Post by: Rams on November 04, 2011, 09:33:35 PM
Post by: sys on November 04, 2011, 10:01:45 PM
Post by: Rams on November 04, 2011, 10:11:42 PM
i want to shoot a pig, but don't have a good place to go.Arizona. But they call them Javelina.
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Post by: sys on November 04, 2011, 10:13:28 PM
Post by: Rams on November 04, 2011, 10:17:22 PM
no, i want a pig. sus scrofa.Tejas. Never been but looks fun.
Post by: sys on November 04, 2011, 10:22:24 PM
Post by: Rams on November 04, 2011, 10:29:03 PM
i meant i want to shoot a pig within 25 miles of my house. i don't care if it's fun or not, i want to eat it.
If you're not doing it for sport, you can just buy it in the store and save yourself a lot of hassle. Pro tip* It's marketed as "pork."
Anything else I can help you with?
Post by: sys on November 04, 2011, 10:35:18 PM
you can just buy it in the store and save yourself a lot of hassle. Pro tip* It's marketed as "pork."
doesn't taste the same.
Post by: doom on November 04, 2011, 11:17:20 PM
Post by: j-von on November 04, 2011, 11:42:30 PM
Post by: the_ugly_clown on November 05, 2011, 12:25:05 AM
Post by: sys on November 05, 2011, 02:08:35 AM
I'd like to kill the coyotes in my neighborhood.
why?
Post by: KSUTOMMY on November 05, 2011, 05:05:03 AM
Texas is the place to be for pig, MO is okay too. I hunt white tail deer, but have always wanted to get a boar.
I too have thought about this recently... wild pigs are such a problem in TX, you don't need a tag, you can shoot 'em year round and shoot as many as you can. I understand the young pigs are pretty :lick: you can find guys who'll take you out to hunt on Craigslist!
Post by: Trim on November 05, 2011, 06:21:36 AM
Is this the place to talk about hunting? Anybody want to talk about hunting? :users:
I prefer to call it judging.
sys, next time you're around GCCPAkat and I, have him tell you his wild boar story. Me typing it here can't do it justice.
Post by: Houstoncat93 on November 05, 2011, 07:26:12 AM
Texas is the place to be for pig, MO is okay too. I hunt white tail deer, but have always wanted to get a boar.
I too have thought about this recently... wild pigs are such a problem in TX, you don't need a tag, you can shoot 'em year round and shoot as many as you can. I understand the young pigs are pretty :lick: you can find guys who'll take you out to hunt on Craigslist!
You can even hunt them from a helicopter down here.
Post by: steve dave on November 05, 2011, 07:51:03 AM
Post by: AppleJack on November 05, 2011, 08:37:36 AM
#teamanimals
Post by: Rams on November 05, 2011, 12:57:38 PM
Post by: sys on November 05, 2011, 02:27:15 PM
I just wanted to talk about deer hunting with some wildcat bros. Thanks for ruining my thread, dorks. :shakesfist:
i've shot a couple of deer. they were ok, not great. not a lot of usable meat, for how big they look on the outside.
Post by: chum1 on November 05, 2011, 02:41:19 PM
Post by: Rams on November 05, 2011, 04:12:23 PM
i hate that fatass, redneck pos hunters and fishers get lumped into the same "outdoor" category as fit, good-looking hikers, mountain climbers, etc. eff you, you rough ridin' pos hunters and fishers. you suck.:opcat:
Post by: Rams on November 05, 2011, 04:19:41 PM
I just wanted to talk about deer hunting with some wildcat bros. Thanks for ruining my thread, dorks. :shakesfist:
i've shot a couple of deer. they were ok, not great. not a lot of usable meat, for how big they look on the outside.
Can't tell if serious. Bow or rifle?
And if you don't like venison, you've either never had it prepared right or don't like good food. It's my favorite non-fish meat and probably 60% of the reason I hunt. :fatty:
Post by: sys on November 05, 2011, 05:07:30 PM
Can't tell if serious. Bow or rifle?
And if you don't like venison, you've either never had it prepared right or don't like good food. It's my favorite non-fish meat and probably 60% of the reason I hunt. :fatty:
i'm serious. rifle. maybe, i dunno. it wasn't that i didn't like it, it was just pretty meh. i loved elk.
Post by: Big Sam on November 05, 2011, 05:11:37 PM
i want to hunt cows.To keep it remotely interesting, I recommend a smaller sized sledgehammer.
Post by: Pete on November 05, 2011, 05:52:56 PM
I just wanted to talk about deer hunting with some wildcat bros. Thanks for ruining my thread, dorks. :shakesfist:
Deer are an overpopulated nuisance and danger in Northeast Kansas. Shoot away, bro.
Post by: HeinBallz on November 06, 2011, 09:57:52 AM
Post by: DQ12 on November 07, 2011, 12:21:54 AM
The taste of deer meat has a lot to do with their diet. I stopped hunting deer because all we have around here are milo & corn fields & the deer meat just taste like crap. Heinballz houshold is very pro hunting, but I hate trophy hunters; so if you're killing deer just for fun, I think you're a dick.Unless you're dirt poor and starving, all hunting is some form of trophy hunting, imo.
Post by: WillieWatanabe on November 07, 2011, 08:03:42 AM
I just wanted to talk about deer hunting with some wildcat bros. Thanks for ruining my thread, dorks. :shakesfist:
Deer are an overpopulated nuisance and danger in Northeast Kansas. Shoot away, bro.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 07, 2011, 09:56:14 AM
Post by: schreds21 on November 09, 2011, 08:58:34 AM
The taste of deer meat has a lot to do with their diet. I stopped hunting deer because all we have around here are milo & corn fields & the deer meat just taste like crap. Heinballz houshold is very pro hunting, but I hate trophy hunters; so if you're killing deer just for fun, I think you're a dick.
Hey dipshit, what would you rather have them eat? Acorns like in Arkansas and Mizzou? Scrub brush like in W. Texas? Marsh grass like in Florida? Try eating one of the scrawny pieces of crap from one of those areas. If all you have is milo and corn fields, the deer in your area are eating the same thing that cattle are fed in a goddamn feedlot. Have you ever had beef that has only been free grazed on grass? It's tougher than hell and tastes like crap cause it has no fat and marbeling from grain. Though you are correct that the taste has a lot to do with diet, your deer are eating the best diet they can have for taste. It could just be that deer meat doesn't agree with your palette or that you are preparing it wrong.
Post by: Winters on November 09, 2011, 09:14:17 AM
Post by: CNS on November 09, 2011, 09:15:31 AM
I prob prepare it wrong, since the only recipes I have had for venison are from my dad, and he is a bad cook for all other types of food.
When talking with others about prep, I always get recipes that involve marinating it in something for a long time, or cooking it while draped in bacon. Honestly, if you have to do either, than all you are doing is trying to make something that doesn't taste very good tastes like marinade or bacon. This being the case, why eat it?
I enjoy the outdoor side of hunting, and do shoot one every know and then, but usually end up giving the meat to people who do like to eat it.
Also, I hunt in north central ks, where they get plenty of corn/milo.
Post by: steve dave on November 09, 2011, 10:07:14 AM
Post by: Cire on November 09, 2011, 10:15:17 AM
Post by: Winters on November 09, 2011, 10:29:27 AM
Post by: Rams on November 09, 2011, 10:54:28 AM
The best preparation for venison is to marinate the tenderloin in some soy sauce, honey, garlic, onion chowder, etc. and then grill it to rare/medium rare. Served it sliced thin on a bed of quinoa pilaf and drizzle it with a mixed berry puree. I also put it in a food processor with some pork fat and make hamburgers out of it...no more done than medium, obvi. Venison chili is great too.
And yes, this thread has taken a clear turn towards GPC territory. :shakesfist: I was more interested in talking about how everyone's season is going so far, not about the taste of rough ridin' venison.
BTW, rifle "hunting" for deer isn't hunting. It's just killing. There's no sport in it and it's a totally unfair fight. Rifle hunting is for lazy retards. #teamarchery
Post by: jmlynch1 on November 09, 2011, 11:39:07 AM
In all honesty, the taste of deer meat has more to do with factors other than diet...specifically the time of year and how clean the kill is. If it's during rut and you don't get a clean kill, it's probably going to be VERY gamey from all the adrenaline and increased blood flow. If it's a clean kill and pre-rut, the meat is going to taste better because there is much less adrenaline and the deer aren't as stressed.I don't hunt or anything so I have no idea, but how is using a bow more fair than using a rifle?
The best preparation for venison is to marinate the tenderloin in some soy sauce, honey, garlic, onion chowder, etc. and then grill it to rare/medium rare. Served it sliced thin on a bed of quinoa pilaf and drizzle it with a mixed berry puree. I also put it in a food processor with some pork fat and make hamburgers out of it...no more done than medium, obvi. Venison chili is great too.
And yes, this thread has taken a clear turn towards GPC territory. :shakesfist: I was more interested in talking about how everyone's season is going so far, not about the taste of rough ridin' venison.
BTW, rifle "hunting" for deer isn't hunting. It's just killing. There's no sport in it and it's a totally unfair fight. Rifle hunting is for lazy retards. #teamarchery
Post by: CNS on November 09, 2011, 11:46:42 AM
BTW, rifle "hunting" for deer isn't hunting. It's just killing. There's no sport in it and it's a totally unfair fight. Rifle hunting is for lazy retards. #teamarchery
Man, I could really bring the GPC on this one. Refraining.
Post by: Rams on November 09, 2011, 11:55:48 AM
In all honesty, the taste of deer meat has more to do with factors other than diet...specifically the time of year and how clean the kill is. If it's during rut and you don't get a clean kill, it's probably going to be VERY gamey from all the adrenaline and increased blood flow. If it's a clean kill and pre-rut, the meat is going to taste better because there is much less adrenaline and the deer aren't as stressed.I don't hunt or anything so I have no idea, but how is using a bow more fair than using a rifle?
The best preparation for venison is to marinate the tenderloin in some soy sauce, honey, garlic, onion chowder, etc. and then grill it to rare/medium rare. Served it sliced thin on a bed of quinoa pilaf and drizzle it with a mixed berry puree. I also put it in a food processor with some pork fat and make hamburgers out of it...no more done than medium, obvi. Venison chili is great too.
And yes, this thread has taken a clear turn towards GPC territory. :shakesfist: I was more interested in talking about how everyone's season is going so far, not about the taste of rough ridin' venison.
BTW, rifle "hunting" for deer isn't hunting. It's just killing. There's no sport in it and it's a totally unfair fight. Rifle hunting is for lazy retards. #teamarchery
Getting within 30 yards of a deer and pulling a bow back is infinitely harder than getting within 200 yards of a deer and pulling the trigger. The odds are in their favor that they're going to smell you, hear you or see you before they get within range. Virtually none of that is a problem when you hunt with a rifle. There's just no skill involved.
Post by: Rams on November 09, 2011, 11:56:43 AM
BTW, rifle "hunting" for deer isn't hunting. It's just killing. There's no sport in it and it's a totally unfair fight. Rifle hunting is for lazy retards. #teamarchery
Man, I could really bring the GPC on this one. Refraining.
:comeatme:
Post by: Cire on November 09, 2011, 11:58:30 AM
In all honesty, the taste of deer meat has more to do with factors other than diet...specifically the time of year and how clean the kill is. If it's during rut and you don't get a clean kill, it's probably going to be VERY gamey from all the adrenaline and increased blood flow. If it's a clean kill and pre-rut, the meat is going to taste better because there is much less adrenaline and the deer aren't as stressed.
The best preparation for venison is to marinate the tenderloin in some soy sauce, honey, garlic, onion chowder, etc. and then grill it to rare/medium rare. Served it sliced thin on a bed of quinoa pilaf and drizzle it with a mixed berry puree. I also put it in a food processor with some pork fat and make hamburgers out of it...no more done than medium, obvi. Venison chili is great too.
And yes, this thread has taken a clear turn towards GPC territory. :shakesfist: I was more interested in talking about how everyone's season is going so far, not about the taste of rough ridin' venison.
BTW, rifle "hunting" for deer isn't hunting. It's just killing. There's no sport in it and it's a totally unfair fight. Rifle hunting is for lazy retards. #teamarchery
sounds like you don't like the taste of venison either imo
Post by: Rams on November 09, 2011, 12:05:51 PM
It doesn't mask the entire taste of venison, dumbass. It just cuts the gamey taste and enhances the natural flavor.In all honesty, the taste of deer meat has more to do with factors other than diet...specifically the time of year and how clean the kill is. If it's during rut and you don't get a clean kill, it's probably going to be VERY gamey from all the adrenaline and increased blood flow. If it's a clean kill and pre-rut, the meat is going to taste better because there is much less adrenaline and the deer aren't as stressed.
The best preparation for venison is to marinate the tenderloin in some soy sauce, honey, garlic, onion chowder, etc. and then grill it to rare/medium rare. Served it sliced thin on a bed of quinoa pilaf and drizzle it with a mixed berry puree. I also put it in a food processor with some pork fat and make hamburgers out of it...no more done than medium, obvi. Venison chili is great too.
And yes, this thread has taken a clear turn towards GPC territory. :shakesfist: I was more interested in talking about how everyone's season is going so far, not about the taste of rough ridin' venison.
BTW, rifle "hunting" for deer isn't hunting. It's just killing. There's no sport in it and it's a totally unfair fight. Rifle hunting is for lazy retards. #teamarchery
sounds like you don't like the taste of venison either imo
You eat all of your food with no seasoning?
Post by: WillieWatanabe on November 09, 2011, 12:06:41 PM
BTW, rifle "hunting" for deer isn't hunting. It's just killing. There's no sport in it and it's a totally unfair fight. Rifle hunting is for lazy retards. #teamarchery
We are rough ridin' humans. Everything is an unfair fight.
Post by: Rams on November 09, 2011, 12:24:41 PM
BTW, rifle "hunting" for deer isn't hunting. It's just killing. There's no sport in it and it's a totally unfair fight. Rifle hunting is for lazy retards. #teamarchery
We are rough ridin' humans. Everything is an unfair fight.
The fact that we're humans only means we have the ABILITY to make everything an unfair fight in our favor.
Post by: CNS on November 09, 2011, 02:19:26 PM
Post by: AbeFroman on November 09, 2011, 04:15:38 PM
Do you always have to hunt at the ass crack of dawn? My friend is big into hunting and wants to take me, but I really have no desire to go sit in a field at 5am on a Saturday. Don't get me wrong, I'm ok with people murdering wild animals, but can't it happen at like 1 in the afternoon?
Post by: CNS on November 09, 2011, 04:36:56 PM
LHIQ here,
Do you always have to hunt at the ass crack of dawn? My friend is big into hunting and wants to take me, but I really have no desire to go sit in a field at 5am on a Saturday. Don't get me wrong, I'm ok with people murdering wild animals, but can't it happen at like 1 in the afternoon?
Not a 100% across the board rule(depends on what you hunt), but yes, usually you have to be out well before dawn.
Post by: Rams on November 09, 2011, 08:19:47 PM
Only dumbasses make things harder than they have to be.
If the only goal is to end up with a dead deer, then I would agree. If one of the reasons you're doing it for sport, then that rule doesn't apply. SEE: hiking around a mountain rather than driving (enjoying the outdoors/exercise), going for a run rather than going for a drive (exercise). Both of those things are harder than they have to be, but accomplish the same end result. One of the main reasons anyone partakes in any sport is for the challenge. Hunting deer with a rifle isn't challenging. It's like playing one-on-one vs. a 3rd grader and bragging about how many points you scored. I just don't understand it.
Post by: wetwillie on November 09, 2011, 08:26:00 PM
Post by: Rams on November 09, 2011, 08:28:15 PM
LHIQ here,
Do you always have to hunt at the ass crack of dawn? My friend is big into hunting and wants to take me, but I really have no desire to go sit in a field at 5am on a Saturday. Don't get me wrong, I'm ok with people murdering wild animals, but can't it happen at like 1 in the afternoon?
Deer are most active during the early morning and evening when they are traveling to and from feeding areas and bedding areas. You need to either be out an hour or so before dawn or a couple of hours before dusk. I've shot just as many deer in the evening as I have in the morning...maybe more. For instance, I'm going out Friday morning and I'll probably go out again on Sunday evening.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 09, 2011, 08:28:34 PM
Only dumbasses make things harder than they have to be.
If the only goal is to end up with a dead deer, then I would agree. If one of the reasons you're doing it for sport, then that rule doesn't apply. SEE: hiking around a mountain rather than driving (enjoying the outdoors/exercise), going for a run rather than going for a drive (exercise). Both of those things are harder than they have to be, but accomplish the same end result. One of the main reasons anyone partakes in any sport is for the challenge. Hunting deer with a rifle isn't challenging. It's like playing one-on-one vs. a 3rd grader and bragging about how many points you scored. I just don't understand it.
Seems like using a bow is cheating.
Stalk and fight the thing. only natural weapons. rocks, sticks, teeth or hands. Otherwise you are also running up the score on a 3rd grader. Blasting him with a 85lb compund bow and a tungsten steel broadhead is not sport.
Post by: chum1 on November 09, 2011, 08:42:13 PM
[ike playing one-on-one vs. a 3rd grader and bragging about how many points you scored.
this is the exact example that pops into my mind when people on this site lol @ really dumb phog and gpc quotes.
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 14, 2011, 04:58:19 PM
Post by: Brock Landers on November 14, 2011, 05:12:56 PM
LHIQ here,
Do you always have to hunt at the ass crack of dawn? My friend is big into hunting and wants to take me, but I really have no desire to go sit in a field at 5am on a Saturday. Don't get me wrong, I'm ok with people murdering wild animals, but can't it happen at like 1 in the afternoon?
QFT. I have had offers to go hunting with some hunting peeps, even though I don't own a rifle or have a hunting license or deer tags or any of that crap. They told me they were given access to some land out by Salina and would be coming to pick me up at 3. I told them if they meant 3 PM that was fine but since I'm pretty sure they meant 3 AM to leave me the eff alone.
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 14, 2011, 05:36:24 PM
LHIQ here,
Do you always have to hunt at the ass crack of dawn? My friend is big into hunting and wants to take me, but I really have no desire to go sit in a field at 5am on a Saturday. Don't get me wrong, I'm ok with people murdering wild animals, but can't it happen at like 1 in the afternoon?
QFT. I have had offers to go hunting with some hunting peeps, even though I don't own a rifle or have a hunting license or deer tags or any of that crap. They told me they were given access to some land out by Salina and would be coming to pick me up at 3. I told them if they meant 3 PM that was fine but since I'm pretty sure they meant 3 AM to leave me the eff alone.
To clarify guys, it doesn't have to happen so early. But if you're all into it and stuff that definitely is one of the best times.
Post by: sys on November 15, 2011, 12:34:40 AM
Post by: CNS on November 15, 2011, 09:01:27 AM
getting up early makes it feel harder, that's the main purpose. because it's really not hard.
Unless you bow hunt....apparently.
Post by: HeinBallz on November 15, 2011, 10:00:04 PM
The taste of deer meat has a lot to do with their diet. I stopped hunting deer because all we have around here are milo & corn fields & the deer meat just taste like crap. Heinballz houshold is very pro hunting, but I hate trophy hunters; so if you're killing deer just for fun, I think you're a dick.
Hey dipshit, what would you rather have them eat? Acorns like in Arkansas and Mizzou? Scrub brush like in W. Texas? Marsh grass like in Florida? Try eating one of the scrawny pieces of crap from one of those areas. If all you have is milo and corn fields, the deer in your area are eating the same thing that cattle are fed in a goddamn feedlot. Have you ever had beef that has only been free grazed on grass? It's tougher than hell and tastes like crap cause it has no fat and marbeling from grain. Though you are correct that the taste has a lot to do with diet, your deer are eating the best diet they can have for taste. It could just be that deer meat doesn't agree with your palette or that you are preparing it wrong.
Hey fucknutz. I've taken big game in 3 different states so I know you don't know what the eff you're talking about. A deer is not a rough ridin' cow and taste very different. In fact, wild game taste "Gamey" when they have too much fat on them you stupid dick knuckle. You want a good tasting deer? Go shoot one in colorado where they spend all winter eating bark off a rough ridin' tree. Ever eat a cow that spent all winter eating bark from a rough ridin' tree? No? Me neither, but if deer meat is any indication I would say beef taste rough ridin' amazing.
Post by: steve dave on November 16, 2011, 12:08:41 PM
Post by: EllToPay on November 16, 2011, 12:22:07 PM
Post by: steve dave on November 16, 2011, 12:25:55 PM
#teamanimals
Post by: Rams on October 20, 2012, 11:26:45 PM
Post by: CNS on October 20, 2012, 11:29:52 PM
Hopefull geno didnt have the same luck and the box of kittens lives to know another day
Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk 2
Post by: Rams on October 20, 2012, 11:45:13 PM
Grats rams.
Hopefull geno didnt have the same luck and the box of kittens lives to know another day
Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk 2
haven't got one yet, but the season is ramping up for me. just curious if anyone else on the board has filled a tag yet.
Post by: sys on October 21, 2012, 12:20:05 AM
Post by: Bloodfart on October 21, 2012, 01:33:11 AM
i want to shoot a pig, but don't have a good place to go.
I shoot on average 3 pigs a year. One shot one kill. Quick and pain less.
Post by: Bloodfart on October 21, 2012, 01:36:00 AM
Post by: Cire on October 21, 2012, 05:39:30 PM
Plus killed the crap out of dove this season. It was glorious.
Explain this tradition to a non hunter
Post by: steve dave on October 21, 2012, 05:48:38 PM
Post by: Bloodfart on October 21, 2012, 07:37:51 PM
I get up before sunrise and drive to my brother's house and eat some breakfast. Usually breakfast burritos stuffed with eggs, sausage, green peppers, onions, and cheese. :lick: Then drive :driving: to the area I have been observing flight patterns over the last few weeks. Get our gear out and set up in a long firing line with who ever else is there. I like to sit my motorized dove and several decoys a few yards in front of me. Then we sit quietly in the twilight. You will usually see several groups of dove flying around before sunrise but you can't shoot. It's very peaceful till that sun comes. We will shoot till the birds stop flying. Usually congratulating eachother when there is a good shot or shunning someone who empties their gun at a bird only to watch said bird fly away. Usually around 10 or 11a.m. we will go to dad's house to clean all the birds and eat them for lunch. There are quite a few of us bloodfarts so there is plenty of convo going on the entire time. I love it.Plus killed the crap out of dove this season. It was glorious.
Explain this tradition to a non hunter
Post by: Rams on October 22, 2012, 08:56:27 AM
I get up before sunrise and drive to my brother's house and eat some breakfast. Usually breakfast burritos stuffed with eggs, sausage, green peppers, onions, and cheese. :lick: Then drive :driving: to the area I have been observing flight patterns over the last few weeks. Get our gear out and set up in a long firing line with who ever else is there. I like to sit my motorized dove and several decoys a few yards in front of me. Then we sit quietly in the twilight. You will usually see several groups of dove flying around before sunrise but you can't shoot. It's very peaceful till that sun comes. We will shoot till the birds stop flying. Usually congratulating eachother when there is a good shot or shunning someone who empties their gun at a bird only to watch said bird fly away. Usually around 10 or 11a.m. we will go to dad's house to clean all the birds and eat them for lunch. There are quite a few of us bloodfarts so there is plenty of convo going on the entire time. I love it.Plus killed the crap out of dove this season. It was glorious.
Explain this tradition to a non hunter
:thumbs: sounds like an amazing time
Post by: Rams on October 22, 2012, 08:56:52 AM
Hunters are weird
no you
Post by: SdK on October 22, 2012, 12:57:09 PM
#teamanimals
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 22, 2012, 02:12:41 PM
Hunters are weird
So are animals. It's a weird showdown in the woods.
Post by: SwiftCat on October 22, 2012, 02:27:35 PM
Post by: jtksu on October 22, 2012, 02:44:13 PM
My buddy and I shot clay pigeons on Sunday. It was fun.
Yeah, clay shooting is fun. More difficult than I would have thought though. I'm not al that big on hunting but I enjoy shooting so clays are a nice tradeoff for me.
Post by: The1BigWillie on October 22, 2012, 04:58:56 PM
I get up before sunrise and drive to my brother's house and eat some breakfast. Usually breakfast burritos stuffed with eggs, sausage, green peppers, onions, and cheese. :lick: Then drive :driving: to the area I have been observing flight patterns over the last few weeks. Get our gear out and set up in a long firing line with who ever else is there. I like to sit my motorized dove and several decoys a few yards in front of me. Then we sit quietly in the twilight. You will usually see several groups of dove flying around before sunrise but you can't shoot. It's very peaceful till that sun comes. We will shoot till the birds stop flying. Usually congratulating eachother when there is a good shot or shunning someone who empties their gun at a bird only to watch said bird fly away. Usually around 10 or 11a.m. we will go to dad's house to clean all the birds and eat them for lunch. There are quite a few of us bloodfarts so there is plenty of convo going on the entire time. I love it.Plus killed the crap out of dove this season. It was glorious.
Explain this tradition to a non hunter
I would have slammed a couple bloody marys after that breakfast and gone back to sleep until Gameday started.
Post by: RickRampus on October 23, 2012, 09:18:47 AM
Post by: slobber on October 23, 2012, 09:21:23 AM
I like predator calling, does anybody else like predator calling? By predator I mean coyotes and bobcats in Kansas.Been a while, but "WHAAAAA, WHAAAAAA, WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA." repeat :cheers:
Post by: Bloodfart on October 23, 2012, 10:39:33 AM
:thumbs:Hunters are weird
So are animals. It's a weird showdown in the woods.
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 23, 2012, 02:12:35 PM
I like predator calling, does anybody else like predator calling? By predator I mean coyotes and bobcats in Kansas.
Let's talk more Rick Rampus. With the birds so down this year I intend on spending more time calling 'yotes and 'cats. You usually go like "out west" somewhere or like "close to Kansas City" ?
Post by: RickRampus on October 23, 2012, 04:32:48 PM
I like predator calling, does anybody else like predator calling? By predator I mean coyotes and bobcats in Kansas.
Let's talk more Rick Rampus. With the birds so down this year I intend on spending more time calling 'yotes and 'cats. You usually go like "out west" somewhere or like "close to Kansas City" ?
I'm originally from a little town 45 minutes west of the Happiest Place on Earth, but now live in SWKS so I'm not sure on how to hunt them out here, completely different style.
Back home, we will usually have 2-3 guys, the more you have the poorer hunting experience you will have predator hunting. If we have 3 guys, 1 calls, 1 has a rifle and the other a shotgun. Sometimes the little buggars can get on top of you so fast you can't get a rifle scope on them in time, hence shotty. Most times we will set up the rifle guy with the most open area to cover. Your caller should be away from the rifle guy and closest to the shotgun runner. We mostly hunt hedgerows and fencelines, pretty much anywhere we can get hidden and see them coming for awhile. I only use Verminator predator calls, partially because I know the guy that makes them, partially because they are awesome and easy to use. If you don't mind some redneckian humor and dialect, check out the Verminator video's.
What do you like to do emo? Electronic call? Rifle? I'm curious because I think everybody has their own methods.
Post by: 8manpick on October 23, 2012, 05:22:35 PM
Post by: mocat on October 23, 2012, 05:51:14 PM
There are quite a few of us bloodfarts so there is plenty of convo going on the entire time.
This part was my favorite
Post by: Bloodfart on October 23, 2012, 06:25:25 PM
Well it's true mocat.There are quite a few of us bloodfarts so there is plenty of convo going on the entire time.
This part was my favorite
Post by: wetwillie on October 23, 2012, 06:56:07 PM
Post by: jtksu on October 23, 2012, 09:26:03 PM
Post by: kim carnes on October 23, 2012, 10:30:41 PM
I was actually thinking about trying turkey hunting sometime. I watched a special on turkey and supposedly wild turkey is like a million times more delicious.
lol, no
Post by: jtksu on October 23, 2012, 10:48:51 PM
I was actually thinking about trying turkey hunting sometime. I watched a special on turkey and supposedly wild turkey is like a million times more delicious.
lol, no
Way more delicious it is!
Post by: Bloodfart on October 23, 2012, 11:21:31 PM
No it just has more little tiny spiney things (tendons?) running through the meat. LWTAIQ It makes it harder to eat but other than that it tastes the same.I was actually thinking about trying turkey hunting sometime. I watched a special on turkey and supposedly wild turkey is like a million times more delicious.
lol, no
Way more delicious it is!
Post by: jtksu on October 23, 2012, 11:51:54 PM
No it just has more little tiny spiney things (tendons?) running through the meat. LWTAIQ It makes it harder to eat but other than that it tastes the same.I was actually thinking about trying turkey hunting sometime. I watched a special on turkey and supposedly wild turkey is like a million times more delicious.
lol, no
Way more delicious it is!
The main difference they referred to was the higher concentration of fast twitch muscles in WTs. Domestic turkeys (especially toms) are like 90% white meat. The hens (which make up the vast majority of whole bird sales) have a bit more dark meat but still aren't the same as wild birds. They said the toms average over 80lbs! Interesting stuff. I know i like pheasant better than the Thanksgiving turkey...
Post by: Asteriskhead on October 24, 2012, 04:25:53 AM
Eating wild turkey is an adventure. It tastes wonderful, but you have to be cautious while eating it. It's not fun to bite down on a BB. That's all I've got.
Post by: Rams on October 24, 2012, 07:05:45 AM
actually he's right. wild turkey is tough as crap. you basically have to make soup with it.I was actually thinking about trying turkey hunting sometime. I watched a special on turkey and supposedly wild turkey is like a million times more delicious.
lol, no
Way more delicious it is!
btw...in my tree stand right now :dance:
Post by: CNS on October 24, 2012, 07:35:16 AM
Tree stands w 4g are the absolute best. Going this wkndactually he's right. wild turkey is tough as crap. you basically have to make soup with it.I was actually thinking about trying turkey hunting sometime. I watched a special on turkey and supposedly wild turkey is like a million times more delicious.
lol, no
Way more delicious it is!
btw...in my tree stand right now :dance:
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Post by: EMAWican on October 24, 2012, 09:13:04 AM
Spring Turkey season is my favorite, as I really enjoy calling them in.
Eating wild turkey is an adventure. It tastes wonderful, but you have to be cautious while eating it. It's not fun to bite down on a BB. That's all I've got.
:sdeek: An adventure with BBs in a turkey breast? Never heard that one before.
Quail is the most hazardous to eat. Those darn 8 shot BBs in a delicious meat :shakesfist:
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 24, 2012, 10:10:43 AM
I like predator calling, does anybody else like predator calling? By predator I mean coyotes and bobcats in Kansas.
Let's talk more Rick Rampus. With the birds so down this year I intend on spending more time calling 'yotes and 'cats. You usually go like "out west" somewhere or like "close to Kansas City" ?
I'm originally from a little town 45 minutes west of the Happiest Place on Earth, but now live in SWKS so I'm not sure on how to hunt them out here, completely different style.
Back home, we will usually have 2-3 guys, the more you have the poorer hunting experience you will have predator hunting. If we have 3 guys, 1 calls, 1 has a rifle and the other a shotgun. Sometimes the little buggars can get on top of you so fast you can't get a rifle scope on them in time, hence shotty. Most times we will set up the rifle guy with the most open area to cover. Your caller should be away from the rifle guy and closest to the shotgun runner. We mostly hunt hedgerows and fencelines, pretty much anywhere we can get hidden and see them coming for awhile. I only use Verminator predator calls, partially because I know the guy that makes them, partially because they are awesome and easy to use. If you don't mind some redneckian humor and dialect, check out the Verminator video's.
What do you like to do emo? Electronic call? Rifle? I'm curious because I think everybody has their own methods.
I've only been calling a few times, never had one come in (although did see some fresh tracks inside a tree line on a walk out one time). I made my own e-caller:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net%2Fhphotos-ash3%2F182756_836356587701_964518_n.jpg&hash=0d152afe26191dafb7a9740273fd6837a9871b30)
It's basically a marine grade speaker in a Quik Trip mug, painted tan. I have an amplifier that I plug a Blue Tooth module into, then I just play the tracks from my cell phone. I've got a .223 and a 12ga. Hope to be learning a lot this fall.
We called some on the Cimarron two years ago, didn't see anything but looks like great country to call in.
Post by: Rams on October 24, 2012, 10:38:54 AM
I like predator calling, does anybody else like predator calling? By predator I mean coyotes and bobcats in Kansas.
Let's talk more Rick Rampus. With the birds so down this year I intend on spending more time calling 'yotes and 'cats. You usually go like "out west" somewhere or like "close to Kansas City" ?
I'm originally from a little town 45 minutes west of the Happiest Place on Earth, but now live in SWKS so I'm not sure on how to hunt them out here, completely different style.
