked that we have a resurgence of quail in our area.  We also have eleventy-billion turkeys in our area too.

Calling turkeys during the spring season used to be my favorite part of the hunting I did, other than the time spent with my grandpa, dad, and best friend growing up. I don't like getting out of bed that early for anything though.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on October 27, 2016, 04:25:20 AM
Why is God in this conversation all. Maybe we humans should learn to live in harmony with the other animals that inhabit this beautiful Earth instead of killing because populations are too high? How is a population too high? Will nature not correct this? Does man need to determine how many animals are allowed to live? eff all that mess. If a deer totals your car, tough crap. Mountain lion mauls your kid, tough crap. Nature running it's course.

Humans killing animals isn't nature running it's course?
No.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on October 27, 2016, 07:45:44 AM
Why not?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: cDubya on October 27, 2016, 07:46:04 AM
Why is God in this conversation all. Maybe we humans should learn to live in harmony with the other animals that inhabit this beautiful Earth instead of killing because populations are too high? How is a population too high? Will nature not correct this? Does man need to determine how many animals are allowed to live? eff all that mess. If a deer totals your car, tough crap. Mountain lion mauls your kid, tough crap. Nature running it's course.

Humans killing animals isn't nature running it's course?
No.

Animals kill other animals to survive. And at one point we humans had to do the same thing. Some of us still do. Not to "survive" necessarily, but to supplement survival. I think its healthy if done in a humane and monitored fashion. My  :th_twocents:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: mhkpasa on October 27, 2016, 08:13:40 AM
Why is God in this conversation all. Maybe we humans should learn to live in harmony with the other animals that inhabit this beautiful Earth instead of killing because populations are too high? How is a population too high? Will nature not correct this? Does man need to determine how many animals are allowed to live? eff all that mess. If a deer totals your car, tough crap. Mountain lion mauls your kid, tough crap. Nature running it's course.

Humans killing animals isn't nature running it's course?
No.

Animals kill other animals to survive. And at one point we humans had to do the same thing. Some of us still do. Not to "survive" necessarily, but to supplement survival. I think its healthy if done in a humane and monitored fashion. My  :th_twocents:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 27, 2016, 08:18:42 AM
Were trees smaller 30 years ago?  i mean, i can't speak for the arboreal state of KS before my birth, but i think they had trees back then too.

Um yes a tree is much larger today than it was 30 years ago.  I can't believe this is even being questioned?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 27, 2016, 08:30:24 AM
turkeys were hunted/habit altered to near extinction in ks.  they were reintroduced in the 50s and have done really well.  the increase in woodland habitat that emo talks about definitely helped, but a lot of that woodland habitat had already succeeded by 30 years ago, the turkeys just hadn't completed their occupation of it yet.

sys, study after study links loss (change) of habitat as the #1 reason bobwhite quail numbers have declined so much since the 60's.  It just so happens this change (usually) also benefits turkeys.  I can tell you without a doubt the areas I ran around in as a little boy are much different today.  I recall seeing two turkeys in my life before 1997, and now if you drive this road in the winter time you might see 100 birds.  I'll see if I can dig up some old satellite imagery. 

(On another anecdotal note, about 7 years ago I went to a field trial for hunting dogs and the old timers were lamenting how they now have to release quail to run birds on, that just 10 years prior they were running exclusively on wild birds.  They noted how the hardwoods had matured and there was no edge cover for the quail anymore.)

Anyway, one larger point I wanted to make, you'll hear a lot of bird hunters saying turkeys eat quail eggs or quail chicks, and they have wiped out the quail and such, and that just isn't true.  It's the change in habitat, and not just smaller trees growing up to be big trees, but also farmers ripping out tree rows that once separated two fields to make one bigger easier to farm field.   

On a related note, I am impressively unbelievably bad at hunting turkeys.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: XocolateThundarr on October 27, 2016, 08:34:36 AM
turkeys were hunted/habit altered to near extinction in ks.  they were reintroduced in the 50s and have done really well.  the increase in woodland habitat that emo talks about definitely helped, but a lot of that woodland habitat had already succeeded by 30 years ago, the turkeys just hadn't completed their occupation of it yet.

sys, study after study links loss (change) of habitat as the #1 reason bobwhite quail numbers have declined so much since the 60's.  It just so happens this change (usually) also benefits turkeys.  I can tell you without a doubt the areas I ran around in as a little boy are much different today.  I recall seeing two turkeys in my life before 1997, and now if you drive this road in the winter time you might see 100 birds.  I'll see if I can dig up some old satellite imagery. 

(On another anecdotal note, about 7 years ago I went to a field trial for hunting dogs and the old timers were lamenting how they now have to release quail to run birds on, that just 10 years prior they were running exclusively on wild birds.  They noted how the hardwoods had matured and there was no edge cover for the quail anymore.)

Anyway, one larger point I wanted to make, you'll hear a lot of bird hunters saying turkeys eat quail eggs or quail chicks, and they have wiped out the quail and such, and that just isn't true.  It's the change in habitat, and not just smaller trees growing up to be big trees, but also farmers ripping out tree rows that once separated two fields to make one bigger easier to farm field.   

On a related note, I am impressively unbelievably bad at hunting turkeys.

That is why whenever I am cutting firewoood I always place the limbs I'm not going to burn into piles along the tree row.  They give those tasty little fellers a place to hide.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: CNS on October 27, 2016, 08:38:57 AM
I have had a MO guy tell me that they are blaming brome for being too thick vs natural grass.

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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 27, 2016, 08:47:00 AM
I have had a MO guy tell me that they are blaming brome for being too thick vs natural grass.

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In MO for sure brome and fescue.  Eastern KS too. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: HerrSonntag on October 27, 2016, 08:56:35 AM
Were trees smaller 30 years ago?  i mean, i can't speak for the arboreal state of KS before my birth, but i think they had trees back then too.

Um yes a tree is much larger today than it was 30 years ago.  I can't believe this is even being questioned?
But wouldn't there have been trees from 60 years ago back then that aren't around any longer?  What I'm saying is that I've never read anywhere that Kansas is materially more forested today than 30 years ago. If it is, that's news to me
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 27, 2016, 09:12:11 AM
Were trees smaller 30 years ago?  i mean, i can't speak for the arboreal state of KS before my birth, but i think they had trees back then too.

Um yes a tree is much larger today than it was 30 years ago.  I can't believe this is even being questioned?
But wouldn't there have been trees from 60 years ago back then that aren't around any longer?  What I'm saying is that I've never read anywhere that Kansas is materially more forested today than 30 years ago. If it is, that's news to me

I think trees live pretty long. 

I'm not saying it's an increase in acreage of wooded area, it's the maturation of the wooded areas.  A tree has to be so big for turkeys to roost in it.  Some areas used to not have trees big enough, and now they do.  I also don't doubt some of what sys said is true, but generally speaking upland birds can be prolific breeders.  Like I think they can breed faster than the habitat can change.  Huns for example were expanding their range 20+ miles per year from Canada into the US after they were introduced.  I would bet turkeys put into a vacuum would move even faster.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: CNS on October 27, 2016, 12:02:34 PM
http://www.kshb.com/news/national/arbys-testing-deer-meat-sandwiches-through-november?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=58116db204d30112e7a035b0&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook (http://www.kshb.com/news/national/arbys-testing-deer-meat-sandwiches-through-november?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=58116db204d30112e7a035b0&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook)

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Arby's is taking its "We have the meats" slogan seriously. The fast-food chain will add venison — aka deer meat — to its list of ingredients this month.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: kslim on October 27, 2016, 12:13:51 PM
This is what kansas lawmakers think is important? This amendment makes no sense at all, vote no
:Wha:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 27, 2016, 12:34:55 PM
http://www.kshb.com/news/national/arbys-testing-deer-meat-sandwiches-through-november?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=58116db204d30112e7a035b0&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook (http://www.kshb.com/news/national/arbys-testing-deer-meat-sandwiches-through-november?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=58116db204d30112e7a035b0&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook)

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Arby's is taking its "We have the meats" slogan seriously. The fast-food chain will add venison — aka deer meat — to its list of ingredients this month.

Not in Kansas. :frown:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on October 27, 2016, 12:40:33 PM
I guess I've just never understood hunting. I would love every aspect aside from the killing. Getting animals stuffed is something I don't get at all. Unless you killed it with hand to hand combat or it was attacking you and you put a cap in its dome with your handgun, gtfoomf.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on October 27, 2016, 12:50:57 PM
I don't want to quibble about what is natural and what is not. We have sadly gone from survival of the fittest to everyone getting to live. Too many weak humans are allowed to live by society that there is no longer a need for strong/manly man/self sufficient in the old sense. I am rambling. Basically I'd rather our human population was controlled before we worry about other animal populations.

There's just something wrong to me to have some humans as a collective living off the system and not having to contribute to survive and having another segment out there blasting animals away. It's a weird connection i have between these two and I'm not articulating it well.

Tl;dr: you didn't miss anything.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on October 27, 2016, 12:52:40 PM
I view all life as beautiful. Death is a part of that. I equate killing animals to control their population as killing humans to lessen our population. I'd like to have both or neither.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: _33 on October 27, 2016, 01:02:59 PM
I view all life as beautiful. Death is a part of that. I equate killing animals to control their population as killing humans to lessen our population. I'd like to have both or neither.

I find your anti-hunting, pro-euthanasia stance fascinating.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on October 27, 2016, 01:57:46 PM
We, myself included, do far more harm than good to Earth and it's inhabitants. Earth will be fine long after we are gone, life will evolve.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: CNS on October 27, 2016, 02:20:56 PM
If we were still survival of the fittest'ing, we wouldn't have most cool ass things we have now. 

The creation of pretty much any technology after the horse drawn plow required time not spent trying to wrestle life from nature. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 27, 2016, 02:32:16 PM
If we were still survival of the fittest'ing, we wouldn't have most cool ass things we have now. 

The creation of pretty much any technology after the horse drawn plow required time not spent trying to wrestle life from nature.

Yeah, human evolution stopped a long time ago, and we've never been better off.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on October 27, 2016, 02:32:37 PM
You are right. Everything now is simpler yet more confused. I love&hate it.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: CNS on October 27, 2016, 02:34:27 PM
You are right. Everything now is simpler yet more confused. I love&hate it.

Well, you would be a grandpa by now and probably only a few years away from death without it, so I bet if you counted correctly, you would kinda hate very little of it, and the portion you do hate could be regained by simply going hunting and fishing or maybe taking a hike.   :dunno:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 27, 2016, 02:44:16 PM
what in the eff is being discussed here
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: CNS on October 27, 2016, 02:46:51 PM
Don't take your anger at not being good at driving an implement out on us, EMO.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on October 27, 2016, 03:16:29 PM
You are right. Everything now is simpler yet more confused. I love&hate it.

Well, you would be a grandpa by now and probably only a few years away from death without it, so I bet if you counted correctly, you would kinda hate very little of it, and the portion you do hate could be regained by simply going hunting and fishing or maybe taking a hike.   :dunno:
Yeah. I'd much rather be alive now as opposed to at an earlier time due to life expectancy alone. I do take a lot for granted. You are right. My happy place when I meditate has always been a cabin in the mountains with the woman I love. I'll be grateful and try to bitch less until I'm able to get there. Thanks, CNS.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on October 27, 2016, 03:16:47 PM
what in the eff is being discussed here
Processing.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: CNS on October 27, 2016, 03:17:50 PM
You are right. Everything now is simpler yet more confused. I love&hate it.

Well, you would be a grandpa by now and probably only a few years away from death without it, so I bet if you counted correctly, you would kinda hate very little of it, and the portion you do hate could be regained by simply going hunting and fishing or maybe taking a hike.   :dunno:
Yeah. I'd much rather be alive now as opposed to at an earlier time due to life expectancy alone. I do take a lot for granted. You are right. My happy place when I meditate has always been a cabin in the mountains with the woman I love. I'll be grateful and try to bitch less until I'm able to get there. Thanks, CNS.

Oh, don't stop bitching.  I am pretty sure Ford invented the car so that we had more time to complain.  For reals.  Complaint is the driver of innovation these days. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: schreds21 on October 28, 2016, 10:07:52 PM
Would you assholes take this crap to another thread?  This thread is about EMO not being able to kill a god damn elk.

(no offense, EMO.  I'll have my chance to not kill an elk in a couple of weeks)
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: CNS on October 29, 2016, 08:51:54 AM
High school bro of mine, and a few of his south east ks bros just took their horses out to the public RMNF area for a week.  2 out of 4 tags filled, reinforcing my own anecdotal evidence that elk tags have a 50% success rate!.

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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: CNS on October 29, 2016, 08:52:13 AM
They also got like 300 amazing post cardesque pics!

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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on October 29, 2016, 12:54:12 PM
Horses? Pussifacation of America smdh
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: renocat on October 29, 2016, 11:10:24 PM
Give deer hunters machine guns.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 31, 2016, 06:09:45 AM
Guys, the last hour of the last day, I finally got my elk.  It was my 8th day hunting Riley and it was 7 before I even saw an elk.  It's now 6am, I have the flu, and didn't sleep last night because damn elk are huge and taking her apart was a tough task for me.  I am tired, sore, but it's so worth it. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on October 31, 2016, 06:26:09 AM
Congratulations!  :excited: :Woot: :emawkid: :billdance: :ksu: :D :Woohoo:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: CNS on October 31, 2016, 07:49:18 AM
Nice

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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: schreds21 on October 31, 2016, 08:01:21 AM
Congrats, Emo!
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on October 31, 2016, 08:05:42 AM
rip elk
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 31, 2016, 08:33:04 AM
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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on October 31, 2016, 10:46:09 AM
Did you seriously kill a headless elk on Hallow's Eve?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Katpappy on October 31, 2016, 11:13:08 AM
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Belly shot?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: schreds21 on October 31, 2016, 12:36:30 PM
Congrats again, Emo.  When you get to feeling better, we need deets.  Bow or Rifle?  If rifle, what kind and caliber?  What range?  Spot and stalk or stand hunting?  Give us the goods!
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on October 31, 2016, 12:39:01 PM
Are you sure that's not just a regular old deer?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 31, 2016, 03:25:08 PM
I was basically sitting below a ridge line hunting the wooded draw below me.  I had seen 3 spikes travel up this draw in the morning.  It was kinda a Hail Mary.  There were deer on their feet earlier than normal, like 5pm.  I could hear animals walking in the woods below me but couldn't see them, didn't know if deer or elk.  Then all of a sudden a lone cow shows up in front of me, can't really remember the range, 200+ yards.  I went to rack a round and the damn rifle double fed.  I removed the mag and all my rounds fell out in the grass.  She knew something was up and I barked to stop her.  She stopped on the opposite ridge line and was skykined, not a safe shot so I let her walk.  I was feeling like a real idiot.  That was my chance and I blew it. 

But then a few minutes later further up the draw a cow and calf appeared.  I ranged them, 350 ish, and steadied my 270 Winchester on my tripod.  I knew the drop for 300 yards is 7 inches, so I held about a foot high and squeezed off a round.  She barely reacted, had I missed?  I quickly fired another, still no effect.  WtF!  I had dropped my rifle earlier in the day so I was concerned my scope was off.  I decided to watch her body language for a moment and calm myself down.  She seemed off, just standing there staring at nothing.  I guessed she was hit but didn't see any blood.  I fired again, this time she took a few steps forward dragging her rear leg so I knew she was hit.  At this point I was committed to keep shooting until she dropped or I was out of ammo.  I racked one more round, tried to really calm myself and held just high of the front shoulder. Breathe in breathe out relax squeeeeze BAM.  This time I could tell I hit her good.  She went down and thankfully was stopped from rolling down the hill by a small tree. 

There was another guy hunting the same ridge as me, he had a bull tag and watched the whole thing.  He told me I hit her good the first time, missed wide the second, hit her leg the third, and hit the vitals again shot 4.  She was damn tough, much respect.

We walked to her and snapped a could pics and tried to move her, no dice.  So I was committed to taking her apart right there.  He split and I got to work.

I took off two two quarters and still couldn't roll her, so went to get the truck.  I was able to string together a tow strap a check cord and two leashes to reach her.  Used the truck to pull her just a bit so I could roll over. 

Cut more and more.  It was slow going.  About midnight I wacked my knuckled with my knife and cut down to the bone.  I could like see in there and see my ligament.  Gross.  Finally got her all loaded and was on my way at 139AM. 

Due to some unusual circumstances and I wasn't feeling great so I hadn't eaten anything all day and I was beat.  Tried to sleep in the truck for a couple hours and got to my house at 6AM.  Still had work to do taking care of the meat.  By the time she was in coolers and I was done it was about 10 AM this morning. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: mhkpasa on October 31, 2016, 05:04:45 PM
 :surprised: Sounds like a rough night.
Also: what's the etiquette of taking a cow with calf in tow? LEHIQ
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on October 31, 2016, 05:15:44 PM
How's the finger bud?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: kim carnes on October 31, 2016, 07:56:45 PM
Mods please lock this disgusting/embarrassing thread. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Tobias on October 31, 2016, 08:10:56 PM
is that thing a cow
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: wetwillie on October 31, 2016, 08:16:19 PM
did you eat the heart yet?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 31, 2016, 08:36:03 PM
:surprised: Sounds like a rough night.
Also: what's the etiquette of taking a cow with calf in tow? LEHIQ

I was wondering that too.  I wouldn't have done that in a Rocky Mountain ecosystem with much tougher winters.  Even with deer I wouldn't, but deer are much more abundant and I didn't think I was going to get another chance.  I really need the meat to meet some of my dietary goals for the next year.  Anyway I'll research the odds of the calf surviving and report back. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 31, 2016, 08:37:07 PM
How's the finger bud?

Little sore, otherwise fine.  Lucky the bone was there to stop the blade from doing serious damage.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 31, 2016, 08:38:38 PM
did you eat the heart yet?

I did the gutless method so all that stuff stayed inside.  I think if it were colder and I help I would have been more ambitious and retrieved heart and liver and tongue.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Tobias on October 31, 2016, 08:40:23 PM
how are the underpants (yeti?)
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on October 31, 2016, 08:43:54 PM
I really need the meat to meet some of my dietary goals for the next year.

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me irl rn
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 31, 2016, 09:05:31 PM
how are the underpants (yeti?)

One reason I took so long with her was I sick again.  There was an iffy moment or two (both ends). 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: bucket on October 31, 2016, 09:07:17 PM
:surprised: Sounds like a rough night.
Also: what's the etiquette of taking a cow with calf in tow? LEHIQ

I was wondering that too.  I wouldn't have done that in a Rocky Mountain ecosystem with much tougher winters.  Even with deer I wouldn't, but deer are much more abundant and I didn't think I was going to get another chance.  I really need the meat to meet some of my dietary goals for the next year.  Anyway I'll research the odds of the calf surviving and report back.