Back home, we will usually have 2-3 guys, the more you have the poorer hunting experience you will have predator hunting. If we have 3 guys, 1 calls, 1 has a rifle and the other a shotgun. Sometimes the little buggars can get on top of you so fast you can't get a rifle scope on them in time, hence shotty. Most times we will set up the rifle guy with the most open area to cover. Your caller should be away from the rifle guy and closest to the shotgun runner. We mostly hunt hedgerows and fencelines, pretty much anywhere we can get hidden and see them coming for awhile. I only use Verminator predator calls, partially because I know the guy that makes them, partially because they are awesome and easy to use. If you don't mind some redneckian humor and dialect, check out the Verminator video's.
What do you like to do emo? Electronic call? Rifle? I'm curious because I think everybody has their own methods.
I've only been calling a few times, never had one come in (although did see some fresh tracks inside a tree line on a walk out one time). I made my own e-caller:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net%2Fhphotos-ash3%2F182756_836356587701_964518_n.jpg&hash=0d152afe26191dafb7a9740273fd6837a9871b30)
It's basically a marine grade speaker in a Quik Trip mug, painted tan. I have an amplifier that I plug a Blue Tooth module into, then I just play the tracks from my cell phone. I've got a .223 and a 12ga. Hope to be learning a lot this fall.
We called some on the Cimarron two years ago, didn't see anything but looks like great country to call in.
holy crap
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Post by: CNS on October 24, 2012, 11:44:29 AM
Post by: sys on October 24, 2012, 11:49:00 AM
They said the toms average over 80lbs! Interesting stuff.
i think they may have been talking about adolescent black bears, not turkeys.
Post by: Rams on October 24, 2012, 12:12:33 PM
They said the toms average over 80lbs! Interesting stuff.
i think they may have been talking about adolescent black bears, not turkeys.
lol
Post by: Bloodfart on October 24, 2012, 11:19:08 PM
I used to work with a guy that trapped various small animals. His catches included mostly raccoons, skunks, and occationally wildcats. He sold the skins to some person in one of the Dakotas. His truck always had a horrid smell so we made him park in a far corner of the parking lot at work. He also picked up fresh road kill that he came upon.
I went with him one time to check his traps and was amazed. When we got to his trapping area he pulls out a pistol and a club. I asked him what the club was for and he said "fuckin' pelt guy doesn't appreciate holes in the hide." We checked about 30 traps that day and I witnessed some pretty brutal stuff. He was quick about it but still.
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 25, 2012, 09:28:05 AM
Post by: Rams on October 25, 2012, 09:43:10 AM
a guy in town bought the hides. can confirm the retched stink.
Post by: The1BigWillie on October 25, 2012, 09:51:55 AM
a friend of mine used to trap in high school and I would go with him in the morning to check traps. only caught coons and coyotes. nothing more mumped up than seeing a coyote being bludgeoned to death with a billy club. :sdeek:
Would make an incredible YouTube to send to PETA to take some pressure off of our mis-treatement of chickens.
Post by: Bloodfart on October 25, 2012, 10:51:09 PM
My step brother brought his friend home with him from Manhattan. He (military vet :cool:) wanted to help us kill pigs for butchering. We moved one pig into the holding pen, put it down, and bled it out. Stepbro's friend ran to the house :runaway: and didn't come back. We finished up the third pig and went inside to clean up. He was in the kitchen by himself drinking a glass of water just staring :eek: out the window. Dad asked him if he was alright and he said "I have never seen anything so barbaric in all my life."
Post by: sys on October 25, 2012, 10:55:03 PM
I'm not sure sys is ready for what killing a pig entails. :dunno:
i don't want to kill one in hand to hand combat. i want to shoot one at a distance with a rifle. it will entail the same thing that shooting a deer entails, but it will taste different.
Post by: kim carnes on October 25, 2012, 11:00:51 PM
Post by: Bloodfart on October 25, 2012, 11:04:42 PM
I'm not sure sys is ready for what killing a pig entails. :dunno:
i don't want to kill one in hand to hand combat. i want to shoot one at a distance with a rifle. it will entail the same thing that shooting a deer entails, but it will taste different.
It won't taste right if you don't bleed it out. The meat will get bloodshot and you will not be able to store it for any amount of time.
Post by: yoga-like_abana on October 25, 2012, 11:56:01 PM
Post by: felix rex on October 26, 2012, 04:48:13 AM
Post by: CNS on October 26, 2012, 07:50:12 AM
I'm not sure sys is ready for what killing a pig entails. :dunno:
i don't want to kill one in hand to hand combat. i want to shoot one at a distance with a rifle. it will entail the same thing that shooting a deer entails, but it will taste different.
Can confirm. Is delish
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Post by: WillieWatanabe on October 26, 2012, 07:51:16 AM
Post by: steve dave on October 26, 2012, 07:55:08 AM
Post by: TheCatFanSpeaks on October 26, 2012, 09:02:49 AM
I watched a midget decapitate a steer because religion this morning.
:horrorsurprise:
Post by: The1BigWillie on October 26, 2012, 09:19:47 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 26, 2012, 09:55:27 AM
I'm not sure sys is ready for what killing a pig entails. :dunno:
i don't want to kill one in hand to hand combat. i want to shoot one at a distance with a rifle. it will entail the same thing that shooting a deer entails, but it will taste different.
You're the one in Cali right? I have a colleague in Fresberg that shoots pigs all the time. Also a family friend in Vacaville shot a huge one with a bow. Basically there are opportunities for you to kill a pig if you go out into the world and seek them.
Post by: Rams on October 26, 2012, 12:35:33 PM
I watched a midget decapitate a steer because religion this morning. It was okay but wasn't able to BBS as much as I'd like.
amazing post
Post by: sys on October 26, 2012, 01:49:57 PM
You're the one in Cali right? I have a colleague in Fresberg that shoots pigs all the time. Also a family friend in Vacaville shot a huge one with a bow. Basically there are opportunities for you to kill a pig if you go out into the world and seek them.
have your colleague in fresberg email me to tell me where to go and if landowner permission is needed, to extend access to the mentioned land.
Post by: Rams on October 29, 2012, 08:58:17 PM
You're the one in Cali right? I have a colleague in Fresberg that shoots pigs all the time. Also a family friend in Vacaville shot a huge one with a bow. Basically there are opportunities for you to kill a pig if you go out into the world and seek them.
have your colleague in fresberg email me to tell me where to go and if landowner permission is needed, to extend access to the mentioned land.
also they need you in texas http://news.yahoo.com/video/wild-pigs-wrecking-havoc-texas-153331676.html (http://news.yahoo.com/video/wild-pigs-wrecking-havoc-texas-153331676.html)
Post by: RickRampus on October 30, 2012, 08:21:14 AM
Post by: Asteriskhead on November 05, 2012, 01:43:24 AM
I've been out the last three days. I haven't seen anything worth shooting, or had anything in range. I've got tomorrow off, but it looks like I'll be spending it studying, instead of in the stand.
Post by: jtksu on November 05, 2012, 02:04:03 AM
Bowhunters, any luck yet this season?
I've been out the last three days. I haven't seen anything worth shooting, or had anything in range. I've got tomorrow off, but it looks like I'll be spending it studying, instead of in the stand.
My mom tagged a good sized buck a couple days ago with her Taurus. Her Ford Taurus.
Post by: steve dave on November 05, 2012, 07:03:51 AM
Post by: Rams on November 05, 2012, 08:38:07 AM
Bowhunters, any luck yet this season?
I've been out the last three days. I haven't seen anything worth shooting, or had anything in range. I've got tomorrow off, but it looks like I'll be spending it studying, instead of in the stand.
passed on a decent 5x5 yesterday. if it were december I would've taken him. walked right into my stand, stood broadside to me about 15 yards away and stood there staring in the other direction. I won't get another shot that easy/perfect all year.
they're still in seeking mode. that should turn to chasing this week and next week they'll be in full rut.
Post by: Pexikan on November 05, 2012, 12:08:20 PM
Post by: pissclams on November 05, 2012, 12:40:29 PM
Post by: Rams on November 05, 2012, 01:31:59 PM
oh boy fellas, guess who has a bad case of buck fever? that's right, your old pal pissclams. can't wait to get my first buck of the year, hopefully my buck fever begins to settle down a bit, who knows though maybe it will just get worse? the best case scenario is i go full bore buck fever for a month or so then revert back to just regular, non-buck fever. i have a few buds that came down with it while we were in colorado for a ksu cats-colorado football game. you want to talk about a long drive home? i don't because it was horrible, but that's the case a lot of times with full bore buck fever.'clams post
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 05, 2012, 01:34:53 PM
Not the least bit interested in hunting deer or any other big game, and I want have any part of the redneck big game hunting they do out this way.
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 05, 2012, 01:40:55 PM
Post by: Rams on November 05, 2012, 02:57:31 PM
I have only hunted and am only interested in hunting upland birds. I used to hunt waterfowl but lost interest and have no interest in being interested in it again. Not really that interested in hunting anything else besides maybe turkey (wild) hunting.I'm glad we cleared that up
Not the least bit interested in hunting deer or any other big game, and I want have any part of the redneck big game hunting they do out this way.
Post by: 8manpick on November 05, 2012, 03:17:40 PM
I have only hunted and am only interested in hunting upland birds. I used to hunt waterfowl but lost interest and have no interest in being interested in it again. Not really that interested in hunting anything else besides maybe turkey (wild) hunting.
Not the least bit interested in hunting deer or any other big game, and I won't have any part of the redneck big game hunting they do out this way.
Me too! :D
Post by: Bloodfart on November 05, 2012, 06:27:29 PM
Me three! :DI have only hunted and am only interested in hunting upland birds. I used to hunt waterfowl but lost interest and have no interest in being interested in it again. Not really that interested in hunting anything else besides maybe turkey (wild) hunting.
Not the least bit interested in hunting deer or any other big game, and I won't have any part of the redneck big game hunting they do out this way.
Me too! :D
Post by: RickRampus on November 06, 2012, 08:48:11 AM
Post by: 8manpick on November 06, 2012, 09:25:53 AM
Upland Bird Hunters, what is your weapon of choice? This message has zero relevance for waterfowl hunters because I do not care about your shotguns that can shoot 3 1/2 inch shells.
12 ga. over under. Don't really like having more than two shells, cause then I just end up wasting shots with the first couple. Usually shoot #6 shot, I think 3" shells, but not really sure.
Post by: pissclams on November 06, 2012, 09:34:58 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 06, 2012, 01:39:32 PM
i prefer a o/u 20 to a 12 for upland game, should be light enough to carry around all day also. probably prefer the look of the 20 sxs.
+1
Right now I'm in a SKB 505 in 20ga most of the time. The old lady is buying me a light & fast Spanish sxs (AyA or Grulla) in the next year or two.
Post by: steve dave on November 06, 2012, 01:42:00 PM
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Post by: Bloodfart on November 06, 2012, 02:35:51 PM
Post by: steve dave on November 06, 2012, 02:38:44 PM
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Post by: steve dave on November 06, 2012, 02:41:00 PM
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Post by: pissclams on November 06, 2012, 02:41:32 PM
Post by: steve dave on November 06, 2012, 02:42:36 PM
^not a real flamethrower
literally billions of well done pheasants will argue that with you
Post by: steve dave on November 06, 2012, 02:46:52 PM
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Post by: Bloodfart on November 06, 2012, 02:51:29 PM
Post by: RickRampus on November 06, 2012, 03:37:44 PM
gun from predator that jesse ventura went rough ridin' nuts with
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rough ridin' Kansas Full Auto Laws :shakesfist: :shakesfist:
Post by: Bloodfart on November 06, 2012, 04:07:34 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 07, 2012, 12:29:27 AM
I filled my buck tag first day this year. got a 18 point typical mulie. here's an actual picture of me right before the head shot. got him at 800 yards with my shoulder launched stinger missle four pack:
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The law says you have to wear blaze orange, cockface.
Post by: sys on November 07, 2012, 12:52:22 AM
Post by: Rams on November 07, 2012, 08:35:22 AM
also, if you're a bowhunter, get in the woods. the chasing phase has officially begun. and be careful on the roads out there everybody.
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Post by: steve dave on November 07, 2012, 08:41:23 AM
Post by: Rams on November 07, 2012, 08:45:44 AM
Post by: steve dave on November 07, 2012, 08:46:43 AM
stop being a dick, sd. he's my friend now. he agrees to keep being adorable by being oblivious and scratching his ear with his hind leg like a dog and I agree to feed him and not kill him and stuff.
huge anti-gun libtard puss ^
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 07, 2012, 09:50:31 AM
stop being a dick, sd. he's my friend now. he agrees to keep being adorable by being oblivious and scratching his ear with his hind leg like a dog and I agree to feed him and not kill him and stuff.
huge anti-gun libtard puss ^
also (I'm too stupid to find a better word than gay)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 07, 2012, 10:02:30 AM
Post by: CNS on November 07, 2012, 10:13:27 AM
Post by: Rams on November 07, 2012, 10:21:01 AM
I have three v. large bucks at my feeders every night, but it is always about 30 min after dark. Need them to move the f up.most of the mature ones are pretty much done eating for the next week or so, so that shouldn't be a problem.
Post by: puniraptor on November 07, 2012, 10:39:26 AM
Post by: pissclams on November 07, 2012, 12:22:12 PM
I have three v. large bucks at my feeders every night, but it is always about 30 min after dark. Need them to move the f up.most of the mature ones are pretty much done eating for the next week or so, so that shouldn't be a problem.
'cause they're ready to bone! who's with me? BUCK FEVER!
Post by: Bloodfart on November 07, 2012, 12:41:27 PM
Post by: HELLHAMMER on November 07, 2012, 07:28:57 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 07, 2012, 07:50:41 PM
I have three v. large bucks at my feeders every night, but it is always about 30 min after dark. Need them to move the f up.
Pretty sure sd would recommend that you pop some flares next time they show, bust them with claymores.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 18, 2012, 08:52:00 PM
Post by: kim carnes on November 18, 2012, 08:55:50 PM
I killed a rabbit today while chopping corn stalks. Didn't feel bad about it either.
cool story :flush:
Post by: wetwillie on November 18, 2012, 09:07:52 PM
Just finished meal of pheasant and quail I killed myself
Mushroom cream sauce?
Post by: sys on November 19, 2012, 11:14:36 PM
:lick:
Post by: steve dave on November 20, 2012, 07:19:19 AM
Post by: Rams on November 20, 2012, 07:44:09 AM
just got a protip on the location of some wild pigs. just need to find some nearby public land and i'm in business.grats sys! keep us updated and take lots of pictures. what's the weapon of choice? :D
:lick:
Post by: bubbles4ksu on November 20, 2012, 07:47:38 AM
Post by: Rams on November 20, 2012, 08:05:33 AM
Will a .22 bullet break the water from an angle less than 45 degrees or does the carp need to be exposed?don't be a pussy
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Post by: bubbles4ksu on November 20, 2012, 08:42:30 AM
Will a .22 bullet break the water from an angle less than 45 degrees or does the carp need to be exposed?don't be a pussy
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I don't have a bow and will be shooting into 6 inches of running water that used to be a river.
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 20, 2012, 10:38:12 AM
Will a .22 bullet break the water from an angle less than 45 degrees or does the carp need to be exposed?
DO NOT use hollow points, they will ricochet for sure. Use the ones with the round noses. They should penetrate the water.
Post by: RickRampus on November 20, 2012, 10:45:41 AM
Will a .22 bullet break the water from an angle less than 45 degrees or does the carp need to be exposed?don't be a pussy
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I don't have a bow and will be shooting into 6 inches of running water that used to be a river.
fashion a spear
Post by: bubbles4ksu on November 20, 2012, 11:28:49 AM
DO NOT use hollow points, they will ricochet for sure. Use the ones with the round noses. They should penetrate the water.
:thumbs:
fashion a spear
would be fun, but i have 25 and 30 round clips for my 10/.22 and i haven't shot for a year.
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 29, 2012, 08:20:45 AM
Post by: Rams on November 29, 2012, 08:36:57 AM
Any deer reports? How's the rut coming along?rut's pretty much over. I've seen a ton of deer but no monsters. passed up on decentish 10 point a couple weeks ago. walked right up 15 yards from my stand and turned broadside away from me and just stood there. probably the easiest and cleanest look I've ever had at a buck. I would've taken him later in the year but it was right in the middle of rut and I was waiting for something bigger.
anyway, rifle season started yesterday so I'm done for the next couple of weeks. :frown:
Post by: WillieWatanabe on November 29, 2012, 08:38:10 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 29, 2012, 09:01:37 AM
Post by: Rams on November 29, 2012, 09:22:59 AM
Are they moving much? Out of town for work this week ( :curse:) and I won't get to hunt until Sunday night. Hopefully work remotely all of next week and spend mornings and evenings in the stand.well...peak rut is obviously over but they're still moving. they're getting more cautious again, but if you're hunting rifle (cheating) you should still be able to get a shot. rut was (is?) weird this year. very hit and miss.
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 29, 2012, 09:47:14 AM
Post by: Pexikan on November 29, 2012, 03:16:11 PM
Post by: Fedor on November 29, 2012, 03:35:39 PM
Post by: The1BigWillie on November 29, 2012, 04:01:57 PM
Post by: puniraptor on November 29, 2012, 05:04:09 PM
Post by: kim carnes on November 29, 2012, 06:27:43 PM
My Grandpa has finished his Mountain Lion trap. He's going to use a live duck as bait. So really he'll be killing two animals. Super cool. Once he catchs it he's going to blow its brains out with a .22. He'll probably have to shoot it ten times.
:flush:
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 09, 2013, 12:31:49 PM
Post by: RickRampus on January 09, 2013, 12:56:57 PM
Post by: steve dave on January 09, 2013, 01:04:09 PM
Post by: sys on January 09, 2013, 01:08:43 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 09, 2013, 01:11:18 PM
what are you farming that a coyote is killing? like, guinea pigs?
My prized turkey flock.
Post by: steve dave on January 09, 2013, 01:12:14 PM
what are you farming that a coyote is killing? like, guinea pigs?
My prized turkey flock.
an adult turkey would destroy a coyote
Post by: RickRampus on January 09, 2013, 01:15:12 PM
what are you farming that a coyote is killing? like, guinea pigs?
sheep, c'mon sd we've been over this
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 09, 2013, 01:18:27 PM
what are you farming that a coyote is killing? like, guinea pigs?
My prized turkey flock.
an adult turkey would destroy a coyote
Not one that has been raised to be loving and trusting, sd.
He just wanted to play. :bawl:
Post by: ChiComCat on January 09, 2013, 01:25:00 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 09, 2013, 02:08:42 PM
i think shooting coyotes is weird and mean. i loved killing them with greyhounds with my grandfather, though. pretty hypocritical of me. a lot of the things i love doing are really cruel to one animal or another, but i love animals. it's weird.
I pretty much agree sys. As she was coming in closer and closer I had hesitations about shooting her. But you see I had done all this work and wanted to know how it felt so I shot her. I felt weird looking at her all warm and dead, especially since I have two dogs that I really like. Would love to chase them down with 'hounds some day, sounds like fun.
Post by: XocolateThundarr on January 09, 2013, 02:16:18 PM
Post by: steve dave on January 09, 2013, 02:17:43 PM
Coyotes will take down newborn calves. Always good to have the AR with you this time of year.
lol, bullshit. you have to have some kind of pud cow to let that happen. I've always known this was an excuse for cow farmers to get their jollys by shooting small dogs.
Post by: XocolateThundarr on January 09, 2013, 02:19:17 PM
Coyotes will take down newborn calves. Always good to have the AR with you this time of year.
lol, bullshit. you have to have some kind of pud cow to let that happen.
Sometimes momma is a Jersey Shore parent and doesn't take care of her little one.
Post by: sys on January 10, 2013, 12:33:12 AM
I pretty much agree sys. As she was coming in closer and closer I had hesitations about shooting her. But you see I had done all this work and wanted to know how it felt so I shot her. I felt weird looking at her all warm and dead, especially since I have two dogs that I really like. Would love to chase them down with 'hounds some day, sounds like fun.
yep, i know the feeling. would have done the same, you have to finish what you start.
it's super fun. the dogs are so happy to be killing their little cousins, it's infectious. also they're really fast and beautiful when they run.
Post by: bones129 on January 10, 2013, 01:08:01 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coyote
I may develop a coyote emoticon. But coyotes will never surpass Wildcats.
Post by: jtksu on January 10, 2013, 01:52:46 AM
i think shooting coyotes is weird and mean. i loved killing them with greyhounds with my grandfather, though. pretty hypocritical of me. a lot of the things i love doing are really cruel to one animal or another, but i love animals. it's weird.
The cool thing about using grayhounds to hunt 'yotes is there's a decent chance those dogs will just keep on running if they don't find a coyote.
Post by: kitten_mittons on January 10, 2013, 06:07:44 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 10, 2013, 08:42:41 AM
Post by: puniraptor on January 10, 2013, 08:50:15 AM
...But what if they are just coming over to help? :frown:
Post by: Institutional Control on January 10, 2013, 08:51:13 AM
Post by: steve dave on January 10, 2013, 09:03:00 AM
Post by: Bloodfart on January 10, 2013, 09:15:08 AM
Then dad's dogs join in and the coyotes go silent. It's like they are trolling the dogs. Hey dogs we're having a party wanna join in nope sorry you're not invited. Ha you really thought we wanted you to join the party now you just sound stupid howling by yourselves.
Post by: RickRampus on January 10, 2013, 09:17:48 AM
I think it's terrifying that the sound of a crying human baby lures them in. I was against killing them until after I read that.
...But what if they are just coming over to help? :frown:
I've read somewhere that the coyote is lured in more out or curiosity of the noise rather than wanting to eat the noise, fwiw
Post by: pissclams on January 10, 2013, 09:37:09 AM
this dumbass coyote was running and ran right into the railing and jammed his head in between the vertical spindles and couldn't get it out.
there was blood and stuff but no matter how hard he tried to get his head unjammed, he was stuck. felt bad for him. he was just looking around at stuff being scared.
animal control came and took him away (not sure how, i went to lunch).
Post by: Institutional Control on January 10, 2013, 09:40:05 AM
one time i was in my office park and there was this railing outside, along the side of a sidewalk.
this dumbass coyote was running and ran right into the railing and jammed his head in between the vertical spindles and couldn't get it out.
there was blood and stuff but no matter how hard he tried to get his head unjammed, he was stuck. felt bad for him. he was just looking around at stuff being scared.
animal control came and took him away (not sure how, i went to lunch).
They probably cut his head off.
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 10, 2013, 10:19:59 AM
Post by: pissclams on January 10, 2013, 10:20:55 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 10, 2013, 10:22:06 AM
i do a pretty good crow impression.
Record and post to youtube or something? I'm in need of a good crow call.
Post by: Bloodfart on February 19, 2013, 06:22:26 PM
Post by: Bloodfart on March 16, 2013, 11:26:48 PM
Post by: kim carnes on March 16, 2013, 11:28:52 PM
I Killed 3 hogs friday afternoon. Three shots three kills. The Bloodfart family processed about 2000 lbs of meat today.
murderer
Post by: Bloodfart on March 16, 2013, 11:30:31 PM
Post by: kim carnes on March 17, 2013, 12:08:22 AM
Post by: jtksu on March 17, 2013, 12:34:01 AM
I Killed 3 hogs friday afternoon. Three shots three kills. The Bloodfart family processed about 2000 lbs of meat today.
Iike feral hogs or just regular hogs? Either way, I'm jealous cause that's a whole lot of delicious pork.
Post by: star seed 7 on March 17, 2013, 02:16:06 AM
:dunno:
Post by: jtksu on March 17, 2013, 02:27:22 AM
you can buy pork at the store, you don't have to do this yourself.
:dunno:
True but it's cheaper to do it yourself, you can control the animals living conditions before slaughter, choose which cuts of meat you want, what feed the animal eats, etc... It's not for everyone but it's certainly a better way if you are able to do it.
Post by: ChiComCat on March 17, 2013, 12:00:09 PM
you can buy pork at the store, you don't have to do this yourself.
:dunno:
True but it's cheaper to do it yourself, you can control the animals living conditions before slaughter, choose which cuts of meat you want, what feed the animal eats, etc... It's not for everyone but it's certainly a better way if you are able to do it.
If he's bragging about 3 shots, 3 kills then I don't think he is raising them and controlling what they eat. That or he is the worst pig farmer ever.
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on March 17, 2013, 12:10:09 PM
Post by: jtksu on March 17, 2013, 01:19:21 PM
you can buy pork at the store, you don't have to do this yourself.
:dunno:
True but it's cheaper to do it yourself, you can control the animals living conditions before slaughter, choose which cuts of meat you want, what feed the animal eats, etc... It's not for everyone but it's certainly a better way if you are able to do it.
If he's bragging about 3 shots, 3 kills then I don't think he is raising them and controlling what they eat. That or he is the worst pig farmer ever.
Yeah, I asked earlier about if they were domestic or feral hogs. I'll be the first to admit I know little about the butchering of pigs, I thought maybe he was just excited because the animals were killed as humanely as possible. :dunno:
Post by: Bloodfart on March 17, 2013, 04:09:42 PM
We don't kill the cows anymore, just take them to the local locker to have them killed and aged for 5 days in their freezer. When I was little we used to kill the beef in the dead of winter and hang them in the shed because we didn't have a large walk in freezer. Later in the week we made a big fire to heat a huge vat of water to scald the pigs (after killing them) so we could scrape the hair off and save the skins to sell to the locker along with the cow hides. We also rendered the pig lard for cooking so there's that too. I don't miss those days.
Post by: Rams on March 18, 2013, 02:14:15 PM
The pigs were domestic, raised by our neighbor down the road. I shot them once in the head and then stuck them with a long knife down through the neck and into their heart causing them to bleed out very fast. It takes less than 10 secs. Then we hang the animal by it's hind legs and wash it off thoroughly with soap and water. We skin it, gut it, quarter it, and then place it in a freezer. Wash rinse repeat.I probably shouldn't be as jealous about this post as I am. :embarrassed:
We don't kill the cows anymore, just take them to the local locker to have them killed and aged for 5 days in their freezer. When I was little we used to kill the beef in the dead of winter and hang them in the shed because we didn't have a large walk in freezer. Later in the week we made a big fire to heat a huge vat of water to scald the pigs (after killing them) so we could scrape the hair off and save the skins to sell to the locker along with the cow hides. We also rendered the pig lard for cooking so there's that too. I don't miss those days.
Post by: steve dave on March 18, 2013, 02:26:08 PM
The pigs were domestic, raised by our neighbor down the road. I shot them once in the head and then stuck them with a long knife down through the neck and into their heart causing them to bleed out very fast. It takes less than 10 secs. Then we hang the animal by it's hind legs and wash it off thoroughly with soap and water. We skin it, gut it, quarter it, and then place it in a freezer. Wash rinse repeat.
We don't kill the cows anymore, just take them to the local locker to have them killed and aged for 5 days in their freezer. When I was little we used to kill the beef in the dead of winter and hang them in the shed because we didn't have a large walk in freezer. Later in the week we made a big fire to heat a huge vat of water to scald the pigs (after killing them) so we could scrape the hair off and save the skins to sell to the locker along with the cow hides. We also rendered the pig lard for cooking so there's that too. I don't miss those days.
sickening
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 18, 2013, 02:36:15 PM
Post by: pissclams on March 18, 2013, 02:37:27 PM
The pigs were domestic, raised by our neighbor down the road. I shot them once in the head and then stuck them with a long knife down through the neck and into their heart causing them to bleed out very fast. It takes less than 10 secs. Then we hang the animal by it's hind legs and wash it off thoroughly with soap and water. We skin it, gut it, quarter it, and then place it in a freezer. Wash rinse repeat.
We don't kill the cows anymore, just take them to the local locker to have them killed and aged for 5 days in their freezer. When I was little we used to kill the beef in the dead of winter and hang them in the shed because we didn't have a large walk in freezer. Later in the week we made a big fire to heat a huge vat of water to scald the pigs (after killing them) so we could scrape the hair off and save the skins to sell to the locker along with the cow hides. We also rendered the pig lard for cooking so there's that too. I don't miss those days.
the new SOC guy, joe teti, on dual survivor did the knife to neck thing to a feral pig during the hawaii episode. was pretty elite. no gun required.
Post by: Bloodfart on March 18, 2013, 03:07:55 PM
To make amends I also volunteer to be the bunghole remover. That entails cutting around the sphincter and pulling it out just far enough to tie it off with a piece of string then stuff it back down the hole.
Post by: Mr Bread on March 18, 2013, 04:39:58 PM
My dad won't kill animals anymore because he says he's too old and it weighs on his mind too much. The duty fell on my shoulders when no one else would do it. I didn't think it was that big of a deal but sometimes when I'm by myself I think about it.
To make amends I also volunteer to be the bunghole remover. That entails cutting around the sphincter and pulling it out just far enough to tie it off with a piece of string then stuff it back down the hole.
To make amends to the pig you shot and stabbed you eff around with its bad person?
Post by: CNS on March 18, 2013, 04:41:53 PM
Post by: Bloodfart on March 18, 2013, 04:52:24 PM
My dad won't kill animals anymore because he says he's too old and it weighs on his mind too much. The duty fell on my shoulders when no one else would do it. I didn't think it was that big of a deal but sometimes when I'm by myself I think about it.
To make amends I also volunteer to be the bunghole remover. That entails cutting around the sphincter and pulling it out just far enough to tie it off with a piece of string then stuff it back down the hole.
To make amends to the pig you shot and stabbed you eff around with its bad person?
I take it as the pig getting the last laugh. Gas usually belches out into my face while I'm performing the delicate procedure. :dunno:
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 18, 2013, 04:54:51 PM
My dad won't kill animals anymore because he says he's too old and it weighs on his mind too much. The duty fell on my shoulders when no one else would do it. I didn't think it was that big of a deal but sometimes when I'm by myself I think about it.
To make amends I also volunteer to be the bunghole remover. That entails cutting around the sphincter and pulling it out just far enough to tie it off with a piece of string then stuff it back down the hole.
To make amends to the pig you shot and stabbed you eff around with its bad person?
I take it as the pig getting the last laugh. Gas usually belches out into my face while I'm performing the delicate procedure. :dunno:
Is this where Bloodfart comes from?
Post by: Bloodfart on March 18, 2013, 04:56:27 PM
My dad won't kill animals anymore because he says he's too old and it weighs on his mind too much. The duty fell on my shoulders when no one else would do it. I didn't think it was that big of a deal but sometimes when I'm by myself I think about it.
To make amends I also volunteer to be the bunghole remover. That entails cutting around the sphincter and pulling it out just far enough to tie it off with a piece of string then stuff it back down the hole.
To make amends to the pig you shot and stabbed you eff around with its bad person?
I take it as the pig getting the last laugh. Gas usually belches out into my face while I'm performing the delicate procedure. :dunno:
Is this where Bloodfart comes from?
maybe! :surprised:
Post by: Mr Bread on March 18, 2013, 04:58:31 PM
My dad won't kill animals anymore because he says he's too old and it weighs on his mind too much. The duty fell on my shoulders when no one else would do it. I didn't think it was that big of a deal but sometimes when I'm by myself I think about it.
To make amends I also volunteer to be the bunghole remover. That entails cutting around the sphincter and pulling it out just far enough to tie it off with a piece of string then stuff it back down the hole.
To make amends to the pig you shot and stabbed you eff around with its bad person?
I take it as the pig getting the last laugh. Gas usually belches out into my face while I'm performing the delicate procedure. :dunno:
"Murdered" is roughly equivalent to "face farted in" in my book too. I bet the pig is LOLing his ass off up in pig heaven. :lol:
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on March 18, 2013, 05:05:17 PM
Post by: jtksu on March 18, 2013, 08:38:20 PM
If I ran into a group of plastic people that weren't moving and some creature was faking a human's voice to get me to get closer and I got my brains blown out I would say I'm pretty dumb and would be surprised I hadn't died sooner.
If you happen to be delicious, it's win/win.
Post by: ben ji on March 19, 2013, 09:32:36 AM
1 time when I was fishing I caught a large bass(Around 4lbs) but it was hooked in the gills and bleeding like crazy. Released it back in the water but about 5 minutes later it came floating back up.
Use to spend a couple of weeks each summer on the grandparents farm in western ks. I would usually spend half the day walking around the farm with a .22 shooting rabbits. We would feed the dead rabbits to the pigs.
Post by: Rams on August 23, 2013, 09:39:52 PM
just picked this beauty up today and sighted it in.
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Post by: steve dave on August 23, 2013, 09:41:16 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on August 23, 2013, 09:44:47 PM
what on earth
Exercise machine.
Post by: bones129 on August 23, 2013, 09:54:00 PM
:runaway:
Post by: CNS on August 23, 2013, 09:55:08 PM
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Post by: steve dave on August 23, 2013, 10:03:20 PM
Post by: CNS on August 23, 2013, 10:05:49 PM
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Post by: Rams on August 23, 2013, 10:09:33 PM
Looks a lot like the one I bought last yr. Feels weird that it is coming up soon.I've been hunting with this model for the past 15 years
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so yeah...it's a bit of an upgrade.
Post by: Rams on August 23, 2013, 10:12:36 PM
question: if you are going to buy something that elaborate and seemingly highly engineered to shoot an arrow (?) at an animal why don't you just shoot a gun or laser or missile from a remote controlled drone?:facepalm:
Post by: CNS on August 23, 2013, 10:15:43 PM
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Post by: Rams on August 23, 2013, 10:20:04 PM
You are going to love the new.I already do. going to set up my stands in the next week or so.
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what model bow do you have?
Post by: CNS on August 23, 2013, 10:32:15 PM
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Post by: EMAWmeister on November 06, 2013, 12:14:51 AM
Thinking maybe a Benelli Nova?
Post by: 8manpick on November 06, 2013, 12:58:50 AM
This isn't about killing animals necessarily, but I've been thinking about taking up trap shooting as a hobby. What kinda shotgun should I get? Preferably one that is inexpensive, reliable, and most of all, safe.
Thinking maybe a Benelli Nova?
Trap shooting itself can be fairly expensive as far as hobbies go. Shells have gotten fairly expensive, plus range membership, gun, etc. Just fair warning, obviously as a :kstategrad: no big deal.
Post by: nicname on November 06, 2013, 01:20:08 AM
this is srs post. srs.
Post by: slackcat on November 06, 2013, 04:36:19 AM
This isn't about killing animals necessarily, but I've been thinking about taking up trap shooting as a hobby. What kinda shotgun should I get? Preferably one that is inexpensive, reliable, and most of all, safe.
Thinking maybe a Benelli Nova?
Trap shooting itself can be fairly expensive as far as hobbies go. Shells have gotten fairly expensive, plus range membership, gun, etc. Just fair warning, obviously as a :kstategrad: no big deal.
What 8manpick said, cost shouldn't matter. That aside trap shooting is fun. Def go over/under, accept both 2.75 and 3 inch shell.
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 06, 2013, 07:39:57 AM
Post by: ben ji on November 06, 2013, 08:33:03 AM
Since May I have trapped and killed OVER 30 mice in my backyard/side of house using a variety of lures. I started out using peanut butter but have recently switched to Halloween candy, results have been promising.
The mongrel vermin seem to attack in WAVES... I will kill 6-9 mice in a week then the traps will go silent...I stop being vigilant and sure enough 4 weeks later BOOM! I see some lil guyz scampering around by the shed....set up some traps and kill a solid half dozen.
So far we have had only 1 confirmed security breach and that unlucky vermin was dispatched by my final line of defense...a housecat named baby. :D
Post by: sys on November 06, 2013, 08:34:25 AM
Since May I have trapped and killed OVER 30 mice in my backyard/side of house using a variety of lures.
:frown:
Post by: Tobias on November 06, 2013, 08:46:00 AM
Post by: CNS on November 06, 2013, 09:11:29 AM
I don't know how good I would be at hunting but I am an AMAZING trapper.
Since May I have trapped and killed OVER 30 mice in my backyard/side of house using a variety of lures. I started out using peanut butter but have recently switched to Halloween candy, results have been promising.
So you basically just ignored it when I dropped this awesome elite advice months ago....
Post by: ben ji on November 06, 2013, 09:25:40 AM
I don't know how good I would be at hunting but I am an AMAZING trapper.
Since May I have trapped and killed OVER 30 mice in my backyard/side of house using a variety of lures. I started out using peanut butter but have recently switched to Halloween candy, results have been promising.
So you basically just ignored it when I dropped this awesome elite advice months ago....
Nope, bought a snickers bar and it worked great but then I killed all of that wave and never bought another snickers bar.
Post by: wiley on November 06, 2013, 09:58:01 AM
Post by: ben ji on November 06, 2013, 10:26:49 AM
going lion fish hunting in December around Puerto Rico :emawkid:
explain so I don't have to google.
Post by: puniraptor on November 06, 2013, 11:30:35 AM
going lion fish hunting in December around Puerto Rico :emawkid:
explain so I don't have to google.
invasive species with no predators outcompeting everything. only catchable by spear fishing.
sometimes they have bounties and derbys to kill as many as possible.
venomous and also tasty.
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on November 06, 2013, 11:47:11 AM
This isn't about killing animals necessarily, but I've been thinking about taking up trap shooting as a hobby. What kinda shotgun should I get? Preferably one that is inexpensive, reliable, and most of all, safe.
Thinking maybe a Benelli Nova?
Just get a good used 12 GA Remington 870 with a ribbed barrel for around $200 or less to see if you enjoy it.
Post by: wiley on November 06, 2013, 11:48:49 AM
going lion fish hunting in December around Puerto Rico :emawkid:
explain so I don't have to google.
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Post by: slobber on November 06, 2013, 11:49:37 AM
Yes to this. I have an 870 Express. It is a great gun to shoot a few times a year. If you fall in love, then go crazy and spend some extra money.This isn't about killing animals necessarily, but I've been thinking about taking up trap shooting as a hobby. What kinda shotgun should I get? Preferably one that is inexpensive, reliable, and most of all, safe.
Thinking maybe a Benelli Nova?
Just get a good used 12 GA Remington 870 with a ribbed barrel for around $200 or less to see if you enjoy it.
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 06, 2013, 11:56:43 AM
Post by: nicname on November 07, 2013, 12:39:23 AM
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/11/10/world/africa/rhino-extinct-species-report/index.html
Farewell friend.
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Post by: Rams on November 07, 2013, 11:20:24 AM
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Post by: The Big Train on November 07, 2013, 11:26:21 AM
:dance:
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Post by: CNS on November 07, 2013, 11:32:54 AM
Post by: ben ji on November 07, 2013, 11:36:04 AM
My buddy has been going out to his land every Saturday morning doing some bow hunting but has yet to find a deer worth killing.
In other news I killed another mouse last night by the shed. TAKE THAT YOU FILTHY LIL MONGREL!!!
Post by: slobber on November 07, 2013, 11:52:12 AM
Post by: slobber on November 07, 2013, 11:54:30 AM
This makes me sad.
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/11/10/world/africa/rhino-extinct-species-report/index.html
Farewell friend.
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New species are found all of the time, other species are going extinct all of the time. Cycle of life and all, I guess. However, when it is a big majestic animal like that, I agree, it makes me sad.
Post by: CNS on November 07, 2013, 11:57:10 AM
Post by: Rams on November 07, 2013, 01:21:08 PM
:thumbs: Looks pretty thick! Where abouts did that killing take place? I have buds here in NC that dream of hunting in KS. I want to show them those photos and tell them how close it was to where I grew up.according to my estimates on google maps, it was about 200 feet outside lawrence city limits and about 2000 feet south of I-70.
if you really want to make them jealous, show them this picture.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi405.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fpp138%2Fbdr0380%2FIMG951133_zps973d24a7.png&hash=427df8215b3cc47e58a701714b3aed49a62bd789)
I have no idea who that is other than a friend of a friend of mine. I was told it was shot near the end of october somewhere outside of sterling, kansas. apparently it green scored as a pending state record. they have to let it dry before it's official.
Post by: slobber on November 07, 2013, 01:51:25 PM
Wow. So much going on there. I have saved that photo for later!:thumbs: Looks pretty thick! Where abouts did that killing take place? I have buds here in NC that dream of hunting in KS. I want to show them those photos and tell them how close it was to where I grew up.according to my estimates on google maps, it was about 200 feet outside lawrence city limits and about 2000 feet south of I-70.
if you really want to make them jealous, show them this picture.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi405.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fpp138%2Fbdr0380%2FIMG951133_zps973d24a7.png&hash=427df8215b3cc47e58a701714b3aed49a62bd789)
I have no idea who that is other than a friend of a friend of mine. I was told it was shot near the end of october somewhere outside of sterling, kansas. apparently it green scored as a pending state record. they have to let it dry before it's official.
Post by: SEK_EMAW on November 07, 2013, 06:02:57 PM
Post by: Bloodfart on November 08, 2013, 09:33:36 AM
I see you. :excited:
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 08, 2013, 09:56:49 AM
Post by: RickRampus on November 08, 2013, 10:10:41 AM
Post by: 8manpick on November 08, 2013, 10:16:43 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 08, 2013, 10:25:24 AM
NCKS will have birds, count it
The Smokey Hills brood survey indicated a year-over-year decrease of 40 percent. Only 0.17 birds per mile. :frown:
Compare that to the entire state of South Dakota:
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The 2013 report indicates an index of 1.52 pheasants per mile, down from 4.19 pheasants per mile last year.
Post by: Bloodfart on November 08, 2013, 12:54:11 PM
Hey BF where ya headed? Haven't heard many good reports. :frown:
My dad's ground in south east Reno county. Our group will have about 20 guys. We'll walk 3 miles of hedge rows, 2 fifteen acre pastures then hit the milo fields which could last all day if we feel like it.
I can hear the little rascals crowing out there every evening so there's something out there. Hopefully all the moisture this year helped them rebound. :crossfingers:
Post by: RickRampus on November 08, 2013, 02:00:24 PM
500 acres of crp, surronded by alfalfa fields and corn and bean fields. I'm optimisticNCKS will have birds, count it
The Smokey Hills brood survey indicated a year-over-year decrease of 40 percent. Only 0.17 birds per mile. :frown:
Compare that to the entire state of South Dakota:QuoteThe 2013 report indicates an index of 1.52 pheasants per mile, down from 4.19 pheasants per mile last year.
Post by: Bloodfart on November 08, 2013, 02:18:39 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 08, 2013, 02:43:29 PM
Post by: Bloodfart on November 08, 2013, 03:42:56 PM
Hey BF where ya headed? Haven't heard many good reports. :frown:
My dad's ground in south east Reno county. Our group will have about 20 guys. We'll walk 3 miles of hedge rows, 2 fifteen acre pastures then hit the milo fields which could last all day if we feel like it.
I can hear the little rascals crowing out there every evening so there's something out there. Hopefully all the moisture this year helped them rebound. :crossfingers:
Scratch the milo fields. I just got done exhausting all my contacts with the fuckin farmers in tha area. Looks like we will be walking sweet ass water ways and CRP all day! :fatty:
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 11, 2013, 08:56:59 AM
Post by: SEK_EMAW on November 12, 2013, 10:08:29 AM
Pretty sad how far the bird numbers have fallen since 2010.
Post by: TheCatFanSpeaks on November 12, 2013, 10:20:29 AM
Any good reports out there? Had one good report from McPherson, but the guy that told me is typically full of crap, so I don't believe a lot of what he says.
Pretty sad how far the bird numbers have fallen since 2010.
Wife was back visiting her grandparents this weekend, north of Salina, and all reports she heard were that birds were pretty thin again this year. :frown:
Post by: slobber on November 12, 2013, 10:38:01 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 12, 2013, 10:44:12 AM
Anybody here remember bird hunting in the mid to late eighties? My memory says it was frickin' awesome and bird slayings were at an all-time high.
Didn't start hunting till early 2000's, but I remember then a few college kids could walk around without dogs and kill their share. I remember some great years around 2006-2008. I kinda lament taking older people hunting because all they do is talk about how great it used to be. Buncha Nancy Neg's. I've been trying to diversify to get more out of the outdoors in these lean bird years, like deer hunting and calling yotes. Might go on my first proper duck hunt soon.
Post by: CNS on November 12, 2013, 10:53:20 AM
Anybody here remember bird hunting in the mid to late eighties? My memory says it was frickin' awesome and bird slayings were at an all-time high.
Piles and piles. Limiting out was nothing.
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 12, 2013, 10:54:07 AM
Post by: CNS on November 12, 2013, 10:57:11 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 12, 2013, 10:58:32 AM
Post by: CNS on November 12, 2013, 10:58:47 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 12, 2013, 11:04:44 AM
Post by: slobber on November 12, 2013, 11:05:00 AM
Used to go hunting for Pheasant and just happen upon limiting out on quail.YES! We never went pheasant or quail hunting. We went bird hunting! And hunting? More like slaying!
Post by: CNS on November 12, 2013, 11:09:28 AM
"Oh look, those guys just hunted that field"
"Welp, guess we may have to walk this field and one other to get our limit today"
Post by: TheCatFanSpeaks on November 12, 2013, 12:05:32 PM
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Post by: wiley on November 14, 2013, 08:22:40 PM
Post by: Bloodfart on November 14, 2013, 08:30:04 PM
Post by: The Big Train on November 14, 2013, 11:45:51 PM
Walked 6 miles saw 4 birds, 3 cocks and 1 hen. Went home and was cleaning my bird and a lone quail landed in my yard. Went inside and grabbed my BB gun and wasted that sucker. 10 pumps... one kill. :gocho:
STUD!!!
Post by: RickRampus on November 16, 2013, 12:20:23 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 18, 2013, 09:18:44 AM
29 roosters and 4 quail on opening weekend.
Hey that's not bad!
Post by: kslim on November 27, 2013, 08:45:39 AM
Post by: ben ji on December 02, 2013, 11:02:43 AM
I've never been Pheasant hunting before but some of my buds are pretty big into it, may pop my cherry next year.
Regarding KS Hunting licenses....Can you do this online or will I need to go to a 10 hour class?
Post by: Emo EMAW on December 02, 2013, 12:52:51 PM
So I was in Western KS over the holiday and we visited some farmland that my dad will inherit. We were walking around and saw TWO separate groups of Pheasant in about 20 minutes.
I've never been Pheasant hunting before but some of my buds are pretty big into it, may pop my cherry next year.
Regarding KS Hunting licenses....Can you do this online or will I need to go to a 10 hour class?
Have you done any hunter's ed before? You can do it online.
http://www.kdwpt.state.ks.us/news/Services/Education/Hunter/Internet-assisted-Course
Post by: ben ji on December 02, 2013, 12:59:46 PM
So I was in Western KS over the holiday and we visited some farmland that my dad will inherit. We were walking around and saw TWO separate groups of Pheasant in about 20 minutes.
I've never been Pheasant hunting before but some of my buds are pretty big into it, may pop my cherry next year.
Regarding KS Hunting licenses....Can you do this online or will I need to go to a 10 hour class?
Have you done any hunter's ed before? You can do it online.
http://www.kdwpt.state.ks.us/news/Services/Education/Hunter/Internet-assisted-Course
No hunters ed so I will have to take that course emo, thanks!
Quick question for you emo...How much land would I need for Pheasant hunting? The land where we saw the pheasants is 480 acres or 3 quarter sections(as my dad calls them). 2/3 are farmed every year mainly dryland wheat, the other section stays fallow.
Is this enough land for a day of Pheasant hunting?
Post by: Emo EMAW on December 02, 2013, 01:01:10 PM
So I was in Western KS over the holiday and we visited some farmland that my dad will inherit. We were walking around and saw TWO separate groups of Pheasant in about 20 minutes.
I've never been Pheasant hunting before but some of my buds are pretty big into it, may pop my cherry next year.
Regarding KS Hunting licenses....Can you do this online or will I need to go to a 10 hour class?
Have you done any hunter's ed before? You can do it online.
http://www.kdwpt.state.ks.us/news/Services/Education/Hunter/Internet-assisted-Course
No hunters ed so I will have to take that course emo, thanks!
Quick question for you emo...How much land would I need for Pheasant hunting? The land where we saw the pheasants is 480 acres or 3 quarter sections(as my dad calls them). 2/3 are farmed every year mainly dryland wheat, the other section stays fallow.
Is this enough land for a day of Pheasant hunting?
Eh, seems a little shy of what I'd like to hunt, especially if 2 of those quarters are kinda un-huntable. But wherever it is you're probably close to some WIHA's where you can access private ground for free. Also I bet once you talk to the neighbors and stuff you'll have more places.
Post by: ben ji on December 02, 2013, 01:11:34 PM
So I was in Western KS over the holiday and we visited some farmland that my dad will inherit. We were walking around and saw TWO separate groups of Pheasant in about 20 minutes.
I've never been Pheasant hunting before but some of my buds are pretty big into it, may pop my cherry next year.
Regarding KS Hunting licenses....Can you do this online or will I need to go to a 10 hour class?
Have you done any hunter's ed before? You can do it online.
http://www.kdwpt.state.ks.us/news/Services/Education/Hunter/Internet-assisted-Course
No hunters ed so I will have to take that course emo, thanks!
Quick question for you emo...How much land would I need for Pheasant hunting? The land where we saw the pheasants is 480 acres or 3 quarter sections(as my dad calls them). 2/3 are farmed every year mainly dryland wheat, the other section stays fallow.
Is this enough land for a day of Pheasant hunting?
Eh, seems a little shy of what I'd like to hunt, especially if 2 of those quarters are kinda un-huntable. But wherever it is you're probably close to some WIHA's where you can access private ground for free. Also I bet once you talk to the neighbors and stuff you'll have more places.
This land is only about 2 miles from the rest of my grandparents land so I shouldn't have any problem finding more land.
How much area do you normally cover in say a 4hr period?
Post by: Emo EMAW on December 02, 2013, 01:17:56 PM
Post by: Rams on December 03, 2013, 03:18:26 PM
also I'm a terrible rough ridin' shot right now. :embarrassed:
Post by: slobber on December 03, 2013, 04:06:08 PM
Can you find out some more details on this? Based on end of October, it was bow season, correct? What did it score?:thumbs: Looks pretty thick! Where abouts did that killing take place? I have buds here in NC that dream of hunting in KS. I want to show them those photos and tell them how close it was to where I grew up.according to my estimates on google maps, it was about 200 feet outside lawrence city limits and about 2000 feet south of I-70.
if you really want to make them jealous, show them this picture.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi405.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fpp138%2Fbdr0380%2FIMG951133_zps973d24a7.png&hash=427df8215b3cc47e58a701714b3aed49a62bd789)
I have no idea who that is other than a friend of a friend of mine. I was told it was shot near the end of october somewhere outside of sterling, kansas. apparently it green scored as a pending state record. they have to let it dry before it's official.
Post by: _33 on December 03, 2013, 07:43:42 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on December 09, 2013, 09:31:49 AM
One of you hunters please give me a giant ziploc bag full of deer jerky.
Guys I got my first ever deer this weekend! A nice 6 pointer public land buck! Lots of jerky and sausage coming! :lick:
Post by: slobber on December 09, 2013, 09:53:59 AM
RAMS!!!!!!!!!!! :impatient:Can you find out some more details on this? Based on end of October, it was bow season, correct? What did it score?:thumbs: Looks pretty thick! Where abouts did that killing take place? I have buds here in NC that dream of hunting in KS. I want to show them those photos and tell them how close it was to where I grew up.according to my estimates on google maps, it was about 200 feet outside lawrence city limits and about 2000 feet south of I-70.
if you really want to make them jealous, show them this picture.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi405.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fpp138%2Fbdr0380%2FIMG951133_zps973d24a7.png&hash=427df8215b3cc47e58a701714b3aed49a62bd789)
I have no idea who that is other than a friend of a friend of mine. I was told it was shot near the end of october somewhere outside of sterling, kansas. apparently it green scored as a pending state record. they have to let it dry before it's official.
Post by: Rams on December 09, 2013, 10:29:00 PM
RAMS!!!!!!!!!!! :impatient:ok so apparently it's not even close to the state record. it green scored at 238 1/8 and the kansas record for a non-typical is 280 4/8 (:horrorsurprise:) it's gonna crush the rice county record though. also he shot it with a muzzle loader. :rolleyes:
anyway...here's an article:
http://www.outdoorlife.com/blogs/big-buck-zone/2013/11/big-buck-alert-kansas-nontypical-unofficial-scores-238-inches (http://www.outdoorlife.com/blogs/big-buck-zone/2013/11/big-buck-alert-kansas-nontypical-unofficial-scores-238-inches)
Post by: Bloodfart on December 10, 2013, 08:19:13 PM
Had to kill a cow a couple weeks ago. I found she was trying to give birth but not having any success. So I approached her from behind and things did not look right back there. I walked her up to the alleyway and took her to see the vet. Don't know how he figured this out but he said the calf had punched a hole in the cow's uterus and one of her stomachs. (WTF?! OUCH!).
The calf was dead and the cow couldn't be saved. I called the meat locker but they were booked for several days and this cow was fading fast. Called my dad and bros and told them whoever helped me process the cow would get a share of it for free. I shot her, my oldest bro jumped in, stuck her in the neck, and we wait for kicking to cease. Dad attached the hanging tree to the hind legs and lifted her up with the loader tractor. I gave her a good scrub down with the hose and brush, nice and clean. Now to cut out the butthole... Umm there's a calf hanging halfway out of it. Dad talked me through it somehow and it turned out ok. Finished skinning and gutting her then hung her from the hoist in the shop. Wrapped the beast with plastic and let it hang there for three days.
Most of my bros and sisters helped process the meat the day after Thanksgiving. I'm glad it wasn't a total loss and we were able to salvage the meat. Plus we got to spend some extra quality Bloodfart time together.
Post by: ben ji on December 10, 2013, 08:28:09 PM
Probly a total DNR but here goes.
Had to kill a cow a couple weeks ago. I found she was trying to give birth but not having any success. So I approached her from behind and things did not look right back there. I walked her up to the alleyway and took her to see the vet. Don't know how he figured this out but he said the calf had punched a hole in the cow's uterus and one of her stomachs. (WTF?! OUCH!).
The calf was dead and the cow couldn't be saved. I called the meat locker but they were booked for several days and this cow was fading fast. Called my dad and bros and told them whoever helped me process the cow would get a share of it for free. I shot her, my oldest bro jumped in, stuck her in the neck, and we wait for kicking to cease. Dad attached the hanging tree to the hind legs and lifted her up with the loader tractor. I gave her a good scrub down with the hose and brush, nice and clean. Now to cut out the butthole... Umm there's a calf hanging halfway out of it. Dad talked me through it somehow and it turned out ok. Finished skinning and gutting her then hung her from the hoist in the shop. Wrapped the beast with plastic and let it hang there for three days.
Most of my bros and sisters helped process the meat the day after Thanksgiving. I'm glad it wasn't a total loss and we were able to salvage the meat. Plus we got to spend some extra quality Bloodfart time together.
I think that goes here http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=30271.0
Post by: puniraptor on December 10, 2013, 08:44:40 PM
Have you considered telling this story in the form of a music video farming parody on YouTube?
Post by: sys on December 10, 2013, 11:12:43 PM
Post by: The Big Train on December 11, 2013, 02:05:34 AM
Anyways it's the first day of hunting season for antelope, and I was super pumped. I had been on hunts for about the 6 previous years and now was finally my time to get the big kill. We got up up around 4:30 and already had our gear laid out, we got dressed and headed out the door by 4:50, heading up the mountain in Tim's(my step-dad) limited edition John Elway Ford Bronco.
It was about a 40ish minute drive up to where we were hunting in the mountains(basically a huge valley with super high mountains on either side(that's where we hunted Elk)). The sun still hadn't risen but as soon as it did, THERE THEY WERE. A buck and like 10 does, this dude was obviously a superbuck. I pumped one in the chamber(I have a .270 pump with a scope, not a puss .270 bolt action). They were about 300 yards away so we got out of the John Elway Bronco and snuck up on them. We got about 70-100 yards away and I found a nice rock to rest my scope on, I wasn't as huge as I am now so I needed to rest that heavy ass rifle on something.
I looked into the scope and aimed straight for the heart, silence fell on the valley, I pulled the trigger and a boom rang out unto the heavens. That superbuck dropped like Michael J Fox on ice. All the doe's scattered and we went and cleaned the superbuck, got him cleaned and loaded in the John Elway Bronco and were headed down the mountain and back home by 9:30AM on opening day, mom had biscuits and gravy waiting for us.
Post by: star seed 7 on December 11, 2013, 02:17:37 AM
Post by: slobber on December 11, 2013, 05:22:57 AM
Thanks for the update. Still a great buck and Rice County record! :billdance: :cheers:RAMS!!!!!!!!!!! :impatient:ok so apparently it's not even close to the state record. it green scored at 238 1/8 and the kansas record for a non-typical is 280 4/8 (:horrorsurprise:) it's gonna crush the rice county record though. also he shot it with a muzzle loader. :rolleyes:
anyway...here's an article:
http://www.outdoorlife.com/blogs/big-buck-zone/2013/11/big-buck-alert-kansas-nontypical-unofficial-scores-238-inches (http://www.outdoorlife.com/blogs/big-buck-zone/2013/11/big-buck-alert-kansas-nontypical-unofficial-scores-238-inches)
Post by: Rams on December 11, 2013, 09:26:35 PM
i want to shoot a pig, but don't have a good place to go.just booked my pig hunt in east texas for the end of the month. $300 for a 3 day hunt for 2 pigs of any size on a fenced in 160 acre ranch. I mean, that's basically cheaper than you can buy it at a rough ridin' butcher...and I get to kill it myself. :excited:
Post by: sys on December 11, 2013, 09:30:17 PM
Post by: Rams on December 11, 2013, 09:34:40 PM
i know where two groups of pigs are feeding now, but they're both on private land and i can't get to them. cheating bastards.do you live in the states? I thought you lived overseas or in mexico or something. anyway, have you talked to the land owner? assuming they're wild pigs, the owner probably doesn't want them tearing the crap out of his/her land. just ask for permission. :dunno:
Post by: sys on December 11, 2013, 09:49:48 PM
i've lived in the us for the last couple years.
Post by: Emo EMAW on December 12, 2013, 07:49:26 AM
Post by: CNS on December 12, 2013, 08:19:12 AM
Sys, check out the county website. Many counties, around here anyway, have digitized the land records into GIS maps that you can access on line. Some give you a tract number that you can use to call the appropriate county office to get the owners name, and some give you the owners name. Many borrow Google Earth as a background and show you basically everything about the property, info wise. Anyway, get the name of the owner, google the name and give them a call. The commercial properties may say no for insurance reasons, but I bet you will be better received than you think.
Also, I love wild hog. It is fantastic. Black russian boar is my fav meat. It is delish.
Most of the hogs in the wild are not black russian, but some states have a few as well as a decent amt of hybrids from outfitters introducing themn illegally and them breeding w the locals.
Anyway, hog hunting is cheap and relatively easy to get into and I would reccomend it.
Post by: sys on December 12, 2013, 11:13:46 AM
i'm sure i could find public land with pigs if i worked at it, i'm not that motivated though. it's a pain in the ass to hunt in california.
Post by: Emo EMAW on December 12, 2013, 01:27:50 PM
i know the owner's names. they don't allow (free) hunting.
i'm sure i could find public land with pigs if i worked at it, i'm not that motivated though. it's a pain in the ass to hunt in california.
If it were easy, I contend it wouldn't be worth it. (Unless you're just in it for the cheap meat.) ((Which really isn't all that cheap anyway once you consider everything you spend to hunt.))
Post by: Rams on December 12, 2013, 01:56:21 PM
i know the owner's names. they don't allow (free) hunting.wut? why?
i'm sure i could find public land with pigs if i worked at it, i'm not that motivated though. it's a pain in the ass to hunt in california.
Post by: sys on December 12, 2013, 02:01:12 PM
it's a pain in the ass to hunt in california.wut? why?
too many people, not enough land.
Post by: Rams on December 12, 2013, 02:29:32 PM
you're just being lazy. FOLLOW YOUR DREAMS AND GO KILL A PIG!it's a pain in the ass to hunt in california.wut? why?
too many people, not enough land.
Post by: Skipper44 on December 12, 2013, 04:04:26 PM
Post by: sys on December 12, 2013, 04:11:18 PM
Post by: CNS on December 12, 2013, 04:28:27 PM
Post by: Rams on December 12, 2013, 07:23:58 PM
Hunting everywhere requires certification and most things you hunt require hunting licenses. Hogs don't have a season or limit anywhere that I am awarebof, so yeah, just go shoot one, but you still need a hunters safety cert and a hunters license.this is true. all you need is a general state hunting license for texas and I'm pretty sure it's the same for california.
Post by: sys on December 12, 2013, 11:05:22 PM
there is nothing in california that doesn't require a permit.
Resident Hunting License...................................$45.93
Resident Wild Pig Tag..........................................21.86
there is nothing.
Post by: puniraptor on December 12, 2013, 11:06:28 PM
Post by: CNS on December 13, 2013, 08:34:43 AM
there is nothing in california that doesn't require a permit.
Resident Hunting License...................................$45.93
Resident Wild Pig Tag..........................................21.86
there is nothing.
That is crazy. I bet the farmers are pissed about that. Either that or CA doesn't have the population problems that tx and ok have. Last time I was in ok hunting them, the guy we were hunting with said that some parts of the state were highering ppl to come in and kill as many as they could.
Post by: Emo EMAW on December 13, 2013, 08:50:05 AM
Post by: CNS on December 13, 2013, 10:01:11 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on December 13, 2013, 10:07:32 AM
Post by: ben ji on December 13, 2013, 10:25:09 AM
He's got a Brittany pup he's training to be a bird dog so he's buying prairie chickens to place out there. I'm bringing Lady but will just let her run around and have a great time :D
Post by: sys on December 13, 2013, 11:25:45 AM
I bet the farmers are pissed about that.
there aren't any pigs out in the middle of the valley where there is serious farming. in the hills, where the pigs live, you have people with multimillion dollar lifestyle ranches that farm for the tax exemption, vineyards who wouldn't dream of letting a bunch of idiots with guns crawl over their land shooting their workers, a bunch of 5 acre ranchettes and large ranches that make at least as much from charging people to come in and shoot stuff as they do from farming.
there might be pigs that piss off farmers in the farmland along the coast and in the salinas valley, i dunno.
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 19, 2014, 09:53:38 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on February 19, 2014, 09:55:55 AM
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on February 19, 2014, 09:56:42 AM
Post by: ben ji on February 19, 2014, 10:03:51 AM
Guys I just got my deer back from the processor. I went all out and got two kinds of jerky, bunch of summer sausage, snack sticks, brats, and of course the steaks and burger. Was like $400 :sdeek:. Anyway holy crap this is my first deer and it's delicious. I have brought some jerky and snack sticks and summer sausage to work and it seems to have improved my social standing in the company. :gocho:
How many pounds of meat did you end up getting?
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 19, 2014, 10:05:27 AM
Guys I just got my deer back from the processor. I went all out and got two kinds of jerky, bunch of summer sausage, snack sticks, brats, and of course the steaks and burger. Was like $400 :sdeek:. Anyway holy crap this is my first deer and it's delicious. I have brought some jerky and snack sticks and summer sausage to work and it seems to have improved my social standing in the company. :gocho:
How many pounds of meat did you end up getting?
Not really sure, maybe about 60 pounds? My reference is that the box was substantially heavier than a 37.5lb of dog food.
Post by: Rams on February 19, 2014, 10:07:07 AM
Guys I just got my deer back from the processor. I went all out and got two kinds of jerky, bunch of summer sausage, snack sticks, brats, and of course the steaks and burger. Was like $400 :sdeek:. Anyway holy crap this is my first deer and it's delicious. I have brought some jerky and snack sticks and summer sausage to work and it seems to have improved my social standing in the company. :gocho:I shot a doe at the end of january and processed the whole thing myself. hung it, skinned it, and butchered it in my garage. I spent over $300 on my buck and the quality was just ok. I decided I was just going to buy everything to do it myself from now on. I already had a smoker but I got a meat grinder, a sausage stuffer and a dehydrator. it's really awesome being able to do everything yourself. you can control the quality and do everything exactly how you want to.
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 19, 2014, 10:09:37 AM
Guys I just got my deer back from the processor. I went all out and got two kinds of jerky, bunch of summer sausage, snack sticks, brats, and of course the steaks and burger. Was like $400 :sdeek:. Anyway holy crap this is my first deer and it's delicious. I have brought some jerky and snack sticks and summer sausage to work and it seems to have improved my social standing in the company. :gocho:I shot a doe at the end of january and processed the whole thing myself. hung it, skinned it, and butchered it in my garage. I spent over $300 on my buck and the quality was just ok. I decided I was just going to buy everything to do it myself from now on. I already had a smoker but I got a meat grinder, a sausage stuffer and a dehydrator. it's really awesome being able to do everything yourself. you can control the quality and do everything exactly how you want to.
That sounds cool but I'm afraid I would eff it up, and that would send me into a deep depression. I'm also kinda squirmy about stuff like that.