Best of luck to you, Bambi  :cry:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on October 31, 2016, 09:09:28 PM
calf should be fine, or at least as fine as it would have been with the cow hanging around nagging it all winter.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: kim carnes on October 31, 2016, 10:34:55 PM
Mods please lock this disgusting/embarrassing thread.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 01, 2016, 08:49:30 AM
So I've done some research.  Even elk cavles that lose their mothers in August in Rocky Mountain ecosystems are expected to survive.  Of course this is nearly November, on the Great Plains, and we don't have lions or bears or wolves to contend with.  I could hear elk talking in the draw as I was working and bumped a few as I drove out.  Good chance the calf got linked up with some other animals that night.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 01, 2016, 08:52:36 AM
I think Fuji is probably harder than that trip, Emo.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: schreds21 on November 04, 2016, 01:12:07 AM
Great story, Emo.  That was definitely some perseverance.  What grain bullet were you shooting.  I'm guessing by your anticipated drop it was 130?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 04, 2016, 08:51:39 AM
It was the Hornady 140 grain boat tail spire point.  It shot the best out of my rifle so that's what I went with.  It killed my buck last year pretty clean, he only went 50 yards.  Killed a whitetail doe this October, big pass through, devastating, only went 100 yards or so.  I think elk are damn tough animals no doubt.  I'm sure there are better bullets out there but I'm trying to sell this rifle so I don't really want to shoot it much more.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: mhkpasa on November 04, 2016, 11:28:10 AM
It was the Hornady 140 grain boat tail spire point.  It shot the best out of my rifle so that's what I went with.  It killed my buck last year pretty clean, he only went 50 yards.  Killed a whitetail doe this October, big pass through, devastating, only went 100 yards or so.  I think elk are damn tough animals no doubt.  I'm sure there are better bullets out there but I'm trying to sell this rifle so I don't really want to shoot it much more.

Obviously rifles don't have odometers, so what's the thought here? Low ballistics IQ. Can you tell from inspecting the rifling? Heat stress? No idea.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 04, 2016, 12:45:14 PM
It was the Hornady 140 grain boat tail spire point.  It shot the best out of my rifle so that's what I went with.  It killed my buck last year pretty clean, he only went 50 yards.  Killed a whitetail doe this October, big pass through, devastating, only went 100 yards or so.  I think elk are damn tough animals no doubt.  I'm sure there are better bullets out there but I'm trying to sell this rifle so I don't really want to shoot it much more.

Obviously rifles don't have odometers, so what's the thought here? Low ballistics IQ. Can you tell from inspecting the rifling? Heat stress? No idea.

There's a psychological odometer for rifles.  If I tell you the rifle has only fired 20 bullets, and I cleaned it after each firing, you'd think it was in near pristine condition and that the barrel was on it's way to being broken in properly.  If I told you it had been fired 200 times and I hadn't cleaned it once you would think the barrel must be mumped.  Some people would buy rifle A in this scenario, even if rifle B was shooting tighter groups.  It's weird, people are weird about rifles. 

Anyway, if I'm going to sell it I have nothing to gain by firing it more.  It's costly, takes time, reduces value, and I can't benefit from anything I learn shooting it.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: HerrSonntag on November 04, 2016, 11:29:29 PM
I don't know which of you KSU cats are gong to the game tomorrow but i pulled some lbs of venison from my harvest last year out of the freezer and made some pretty kick ass chili.  Just me and Schwestersonntag tailgating all day if anyone wants a bowl!
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Tobias on November 05, 2016, 01:09:49 AM
just tilt the mini fridge on its back and pour?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Tobias on November 05, 2016, 01:10:36 AM
what kind of generator/fridge smoker do you have?  combo unit?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Tobias on November 05, 2016, 01:11:42 AM
you ever punk'n chunked frozen parcels of chili from one job site to the next?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 05, 2016, 10:44:50 AM
You shot a calf bud.  I could pick that up with 1 arm
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: kim carnes on November 05, 2016, 11:03:00 AM
Mods please lock this disgusting/embarrassing thread.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: HerrSonntag on November 09, 2016, 04:30:31 PM
Constitutional amendment on hunting passed last night, guys!  Aren't elections great?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on November 09, 2016, 05:23:50 PM
Constitutional amendment on hunting passed last night, guys!  Aren't elections great?

Great. You can have the constitutional right to hunt but my friends can't have the constitutional right to be treated like human beings.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on November 09, 2016, 05:31:50 PM
Maybe they can be hunted?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: HerrSonntag on November 09, 2016, 05:35:52 PM
Constitutional amendment on hunting passed last night, guys!  Aren't elections great?

Great. You can have the constitutional right to hunt but my friends can't have the constitutional right to be treated like human beings.
I'm sorry to hear about your friends Mrs Gooch, let me know if there's way I can help.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Tobias on November 09, 2016, 05:40:36 PM
Maybe they can be hunted?

step 1: pray it away
step 2: prey it away
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 10, 2016, 10:10:29 AM
I am STILL not done processing this elk.  Early estimates (should have a total tonight) is I have 120 pounds of packaged/processed meat.  Amazing.  It took me about 3 hours to grind and vacuum seal 37 pounds of burger last night. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Skipper44 on November 10, 2016, 11:51:05 AM
Did you keep any shank or turn it all into burger?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on November 10, 2016, 11:54:45 AM
How bad does your garage stink rn? (assuming processing happens in the garage)
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 10, 2016, 01:23:31 PM
Did you keep any shank or turn it all into burger?

All the front quarters went to burger.  I still have deer shank I never got around to doing. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 10, 2016, 01:38:48 PM
How bad does your garage stink rn? (assuming processing happens in the garage)

I process in my kitchen.  It's basically just taking big hunks of meat and turning it into a smaller more manageable hunk of meat, so like no different than trimming a steak or something before grilling.  No smell.  The first time I plopped a whole quarter onto the countertop my wife was all  :sdeek:/ :curse: but now she doesn't care.  Last night my son kept wanting to watch me cut and grind the "elk chicken"  (he thinks all meat is chicken or something). 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on November 10, 2016, 01:42:23 PM
You should probably correct him
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 10, 2016, 02:09:17 PM
I do.  But then he corrects me.  He is very sure of himself. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 10, 2016, 02:13:41 PM
He needs to have an uncle or somebody teach him to say SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED to you every time you try to correct him.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: BW on November 10, 2016, 09:33:16 PM
T-Minus 33 hours...(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161111/65a26ce8130f75245622d95d2508ea6a.jpg)
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 15, 2016, 09:41:18 AM
How did you bird hunters do this weekend?  My buddy with two dogs moved 8 coveys of quail before noon on Sunday.  That's pretty good!

I did some scouting for my deer tag and filmed this.

Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: mhkpasa on November 15, 2016, 12:08:04 PM
that's awesome. I came face to face with a buck when I was like 8, playing in creek timber. Scared the crap out of me.

Just had a friend the other morning have a dumb and/or blind doe walk up and let him touch her.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Spracne on November 15, 2016, 01:59:10 PM
You could see it in his eyes: He wanted to murder you.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 15, 2016, 02:26:43 PM
Had there not been a fence there I might have victimized my underwear no doubt.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: IPA4Me on November 15, 2016, 02:30:11 PM
Saw some dudes towing a trailer with an ATV and six deer field dressed today. Super jealous of their harvest.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: BW on November 15, 2016, 02:35:48 PM
How did you bird hunters do this weekend?  My buddy with two dogs moved 8 coveys of quail before noon on Sunday.  That's pretty good!

I did some scouting for my deer tag and filmed this.


We did alright, certainly better than the last 5 years. Were out in SWKS. Bird numbers definitely higher, but lots and lots of cover due to all the rain this summer. They were scattered.

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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 15, 2016, 02:37:06 PM
Do you mind me asking what part BW? 

We were around Hugoton. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: BW on November 15, 2016, 05:05:07 PM
Between Dodge and Garden.

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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: steve dave on November 15, 2016, 07:21:08 PM
Oh man, you're getting close to sd cow farm country!
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 15, 2016, 08:15:13 PM
sd I hunted around Ashland last year.  Had to drive to like Protection or something for lunch. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: kim carnes on November 15, 2016, 08:20:03 PM
Get out of here emo u loser
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 16, 2016, 08:53:26 AM
Made some elk chili last night.  Honestly I couldn't tell any difference from beef. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 16, 2016, 08:59:53 AM
Sounds awesome, Emo.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on November 16, 2016, 09:25:55 AM
Made some elk chili last night.  Honestly I couldn't tell any difference from beef.

Well, if there is no difference in taste, let me be the first to let you know you can buy beef at any local supermarket and "they" have even already done all the annoying parts and it's just ready to use. Pretty great time to be alive really
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SEK_EMAW on November 16, 2016, 09:26:49 AM
Hunted Wakeeney - Hill City area Sunday/Monday/Tuesday.  I would only call it fair.  Very warm and dry made hunting tough.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 16, 2016, 09:29:05 AM
Or just keep doing what you want, emo. Enjoy.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on November 16, 2016, 09:30:41 AM
You don't even have to cut your finger off or poop your pants or get the flu or take an unpaid week off work or anything, it's just right there at the grocery store. #neatdeal
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 16, 2016, 09:32:49 AM
Why do you care so much, lib? It's very weird.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: HerrSonntag on November 16, 2016, 10:02:27 AM
Its been sad watching lib^7's downward spiral, i think lashing out like this is all he has left.  T&Ps
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 16, 2016, 10:03:28 AM
 :frown:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Tobias on November 16, 2016, 10:04:25 AM
i'd def save the more expensive elk meat for something where it can shine
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 16, 2016, 10:23:56 AM
Made some elk chili last night.  Honestly I couldn't tell any difference from beef.

Well, if there is no difference in taste, let me be the first to let you know you can buy beef at any local supermarket and "they" have even already done all the annoying parts and it's just ready to use. Pretty great time to be alive really

The desire for the meat is much more than any difference in taste.  I figured you'd be insightful enough to know that.  Allow me to explain.

I really enjoy being able to actually provide for my own nourishment and for that of my family.  I don't see it as a challenge to get up and go to work every day and get paid this salary with which I can part with in trade for things like food which I convey to my family.  But, the elk is a true challenge.  It feels like I have really worked and sacrificed for it.  I like to give myself into these endeavors, suffer and toil, be rewarded, and then share with friends and provide for my family.  Emotionally it is very rewarding to me.  I am actually a very selfless person.  Maybe I find it difficult to show others how much I care about them?   I hope that they know that this thing I worked very hard for, I give to them out of my love for them and my devotion to them.  That's more than I can ever do by going to a grocery store and swiping my Chase Sapphire Preferred.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 16, 2016, 10:24:54 AM
Hunted Wakeeney - Hill City area Sunday/Monday/Tuesday.  I would only call it fair.  Very warm and dry made hunting tough.

Did you bump many deer up that way? 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 16, 2016, 10:31:25 AM
i'd def save the more expensive elk meat for something where it can shine

I'm open to suggestion.  I have like 50 pounds of burger that I'm going to need to figure out what to do with.  Could get boring eating chilli/spaghetti/burgers every week.  Oooo maybe like a meatloaf?  Elk pâté?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 16, 2016, 10:31:54 AM
Made some elk chili last night.  Honestly I couldn't tell any difference from beef.

Well, if there is no difference in taste, let me be the first to let you know you can buy beef at any local supermarket and "they" have even already done all the annoying parts and it's just ready to use. Pretty great time to be alive really

The desire for the meat is much more than any difference in taste.  I figured you'd be insightful enough to know that.  Allow me to explain.

I really enjoy being able to actually provide for my own nourishment and for that of my family.  I don't see it as a challenge to get up and go to work every day and get paid this salary with which I can part with in trade for things like food which I convey to my family.  But, the elk is a true challenge.  It feels like I have really worked and sacrificed for it.  I like to give myself into these endeavors, suffer and toil, be rewarded, and then share with friends and provide for my family.  Emotionally it is very rewarding to me.  I am actually a very selfless person.  Maybe I find it difficult to show others how much I care about them?   I hope that they know that this thing I worked very hard for, I give to them out of my love for them and my devotion to them.  That's more than I can ever do by going to a grocery store and swiping my Chase Sapphire Preferred.
We caught 15 trout 3 weeks ago and the look on Mrs. Wacky's families faces when I gave them a few fish was pure joy. Feels good. Also, there's an art to it. No stink bait at these places.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 16, 2016, 10:33:33 AM
Hellz ya wacks.   :thumbs: :thumbs:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on November 16, 2016, 10:46:03 AM
Made some elk chili last night.  Honestly I couldn't tell any difference from beef.

Well, if there is no difference in taste, let me be the first to let you know you can buy beef at any local supermarket and "they" have even already done all the annoying parts and it's just ready to use. Pretty great time to be alive really

The desire for the meat is much more than any difference in taste.  I figured you'd be insightful enough to know that.  Allow me to explain.

I really enjoy being able to actually provide for my own nourishment and for that of my family.  I don't see it as a challenge to get up and go to work every day and get paid this salary with which I can part with in trade for things like food which I convey to my family.  But, the elk is a true challenge.  It feels like I have really worked and sacrificed for it.  I like to give myself into these endeavors, suffer and toil, be rewarded, and then share with friends and provide for my family.  Emotionally it is very rewarding to me.  I am actually a very selfless person.  Maybe I find it difficult to show others how much I care about them?   I hope that they know that this thing I worked very hard for, I give to them out of my love for them and my devotion to them.  That's more than I can ever do by going to a grocery store and swiping my Chase Sapphire Preferred.

Usually you take a little razzing better than this. Enjoy your chili bud, and congrats on your conquest  :cheers:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 16, 2016, 10:47:15 AM
Made some elk chili last night.  Honestly I couldn't tell any difference from beef.

Well, if there is no difference in taste, let me be the first to let you know you can buy beef at any local supermarket and "they" have even already done all the annoying parts and it's just ready to use. Pretty great time to be alive really

The desire for the meat is much more than any difference in taste.  I figured you'd be insightful enough to know that.  Allow me to explain.

I really enjoy being able to actually provide for my own nourishment and for that of my family.  I don't see it as a challenge to get up and go to work every day and get paid this salary with which I can part with in trade for things like food which I convey to my family.  But, the elk is a true challenge.  It feels like I have really worked and sacrificed for it.  I like to give myself into these endeavors, suffer and toil, be rewarded, and then share with friends and provide for my family.  Emotionally it is very rewarding to me.  I am actually a very selfless person.  Maybe I find it difficult to show others how much I care about them?   I hope that they know that this thing I worked very hard for, I give to them out of my love for them and my devotion to them.  That's more than I can ever do by going to a grocery store and swiping my Chase Sapphire Preferred.

Usually you take a little razzing better than this. Enjoy your chili bud, and congrats on your conquest  :cheers:

Well now I need your help patching this here drywall. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on November 16, 2016, 10:48:56 AM
You've come to the right place
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Tobias on November 16, 2016, 10:50:50 AM
I'm open to suggestion.  I have like 50 pounds of burger that I'm going to need to figure out what to do with.  Could get boring eating chilli/spaghetti/burgers every week.  Oooo maybe like a meatloaf?  Elk pâté?

my dad is an emo and i usually just tell him to cook me burgers or meat loaf out of whatever creatures he kills (honestly, burgers probably my fave)
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Tobias on November 16, 2016, 10:51:44 AM
texas red (not the ground meat crap) is p good with random animals too
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Tobias on November 16, 2016, 10:52:48 AM
related: my dad gives me all sorts of mystery animal meat all the time and i just take it and throw it away because i don't want to break his heart
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on November 16, 2016, 10:56:31 AM
My dad is an Emo too and he never gives me anything. He never keeps any for himself either, hates the taste. He just gives it to all his Emo buddies.

There has been a whole duck or goose or something in the hobby farm freezer for like 3 years tho
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 16, 2016, 10:58:09 AM
You know what's tasty AF? Quail!!!
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Tobias on November 16, 2016, 10:58:23 AM
has your dad considered just taking up geocaching or pokemon go instead?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on November 16, 2016, 11:01:06 AM
killing wild ducks is lots of fun, unfortunately they taste like ass.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on November 16, 2016, 11:05:59 AM
has your dad considered just taking up geocaching or pokemon go instead?

I'm not even sure that he likes the killing part. I think he just likes being out in nature. I'm pretty confident 90% of his deer blind time is spent playing Nintendo ds
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 16, 2016, 11:12:16 AM
killing wild ducks is lots of fun, unfortunately they taste like ass.

Step 1) breast out, pair a chunk with jallapeno pepper slice, wrap in bacon
Step 2) get drunk as eff and grill
Step 3) pig out

The first part of step 2 really helps with the taste.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SEK_EMAW on November 16, 2016, 11:30:14 AM
Hunted Wakeeney - Hill City area Sunday/Monday/Tuesday.  I would only call it fair.  Very warm and dry made hunting tough.

Did you bump many deer up that way?

Did not see a bunch.  Did see a really nice muley south of Wakeeney.  He was with a doe and another smaller buck.  Had to stop on the highway as he walked across in front of us and DNGAF.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: meow meow on November 16, 2016, 04:10:57 PM
killing wild ducks is lots of fun, unfortunately they taste like ass.

Step 1) breast out, pair a chunk with jallapeno pepper slice, wrap in bacon
Step 2) get drunk as eff and grill
Step 3) pig out

The first part of step 2 really helps with the taste.

works great with dove also
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Tobias on November 16, 2016, 04:42:46 PM
also poop
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: schreds21 on November 16, 2016, 07:21:36 PM
Made some elk chili last night.  Honestly I couldn't tell any difference from beef.

Well, if there is no difference in taste, let me be the first to let you know you can buy beef at any local supermarket and "they" have even already done all the annoying parts and it's just ready to use. Pretty great time to be alive really

The desire for the meat is much more than any difference in taste.  I figured you'd be insightful enough to know that.  Allow me to explain.

I really enjoy being able to actually provide for my own nourishment and for that of my family.  I don't see it as a challenge to get up and go to work every day and get paid this salary with which I can part with in trade for things like food which I convey to my family.  But, the elk is a true challenge.  It feels like I have really worked and sacrificed for it.  I like to give myself into these endeavors, suffer and toil, be rewarded, and then share with friends and provide for my family.  Emotionally it is very rewarding to me.  I am actually a very selfless person.  Maybe I find it difficult to show others how much I care about them?   I hope that they know that this thing I worked very hard for, I give to them out of my love for them and my devotion to them.  That's more than I can ever do by going to a grocery store and swiping my Chase Sapphire Preferred.
We caught 15 trout 3 weeks ago and the look on Mrs. Wacky's families faces when I gave them a few fish was pure joy. Feels good. Also, there's an art to it. No stink bait at these places.

I'm still waiting on pics, Wacky!   :impatient:   :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 16, 2016, 07:29:38 PM
Sorry shreds. I don't know how to PAK head myself in these pics. Should have thought of that beforehand.  :curse:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: mocat on November 16, 2016, 07:41:05 PM
Work the elk meat into breakfast somehow
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on November 16, 2016, 07:52:04 PM
Chicken fried elk meat
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Tobias on November 16, 2016, 07:55:30 PM
elk sashimi
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Tobias on November 16, 2016, 07:56:27 PM
^ i have actually caught papabias doing this while "processing" :sdeek:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: mocat on November 16, 2016, 08:42:53 PM
Elk sausage and eggs rolled up in a tortilla with queso fresco
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: mocat on November 16, 2016, 08:43:34 PM
I was just jk'ing about the queso fresco, obviously
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: schreds21 on November 16, 2016, 09:03:57 PM
Sorry shreds. I don't know how to PAK head myself in these pics. Should have thought of that beforehand.  :curse:
If I can figure it out, anyone can (no PAK head, just blocked out).  Besides, everybody knows what you look like anyway.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 17, 2016, 08:39:07 AM
Ok. You've convinced me.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 17, 2016, 08:45:27 AM
Honestly Shreds, we didn't take very many pictures and none of them were even close.  :curse: My dad caught a monster and we don't even have a pic of it.  :frown: I think all the pics are on his phone. But here's one on Saturday. I caught 4 on Sunday and never took a pic.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 17, 2016, 08:47:41 AM
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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 17, 2016, 08:48:54 AM
Ya guys. Marriage has made me a lil pudgy.