Post by: Rams on February 19, 2014, 10:23:05 AM
you're not going to eff it up any worse than the butcher. you'll take more time and care to do it right. I watched a few youtube videos and found a great step-by-step site that I used and didn't have any problems. it's really simple.Guys I just got my deer back from the processor. I went all out and got two kinds of jerky, bunch of summer sausage, snack sticks, brats, and of course the steaks and burger. Was like $400 :sdeek:. Anyway holy crap this is my first deer and it's delicious. I have brought some jerky and snack sticks and summer sausage to work and it seems to have improved my social standing in the company. :gocho:I shot a doe at the end of january and processed the whole thing myself. hung it, skinned it, and butchered it in my garage. I spent over $300 on my buck and the quality was just ok. I decided I was just going to buy everything to do it myself from now on. I already had a smoker but I got a meat grinder, a sausage stuffer and a dehydrator. it's really awesome being able to do everything yourself. you can control the quality and do everything exactly how you want to.
That sounds cool but I'm afraid I would eff it up, and that would send me into a deep depression. I'm also kinda squirmy about stuff like that.
and squirmish? do you not field dress them yourself? skinning and butchering is nothing compared to field dressing.
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 19, 2014, 10:33:13 AM
you're not going to eff it up any worse than the butcher. you'll take more time and care to do it right. I watched a few youtube videos and found a great step-by-step site that I used and didn't have any problems. it's really simple.Guys I just got my deer back from the processor. I went all out and got two kinds of jerky, bunch of summer sausage, snack sticks, brats, and of course the steaks and burger. Was like $400 :sdeek:. Anyway holy crap this is my first deer and it's delicious. I have brought some jerky and snack sticks and summer sausage to work and it seems to have improved my social standing in the company. :gocho:I shot a doe at the end of january and processed the whole thing myself. hung it, skinned it, and butchered it in my garage. I spent over $300 on my buck and the quality was just ok. I decided I was just going to buy everything to do it myself from now on. I already had a smoker but I got a meat grinder, a sausage stuffer and a dehydrator. it's really awesome being able to do everything yourself. you can control the quality and do everything exactly how you want to.
That sounds cool but I'm afraid I would eff it up, and that would send me into a deep depression. I'm also kinda squirmy about stuff like that.
and squirmish? do you not field dress them yourself? skinning and butchering is nothing compared to field dressing.
Ya I field dressed him. It was like 2 deg F so for some reason it didn't gross me out at all. Never got one bad whif. Was warm putting my hands up inside him. Although next time I'll wear a shittier sweater and get some of those cattle birthing shoulder length gloves.
Post by: _33 on February 19, 2014, 10:48:45 AM
you're not going to eff it up any worse than the butcher. you'll take more time and care to do it right. I watched a few youtube videos and found a great step-by-step site that I used and didn't have any problems. it's really simple.Guys I just got my deer back from the processor. I went all out and got two kinds of jerky, bunch of summer sausage, snack sticks, brats, and of course the steaks and burger. Was like $400 :sdeek:. Anyway holy crap this is my first deer and it's delicious. I have brought some jerky and snack sticks and summer sausage to work and it seems to have improved my social standing in the company. :gocho:I shot a doe at the end of january and processed the whole thing myself. hung it, skinned it, and butchered it in my garage. I spent over $300 on my buck and the quality was just ok. I decided I was just going to buy everything to do it myself from now on. I already had a smoker but I got a meat grinder, a sausage stuffer and a dehydrator. it's really awesome being able to do everything yourself. you can control the quality and do everything exactly how you want to.
That sounds cool but I'm afraid I would eff it up, and that would send me into a deep depression. I'm also kinda squirmy about stuff like that.
Would puking and barfing on the deer multiple times while butchering it mess it up? Or could you just rinse it off afterward?
Post by: SEK_EMAW on February 19, 2014, 10:52:57 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xijmge8_NJw
Post by: The Big Train on February 19, 2014, 10:57:07 AM
Post by: sys on February 19, 2014, 10:59:16 AM
i've never done sausage or any of that stuff. just fresh meat. cured meats would be interesting. i doubt if i'd want to start with game meat though.
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 19, 2014, 11:17:32 AM
Post by: The Big Train on February 19, 2014, 11:29:22 AM
This (the processing of the meat) is something I don't mind paying for, especially for my first deer. Previous to this experience I wasn't even sure how much I would enjoy the meat. I was mostly after the antlers and the outdoor experience so the meat is a bonus. At this point I can say I would do it again, although the next animal could be a antelope or elk in another state, so that could change. $400 is a drop in the bucket compared to everything else I spend on this stuff.
Antelope hunting is about as hard as making a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, it is fun tho. Elk hunting is my favorite, lived around the mountains for a long time and very tiring going up and down the mountains but worth it. Never been moose hunting but I'm sure it would be a blast.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 19, 2014, 11:34:51 AM
This (the processing of the meat) is something I don't mind paying for, especially for my first deer. Previous to this experience I wasn't even sure how much I would enjoy the meat. I was mostly after the antlers and the outdoor experience so the meat is a bonus. At this point I can say I would do it again, although the next animal could be a antelope or elk in another state, so that could change. $400 is a drop in the bucket compared to everything else I spend on this stuff.
Antelope hunting is about as hard as making a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, it is fun tho. Elk hunting is my favorite, lived around the mountains for a long time and very tiring going up and down the mountains but worth it. Never been moose hunting but I'm sure it would be a blast.
moose are forest cows. just stroll up and judge them
Post by: The Big Train on February 19, 2014, 11:37:23 AM
This (the processing of the meat) is something I don't mind paying for, especially for my first deer. Previous to this experience I wasn't even sure how much I would enjoy the meat. I was mostly after the antlers and the outdoor experience so the meat is a bonus. At this point I can say I would do it again, although the next animal could be a antelope or elk in another state, so that could change. $400 is a drop in the bucket compared to everything else I spend on this stuff.
Antelope hunting is about as hard as making a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, it is fun tho. Elk hunting is my favorite, lived around the mountains for a long time and very tiring going up and down the mountains but worth it. Never been moose hunting but I'm sure it would be a blast.
moose are forest cows. just stroll up and judge them
Moose can charge you tho, so like a bullfight cow?
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 19, 2014, 12:15:57 PM
This (the processing of the meat) is something I don't mind paying for, especially for my first deer. Previous to this experience I wasn't even sure how much I would enjoy the meat. I was mostly after the antlers and the outdoor experience so the meat is a bonus. At this point I can say I would do it again, although the next animal could be a antelope or elk in another state, so that could change. $400 is a drop in the bucket compared to everything else I spend on this stuff.
Antelope hunting is about as hard as making a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, it is fun tho. Elk hunting is my favorite, lived around the mountains for a long time and very tiring going up and down the mountains but worth it. Never been moose hunting but I'm sure it would be a blast.
I want to backpack in way away from a road and camp and hunt and kill one and cut it into pieces and carry it out on my back.
Post by: sys on February 19, 2014, 12:18:39 PM
I want to backpack in way away from a road and camp and hunt and kill one and cut it into pieces and carry it out on my back.
i've done that (not antelope). it's very overrated. unless you are friends with a horse who is willing to carry your dead animals, it's a lot better to shoot one near a car.
Post by: The Big Train on February 19, 2014, 12:20:11 PM
This (the processing of the meat) is something I don't mind paying for, especially for my first deer. Previous to this experience I wasn't even sure how much I would enjoy the meat. I was mostly after the antlers and the outdoor experience so the meat is a bonus. At this point I can say I would do it again, although the next animal could be a antelope or elk in another state, so that could change. $400 is a drop in the bucket compared to everything else I spend on this stuff.
Antelope hunting is about as hard as making a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, it is fun tho. Elk hunting is my favorite, lived around the mountains for a long time and very tiring going up and down the mountains but worth it. Never been moose hunting but I'm sure it would be a blast.
I want to backpack in way away from a road and camp and hunt and kill one and cut it into pieces and carry it out on my back.
I lived that fantasy by reading this book like 100 times when I was little
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fg-ecx.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FG%2F01%2Fciu%2Ffd%2F28%2Fa67b51c88da07c1674852210.L.jpg&hash=21c371172d9cef8cec298151f217912e77cc03b2)
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 19, 2014, 12:22:11 PM
I want to backpack in way away from a road and camp and hunt and kill one and cut it into pieces and carry it out on my back.
i've done that (not antelope). it's very overrated. unless you are friends with a horse who is willing to carry your dead animals, it's a lot better to shoot one near a car.
Both deer I've dragged out were character building experiences. Both were about ~1 mile drags. I like the punishment sometimes.
Post by: ben ji on February 19, 2014, 12:56:05 PM
I lived that fantasy by reading this book like 100 times when I was little
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fg-ecx.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FG%2F01%2Fciu%2Ffd%2F28%2Fa67b51c88da07c1674852210.L.jpg&hash=21c371172d9cef8cec298151f217912e77cc03b2)
ben ji's favorite book ever of all time for infinity growing up. The follow up(Brian's winter) was pretty good as well.
I've always wanted to go "Off the grid" and live in a cabin for like a year but then I think about how much certain things would suck and just go fishing instead.
Post by: The Big Train on February 19, 2014, 01:01:18 PM
I lived that fantasy by reading this book like 100 times when I was little
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fg-ecx.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FG%2F01%2Fciu%2Ffd%2F28%2Fa67b51c88da07c1674852210.L.jpg&hash=21c371172d9cef8cec298151f217912e77cc03b2)
ben ji's favorite book ever of all time for infinity growing up. The follow up(Brian's winter) was pretty good as well.
I've always wanted to go "Off the grid" and live in a cabin for like a year but then I think about how much certain things would suck and just go fishing instead.
This was also read like a 100 times by little TBT, "The River" on the other hand was the bastard child.
Post by: _33 on February 19, 2014, 01:02:19 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 19, 2014, 01:04:20 PM
I would love to be in a survival situation someday. But only if I was sure I was going to be rescued really soon.You should probably get into this show. http://www.discovery.com/tv-shows/naked-and-afraid I'm obsessed!
Post by: ben ji on February 19, 2014, 01:04:30 PM
I lived that fantasy by reading this book like 100 times when I was little
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fg-ecx.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FG%2F01%2Fciu%2Ffd%2F28%2Fa67b51c88da07c1674852210.L.jpg&hash=21c371172d9cef8cec298151f217912e77cc03b2)
ben ji's favorite book ever of all time for infinity growing up. The follow up(Brian's winter) was pretty good as well.
I've always wanted to go "Off the grid" and live in a cabin for like a year but then I think about how much certain things would suck and just go fishing instead.
This was also read like a 100 times by little TBT, "The River" on the other hand was the bastard child.
I knew there was a third one that sucked but I couldn't think of it.
May have to visit the old library and tear through hatchet/brian's winter this weekend :drool:
Post by: Fedor on February 19, 2014, 01:06:37 PM
True story alert: I just read that with my kids and I got so excited I got them both hatchets for Christmas.
I lived that fantasy by reading this book like 100 times when I was little
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fg-ecx.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FG%2F01%2Fciu%2Ffd%2F28%2Fa67b51c88da07c1674852210.L.jpg&hash=21c371172d9cef8cec298151f217912e77cc03b2)
ben ji's favorite book ever of all time for infinity growing up. The follow up(Brian's winter) was pretty good as well.
I've always wanted to go "Off the grid" and live in a cabin for like a year but then I think about how much certain things would suck and just go fishing instead.
This was also read like a 100 times by little TBT, "The River" on the other hand was the bastard child.
I knew there was a third one that sucked but I couldn't think of it.
May have to visit the old library and tear through hatchet/brian's winter this weekend :drool:
Post by: ben ji on February 19, 2014, 01:11:17 PM
Post by: Rams on February 19, 2014, 02:26:53 PM
I plan on packing in to bowhunt for elk in colorado this year. then I'm eyeing an archery moosehunt in thunder bay ontario next year.This (the processing of the meat) is something I don't mind paying for, especially for my first deer. Previous to this experience I wasn't even sure how much I would enjoy the meat. I was mostly after the antlers and the outdoor experience so the meat is a bonus. At this point I can say I would do it again, although the next animal could be a antelope or elk in another state, so that could change. $400 is a drop in the bucket compared to everything else I spend on this stuff.
Antelope hunting is about as hard as making a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, it is fun tho. Elk hunting is my favorite, lived around the mountains for a long time and very tiring going up and down the mountains but worth it. Never been moose hunting but I'm sure it would be a blast.
I want to backpack in way away from a road and camp and hunt and kill one and cut it into pieces and carry it out on my back.
Post by: Rams on February 19, 2014, 02:29:32 PM
Post by: steve dave on February 19, 2014, 02:30:23 PM
has anyone done a snow geese conservation spring hunt in kansas? I really want to do that this year (mainly to fill my freezer with goose jerky) and I know you basically have to use a guide because you need a minimum 2,000 decoys or so and have to know where they're flying.
sounds worth it for some disgusting goose jerky
Post by: Rams on February 19, 2014, 02:34:48 PM
http://honest-food.net/2012/02/29/duck-or-goose-jerky/ (http://honest-food.net/2012/02/29/duck-or-goose-jerky/) :lick:has anyone done a snow geese conservation spring hunt in kansas? I really want to do that this year (mainly to fill my freezer with goose jerky) and I know you basically have to use a guide because you need a minimum 2,000 decoys or so and have to know where they're flying.
sounds worth it for some disgusting goose jerky
Post by: sys on February 19, 2014, 03:16:20 PM
Post by: steve dave on February 19, 2014, 03:20:15 PM
Post by: sys on February 19, 2014, 03:35:36 PM
there are over a million (billion?) geese on the lake by my office at any one time. really fat ones with gullets full of popcorn and cafeteria breads fed to them by the proletariats in the office park.
the daughter of the mexican president got in a lot of trouble by using the term proletariat in a tweet.
Post by: ben ji on March 30, 2014, 07:19:48 PM
I was hitting about 80-90% while my buds who owned the shotguns and clay flinging contraption were only hitting like 40%.
I'm pretty sure I'm a clay shooting savant for whatever that is worth.
Post by: star seed 7 on March 30, 2014, 07:24:04 PM
So shot some clays today for the first time.
I was hitting about 80-90% while my buds who owned the shotguns and clay flinging contraption were only hitting like 40%.
I'm pretty sure I'm a clay shooting savant for whatever that is worth.
i'm sure you're great at it (cause you're a total stud), but your friends really suck ass at clay thingies. 40%? woof :Ugh:
Post by: kim carnes on March 30, 2014, 07:46:10 PM
So shot some clays today for the first time.
I was hitting about 80-90% while my buds who owned the shotguns and clay flinging contraption were only hitting like 40%.
I'm pretty sure I'm a clay shooting savant for whatever that is worth.
FYI. you're not
Post by: ben ji on March 30, 2014, 08:36:19 PM
Bummer
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 31, 2014, 09:01:05 AM
Post by: steve dave on March 31, 2014, 09:01:46 AM
I doubt you were really breaking that many, though.
seems like a pretty garbagey thing to say
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 31, 2014, 09:06:33 AM
I doubt you were really breaking that many, though.
seems like a pretty garbagey thing to say
I just mean it's easy to think you're breaking 9 out of 10 when you're really breaking 6 or 7 out of 10 when you're a beginner. That's why people keep score, and when they talk about it, they tell their score, not some percentage. Like it would have been more believable if ben ji had said "we shot two rounds of trap and on the first I broke 20 and the second I broke 22."
Post by: Tobias on March 31, 2014, 09:10:37 AM
Post by: ben ji on March 31, 2014, 11:50:27 AM
Anything over 80% is pretty good, for trap, IMO. I doubt you were really breaking that many, though. Was this chowder Creek?
Not sure what you mean by "breaking that many" but if a piece came flying off of the clay after my gun went "boom" then I counted it.
Check out this great ACTION shot, you can see the clay IN MULTIPLE PEICES in the top right corner.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.tapatalk.com%2Fd%2F14%2F04%2F01%2Fvesubeje.jpg&hash=e066ac601bf431d1eb1e481189b19fa4aaae8227)
We were at my buddies land by 255th and pflum, didn't catch any fish tho :-(.
Post by: Gooch on March 31, 2014, 11:51:24 AM
Post by: ben ji on March 31, 2014, 11:52:01 AM
WOW, HE JUST NAILED THAT CLAY!
Post by: Spracne on March 31, 2014, 11:52:15 AM
Anything over 80% is pretty good, for trap, IMO. I doubt you were really breaking that many, though. Was this chowder Creek?
Not sure what you mean by "breaking that many" but if a piece came flying off of the clay after my gun went "boom" then I counted it.
Check out this great ACTION shot, you can see the clay IN MULTIPLE PEICES in the top right corner.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.tapatalk.com%2Fd%2F14%2F04%2F01%2Fvesubeje.jpg&hash=e066ac601bf431d1eb1e481189b19fa4aaae8227)
We were at my buddies land by 255th and pflum, didn't catch any fish tho :-(.
Ben Ji is Todd Reesing??? :sdeek:
Post by: schreds21 on March 31, 2014, 12:25:25 PM
No way you were breaking 80-90% with that form.Anything over 80% is pretty good, for trap, IMO. I doubt you were really breaking that many, though. Was this chowder Creek?
Not sure what you mean by "breaking that many" but if a piece came flying off of the clay after my gun went "boom" then I counted it.
Check out this great ACTION shot, you can see the clay IN MULTIPLE PEICES in the top right corner.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.tapatalk.com%2Fd%2F14%2F04%2F01%2Fvesubeje.jpg&hash=e066ac601bf431d1eb1e481189b19fa4aaae8227)
We were at my buddies land by 255th and pflum, didn't catch any fish tho :-(.
Post by: ben ji on March 31, 2014, 12:27:29 PM
No way you were breaking 80-90% with that form.Anything over 80% is pretty good, for trap, IMO. I doubt you were really breaking that many, though. Was this chowder Creek?
Not sure what you mean by "breaking that many" but if a piece came flying off of the clay after my gun went "boom" then I counted it.
Check out this great ACTION shot, you can see the clay IN MULTIPLE PEICES in the top right corner.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.tapatalk.com%2Fd%2F14%2F04%2F01%2Fvesubeje.jpg&hash=e066ac601bf431d1eb1e481189b19fa4aaae8227)
We were at my buddies land by 255th and pflum, didn't catch any fish tho :-(.
Are you implying that if I had the correct form I would be hitting 95-100%?!?!?
Is there a professional clay shooting league I could dominate?
Post by: schreds21 on March 31, 2014, 12:31:36 PM
10 minutes with me and you would never miss.No way you were breaking 80-90% with that form.Anything over 80% is pretty good, for trap, IMO. I doubt you were really breaking that many, though. Was this chowder Creek?
Not sure what you mean by "breaking that many" but if a piece came flying off of the clay after my gun went "boom" then I counted it.
Check out this great ACTION shot, you can see the clay IN MULTIPLE PEICES in the top right corner.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.tapatalk.com%2Fd%2F14%2F04%2F01%2Fvesubeje.jpg&hash=e066ac601bf431d1eb1e481189b19fa4aaae8227)
We were at my buddies land by 255th and pflum, didn't catch any fish tho :-(.
Are you implying that if I had the correct form I would be hitting 95-100%?!?!?
Is there a professional clay shooting league I could dominate?
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 31, 2014, 12:32:51 PM
Post by: Tobias on March 31, 2014, 12:35:10 PM
Post by: ben ji on March 31, 2014, 12:35:44 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.tapatalk.com%2Fd%2F14%2F04%2F01%2Ftunata9u.jpg&hash=d2980c9b9c1a01d1740c9a33ad44b36330d58c3d)
Post by: ben ji on March 31, 2014, 12:37:45 PM
Thanks tobias, these puds are just super jelly.
Post by: The Big Train on March 31, 2014, 12:39:20 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 31, 2014, 12:49:27 PM
Post by: Mr Bread on March 31, 2014, 01:37:25 PM
Post by: ben ji on March 31, 2014, 01:47:44 PM
I'm super jelly of ben ji and his awesome clay shooting skills
Thanks bread!
Post by: puniraptor on March 31, 2014, 02:28:53 PM
I'm super jelly of ben ji and his awesome clay shooting skills
Thanks bread!
:lol:
Post by: Bloodfart on March 31, 2014, 07:01:14 PM
Post by: ben ji on March 31, 2014, 11:45:05 PM
I will assume you were using steel shot since you appear to be shooting over water.
We were not....Had no idea what you meant so I did some googling and learned that waterfowl will eat the lead pellets as grit then get lead poisoning :frown:
I doubt very many of the pellets landed in or near the water(the widest part is in the picture) so it should be fine right??
Should you always use steel shot when shooting around any water frequented by waterfowl? Is there a general rule?
We used biodegradable clays if that means anything!
Post by: sys on March 31, 2014, 11:48:34 PM
I will assume you were using steel shot since you appear to be shooting over water.
We were not....Had no idea what you meant so I did some googling and learned that waterfowl will eat the lead pellets as grit then get lead poisoning :frown:
and i was just getting ready to pm a mod about splitting the thread.
Post by: nicname on March 31, 2014, 11:48:59 PM
Post by: The Big Train on March 31, 2014, 11:51:12 PM
Srs post. I've never owned a gun or killed an animal with one. I really want to start though. I'll probably start small, but I'd like to crescendo my way up to stalking predators in the mountains while keeping a sidearm on my hip.
You are missing out! Also I really like your strategy going forward
Post by: ben ji on March 31, 2014, 11:53:26 PM
I will assume you were using steel shot since you appear to be shooting over water.
We were not....Had no idea what you meant so I did some googling and learned that waterfowl will eat the lead pellets as grit then get lead poisoning :frown:
and i was just getting ready to pm a mod about splitting the thread.
sys, you know alot about animals right? What about my other questions?!?
Will the ducks be fine because all the lead shot landed on the other side of the lake?
Post by: nicname on March 31, 2014, 11:56:10 PM
Srs post. I've never owned a gun or killed an animal with one. I really want to start though. I'll probably start small, but I'd like to crescendo my way up to stalking predators in the mountains while keeping a sidearm on my hip.
You are missing out! Also I really like your strategy going forward
I may just skip deer and stuff. I have a soft spot for non-carnivorous mammals. Birds, not so much.
Post by: star seed 7 on March 31, 2014, 11:56:49 PM
I will assume you were using steel shot since you appear to be shooting over water.
We were not....Had no idea what you meant so I did some googling and learned that waterfowl will eat the lead pellets as grit then get lead poisoning :frown:
and i was just getting ready to pm a mod about splitting the thread.
sys, you know alot about animals right? What about my other questions?!?
Will the ducks be fine because all the lead shot landed on the other side of the lake?
those ducks shouldn't have been walking in that neighborhood at night, certainly not dressed like that.
Post by: sys on April 01, 2014, 12:03:56 AM
sys, you know alot about animals right? What about my other questions?!?
Will the ducks be fine because all the lead shot landed on the other side of the lake?
i don't think the shot landed on the other side of the lake.
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 01, 2014, 08:27:28 AM
sys, you know alot about animals right? What about my other questions?!?
Will the ducks be fine because all the lead shot landed on the other side of the lake?
i don't think the shot landed on the other side of the lake.
x2
It really doesn't go as far as you think, like it'll surprise you how far it doesn't go.
Post by: puniraptor on April 01, 2014, 08:40:50 AM
Post by: Bloodfart on April 01, 2014, 09:06:24 AM
I will assume you were using steel shot since you appear to be shooting over water.
We were not....Had no idea what you meant so I did some googling and learned that waterfowl will eat the lead pellets as grit then get lead poisoning :frown:
I doubt very many of the pellets landed in or near the water(the widest part is in the picture) so it should be fine right??
Should you always use steel shot when shooting around any water frequented by waterfowl? Is there a general rule?
We used biodegradable clays if that means anything!
You're probly ok if you guys don't shoot there regular. Now you know and knowing is half the battle. Plus you fisher guys use lead weights and so there's something to think about.
Post by: SdK on June 08, 2014, 01:41:17 PM
http://www.deceptionoutdoors.com/ (http://www.deceptionoutdoors.com/)
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 09, 2014, 08:54:04 AM
Met a guy at a wedding that is trying to get his business going. I figured this would be the thread for that. :D
http://www.deceptionoutdoors.com/ (http://www.deceptionoutdoors.com/)
Those are some great looking decoys for sure. The turkey needs to have more gloss to it though so it's shiny and reflects more light. They could probably coat with a lacquer or something.
Post by: SdK on June 09, 2014, 12:26:22 PM
The groom (not the guy who started the company) told me their goal is to sell to farmers etc. that lease out land and such.
Post by: star seed 7 on June 09, 2014, 01:33:50 PM
It was so awful
Post by: stunted on June 09, 2014, 03:31:08 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 09, 2014, 03:37:43 PM
Went shrimping in Taiwan last week. There's these big indoor places with swimming pool sized tanks of water filled with shrimp, and its basically like fishing. When you catch one, you have to tear off its 2 claws, and then rip out the hook. When you're done, you skewer them while they're alive and squirming, and roast them.
:horrorsurprise:
Post by: steve dave on June 09, 2014, 03:38:39 PM
Post by: SdK on June 09, 2014, 03:42:35 PM
Post by: stunted on June 09, 2014, 03:47:13 PM
Here I am with my first catch:
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Post by: Mr Bread on June 09, 2014, 03:57:00 PM
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 09, 2014, 06:18:46 PM
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 09, 2014, 06:37:52 PM
Minos in ouzo, i presume?:)
Post by: SdK on July 08, 2014, 12:48:08 AM
Knew someone that lived on Bucksnort road in Blaine.
Second, sometimes when I'm on my porch at night I hear sounds that I can only attribute to an animal snorting or something.
Snort and snorting are weird words.
Post by: The Big Train on July 08, 2014, 12:53:24 AM
Do bucks really snort? I ask for two reasons.
Knew someone that lived on Bucksnort road in Blaine.
Second, sometimes when I'm on my porch at night I hear sounds that I can only attribute to an animal snorting or something.
Snort and snorting are weird words.
Deer? yes. Young Buck the rapper, probably not. MAYBE THO!
Do you live out in the country, if so than probably.
Could be sneezing also, idk tho
Post by: SdK on July 08, 2014, 12:58:04 AM
Interestingly never heard them when I did live in the country.
Post by: star seed 7 on August 05, 2014, 10:02:49 PM
I really despise snakes, but I don't want to be the one killing them :frown:
Post by: deputy dawg on August 06, 2014, 10:33:43 AM
Do bucks really snort? I ask for two reasons.
Knew someone that lived on Bucksnort road in Blaine.
Second, sometimes when I'm on my porch at night I hear sounds that I can only attribute to an animal snorting or something.
Snort and snorting are weird words.
Does are more likely to snort, but bucks do too. They usually do it when they catch the scent of a human, and snort as a warning. Hunters are painfully aware of this, it usually means you're busted and hunting won't be much good for an hour or so.
Post by: sys on August 06, 2014, 11:07:43 AM
Sys, I parked my car today (ruralish area) and noticed something under my wheel and it was a small snake like 12" long and it was half under my tire :frown:
I really despise snakes, but I don't want to be the one killing them :frown:
oh no! what kind of snake did you murder?
Post by: star seed 7 on August 06, 2014, 12:46:59 PM
Sys, I parked my car today (ruralish area) and noticed something under my wheel and it was a small snake like 12" long and it was half under my tire :frown:
I really despise snakes, but I don't want to be the one killing them :frown:
oh no! what kind of snake did you murder?
There are different kinds? :runaway:
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 07, 2014, 12:15:42 PM
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Post by: SdK on August 08, 2014, 01:07:07 PM
Do bucks really snort? I ask for two reasons.
Knew someone that lived on Bucksnort road in Blaine.
Second, sometimes when I'm on my porch at night I hear sounds that I can only attribute to an animal snorting or something.
Snort and snorting are weird words.
Does are more likely to snort, but bucks do too. They usually do it when they catch the scent of a human, and snort as a warning. Hunters are painfully aware of this, it usually means you're busted and hunting won't be much good for an hour or so.
Thank you.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 04, 2014, 03:52:32 PM
Go kill this thing, sys! :shakesfist:
Post by: CNS on September 04, 2014, 04:00:33 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 04, 2014, 04:20:26 PM
Pet store guy in my home town had one of these last year. He is a collector and brings his not-for-sale-check-out-what-I-have stuff into the store for ppl to look at. Anyway, he said that there was only like three places in the country that had the appropriate anti venom and the nearest was in FL or something. Basically, if you got bit in KS, you die since it took less time to die than it would to get the anti venom from FL.Woof! No thanks!
Post by: The1BigWillie on September 04, 2014, 04:27:54 PM
Do bucks really snort? I ask for two reasons.
Knew someone that lived on Bucksnort road in Blaine.
Second, sometimes when I'm on my porch at night I hear sounds that I can only attribute to an animal snorting or something.
Snort and snorting are weird words.
I'm not saying it was Bigfoot but it was probably Bigfoot.
Post by: Brock Landers on September 05, 2014, 12:46:53 PM
What kind of a sick twisted monster would kill a majestic and beautiful creature such as a peacock?
Post by: Spracne on September 05, 2014, 12:51:18 PM
Post by: kslim on September 05, 2014, 01:40:02 PM
a peacuckold?
:lol: you are a really good poster
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 05, 2014, 01:41:56 PM
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Post by: Brock Landers on September 05, 2014, 01:49:00 PM
I would kill several creatures I perceive to be much more majestic than a loser peacock.
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You take that back Emo. Peacocks, in addition to being majestic are probably highly intelligent. Guardians of royalty too or something like that.
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 05, 2014, 04:27:41 PM
I would kill several creatures I perceive to be much more majestic than a loser peacock.
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You take that back Emo. Peacocks, in addition to being majestic are probably highly intelligent. Guardians of royalty too or something like that.
I actually have peacock parts in my house already. Not sure of they died giving those parts though.
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Post by: star seed 7 on September 05, 2014, 06:56:38 PM
I would kill several creatures I perceive to be much more majestic than a loser peacock.
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Why
Post by: ben ji on September 05, 2014, 07:46:53 PM
http://www.wibw.com/home/headlines/On-The-Hunt-For-A-Killer----Of-Peacocks-273752211.html (http://www.wibw.com/home/headlines/On-The-Hunt-For-A-Killer----Of-Peacocks-273752211.html)
What kind of a sick twisted monster would kill a majestic and beautiful creature such as a peacock?
Question for anyone who grew up in western ks.....Is it normal to have peacock's as pets on a farm?
I ask because my Grandparents had pet peacocks for a couple years on their farm....like 5 of them....until they were all eventually taken out by coyotes/critters.
Post by: ben ji on September 05, 2014, 07:48:44 PM
Post by: sys on September 05, 2014, 08:03:31 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 06, 2014, 11:24:43 PM
I would kill several creatures I perceive to be much more majestic than a loser peacock.
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Why
Variety of reasons.
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Post by: HerrSonntag on September 07, 2014, 11:20:12 PM
Do bucks really snort? I ask for two reasons.Do you have family in little ole' Blaine, KS, SDK? My mom's family all hails from there, small world!
Knew someone that lived on Bucksnort road in Blaine.
Second, sometimes when I'm on my porch at night I hear sounds that I can only attribute to an animal snorting or something.
Snort and snorting are weird words.
Post by: slobber on September 08, 2014, 07:58:54 AM
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: SdK on September 08, 2014, 10:45:44 AM
Do bucks really snort? I ask for two reasons.Do you have family in little ole' Blaine, KS, SDK? My mom's family all hails from there, small world!
Knew someone that lived on Bucksnort road in Blaine.
Second, sometimes when I'm on my porch at night I hear sounds that I can only attribute to an animal snorting or something.
Snort and snorting are weird words.
Not family, but graduated with a guy named Brian F that lived there and he had an older sister named Sheila I believe.
Post by: stunted on February 28, 2015, 07:33:57 PM
:frown:
Post by: stunted on February 28, 2015, 07:34:23 PM
Post by: sys on February 28, 2015, 07:37:54 PM
Caught a rat in my place in a glue trap (only option). It also ate poison. It's now squirming around and making awful noises. I can't bring myself to kill it.
:frown:
you're a horrible person.
Post by: cDubya on February 28, 2015, 09:44:25 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1375.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag451%2Fcolemanwmullins%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2FFB_IMG_1424914141850_zpsqbqco4ip.jpg&hash=f9f9e51bf71ca3c8f8eee73f6bb3949fddb4a0e4) (http://s1375.photobucket.com/user/colemanwmullins/media/Mobile%20Uploads/FB_IMG_1424914141850_zpsqbqco4ip.jpg.html)
Post by: slobber on March 01, 2015, 11:29:31 AM
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: cDubya on March 01, 2015, 05:31:46 PM
Oh wow.
Gonna win 'em all!
Lol, right?!
Post by: wetwillie on March 01, 2015, 05:38:13 PM
Don't imagine anyone will be killing this cute little guy, but he(she?) has been spotted multiple times here recently in southern WV...