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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 17, 2016, 08:54:16 AM
Good news wacky in 90 days you can be svelte as a puma.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: HerrSonntag on November 17, 2016, 08:58:49 AM
I was just jk'ing about the queso fresco, obviously
I will fight you
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 17, 2016, 09:00:07 AM
Good news wacky in 90 days you can be svelte as a puma.
:Woot: I've already lost 7 lbs since that pic.  :) We've been traveling/vacationing a lot since the wedding. I'm not even mad at myself.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: schreds21 on November 17, 2016, 10:28:38 PM
Fantastic Wacky!  Nice fish and it looks like you were really enjoying yourself.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 17, 2016, 10:32:09 PM
 :thumbs:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Kat Kid on November 17, 2016, 11:02:34 PM
Made some elk chili last night.  Honestly I couldn't tell any difference from beef.

Well, if there is no difference in taste, let me be the first to let you know you can buy beef at any local supermarket and "they" have even already done all the annoying parts and it's just ready to use. Pretty great time to be alive really

The desire for the meat is much more than any difference in taste.  I figured you'd be insightful enough to know that.  Allow me to explain.

I really enjoy being able to actually provide for my own nourishment and for that of my family.  I don't see it as a challenge to get up and go to work every day and get paid this salary with which I can part with in trade for things like food which I convey to my family.  But, the elk is a true challenge.  It feels like I have really worked and sacrificed for it.  I like to give myself into these endeavors, suffer and toil, be rewarded, and then share with friends and provide for my family.  Emotionally it is very rewarding to me.  I am actually a very selfless person.  Maybe I find it difficult to show others how much I care about them?   I hope that they know that this thing I worked very hard for, I give to them out of my love for them and my devotion to them.  That's more than I can ever do by going to a grocery store and swiping my Chase Sapphire Preferred.

Maybe your wife feels differently, but this seems like some real Gift of the Magi crap.  I think I could just as seriously type out a paragraph like that about K-State sports and my sons, but my wife would not accept any of it as actually helpful.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: slackcat on November 18, 2016, 05:06:21 AM
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Nice catch.  Where are you fishing, if you don't mind me asking.


Keeping with the spirit of the thread, going to do some killing with slack jr over thanksgiving.  Quail, rabbit
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Asteriskhead on November 18, 2016, 05:31:57 AM
I love you, KK.  :lol:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 18, 2016, 07:32:35 AM
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Nice catch.  Where are you fishing, if you don't mind me asking.


Keeping with the spirit of the thread, going to do some killing with slack jr over thanksgiving.  Quail, rabbit
[/quote]Roaring river near cassville. Missouri. Dad and I do it every year in the fall. It's always a blast. Enjoy your time with Jr. :D
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 18, 2016, 10:03:09 AM
Made some elk chili last night.  Honestly I couldn't tell any difference from beef.

Well, if there is no difference in taste, let me be the first to let you know you can buy beef at any local supermarket and "they" have even already done all the annoying parts and it's just ready to use. Pretty great time to be alive really

The desire for the meat is much more than any difference in taste.  I figured you'd be insightful enough to know that.  Allow me to explain.

I really enjoy being able to actually provide for my own nourishment and for that of my family.  I don't see it as a challenge to get up and go to work every day and get paid this salary with which I can part with in trade for things like food which I convey to my family.  But, the elk is a true challenge.  It feels like I have really worked and sacrificed for it.  I like to give myself into these endeavors, suffer and toil, be rewarded, and then share with friends and provide for my family.  Emotionally it is very rewarding to me.  I am actually a very selfless person.  Maybe I find it difficult to show others how much I care about them?   I hope that they know that this thing I worked very hard for, I give to them out of my love for them and my devotion to them.  That's more than I can ever do by going to a grocery store and swiping my Chase Sapphire Preferred.

Maybe your wife feels differently, but this seems like some real Gift of the Magi crap.  I think I could just as seriously type out a paragraph like that about K-State sports and my sons, but my wife would not accept any of it as actually helpful.

How is it Gift of the Magi?  The gift is completely useful, and superior to anything commercially available.  It came at a different cost, but the value is immeasurable since you can't exactly buy it. 

The more I think about it it's a completely irrelevant comparison. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on November 18, 2016, 10:19:35 AM
The cost was your time + thousands of dollars. I'm not sure that outweighs the $5/lb of a product that (allegedly) tastes the exact same.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 18, 2016, 10:31:42 AM
Sounds like it was a priceless experience. Good for you, emo.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: wetwillie on November 18, 2016, 10:35:42 AM
What's the difference between buying a side of beef that has been grass fed and not given antibiotics or hormones and that elk?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on November 18, 2016, 10:38:26 AM
Also p sure you can buy elk meat cause if not then I have no idea why that guy I know has an elk farm
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: bubbles4ksu on November 18, 2016, 10:44:54 AM
pete recently had a relative kill an elk the size of a moose. i think he's refrained from posting pics of the behemoth out of respect for emo.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 18, 2016, 11:12:00 AM
Did you guys not read my earlier post?  Perhaps you didn't understand or relate to it? 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: wELLsculptedbrows on November 18, 2016, 11:31:47 AM
People are probably struggling because you were too subtle in describing your big league selflessness.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on November 18, 2016, 11:37:32 AM
Did you guys not read my earlier post?  Perhaps you didn't understand or relate to it?

The challenge and triumph part is all good and understandable. It gets a little murky when you try to say you spent thousands of dollars and days away from your family completing this challenge for them.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on November 18, 2016, 11:38:46 AM
yeah, that part was really stupid.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: wetwillie on November 18, 2016, 11:47:11 AM
I'm still hung up on the dietary goals
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 18, 2016, 12:08:51 PM
Did you guys not read my earlier post?  Perhaps you didn't understand or relate to it?

The challenge and triumph part is all good and understandable. It gets a little murky when you try to say you spent thousands of dollars and days away from your family completing this challenge for them.

The money is immaterial.  There is plenty of it and it would be spent anyway. 

As far as the time investment, it is necessary to have struggled.  It's inherent.  There is no plausible alternative. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: CNS on November 18, 2016, 12:16:11 PM
Happy medium time, guys:

Emo, buy a ranch, buy some elk, put some gps's on them, track them at a later date w/ your phone, blast one, be home by lunch with new elk!

I mean, a bow and rifle are both technology, why stop there?

I mean, if you are leasing land, doing scouting trips, etc on top of the actual hunting trips, the above would save you money in the long term and provide you with 100% success.  Win/Win.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on November 18, 2016, 12:29:38 PM
Did you guys not read my earlier post?  Perhaps you didn't understand or relate to it?

The challenge and triumph part is all good and understandable. It gets a little murky when you try to say you spent thousands of dollars and days away from your family completing this challenge for them.

The money is immaterial.  There is plenty of it and it would be spent anyway. 

As far as the time investment, it is necessary to have struggled.  It's inherent.  There is no plausible alternative.

Yeah, and I don't mean to indicate that you should have spent your money or time in a different manner or you did anything wrong. I don't believe your family was adversely effected in anyway.

You completed a personal goal, saying that it was out of selflessness for your family is what people (me) are struggling to understand clearly.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on November 18, 2016, 12:42:19 PM
As far as the time investment, it is necessary to have struggled.  It's inherent.  There is no plausible alternative.

when i shot an elk, here is how i did it:

1.  drive to mountains.
2.  walk around with my dog until we randomly intercepted some elk.
3.  shoot the nearest one.

carrying it out was hard though.


that's purely an aside, tho.  the wtf part of your elk stories is where you act like you're doing it for your family.  the rest is all good.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 18, 2016, 01:10:25 PM
No where have I ever said that I only do it for my family.  I might actually enjoy the hunt in and of itself ya know. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: bubbles4ksu on November 18, 2016, 01:16:05 PM
here's the thing, emo: pete's relative is an objectively superior hunter.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 18, 2016, 01:24:47 PM
I'm sure he/she is, assuming it wasn't a landowner voucher or private land or guided or an otherwise canned hunt or something.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 18, 2016, 01:26:07 PM
I saw the pick too. I don't think you're ever going to see a elk that size in these parts. It was a monster.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on November 18, 2016, 02:50:56 PM
I might actually enjoy the hunt in and of itself ya know.

yeah, that part makes sense.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 18, 2016, 03:05:27 PM
I might actually enjoy the hunt in and of itself ya know.

yeah, that part makes sense.

You don't think it makes sense that it makes me feel good to provide for my family in this way?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: CNS on November 18, 2016, 03:09:22 PM
Hiking is just as enjoyable as hunting, imo.  In fact, it is more so.  You get what you go for every time you go.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on November 18, 2016, 03:10:59 PM
it makes sense that it makes you feel better about selfishly (selfish does not connote bad in this sentence) pursuing your hobby if you somehow manage to convince yourself that your family benefits.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: bubbles4ksu on November 18, 2016, 03:18:40 PM
i believe your motive is pure, emo. and i think it's great. i just think you suck at hunting compared to pete's relatives.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 18, 2016, 03:18:59 PM
That's sort of a physchopathic way of looking at it though.  It disingenuously characterizes my motivations. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on November 18, 2016, 03:23:46 PM
i've giving you credit for not being stupid enough to really think your infant son gives a crap whether you shoot an elk or not.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 18, 2016, 03:26:32 PM
Hiking is just as enjoyable as hunting, imo.  In fact, it is more so.  You get what you go for every time you go.

I've thought a lot about this and I can assert that you are wrong.  When you're hiking you are only considering your own needs.  When you are hunting you are not only considering your own needs, but are also considering the needs of your quarry.  Sometimes you sacrifice your own needs in the hunt.  You are more aware of your surroundings, where you walk, how loudly you talk, the wind, the angle of the sun, the moon phase, everything.  You actually hear bird calls and squirrels bark and such because they can affect you, whereas a hiker might ignore them or not even notice them.  Also, you're up and active early and late (and sometimes at night), which is when animals are most active.  Hikers don't even get out of bed until the sun is up.  FWIW, these aren't uniquely my thoughts, I took a hippie friend on my first hunt to Colorado and he noticed these things.  I met a couple who spent an entire week in a wilderness area loaded with elk and they never saw a single one, couldn't even comment if they noticed any tracks or droppings.  They were oblivious hikers.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on November 18, 2016, 03:28:45 PM
That's the emo I know
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 18, 2016, 03:30:01 PM
i've giving you credit for not being stupid enough to really think your infant son gives a crap whether you shoot an elk or not.

I never said he cared one way or the other.  He likes the meat but he can't possibly appreciate it.  My wife even can't possibly fully appreciate it because she does not fully understand what went into it, but she does to the extent that she wants me to kill something every year. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 18, 2016, 03:33:15 PM
i believe your motive is pure, emo. and i think it's great. i just think you suck at hunting compared to pete's relatives.

Post the picture bubba.  PM if necessary.  I gotta get my eyes on this beast. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on November 18, 2016, 03:40:43 PM
it's not an exact analogy, but if your child did whatever small children can do to make money (steal from your wife's purse?  dunno) to make money to buy you a happy meal to help you with your dietary goals while you were out trying to kill an elk to feed him it'd be kinda gift of the magish.  at least, i can see where daris was going with that.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: wELLsculptedbrows on November 18, 2016, 04:05:46 PM
Doesn't really parallel Gift of the Magi, but the irony is that Emo thinks the meat is the gift, when in fact the gift is his absence. I mean, could you imagine living with this self-righteous turd?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 18, 2016, 04:07:21 PM
Emo seems pretty great. Not sure how you came to that conclusion.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 18, 2016, 04:10:33 PM
It's the talker/doer thing again. 

But, sometimes my wife asks if there's anything in season for me to go kill.   :buh-bye:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 18, 2016, 04:25:22 PM
I saw the elk that Pete's kin killed.  Wow.  If I get one like that ever I might have to move on to something else to get the shakes.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: wELLsculptedbrows on November 19, 2016, 10:13:26 AM
It's the talker/doer thing again. 

But, sometimes my wife asks if there's anything in season for me to go kill.   :buh-bye:

Hey numbskull, you get that no one is taking issue with your "doing," it's the bullshit you're "talking" that we're busting you on, right?


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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 19, 2016, 10:19:36 AM
So mad
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on November 19, 2016, 12:34:54 PM
Why don't you become a freelance nature photographer, Emo?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on November 19, 2016, 12:36:11 PM
Everything you do sounds like a lot of fun and I'd join you like crazy. I just wouldn't want there to be a kill. Can someone explain how the kill heightens the experience?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 19, 2016, 12:49:03 PM
SDK, our ancestors had to kill to provide, I'm sure it gives him a nice ride from where he came from. I don't care how well we have it these days, you exist because your ancestors did the same
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on November 19, 2016, 01:06:26 PM
I understand that. I exist becau se my ancestors did a lot things though. I'll need a bit more.

Side note: My happy place would be a cabin in rhe mountains where I had limited power and did have to hunt to supplement my dietary needs. I'm not opposed to hunting, I just can't see leaving civilization for a week to go kill something and then coming back. I bash it a lot, but I'm genuinely curious about what about the kill shot makes the whole experience more enjoyable.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 19, 2016, 02:45:50 PM
 :thumbs: Just know he takes care of the creature and wants to aknowledge his ancestors how we got here. He's not a murderer, he's just placing himself in time. It is a beautiful process for those that don't judge gaming.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on November 19, 2016, 02:48:59 PM
Everything you do sounds like a lot of fun and I'd join you like crazy. I just wouldn't want there to be a kill. Can someone explain how the kill heightens the experience?

emo already explained it pretty well a few posts back.  when hunting, you feel yourself to be a participant in nature, rather than an observer.  it's a different experience.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on November 19, 2016, 03:51:03 PM
Everything you do sounds like a lot of fun and I'd join you like crazy. I just wouldn't want there to be a kill. Can someone explain how the kill heightens the experience?

emo already explained it pretty well a few posts back.  when hunting, you feel yourself to be a participant in nature, rather than an observer.  it's a different experience.
Fair enough. I just didn't want to read through all the bullshit. Thank you.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 19, 2016, 03:53:25 PM
It's the talker/doer thing again. 

But, sometimes my wife asks if there's anything in season for me to go kill.   :buh-bye:

Hey numbskull, you get that no one is taking issue with your "doing," it's the bullshit you're "talking" that we're busting you on, right?


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People are reading in something that isn't there or saying I said something I haven't.  I'm willing to assume you guys aren't stupid (most of you at least) so I can only assume jealousy or something else I don't understand. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Chingon on November 19, 2016, 04:17:05 PM
I think you can safely assume they're jealous of your selflessness.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: chum1 on November 19, 2016, 04:30:19 PM
I mean, I couldn't justify killing things myself without engaging in bullshit. So, I assume this is true for others, too.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: chum1 on November 20, 2016, 08:42:24 AM
Another way to kill animals, provide food for your family, do things your ancestors did, and participate in nature: raise meat chickens.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: wetwillie on November 20, 2016, 08:58:26 AM
He already said he wanted to but his HOA male genitals blocked him
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: tdaver on November 20, 2016, 10:31:23 PM
Hiking is just as enjoyable as hunting, imo.  In fact, it is more so.  You get what you go for every time you go.

I've thought a lot about this and I can assert that you are wrong.  When you're hiking you are only considering your own needs.  When you are hunting you are not only considering your own needs, but are also considering the needs of your quarry.  Sometimes you sacrifice your own needs in the hunt.  You are more aware of your surroundings, where you walk, how loudly you talk, the wind, the angle of the sun, the moon phase, everything.  You actually hear bird calls and squirrels bark and such because they can affect you, whereas a hiker might ignore them or not even notice them.  Also, you're up and active early and late (and sometimes at night), which is when animals are most active.  Hikers don't even get out of bed until the sun is up. FWIW, these aren't uniquely my thoughts, I took a hippie friend on my first hunt to Colorado and he noticed these things.  I met a couple who spent an entire week in a wilderness area loaded with elk and they never saw a single one, couldn't even comment if they noticed any tracks or droppings.  They were oblivious hikers.

Maybe casual hikers, but more serious hikers and especially peakbaggers almost always start well before sunrise.  And I can guarantee you when it's dark and I'm on the trail alone, I'm very aware of my surroundings.  I will admit that on the way down I'm typically going for speed and missing things, but by then there are other people around ruining it anyway.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 21, 2016, 10:15:09 AM
Hiking is just as enjoyable as hunting, imo.  In fact, it is more so.  You get what you go for every time you go.

I've thought a lot about this and I can assert that you are wrong.  When you're hiking you are only considering your own needs.  When you are hunting you are not only considering your own needs, but are also considering the needs of your quarry.  Sometimes you sacrifice your own needs in the hunt.  You are more aware of your surroundings, where you walk, how loudly you talk, the wind, the angle of the sun, the moon phase, everything.  You actually hear bird calls and squirrels bark and such because they can affect you, whereas a hiker might ignore them or not even notice them.  Also, you're up and active early and late (and sometimes at night), which is when animals are most active.  Hikers don't even get out of bed until the sun is up. FWIW, these aren't uniquely my thoughts, I took a hippie friend on my first hunt to Colorado and he noticed these things.  I met a couple who spent an entire week in a wilderness area loaded with elk and they never saw a single one, couldn't even comment if they noticed any tracks or droppings.  They were oblivious hikers.

Maybe casual hikers, but more serious hikers and especially peakbaggers almost always start well before sunrise.  And I can guarantee you when it's dark and I'm on the trail alone, I'm very aware of my surroundings.  I will admit that on the way down I'm typically going for speed and missing things, but by then there are other people around ruining it anyway.

That's a good point, hikers stick to trails and are almost always around other hikers.  Hunters try to get at least a mile off trail and will trudge mile by mile through blowdown.  We set up camp in places to enable glassing, like bald ridges or saddles, usually away from water and subject to high winds and lightning. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: wELLsculptedbrows on November 21, 2016, 12:39:22 PM
It's the talker/doer thing again. 

But, sometimes my wife asks if there's anything in season for me to go kill.   :buh-bye:

Hey numbskull, you get that no one is taking issue with your "doing," it's the bullshit you're "talking" that we're busting you on, right?


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People are reading in something that isn't there or saying I said something I haven't.  I'm willing to assume you guys aren't stupid (most of you at least) so I can only assume jealousy or something else I don't understand.

The quiet reflection you so obviously practiced in the wilderness has perfectly attuned you to the universe and the nature of man.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: steve dave on November 21, 2016, 12:40:56 PM
that sounds good emo

secret part of post that I set a mod thing so emo can't read: wtf is the matter with this emo guy? seems like he's super into stuff that's a waste of time and sucks complete crap?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: slackcat on November 23, 2016, 05:52:57 AM
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Nice catch.  Where are you fishing, if you don't mind me asking.


Keeping with the spirit of the thread, going to do some killing with slack jr over thanksgiving.  Quail, rabbit
Roaring river near cassville. Missouri. Dad and I do it every year in the fall. It's always a blast. Enjoy your time with Jr. :D
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Thanks!   :D
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 28, 2016, 08:27:50 AM
On Friday I scooted out of the in-laws at 2AM to head to further western KS to try to find a mature mule deer.  I had found a nice deer two weeks ago on a hidden winter wheat field (can't see it from the road).  I decided to sit this field to see if he showed back up.  His does were there but he never showed.  Got this pic of this young whitetail just as the sun was setting.  Did 10 miles this day.

(https://scontent-ort2-1.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/15099620_576624255857334_8311513903972483072_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 28, 2016, 08:33:43 AM
On Friday I scooted out of the in-laws at 2AM to head to further western KS to try to find a mature mule deer.  I had found a nice deer two weeks ago on a hidden winter wheat field (can't see it from the road).  I decided to sit this field to see if he showed back up.  His does were there but he never showed.  Got this pic of this young whitetail just as the sun was setting.  Did 10 miles this day.

(https://scontent-ort2-1.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/15099620_576624255857334_8311513903972483072_n.jpg)

Basically just a hike.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 28, 2016, 08:37:49 AM
Well ya it's KS dude, and I was scouting not hunting. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Tobias on November 28, 2016, 09:00:16 AM
your hiking mess with any of the actual hunters?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 28, 2016, 09:13:43 AM
I only saw one other guy, some crazy fool who drove all the way from Shawnee to run one brittany and he wasn't even carrying a gun.  I told him where I stepped on a covey earlier and went on my way.  I don't see many spot and stalk bowhunters, not even during the rut. 

Oh I did see some coyote hunters and got the hell out of there pretty fast as they swept my position with their rifles as they were setting down. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: MakeItRain on November 28, 2016, 11:56:03 AM
Emo, you should invite me to your crib for some elk chili, I think we'd have a blast.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 29, 2016, 09:38:45 AM
I only saw one other guy, some crazy fool who drove all the way from Shawnee to run one brittany and he wasn't even carrying a gun.  I told him where I stepped on a covey earlier and went on my way.  I don't see many spot and stalk bowhunters, not even during the rut. 

Oh I did see some coyote hunters and got the hell out of there pretty fast as they swept my position with their rifles as they were setting down.

Why didn't you just join the army if you wanted to go on long early morning hikes and talk in military lingo?  You'd really be able to talk about selflessness then.  Like selfless trump card up your sleeve
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 29, 2016, 08:38:38 PM
I only saw one other guy, some crazy fool who drove all the way from Shawnee to run one brittany and he wasn't even carrying a gun.  I told him where I stepped on a covey earlier and went on my way.  I don't see many spot and stalk bowhunters, not even during the rut. 

Oh I did see some coyote hunters and got the hell out of there pretty fast as they swept my position with their rifles as they were setting down.

Why didn't you just join the army if you wanted to go on long early morning hikes and talk in military lingo?  You'd really be able to talk about selflessness then.  Like selfless trump card up your sleeve

I'm a lover not a fighter. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Tobias on December 01, 2016, 10:38:22 AM
there was a coyote in my mint garden this morning, wtf
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on December 01, 2016, 10:42:13 AM
What method did you use to kill it?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Tobias on December 01, 2016, 10:42:35 AM
shot up a flare for emo
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 01, 2016, 10:45:43 AM
shot up a flare for emo

selfless
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: MakeItRain on December 01, 2016, 02:05:45 PM
I only saw one other guy, some crazy fool who drove all the way from Shawnee to run one brittany and he wasn't even carrying a gun.  I told him where I stepped on a covey earlier and went on my way.  I don't see many spot and stalk bowhunters, not even during the rut. 

Oh I did see some coyote hunters and got the hell out of there pretty fast as they swept my position with their rifles as they were setting down.

Why didn't you just join the army if you wanted to go on long early morning hikes and talk in military lingo?  You'd really be able to talk about selflessness then.  Like selfless trump card up your sleeve

I'm a lover not a fighter.

Not hooking me up with some of that chili isn't very lover like, emo.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: mhkpasa on December 06, 2016, 11:05:40 AM

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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: _33 on December 06, 2016, 12:39:11 PM
I love to go out before dawn and take photographs and timelapses of the sunrise, stars, nature, etc.  I suppose my motivation for these endeavors is mostly selfish as I enjoy the time alone, and although I do return with a bounty of pretty pictures that my wife and kids enjoy looking at, it does not provide any sustenance. (unless you count emotional and spiritual sustenance, which you probably don't)
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on December 06, 2016, 01:01:33 PM
I love to go out before dawn and take photographs and timelapses of the sunrise, stars, nature, etc.  I suppose my motivation for these endeavors is mostly selfish as I enjoy the time alone, and although I do return with a bounty of pretty pictures that my wife and kids enjoy looking at, it does not provide any sustenance. (unless you count emotional and spiritual sustenance, which you probably don't)

after seeing how the young man was raised, i feel like i have a better understanding of why emo feels his child should be grateful to receive a pile of elk meat.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 06, 2016, 01:03:52 PM
not one of you is going to give Emo for the incredibly generous gift of meat he gives and how selfless it is.  It makes me ill
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on December 06, 2016, 04:46:15 PM
Tonight:  elk spaghetti.   :drool:  <-- that's baby emo right there when i tell him we're having elk chicken for dinner.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 19, 2016, 08:53:08 AM
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Tobias on December 19, 2016, 08:54:29 AM
he can come get the one that kicks it in my backyard.  have a big heated blind and everything
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on January 12, 2017, 06:21:59 PM
While reading the Puni thread about catching your own fish, I was curious what everyone's thoughts are on forced babarism? I have a tank of cichlids and used go feed them fish. I then felt bad about it and bought a giant goldfish (probably cruel of me as they are fish that live in different temps) as a way for penance. Anyway, 2 months later my Oscar had bitten him in half.

Just curious if those that are a fan of hunting, fishing, have a different view that on this matter.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on January 12, 2017, 06:54:25 PM
i don't understand the question.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: puniraptor on January 12, 2017, 06:59:10 PM
you felt bad about your fish murdering small fish so you bought your fish a big fish to murder and felt better?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on January 12, 2017, 07:02:03 PM
you felt bad about your fish murdering small fish so you bought your fish a big fish to murder and felt better?
No. I didn't think he'd murder the larger fish. So I wanted a larger fish to live in the tank to make up for all the death
 Faulty logic.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on January 12, 2017, 07:03:32 PM
i don't understand the question.
I'd abhor hunting and took issue with my sending other animals to their death. Is there a correlation? Are there pro hunters that also find it gross that I did that. Anti hunters that see no issue with it.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on January 12, 2017, 07:05:28 PM
i'm still confused.  why were you feeding live fish to your oscar if you didn't want to?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on January 12, 2017, 07:06:43 PM
i'm still confused.  why were you feeding live fish to your oscar if you didn't want to?
I liked it at first. Like I thought he needed it in his life. Then I had a change of heart. Nevermind. I just had a random thought and am not explaining it well.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on January 12, 2017, 07:10:40 PM
I thought he needed it in his life. Then I had a change of heart.

ok, i think i get it now.  it's ok to feed him live fish or not feed him live fish, imo.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on January 12, 2017, 07:37:26 PM
I thought he needed it in his life. Then I had a change of heart.

ok, i think i get it now.  it's ok to feed him live fish or not feed him live fish, imo.
I think I was curious if there were people that differ in opinions on these two issues than i. Anti hunting anti sending animals to their death.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on January 12, 2017, 07:46:37 PM
well it'd be pretty bold of them to disagree now that i've already said it's ok.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 13, 2017, 12:48:25 PM
Sdk are you a vegetarian?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on January 13, 2017, 02:00:54 PM
Well if you feed him really old gold fish that are about to die of old age then it is ok.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on January 13, 2017, 02:46:35 PM
Sdk are you a vegetarian?
No. I would kill my yearly cow or pig willingly. I'm not opposed by that. I am only opposed to killing when not nececcesary. Killing two animals a year would be enough to feed your family. Hell growing up one pig almost lasted a year.

We didn't need to go sport hunting.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on January 13, 2017, 02:47:11 PM
Well if you feed him really old gold fish that are about to die of old age then it is ok.
Hahah ok. I'll get a separate tank. ;)
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on January 13, 2017, 02:49:39 PM
We wouldn't have as many cows or pigs without our involvement. So I have a different opinion.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 13, 2017, 06:51:03 PM
Who is killing when not necessary?  I mean for fucks sake I shot one small doe and a fat cow and there is no way they'll last beyond March Madness.  I haven't read of anyone on this blog killing more than that in a season so I'm sure who you are talking about. 

Is it more wrong to kill a thousand quail or one elk? 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on January 13, 2017, 06:58:05 PM
Who is killing when not necessary?  I mean for fucks sake I shot one small doe and a fat cow and there is no way they'll last beyond March Madness.  I haven't read of anyone on this blog killing more than that in a season so I'm sure who you are talking about. 

Is it more wrong to kill a thousand quail or one elk?
When is hunting necessary? Aside from living wild life
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 13, 2017, 07:00:03 PM
No one saying hunting is necessary.  Killing however is necessary.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 13, 2017, 07:00:29 PM
Hunting is necessary for other things tho, like for wildlife management.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 13, 2017, 07:03:24 PM
Anyway, one thing I wanted to mention, caged predators definitely get depressed being deprived of the pleasure of hunting.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: The Big Train on January 13, 2017, 07:05:32 PM
I have lots of elk hunting stories from when I lived close to the mountains, got my first one at 14
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on January 13, 2017, 07:08:28 PM
Hunting is necessary for other things tho, like for wildlife management.
Why is this necessary?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on January 13, 2017, 07:09:25 PM
Anyway, one thing I wanted to mention, caged predators definitely get depressed being deprived of the pleasure of hunting.
I plan to set him free in a river at some point. Will spend months adapting his tank to prepare him.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: puniraptor on January 13, 2017, 07:11:15 PM
Anyway, one thing I wanted to mention, caged predators definitely get depressed being deprived of the pleasure of hunting.
I plan to set him free in a river at some point. Will spend months adapting his tank to prepare him.
Do not do this!
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on January 13, 2017, 07:12:27 PM
Anyway, one thing I wanted to mention, caged predators definitely get depressed being deprived of the pleasure of hunting.
I plan to set him free in a river at some point. Will spend months adapting his tank to prepare him.
Do not do this!
Why not? Cichlids will rule. I'll get him a wife first. My pleeks too
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 13, 2017, 07:26:11 PM
Hunting is necessary for other things tho, like for wildlife management.
Why is this necessary?

Look it up smart guy.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: schreds21 on January 13, 2017, 09:42:01 PM
I have lots of elk hunting stories from when I lived close to the mountains, got my first one at 14
Start sharing!
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on January 14, 2017, 12:48:24 AM
Hunting is necessary for other things tho, like for wildlife management.
Why is this necessary?

Look it up smart guy.
Oh I know the answer but disagree with the answer.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on January 14, 2017, 01:17:07 AM
Why not? Cichlids will rule. I'll get him a wife first. My pleeks too

he'll die when the water gets cold, if not earlier.  also, it's generally considered a poor idea because of the risk of transmitting diseases to native animals.  if it was an animal that could survive in the area you let it go, it would also be generally considered a poor idea because of the risk that it might outcompete native species.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on January 14, 2017, 01:48:00 AM
Why not? Cichlids will rule. I'll get him a wife first. My pleeks too

he'll die when the water gets cold, if not earlier.  also, it's generally considered a poor idea because of the risk of transmitting diseases to native animals.  if it was an animal that could survive in the area you let it go, it would also be generally considered a poor idea because of the risk that it might outcompete native species.
It'd be a science experiment. Perhaps a lake or pond would be a better idea? What about the plecostomus? It's in the catfish family at least.

Ideally I'd let him them go in a pond and see how that plays out.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on January 14, 2017, 02:53:10 AM
it's not really an experiment since you would have no means of measuring its survival.  also it is a question to which an answer is already known.


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The species is limited in its distribution by its intolerance of cooler water temperatures, the lower lethal limit for the species is 12.9 °C (55.22 °F)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscar_(fish)



Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 14, 2017, 06:16:04 AM
Smart guy doesn't agree with science sys.  Don't waste your breath. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Asteriskhead on January 14, 2017, 11:01:52 AM
It has been a long time since I've felt a desire to go hunt at all. Lately, I've been thinking about spring turkey season quite a bit. It was always my favorite season. I think I'll see if pmsDad wants to go together this year.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: _33 on January 14, 2017, 11:15:44 AM
So SdK is not ok with killing animals unnecessarily, but is planning a science experiment that will most assuredly lead to the death of his pet animal?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on January 14, 2017, 11:45:03 AM
it's not really an experiment since you would have no means of measuring its survival.  also it is a question to which an answer is already known.


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The species is limited in its distribution by its intolerance of cooler water temperatures, the lower lethal limit for the species is 12.9 °C (55.22 °F)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscar_(fish)
Fair enough. I won't do it.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on January 14, 2017, 11:45:33 AM
So SdK is not ok with killing animals unnecessarily, but is planning a science experiment that will most assuredly lead to the death of his pet animal?
What an idiot I am. Sys wins I lose.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Asteriskhead on January 14, 2017, 11:54:42 AM
So SdK is not ok with killing animals unnecessarily, but is planning a science experiment that will most assuredly lead to the death of his pet animal?
What an idiot I am. Sys wins I lose.

You don't win or lose. You win or you learn.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on January 14, 2017, 12:22:36 PM
So SdK is not ok with killing animals unnecessarily, but is planning a science experiment that will most assuredly lead to the death of his pet animal?
What an idiot I am. Sys wins I lose.

You don't win or lose. You win or you learn.
I'll stick with that. I like it better.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 15, 2017, 12:14:22 PM
It has been a long time since I've felt a desire to go hunt at all. Lately, I've been thinking about spring turkey season quite a bit. It was always my favorite season. I think I'll see if pmsDad wants to go together this year.

I too am itching for the gobblers.  Are you good at it?  I suck.  But I only hunt public so maybe that's the problem.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on January 15, 2017, 12:47:02 PM
i hate waiting for animals.  all those animals that people typically wait to come to them, i just walk around until i bump into one.  or at least i did when i was still hunting on the semireg.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 15, 2017, 02:43:52 PM
I like trying to find them and then even more trying to sneak up and kill one.  The stalk is the drug for me. 

I also like learning the biology and habits and using that knowledge to help me find them.

Sys why have you stopped hunting as much?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on January 15, 2017, 03:13:01 PM
Sys why have you stopped hunting as much?

laziness and living in the wrong part of the world.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Asteriskhead on January 15, 2017, 03:34:25 PM
It has been a long time since I've felt a desire to go hunt at all. Lately, I've been thinking about spring turkey season quite a bit. It was always my favorite season. I think I'll see if pmsDad wants to go together this year.

I too am itching for the gobblers.  Are you good at it?  I suck.  But I only hunt public so maybe that's the problem.
 

I greatly enjoy calling them in. The old family farm was a great habitat for them. It was quite easy.  They always roasted in one of the tree rows that separated the fields.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on January 15, 2017, 04:01:03 PM
If they are already roasted....isn't that just dining? Lol guffaw
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Asteriskhead on January 15, 2017, 04:41:13 PM
Roosted*
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on January 15, 2017, 04:43:41 PM
:cheers:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 15, 2017, 10:33:44 PM
Boom roosted.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on January 15, 2017, 10:43:42 PM
Hahahahaha perfect addition
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ednksu on February 19, 2017, 09:39:47 PM
I hadn't heard about this issue with the Remington model 700s.  I always assumed them to be a standard, reliable, bolt action.  Pretty crazy to see how Remington has hid the dangers of these weapons.  If you have one make sure it's repaired.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/popular-remington-700-rifle-linked-to-potentially-deadly-defects/
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on February 19, 2017, 09:51:06 PM
Prey is a part of life
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on February 19, 2017, 09:51:18 PM
Strong prey on weak
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on March 29, 2017, 11:47:20 AM

Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 29, 2017, 02:46:33 PM
Got a link to the actual rule change?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: AbeFroman on March 29, 2017, 03:11:50 PM
Those snowflakes thought they were going to hibernate in their safe space, they were wrong!
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on March 29, 2017, 03:15:46 PM
https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2016/08/05/2016-18117/non-subsistence-take-of-wildlife-and-public-participation-and-closure-procedures-on-national


this is your dream, emo!  the boy children got this done, no way old man trump even knows bears are real animals.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 29, 2017, 09:21:34 PM
Why should we limit a very effective method of predator control?


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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 30, 2017, 09:07:22 AM
Let's give a govt agency responsibility over game management, hire scientists to make informed scientific decisions, and then limit the most effective way to carry out policy because of feelings.  Stupid.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on March 30, 2017, 09:13:28 AM
Let's give a govt agency responsibility over game management, hire scientists to make informed scientific decisions, and then limit the most effective way to carry out policy because of feelings.  Stupid.

I think you just described Trump’s climate change policy.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 30, 2017, 09:18:02 AM
Let's give a govt agency responsibility over game management, hire scientists to make informed scientific decisions, and then limit the most effective way to carry out policy because of feelings.  Stupid.

I think you just described Trump’s climate change policy.

Take it to the Scott Pruitt thread then. 

Are you trying to extrapolate some sort of support of all of a politicians ideas or something? 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: XocolateThundarr on March 30, 2017, 09:52:02 AM
I will be re-entering the deer hunting community this year.  Just need to get the new rifle sighted in. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Gooch on March 30, 2017, 09:52:50 AM
I will be re-entering the deer hunting community this year.  Just need to get the new rifle sighted in. 
:peek:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 30, 2017, 03:00:33 PM
Why should we limit a very effective method of predator control?


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Yeah, I agree. I also think you should be able to hunt with drones. Who really cares how you are killing the animals?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: wetwillie on March 30, 2017, 03:02:52 PM
Why should we limit a very effective method of predator control?


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Yeah, I agree. I also think you should be able to hunt with drones. Who really cares how you are killing the animals?

No negative consequences
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 30, 2017, 03:05:25 PM
In the future, I should be able to sit in front of the tv, fly my drone out into the woods, chase an elk to my front door, and then shoot it through the window. Hopefully that happens sooner than later.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on March 30, 2017, 03:43:07 PM
Let's give a govt agency responsibility over game management, hire scientists to make informed scientific decisions, and then limit the most effective way to carry out policy because of feelings.  Stupid.

I think you just described Trump’s climate change policy.

Take it to the Scott Pruitt thread then. 

Are you trying to extrapolate some sort of support of all of a politicians ideas or something?

I wasn’t trying to extrapolate or imply anything. Just an interesting parallel that came into my mind when I read your post.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: yoga-like_abana on March 30, 2017, 04:21:15 PM
In the future, I should be able to sit in front of the tv, fly my drone out into the woods, chase an elk to my front door, and then shoot it through the window. Hopefully that happens sooner than later.
wow.. that would be awesome!
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on March 30, 2017, 06:54:58 PM
And why can't we fish with dynamite like crocodile hunter 2
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 30, 2017, 08:57:56 PM
There is a strong precedent for traditional take methods.  That's why we can't hunt with drones.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Skipper44 on March 30, 2017, 10:00:19 PM
People are starting to find fish and fly bait to them with drones
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 31, 2017, 08:50:52 AM
Ya I'm not too up on fishing trends.  The hunting community got out ahead of drones and they're banned in many states already.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on March 31, 2017, 02:56:07 PM
My mom's pom apparently stumbled on a rabbits haven. Earlier this week she sent me a pic of a baby he killed. Today my sister sent me this. They were able to save him. Pomeranians are animals. Good grief.

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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on March 31, 2017, 02:56:25 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170331/ae88dec93a4dfec4022544c57c05bbb5.jpg)
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on March 31, 2017, 02:57:02 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170331/af0ce6c61e4721115b40162831a1f9b8.jpg)

This fucko
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on March 31, 2017, 03:01:51 PM
When I was in like 5th grade one of our dogs got out and I saw him chillin in the front yard like an hour later, so I go out to get him. I walk up and can see he's pulling at something with his mouth... Walk a little further and he has a rabbit gutted and is trying to pull the heart out of the body.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: steve dave on March 31, 2017, 03:11:23 PM
pomeranians are rough ridin' vicious. and not scared of skunks or smelling like skunk.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on March 31, 2017, 03:16:48 PM
I mean my sister took a baby rabbit away from a home with a pom and set it free in a yard with a pit.