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1375.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag451%2Fcolemanwmullins%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2FFB_IMG_1424914141850_zpsqbqco4ip.jpg&hash=f9f9e51bf71ca3c8f8eee73f6bb3949fddb4a0e4) (http://s1375.photobucket.com/user/colemanwmullins/media/Mobile%20Uploads/FB_IMG_1424914141850_zpsqbqco4ip.jpg.html)
That is a magnificent specimen.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 01, 2015, 06:11:48 PM
Post by: stunted on March 01, 2015, 07:38:57 PM
Caught a rat in my place in a glue trap (only option). It also ate poison. It's now squirming around and making awful noises. I can't bring myself to kill it.
:frown:
you're a horrible person.
drowned it. the first mammal i've killed in my life. i feel like a man
Post by: The Big Train on March 01, 2015, 07:42:37 PM
Post by: stunted on March 01, 2015, 07:52:44 PM
Post by: The Big Train on March 01, 2015, 07:54:59 PM
Post by: wetwillie on March 01, 2015, 08:04:07 PM
Post by: wetwillie on March 01, 2015, 08:06:49 PM
Post by: Tobias on March 01, 2015, 08:10:52 PM
Post by: stunted on March 01, 2015, 08:15:45 PM
i was a bit anxious before, but i didn't feel anything during the kill.
Post by: Katpappy on March 01, 2015, 08:22:05 PM
or just shooting it or severing the spinal cord, you know the quick non-suffering ways to goYou know the funny thing about "glue traps" is ppl think they are humane.
Post by: stunted on March 01, 2015, 08:25:33 PM
Post by: stunted on March 01, 2015, 08:31:22 PM
Post by: The Big Train on March 01, 2015, 08:39:02 PM
Post by: Katpappy on March 01, 2015, 08:42:00 PM
also hypocritical to criticize it for being inhumane if you don't eat 100% organic meat.Hey I'm not picking on you for your choice of trapping the rats roaming around. Most ppl throw them in the trash and think this is such a sterile way to get rid of them. The old fashioned wood spring trap is the most humane way, but ppl don't like to touch the dead rat or the blood clean up caused by the trap.
Post by: SdK on March 01, 2015, 10:38:07 PM
#TheWesIsTheFuture
Post by: star seed 7 on March 01, 2015, 10:43:19 PM
Post by: mocat on March 01, 2015, 10:47:49 PM
Don't imagine anyone will be killing this cute little guy, but he(she?) has been spotted multiple times here recently in southern WV...
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1375.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag451%2Fcolemanwmullins%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2FFB_IMG_1424914141850_zpsqbqco4ip.jpg&hash=f9f9e51bf71ca3c8f8eee73f6bb3949fddb4a0e4) (http://s1375.photobucket.com/user/colemanwmullins/media/Mobile%20Uploads/FB_IMG_1424914141850_zpsqbqco4ip.jpg.html)
This is my #1 favorite animal on planet earth
Post by: stunted on March 02, 2015, 04:27:33 AM
100% catch and release guy myself.
#TheWesIsTheFuture
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAMR6ndKgwU
Post by: cDubya on March 02, 2015, 07:47:55 AM
Don't imagine anyone will be killing this cute little guy, but he(she?) has been spotted multiple times here recently in southern WV...
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1375.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag451%2Fcolemanwmullins%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2FFB_IMG_1424914141850_zpsqbqco4ip.jpg&hash=f9f9e51bf71ca3c8f8eee73f6bb3949fddb4a0e4) (http://s1375.photobucket.com/user/colemanwmullins/media/Mobile%20Uploads/FB_IMG_1424914141850_zpsqbqco4ip.jpg.html)
This is my #1 favorite animal on planet earth
I would expect nothing less. If I see him around (and he doesn't eat me) I'll be sure to inform him!
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on March 02, 2015, 04:51:16 PM
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Post by: Bloodfart on August 26, 2015, 10:13:46 PM
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Post by: The Big Train on August 26, 2015, 10:16:58 PM
Post by: Bloodfart on August 27, 2015, 12:32:01 AM
Post by: Institutional Control on August 27, 2015, 08:36:23 AM
It's fun as eff tho.
Not for the dove.
Post by: RickRampus on August 27, 2015, 10:25:53 AM
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Post by: star seed 7 on August 27, 2015, 10:33:57 AM
Post by: Tobias on August 27, 2015, 07:21:18 PM
Post by: pissclams on August 27, 2015, 07:47:56 PM
I like to grab an extension cord and my spare microwave (keep it covered in the fall) and head to the backyard. load that sucker up with bird seed and #blessed blue jays and possums and crap
feels great when you're able to best these magnificent creatures on a level playing field such as you've described
while i don't microwave my prey, i have rigged a loud speaker in my backyard (i live in a rural community on several acres of land) to emit a super ultrasonic soundwave (that only animals can hear) when my motion detectors sense something on my land that is so loud it actually bursts the prey's ear drums and causes their ears to begin pouring out copious amounts of blood. the blood travels to the electric grid i have inlaid into the ground and acts as a conduit to the animals brains by which the electric grid sends jolts of 1 million volts in 3, 30 second increments. the first kills the animal, the 2nd cooks the animal, and the 3rd dries the cooked carcass into jerky that i eat when i go on my other hunting trips. makes for a great snack. call me old fashioned but i just love the sport of it all. go cats.
Post by: MakeItRain on September 13, 2015, 05:18:18 PM
http://www.vice.com/read/yucatan-animal-sacrifice-tradition-876
Post by: Saulbadguy on September 13, 2015, 05:23:05 PM
I like to grab an extension cord and my spare microwave (keep it covered in the fall) and head to the backyard. load that sucker up with bird seed and #blessed blue jays and possums and crap
feels great when you're able to best these magnificent creatures on a level playing field such as you've described
while i don't microwave my prey, i have rigged a loud speaker in my backyard (i live in a rural community on several acres of land) to emit a super ultrasonic soundwave (that only animals can hear) when my motion detectors sense something on my land that is so loud it actually bursts the prey's ear drums and causes their ears to begin pouring out copious amounts of blood. the blood travels to the electric grid i have inlaid into the ground and acts as a conduit to the animals brains by which the electric grid sends jolts of 1 million volts in 3, 30 second increments. the first kills the animal, the 2nd cooks the animal, and the 3rd dries the cooked carcass into jerky that i eat when i go on my other hunting trips. makes for a great snack. call me old fashioned but i just love the sport of it all. go cats.
:lol:
Post by: TownieCat on September 14, 2015, 02:59:33 PM
Post by: puniraptor on September 14, 2015, 03:11:39 PM
I killed a baby snake this morning. It was on the steps outside of my apartment so I bashed it with a wooden spoon. I regret nothing.
:sdeek:
Post by: mocat on September 14, 2015, 03:20:02 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on September 14, 2015, 03:20:54 PM
Post by: puniraptor on September 14, 2015, 03:24:31 PM
Post by: TownieCat on September 14, 2015, 03:26:10 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on September 14, 2015, 03:38:54 PM
Post by: The Big Train on September 14, 2015, 04:23:10 PM
Post by: slobber on September 14, 2015, 05:35:24 PM
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Post by: TownieCat on September 14, 2015, 05:45:02 PM
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Post by: SdK on September 14, 2015, 08:46:29 PM
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Post by: TownieCat on September 14, 2015, 09:39:34 PM
Says may not see his post tonight, or even this month, but when he does, look out.He have a pet snake or something?
Post by: XocolateThundarr on September 14, 2015, 09:53:36 PM
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Post by: Emo EMAW on October 05, 2015, 04:25:45 PM
I plan on packing in to bowhunt for elk in colorado this year. then I'm eyeing an archery moosehunt in thunder bay ontario next year.This (the processing of the meat) is something I don't mind paying for, especially for my first deer. Previous to this experience I wasn't even sure how much I would enjoy the meat. I was mostly after the antlers and the outdoor experience so the meat is a bonus. At this point I can say I would do it again, although the next animal could be a antelope or elk in another state, so that could change. $400 is a drop in the bucket compared to everything else I spend on this stuff.
Antelope hunting is about as hard as making a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, it is fun tho. Elk hunting is my favorite, lived around the mountains for a long time and very tiring going up and down the mountains but worth it. Never been moose hunting but I'm sure it would be a blast.
I want to backpack in way away from a road and camp and hunt and kill one and cut it into pieces and carry it out on my back.
Hey Rams tell us about your elk hunt in Colorado.
Post by: puniraptor on October 05, 2015, 04:32:58 PM
its going to be amazing to watch emo catch up on 2 years of posts
Post by: wetwillie on October 05, 2015, 07:10:01 PM
:lol:
its going to be amazing to watch emo catch up on 2 years of posts
He hasnt even been gone a year
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 06, 2015, 08:03:28 AM
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Post by: Emo EMAW on August 09, 2016, 09:34:44 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on August 09, 2016, 09:59:28 AM
Post by: CNS on August 09, 2016, 10:37:59 AM
Guys, I won the lottery. I drew an elk tag, in KANSAS!!! Wahoo!!! I've never won anything in my life like this, crazy.
Ft riley? Ft lv?
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Post by: Emo EMAW on August 09, 2016, 11:09:21 AM
Guys, I won the lottery. I drew an elk tag, in KANSAS!!! Wahoo!!! I've never won anything in my life like this, crazy.
Ft riley? Ft lv?
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Riley
Post by: RickRampus on August 09, 2016, 12:11:58 PM
Post by: The Big Train on August 09, 2016, 12:30:23 PM
Have fun Emo!
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Post by: steve dave on August 09, 2016, 12:51:32 PM
Post by: pissclams on August 09, 2016, 01:03:44 PM
Guys, I won the lottery. I drew an elk tag, in KANSAS!!! Wahoo!!! I've never won anything in my life like this, crazy.
why do they have a tag lottery?
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 09, 2016, 01:08:48 PM
Guys, I won the lottery. I drew an elk tag, in KANSAS!!! Wahoo!!! I've never won anything in my life like this, crazy.
why do they have a tag lottery?
Because the demand far exceeds the amount of sustainable supply.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 09, 2016, 01:09:57 PM
Post by: Tobias on August 09, 2016, 01:10:55 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 09, 2016, 01:15:32 PM
Do you have to buy a lottery ticket every year, or is it something you only have to pay for when you get selected?
I think it's a few bucks to apply ever year, maybe $20 tops. Then if you get drawn you get a letter that says you need to pay for your tag (mine is only $150).
Some states make you pay up front and then refund if you don't draw.
Post by: pissclams on August 09, 2016, 01:37:55 PM
do you think you could kill an elk with only an ATV?
i guarantee i could. two 5 foot long spears with tips covered in poison mounted to the front of the atv. drive around the forest searching for elk, find elk, gas it and ram elk with poison spears. drive elk corpse to pick up truck and demount elk corpse from spears into bed of truck. #profit.
Post by: wetwillie on August 09, 2016, 01:46:24 PM
do you think you could kill an elk with only an ATV?
i guarantee i could. two 5 foot long spears with tips covered in poison mounted to the front of the atv. drive around the forest searching for elk, find elk, gas it and ram elk with poison spears. drive elk corpse to pick up truck and demount elk corpse from spears into bed of truck. #profit.
Might as well mount machine gun turrets to it with a push button. Spears on an ATV, this guy...smdh. I mean gmafb clams.
Post by: Katpappy on August 09, 2016, 01:49:19 PM
but could you do it if you were "naked and afraid"?!do you think you could kill an elk with only an ATV?
i guarantee i could. two 5 foot long spears with tips covered in poison mounted to the front of the atv. drive around the forest searching for elk, find elk, gas it and ram elk with poison spears. drive elk corpse to pick up truck and demount elk corpse from spears into bed of truck. #profit.
Post by: pissclams on August 09, 2016, 02:00:02 PM
Post by: steve dave on August 09, 2016, 02:41:11 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 09, 2016, 02:45:08 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 09, 2016, 02:49:29 PM
do you think you could kill an elk with only an ATV?
i guarantee i could. two 5 foot long spears with tips covered in poison mounted to the front of the atv. drive around the forest searching for elk, find elk, gas it and ram elk with poison spears. drive elk corpse to pick up truck and demount elk corpse from spears into bed of truck. #profit.
Doesn't the poison ruin the meat, though?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 09, 2016, 02:53:11 PM
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Post by: Emo EMAW on August 09, 2016, 03:08:58 PM
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Post by: Emo EMAW on August 09, 2016, 03:20:54 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 09, 2016, 03:22:37 PM
Lots of states have outlawed drones you frigging poachers!
What a stupid law. Why not outlaw bullets, too? Where does it end?
Post by: The Big Train on August 09, 2016, 03:28:58 PM
Hopefully I get it with a bow. If it comes down to crunch time I'll take a 270.
Wait, so it's a combo license? I thought it could only be one or the other
Post by: Asteriskhead on August 09, 2016, 03:29:31 PM
Post by: pissclams on August 09, 2016, 03:30:56 PM
do you think you could kill an elk with only an ATV?
i guarantee i could. two 5 foot long spears with tips covered in poison mounted to the front of the atv. drive around the forest searching for elk, find elk, gas it and ram elk with poison spears. drive elk corpse to pick up truck and demount elk corpse from spears into bed of truck. #profit.
Doesn't the poison ruin the meat, though?
ya the last thing i would want to ruin is elk meat :jerk: :lol: :jerk:
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 09, 2016, 05:24:04 PM
Hopefully I get it with a bow. If it comes down to crunch time I'll take a 270.
Wait, so it's a combo license? I thought it could only be one or the other
I drew a general license so I can hunt with bow or muzzy during those seasons and then rifle during October. I'm still unsure if I can hunt with bow during rifle season. Really want to get with bow.
Post by: wetwillie on August 09, 2016, 05:27:22 PM
Post by: mhkpasa on August 09, 2016, 05:50:47 PM
The Fort Riley terrain will provide plenty of challenges :lol:
Post by: star seed 7 on August 09, 2016, 05:52:26 PM
Post by: pissclams on August 09, 2016, 05:52:37 PM
is it really going to be satisfying to kill an elk at 2000 ft of elevation?
what wouldn't be satisfying about killing an animal whose population is so low that winning the chance to kill one with all of the benefits that modern technology affords us is a once in a lifetime deal?
Post by: kim carnes on August 09, 2016, 06:23:58 PM
Post by: schreds21 on August 09, 2016, 10:37:13 PM
Guys, I won the lottery. I drew an elk tag, in KANSAS!!! Wahoo!!! I've never won anything in my life like this, crazy.Congrats EMO! That is a coveted tag!
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 09, 2016, 11:53:43 PM
Post by: kim carnes on August 10, 2016, 12:04:16 AM
Post by: Tobias on August 10, 2016, 12:05:35 AM
Lots of states have outlawed drones you frigging poachers!
What a stupid law. Why not outlaw bullets, too? Where does it end?
yes, v arbitrary line iyam
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 10, 2016, 08:02:52 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 10, 2016, 08:12:17 AM
Lots of states have outlawed drones you frigging poachers!
What a stupid law. Why not outlaw bullets, too? Where does it end?
yes, v arbitrary line iyam
I guess you just can't be smart and hunt at the same time.
Post by: puniraptor on August 10, 2016, 08:13:34 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 10, 2016, 08:18:37 AM
Lol, people don't hunt for the challenge, they hunt because they are sadistic and it's illegal to kill humansHot take
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 10, 2016, 08:20:31 AM
Post by: mocat on August 10, 2016, 08:25:27 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 10, 2016, 08:30:34 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 10, 2016, 08:32:57 AM
Are you allowed to sell this tag? If so, it seems like there would be a lot of money to be made here.
I can't (and wouldn't). As RickRampus said, it's a once in a lifetime type of tag. As you might imagine, if tags were transferable, there'd be businesses applying hoping to draw the tag which they would then sell to the highest bidder. That's not a very good model for several reasons.
There are some states that have a "governor's tag" or something like that, that goes to the highest bidder. I think the Arizona elk gov tag goes for a half million dollars every year, which all goes towards conservation, so it benefits the animals and the average Joe hunters.
Kansas has no interest in developing a growing herd of elk, even though the habitat and economics would probably support it, because farmers are concerned about crop damage. In SW KS a landowner can buy unlimited elk tags to keep elk off their crops.
Post by: star seed 7 on August 10, 2016, 08:34:55 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 10, 2016, 08:39:44 AM
Are you allowed to sell this tag? If so, it seems like there would be a lot of money to be made here.
I can't (and wouldn't). As RickRampus said, it's a once in a lifetime type of tag. As you might imagine, if tags were transferable, there'd be businesses applying hoping to draw the tag which they would then sell to the highest bidder. That's not a very good model for several reasons.
There are some states that have a "governor's tag" or something like that, that goes to the highest bidder. I think the Arizona elk gov tag goes for a half million dollars every year, which all goes towards conservation, so it benefits the animals and the average Joe hunters.
Kansas has no interest in developing a growing herd of elk, even though the habitat and economics would probably support it, because farmers are concerned about crop damage. In SW KS a landowner can buy unlimited elk tags to keep elk off their crops.
Can the SW Kansan then drive to Ft. Riley and kill his elk there?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 10, 2016, 08:46:38 AM
Why is murdering elk so much more boner causing than murdering other animals?Says the guy who loves the eff outta burgers.
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 10, 2016, 08:48:43 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 10, 2016, 08:49:22 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 10, 2016, 08:49:44 AM
Are you allowed to sell this tag? If so, it seems like there would be a lot of money to be made here.
I can't (and wouldn't). As RickRampus said, it's a once in a lifetime type of tag. As you might imagine, if tags were transferable, there'd be businesses applying hoping to draw the tag which they would then sell to the highest bidder. That's not a very good model for several reasons.
There are some states that have a "governor's tag" or something like that, that goes to the highest bidder. I think the Arizona elk gov tag goes for a half million dollars every year, which all goes towards conservation, so it benefits the animals and the average Joe hunters.
Kansas has no interest in developing a growing herd of elk, even though the habitat and economics would probably support it, because farmers are concerned about crop damage. In SW KS a landowner can buy unlimited elk tags to keep elk off their crops.
Can the SW Kansan then drive to Ft. Riley and kill his elk there?
Of course not.
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 10, 2016, 08:51:13 AM
I'm pretty chill. Just hate double standards.
Pro-tip: on goEMAW.com, people may post things they don't really believe. I have even done it myself.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 10, 2016, 08:52:34 AM
I'm pretty sure lib^7 posts everything he believes. You pit, come on. Everything is a liberal agenda with this guy. smdh.I'm pretty chill. Just hate double standards.
Pro-tip: on goEMAW.com, people may post things they don't really believe. I have even done it myself.
Post by: meow meow on August 10, 2016, 08:56:22 AM
Post by: mocat on August 10, 2016, 08:57:41 AM
eff YOU, YOU EAT BURGERS!!
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 10, 2016, 08:58:42 AM
I'm pretty sure lib^7 posts everything he believes. You pit, come on. Everything is a liberal agenda with this guy. smdh.I'm pretty chill. Just hate double standards.
Pro-tip: on goEMAW.com, people may post things they don't really believe. I have even done it myself.
lib^7 is the exception not the rule. A real bad egg if you ask me. Not even an organic free range type egg either. Like the stuffed in a cage and force fed steroid infused grain until you die kind of egg. Did you know he once threatened to murder me? Real talk. That's why I don't go to the fatty fest things.
Post by: Asteriskhead on August 10, 2016, 09:01:44 AM
Post by: puniraptor on August 10, 2016, 09:02:33 AM
Post by: meow meow on August 10, 2016, 09:02:46 AM
why is elk hunting the best hunting?
eff YOU, YOU EAT BURGERS!!
:lol:
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 10, 2016, 09:03:32 AM
So sadlib^7 is the exception not the rule. A real bad egg if you ask me. Not even an organic free range type egg either. Like the stuffed in a cage and force fed steroid infused grain until you die kind of egg. Did you know he once threatened to murder me? Real talk. That's why I don't go to the fatty fest things.I'm pretty sure lib^7 posts everything he believes. You pit, come on. Everything is a liberal agenda with this guy. smdh.I'm pretty chill. Just hate double standards.
Pro-tip: on goEMAW.com, people may post things they don't really believe. I have even done it myself.
Post by: star seed 7 on August 10, 2016, 09:04:31 AM
in his defense, lib7 just barely likes hamburgers
That's just slander
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 10, 2016, 09:04:37 AM
why is elk hunting the best hunting?Mocat always rushing to defend his boy lib. So sad. smdh. That's not what he said either. smdhextrasmdh
eff YOU, YOU EAT BURGERS!!
Post by: star seed 7 on August 10, 2016, 09:07:38 AM
why is elk hunting the best hunting?
eff YOU, YOU EAT BURGERS!!
I'm actually interested in the answer. Guy I used to work with would go bonkers about elk hunting in CO
Post by: puniraptor on August 10, 2016, 09:08:47 AM
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what does it mean?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 10, 2016, 09:13:13 AM
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Post by: CNS on August 10, 2016, 09:18:43 AM
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 10, 2016, 09:21:36 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 10, 2016, 09:22:06 AM
Emo, what is the success rate at Riley? Iirc, they only give out like 50 or 100 tags a year. Do you know how many elk are murked annually?
I asked the KDWP about success rates and she referred me to Riley biologist who hasn't returned my call. They only gave out 25 total tags this year. I think there are only ~175 animals on the fort. I would think 25 tags wouldn't be enough to keep 175 animals in check, but maybe enough wander off the fort and get shot by the landowner/farmers.
Post by: Tobias on August 10, 2016, 09:22:24 AM
What does elk taste like? It can't be that much better than deer.
it's not. the boner pheromones make it worse than deer. quite a pickle
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 10, 2016, 09:23:37 AM
There's a difference between murdering big game for sport vs. murdering (deer, elk, birds, etc.) for sport/food. Preserving your kill.
Who was this comment directed towards? People eat bears and lions, too.
Post by: CNS on August 10, 2016, 09:24:22 AM
Emo, what is the success rate at Riley? Iirc, they only give out like 50 or 100 tags a year. Do you know how many elk are murked annually?
I asked the KDWP about success rates and she referred me to Riley biologist who hasn't returned my call. They only gave out 25 total tags this year. I think there are only ~175 animals on the fort. I would think 25 tags wouldn't be enough to keep 175 animals in check, but maybe enough wander off the fort and get shot by the landowner/farmers.
Bull, cow, combo tag?
Also, I bet the fort has pretty strict rules about how, where, and when you can be places and stuff.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 10, 2016, 09:24:40 AM
Who are these ppl?There's a difference between murdering big game for sport vs. murdering (deer, elk, birds, etc.) for sport/food. Preserving your kill.
Who was this comment directed towards? People eat bears and lions, too.
Post by: CNS on August 10, 2016, 09:26:03 AM
Who are these ppl?There's a difference between murdering big game for sport vs. murdering (deer, elk, birds, etc.) for sport/food. Preserving your kill.
Who was this comment directed towards? People eat bears and lions, too.
Plenty of bear hunters eat bear, WC.
Post by: star seed 7 on August 10, 2016, 09:27:30 AM
He says he makes more selling the horns to some boutique dog bone company tho.
Post by: mocat on August 10, 2016, 09:28:24 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 10, 2016, 09:28:47 AM
Emo, what is the success rate at Riley? Iirc, they only give out like 50 or 100 tags a year. Do you know how many elk are murked annually?
I asked the KDWP about success rates and she referred me to Riley biologist who hasn't returned my call. They only gave out 25 total tags this year. I think there are only ~175 animals on the fort. I would think 25 tags wouldn't be enough to keep 175 animals in check, but maybe enough wander off the fort and get shot by the landowner/farmers.
Bull, cow, combo tag?
Also, I bet the fort has pretty strict rules about how, where, and when you can be places and stuff.
It's just an antlerless tag, so cow or calf. I can hunt with a bow or muzzy in September and then rifle in October. They do have strict rules. I have to register my firearm with the fort, take an in person safety class, call in to a number or check online for the areas I can hunt each day, and I think I have to check in and out each day. Also I think even if I'm bow hunting I have to wear orange if I'm on the move.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 10, 2016, 09:30:19 AM
like i'm going to spend all that money to get to Tanzania and go on a safari and shoot a lion and then not eat it smdhI would say the percentages of ppl who do this, far out weigh the ppl who actually eat a cat.
Post by: steve dave on August 10, 2016, 09:31:04 AM
Emo, what is the success rate at Riley? Iirc, they only give out like 50 or 100 tags a year. Do you know how many elk are murked annually?
I asked the KDWP about success rates and she referred me to Riley biologist who hasn't returned my call. They only gave out 25 total tags this year. I think there are only ~175 animals on the fort. I would think 25 tags wouldn't be enough to keep 175 animals in check, but maybe enough wander off the fort and get shot by the landowner/farmers.
Bull, cow, combo tag?
Also, I bet the fort has pretty strict rules about how, where, and when you can be places and stuff.
It's just an antlerless tag, so cow or calf. I can hunt with a bow or muzzy in September and then rifle in October. They do have strict rules. I have to register my firearm with the fort, take an in person safety class, call in to a number or check online for the areas I can hunt each day, and I think I have to check in and out each day. Also I think even if I'm bow hunting I have to wear orange if I'm on the move.
WHAT A RUSH!
Post by: kim carnes on August 10, 2016, 09:32:18 AM
There's a difference between murdering big game for sport vs. murdering (deer, elk, birds, etc.) for sport/food. Preserving your kill.
Who was this comment directed towards? People eat bears and lions, too.
Ya ok, that doesn't justify killing them
Post by: mocat on August 10, 2016, 09:33:10 AM
Post by: steve dave on August 10, 2016, 09:33:24 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 10, 2016, 09:33:54 AM
Post by: steve dave on August 10, 2016, 09:34:41 AM
Do ppl eat giraffe and elephants?
when you eat a lion you're really eating both
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 10, 2016, 09:39:39 AM
Who are these ppl?There's a difference between murdering big game for sport vs. murdering (deer, elk, birds, etc.) for sport/food. Preserving your kill.
Who was this comment directed towards? People eat bears and lions, too.
In the lower 48 you are required by law to eat the bear. In Alaska you don't have to but most people still do themselves or give the meat away. I've heard coastal black bear tastes like fish.
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 10, 2016, 09:41:03 AM
Do ppl eat giraffe and elephants?
Of course.
Post by: sys on August 10, 2016, 04:19:59 PM
wetwillie, they taste like cows, which is why everyone loves eating them so much.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on August 10, 2016, 04:58:36 PM
Post by: wetwillie on August 10, 2016, 05:05:00 PM
Post by: Gooch on August 10, 2016, 05:06:33 PM
eating a lion is where I draw the line. No carnivores for me.Fish eat other fish? Do you eat fish?
Post by: wetwillie on August 10, 2016, 05:10:02 PM
eating a lion is where I draw the line. No carnivores for me.Fish eat other fish? Do you eat fish?
Most fish are omnivores, but I typically don't consume them.
Post by: SdK on August 10, 2016, 07:30:19 PM
A lot of dumbasses in here, that are hating on hunting, that probably fish too.Catch and release bro.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 10, 2016, 08:19:15 PM
Post by: pissclams on August 10, 2016, 10:03:00 PM
Post by: bubbles4ksu on August 10, 2016, 11:02:52 PM
Post by: kim carnes on August 10, 2016, 11:52:42 PM
Congrats emo.
Post by: Bloodfart on August 11, 2016, 12:11:28 AM
Post by: wetwillie on August 11, 2016, 12:18:59 AM
Post by: SdK on August 11, 2016, 02:53:38 AM
A lot of those fish that you're catching and releasing suffer a tragic death from the fight on your hook/pole. :frown:I use perfect Jeremy Wade technique.
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 11, 2016, 08:53:38 AM
what are you going to shoot this thing with?
bow or 270
Post by: CNS on August 11, 2016, 09:00:10 AM
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Post by: Emo EMAW on August 11, 2016, 09:08:39 AM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on August 11, 2016, 02:23:33 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 11, 2016, 02:26:43 PM
There are elk in Riley County and it blows my mind. Are there bears and wolves and moose and stuff there too?This was my first initial thought as well.
Post by: steve dave on August 11, 2016, 02:28:48 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on August 11, 2016, 02:29:48 PM
Post by: steve dave on August 11, 2016, 02:30:43 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 11, 2016, 02:31:45 PM
there's a beaver damn in the creek behind my house. real live beavers live there. the HOA is trying to trap them because they're eating the crap out of the trees. pretty cool?
Hopefully the HOA is unsuccessful.
Post by: steve dave on August 11, 2016, 02:32:33 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on August 11, 2016, 02:37:04 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 11, 2016, 02:38:34 PM
There are elk in Riley County and it blows my mind. Are there bears and wolves and moose and stuff there too?
I don't believe so cf3. The elk were reintroduced there in the 1990's.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on August 11, 2016, 02:39:01 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 11, 2016, 02:42:16 PM
1) bison are native and are essential to the health of the tallgrass prairie ecosystem
2) they are delicious
3) there is no good reason not to do it
Post by: steve dave on August 11, 2016, 02:43:14 PM
It would be cool if they used that clubhouse to solve a mystery
some of the new construction sites in the neighborhood have had some recent vandalism. crap dumped out, lights turned on equipment and left on all night to run down the batteries, drawings on stuff with sharpie markers, the works. I've long suspected the older group of kids. they have ten speed bikes so getting from the scene of the crime to back home quick isn't a problem. and they have the motivation to do it because they're in that starting puberty age where they are basically a bunch of weirdos. anyway, I hope the neighborhood younger kids crack it wide open and I'm found out to be right on this.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on August 11, 2016, 02:51:22 PM
Post by: Gooch on August 11, 2016, 03:05:04 PM
Someone should lay down the law and tell them if they keep rough ridin' around there won't be anymore ACDC cover band concerts. That should get their attention.It would be cool if they used that clubhouse to solve a mystery
some of the new construction sites in the neighborhood have had some recent vandalism. crap dumped out, lights turned on equipment and left on all night to run down the batteries, drawings on stuff with sharpie markers, the works. I've long suspected the older group of kids. they have ten speed bikes so getting from the scene of the crime to back home quick isn't a problem. and they have the motivation to do it because they're in that starting puberty age where they are basically a bunch of weirdos. anyway, I hope the neighborhood younger kids crack it wide open and I'm found out to be right on this.
Post by: Skipper44 on August 11, 2016, 03:46:10 PM
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 14, 2016, 10:59:46 AM
no better feeling in the world than ripping an illicit heater in a treefort. hats off to those older kids, especially if they're making out down there too.
goddammit yes
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Post by: puniraptor on August 29, 2016, 06:42:47 AM
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Post by: HerrSonntag on August 29, 2016, 09:06:54 AM
Post by: HerrSonntag on August 29, 2016, 09:11:32 AM
We should do it for several reasons:I was taking a walk through Chisholm creek park in wichita, last Thursday, and there were a couple meadows that were just lousy with pig weed and other junk. Deer are the only ruminants in that park and they won't touch any of the nastier stuff, so i was thinking "They need some Bison up in here to clean this out!" But then i thought about a refrigerator sized animal plowing through the fence and onto K96 and it made me sad.
1) bison are native and are essential to the health of the tallgrass prairie ecosystem
2) they are delicious
3) there is no good reason not to do it
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 29, 2016, 09:57:34 AM
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 29, 2016, 03:52:56 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 29, 2016, 03:54:51 PM
I'd always heard bison are more likely to knock over a fence and get out than cattle, but that might just be a lie started by Big Meatgoat
Maybe. I've never seen a bison get loose though. And I've seen more than one family (in-laws) get together spoiled by someone looking out the window and saying "awwww sheeeet the cows are out again!"
Post by: bubbles4ksu on August 29, 2016, 04:02:07 PM
Post by: 8manpick on August 29, 2016, 04:31:28 PM
I exploded some tannerite with an AR, a Mosin, and a Garand last weekend. Very fun evening. No animals killed though. :frown:
A few years back, @manbearpig and I watched a guy blow up a junked car with some Tannerite and a .30-06. Very entertaining
Post by: wetwillie on August 29, 2016, 05:08:09 PM
I exploded some tannerite with an AR, a Mosin, and a Garand last weekend. Very fun evening. No animals killed though. :frown:
I've always wanted to shoot a mosin, how far were you taking shots from with it?
Post by: bubbles4ksu on August 29, 2016, 05:19:20 PM
A few years back, @manbearpig and I watched a guy blow up a junked car with some Tannerite and a .30-06. Very entertainingwe should do this someday with sharonspringscat or @manbearpig
I've always wanted to shoot a mosin, how far were you taking shots from with it?maybe 125yds. we really sucked with it and the M1. it was getting dark and we couldn't see where we were missing. we definitely did not do justice to either rifle. but the AR had a scope so we couldn't miss.
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Post by: The Big Train on September 16, 2016, 10:23:53 AM
With elk I've heard that people will pee around the kill site or wherever you hang the meat to keep coyotes and bears away (there is no possible way to get all the meat in one pack out).
There is if you aren't a gigantic pussy
Post by: star seed 7 on September 16, 2016, 10:29:35 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 16, 2016, 10:44:08 AM
He's a tiny tom cruise, leave him alone
I'm the same size as Tom Cruise.