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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on March 31, 2017, 03:18:08 PM
When I was in like 5th grade one of our dogs got out and I saw him chillin in the front yard like an hour later, so I go out to get him. I walk up and can see he's pulling at something with his mouth... Walk a little further and he has a rabbit gutted and is trying to pull the heart out of the body.
Growing up we had a tabby cat and she showed up with a full grown rabbit at our back door. I gave her all the love because that was a feat. This killing baby rabbits thing is ridic.

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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 31, 2017, 04:40:03 PM
pomeranians are rough ridin' vicious. and not scared of skunks or smelling like skunk.

also stupid looking
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on March 31, 2017, 05:00:57 PM
How dare you

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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on April 01, 2017, 09:18:42 AM
it's not really an experiment since you would have no means of measuring its survival.  also it is a question to which an answer is already known.


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The species is limited in its distribution by its intolerance of cooler water temperatures, the lower lethal limit for the species is 12.9 °C (55.22 °F)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscar_(fish)
Fair enough. I won't do it.

During the summer of 2004/5 I caught a Oscar Fish someone had let go in a subdivision pond...Lil ben ji was all like WTF, showed the picture to about 10 different people before someone finally identified it as an oscar fish. Caught him on a jig head and grub.

Looked just like this

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/76/84/40/7684402828294b759cd169f731802896.jpg)

Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: MakeItRain on April 01, 2017, 09:59:29 AM
it's not really an experiment since you would have no means of measuring its survival.  also it is a question to which an answer is already known.


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The species is limited in its distribution by its intolerance of cooler water temperatures, the lower lethal limit for the species is 12.9 °C (55.22 °F)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscar_(fish)
Fair enough. I won't do it.

During the summer of 2004/5 I caught a Oscar Fish someone had let go in a subdivision pond...Lil ben ji was all like WTF, showed the picture to about 10 different people before someone finally identified it as an oscar fish. Caught him on a jig head and grub.

Looked just like this

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/76/84/40/7684402828294b759cd169f731802896.jpg)

http://myfwc.com/wildlifehabitats/profiles/freshwater/nonnatives/oscar/
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on April 01, 2017, 10:06:16 AM
it's not really an experiment since you would have no means of measuring its survival.  also it is a question to which an answer is already known.


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The species is limited in its distribution by its intolerance of cooler water temperatures, the lower lethal limit for the species is 12.9 °C (55.22 °F)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscar_(fish)
Fair enough. I won't do it.

During the summer of 2004/5 I caught a Oscar Fish someone had let go in a subdivision pond...Lil ben ji was all like WTF, showed the picture to about 10 different people before someone finally identified it as an oscar fish. Caught him on a jig head and grub.

Looked just like this

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/76/84/40/7684402828294b759cd169f731802896.jpg)
Haha looks just like the Oscars I have owned

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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 02, 2017, 09:48:08 PM
Guys, turkey season starts tomorrow!
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on April 02, 2017, 09:58:29 PM
Happy hunting.

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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: XocolateThundarr on April 03, 2017, 08:23:42 AM
Guys, turkey season starts tomorrow!

 :excited:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 03, 2017, 12:27:35 PM
FYI all the WalMarts (gross) computers are down for selling licenses and tags.  Cabelas or other is your best bet.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on April 03, 2017, 12:43:00 PM
How does one hunt turkeys? Bow and arrow? Shotgun? Small caliber?

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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Tobias on April 03, 2017, 12:44:27 PM
antique drone my gpa left me when he passed
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 03, 2017, 12:47:32 PM
 Bow or shotgun or golden eagle if you can prove Mongolian descent.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on April 03, 2017, 01:02:02 PM
Nice. I was trying to reconcile the size of the a bird with a bullet hole.

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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SEK_EMAW on April 03, 2017, 01:06:08 PM
My son killed a nice bird Saturday morning.  Fun hunt...bird marched across the field from about 300 yards, gobbling and strutting the whole way.  Sprinted in the last 50 yards and put a beating on the strutter decoy.

(http://i.imgur.com/3TEQAP6.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 03, 2017, 01:16:26 PM
Looks like you took that bird to the wood pile oh man.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on April 03, 2017, 01:48:16 PM
Why is he trying to eff it?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Katpappy on April 03, 2017, 01:58:05 PM
Why is he trying to eff it?
EVEN KATDADDY WON'T TOUCH THAT!!!
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SEK_EMAW on April 03, 2017, 02:00:46 PM
Why is he trying to eff it?

eff off.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 03, 2017, 06:38:50 PM
Bow or shotgun or golden eagle if you can prove Mongolian descent.

Some of the laws in this country just make no sense at all.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 10, 2017, 09:26:05 AM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170410/9cd18fb2c3993078e4188e7b6086aef6.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170410/6582d07dffc1f7b346fb15974ba24a4d.jpg)
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SEK_EMAW on April 10, 2017, 10:49:20 AM
 :thumbs:

Let's hear some deets on this deal.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on April 10, 2017, 10:55:09 AM
Guys. I may have changed my mind a bit on hunting. I'm not just against hunting lions and tigers and bears etc.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 10, 2017, 05:40:07 PM
Basically my buddy is lucky as eff and we called in these jakes on WIHA and he got two with one arrow.  No blind, just hiding behind a tree.  Crazy lucky.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 10, 2017, 05:40:48 PM
Hunting lions/tigers/bears isn't for me but I still support it where it is absolutely essential for conservation.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on April 10, 2017, 07:17:31 PM
Hunting lions/tigers/bears isn't for me but I still support it where it is absolutely essential for conservation.
A lot of my disdain comes from living in Montana and seeing an airport full of mounted predators and people that think killing magnificent hunters is some super masculine feat. I have more respect for lions, jaguar, tigers, bears, killer whales, sharks, cheetahs, wolves, eagles, hawks, than I do for crappie, bass, deer, elk, turkeys, pheasant, etc.

I'm coming around to thinking id enjoy going on a hunt. Ideally it'd be cold as eff and I'd have to hunt to survive. Preferably in a group of 3 or 4 and itd be a 2 to 3 week expedition.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on April 10, 2017, 07:20:41 PM
I respect all animals. Some I just revere more.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 10, 2017, 08:26:15 PM
I get that.  It's an emotional thing.  We, myself included, tend to respect the grittier and more intelligent animals.  The more I learn about deer tho the more I find out how intelligent they can be.  I kinda have to be careful because what if I decide I don't want to kill them?  It's a good thing they are delicious. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: wetwillie on April 10, 2017, 08:39:10 PM
Smartest and most respectable animal = coyote
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on April 10, 2017, 08:43:11 PM
I get that.  It's an emotional thing.  We, myself included, tend to respect the grittier and more intelligent animals.  The more I learn about deer tho the more I find out how intelligent they can be.  I kinda have to be careful because what if I decide I don't want to kill them?  It's a good thing they are delicious.
Hahaha well we can't have that. Make sure to come up with two dumb things they do to every smart thing. Problem solved.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 10, 2017, 08:43:56 PM
Too ubiquitous to garner much respect tho.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SEK_EMAW on April 11, 2017, 08:12:02 AM
Basically my buddy is lucky as eff and we called in these jakes on WIHA and he got two with one arrow.  No blind, just hiding behind a tree.  Crazy lucky.

Two with one arrow is not something you see everyday.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on April 13, 2017, 03:52:54 PM
Just took a 2.5 hour hike and photo session out at Konza. Took  some photos of some turkeys out there. I'm assuming I was able to get within 50 feet because they are protected out here?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on April 13, 2017, 04:41:08 PM
they aren't very smart, sdk.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Chingon on April 13, 2017, 04:50:02 PM
Pretty selfish not to shoot one i must say.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on April 13, 2017, 05:24:38 PM
A few of the photos.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170413/4bb35d1cb72ffbc9d20b2b1eea5245b3.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170413/f144bbb50015d7baec80a88a51fb3f06.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170413/f1230d4ce62a6308564d198f1d5de4e1.jpg)
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on April 13, 2017, 05:25:37 PM
Haha well I know they aren't smart. But it was really easy to get close. I figured they'd scatter.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 13, 2017, 08:50:55 PM
This is infuriating.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on April 13, 2017, 09:38:53 PM
Hahahaha. I had fun flanking them and sneaking up. Good opportunity for a two turkey one arrow out there today.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 13, 2017, 09:47:52 PM
Well, ole Emo did pretty splendidly in the turkey woods today too, but I'm holding off on posting until I get all the pics.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on April 13, 2017, 10:10:05 PM
I came up upon 3 hens(?) when I first set out. On the return trip is when I came across the toms (would have been cool if i was wearing toms).

Can't wait to see the pics, Emo. Congrats!

SdK BIL has a bow. Maybe I'll try my hand at the hunting. I'll have to run up and slit throats to make death quick. I'll look through dad's footlockers the ka bar he brought back from desert storm.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 15, 2017, 09:01:18 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170416/39e0d8483d9e15978b111fe47465711a.jpg)

Public lands, archery, no blind.  21.1 pounds, 1" spurs, 10.5" beard and a bonus 6.5" beard.  Trophy turkey for sure. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 15, 2017, 09:02:12 PM
The pack out!

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170416/b51e661a243841f1c2d033ae2ac31ebb.jpg)
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: steve dave on April 15, 2017, 09:04:31 PM
sdk, assuming you were full body camo'd out to sneak up on those monsters?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: wetwillie on April 15, 2017, 09:05:50 PM
Nice bird.   That mask looks like it wouldn't breathe very well though.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 15, 2017, 09:08:24 PM
I got it at a public auction for a police dept that closed down.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: The Big Train on April 16, 2017, 12:06:45 AM
I thought your hair was more emo'y
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: puniraptor on April 16, 2017, 12:50:12 AM
who's taking the pictures  :runaway:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 16, 2017, 08:39:06 AM
I cut my hair.

DSLR on a tripod or my buddy on his phone.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Skipper44 on April 16, 2017, 10:04:21 AM
I can't think of anything worse than hiking a couple of miles in those galoshes
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on April 16, 2017, 10:17:45 AM
I bet they are actually very comfortable, Emo doesn't really buy cheap crap
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 16, 2017, 12:22:36 PM
They are awful.  But, necessary for creek crossings.  And they can make anyone look like coon ass for sure.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on April 16, 2017, 12:48:16 PM
sdk, assuming you were full body camo'd out to sneak up on those monsters?
No. Shorts and sneakers. I did take my backpack off. But no other stealth.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on April 16, 2017, 12:49:27 PM
Congrats, Emo!
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 16, 2017, 12:53:42 PM
sdk, assuming you were full body camo'd out to sneak up on those monsters?
No. Shorts and sneakers. I did take my backpack off. But no other stealth.

sd is not so subtly mocking the contrast between my hunting and your Yellowstone experience.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on April 16, 2017, 12:57:43 PM
They are awful.  But, necessary for creek crossings.  And they can make anyone look like coon ass for sure.

Why don't you buy comfortable ones?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on April 16, 2017, 01:04:33 PM
sdk, assuming you were full body camo'd out to sneak up on those monsters?
No. Shorts and sneakers. I did take my backpack off. But no other stealth.

sd is not so subtly mocking the contrast between my hunting and your Yellowstone experience.
Ballers ball. I'm good at stalking.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on April 16, 2017, 01:05:00 PM
sdk, assuming you were full body camo'd out to sneak up on those monsters?
No. Shorts and sneakers. I did take my backpack off. But no other stealth.

sd is not so subtly mocking the contrast between my hunting and your Yellowstone experience.
eff I misread
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 16, 2017, 06:52:33 PM
They are awful.  But, necessary for creek crossings.  And they can make anyone look like coon ass for sure.

Why don't you buy comfortable ones?

I'm not sure if they make comfortable ones.  The really expensive ones are like super scent locker type, maybe they are comfortable.  I wear them so infrequently I didn't care to splurge.  If I hunted deer out of a tree stand more I would buy nice ones. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 17, 2017, 12:00:12 PM
I saw a turkey standing right next to the highway this weekend when I was driving to my parents' house for Easter dinner. I pulled the car over onto the shoulder, sneaked up behind the turkey, and then pounced. I took that turkey down lickety split, then I twisted its head until it was facing the wrong direction. I threw the dead turkey into the tailgate of the truck and drove it over to mom's house. I thought she might want to cook it for dinner, but she already had ham made. Oh well.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on April 17, 2017, 12:14:04 PM
When I was growing up our house was in a very wooded area and we had crap loads of turkeys walking around at times. They would always fly across the street tho instead of walking on the asphalt. Always thought that was weird
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 17, 2017, 03:08:19 PM
Turkeys, like young kids, like to pretend the asphalt is lava and they have to jump from couch to couch for safety.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Brock Landers on April 17, 2017, 03:38:54 PM
Turkeys are big, slow, dumb animals and there's shitloads of them everywhere.  Probably the most pud thing to hunt.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 17, 2017, 07:28:34 PM
Tonight my son ate the Farmhouse special for dinner.  Deer steak with milk and cheerios.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on May 23, 2017, 09:03:21 AM
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/05/22/world/africa/elephant-theunis-botha.html (https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/05/22/world/africa/elephant-theunis-botha.html)

Good riddance.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 23, 2017, 10:39:20 AM
Why do you say that James?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on May 23, 2017, 10:49:09 AM
I believe we have discussed my disgust with hunting apex predators and what I consider majestic creatures.

I've come around on turkey, deer, quail, etc. I'll remain a catch and release fisherman, but meh to those that like to keep what they catch.

Hunting lions, jaguar, elephants, orca, whales, eagles, hawks, etc is something I'll never support.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 23, 2017, 10:51:16 AM
Do you support the extinction of those species?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on May 23, 2017, 11:01:01 AM
Which species?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 23, 2017, 11:03:54 AM
Any of the lions jaguars elephants list.

I guess now I'm curious, which species do you support the extinction of?  Why?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Tobias on May 23, 2017, 11:06:26 AM
i think we can all agree that elephants can eff off
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on May 23, 2017, 11:08:06 AM
I don't support the extinction of any species. I'm not following how my post brought about this question.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: mocat on May 23, 2017, 11:17:57 AM
Do you support the extinction of those species?

oh man i can't wait to hear this
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Tobias on May 23, 2017, 11:18:22 AM
i love when eems does this :drool:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on May 23, 2017, 11:19:38 AM
i love when eems does this :drool:
I know what he's setting me up for, I'm restraining from making that leap all on my own and instead am slow playing. I'll need time to construct my rebuttal. :D
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 23, 2017, 11:20:16 AM
Hunting is the only way to save big game. Just look at what it did for the American buffalo.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Tobias on May 23, 2017, 11:21:05 AM
wacky, please prepare the mortal kombat gif
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on May 23, 2017, 11:30:17 AM
I'm going with: if it wasn't for hunters, and their enhanced symbiosis with nature, all of Africa would be a strip mall with no habit for the majestics and then they'd be ded
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Tobias on May 23, 2017, 11:32:12 AM
don't overthink this one, lib
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on May 23, 2017, 11:36:28 AM
Enhanced symbiosis is going to be involved, Mark my words
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Tobias on May 23, 2017, 11:37:21 AM
well ya
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on May 23, 2017, 11:40:01 AM
Thanks for planting the decoys guys. Now I'll be able to sit back and snipe.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 23, 2017, 03:42:12 PM
I don't support the extinction of any species. I'm not following how my post brought about this question.

I know it may be counter intuitive, but legal hunting is conservation.  You should go and research what happened to the populations of animals you listed in countries after their legal hunting was outlawed.  Long story short, legal hunting creates an incentive for local people not to exterminate them, which they have and will do for a variety of reasons. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Tobias on May 23, 2017, 03:45:38 PM
now, @wackycat08 !
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 23, 2017, 03:47:21 PM
Re: the bison (only idiots call them buffalo), they were the motivation for the creating of the American conservation model, which is the best and most successful in the world.  We have brought a number of species back from the brink, and now successfully manage hunting seasons for them.  Our model is unparalleled, unprecedented, and undeniably successful.  Others replicate it to their benefit, or deny it to their demise, for it is not rooted in feelings but rather science. 

I'm not surprised you feel the way you do though, weren't you the one that wanted to liberate a non native species of fish into a local waterway, as an experiment? 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 23, 2017, 03:47:50 PM
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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Tobias on May 23, 2017, 03:48:11 PM
:emawkid:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 23, 2017, 03:49:35 PM
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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on May 23, 2017, 03:54:44 PM
What research will I read that will dissuade me from not wanting those animals killed? That's a pretty black and white issue.

The crux of the debate is you feel humans own the Earth and I think we belong to Earth.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 23, 2017, 03:58:38 PM
I believe it is our duty to take care of the Earth.  You believe it will take care of itself.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: mocat on May 23, 2017, 04:04:55 PM
i got a fever, and the only prescription is over-the-counter intuitive science!  :love:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 23, 2017, 04:06:31 PM
I believe it is our duty to take care of the Earth.  You believe it will take care of itself.
Yup!
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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on May 23, 2017, 04:07:18 PM
I believe it is our duty to take care of the Earth.  You believe it will take care of itself.
I'd be in favor of a most dangerous game style punishment for poachers. That's how I feel we can take care of the Earth. Legalizing hunting to prevent poaching is hilarious to me. Give the hunters that want a challenge a chance to hunt the poachers. Win win. I'm sure that would bring in a lot of coin.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: meow meow on May 23, 2017, 04:08:38 PM
i really doubt you find a lot of people that want to pay to hunt a human being
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on May 23, 2017, 04:12:01 PM
i really doubt you find a lot of people that want to pay to hunt a human being
I do not. I can see no greater hunting challenge. If I had the money to hunt poachers, id be all about that.

If you think scenarios like Hostel don't actually exist, you are mistaken.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on May 23, 2017, 04:12:50 PM
i really doubt you find a lot of people that want to pay to hunt a human being

There is nothing hunters want to kill more than the stuff they aren't allowed to kill, and humans are at the top of that list
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Tobias on May 23, 2017, 04:13:34 PM
it's pretty pud, just put an elephant in your garage and leave the door open
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on May 23, 2017, 04:13:41 PM
i really doubt you find a lot of people that want to pay to hunt a human being

There is nothing hunters want to kill more than the stuff they aren't allowed to kill, and humans are at the top of that list
Especially trophy hunters.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: meow meow on May 23, 2017, 04:15:31 PM
yes i know all of my trophy hunter friends would like nothing more than to mount a human head in their basement.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: mocat on May 23, 2017, 04:15:57 PM
it's pretty pud, just put an elephant in your garage and leave the door open

the elephant would run away tobias. you have to put it somewhere secure (the living room)
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 23, 2017, 04:16:33 PM
I believe it is our duty to take care of the Earth.  You believe it will take care of itself.
I'd be in favor of a most dangerous game style punishment for poachers. That's how I feel we can take care of the Earth. Legalizing hunting to prevent poaching is hilarious to me. Give the hunters that want a challenge a chance to hunt the poachers. Win win. I'm sure that would bring in a lot of coin.

You think a broke ass African country gives two shits about enforcement of anti-poaching laws?  You're mistaken.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 23, 2017, 04:17:08 PM
i really doubt you find a lot of people that want to pay to hunt a human being

There is nothing hunters want to kill more than the stuff they aren't allowed to kill, and humans are at the top of that list
Especially trophy hunters.

What do you think a trophy hunter is?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: mocat on May 23, 2017, 04:20:26 PM
You think a broke ass African country gives two shits about enforcement of anti-poaching laws?  You're mistaken.

you mean right now?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on May 23, 2017, 04:23:56 PM
I believe it is our duty to take care of the Earth.  You believe it will take care of itself.
I'd be in favor of a most dangerous game style punishment for poachers. That's how I feel we can take care of the Earth. Legalizing hunting to prevent poaching is hilarious to me. Give the hunters that want a challenge a chance to hunt the poachers. Win win. I'm sure that would bring in a lot of coin.

You think a broke ass African country gives two shits about enforcement of anti-poaching laws?  You're mistaken.
I don't think they give a crap at all. Just as this conversation doesn't mean anything either. Just two cat fans sharing views on the interweb.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on May 23, 2017, 04:29:15 PM
i really doubt you find a lot of people that want to pay to hunt a human being

There is nothing hunters want to kill more than the stuff they aren't allowed to kill, and humans are at the top of that list
Especially trophy hunters.

What do you think a trophy hunter is?
I may have used that term loosely as many things can be considered a trophy from a hunt.

I've assumed, perhaps incorrectly, that main reason for hunting a predator was to feel like a badass for mounting some part of it on your wall and taking pictures.

I haven't heard much about flying over to an exotic locale to hunt Rhinos, lions, bears, elephants, etc for sustenance.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: The Big Train on June 04, 2017, 02:40:16 PM
I killed a crap ton of clay pigeons today
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on June 11, 2017, 10:18:56 AM
Neato(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170611/ffa30206c8492607ec4c7c007a8b3eb4.jpg)
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 11, 2017, 10:33:29 AM
We need to get the animal sciency guys at KSU to come up with an even better dye that is KSU purp and then evey elephant and rhino will be all go Cats! 24/7
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on June 11, 2017, 10:54:29 AM
I could get behind that. Would be amazing.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on June 11, 2017, 02:23:40 PM
that actually is fake news.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 11, 2017, 03:22:11 PM
Lol
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on June 11, 2017, 03:50:24 PM
If only I had known it was fake.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 29, 2017, 01:36:41 PM
We've killed 6 mouse already in the house and I feel like we haven't even touched the surface of this problem yet. Freaking landlord wouldn't pay for an exterminator until we started blowing her phone up with pics of dead mouses (he'll be here saturday). We saw two run in our living room last night while watching a movie. Any pro tips to get these lil fuckers out?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 29, 2017, 01:38:31 PM
We need a wacky problems master thread.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: mhkpasa on June 29, 2017, 01:43:23 PM
Get a mean ass cat and rarely feed it
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 29, 2017, 01:44:06 PM
I know. I wanna borrow one.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: mocat on June 29, 2017, 01:45:57 PM
use mouse traps to catch and kill the mouses. you don't use an exterminator for mouses.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 29, 2017, 01:47:57 PM
use mouse traps to catch and kill the mouses. you don't use an exterminator for mouses.
These traps add up because we use super elite ones. They're like $6 for a 2 pack. That's $18 already out of my fun $ account.  :curse:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on June 29, 2017, 01:50:23 PM
We need a wacky problems master thread.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: mocat on June 29, 2017, 01:57:18 PM
use mouse traps to catch and kill the mouses. you don't use an exterminator for mouses.
These traps add up because we use super elite ones. They're like $6 for a 2 pack. That's $18 already out of my fun $ account.  :curse:

or just live with mice i guess
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Tobias on June 29, 2017, 02:00:17 PM
second mouse gets the chz
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: mocat on June 29, 2017, 02:01:07 PM
use PB not cheese, obvi
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on June 29, 2017, 02:03:29 PM
And have a hammer ready for when the trap doesn't kill it.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 29, 2017, 02:05:09 PM
I'm thinking about buying some of those sticky traps for underneath the sink where they seem to be having a party 24/7/365.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 29, 2017, 02:06:59 PM
I would just move. JFC, you don't own the place or anything. Let somebody else deal with that crap.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 29, 2017, 02:07:36 PM
Yeah, lease is up in August.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 29, 2017, 02:09:49 PM
When you move, make sure you seal your boxes tight. You don't want any hitchhikers.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: mocat on June 29, 2017, 02:10:16 PM
i fondly remember some nights watching a movie at mrs mocat's rental house years ago, and hearing a satisfying THWACK from the other side of the room. they stopped coming after a few of those.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Tobias on June 29, 2017, 02:24:46 PM
When you move, make sure you seal your boxes tight. You don't want any hitchhikers.

we call them "hop-ons" in my family
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on June 29, 2017, 02:27:04 PM
Stowaways in mine.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 29, 2017, 02:27:37 PM
So a buddy gave me an old window A/C unit I was thinking of using for a project.  Removed from his camper.  He rough ridin' Trojan horsed me!  Anyway, we had mice in my garage.  Got one.  Not sure if there are more.  When the trap fell it blew out his guts.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 29, 2017, 02:28:57 PM
They smell awful! I've been putting them in the trash in the backyard and when it gets super hot, it intensifies the smell.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on June 29, 2017, 02:37:21 PM
My dog kills them by catching them and then playing with them to death
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 29, 2017, 02:44:29 PM
WC you don't need expensive traps. These work great:

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81lRuU70vaL._SL1500_.jpg)

Also, put out poison in the basement and under the sink. You don't need an exterminator.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on June 29, 2017, 02:46:41 PM
Don't use poison with that "dog" in the house
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 29, 2017, 02:48:34 PM
There are poison things the dog can't get into
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on June 29, 2017, 02:51:15 PM
They can get secondary poisoning from eating a poison mouse
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on June 29, 2017, 02:52:51 PM
My dad uses the soundwave repellent things you plug in. His hobby farm cabin and barn are rodent free
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 29, 2017, 03:01:12 PM
I'm pro Victor anti poison.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 29, 2017, 03:02:43 PM
Interesting. Whatever we have is this thing that looks like a little home for them to come into and then SMACK!

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cf3, i'm afraid Mrs. wacky would faint if we used the one you just posted. With these you don't see the dead mouse and she likes it that way.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 29, 2017, 03:06:03 PM
WC it sounds like she's seeing live mice right now so I'd tell her get over it. You need like 30 traps set in the basement.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 29, 2017, 03:06:26 PM
 :thumbs:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: mocat on June 29, 2017, 03:06:30 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: The Big Train on June 29, 2017, 03:17:36 PM
I'm just gonna say it, I don't like mouses, I like mice better.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: meow meow on June 29, 2017, 04:23:54 PM
hold the eff on, can't believe no one has asked this, but why in the hell are mouse traps coming out of the fun $ account? 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: bucket on June 29, 2017, 04:27:45 PM
hold the eff on, can't believe no one has asked this, but why in the hell are mouse traps coming out of the fun $ account?

 :lol:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 29, 2017, 05:06:39 PM
I wouldn't spend anything. I'd just let the landlord pay the exterminator and move next month.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on June 29, 2017, 05:10:27 PM
hold the eff on, can't believe no one has asked this, but why in the hell are mouse traps coming out of the fun $ account?
Oh we saw. We should just start that Wacky problems thread
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Tobias on June 29, 2017, 05:11:38 PM
wacky's gonna get home tonight to find his father in law and billy the exterminator smdh'n him
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 29, 2017, 05:14:23 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: puniraptor on June 29, 2017, 05:33:10 PM
he is hunting mice for the thrill and semi-sexual satisfaction of being able to provide for his family as a man should. fun money.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: wetwillie on June 29, 2017, 05:37:52 PM
I recommend a baseball bat
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: bucket on June 29, 2017, 10:01:44 PM
I recommend a baseball bat
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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on July 07, 2017, 02:55:18 PM
I just watched a special about a mystery bear shot in the NWT (Banks Island). Mother was a polar, father grizzly.

The hunter killed it, skinned it, and took the skull. Leaving the rest behind. Has it mounted, etc.

What's the point? I can appreciate the stalking, camping, hiking aspect. I don't understand the need to kill for a trophy.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on July 07, 2017, 02:56:59 PM
Pretty awesome wild hybrid though.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: HerrSonntag on July 07, 2017, 03:25:06 PM
The point is to have a giant hybrid bear mounted in your basement that you can tell people you shot
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: SdK on July 08, 2017, 08:35:21 AM
He didn't know it when he shot it, thought it was a polar.

Is killing for killings sake that much fun? Am I missing out?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on June 16, 2019, 09:46:16 AM
I finally got around to completing my hunter education course and can now start killing animals legally in the state of KS. I'll probably go deer hunting at some point but I'm going to start with pheasant hunting and need all of the help I can get.

Background -

Between my Fathers and Aunts land (connected) we have around 960 acres of pasture/irrigated/dryland/crp land that I can hunt in northwest KS. I was looking at the the hunting atlas for KS and there is also a bajillion acres of walk in hunting land (mainly irrigated) just across the road from the farm. I will be going out there this fall with a couple of buddies who hunt but only 1 of them has ever been pheasant hunting before and that was like once.

I was banking on my good friend alexfromOP coming back in town and using his bird dogs but he cant make it anymore so I doubt we will have any dogs to work with.



I have been doing some basic research online

Questions -

1. What areas should we focus on first? The ditches/windbreaks by the house? The "creek" that runs through the pasture? The Irrigated or Dryland crop land? The fringes where everything meets?

2. Lets assume there are 4/5 of us with no good bird dog and talk strategy. Should we just slowly walk in a line about 20 ft apart until a bird flies up? I've read about having a "blocker" at the end of a field, is this effective?

3. What other tips do you have for a novice pheasant hunter?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: pissclams on June 16, 2019, 11:56:51 AM
no dogs, no dice
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Tobias on June 16, 2019, 12:12:30 PM
ah yes, Cuban B
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on June 16, 2019, 01:25:23 PM
I don't "get" the appeal.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on June 16, 2019, 01:29:30 PM
We need a wacky problems master thread.

Look at this amazing idea. I miss Emo
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: wetwillie on June 16, 2019, 01:37:44 PM
I’d suggest a European hunt at one of the many fine ranches out that way.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on June 16, 2019, 02:27:00 PM
Just reread the entire Emo-elk saga. Amazing bbs'n from everyone involved
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on June 16, 2019, 02:42:33 PM
even if your dogs don't give a crap about birds, just having a dog present can help induce the pheasants to fly.  otherwise you probably need to plan on using the terrain or position people to get them to stop running and start flying.

if there's lots of birds you can also just walk around aimlessly and at least a few of them will fly close enough for you to shoot them.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on June 16, 2019, 08:59:22 PM
even if your dogs don't give a crap about birds, just having a dog present can help induce the pheasants to fly.  otherwise you probably need to plan on using the terrain or position people to get them to stop running and start flying.

if there's lots of birds you can also just walk around aimlessly and at least a few of them will fly close enough for you to shoot them.

Sys, I've taken lady out with me when we shot guns 2 times. The first time she was out there when we were shooting 30.06 and she climbed in my trunk and curled up. Last year I took her out to western KS and was pew pewing with a .22, she curled up in a ball in the front passenger foot area of my dads trunk.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on June 16, 2019, 09:06:13 PM
So I just had fathers day dinner with my 2nd cousin whose dad used to live on the farm and now lives in town. She said her dad knows how to pheasant hunt and can teach me. She also said that she went with him a couple of times to hunt my farmstead about 10 years ago, the walk in hunters would push all the birds onto our land and they would just walk the ditch/tree line and pew pew 5-10 birds.  :excited:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: waks on June 17, 2019, 01:36:14 AM
I have never hunted but recently won a shotgun at a pew pew forever banquet. I've always liked eating the game people have killed and think I might enjoy killing a bird or two. How does someone with zero background in hunting get started? Like, seems like a lot of barriers to entry. Also, do people actually hunt on public land? Seems like a good way to get accidentally 187'd by another hunter.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Ksuminnesotacat on June 17, 2019, 06:40:22 AM
I have never hunted but recently won a shotgun at a pew pew forever banquet. I've always liked eating the game people have killed and think I might enjoy killing a bird or two. How does someone with zero background in hunting get started? Like, seems like a lot of barriers to entry. Also, do people actually hunt on public land? Seems like a good way to get accidentally 187'd by another hunter.  :dunno:

Look up your local Pheasants forever. They will help anyone get into the sport public lands can be good you just have to be able to travel farther than the hunters who only want to meander 1/4 mile from the truck.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: pissclams on June 17, 2019, 09:33:16 AM
here's how to pheasant hunt:  walk through a field. 
good luck guys, i've given you everything you need
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: TaqMan on June 17, 2019, 09:39:11 AM
here's how to pheasant hunt:  walk through a field. 
good luck guys, i've given you everything you need

This. Bird hunting is not complicated. You walk around, they fly up, you shoot. Take a crack at a few clay pigeons to see if you can even hit a moving target first.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on October 04, 2019, 03:34:36 PM
Went hunting today with one of my friends dads on a game preserve outside Eudora (Eckmans) where they plant farm raised pheasant/quail in the field for you.

Blasted 4 Pheasant and 1 quail, didnt miss a shot. My buddies dad had 2 dogs that did like 90% of the work, they run around, find the bird then you go kick around until it flies up...it was a BLAST and I can't wait to do some real pheasant hunting this fall.

Seriously considering adopting some dog from a shelter that looks like it came from a hunting breed just so I can take it with me and hope it performs as well as the dogs I was with today.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on October 04, 2019, 03:39:57 PM
My dad just sent his new puppy off to dog hunting school last week  :th_twocents:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Katpappy on October 04, 2019, 06:51:13 PM
What the holy hell has happened to your tag, my man!!!  :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on October 06, 2019, 01:15:20 AM
Seriously considering adopting some dog from a shelter that looks like it came from a hunting breed just so I can take it with me and hope it performs as well as the dogs I was with today.

my border collie always did fine on the birds.  your dog can figure it out.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on October 06, 2019, 11:24:08 AM
Seriously considering adopting some dog from a shelter that looks like it came from a hunting breed just so I can take it with me and hope it performs as well as the dogs I was with today.

my border collie always did fine on the birds.  your dog can figure it out.

Lady is extremely gun shy though, just holding a gun sends her cowering....I've taken her out in the field shooting a couple of time and she runs back to the car and curls up in a ball cowering.

Any tips on breaking her of this in the next month? Should I just walk around the house with a shotgun for the next month so she gets used to it?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on October 06, 2019, 11:59:14 AM
You should be always protecting your home, you never know when a liberal will decide it's your turn for a home invasion
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on October 06, 2019, 12:44:19 PM
You should be always protecting your home, you never know when a liberal will decide it's your turn for a home invasion

Good call
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Katpappy on October 06, 2019, 12:50:30 PM
Seriously considering adopting some dog from a shelter that looks like it came from a hunting breed just so I can take it with me and hope it performs as well as the dogs I was with today.

my border collie always did fine on the birds.  your dog can figure it out.

Lady is extremely gun shy though, just holding a gun sends her cowering....I've taken her out in the field shooting a couple of time and she runs back to the car and curls up in a ball cowering.

Any tips on breaking her of this in the next month? Should I just walk around the house with a shotgun for the next month so she gets used to it?

Put foam ear pugs on her when shooting.  This may help with the fear.  Also, get some chickens and shoot one of them at a bird hunting distance.  Make sure Lady has ear protection and is next to you when you shoot the chicken.  Then give her a treat and take her with you to get the chicken.  Make sure she gets to smell the bird and give it to her went you get back to the house.  This will give her a positive experience.  Be sure to repeat this ordeal for about a week or until she starts to enjoy it.  Dogs love rewards and will get use to the loudness of the gun knowing what comes from it.  Remember this process takes time; so have patience.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on October 06, 2019, 10:29:34 PM
Lady is extremely gun shy though.

oh, yeah, that will be tough.  katdaddy is right that you can probably turn it around and his method would probably work, but i dunno if it's worth the effort.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: bucket on October 07, 2019, 06:41:55 PM
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Ksuminnesotacat on October 07, 2019, 07:17:23 PM
Only if you have a thing for eating Brains, spinal columns and or spinal fluid soup with some fried bone marrow but if not then your ok.  :Lurk: also deadly to bovine ruminants not predatory meat eating entities. As insinuated in the twitter headline. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: bucket on October 07, 2019, 07:37:56 PM
sotacat, I'd recommend that you not eat diseased animals. However, the deer population appears to be safe in Minnesota so you shouldn't worry.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Ksuminnesotacat on October 07, 2019, 07:49:08 PM
sotacat, I'd recommend that you not eat diseased animals. However, the deer population appears to be safe in Minnesota so you shouldn't worry.

Thanks for the concern Buck I live in Kansas. Either you run from Sasquatch, or you run with Sasquatch. I choose the latter. Jerky especially venison jerky is good. I agree if I saw a droopy eared ruminant walking around like a good ge er on a late agiville cruise I would leave it contact the Kwdp and have it dispatched for coyote bait. Don’t let em scare ya though.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Spracne on October 07, 2019, 08:02:40 PM
Ur a droopy eared ruminant . . . Jk, sota
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Ksuminnesotacat on October 07, 2019, 08:07:50 PM
Ur a droopy eared ruminant . . . Jk, sota

Sometimes yes  :Woot:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Katpappy on October 07, 2019, 09:51:59 PM
Only if you have a thing for eating Brains, spinal columns and or spinal fluid soup with some fried bone marrow but if not then your ok.  :Lurk: also deadly to bovine ruminants not predatory meat eating entities. As insinuated in the twitter headline.

I knew someone with mad cow disease; and that's no BULL.  :bs:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Ksuminnesotacat on October 08, 2019, 06:18:55 AM
Only if you have a thing for eating Brains, spinal columns and or spinal fluid soup with some fried bone marrow but if not then your ok.  :Lurk: also deadly to bovine ruminants not predatory meat eating entities. As insinuated in the twitter headline.

I knew someone with mad cow disease; and that's no BULL.  :bs: yes and a horrible disease it is a different prion than the cwd variety
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on October 08, 2019, 12:52:40 PM
Pretty difficult decision on who to believe between Katdaddy and 'sotacat. I think we might need a little more debate before I make up my mind
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Katpappy on October 08, 2019, 08:31:12 PM
This should give you a hint.  :bs:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Ksuminnesotacat on October 08, 2019, 09:14:51 PM
I’m sorry for your friend Daddy

Humans can’t get mad cow disease, since it can only occur, by definition, in cattle. They can, however, develop a related infection—called variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (vCJD)—by eating contaminated meat. The most well-known outbreak of vCJD occurred in the United Kingdom in the 1980s and 1990s.

The cwd variety in deer has not been documented to be transferred via meat that’s why they advise to not be exposed to the spinal fluid, spinal column and or any brain and bone marrow. Not disagreeing with anyone here it’s not a joke but it’s not a valid reason to not enjoy the outdoors and partake in deer hunting if that’s your thing if not that s cool too!   :thumbs:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: meow meow on October 09, 2019, 08:35:48 AM
sounds like sotacat is in the pockets of big buck hunter
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on October 09, 2019, 08:44:44 AM
Round 1 - draw
Round 2 - kdiddy with the tko
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Ksuminnesotacat on October 09, 2019, 04:39:03 PM
sounds like sotacat is in the pockets of big buck hunter

No hope it scares the hell out of every other hunter out there! More access for me!  :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on October 14, 2019, 09:39:41 PM
1 week update on breaking lady of her gun shyness. Been holding the shotgun around the house and putting it next to her bed and food bowl to get her used to it, she's will eventually come get a treat out of my hand when I'm holding it.

Might of had a breakthru tonight. Usually when I'm going to take her for a walk I'll say "Do you want to go for a walk?" and she will go nuts and get excited. I did that tonight while holding the shotgun (in my house) and she still went nuts and ignored that I was holding it.

Will make sure I'm holding it every time I ask her to go for a walk from here on out.