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Post by: Skipper44 on September 18, 2016, 02:34:13 PM
With elk I've heard that people will pee around the kill site or wherever you hang the meat to keep coyotes and bears away (there is no possible way to get all the meat in one pack out).that sucks, seems like there is a biz opportunity for that service considering the costs just get to where it is needed
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 26, 2016, 04:32:11 PM
With elk I've heard that people will pee around the kill site or wherever you hang the meat to keep coyotes and bears away (there is no possible way to get all the meat in one pack out).that sucks, seems like there is a biz opportunity for that service considering the costs just get to where it is needed
You can indeed hire a meat packer. 400 bucks and up depending the location.
Post by: SEK_EMAW on September 27, 2016, 10:36:25 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 27, 2016, 10:55:55 AM
Post by: steve dave on September 27, 2016, 11:01:57 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 27, 2016, 11:05:02 AM
Post by: Tobias on September 27, 2016, 11:06:50 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on September 27, 2016, 11:31:11 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 27, 2016, 11:35:16 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on September 27, 2016, 11:37:06 AM
Post by: wetwillie on September 27, 2016, 12:06:32 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on September 27, 2016, 12:12:59 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 27, 2016, 12:25:35 PM
Post by: meow meow on September 27, 2016, 02:00:52 PM
How ironic that the unsuccessful one has more animal killing that the successful one. What a time to be alive
:lol:
Post by: schreds21 on September 27, 2016, 02:37:40 PM
How ironic that the unsuccessful one has more animal killing that the successful one. What a time to be aliveI've hunted all my life and only just now realized how much it has in common with KU football. It's all about the setting and success is not necessarily measured in wins (kills).
Post by: sys on September 27, 2016, 04:25:48 PM
Post by: puniraptor on September 28, 2016, 12:26:57 AM
This was a Colorado trip (I think)
oh ok. I was prepared to open an official inquiry into this Kansas Bear
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 28, 2016, 08:39:59 AM
i just get out of my car and start walking, shoot the first example of the target species i see, then go home and eat it. i can never sort out in my own mind if i should be lolling at or admiring the hunters like emo that make a huge production out of the whole thing.
I would have shot the first legal bull I could, there was just never an ethical opportunity. The tag I had only has a statewide 12% success rate, and talking to people we had a lot more action than most. Add to that we don't have the benefit of living there and keeping and eye on animals over the summer and getting to pounce on them opening day when they are stupid.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 28, 2016, 08:50:45 AM
Post by: Tobias on September 28, 2016, 08:57:40 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 28, 2016, 08:59:37 AM
the dead dogs are the bait, rage. smdh
Elk don't eat dog meat, though. The way I hunt, I don't even need to kill my dogs. They get to just stay home and wait on me to give them a tasty elk heart for dinner.
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 28, 2016, 09:20:31 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 28, 2016, 09:55:21 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on September 28, 2016, 09:58:48 AM
Also, nothing worthwhile comes easy. I embrace the suck. I like it. I like taking real risks. We live such comfortable lives that I relish the struggle, knowing that I have everything I need on my back, that only my wit and gumption can keep me alive.
Wit, gumption, and a few thousand dollars of top of the line survival gear
Post by: schreds21 on September 28, 2016, 10:18:33 AM
I'll post some pics here in a bit.:impatient:
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 28, 2016, 10:25:05 AM
Also, nothing worthwhile comes easy. I embrace the suck. I like it. I like taking real risks. We live such comfortable lives that I relish the struggle, knowing that I have everything I need on my back, that only my wit and gumption can keep me alive.
Wit, gumption, and a few thousand dollars of top of the line survival gear
Well, ya.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 28, 2016, 10:34:30 AM
Also, nothing worthwhile comes easy. I embrace the suck. I like it. I like taking real risks. We live such comfortable lives that I relish the struggle, knowing that I have everything I need on my back, that only my wit and gumption can keep me alive.Good for you. I like your passion. Not a lot of people have a passion for certain things in life and it makes me sad.
Post by: meow meow on September 28, 2016, 11:07:27 AM
Post by: RickRampus on September 28, 2016, 11:23:10 AM
Post by: sys on September 28, 2016, 04:00:08 PM
I would have shot the first legal bull I could, there was just never an ethical opportunity. The tag I had only has a statewide 12% success rate, and talking to people we had a lot more action than most. Add to that we don't have the benefit of living there and keeping and eye on animals over the summer and getting to pounce on them opening day when they are stupid.
just choosing to try to kill a bull elk with an arrow is like 80% of making a huge production out of it in my mind. choosing to do it 500 miles from where you live is another 10%.
Post by: Tobias on September 28, 2016, 04:04:10 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 28, 2016, 04:06:37 PM
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And a topo map of the area:
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Basically we had to get from point A to point B to start getting into animals, about 1 mile as the crow flies and 1500 feet of vertical gain until we drop off the edge. The shades represent the steepness. Basically no shade is walkable without trekking poles, yellow is poles and nervous moments, red gets to be like WTF are we doing, and purple is go cats obviously.
The first day we got to the top and before we dropped off we went to check on a spring which was basically a cattle tank full of cattle piss and crap. Disappointment. I had a filter but it's only good for bacteria (like giardia), but not viruses. Too risky. That meant we'd have to drop the 1500ft every other/third day to get to the creek to get water. That evening we elected to camp up high and glass into the land below to confirm animals were there before we dropped off.
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About this time I really noticed something was wrong. I had contracted hand-foot-mouth disease from my son and had a dozen blisters on the bottoms of each foot, a half dozen each hand, and some in my mouth, which basically made everything I did painful. But, press on I must, so I did.
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Anyway we saw animals for sure, a half dozen bulls, all 5x5's or larger, and a cow/calf combo.
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The ground was too rocky to sink tent stakes so we just slept under the stars that night. We actually spent the first three or four nights under the stars, made me wonder why I even bothered to bring a tent at all.
The next morning we saw most of the same animals, which told me they were in the area as a part of habit (not transient), so it was worth it to drop in. We only brought three days worth of food, and already through 1.5 days, I elected to go back to the truck and get 3 more days worth of food for both of us, stove fuel, TP, and another day's worth of water in case the creek in the bottom was no good, so then we could at least get out. That was a 5 hour round trip. I tried to take a short cut, which was probably shorter distance but more time.
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I met back up with my partner about 3PM and we hiked along the ridgeline until we saw these rocks stacked:
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This usually means something so we investigated, and found an old horse trail to the bottom, which meant we wouldn't have to slog through timber and brush (as much).
We get to the bench about 4PM, hike further down towards where we saw the elk, and for the heck of it we decide to try some cold calling. I suck at calling turkeys and coyotes but we try it anyway without much expectation. Twenty minutes in and my partner starts signalling an elk in coming in! He's the shooter, I'm the caller. Unfortunately the wind and sun meant he had to hide behind a bush, and the elk never gave him a clear shot. It came in and looped around to wind me, and I saw his horns coming over the top of the oak brush. I drew my bow and aligned my peep and pins and waited until I expected him to come into an opening for a clear shot. He came, but stopped at the opening at 12 yards and just looked at me. I had no shot at his lungs or heart (just neck and head), so I waited. A few seconds go by and he lunges back, I call more, he hangs out just 20 yards away for a few minutes, and eventually walks away. My partner never maneuvered to get a shot. He was in the opening dead center of pic.
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By this time it's 6PM or later and we start looking for a place to camp. Then, a bugle! I call, and two ridges down 300 yards away out walks a nice bull bugling his guts out. I call more, and he drops into the bottom and back up, now just one ridge over, 150 yards away. I call a few more times and see he's not interested in coming closer, so with the falling sun we decide to leave him be.
Camp that night.
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The next morning we hear some bugles and chase them down the major drainage, but they stop once we are getting closer. The wind was getting swirly so we decide to find water. We spend an hour or so at the creek filtering about 20 liters of water which should get us through a couple days. On the way back up we cold call some more, no luck (probably too hot).
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At about 2PM we're resting in the shadows of some oak brush when we hear a faint bugle, so we move in that direction. A few minutes later another, and then another. I creep along and eventually glass the bull bedded 172 yards away. We watch a while and he bugles every few minutes and I decide he is alone, which plays into our strategy. A lone bull, you want to pretend to be a cow elk to get him horny to come to you. A bull with cows, you want to sneak in close and then rip off a loud bugle pretending to be another bull elk there to steal his ladies, so he must defend their honor and come and fight. So I start cow calling, he bugles, more cow calls, more bugles, but he's showing no interest in getting up. Further down the way we heard another bugle, too. So I start raking this tree, making all sorts of commotion, breaking branches, stomping around, huffing and puffing, the works. He bugles back, the other bull down the way rakes, too, but still no real action. Then, my partner starts signalling to me ELK ELK. The other bull had come in silent and was now 20 yards from my partner staring right at him. Then he's looking at me. He eventually turns his head and walks behind a juniper tree, so I crouch down and grab my bow and range a bush, 43 yards away I guess, and I draw. Out he steps broadside, but I can only see his head/neck and the top third of his body. There is a bush obscuring his vitals at 20 yards. So I wait, I'm prepared to hold that bow back as long as it takes. He eventually winds my partner and buggers. eff.
So we focus our attention back on the bedded bull, who eventually stands and begins to feed. We realize he has as least two cows with him, so we try to get in close, but they aren't having that and they walk off. eff crap. That evening we glass a nice bull across the drainage running cows hard, but it's too late to make a play. Oh I also found three toads further to the east, well over a mile away. TOADS. BIG.
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The next morning not much action, and while we're cold calling some dude comes walking up the trail. We talk a bit, he tells us there is a spring just 200 yards from our camp. :excited: but also :facepalm: We agree to stay east of the major drainage and he'll stay west. Not much more action that day, we visit the spring in the afternoon and get more water.
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That night my stomach started feeling bad, I'll spare you the details but I victimized my underwear and had to roll al fresco the next morning. So we're up first light headed towards a bugle, and then we hear another one in the opposite direction but upwind so we change course. Bugle, move, bugle, move. The terrain has some curvature so even 100 yards away we couldn't see this bull, but I could hear him and his cows mew mew mew mew mew just fine. I lost my mind and was a dumb ass and cow called to him, and he (I think) basically spooked and rounded up his 25 cows and moved off in a hurry, and he was rough ridin' HUGE. Main frame 6x7 with great mass and he had some extra crap going on with his fronts, may have been an 8x9. Just a beast of a bull. I thought I knew where he was headed so we chased him. Turns out he was headed to the next county. We chased for two miles and could never catch up, glassed him and his string of cows moving off in the distance. Heart break. Despair. Self-loathing. Why the eff did I cow call? I still don't know. I lost my crap.
That evening pretty much same scenario, trying to make a play on that same original bull, but we switch directions and chase this other elk for about two miles. He's bugling and moving away and we're running trying to catch him. Just when we get close I come around a bend and see two cows and rip off a huge challenge bugle expecting the bull to come ready to fight. Instead it's just a wimpy spike bull (not legal) and I let them go. eff crap eff.
We get some rain, have to set up tents.
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The next morning we try for that same original bull who is a pretty consistent bugler, but by the time we get there the wind is swirling and we decide to pause chase. Lots of rubs all over.
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We're almost out of food, and I offer to go back to the truck again and get more, but my partner thinks we ought to move on as the action isn't as good, so we pack up and leave. It was a beautiful pack out with all the colors.
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My pack at the saddle. I really wanted to be hauling out meat, but I didn't have what it takes apparently.
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We scout some new areas that night, no bugles, and a massive storm rolls through (we sleep in the truck, awful). Next morning glass the local elk herd (100+ animals) on private ground.
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Eat at the local greasy spoon, the waitress was impressed how much I put away (chicken friend steak, two eggs, hash browns, two pieces of toast with butter AND jam, two biscuits with butter and honey, and two pieces of pie--one apple one cherry). Felt good to deuce on a regular toilet.
We decided to hunt an area we hunted in last year, still rainy.
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Long story short, no recent elk sign. Bear went through our camp, pooped. We packed out, headed home.
I have another cool video I'll post once it's done uploading. I know I know TLDR.
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 28, 2016, 04:09:17 PM
I would have shot the first legal bull I could, there was just never an ethical opportunity. The tag I had only has a statewide 12% success rate, and talking to people we had a lot more action than most. Add to that we don't have the benefit of living there and keeping and eye on animals over the summer and getting to pounce on them opening day when they are stupid.
just choosing to try to kill a bull elk with an arrow is like 80% of making a huge production out of it in my mind. choosing to do it 500 miles from where you live is another 10%.
Archery tags are easy to get. If I could shoot elk with a rifle close to home I would. I've chosen the option which gives me the highest chance of success as close to home as possible.
Post by: puniraptor on September 28, 2016, 04:14:13 PM
Post by: CNS on September 28, 2016, 04:22:38 PM
Beats going home with nothing but poop in your pants.
Post by: steve dave on September 28, 2016, 04:24:24 PM
Post by: steve dave on September 28, 2016, 04:24:46 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on September 28, 2016, 04:27:46 PM
Post by: steve dave on September 28, 2016, 04:28:12 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 28, 2016, 04:34:52 PM
Do I even have to say it?
I'm sorry I didn't post pictures of my food. It was pretty disgusto and right up your alley.
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 28, 2016, 04:35:53 PM
You should throw an arrow through a bush next time. May not be perfect, but may work fine. I mean, if he is right on the bush, as long as you don't hit trunk or limb, you will still hit pretty close to your aim.
Beats going home with nothing but poop in your pants.
Unethical. :nono: Risk of wounding an animal is too high. Wounding an animal is worse than going home with nothing (but poop in my pants).
Post by: sys on September 28, 2016, 04:37:13 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 28, 2016, 04:38:29 PM
Post by: meow meow on September 28, 2016, 04:39:32 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 28, 2016, 04:42:16 PM
Post by: CNS on September 28, 2016, 04:46:07 PM
You should throw an arrow through a bush next time. May not be perfect, but may work fine. I mean, if he is right on the bush, as long as you don't hit trunk or limb, you will still hit pretty close to your aim.
Beats going home with nothing but poop in your pants.
Unethical. :nono: Risk of wounding an animal is too high. Wounding an animal is worse than going home with nothing (but poop in my pants).
Hmmm....IDK. I mean, he may run towards the truck for like an hour and die. That would be pretty alright!
Post by: sys on September 28, 2016, 04:48:52 PM
Post by: CNS on September 28, 2016, 04:51:34 PM
Post by: sys on September 28, 2016, 04:52:02 PM
Post by: yoga-like_abana on September 28, 2016, 05:09:37 PM
Post by: puniraptor on September 28, 2016, 06:14:44 PM
1, when you pooped your pants
2, chicken fried steak
Post by: IPA4Me on September 28, 2016, 06:32:14 PM
Post by: schreds21 on September 28, 2016, 08:25:16 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 28, 2016, 09:52:11 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 28, 2016, 09:58:24 PM
Post by: SdK on September 28, 2016, 10:29:23 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 29, 2016, 09:37:45 AM
1) I had found a place with animals, including trophy animals, with almost no other hunting pressure, and a relatively short pack-in (2ish miles and 1500ft elevation is cake compared to wilderness hunts). I think we made our pack out in less than 3 hours. I also think we could do it in the dark if we had to. I can buy this tag any year I want, I don't have to draw one. Also, there is water in an otherwise high-desert type environment. That's crucial. You don't want to expend all this effort just to drink.
2) I successfully called in two bulls, and got to full draw twice.
3) We were in to animals almost every day.
It's really painful for me to invest all this effort in preparation and not kill something. So many nights I was at the gym grinding while my wife and kid slept. Or I was up late looking at Google Earth trying to find places to go. Or I was on the phone with everyone from the game warden to outfitters to biologists to asst director of roads folks. It's a big time and especially emotional investment. This was my year. And now I have to stew over some things I might now do differently. Add to it this is time away from my family. When we packed out I called home (from the high spot where I got service) and my wife told me my 2 y/o son kept saying "daddy come home." That kills me that I would willfully choose to be away from them and not achieve my goal. I failed them in that respect. I know I could have hunted harder, gotten up earlier, stayed out later, bullied my partner into doing it my way, etc etc. The only thing I know to do is to re-double my efforts and try again next year, and hopefully with my additional knowledge and experience I can get it done. I will punish myself over the next year so that I am totally ready. This is my vow.
Post by: kim carnes on September 29, 2016, 09:53:56 AM
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Post by: Emo EMAW on September 29, 2016, 03:39:48 PM
It wasn't the spring water that made me sick. After all we took that water from the source, and it hasn't seen light since before Jesus Christ was just a twinkle in His Daddy's eye. It was my protein chowder that did it. It contains whole foods and is supposed to stay refrigerated. I guess it spoiled after a few days. I dumped the rest that I had and drank many liters of that water with no apparent adverse affects.
Post by: star seed 7 on September 29, 2016, 03:43:39 PM
and do many powders need to be refrigerated? (serious question)
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 29, 2016, 03:44:32 PM
sorry
and do many powders need to be refrigerated? (serious question)
It's the only one I've come across that's like that.
Post by: Tobias on September 29, 2016, 03:47:35 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 29, 2016, 03:58:31 PM
1 is more of a meal replacement in the morning, 150 calories per ~30g scoop.
1 is more of a pure protein/after workout chowder, only 110 calories per ~30g scoop.
So I decided to risk it for the extra 80 calories per day (2 scoops), which if I had to replace elsewhere would have meant an additional 6.4 ounces. In retrospect it was a poor decision. :bs:
Post by: Asteriskhead on September 29, 2016, 05:58:16 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 10, 2016, 09:15:12 AM
Aaaaand I just realized my grill is broken. eff. Was planning on fresh steaks this week.
Post by: star seed 7 on October 10, 2016, 09:42:57 AM
Post by: Gooch on October 10, 2016, 09:44:55 AM
Do doe steaks make the entire neighborhood smell like that gross deer meat smell?Generally yes. :barf:
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 10, 2016, 10:00:23 AM
Do doe steaks make the entire neighborhood smell like that gross deer meat smell?
Dunno, this will be my first time eating doe. Have heard they taste better than old buck which is what I'm used to eating (and love). If you get all the fat out it's better than beef IMO.
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Post by: Emo EMAW on October 21, 2016, 09:08:20 AM
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Post by: Gooch on October 21, 2016, 09:27:28 AM
Post by: HerrSonntag on October 21, 2016, 09:55:45 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 21, 2016, 12:00:02 PM
Emo, do you have any issues with breaking down your doe so quickly after harvest?
Not really. It was the first one I've done by myself. I do the gutless method. It was kinda warm and there were a lot of mosquitos and it was dark and all of that was annoying. I stuck myself a couple times with my knife point but didn't bleed. Fort Riley lets you drive your vehicle to the kill site so that's what I did. I could have loaded her whole or have gutted her and then loaded but 1) I hate gutting, 2) I wanted to get the hide off ASAP to get the meat cooling, and 3) I didn't want all these extra pieces ending up at my house. For a few days my truck smelled like dead deer because I didn't get to wash off my hands that good and I got it on the steering wheel. It kinda smelled good and bad. I really like taking them apart, aside from like the bugs and darkness. I like butchering too. I don't know how many more deer I will shoot when it's hot outside though. Better when cold. I figure it takes about 15-20 man hours to get a deer from dead carcass in the field to meat packaged ready for consumption. Maybe more.
Post by: HerrSonntag on October 21, 2016, 01:12:29 PM
I'd always red that if you quarter/butcher the harvest before rigor mortis sets in, the meat will seize up. Do you just butcher at the joints? I suppose you wouldn't really have this problem if you left all the large muscle groups intact.Emo, do you have any issues with breaking down your doe so quickly after harvest?
Not really. It was the first one I've done by myself. I do the gutless method. It was kinda warm and there were a lot of mosquitos and it was dark and all of that was annoying. I stuck myself a couple times with my knife point but didn't bleed. Fort Riley lets you drive your vehicle to the kill site so that's what I did. I could have loaded her whole or have gutted her and then loaded but 1) I hate gutting, 2) I wanted to get the hide off ASAP to get the meat cooling, and 3) I didn't want all these extra pieces ending up at my house. For a few days my truck smelled like dead deer because I didn't get to wash off my hands that good and I got it on the steering wheel. It kinda smelled good and bad. I really like taking them apart, aside from like the bugs and darkness. I like butchering too. I don't know how many more deer I will shoot when it's hot outside though. Better when cold. I figure it takes about 15-20 man hours to get a deer from dead carcass in the field to meat packaged ready for consumption. Maybe more.
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 21, 2016, 01:27:26 PM
I'd always red that if you quarter/butcher the harvest before rigor mortis sets in, the meat will seize up. Do you just butcher at the joints? I suppose you wouldn't really have this problem if you left all the large muscle groups intact.Emo, do you have any issues with breaking down your doe so quickly after harvest?
Not really. It was the first one I've done by myself. I do the gutless method. It was kinda warm and there were a lot of mosquitos and it was dark and all of that was annoying. I stuck myself a couple times with my knife point but didn't bleed. Fort Riley lets you drive your vehicle to the kill site so that's what I did. I could have loaded her whole or have gutted her and then loaded but 1) I hate gutting, 2) I wanted to get the hide off ASAP to get the meat cooling, and 3) I didn't want all these extra pieces ending up at my house. For a few days my truck smelled like dead deer because I didn't get to wash off my hands that good and I got it on the steering wheel. It kinda smelled good and bad. I really like taking them apart, aside from like the bugs and darkness. I like butchering too. I don't know how many more deer I will shoot when it's hot outside though. Better when cold. I figure it takes about 15-20 man hours to get a deer from dead carcass in the field to meat packaged ready for consumption. Maybe more.
I just took off the quarters, so the muscles still stayed attached to the leg bones. I have heard the same as you. I have heard if you leave them on the bone a few days then the muscles relax again and can be butchered no problem.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 25, 2016, 05:18:52 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 25, 2016, 05:40:17 PM
What's with this proposed Kansas constitutional amendment about hunting?? Should I vote yes or no?
I don't think it makes any difference either way.
Post by: CNS on October 25, 2016, 05:40:55 PM
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Post by: Tobias on October 25, 2016, 05:47:38 PM
Post by: puniraptor on October 26, 2016, 03:06:20 AM
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Post by: puniraptor on October 26, 2016, 07:45:25 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 26, 2016, 07:52:25 AM
Here's my take: this is a defensive amendment aimed at putting something in place that would be hard to get rid of much further down the road. It doesn't really do anything now. I'm voting yes. The extreme opposite of a place like Kansas would be a place like California, where anti-hunters have successfully chipped away at the edges of hunting. For example, they've outlawed mountain lion hunting, and now deer populations are at all-time lows, and the state spends many millions of dollars hiring professionals to take out problem lions. Same with some forms of bear hunting there.
The wildlife belongs to the public, the state is charged with managing the wildlife according to sound and proven conservation science. Without hunting, you'll end up with lots of very controversial deer shoots like what has happened at Shawnee Mission Park. No one wants that. Vote yes Mrs Gooch.
Post by: HerrSonntag on October 26, 2016, 07:59:12 AM
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§21. Right of public to hunt, fish and trap wildlife. The people have the right to hunt, fish and trap, including by the use of traditional methods, subject to reasonable laws and regulations that promote wildlife conservation and management and that preserve the future of hunting and fishing. Public hunting and fishing shall be a preferred means of managing and controlling wildlife. This section shall not be construed to modify any provision of law relating to trespass, property rights or water resources
Doesn't seem subversive or open to abuse.
Post by: puniraptor on October 26, 2016, 08:03:38 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 26, 2016, 08:07:23 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 26, 2016, 08:15:47 AM
FWIW I would be more comfortable with sensible gun control laws if this amendment were on the books.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 26, 2016, 08:30:35 AM
(Automatic weapons is an extreme example. There are other gun restrictions that this same reasoning could apply to.)
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 26, 2016, 08:32:09 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 26, 2016, 08:36:41 AM
Well I don't know how they could, especially considering the regulation on the automatic weapons is a federal regulation. A state amendment isn't going to change that.
OK, well automatic weapons is a bad example then. I don't know enough gun laws to make a good example. Let's say that someone proposed a law that said you must be trained in gun safety to conceal carry (crazy, I know). But then that law would be unconstitutional because "This is the gun a traditionally hunt with and yes I traditionally conceal my weapon when I hunt."
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 26, 2016, 08:40:15 AM
You do know that today you can carry, concealed or otherwise, with absolutely no training, right?
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 26, 2016, 08:41:52 AM
I really think you're making leaps here.
You do know that today you can carry, concealed or otherwise, with absolutely no training, right?
Yes, I know that is why I said "Let's say someone proposed a law..." It was an imaginary future where people in Kansas had gained some sanity.
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 26, 2016, 08:46:13 AM
It's really a pretty basic amendment in it's language. People just want to go hunt and provide for their families. NO NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES as I believe someone once so eloquently said.
Post by: Tobias on October 26, 2016, 09:12:05 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 26, 2016, 09:21:48 AM
I really think you're making leaps here.
You do know that today you can carry, concealed or otherwise, with absolutely no training, right?
Also, people can kill animals in Kansas right now.
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 26, 2016, 09:27:31 AM
I really think you're making leaps here.
You do know that today you can carry, concealed or otherwise, with absolutely no training, right?
Also, people can kill animals in Kansas right now.
Is this your pivot? The amendment would make it a right to hunt/fish, not just legal.
Post by: Tobias on October 26, 2016, 09:30:18 AM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 26, 2016, 09:38:36 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 26, 2016, 09:39:35 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 26, 2016, 09:44:11 AM
I'm not sure if God intended hunting/fishing to be a right. I'm sure he didn't intend trapping to be a right because it is pretty cruel.
God intended man to have dominion over the animals.
Trapping is the only way to keep some populations in check. Even if it were outlawed for citizens it would still get done by contractors of the state, only on taxpayer's dime.
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 26, 2016, 09:45:29 AM
Post by: XocolateThundarr on October 26, 2016, 09:53:15 AM
Hi Mrs Gooch, do you eat meat of any sort? Have any sort of dietary restrictions, self-imposed or other?
Man I hope Katdaddy doesn't see this post.
Post by: HerrSonntag on October 26, 2016, 09:57:54 AM
Not sure how people think this is open to abuse. It sounds like theres a different narrative going on.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 26, 2016, 10:45:58 AM
One time my boss brought in some deer jerky :lick: but that deer was killed by a car.
The word "reasonable" is open to interpretation
Post by: HerrSonntag on October 26, 2016, 10:52:29 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 26, 2016, 11:02:45 AM
Post by: wetwillie on October 26, 2016, 11:08:41 AM
Post by: EMAWican on October 26, 2016, 11:14:02 AM
I asked if you ate meat because store bought meat is from animals that are treated pretty cruelly. It seems hypocritical to be okay with that but against trapping for cruelty reasons. Even trapped animals are treated more humanely than many farm animals.
I've never seen a cow or pig chew its leg off to get out of a snare.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 26, 2016, 11:20:13 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 26, 2016, 11:27:09 AM
I asked if you ate meat because store bought meat is from animals that are treated pretty cruelly. It seems hypocritical to be okay with that but against trapping for cruelty reasons. Even trapped animals are treated more humanely than many farm animals.
I've never seen a cow or pig chew its leg off to get out of a snare.
Is this the hill you want to die on?
Post by: Tobias on October 26, 2016, 11:30:23 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 26, 2016, 11:31:22 AM
I don't think the right to eat meat is in the constitution and I did not say it is a right.
Neither am I. I'm saying you're a hypocrite.
Post by: star seed 7 on October 26, 2016, 11:34:00 AM
Post by: EMAWican on October 26, 2016, 11:36:48 AM
I asked if you ate meat because store bought meat is from animals that are treated pretty cruelly. It seems hypocritical to be okay with that but against trapping for cruelty reasons. Even trapped animals are treated more humanely than many farm animals.
I've never seen a cow or pig chew its leg off to get out of a snare.
Is this the hill you want to die on?
I'm just trying to follow the discussion on how trapping for fur equates to food animals and animal treatment, and how that ties into the proposed constitutional right to hunt and fish.
The question that people should ask themselves before they vote is: Do I hunt or fish? Then vote accordingly.
Post by: CNS on October 26, 2016, 11:37:49 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on October 26, 2016, 11:39:20 AM
Skydiving?
LARPing?
Pick up basketball?
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 26, 2016, 11:46:32 AM
What other currently legal hobbies should be a right?
Skydiving?
LARPing?
Pick up basketball?
Yes, this is what I am saying. Just because something should be allowed does not mean it should be a constitutional right.
Post by: EMAWican on October 26, 2016, 11:47:10 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 26, 2016, 11:47:17 AM
I asked if you ate meat because store bought meat is from animals that are treated pretty cruelly. It seems hypocritical to be okay with that but against trapping for cruelty reasons. Even trapped animals are treated more humanely than many farm animals.
I've never seen a cow or pig chew its leg off to get out of a snare.
Is this the hill you want to die on?
I'm just trying to follow the discussion on how trapping for fur equates to food animals and animal treatment, and how that ties into the proposed constitutional right to hunt and fish.
The question that people should ask themselves before they vote is: Do I hunt or fish? Then vote accordingly.
I have never seen a documented case of an animal actually chewing it's way out of a snare. It's a myth.
Anyway, another question might be "do I somehow benefit by hunting or fishing?" Or "does someone I care about enjoy hunting or fishing?" Or "is hunting or fishing the most ethical and humane method of controlling wildlife populations?" Or "do I want my state spending tax dollars to fight frivolous lawsuits brought before it by animal rights activists?"
Post by: ChiComCat on October 26, 2016, 12:04:24 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on October 26, 2016, 12:09:54 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 26, 2016, 12:11:03 PM
I don't think the right to eat meat is in the constitution and I did not say it is a right.
Neither am I. I'm saying you're a hypocrite.
How am I a hypocrite? I never said that traping should be illegal.
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 26, 2016, 01:01:30 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 26, 2016, 01:15:22 PM
What other currently legal hobbies should be a right?
Skydiving?
LARPing?
Pick up basketball?
Put those on the ballot, and I'll vote yes to all 3.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 26, 2016, 01:19:05 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 26, 2016, 01:22:17 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 26, 2016, 01:24:04 PM
I'd like to add the right to have a chalk-free driveway.
Like if you catch kids writing on your driveway, you could sue their parents for the $0.25 worth of water it takes to rinse the chalk off?
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 26, 2016, 01:32:46 PM
I'd like to add the right to have a chalk-free driveway.
Like if you catch kids writing on your driveway, you could sue their parents for the $0.25 worth of water it takes to rinse the chalk off?
Like it would not be illegal to run over someone who is sitting in my driveway writing on it with chalk.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 26, 2016, 01:34:41 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 26, 2016, 01:35:39 PM
Post by: CNS on October 26, 2016, 01:37:18 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 26, 2016, 01:37:31 PM
If someone infringes on your right to life then you can shoot them. Same thing (if a chalk-free driveway was a right).
Well, yeah. I just don't think you would ever get your amendment passed. I think maybe if you made it something like "right to have a pet" and then chained a pitbull in your front yard where it could reach the driveway to just kill the kids writing on it, you'd have a better chance.
Post by: star seed 7 on October 26, 2016, 01:44:50 PM
I mean, my god, imagine saying SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED to your HOA when you are putting up your brand new basketball goal. We don't have enough rights, really.
HOA's are voluntary contracts
Post by: SdK on October 26, 2016, 01:48:18 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on October 26, 2016, 01:49:43 PM
Why is God in this conversation all. Maybe we humans should learn to live in harmony with the other animals that inhabit this beautiful Earth instead of killing because populations are too high? How is a population too high? Will nature not correct this? Does man need to determine how many animals are allowed to live? eff all that mess. If a deer totals your car, tough crap. Mountain lion mauls your kid, tough crap. Nature running it's course.
Humans killing animals isn't nature running it's course?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 26, 2016, 01:51:00 PM
I mean, my god, imagine saying SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED to your HOA when you are putting up your brand new basketball goal. We don't have enough rights, really.
HOA's are voluntary contracts
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 26, 2016, 01:51:06 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 26, 2016, 01:52:10 PM
I mean, my god, imagine saying SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED to your HOA when you are putting up your brand new basketball goal. We don't have enough rights, really.
HOA's are voluntary contracts
signed under duress
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 26, 2016, 01:53:50 PM
Post by: HerrSonntag on October 26, 2016, 02:23:45 PM
If someone infringes on your right to life then you can shoot them. Same thing (if a chalk-free driveway was a right).You don't have the right to shoot people who infringe on your rights, not sure where this is coming from.
This whole conversation is getting very silly.
Post by: XocolateThundarr on October 26, 2016, 03:15:21 PM
Post by: sys on October 26, 2016, 03:17:56 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 26, 2016, 03:18:41 PM
I, for one, would like to see an amendment that allows me to kill more than 2 turkeys in the Spring. I mean, how are those two birds going to keep me in turkey until the fall season?
Is there a way for me to transfer my two turkey allotment to you?
Post by: XocolateThundarr on October 26, 2016, 03:29:01 PM
I, for one, would like to see an amendment that allows me to kill more than 2 turkeys in the Spring. I mean, how are those two birds going to keep me in turkey until the fall season?
Is there a way for me to transfer my two turkey allotment to you?
:excited:
Post by: CNS on October 26, 2016, 03:29:29 PM
I, for one, would like to see an amendment that allows me to kill more than 2 turkeys in the Spring. I mean, how are those two birds going to keep me in turkey until the fall season?
Yep, if there is one thing keeping the KS hunter down, it's the antiquated turkey tag limits. :curse:
I mean, I see like a bagillion turkey daily.
Also, new conspiracy theory: When I was first hunting like almost 30yrs ago, pheasant and quail were awesome but you never saw a turkey. Now they are exactly opposite where we hunt. WTF? Is KS in the pocket of Big Turkey? Are the Turks terrorizing the other birds?
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 26, 2016, 03:45:23 PM
I, for one, would like to see an amendment that allows me to kill more than 2 turkeys in the Spring. I mean, how are those two birds going to keep me in turkey until the fall season?
Yep, if there is one thing keeping the KS hunter down, it's the antiquated turkey tag limits. :curse:
I mean, I see like a bagillion turkey daily.
Also, new conspiracy theory: When I was first hunting like almost 30yrs ago, pheasant and quail were awesome but you never saw a turkey. Now they are exactly opposite where we hunt. WTF? Is KS in the pocket of Big Turkey? Are the Turks terrorizing the other birds?
Hi CNS,
Basically those trees that were little 30 years ago are now 30 years older and bigger and can support animals like turkeys and then varmints that prey on game bird eggs (like raccoons and possums and such).
Post by: puniraptor on October 26, 2016, 03:52:35 PM
Post by: HerrSonntag on October 26, 2016, 04:05:50 PM
Post by: CNS on October 26, 2016, 04:21:02 PM
Pheasants are illegal immigrants from China
Why do you think us Kansans are out there trying to kill them?
Post by: CNS on October 26, 2016, 04:23:29 PM
Were trees smaller 30 years ago? i mean, i can't speak for the arboreal state of KS before my birth, but i think they had trees back then too.
Well, yeah. I mean, especially where we hunted quail. I don't think the turkeys were just biding their time until a few more trees grew. :dunno:
Post by: XocolateThundarr on October 26, 2016, 04:36:20 PM
Post by: sys on October 26, 2016, 04:37:12 PM
Post by: XocolateThundarr on October 26, 2016, 04:51:44 PM
turkeys were hunted/habit altered to near extinction in ks. they were reintroduced in the 50s and have done really well. the increase in woodland habitat that emo talks about definitely helped, but a lot of that woodland habitat had already succeeded by 30 years ago, the turkeys just hadn't completed their occupation of it yet.
#occupywoodlands
Post by: Asteriskhead on October 26, 2016, 05:03:15 PM
Unrelated to the current discussion......but I am totally stoked that we have a resurgence of quail in our area. We also have eleventy-billion turkeys in our area too.
Calling turkeys during the spring season used to be my favorite part of the hunting I did, other than the time spent with my grandpa, dad, and best friend growing up. I don't like getting out of bed that early for anything though.
Post by: SdK on October 27, 2016, 04:25:20 AM
No.Why is God in this conversation all. Maybe we humans should learn to live in harmony with the other animals that inhabit this beautiful Earth instead of killing because populations are too high? How is a population too high? Will nature not correct this? Does man need to determine how many animals are allowed to live? eff all that mess. If a deer totals your car, tough crap. Mountain lion mauls your kid, tough crap. Nature running it's course.
Humans killing animals isn't nature running it's course?
Post by: star seed 7 on October 27, 2016, 07:45:44 AM
Post by: cDubya on October 27, 2016, 07:46:04 AM
No.Why is God in this conversation all. Maybe we humans should learn to live in harmony with the other animals that inhabit this beautiful Earth instead of killing because populations are too high? How is a population too high? Will nature not correct this? Does man need to determine how many animals are allowed to live? eff all that mess. If a deer totals your car, tough crap. Mountain lion mauls your kid, tough crap. Nature running it's course.
Humans killing animals isn't nature running it's course?
Animals kill other animals to survive. And at one point we humans had to do the same thing. Some of us still do. Not to "survive" necessarily, but to supplement survival. I think its healthy if done in a humane and monitored fashion. My :th_twocents:
Post by: mhkpasa on October 27, 2016, 08:13:40 AM
No.Why is God in this conversation all. Maybe we humans should learn to live in harmony with the other animals that inhabit this beautiful Earth instead of killing because populations are too high? How is a population too high? Will nature not correct this? Does man need to determine how many animals are allowed to live? eff all that mess. If a deer totals your car, tough crap. Mountain lion mauls your kid, tough crap. Nature running it's course.
Humans killing animals isn't nature running it's course?
Animals kill other animals to survive. And at one point we humans had to do the same thing. Some of us still do. Not to "survive" necessarily, but to supplement survival. I think its healthy if done in a humane and monitored fashion. My :th_twocents:
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 27, 2016, 08:18:42 AM
Were trees smaller 30 years ago? i mean, i can't speak for the arboreal state of KS before my birth, but i think they had trees back then too.
Um yes a tree is much larger today than it was 30 years ago. I can't believe this is even being questioned?
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 27, 2016, 08:30:24 AM
turkeys were hunted/habit altered to near extinction in ks. they were reintroduced in the 50s and have done really well. the increase in woodland habitat that emo talks about definitely helped, but a lot of that woodland habitat had already succeeded by 30 years ago, the turkeys just hadn't completed their occupation of it yet.
sys, study after study links loss (change) of habitat as the #1 reason bobwhite quail numbers have declined so much since the 60's. It just so happens this change (usually) also benefits turkeys. I can tell you without a doubt the areas I ran around in as a little boy are much different today. I recall seeing two turkeys in my life before 1997, and now if you drive this road in the winter time you might see 100 birds. I'll see if I can dig up some old satellite imagery.
(On another anecdotal note, about 7 years ago I went to a field trial for hunting dogs and the old timers were lamenting how they now have to release quail to run birds on, that just 10 years prior they were running exclusively on wild birds. They noted how the hardwoods had matured and there was no edge cover for the quail anymore.)
Anyway, one larger point I wanted to make, you'll hear a lot of bird hunters saying turkeys eat quail eggs or quail chicks, and they have wiped out the quail and such, and that just isn't true. It's the change in habitat, and not just smaller trees growing up to be big trees, but also farmers ripping out tree rows that once separated two fields to make one bigger easier to farm field.
On a related note, I am impressively unbelievably bad at hunting turkeys.
Post by: XocolateThundarr on October 27, 2016, 08:34:36 AM
turkeys were hunted/habit altered to near extinction in ks. they were reintroduced in the 50s and have done really well. the increase in woodland habitat that emo talks about definitely helped, but a lot of that woodland habitat had already succeeded by 30 years ago, the turkeys just hadn't completed their occupation of it yet.
sys, study after study links loss (change) of habitat as the #1 reason bobwhite quail numbers have declined so much since the 60's. It just so happens this change (usually) also benefits turkeys. I can tell you without a doubt the areas I ran around in as a little boy are much different today. I recall seeing two turkeys in my life before 1997, and now if you drive this road in the winter time you might see 100 birds. I'll see if I can dig up some old satellite imagery.
(On another anecdotal note, about 7 years ago I went to a field trial for hunting dogs and the old timers were lamenting how they now have to release quail to run birds on, that just 10 years prior they were running exclusively on wild birds. They noted how the hardwoods had matured and there was no edge cover for the quail anymore.)
Anyway, one larger point I wanted to make, you'll hear a lot of bird hunters saying turkeys eat quail eggs or quail chicks, and they have wiped out the quail and such, and that just isn't true. It's the change in habitat, and not just smaller trees growing up to be big trees, but also farmers ripping out tree rows that once separated two fields to make one bigger easier to farm field.
On a related note, I am impressively unbelievably bad at hunting turkeys.
That is why whenever I am cutting firewoood I always place the limbs I'm not going to burn into piles along the tree row. They give those tasty little fellers a place to hide.
Post by: CNS on October 27, 2016, 08:38:57 AM
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Post by: Emo EMAW on October 27, 2016, 08:47:00 AM
I have had a MO guy tell me that they are blaming brome for being too thick vs natural grass.
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In MO for sure brome and fescue. Eastern KS too.
Post by: HerrSonntag on October 27, 2016, 08:56:35 AM
But wouldn't there have been trees from 60 years ago back then that aren't around any longer? What I'm saying is that I've never read anywhere that Kansas is materially more forested today than 30 years ago. If it is, that's news to meWere trees smaller 30 years ago? i mean, i can't speak for the arboreal state of KS before my birth, but i think they had trees back then too.
Um yes a tree is much larger today than it was 30 years ago. I can't believe this is even being questioned?
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 27, 2016, 09:12:11 AM
But wouldn't there have been trees from 60 years ago back then that aren't around any longer? What I'm saying is that I've never read anywhere that Kansas is materially more forested today than 30 years ago. If it is, that's news to meWere trees smaller 30 years ago? i mean, i can't speak for the arboreal state of KS before my birth, but i think they had trees back then too.
Um yes a tree is much larger today than it was 30 years ago. I can't believe this is even being questioned?
I think trees live pretty long.
I'm not saying it's an increase in acreage of wooded area, it's the maturation of the wooded areas. A tree has to be so big for turkeys to roost in it. Some areas used to not have trees big enough, and now they do. I also don't doubt some of what sys said is true, but generally speaking upland birds can be prolific breeders. Like I think they can breed faster than the habitat can change. Huns for example were expanding their range 20+ miles per year from Canada into the US after they were introduced. I would bet turkeys put into a vacuum would move even faster.
Post by: CNS on October 27, 2016, 12:02:34 PM
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Arby's is taking its "We have the meats" slogan seriously. The fast-food chain will add venison — aka deer meat — to its list of ingredients this month.
Post by: kslim on October 27, 2016, 12:13:51 PM
This is what kansas lawmakers think is important? This amendment makes no sense at all, vote no:Wha:
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 27, 2016, 12:34:55 PM
http://www.kshb.com/news/national/arbys-testing-deer-meat-sandwiches-through-november?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=58116db204d30112e7a035b0&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook (http://www.kshb.com/news/national/arbys-testing-deer-meat-sandwiches-through-november?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=58116db204d30112e7a035b0&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook)QuoteArby's is taking its "We have the meats" slogan seriously. The fast-food chain will add venison — aka deer meat — to its list of ingredients this month.
Not in Kansas. :frown:
Post by: SdK on October 27, 2016, 12:40:33 PM
Post by: SdK on October 27, 2016, 12:50:57 PM
There's just something wrong to me to have some humans as a collective living off the system and not having to contribute to survive and having another segment out there blasting animals away. It's a weird connection i have between these two and I'm not articulating it well.
Tl;dr: you didn't miss anything.
Post by: SdK on October 27, 2016, 12:52:40 PM
Post by: _33 on October 27, 2016, 01:02:59 PM
I view all life as beautiful. Death is a part of that. I equate killing animals to control their population as killing humans to lessen our population. I'd like to have both or neither.
I find your anti-hunting, pro-euthanasia stance fascinating.
Post by: SdK on October 27, 2016, 01:57:46 PM
Post by: CNS on October 27, 2016, 02:20:56 PM
The creation of pretty much any technology after the horse drawn plow required time not spent trying to wrestle life from nature.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 27, 2016, 02:32:16 PM
If we were still survival of the fittest'ing, we wouldn't have most cool ass things we have now.
The creation of pretty much any technology after the horse drawn plow required time not spent trying to wrestle life from nature.
Yeah, human evolution stopped a long time ago, and we've never been better off.
Post by: SdK on October 27, 2016, 02:32:37 PM
Post by: CNS on October 27, 2016, 02:34:27 PM
You are right. Everything now is simpler yet more confused. I love&hate it.
Well, you would be a grandpa by now and probably only a few years away from death without it, so I bet if you counted correctly, you would kinda hate very little of it, and the portion you do hate could be regained by simply going hunting and fishing or maybe taking a hike. :dunno:
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 27, 2016, 02:44:16 PM
Post by: CNS on October 27, 2016, 02:46:51 PM
Post by: SdK on October 27, 2016, 03:16:29 PM
Yeah. I'd much rather be alive now as opposed to at an earlier time due to life expectancy alone. I do take a lot for granted. You are right. My happy place when I meditate has always been a cabin in the mountains with the woman I love. I'll be grateful and try to bitch less until I'm able to get there. Thanks, CNS.You are right. Everything now is simpler yet more confused. I love&hate it.
Well, you would be a grandpa by now and probably only a few years away from death without it, so I bet if you counted correctly, you would kinda hate very little of it, and the portion you do hate could be regained by simply going hunting and fishing or maybe taking a hike. :dunno:
Post by: SdK on October 27, 2016, 03:16:47 PM
what in the eff is being discussed hereProcessing.
Post by: CNS on October 27, 2016, 03:17:50 PM
Yeah. I'd much rather be alive now as opposed to at an earlier time due to life expectancy alone. I do take a lot for granted. You are right. My happy place when I meditate has always been a cabin in the mountains with the woman I love. I'll be grateful and try to bitch less until I'm able to get there. Thanks, CNS.You are right. Everything now is simpler yet more confused. I love&hate it.
Well, you would be a grandpa by now and probably only a few years away from death without it, so I bet if you counted correctly, you would kinda hate very little of it, and the portion you do hate could be regained by simply going hunting and fishing or maybe taking a hike. :dunno:
Oh, don't stop bitching. I am pretty sure Ford invented the car so that we had more time to complain. For reals. Complaint is the driver of innovation these days.
Post by: schreds21 on October 28, 2016, 10:07:52 PM
(no offense, EMO. I'll have my chance to not kill an elk in a couple of weeks)
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Post by: Emo EMAW on October 31, 2016, 03:25:08 PM
But then a few minutes later further up the draw a cow and calf appeared. I ranged them, 350 ish, and steadied my 270 Winchester on my tripod. I knew the drop for 300 yards is 7 inches, so I held about a foot high and squeezed off a round. She barely reacted, had I missed? I quickly fired another, still no effect. WtF! I had dropped my rifle earlier in the day so I was concerned my scope was off. I decided to watch her body language for a moment and calm myself down. She seemed off, just standing there staring at nothing. I guessed she was hit but didn't see any blood. I fired again, this time she took a few steps forward dragging her rear leg so I knew she was hit. At this point I was committed to keep shooting until she dropped or I was out of ammo. I racked one more round, tried to really calm myself and held just high of the front shoulder. Breathe in breathe out relax squeeeeze BAM. This time I could tell I hit her good. She went down and thankfully was stopped from rolling down the hill by a small tree.
There was another guy hunting the same ridge as me, he had a bull tag and watched the whole thing. He told me I hit her good the first time, missed wide the second, hit her leg the third, and hit the vitals again shot 4. She was damn tough, much respect.
We walked to her and snapped a could pics and tried to move her, no dice. So I was committed to taking her apart right there. He split and I got to work.
I took off two two quarters and still couldn't roll her, so went to get the truck. I was able to string together a tow strap a check cord and two leashes to reach her. Used the truck to pull her just a bit so I could roll over.
Cut more and more. It was slow going. About midnight I wacked my knuckled with my knife and cut down to the bone. I could like see in there and see my ligament. Gross. Finally got her all loaded and was on my way at 139AM.
Due to some unusual circumstances and I wasn't feeling great so I hadn't eaten anything all day and I was beat. Tried to sleep in the truck for a couple hours and got to my house at 6AM. Still had work to do taking care of the meat. By the time she was in coolers and I was done it was about 10 AM this morning.
Post by: mhkpasa on October 31, 2016, 05:04:45 PM
Also: what's the etiquette of taking a cow with calf in tow? LEHIQ
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Post by: Emo EMAW on October 31, 2016, 08:36:03 PM
:surprised: Sounds like a rough night.
Also: what's the etiquette of taking a cow with calf in tow? LEHIQ
I was wondering that too. I wouldn't have done that in a Rocky Mountain ecosystem with much tougher winters. Even with deer I wouldn't, but deer are much more abundant and I didn't think I was going to get another chance. I really need the meat to meet some of my dietary goals for the next year. Anyway I'll research the odds of the calf surviving and report back.
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 31, 2016, 08:37:07 PM
How's the finger bud?
Little sore, otherwise fine. Lucky the bone was there to stop the blade from doing serious damage.
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 31, 2016, 08:38:38 PM
did you eat the heart yet?
I did the gutless method so all that stuff stayed inside. I think if it were colder and I help I would have been more ambitious and retrieved heart and liver and tongue.
Post by: Tobias on October 31, 2016, 08:40:23 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on October 31, 2016, 08:43:54 PM
I really need the meat to meet some of my dietary goals for the next year.
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Post by: Emo EMAW on October 31, 2016, 09:05:31 PM
how are the underpants (yeti?)
One reason I took so long with her was I sick again. There was an iffy moment or two (both ends).
Post by: bucket on October 31, 2016, 09:07:17 PM
:surprised: Sounds like a rough night.
Also: what's the etiquette of taking a cow with calf in tow? LEHIQ
I was wondering that too. I wouldn't have done that in a Rocky Mountain ecosystem with much tougher winters. Even with deer I wouldn't, but deer are much more abundant and I didn't think I was going to get another chance. I really need the meat to meet some of my dietary goals for the next year. Anyway I'll research the odds of the calf surviving and report back.
Best of luck to you, Bambi :cry:
Post by: sys on October 31, 2016, 09:09:28 PM
Post by: kim carnes on October 31, 2016, 10:34:55 PM
Mods please lock this disgusting/embarrassing thread.
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 01, 2016, 08:49:30 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 01, 2016, 08:52:36 AM
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Post by: Emo EMAW on November 04, 2016, 08:51:39 AM
Post by: mhkpasa on November 04, 2016, 11:28:10 AM
It was the Hornady 140 grain boat tail spire point. It shot the best out of my rifle so that's what I went with. It killed my buck last year pretty clean, he only went 50 yards. Killed a whitetail doe this October, big pass through, devastating, only went 100 yards or so. I think elk are damn tough animals no doubt. I'm sure there are better bullets out there but I'm trying to sell this rifle so I don't really want to shoot it much more.
Obviously rifles don't have odometers, so what's the thought here? Low ballistics IQ. Can you tell from inspecting the rifling? Heat stress? No idea.
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 04, 2016, 12:45:14 PM
It was the Hornady 140 grain boat tail spire point. It shot the best out of my rifle so that's what I went with. It killed my buck last year pretty clean, he only went 50 yards. Killed a whitetail doe this October, big pass through, devastating, only went 100 yards or so. I think elk are damn tough animals no doubt. I'm sure there are better bullets out there but I'm trying to sell this rifle so I don't really want to shoot it much more.
Obviously rifles don't have odometers, so what's the thought here? Low ballistics IQ. Can you tell from inspecting the rifling? Heat stress? No idea.
There's a psychological odometer for rifles. If I tell you the rifle has only fired 20 bullets, and I cleaned it after each firing, you'd think it was in near pristine condition and that the barrel was on it's way to being broken in properly. If I told you it had been fired 200 times and I hadn't cleaned it once you would think the barrel must be mumped. Some people would buy rifle A in this scenario, even if rifle B was shooting tighter groups. It's weird, people are weird about rifles.
Anyway, if I'm going to sell it I have nothing to gain by firing it more. It's costly, takes time, reduces value, and I can't benefit from anything I learn shooting it.
Post by: HerrSonntag on November 04, 2016, 11:29:29 PM
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Post by: HerrSonntag on November 09, 2016, 04:30:31 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on November 09, 2016, 05:23:50 PM
Constitutional amendment on hunting passed last night, guys! Aren't elections great?
Great. You can have the constitutional right to hunt but my friends can't have the constitutional right to be treated like human beings.
Post by: star seed 7 on November 09, 2016, 05:31:50 PM
Post by: HerrSonntag on November 09, 2016, 05:35:52 PM
I'm sorry to hear about your friends Mrs Gooch, let me know if there's way I can help.Constitutional amendment on hunting passed last night, guys! Aren't elections great?
Great. You can have the constitutional right to hunt but my friends can't have the constitutional right to be treated like human beings.
Post by: Tobias on November 09, 2016, 05:40:36 PM
Maybe they can be hunted?
step 1: pray it away
step 2: prey it away
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 10, 2016, 10:10:29 AM
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Post by: star seed 7 on November 10, 2016, 11:54:45 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 10, 2016, 01:23:31 PM
Did you keep any shank or turn it all into burger?
All the front quarters went to burger. I still have deer shank I never got around to doing.
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 10, 2016, 01:38:48 PM
How bad does your garage stink rn? (assuming processing happens in the garage)
I process in my kitchen. It's basically just taking big hunks of meat and turning it into a smaller more manageable hunk of meat, so like no different than trimming a steak or something before grilling. No smell. The first time I plopped a whole quarter onto the countertop my wife was all :sdeek:/ :curse: but now she doesn't care. Last night my son kept wanting to watch me cut and grind the "elk chicken" (he thinks all meat is chicken or something).
Post by: star seed 7 on November 10, 2016, 01:42:23 PM
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Post by: BW on November 10, 2016, 09:33:16 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 15, 2016, 09:41:18 AM
I did some scouting for my deer tag and filmed this.
[youtube]https://youtu.be/b1Lhza-ioSk[/youtube]
Post by: mhkpasa on November 15, 2016, 12:08:04 PM
Just had a friend the other morning have a dumb and/or blind doe walk up and let him touch her.
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Post by: BW on November 15, 2016, 02:35:48 PM
How did you bird hunters do this weekend? My buddy with two dogs moved 8 coveys of quail before noon on Sunday. That's pretty good!We did alright, certainly better than the last 5 years. Were out in SWKS. Bird numbers definitely higher, but lots and lots of cover due to all the rain this summer. They were scattered.
I did some scouting for my deer tag and filmed this.
[youtube]https://youtu.be/b1Lhza-ioSk[/youtube]
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Post by: Emo EMAW on November 15, 2016, 02:37:06 PM
We were around Hugoton.
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Post by: star seed 7 on November 16, 2016, 09:25:55 AM
Made some elk chili last night. Honestly I couldn't tell any difference from beef.
Well, if there is no difference in taste, let me be the first to let you know you can buy beef at any local supermarket and "they" have even already done all the annoying parts and it's just ready to use. Pretty great time to be alive really
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Post by: Emo EMAW on November 16, 2016, 10:23:56 AM
Made some elk chili last night. Honestly I couldn't tell any difference from beef.
Well, if there is no difference in taste, let me be the first to let you know you can buy beef at any local supermarket and "they" have even already done all the annoying parts and it's just ready to use. Pretty great time to be alive really
The desire for the meat is much more than any difference in taste. I figured you'd be insightful enough to know that. Allow me to explain.
I really enjoy being able to actually provide for my own nourishment and for that of my family. I don't see it as a challenge to get up and go to work every day and get paid this salary with which I can part with in trade for things like food which I convey to my family. But, the elk is a true challenge. It feels like I have really worked and sacrificed for it. I like to give myself into these endeavors, suffer and toil, be rewarded, and then share with friends and provide for my family. Emotionally it is very rewarding to me. I am actually a very selfless person. Maybe I find it difficult to show others how much I care about them? I hope that they know that this thing I worked very hard for, I give to them out of my love for them and my devotion to them. That's more than I can ever do by going to a grocery store and swiping my Chase Sapphire Preferred.
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 16, 2016, 10:24:54 AM
Hunted Wakeeney - Hill City area Sunday/Monday/Tuesday. I would only call it fair. Very warm and dry made hunting tough.
Did you bump many deer up that way?
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 16, 2016, 10:31:25 AM
i'd def save the more expensive elk meat for something where it can shine
I'm open to suggestion. I have like 50 pounds of burger that I'm going to need to figure out what to do with. Could get boring eating chilli/spaghetti/burgers every week. Oooo maybe like a meatloaf? Elk pâté?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 16, 2016, 10:31:54 AM
We caught 15 trout 3 weeks ago and the look on Mrs. Wacky's families faces when I gave them a few fish was pure joy. Feels good. Also, there's an art to it. No stink bait at these places.Made some elk chili last night. Honestly I couldn't tell any difference from beef.
Well, if there is no difference in taste, let me be the first to let you know you can buy beef at any local supermarket and "they" have even already done all the annoying parts and it's just ready to use. Pretty great time to be alive really
The desire for the meat is much more than any difference in taste. I figured you'd be insightful enough to know that. Allow me to explain.
I really enjoy being able to actually provide for my own nourishment and for that of my family. I don't see it as a challenge to get up and go to work every day and get paid this salary with which I can part with in trade for things like food which I convey to my family. But, the elk is a true challenge. It feels like I have really worked and sacrificed for it. I like to give myself into these endeavors, suffer and toil, be rewarded, and then share with friends and provide for my family. Emotionally it is very rewarding to me. I am actually a very selfless person. Maybe I find it difficult to show others how much I care about them? I hope that they know that this thing I worked very hard for, I give to them out of my love for them and my devotion to them. That's more than I can ever do by going to a grocery store and swiping my Chase Sapphire Preferred.
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 16, 2016, 10:33:33 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on November 16, 2016, 10:46:03 AM
Made some elk chili last night. Honestly I couldn't tell any difference from beef.
Well, if there is no difference in taste, let me be the first to let you know you can buy beef at any local supermarket and "they" have even already done all the annoying parts and it's just ready to use. Pretty great time to be alive really
The desire for the meat is much more than any difference in taste. I figured you'd be insightful enough to know that. Allow me to explain.
I really enjoy being able to actually provide for my own nourishment and for that of my family. I don't see it as a challenge to get up and go to work every day and get paid this salary with which I can part with in trade for things like food which I convey to my family. But, the elk is a true challenge. It feels like I have really worked and sacrificed for it. I like to give myself into these endeavors, suffer and toil, be rewarded, and then share with friends and provide for my family. Emotionally it is very rewarding to me. I am actually a very selfless person. Maybe I find it difficult to show others how much I care about them? I hope that they know that this thing I worked very hard for, I give to them out of my love for them and my devotion to them. That's more than I can ever do by going to a grocery store and swiping my Chase Sapphire Preferred.
Usually you take a little razzing better than this. Enjoy your chili bud, and congrats on your conquest :cheers:
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 16, 2016, 10:47:15 AM
Made some elk chili last night. Honestly I couldn't tell any difference from beef.
Well, if there is no difference in taste, let me be the first to let you know you can buy beef at any local supermarket and "they" have even already done all the annoying parts and it's just ready to use. Pretty great time to be alive really
The desire for the meat is much more than any difference in taste. I figured you'd be insightful enough to know that. Allow me to explain.
I really enjoy being able to actually provide for my own nourishment and for that of my family. I don't see it as a challenge to get up and go to work every day and get paid this salary with which I can part with in trade for things like food which I convey to my family. But, the elk is a true challenge. It feels like I have really worked and sacrificed for it. I like to give myself into these endeavors, suffer and toil, be rewarded, and then share with friends and provide for my family. Emotionally it is very rewarding to me. I am actually a very selfless person. Maybe I find it difficult to show others how much I care about them? I hope that they know that this thing I worked very hard for, I give to them out of my love for them and my devotion to them. That's more than I can ever do by going to a grocery store and swiping my Chase Sapphire Preferred.
Usually you take a little razzing better than this. Enjoy your chili bud, and congrats on your conquest :cheers:
Well now I need your help patching this here drywall.
Post by: star seed 7 on November 16, 2016, 10:48:56 AM
Post by: Tobias on November 16, 2016, 10:50:50 AM
I'm open to suggestion. I have like 50 pounds of burger that I'm going to need to figure out what to do with. Could get boring eating chilli/spaghetti/burgers every week. Oooo maybe like a meatloaf? Elk pâté?
my dad is an emo and i usually just tell him to cook me burgers or meat loaf out of whatever creatures he kills (honestly, burgers probably my fave)
Post by: Tobias on November 16, 2016, 10:51:44 AM
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Post by: star seed 7 on November 16, 2016, 10:56:31 AM
There has been a whole duck or goose or something in the hobby farm freezer for like 3 years tho
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 16, 2016, 10:58:09 AM
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Post by: sys on November 16, 2016, 11:01:06 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on November 16, 2016, 11:05:59 AM
has your dad considered just taking up geocaching or pokemon go instead?
I'm not even sure that he likes the killing part. I think he just likes being out in nature. I'm pretty confident 90% of his deer blind time is spent playing Nintendo ds
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 16, 2016, 11:12:16 AM
killing wild ducks is lots of fun, unfortunately they taste like ass.
Step 1) breast out, pair a chunk with jallapeno pepper slice, wrap in bacon
Step 2) get drunk as eff and grill
Step 3) pig out
The first part of step 2 really helps with the taste.
Post by: SEK_EMAW on November 16, 2016, 11:30:14 AM
Hunted Wakeeney - Hill City area Sunday/Monday/Tuesday. I would only call it fair. Very warm and dry made hunting tough.
Did you bump many deer up that way?
Did not see a bunch. Did see a really nice muley south of Wakeeney. He was with a doe and another smaller buck. Had to stop on the highway as he walked across in front of us and DNGAF.
Post by: meow meow on November 16, 2016, 04:10:57 PM
killing wild ducks is lots of fun, unfortunately they taste like ass.
Step 1) breast out, pair a chunk with jallapeno pepper slice, wrap in bacon
Step 2) get drunk as eff and grill
Step 3) pig out
The first part of step 2 really helps with the taste.
works great with dove also
Post by: Tobias on November 16, 2016, 04:42:46 PM
Post by: schreds21 on November 16, 2016, 07:21:36 PM
We caught 15 trout 3 weeks ago and the look on Mrs. Wacky's families faces when I gave them a few fish was pure joy. Feels good. Also, there's an art to it. No stink bait at these places.Made some elk chili last night. Honestly I couldn't tell any difference from beef.
Well, if there is no difference in taste, let me be the first to let you know you can buy beef at any local supermarket and "they" have even already done all the annoying parts and it's just ready to use. Pretty great time to be alive really
The desire for the meat is much more than any difference in taste. I figured you'd be insightful enough to know that. Allow me to explain.
I really enjoy being able to actually provide for my own nourishment and for that of my family. I don't see it as a challenge to get up and go to work every day and get paid this salary with which I can part with in trade for things like food which I convey to my family. But, the elk is a true challenge. It feels like I have really worked and sacrificed for it. I like to give myself into these endeavors, suffer and toil, be rewarded, and then share with friends and provide for my family. Emotionally it is very rewarding to me. I am actually a very selfless person. Maybe I find it difficult to show others how much I care about them? I hope that they know that this thing I worked very hard for, I give to them out of my love for them and my devotion to them. That's more than I can ever do by going to a grocery store and swiping my Chase Sapphire Preferred.
I'm still waiting on pics, Wacky! :impatient: :shakesfist:
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Post by: schreds21 on November 16, 2016, 09:03:57 PM
Sorry shreds. I don't know how to PAK head myself in these pics. Should have thought of that beforehand. :curse:If I can figure it out, anyone can (no PAK head, just blocked out). Besides, everybody knows what you look like anyway.
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Post by: HerrSonntag on November 17, 2016, 08:58:49 AM
I was just jk'ing about the queso fresco, obviouslyI will fight you
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 17, 2016, 09:00:07 AM
Good news wacky in 90 days you can be svelte as a puma.:Woot: I've already lost 7 lbs since that pic. :) We've been traveling/vacationing a lot since the wedding. I'm not even mad at myself.
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Post by: Kat Kid on November 17, 2016, 11:02:34 PM
Made some elk chili last night. Honestly I couldn't tell any difference from beef.
Well, if there is no difference in taste, let me be the first to let you know you can buy beef at any local supermarket and "they" have even already done all the annoying parts and it's just ready to use. Pretty great time to be alive really
The desire for the meat is much more than any difference in taste. I figured you'd be insightful enough to know that. Allow me to explain.
I really enjoy being able to actually provide for my own nourishment and for that of my family. I don't see it as a challenge to get up and go to work every day and get paid this salary with which I can part with in trade for things like food which I convey to my family. But, the elk is a true challenge. It feels like I have really worked and sacrificed for it. I like to give myself into these endeavors, suffer and toil, be rewarded, and then share with friends and provide for my family. Emotionally it is very rewarding to me. I am actually a very selfless person. Maybe I find it difficult to show others how much I care about them? I hope that they know that this thing I worked very hard for, I give to them out of my love for them and my devotion to them. That's more than I can ever do by going to a grocery store and swiping my Chase Sapphire Preferred.