T - 26 Days until we find out how well the training has worked.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Ksuminnesotacat on October 15, 2019, 05:39:39 AM
1 week update on breaking lady of her gun shyness. Been holding the shotgun around the house and putting it next to her bed and food bowl to get her used to it, she's will eventually come get a treat out of my hand when I'm holding it.

Might of had a breakthru tonight. Usually when I'm going to take her for a walk I'll say "Do you want to go for a walk?" and she will go nuts and get excited. I did that tonight while holding the shotgun (in my house) and she still went nuts and ignored that I was holding it.

Will make sure I'm holding it every time I ask her to go for a walk from here on out.

T - 26 Days until we find out how well the training has worked.

Lots of positive reinforcement BenJi if you have a pond you can also if she likes the water play fetch. While she is swimming fire the gun as well a lot of times they will not focus on that while swimming and doing what they love fetching!
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 8manpick on October 15, 2019, 07:52:33 AM
Going pheasant hunting in South Dakota this weekend!
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on October 15, 2019, 09:10:33 AM
Going pheasant hunting in South Dakota this weekend!

Best of luck, I hope you just slay some roosters. Boom Boom Pow
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on October 15, 2019, 09:12:41 AM
1 week update on breaking lady of her gun shyness. Been holding the shotgun around the house and putting it next to her bed and food bowl to get her used to it, she's will eventually come get a treat out of my hand when I'm holding it.

Might of had a breakthru tonight. Usually when I'm going to take her for a walk I'll say "Do you want to go for a walk?" and she will go nuts and get excited. I did that tonight while holding the shotgun (in my house) and she still went nuts and ignored that I was holding it.

Will make sure I'm holding it every time I ask her to go for a walk from here on out.

T - 26 Days until we find out how well the training has worked.

Lots of positive reinforcement BenJi if you have a pond you can also if she likes the water play fetch. While she is swimming fire the gun as well a lot of times they will not focus on that while swimming and doing what they love fetching!

I dont have an area around where I live that I can go take her and blast off some boom booms in a field. I was thinking about maybe taking her to a gun range and sitting outside with her for a bit to get her used to the sounds, will make sure I have plenty of treats for her.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on October 23, 2019, 03:32:57 PM
Going pheasant hunting in South Dakota this weekend!

How many pheasants did you blast in SD?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 8manpick on October 23, 2019, 05:10:10 PM
Going pheasant hunting in South Dakota this weekend!

How many pheasants did you blast in SD?
Not that many this year. Group total was 16 in 3 days I think. Bird count is way down this year and lots of water in the fields means all the crops are still out. Not great hunting conditions, but great fun was had!

This guy landed in a couple feet of water, and a very good dog helped bring him back
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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on November 17, 2019, 08:20:33 PM
Went pheasant hunting for the first time in NW Kansas this weekend. It was me and 2 other newbies and no trained dogs (only one worth a dam was a lab that goes duck hunting) but we had a blast even though we had no idea what we were doing.

Our only goal was to make sure we did not shoot each other and we accomplished that. We mainly hunted some CRP fields on my aunts land and found some pheasants. We had a rudimentary knowledge of how to push a field and flushed up a total of 7 hens and 6 roosters over the course of the weekend.

Of those 6 roosters only 3 of them were shot at and only 1 was hit (by me). We searched for the bird for around 20 minutes but could not find it so I'm guessing he took off running.

The weather was amazing and we all had a great time, just a peaceful feeling you get holding a gun walking through a field of shoulder high grass on a sunny 65 degree day.

Super Embarrasing Side Story: I had 3 other roosters in my sights and pulled the trigger but nothing happened because I had my safety on. Three. Different. Times. Safety first tho!
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on November 17, 2019, 08:29:03 PM
I know what you are all wondering....How did lady do?!?!

Well after spending the last month making her sleep next to a shotgun she finally got over her fear of seeing guns and actually did pretty well in the field until she got tired. She probably would of done better if she hadn't chased a jackrabbit a quarter of a mile through a freshly planted alfalfa field before we even got to the hunting grounds.

When we first started she did a great job of working ahead of me with the other dogs in the CRP field but could only last about 1.5 hours. After that decided it was easier if she let me break the trail and just followed behind me.

By the second half of the day she was beat and when I shot the pheasant we couldn't find she refused to help and ran back towards the truck. She followed about 100 yards behind us while we pushed the field but eventually I couldnt see her anymore. When we finished pushing the field I went back looking for her and found her walking in the pasture by the creek.

She looked like an old dog last night when she could barely get up because she was so sore from running all day. She was fine by the morning but refused to follow me into the CRP this morning when I tried to kick up a couple before I left. 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: wetwillie on November 17, 2019, 08:39:42 PM
Good times in the upland field. Sounds like you had a blast.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on November 17, 2019, 08:54:47 PM
When we first started she did a great job of working ahead of me with the other dogs in the CRP field but could only last about 1.5 hours. After that decided it was easier if she let me break the trail and just followed behind me.

even just walking with you, she'll help a lot in convincing the pheasants that it makes more sense to fly than run.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Church Creeper on November 17, 2019, 09:29:38 PM
Enjoy the bird hunting now. Kansas is about to be void of birds.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on November 17, 2019, 10:11:15 PM
Enjoy the bird hunting now. Kansas is about to be void of birds.

As someone who is currently looking into getting a bird dog I am curious why you would say this.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on November 18, 2019, 08:09:00 AM
When we first started she did a great job of working ahead of me with the other dogs in the CRP field but could only last about 1.5 hours. After that decided it was easier if she let me break the trail and just followed behind me.

even just walking with you, she'll help a lot in convincing the pheasants that it makes more sense to fly than run.

Sys, I appreciate all of your help. If you ever find yourself in NW Kansas with a shotgun in hand let me know and we can walk around fields and say things like "Whoa" and "Birds are here" and maybe get to shoot our gun if a rooster flies up.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Church Creeper on November 18, 2019, 10:55:55 AM
Enjoy the bird hunting now. Kansas is about to be void of birds.

As someone who is currently looking into getting a bird dog I am curious why you would say this.

I guess my wording was a little extreme. It probably depends on where you plan on hunting. I've just heard about declines in the south-central region due to changes in habitat (explosion of cotton instead of wheat, milo, corn, etc.) and higher numbers of predators. Feral cat ranching can possibly harm numbers too. No specific data, just the feeling of a lot of hunters I talk too who hunt Sedgwick, Sumner, Harper counties.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: XocolateThundarr on November 18, 2019, 02:37:36 PM
Enjoy the bird hunting now. Kansas is about to be void of birds.

As someone who is currently looking into getting a bird dog I am curious why you would say this.

I guess my wording was a little extreme. It probably depends on where you plan on hunting. I've just heard about declines in the south-central region due to changes in habitat (explosion of cotton instead of wheat, milo, corn, etc.) and higher numbers of predators. Feral cat ranching can possibly harm numbers too. No specific data, just the feeling of a lot of hunters I talk too who hunt Sedgwick, Sumner, Harper counties.

I've never seen the number of pheasants in south central KS comparable to what is in the Great Bend/Hays area (where I grew up). 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: meow meow on November 18, 2019, 02:50:54 PM
been a long time since i've been to south central kansas, didn't realize cotton was a big thing, when did that start happening and why?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Church Creeper on November 18, 2019, 03:10:52 PM
been a long time since i've been to south central kansas, didn't realize cotton was a big thing, when did that start happening and why?

Not exactly sure. Some others on here may know more since it's not my area. But I'm guessing profitability is better than grain, water demand, and there are a couple of cotton gins in the area.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Institutional Control on November 18, 2019, 03:21:18 PM
It's cheaper to grow cotton and it requires less water.  Down here in N. Texas, they will plant cotton in fields that are waiting to be developed so they keep their agricultural tax exemption.  Half the time, they don't even harvest it.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 18, 2019, 03:26:10 PM
Global warming and more cold-resistant varieties allow cotton to creep a little further north every year.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on November 18, 2019, 03:45:26 PM
sys, I appreciate all of your help. If you ever find yourself in NW Kansas with a shotgun in hand let me know and we can walk around fields and say things like "Whoa" and "Birds are here" and maybe get to shoot our gun if a rooster flies up.

i haven't killed a game animal in probably 10 years, i don't know if i still have it in me.  more likely to borrow a cat and take it for a spin on the gopher fields.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: slackcat on November 19, 2019, 04:10:05 AM
sys, I appreciate all of your help. If you ever find yourself in NW Kansas with a shotgun in hand let me know and we can walk around fields and say things like "Whoa" and "Birds are here" and maybe get to shoot our gun if a rooster flies up.

i haven't killed a game animal in probably 10 years, i don't know if i still have it in me.  more likely to borrow a cat and take it for a spin on the gopher fields.

lol
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on November 19, 2019, 08:21:55 AM
I've decided I'm going to get a bird dog next spring and will be doing some research on what I want this winter. Does anyone have any recommendations?

Right now I'm leaning towards a pointer but I can be swayed...Did a quick google search and emailed a couple kennels. Looks like I can get a 5-7 month German Short Haired Pointer that is gun broke for $800. A little bit more expensive than the $100 adoption fee for lady.....

Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Institutional Control on November 19, 2019, 08:43:18 AM
You should get a labrador so when you give up hunting you'll have a great chill best friend and not some hyper retriever running around knocking crap over.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: wetwillie on November 19, 2019, 08:59:08 AM
Pointing lab black jack kennels chanute ks
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on November 19, 2019, 09:03:20 AM
Pointing lab black jack kennels chanute ks
Yeah, I'm not paying $1400 for a dog. $800 is more than I was looking to spend.

You should get a labrador so when you give up hunting you'll have a great chill best friend and not some hyper retriever running around knocking crap over.

Thats why I'm waiting until the spring!
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: meow meow on November 19, 2019, 09:04:20 AM
get one of your hunting friends to get the dog, you already have one
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on November 19, 2019, 09:04:41 AM
I'm also keeping an eye on KC dog shelters too to see if a young pointer or lab pops up...paying $800 for a dog is my backup plan.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: meow meow on November 19, 2019, 09:08:09 AM
if you're gonna spend $800, just buy a steer and it will provide much more meat than a couple of birds
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Church Creeper on November 19, 2019, 09:58:17 AM
I had a Brittany that was a damn good hunting dog, and good dog in general.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on November 19, 2019, 11:08:52 AM
let lady pick the new dog.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: slackcat on November 20, 2019, 07:27:43 AM
Why not train lil lil?  What better to hunt birds than a cat.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on December 02, 2019, 09:32:38 AM
Finally found a map of CRP lands in KS that looks halfway accurate.

http://kars.ku.edu/maps/kansaslandcover/   Filter by "Kansas GAP Landcover" and it will show you CRP Lands.

You can cross reference it with the map of walk in public hunting access to see where they match up and where the birds might be hiding. 

http://ksdot.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=a6467b7c4f714053ab63003607674413

I'm going hunting this weekend and found a couple places within 20 minutes of the cat ranch that I plan to check out!
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Post by: ben ji on December 06, 2019, 08:23:16 AM
Recently found a pheasant hunting forum and spent all week reading old threads looking for pheasant hunting tips, mainly just old people bitching about farmers though.

https://www.ultimatepheasanthunting.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?31-Kansas

Heading out this afternoon with my tracking dog lady to see if we can kick up some birds by ourselves. Getting excited!  :excited: :Woohoo:
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on December 07, 2019, 07:15:11 PM
I did it guyz, Ive reached peak Manhood.

Spent all day walking around a field with a shotgun and killed a bird.

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Post by: ben ji on December 07, 2019, 07:16:39 PM
Then I cleaned it after watching a youtube video. This unlucky SOB is definitely a Corn Aggie fan. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191208/fe0f3d205e2ae135e148702b822ae906.jpg)
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Post by: ben ji on December 07, 2019, 07:17:41 PM
Look at that beautiful chicken type bird.

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Post by: ben ji on December 07, 2019, 07:19:08 PM
About to cook the heart/liver in sausage grease while I drink beer and watch CFB.

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Post by: DaBigTrain on December 07, 2019, 07:19:48 PM
:Carl:
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Post by: wetwillie on December 07, 2019, 08:03:47 PM
You going to salt brine that fine organic piece of meat overnight? Did lady flush it up?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on December 07, 2019, 09:19:44 PM
Lady was sitting in the backseat of my vehicle when I shot this bird. She will run a field or pasture with me but refuses to run in CRP after about 1 hr.

Bird is in the fridge for now, will google recipes/brines when I get it back home. Hoping to snag another tomorrow morning before I leave.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on December 07, 2019, 09:26:28 PM
Legit saw 20+ Hens and 10+ roosters today. I was by myself and most roosters flushed too far away to hit but it was still a "blast".

I almost had to step on a bird to flush it up and then 4-5 more in the same area would fly up. rough ridin' exhilarating and panic inducing at the same time.

Majority were in the 20 acre CRP field that borders a recently harvested corn field (was not harvested when I was out a month ago). When I hunted that field around 5pm I saw 2 seperate groups of pheasants on the edge of the corn/CRP heading in for the night.

Unfortunately I have no idea what I'm doing since this was my second time and they clearly saw me first.
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Post by: sys on December 07, 2019, 09:52:39 PM
feeling a little nostalgic now.
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Post by: Church Creeper on December 08, 2019, 08:14:06 PM
Congrats ben ji!! And glad to see some upright pics!
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Post by: waks on December 09, 2019, 04:02:12 AM
Went and shot clay today with a buddy that is a big waterfowl hunter. Was very fun.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on December 13, 2019, 08:12:23 PM
I gave up on Lady ever being a hunting dog so I paroled Shiloh from the local penitentiary.

7 month old pointer mutt, gonna make her the best bird dog west of the Missoura!

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Also I have no idea why the photos I upload through tapatalk are showing up sideways.
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Post by: ben ji on December 13, 2019, 08:16:11 PM
Alright guyz, give me your best bird dog training tips etc.

I'm not going to hunt her this year but plan on taking her out in a couple of weeks to pew pew some .22's about 20 yards away while she is eating or something to make sure she is not terrified of guns.

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Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on December 13, 2019, 08:21:51 PM
This is great news, she's adorable.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: schreds21 on December 13, 2019, 10:14:20 PM
Discipline discipline discipline.   Hunting is bred into them.  Discipline you must teach.  Simple commands such as sit, here, down are just repetitive stuff.  Establish dominance and reinforce discipline with stuff you do every day.  When you let it outside, make it sit until you say ok or whatever release command you want to use.  When you let it back inside, make it sit and dont let it come in until given a command.  When you feed it, make it sit and dont let it eat until given a release command.  These are things that are done every day and the easiest way to reinforce discipline/dominance 
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on December 13, 2019, 10:29:32 PM
i think shooting coyotes is weird and mean.  i loved killing them with greyhounds with my grandfather, though.  pretty hypocritical of me.  a lot of the things i love doing are really cruel to one animal or another, but i love animals.  it's weird.
Was rereading this thread looking for pheasant hunting advice and saw this.

My dad told me that my cousin that currently hunts coyotes from a stand used to have a pack of greyhounds to hunt them with, I thought my dad was crazy but apparently this was/is a thing?

I need more details. All my dad told me was the greyhounds would chase the coyote down and then the old grizzled veteran greyhound would go for the kill shot on the throat.

Can you confirm/deny?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: schreds21 on December 13, 2019, 10:43:35 PM
Grew up hunting coyotes with greyhounds.   Lot of fun yet kind of gruesome.   3-4 greyhounds to a set.  Usually had a really fast dog that was you catch dog.  The rest were there to crush the throat and chest.  Lots of high speed chases and some bad wrecks.  Was cool watching those dogs run though.
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Post by: Katpappy on December 13, 2019, 10:44:09 PM
i think shooting coyotes is weird and mean.  i loved killing them with greyhounds with my grandfather, though.  pretty hypocritical of me.  a lot of the things i love doing are really cruel to one animal or another, but i love animals.  it's weird.
Was rereading this thread looking for pheasant hunting advice and saw this.

My dad told me that my cousin that currently hunts coyotes from a stand used to have a pack of greyhounds to hunt them with, I thought my dad was crazy but apparently this was/is a thing?

I need more details. All my dad told me was the greyhounds would chase the coyote down and then the old grizzled veteran greyhound would go for the kill shot on the throat.

Can you confirm/deny?

Did you know coyotes are not a related species to dogs.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on December 13, 2019, 11:03:23 PM
Discipline discipline discipline.   Hunting is bred into them.  Discipline you must teach.  Simple commands such as sit, here, down are just repetitive stuff.  Establish dominance and reinforce discipline with stuff you do every day.  When you let it outside, make it sit until you say ok or whatever release command you want to use.  When you let it back inside, make it sit and dont let it come in until given a command.  When you feed it, make it sit and dont let it eat until given a release command.  These are things that are done every day and the easiest way to reinforce discipline/dominance

 :cheers:

The nick saban approach, I like it.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: schreds21 on December 13, 2019, 11:08:11 PM
As with Alabama football, it works.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on December 13, 2019, 11:51:36 PM
I like to grab an extension cord and my spare microwave (keep it covered in the fall) and head to the backyard.  load that sucker up with bird seed and #blessed blue jays and possums and crap

feels great when you're able to best these magnificent creatures on a level playing field such as you've described

while i don't microwave my prey, i have rigged a loud speaker in my backyard (i live in a rural community on several acres of land) to emit a super ultrasonic soundwave (that only animals can hear) when my motion detectors sense something on my land that is so loud it actually bursts the prey's ear drums and causes their ears to begin pouring out copious amounts of blood.  the blood travels to the electric grid i have inlaid into the ground and acts as a conduit to the animals brains by which the electric grid sends jolts of 1 million volts in 3, 30 second increments.  the first kills the animal, the 2nd cooks the animal, and the 3rd dries the cooked carcass into jerky that i eat when i go on my other hunting trips.  makes for a great snack.  call me old fashioned but i just love the sport of it all.  go cats.

Amazing post here by clams.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on December 14, 2019, 04:33:09 PM
My dad told me that my cousin that currently hunts coyotes from a stand used to have a pack of greyhounds to hunt them with, I thought my dad was crazy but apparently this was/is a thing?

I need more details. All my dad told me was the greyhounds would chase the coyote down and then the old grizzled veteran greyhound would go for the kill shot on the throat.

Can you confirm/deny?

yeah, that's about it.  there's a little variation in coyote finding technique (my grandfather had the greyhounds in box in a pickup and would drive around in fields and such until someone saw a coyote) but basically you find a coyote then the dogs chase it and kill it.

the fastest dog is the throw dog and has to trip the coyote, the kill dog is the boldest dog that will jump on the coyote and kill it and how ever many other dogs there are will bite at it a bit after the kill dog starts the fight.
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Post by: sys on December 14, 2019, 04:34:00 PM
also, super cute pup there.
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Post by: BW on December 14, 2019, 10:09:46 PM
Hardest thing to get Ruby to do is recall. Can use an e-collar but be careful!(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191215/d6ec0f93a2e47cde384372745d0aad19.jpg)

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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on December 15, 2019, 10:10:49 AM
Hardest thing to get Ruby to do is recall. Can use an e-collar but be careful!

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Bdubs, how did you train your dog? (Also thats a pretty dog)
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Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on December 15, 2019, 10:13:00 AM
So cute
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Post by: porky morgan on December 15, 2019, 10:56:51 AM
I've trained a few. I recommend Richard Wolters books, especially "Gun Dog." His methods are practical and anybody can do it. Just takes some time and consistency.
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Post by: meow meow on December 17, 2019, 11:34:45 AM
Gun Dog is the name of my band fwiw
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Post by: Katpappy on December 17, 2019, 01:26:02 PM
Gun Dog is the name of my band fwiw

So you hunt birds?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: BW on December 17, 2019, 09:02:10 PM
 Lots of discipline to work in the backyard for the basic commands. The Gun Dog book mentioned is good. Then she went to bird dog camp, mostly for interaction with birds. 

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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on December 27, 2019, 08:22:46 AM
Headed out to chase some pheasants this weekend with my brother and will bring Milo along (and Lady). I've been taking Milo for some nature walks along Indian Creek and some flood plain fields around it trying to get her warmed up as she is still pretty timid in new environments...took her off leash one time and she decided to trot behind a cyclist for about .25 miles while I chased after her.

I got a 40ft check cord to make sure that does not happen again and will let her run around some fields to try and find some birds but will not be shooting over her.  She will stay inside when I am actually trying to shoot birds.   Tentative plan is to introduce gunfire from about 50-75 yards away while she is eating to see how she reacts.

My cousin texted me this on Christmas Morning when he was checking the cows

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About 30 pheasant flew out of the windbreak behind the house this AM

 :Woohoo: :excited: :Carl: :crossfingers: :surprised: :runaway:
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Post by: porky morgan on December 27, 2019, 11:56:12 AM
Try banging pots and pans over her head when you feed her. She'll associate loud noise with good stuff.
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Post by: porky morgan on December 27, 2019, 12:04:15 PM
Also do you have a trap/skeet club nearby? Take her there on leash and walk around the parking lot with a pocket full of treats to give her when they are shooting.
My lab pup, Mojo, had zero issues with guns after that.
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Post by: 8manpick on December 27, 2019, 03:36:07 PM
That’s a fine looking pup!
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Post by: schreds21 on December 28, 2019, 01:31:08 PM
Try banging pots and pans over her head when you feed her. She'll associate loud noise with good stuff.
Also do you have a trap/skeet club nearby? Take her there on leash and walk around the parking lot with a pocket full of treats to give her when they are shooting.
My lab pup, Mojo, had zero issues with guns after that.
All sound advice.  Slam doors, bang pans, any abrupt loud noise that can be done in day to day activities around the house will help desensitize her to anything that resembles gunfire.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on December 29, 2019, 07:55:20 PM
Appreciate the ponters guyz. Popped off some shells twice while Milo was eating today, she was startled but not terrified like lady. Also let her run through some CRP and Milo and play with a pheasant we shot.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on December 29, 2019, 07:58:01 PM
Having snow on the ground is a game changer. My brother and I hunted yesterday and probably shot at around 5 roosters but didnt hit any.

It snowed about an inch or two overnight and we had much better luck today, each got one before noon. No dogs, just two bros who have no idea what they are doing walking around in some CRP.

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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on December 29, 2019, 08:04:39 PM
Headed out to chase some pheasants this weekend with my brother and will bring Milo along (and Lady). I've been taking Milo for some nature walks along Indian Creek and some flood plain fields around it trying to get her warmed up as she is still pretty timid in new environments...took her off leash one time and she decided to trot behind a cyclist for about .25 miles while I chased after her.

I got a 40ft check cord to make sure that does not happen again and will let her run around some fields to try and find some birds but will not be shooting over her.  She will stay inside when I am actually trying to shoot birds.   Tentative plan is to introduce gunfire from about 50-75 yards away while she is eating to see how she reacts.

My cousin texted me this on Christmas Morning when he was checking the cows

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About 30 pheasant flew out of the windbreak behind the house this AM

 :Woohoo: :excited: :Carl: :crossfingers: :surprised: :runaway:
Ive been hunting the windbreak a couple times a day and this morning I missed a golden opportunity. There was some brush up next to the tree line with a road and field on the other side.

Apparently there was a "chute" through the brush to the tree line, birds kept flushing 2 or 3 at a time from the same spot. First 6 or 7 were hens then at the end 3 roosters flushed!

I was expecting more hens and panicked, missed the first two roosters, clipped the third but it took off running when it landed in the field across the street. I tried to follow it but lost it.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on December 29, 2019, 08:08:52 PM
Which leads me to another question.

Lets say Im hunting the edge of my land, shoot a bird and it lands about 20 yards in the neighbors land, im assuming im good to grab it right?

But what if you clip a bird and comes down in their land and it takes off running, how far can you pursue it?

(Assume its private land, no WIHA and you have not met the people)
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on December 29, 2019, 08:41:50 PM
Also my cousin got some coyotes recently, saw these hanging in the barn.

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Post by: bucket on December 29, 2019, 09:03:11 PM
Also my cousin got some coyotes recently, saw these hanging in the barn.

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Heard the pelts fetch a fair price. Don't you have to have a license or something?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on December 29, 2019, 09:04:58 PM
Also my cousin got some coyotes recently, saw these hanging in the barn.

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Heard the pelts fetch a fair price. Don't you have to have a license or something?
Its open season 24/7 365 with no limit but only the winter pelts are worth money, go for $50-$100 each.
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Post by: bucket on December 29, 2019, 09:06:07 PM
Also my cousin got some coyotes recently, saw these hanging in the barn.

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Heard the pelts fetch a fair price. Don't you have to have a license or something?
Its open season 24/7 365 with no limit but only the winter pelts are worth money, go for $50-$100 each.

I meant a license to sell the pelts. I thought there was a catch.
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Post by: schreds21 on December 29, 2019, 11:46:47 PM
Which leads me to another question.

Lets say Im hunting the edge of my land, shoot a bird and it lands about 20 yards in the neighbors land, im assuming im good to grab it right?

But what if you clip a bird and comes down in their land and it takes off running, how far can you pursue it?

(Assume its private land, no WIHA and you have not met the people)
You have a legal right/obligation to retrieve wounded game.  However, you must still have permission to enter someone else's property.  If they will not grant you permission, you can contact your local game warden and they will come out and assist in the matter.
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Post by: 8manpick on December 30, 2019, 06:27:21 AM
Which leads me to another question.

Lets say Im hunting the edge of my land, shoot a bird and it lands about 20 yards in the neighbors land, im assuming im good to grab it right?

But what if you clip a bird and comes down in their land and it takes off running, how far can you pursue it?

(Assume its private land, no WIHA and you have not met the people)
This may be South Dakota only, so may not be the same, but you can go into someone else’s land to retrieve a downed bird, but cannot take your gun with you. Obviously this doesn’t help much on an active runner without a dog. AFAIK, there isn’t a provision to go hunt someone’s land without permission, just because there is a wounded bird there.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on December 30, 2019, 09:24:37 PM
Thanks bros, kinda what I was thinking...grab the bird off the neighbors land but you cant pursue it. Not an issue I have run into yet but just wanted to make sure that was the standard practice.

Got another rooster this morning. Spent most of the afternoon walking milo around the windbreak/fields and letting her play with the dead pheasant.

She did find a live pheasant under a tree and flushed it out, no point just went in after it. Thats a start I guess!
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Post by: KST8FAN on January 03, 2020, 06:47:42 PM
A couple hunters having good luck on the quarry ponds at the farm.

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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Church Creeper on January 03, 2020, 07:31:56 PM
The rodents of the plains. Kill as many as possible.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Katpappy on January 04, 2020, 11:55:51 AM
The rodents of the plains. Kill as many as possible.

Geese were rare when I was a kid. '60's to early '70's.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on January 04, 2020, 08:00:02 PM
Decided on a day trip to see if I could kick up any birds with Milo today. Walked some WIHA fields west of Clay Center but didnt see a bird.

Moved over to the Concordia area and the last field I worked I kicked up 4 Hens along the fence line between a corn field and CRP. Milo was behind me sniffing some bones and did not help at all. Sometimes she would run ahead of me and it looked like she might be hunting and then other times (especially in thick CRP) she would just follow right behind me and walk in my path.

Going back to the cat ranch over MLK weekend for one last go this season.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: steve dave on January 04, 2020, 08:33:59 PM
You guys want to know what the best shotgun is? 16 gauge. Anyone who wants to fight me about it can come get some. Shoots like a 12, carries like a 20. It's not overkill for quail and is still great for pheasant. I mean, it's kinda overkill for dove but I've still blasted about a million of them, what of it? also mallards, once irl at like 13 years old I walked up on a creek on our ranch where we saw a bunch of ducks flying in and let fly (not aiming) with 5 shots and killed 5 ducks. sky was entirely black with ducks but this is a post about guns and not shooting. I believe that is above what was the legal limit at that time (maybe today?) so don't narc me out.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: steve dave on January 04, 2020, 08:37:42 PM
also mine is a semi-auto. basically a machine gun. I can spend a shitload of money really fast with this fast shooting SOB. like, most of my buds shoot once or twice and have to "pump" or whatever and I just let fly with as many bullets as mine has and it's a lot. like 5 iirc.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: steve dave on January 04, 2020, 08:39:05 PM
also I bought it at a pawn shop in Dodge City, KS when I was in 8th grade (wtf? but irl). I don't remember the name of the pawn shop but it shared the parking lot with Bo's/Bob's(?) Aqua Slide so you locals know the one. Good selection of guns and stolen crap.

EDIT: I think the name of the pawn shop may have been Bob's Pawn Shop like he owned both a pawn shop and a giant aqua slide. pretty badass actually.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: steve dave on January 04, 2020, 08:50:17 PM
also as a junior high/high school age person I almost blasted my buds heads off about a dozen times. and they mine. in hindsight who TF lets kids just roam off around the countryside with shitloads of guns and go blast just whatever they feel like? rural kansans, that's who. but, I mean, the proof is in the pudding. we mostly all lived. and we did shoot a shitload of animals (most of the illegal ones were irl by accident because we just start blasting).

Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: wetwillie on January 04, 2020, 09:37:10 PM
You can shoot 6 ducks of which 5 ducks can be mallards. Unsurprisingly you nailed it.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on January 06, 2020, 08:15:38 AM
I would like to hear more SD hunting stories about roaming the countryside just blasting whatever they feel like.

I'm going out to blast some pheasants at the cat ranch one last time over MLK weekend but none of my city boy friends wanted to join. I reached out to an old frat bro who lives in council grove and within 24 hours he had rounded up a group with 2 trained dogs to come with.

I told him "Wow, its so much easier to get you to come hunting than my city bro's!" and he said "Country boys shoot crap and drink beer". Then he tried to sell me his old Beretta A303.

Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on January 06, 2020, 08:22:09 AM
Also I learned for the first time that my dad had an english pointer when he was a kid and used to go pheasant hunting growing up...Which is weird because I never knew he had a dog as a kid and I've never heard him talk about killing an animal, just saving cats.

There are some possums that keep eating the cat food in the barns and instead of just blasting them he traps them and relocates them a couple of miles down the road.

Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: steve dave on January 06, 2020, 08:23:39 AM
you should keep those possums around unless they are rabies ones. actually you should put some frontline+ on them as well.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: 8manpick on January 06, 2020, 09:08:08 AM
16's are the best, sd. Canco.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on January 06, 2020, 10:57:33 AM
you should keep those possums around unless they are rabies ones. actually you should put some frontline+ on them as well.

SD, did you not read that they were eating the cats kibble? The cats have a long winter ahead of them and need all the Kibble they can get.

Side Question - What was your favorite animal to blast when you hunted?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: steve dave on January 06, 2020, 11:04:04 AM
While not an animal I’ll say clay. Second choice is an old barn or house in the middle of a field that’s falling down.


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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Kat Kid on January 06, 2020, 12:16:15 PM
every once in awhile I will go on the beretta website and look at the handmade engraved guns that are like $20,000. Other than that don't really have any interest.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on January 08, 2020, 09:24:20 AM
Anyone have any advice/training games to play with pheasant wings?

I've got a bag of Pheasant wings in my freezer and looking for ways to utilize them to make Milo the best bird dog west of the Mississippi. Currently I get her all riled up then we play fetch with them, then I will hide some around the house and say "dead bird" and make her go look for them. Just started doing this a couple of days ago but she's getting pretty good at finding them.

The key is having like 8 different wings to use as they start to thaw out after around 5 minutes.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: steve dave on January 08, 2020, 09:56:33 AM
That’s grossout city


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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on January 08, 2020, 10:24:28 AM
Hey steve dave, why dont you go catch and release a bullhead and let the cold blooded animal killers here help me out.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: wetwillie on January 08, 2020, 11:34:24 AM
I hide mine around the yard and let my lab pup find them.  They can follow your scent trail so it’s not super hard but it’s fun to watch them work the wind and circle in on it when they catch the scent.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Katpappy on January 08, 2020, 09:18:12 PM
also as a junior high/high school age person I almost blasted my buds heads off about a dozen times. and they mine. in hindsight who TF lets kids just roam off around the countryside with shitloads of guns and go blast just whatever they feel like? rural kansans, that's who. but, I mean, the proof is in the pudding. we mostly all lived. and we did shoot a shitload of animals (most of the illegal ones were irl by accident because we just start blasting).

This response is a little late, but wanted to comment on this subject.  Back when I went to high school, it was common for kids and farmers to have guns hanging on a gun rack across the rear window of their pickups.  Most of the time in your home town, we didn't even lock the trucks and even left the windows down in the summer.  We just didn't have the nuts that run around these days, as I wouldn't even think about hanging a rifle on the back window rack of my truck.  Not only the chance of it getting stolen, but also, a chance of a idiot cop shooting you.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: waks on January 09, 2020, 03:16:24 AM
also as a junior high/high school age person I almost blasted my buds heads off about a dozen times. and they mine. in hindsight who TF lets kids just roam off around the countryside with shitloads of guns and go blast just whatever they feel like? rural kansans, that's who. but, I mean, the proof is in the pudding. we mostly all lived. and we did shoot a shitload of animals (most of the illegal ones were irl by accident because we just start blasting).

This response is a little late, but wanted to comment on this subject.  Back when I went to high school, it was common for kids and farmers to have guns hanging on a gun rack across the rear window of their pickups.  Most of the time in your home town, we didn't even lock the trucks and even left the windows down in the summer.  We just didn't have the nuts that run around these days, as I wouldn't even think about hanging a rifle on the back window rack of my truck.  Not only the chance of it getting stolen, but also, a chance of a idiot cop shooting you.
:jerk: whatever libtard
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: Katpappy on January 09, 2020, 03:32:39 AM
also as a junior high/high school age person I almost blasted my buds heads off about a dozen times. and they mine. in hindsight who TF lets kids just roam off around the countryside with shitloads of guns and go blast just whatever they feel like? rural kansans, that's who. but, I mean, the proof is in the pudding. we mostly all lived. and we did shoot a shitload of animals (most of the illegal ones were irl by accident because we just start blasting).

This response is a little late, but wanted to comment on this subject.  Back when I went to high school, it was common for kids and farmers to have guns hanging on a gun rack across the rear window of their pickups.  Most of the time in your home town, we didn't even lock the trucks and even left the windows down in the summer.  We just didn't have the nuts that run around these days, as I wouldn't even think about hanging a rifle on the back window rack of my truck.  Not only the chance of it getting stolen, but also, a chance of a idiot cop shooting you.
:jerk: whatever libtard

Are you a cop or just a thief?
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on January 13, 2020, 08:36:36 AM
Went duck hunting down by Lacyne for the first time on Saturday morning with a buddy. It was a private pond with a hoopty blind made out of an old tree fort platform and some boards but it worked, he had some extra waders and all the gear so I just had to show up.

I'm not a big fan of the getting up super early in the cold but still had a good time and even killed one duck! We should of killed two ducks since they both landed about 40 yards in front of us...We opened up a volley and thought we got both, one went under, came back up sideways then started swimming in circles. We both shot at it one more time but missed and then it flew away.  :facepalm:

We didn't have a dog to retrieve the duck so I had to wade out and get it myself like a peasant.  Planning on going again in 2 weeks to blast some more of mother nature's offspring.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on January 14, 2020, 01:38:32 AM
every once in awhile I will go on the beretta website and look at the handmade engraved guns that are like $20,000. Other than that don't really have any interest.

this is the weirdest thing that i now know about you.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: sys on January 14, 2020, 01:40:33 AM
killing ducks is some of the funnest animal killing, but they taste like absolute crap, so i had to stop.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on January 14, 2020, 10:32:11 AM
killing ducks is some of the funnest animal killing, but they taste like absolute crap, so i had to stop.

I just ate my duck last night and thought it was good  :dunno:

Better than pheasant IMO
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: wetwillie on January 14, 2020, 11:03:38 AM
Wood ducks are good mallards are ok, the diving ducks are not edible.  Blasphemy on the pheasant part.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on January 14, 2020, 11:17:40 AM
Wood ducks are good mallards are ok, the diving ducks are not edible.  Blasphemy on the pheasant part.

Give me some good pheasant recipes. So far I've cooked one in a slow cooker with bacon/cream of mushroom and roasted in the oven basting in Olive Oil every 20 minutes. The roasted one was better IMO.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on January 14, 2020, 11:29:16 AM
I'm heading out to the cat ranch this weekend for one more chance to blast birds and this time I will have 2 trained bird dogs to hunt with on Saturday. Looking forward to seeing how many birds I've aimlessly walked past when I hunted solo.

Milo and Lady will be coming along too but I don't plan to bring Milo out in the fields with the trained dogs as she will probably just get in the way. Might do a short hunt with her and the other dogs after we have killed some birds but I think she will spaz out being surrounded by 2 other dogs and 4 bro's.

Assuming she responds well to gunshots again I'm planning on taking her for her first solo hunt sometime on Sunday aka I'll just turn her loose in the CRP and let her run around while I follow her with a shotgun.

Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on January 18, 2020, 10:04:40 AM
I'm about 68% sure I just spooked a mt lion while pheasant hunting in our CRP.....

It was too far away to be 100% sure but it was a large cat and brownish, took off running through CRP when I was about 150 yards away.

Watched it run across the pasture and over some other fields.

It was in some tall grass so it was hard to see exactly how big it was but it appeared larger than a bobcat.
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: steve dave on January 18, 2020, 11:33:00 AM
juvenile african lion
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on January 18, 2020, 04:04:24 PM
I mean, it was probably a bobcat but if it was a bobcat it was a very large bobcat. Definitely was a "woah dude" moment.

Got skunked on the cat ranch this morning but found a WIHA honey hole that's 3 miles away. Creeky/grassy draw surrounded by corn fields. Got 2 roosters and missed another. At the end of the draw about 10 birds flushed, had to track a rooster I hit so I couldn't get another. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200118/907a1222783cba369264df30be78e012.jpg)
Title: Killing animals
Post by: steve dave on January 18, 2020, 07:19:09 PM
It was either a bobcat or a very large farm cat

Source: 15+ years of listening to farmers claim they saw a mountain lion


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Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on January 18, 2020, 08:23:57 PM
It was either a bobcat or a very large farm cat

Source: 15+ years of listening to farmers claim they saw a mountain lion


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I texted my coyote hunting cousin after I saw it and he said it was probably a bobcat and then later in the day I saw him driving around trying to find it.

He pulled up to the house as I was outside and our conversation went like this.

Cousin: Wish I could find that bobcat, worth $60 bucks.

Ben ji: Yeah, it took off pretty far. I'm going to hunt the CRP for pheasant again real quick if you want to join.

Cousin: Nah, fur guy is in goodland this weekend. Going to see if I can get a coyote.

Ben ji: You going to call them in from your coyote blind?

Cousin: Nope, quick hunt. Gonna drive around some corn stubble and see if I can pin one down.

I didnt really know what he meant and then he just took off driving around in some corn stubble across the road that didn't belong to us. (I'm Assuming he has permission since he is a local)
Title: Re: Killing animals
Post by: ben ji on January 18, 2020, 08:27:11 PM
And he got a couple! (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200119/dc0e88f0dfb2523c9948a436937bfbc5.jpg)