Maybe your wife feels differently, but this seems like some real Gift of the Magi crap. I think I could just as seriously type out a paragraph like that about K-State sports and my sons, but my wife would not accept any of it as actually helpful.
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Nice catch. Where are you fishing, if you don't mind me asking.
Keeping with the spirit of the thread, going to do some killing with slack jr over thanksgiving. Quail, rabbit
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Nice catch. Where are you fishing, if you don't mind me asking.
Keeping with the spirit of the thread, going to do some killing with slack jr over thanksgiving. Quail, rabbit
[/quote]Roaring river near cassville. Missouri. Dad and I do it every year in the fall. It's always a blast. Enjoy your time with Jr. :D
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 18, 2016, 10:03:09 AM
Made some elk chili last night. Honestly I couldn't tell any difference from beef.
Well, if there is no difference in taste, let me be the first to let you know you can buy beef at any local supermarket and "they" have even already done all the annoying parts and it's just ready to use. Pretty great time to be alive really
The desire for the meat is much more than any difference in taste. I figured you'd be insightful enough to know that. Allow me to explain.
I really enjoy being able to actually provide for my own nourishment and for that of my family. I don't see it as a challenge to get up and go to work every day and get paid this salary with which I can part with in trade for things like food which I convey to my family. But, the elk is a true challenge. It feels like I have really worked and sacrificed for it. I like to give myself into these endeavors, suffer and toil, be rewarded, and then share with friends and provide for my family. Emotionally it is very rewarding to me. I am actually a very selfless person. Maybe I find it difficult to show others how much I care about them? I hope that they know that this thing I worked very hard for, I give to them out of my love for them and my devotion to them. That's more than I can ever do by going to a grocery store and swiping my Chase Sapphire Preferred.
Maybe your wife feels differently, but this seems like some real Gift of the Magi crap. I think I could just as seriously type out a paragraph like that about K-State sports and my sons, but my wife would not accept any of it as actually helpful.
How is it Gift of the Magi? The gift is completely useful, and superior to anything commercially available. It came at a different cost, but the value is immeasurable since you can't exactly buy it.
The more I think about it it's a completely irrelevant comparison.
Post by: star seed 7 on November 18, 2016, 10:19:35 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 18, 2016, 10:31:42 AM
Post by: wetwillie on November 18, 2016, 10:35:42 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on November 18, 2016, 10:38:26 AM
Post by: bubbles4ksu on November 18, 2016, 10:44:54 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 18, 2016, 11:12:00 AM
Post by: wELLsculptedbrows on November 18, 2016, 11:31:47 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on November 18, 2016, 11:37:32 AM
Did you guys not read my earlier post? Perhaps you didn't understand or relate to it?
The challenge and triumph part is all good and understandable. It gets a little murky when you try to say you spent thousands of dollars and days away from your family completing this challenge for them.
Post by: sys on November 18, 2016, 11:38:46 AM
Post by: wetwillie on November 18, 2016, 11:47:11 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 18, 2016, 12:08:51 PM
Did you guys not read my earlier post? Perhaps you didn't understand or relate to it?
The challenge and triumph part is all good and understandable. It gets a little murky when you try to say you spent thousands of dollars and days away from your family completing this challenge for them.
The money is immaterial. There is plenty of it and it would be spent anyway.
As far as the time investment, it is necessary to have struggled. It's inherent. There is no plausible alternative.
Post by: CNS on November 18, 2016, 12:16:11 PM
Emo, buy a ranch, buy some elk, put some gps's on them, track them at a later date w/ your phone, blast one, be home by lunch with new elk!
I mean, a bow and rifle are both technology, why stop there?
I mean, if you are leasing land, doing scouting trips, etc on top of the actual hunting trips, the above would save you money in the long term and provide you with 100% success. Win/Win.
Post by: star seed 7 on November 18, 2016, 12:29:38 PM
Did you guys not read my earlier post? Perhaps you didn't understand or relate to it?
The challenge and triumph part is all good and understandable. It gets a little murky when you try to say you spent thousands of dollars and days away from your family completing this challenge for them.
The money is immaterial. There is plenty of it and it would be spent anyway.
As far as the time investment, it is necessary to have struggled. It's inherent. There is no plausible alternative.
Yeah, and I don't mean to indicate that you should have spent your money or time in a different manner or you did anything wrong. I don't believe your family was adversely effected in anyway.
You completed a personal goal, saying that it was out of selflessness for your family is what people (me) are struggling to understand clearly.
Post by: sys on November 18, 2016, 12:42:19 PM
As far as the time investment, it is necessary to have struggled. It's inherent. There is no plausible alternative.
when i shot an elk, here is how i did it:
1. drive to mountains.
2. walk around with my dog until we randomly intercepted some elk.
3. shoot the nearest one.
carrying it out was hard though.
that's purely an aside, tho. the wtf part of your elk stories is where you act like you're doing it for your family. the rest is all good.
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 18, 2016, 01:10:25 PM
Post by: bubbles4ksu on November 18, 2016, 01:16:05 PM
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 18, 2016, 01:26:07 PM
Post by: sys on November 18, 2016, 02:50:56 PM
I might actually enjoy the hunt in and of itself ya know.
yeah, that part makes sense.
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 18, 2016, 03:05:27 PM
I might actually enjoy the hunt in and of itself ya know.
yeah, that part makes sense.
You don't think it makes sense that it makes me feel good to provide for my family in this way?
Post by: CNS on November 18, 2016, 03:09:22 PM
Post by: sys on November 18, 2016, 03:10:59 PM
Post by: bubbles4ksu on November 18, 2016, 03:18:40 PM
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Post by: Emo EMAW on November 18, 2016, 03:26:32 PM
Hiking is just as enjoyable as hunting, imo. In fact, it is more so. You get what you go for every time you go.
I've thought a lot about this and I can assert that you are wrong. When you're hiking you are only considering your own needs. When you are hunting you are not only considering your own needs, but are also considering the needs of your quarry. Sometimes you sacrifice your own needs in the hunt. You are more aware of your surroundings, where you walk, how loudly you talk, the wind, the angle of the sun, the moon phase, everything. You actually hear bird calls and squirrels bark and such because they can affect you, whereas a hiker might ignore them or not even notice them. Also, you're up and active early and late (and sometimes at night), which is when animals are most active. Hikers don't even get out of bed until the sun is up. FWIW, these aren't uniquely my thoughts, I took a hippie friend on my first hunt to Colorado and he noticed these things. I met a couple who spent an entire week in a wilderness area loaded with elk and they never saw a single one, couldn't even comment if they noticed any tracks or droppings. They were oblivious hikers.
Post by: star seed 7 on November 18, 2016, 03:28:45 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 18, 2016, 03:30:01 PM
i've giving you credit for not being stupid enough to really think your infant son gives a crap whether you shoot an elk or not.
I never said he cared one way or the other. He likes the meat but he can't possibly appreciate it. My wife even can't possibly fully appreciate it because she does not fully understand what went into it, but she does to the extent that she wants me to kill something every year.
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 18, 2016, 03:33:15 PM
i believe your motive is pure, emo. and i think it's great. i just think you suck at hunting compared to pete's relatives.
Post the picture bubba. PM if necessary. I gotta get my eyes on this beast.
Post by: sys on November 18, 2016, 03:40:43 PM
Post by: wELLsculptedbrows on November 18, 2016, 04:05:46 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 18, 2016, 04:07:21 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 18, 2016, 04:10:33 PM
But, sometimes my wife asks if there's anything in season for me to go kill. :buh-bye:
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 18, 2016, 04:25:22 PM
Post by: wELLsculptedbrows on November 19, 2016, 10:13:26 AM
It's the talker/doer thing again.
But, sometimes my wife asks if there's anything in season for me to go kill. :buh-bye:
Hey numbskull, you get that no one is taking issue with your "doing," it's the bullshit you're "talking" that we're busting you on, right?
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 19, 2016, 10:19:36 AM
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 19, 2016, 12:49:03 PM
Post by: SdK on November 19, 2016, 01:06:26 PM
Side note: My happy place would be a cabin in rhe mountains where I had limited power and did have to hunt to supplement my dietary needs. I'm not opposed to hunting, I just can't see leaving civilization for a week to go kill something and then coming back. I bash it a lot, but I'm genuinely curious about what about the kill shot makes the whole experience more enjoyable.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 19, 2016, 02:45:50 PM
Post by: sys on November 19, 2016, 02:48:59 PM
Everything you do sounds like a lot of fun and I'd join you like crazy. I just wouldn't want there to be a kill. Can someone explain how the kill heightens the experience?
emo already explained it pretty well a few posts back. when hunting, you feel yourself to be a participant in nature, rather than an observer. it's a different experience.
Post by: SdK on November 19, 2016, 03:51:03 PM
Fair enough. I just didn't want to read through all the bullshit. Thank you.Everything you do sounds like a lot of fun and I'd join you like crazy. I just wouldn't want there to be a kill. Can someone explain how the kill heightens the experience?
emo already explained it pretty well a few posts back. when hunting, you feel yourself to be a participant in nature, rather than an observer. it's a different experience.
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 19, 2016, 03:53:25 PM
It's the talker/doer thing again.
But, sometimes my wife asks if there's anything in season for me to go kill. :buh-bye:
Hey numbskull, you get that no one is taking issue with your "doing," it's the bullshit you're "talking" that we're busting you on, right?
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People are reading in something that isn't there or saying I said something I haven't. I'm willing to assume you guys aren't stupid (most of you at least) so I can only assume jealousy or something else I don't understand.
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Post by: tdaver on November 20, 2016, 10:31:23 PM
Hiking is just as enjoyable as hunting, imo. In fact, it is more so. You get what you go for every time you go.
I've thought a lot about this and I can assert that you are wrong. When you're hiking you are only considering your own needs. When you are hunting you are not only considering your own needs, but are also considering the needs of your quarry. Sometimes you sacrifice your own needs in the hunt. You are more aware of your surroundings, where you walk, how loudly you talk, the wind, the angle of the sun, the moon phase, everything. You actually hear bird calls and squirrels bark and such because they can affect you, whereas a hiker might ignore them or not even notice them. Also, you're up and active early and late (and sometimes at night), which is when animals are most active. Hikers don't even get out of bed until the sun is up. FWIW, these aren't uniquely my thoughts, I took a hippie friend on my first hunt to Colorado and he noticed these things. I met a couple who spent an entire week in a wilderness area loaded with elk and they never saw a single one, couldn't even comment if they noticed any tracks or droppings. They were oblivious hikers.
Maybe casual hikers, but more serious hikers and especially peakbaggers almost always start well before sunrise. And I can guarantee you when it's dark and I'm on the trail alone, I'm very aware of my surroundings. I will admit that on the way down I'm typically going for speed and missing things, but by then there are other people around ruining it anyway.
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 21, 2016, 10:15:09 AM
Hiking is just as enjoyable as hunting, imo. In fact, it is more so. You get what you go for every time you go.
I've thought a lot about this and I can assert that you are wrong. When you're hiking you are only considering your own needs. When you are hunting you are not only considering your own needs, but are also considering the needs of your quarry. Sometimes you sacrifice your own needs in the hunt. You are more aware of your surroundings, where you walk, how loudly you talk, the wind, the angle of the sun, the moon phase, everything. You actually hear bird calls and squirrels bark and such because they can affect you, whereas a hiker might ignore them or not even notice them. Also, you're up and active early and late (and sometimes at night), which is when animals are most active. Hikers don't even get out of bed until the sun is up. FWIW, these aren't uniquely my thoughts, I took a hippie friend on my first hunt to Colorado and he noticed these things. I met a couple who spent an entire week in a wilderness area loaded with elk and they never saw a single one, couldn't even comment if they noticed any tracks or droppings. They were oblivious hikers.
Maybe casual hikers, but more serious hikers and especially peakbaggers almost always start well before sunrise. And I can guarantee you when it's dark and I'm on the trail alone, I'm very aware of my surroundings. I will admit that on the way down I'm typically going for speed and missing things, but by then there are other people around ruining it anyway.
That's a good point, hikers stick to trails and are almost always around other hikers. Hunters try to get at least a mile off trail and will trudge mile by mile through blowdown. We set up camp in places to enable glassing, like bald ridges or saddles, usually away from water and subject to high winds and lightning.
Post by: wELLsculptedbrows on November 21, 2016, 12:39:22 PM
It's the talker/doer thing again.
But, sometimes my wife asks if there's anything in season for me to go kill. :buh-bye:
Hey numbskull, you get that no one is taking issue with your "doing," it's the bullshit you're "talking" that we're busting you on, right?
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People are reading in something that isn't there or saying I said something I haven't. I'm willing to assume you guys aren't stupid (most of you at least) so I can only assume jealousy or something else I don't understand.
The quiet reflection you so obviously practiced in the wilderness has perfectly attuned you to the universe and the nature of man.
Post by: steve dave on November 21, 2016, 12:40:56 PM
secret part of post that I set a mod thing so emo can't read: wtf is the matter with this emo guy? seems like he's super into stuff that's a waste of time and sucks complete crap?
Post by: slackcat on November 23, 2016, 05:52:57 AM
Roaring river near cassville. Missouri. Dad and I do it every year in the fall. It's always a blast. Enjoy your time with Jr. :D[quote auhor=WackyCat08 link=topic=16382.msg1643955#msg1643955 date=1479394061]
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Nice catch. Where are you fishing, if you don't mind me asking.
Keeping with the spirit of the thread, going to do some killing with slack jr over thanksgiving. Quail, rabbit
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Thanks! :D
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 28, 2016, 08:33:43 AM
On Friday I scooted out of the in-laws at 2AM to head to further western KS to try to find a mature mule deer. I had found a nice deer two weeks ago on a hidden winter wheat field (can't see it from the road). I decided to sit this field to see if he showed back up. His does were there but he never showed. Got this pic of this young whitetail just as the sun was setting. Did 10 miles this day.
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Basically just a hike.
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 28, 2016, 08:37:49 AM
Post by: Tobias on November 28, 2016, 09:00:16 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 28, 2016, 09:13:43 AM
Oh I did see some coyote hunters and got the hell out of there pretty fast as they swept my position with their rifles as they were setting down.
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 29, 2016, 09:38:45 AM
I only saw one other guy, some crazy fool who drove all the way from Shawnee to run one brittany and he wasn't even carrying a gun. I told him where I stepped on a covey earlier and went on my way. I don't see many spot and stalk bowhunters, not even during the rut.
Oh I did see some coyote hunters and got the hell out of there pretty fast as they swept my position with their rifles as they were setting down.
Why didn't you just join the army if you wanted to go on long early morning hikes and talk in military lingo? You'd really be able to talk about selflessness then. Like selfless trump card up your sleeve
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 29, 2016, 08:38:38 PM
I only saw one other guy, some crazy fool who drove all the way from Shawnee to run one brittany and he wasn't even carrying a gun. I told him where I stepped on a covey earlier and went on my way. I don't see many spot and stalk bowhunters, not even during the rut.
Oh I did see some coyote hunters and got the hell out of there pretty fast as they swept my position with their rifles as they were setting down.
Why didn't you just join the army if you wanted to go on long early morning hikes and talk in military lingo? You'd really be able to talk about selflessness then. Like selfless trump card up your sleeve
I'm a lover not a fighter.
Post by: Tobias on December 01, 2016, 10:38:22 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on December 01, 2016, 10:42:13 AM
Post by: Tobias on December 01, 2016, 10:42:35 AM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 01, 2016, 10:45:43 AM
shot up a flare for emo
selfless
Post by: MakeItRain on December 01, 2016, 02:05:45 PM
I only saw one other guy, some crazy fool who drove all the way from Shawnee to run one brittany and he wasn't even carrying a gun. I told him where I stepped on a covey earlier and went on my way. I don't see many spot and stalk bowhunters, not even during the rut.
Oh I did see some coyote hunters and got the hell out of there pretty fast as they swept my position with their rifles as they were setting down.
Why didn't you just join the army if you wanted to go on long early morning hikes and talk in military lingo? You'd really be able to talk about selflessness then. Like selfless trump card up your sleeve
I'm a lover not a fighter.
Not hooking me up with some of that chili isn't very lover like, emo.
Post by: mhkpasa on December 06, 2016, 11:05:40 AM
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Post by: sys on December 06, 2016, 01:01:33 PM
I love to go out before dawn and take photographs and timelapses of the sunrise, stars, nature, etc. I suppose my motivation for these endeavors is mostly selfish as I enjoy the time alone, and although I do return with a bounty of pretty pictures that my wife and kids enjoy looking at, it does not provide any sustenance. (unless you count emotional and spiritual sustenance, which you probably don't)
after seeing how the young man was raised, i feel like i have a better understanding of why emo feels his child should be grateful to receive a pile of elk meat.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 06, 2016, 01:03:52 PM
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Post by: SdK on January 12, 2017, 06:21:59 PM
Just curious if those that are a fan of hunting, fishing, have a different view that on this matter.
Post by: sys on January 12, 2017, 06:54:25 PM
Post by: puniraptor on January 12, 2017, 06:59:10 PM
Post by: SdK on January 12, 2017, 07:02:03 PM
you felt bad about your fish murdering small fish so you bought your fish a big fish to murder and felt better?No. I didn't think he'd murder the larger fish. So I wanted a larger fish to live in the tank to make up for all the death
Faulty logic.
Post by: SdK on January 12, 2017, 07:03:32 PM
i don't understand the question.I'd abhor hunting and took issue with my sending other animals to their death. Is there a correlation? Are there pro hunters that also find it gross that I did that. Anti hunters that see no issue with it.
Post by: sys on January 12, 2017, 07:05:28 PM
Post by: SdK on January 12, 2017, 07:06:43 PM
i'm still confused. why were you feeding live fish to your oscar if you didn't want to?I liked it at first. Like I thought he needed it in his life. Then I had a change of heart. Nevermind. I just had a random thought and am not explaining it well.
Post by: sys on January 12, 2017, 07:10:40 PM
I thought he needed it in his life. Then I had a change of heart.
ok, i think i get it now. it's ok to feed him live fish or not feed him live fish, imo.
Post by: SdK on January 12, 2017, 07:37:26 PM
I think I was curious if there were people that differ in opinions on these two issues than i. Anti hunting anti sending animals to their death.I thought he needed it in his life. Then I had a change of heart.
ok, i think i get it now. it's ok to feed him live fish or not feed him live fish, imo.
Post by: sys on January 12, 2017, 07:46:37 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 13, 2017, 12:48:25 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on January 13, 2017, 02:00:54 PM
Post by: SdK on January 13, 2017, 02:46:35 PM
Sdk are you a vegetarian?No. I would kill my yearly cow or pig willingly. I'm not opposed by that. I am only opposed to killing when not nececcesary. Killing two animals a year would be enough to feed your family. Hell growing up one pig almost lasted a year.
We didn't need to go sport hunting.
Post by: SdK on January 13, 2017, 02:47:11 PM
Well if you feed him really old gold fish that are about to die of old age then it is ok.Hahah ok. I'll get a separate tank. ;)
Post by: SdK on January 13, 2017, 02:49:39 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 13, 2017, 06:51:03 PM
Is it more wrong to kill a thousand quail or one elk?
Post by: SdK on January 13, 2017, 06:58:05 PM
Who is killing when not necessary? I mean for fucks sake I shot one small doe and a fat cow and there is no way they'll last beyond March Madness. I haven't read of anyone on this blog killing more than that in a season so I'm sure who you are talking about.When is hunting necessary? Aside from living wild life
Is it more wrong to kill a thousand quail or one elk?
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 13, 2017, 07:00:03 PM
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Post by: The Big Train on January 13, 2017, 07:05:32 PM
Post by: SdK on January 13, 2017, 07:08:28 PM
Hunting is necessary for other things tho, like for wildlife management.Why is this necessary?
Post by: SdK on January 13, 2017, 07:09:25 PM
Anyway, one thing I wanted to mention, caged predators definitely get depressed being deprived of the pleasure of hunting.I plan to set him free in a river at some point. Will spend months adapting his tank to prepare him.
Post by: puniraptor on January 13, 2017, 07:11:15 PM
Do not do this!Anyway, one thing I wanted to mention, caged predators definitely get depressed being deprived of the pleasure of hunting.I plan to set him free in a river at some point. Will spend months adapting his tank to prepare him.
Post by: SdK on January 13, 2017, 07:12:27 PM
Why not? Cichlids will rule. I'll get him a wife first. My pleeks tooDo not do this!Anyway, one thing I wanted to mention, caged predators definitely get depressed being deprived of the pleasure of hunting.I plan to set him free in a river at some point. Will spend months adapting his tank to prepare him.
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 13, 2017, 07:26:11 PM
Hunting is necessary for other things tho, like for wildlife management.Why is this necessary?
Look it up smart guy.
Post by: schreds21 on January 13, 2017, 09:42:01 PM
I have lots of elk hunting stories from when I lived close to the mountains, got my first one at 14Start sharing!
Post by: SdK on January 14, 2017, 12:48:24 AM
Oh I know the answer but disagree with the answer.Hunting is necessary for other things tho, like for wildlife management.Why is this necessary?
Look it up smart guy.
Post by: sys on January 14, 2017, 01:17:07 AM
Why not? Cichlids will rule. I'll get him a wife first. My pleeks too
he'll die when the water gets cold, if not earlier. also, it's generally considered a poor idea because of the risk of transmitting diseases to native animals. if it was an animal that could survive in the area you let it go, it would also be generally considered a poor idea because of the risk that it might outcompete native species.
Post by: SdK on January 14, 2017, 01:48:00 AM
It'd be a science experiment. Perhaps a lake or pond would be a better idea? What about the plecostomus? It's in the catfish family at least.Why not? Cichlids will rule. I'll get him a wife first. My pleeks too
he'll die when the water gets cold, if not earlier. also, it's generally considered a poor idea because of the risk of transmitting diseases to native animals. if it was an animal that could survive in the area you let it go, it would also be generally considered a poor idea because of the risk that it might outcompete native species.
Ideally I'd let him them go in a pond and see how that plays out.
Post by: sys on January 14, 2017, 02:53:10 AM
Quote
The species is limited in its distribution by its intolerance of cooler water temperatures, the lower lethal limit for the species is 12.9 °C (55.22 °F)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscar_(fish)
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 14, 2017, 06:16:04 AM
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Post by: SdK on January 14, 2017, 11:45:03 AM
it's not really an experiment since you would have no means of measuring its survival. also it is a question to which an answer is already known.Fair enough. I won't do it.QuoteThe species is limited in its distribution by its intolerance of cooler water temperatures, the lower lethal limit for the species is 12.9 °C (55.22 °F)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscar_(fish)
Post by: SdK on January 14, 2017, 11:45:33 AM
So SdK is not ok with killing animals unnecessarily, but is planning a science experiment that will most assuredly lead to the death of his pet animal?What an idiot I am. Sys wins I lose.
Post by: Asteriskhead on January 14, 2017, 11:54:42 AM
So SdK is not ok with killing animals unnecessarily, but is planning a science experiment that will most assuredly lead to the death of his pet animal?What an idiot I am. Sys wins I lose.
You don't win or lose. You win or you learn.
Post by: SdK on January 14, 2017, 12:22:36 PM
I'll stick with that. I like it better.So SdK is not ok with killing animals unnecessarily, but is planning a science experiment that will most assuredly lead to the death of his pet animal?What an idiot I am. Sys wins I lose.
You don't win or lose. You win or you learn.
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 15, 2017, 12:14:22 PM
It has been a long time since I've felt a desire to go hunt at all. Lately, I've been thinking about spring turkey season quite a bit. It was always my favorite season. I think I'll see if pmsDad wants to go together this year.
I too am itching for the gobblers. Are you good at it? I suck. But I only hunt public so maybe that's the problem.
Post by: sys on January 15, 2017, 12:47:02 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 15, 2017, 02:43:52 PM
I also like learning the biology and habits and using that knowledge to help me find them.
Sys why have you stopped hunting as much?
Post by: sys on January 15, 2017, 03:13:01 PM
Sys why have you stopped hunting as much?
laziness and living in the wrong part of the world.
Post by: Asteriskhead on January 15, 2017, 03:34:25 PM
It has been a long time since I've felt a desire to go hunt at all. Lately, I've been thinking about spring turkey season quite a bit. It was always my favorite season. I think I'll see if pmsDad wants to go together this year.
I too am itching for the gobblers. Are you good at it? I suck. But I only hunt public so maybe that's the problem.
I greatly enjoy calling them in. The old family farm was a great habitat for them. It was quite easy. They always roasted in one of the tree rows that separated the fields.
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Post by: ednksu on February 19, 2017, 09:39:47 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/popular-remington-700-rifle-linked-to-potentially-deadly-defects/
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Post by: star seed 7 on March 29, 2017, 11:47:20 AM
https://twitter.com/byseanferrell/status/846501434636075008
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 29, 2017, 02:46:33 PM
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Post by: sys on March 29, 2017, 03:15:46 PM
this is your dream, emo! the boy children got this done, no way old man trump even knows bears are real animals.
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 29, 2017, 09:21:34 PM
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on March 30, 2017, 09:13:28 AM
Let's give a govt agency responsibility over game management, hire scientists to make informed scientific decisions, and then limit the most effective way to carry out policy because of feelings. Stupid.
I think you just described Trump’s climate change policy.
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 30, 2017, 09:18:02 AM
Let's give a govt agency responsibility over game management, hire scientists to make informed scientific decisions, and then limit the most effective way to carry out policy because of feelings. Stupid.
I think you just described Trump’s climate change policy.
Take it to the Scott Pruitt thread then.
Are you trying to extrapolate some sort of support of all of a politicians ideas or something?
Post by: XocolateThundarr on March 30, 2017, 09:52:02 AM
Post by: Gooch on March 30, 2017, 09:52:50 AM
I will be re-entering the deer hunting community this year. Just need to get the new rifle sighted in.:peek:
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 30, 2017, 03:00:33 PM
Why should we limit a very effective method of predator control?
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Yeah, I agree. I also think you should be able to hunt with drones. Who really cares how you are killing the animals?
Post by: wetwillie on March 30, 2017, 03:02:52 PM
Why should we limit a very effective method of predator control?
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Yeah, I agree. I also think you should be able to hunt with drones. Who really cares how you are killing the animals?
No negative consequences
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 30, 2017, 03:05:25 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on March 30, 2017, 03:43:07 PM
Let's give a govt agency responsibility over game management, hire scientists to make informed scientific decisions, and then limit the most effective way to carry out policy because of feelings. Stupid.
I think you just described Trump’s climate change policy.
Take it to the Scott Pruitt thread then.
Are you trying to extrapolate some sort of support of all of a politicians ideas or something?
I wasn’t trying to extrapolate or imply anything. Just an interesting parallel that came into my mind when I read your post.
Post by: yoga-like_abana on March 30, 2017, 04:21:15 PM
In the future, I should be able to sit in front of the tv, fly my drone out into the woods, chase an elk to my front door, and then shoot it through the window. Hopefully that happens sooner than later.wow.. that would be awesome!
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Post by: SdK on March 31, 2017, 02:57:02 PM
This fucko
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Post by: SdK on March 31, 2017, 03:16:48 PM
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Post by: SdK on March 31, 2017, 03:18:08 PM
When I was in like 5th grade one of our dogs got out and I saw him chillin in the front yard like an hour later, so I go out to get him. I walk up and can see he's pulling at something with his mouth... Walk a little further and he has a rabbit gutted and is trying to pull the heart out of the body.Growing up we had a tabby cat and she showed up with a full grown rabbit at our back door. I gave her all the love because that was a feat. This killing baby rabbits thing is ridic.
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 31, 2017, 04:40:03 PM
pomeranians are rough ridin' vicious. and not scared of skunks or smelling like skunk.
also stupid looking
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Post by: ben ji on April 01, 2017, 09:18:42 AM
it's not really an experiment since you would have no means of measuring its survival. also it is a question to which an answer is already known.Fair enough. I won't do it.QuoteThe species is limited in its distribution by its intolerance of cooler water temperatures, the lower lethal limit for the species is 12.9 °C (55.22 °F)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscar_(fish)
During the summer of 2004/5 I caught a Oscar Fish someone had let go in a subdivision pond...Lil ben ji was all like WTF, showed the picture to about 10 different people before someone finally identified it as an oscar fish. Caught him on a jig head and grub.
Looked just like this
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Post by: MakeItRain on April 01, 2017, 09:59:29 AM
it's not really an experiment since you would have no means of measuring its survival. also it is a question to which an answer is already known.Fair enough. I won't do it.QuoteThe species is limited in its distribution by its intolerance of cooler water temperatures, the lower lethal limit for the species is 12.9 °C (55.22 °F)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscar_(fish)
During the summer of 2004/5 I caught a Oscar Fish someone had let go in a subdivision pond...Lil ben ji was all like WTF, showed the picture to about 10 different people before someone finally identified it as an oscar fish. Caught him on a jig head and grub.
Looked just like this
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/76/84/40/7684402828294b759cd169f731802896.jpg)
http://myfwc.com/wildlifehabitats/profiles/freshwater/nonnatives/oscar/
Post by: SdK on April 01, 2017, 10:06:16 AM
Haha looks just like the Oscars I have ownedit's not really an experiment since you would have no means of measuring its survival. also it is a question to which an answer is already known.Fair enough. I won't do it.QuoteThe species is limited in its distribution by its intolerance of cooler water temperatures, the lower lethal limit for the species is 12.9 °C (55.22 °F)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscar_(fish)
During the summer of 2004/5 I caught a Oscar Fish someone had let go in a subdivision pond...Lil ben ji was all like WTF, showed the picture to about 10 different people before someone finally identified it as an oscar fish. Caught him on a jig head and grub.
Looked just like this
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/76/84/40/7684402828294b759cd169f731802896.jpg)
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Post by: XocolateThundarr on April 03, 2017, 08:23:42 AM
Guys, turkey season starts tomorrow!
:excited:
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Post by: Emo EMAW on April 03, 2017, 01:16:26 PM
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Post by: Katpappy on April 03, 2017, 01:58:05 PM
Why is he trying to eff it?EVEN KATDADDY WON'T TOUCH THAT!!!
Post by: SEK_EMAW on April 03, 2017, 02:00:46 PM
Why is he trying to eff it?
eff off.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 03, 2017, 06:38:50 PM
Bow or shotgun or golden eagle if you can prove Mongolian descent.
Some of the laws in this country just make no sense at all.
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Post by: SEK_EMAW on April 10, 2017, 10:49:20 AM
Let's hear some deets on this deal.
Post by: SdK on April 10, 2017, 10:55:09 AM
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Post by: SdK on April 10, 2017, 07:17:31 PM
Hunting lions/tigers/bears isn't for me but I still support it where it is absolutely essential for conservation.A lot of my disdain comes from living in Montana and seeing an airport full of mounted predators and people that think killing magnificent hunters is some super masculine feat. I have more respect for lions, jaguar, tigers, bears, killer whales, sharks, cheetahs, wolves, eagles, hawks, than I do for crappie, bass, deer, elk, turkeys, pheasant, etc.
I'm coming around to thinking id enjoy going on a hunt. Ideally it'd be cold as eff and I'd have to hunt to survive. Preferably in a group of 3 or 4 and itd be a 2 to 3 week expedition.
Post by: SdK on April 10, 2017, 07:20:41 PM
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Post by: wetwillie on April 10, 2017, 08:39:10 PM
Post by: SdK on April 10, 2017, 08:43:11 PM
I get that. It's an emotional thing. We, myself included, tend to respect the grittier and more intelligent animals. The more I learn about deer tho the more I find out how intelligent they can be. I kinda have to be careful because what if I decide I don't want to kill them? It's a good thing they are delicious.Hahaha well we can't have that. Make sure to come up with two dumb things they do to every smart thing. Problem solved.
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 10, 2017, 08:43:56 PM
Post by: SEK_EMAW on April 11, 2017, 08:12:02 AM
Basically my buddy is lucky as eff and we called in these jakes on WIHA and he got two with one arrow. No blind, just hiding behind a tree. Crazy lucky.
Two with one arrow is not something you see everyday.
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Post by: SdK on April 13, 2017, 10:10:05 PM
Can't wait to see the pics, Emo. Congrats!
SdK BIL has a bow. Maybe I'll try my hand at the hunting. I'll have to run up and slit throats to make death quick. I'll look through dad's footlockers the ka bar he brought back from desert storm.
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 15, 2017, 09:01:18 PM
Public lands, archery, no blind. 21.1 pounds, 1" spurs, 10.5" beard and a bonus 6.5" beard. Trophy turkey for sure.
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 15, 2017, 09:02:12 PM
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Post by: Emo EMAW on April 16, 2017, 08:39:06 AM
DSLR on a tripod or my buddy on his phone.
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Post by: SdK on April 16, 2017, 12:48:16 PM
sdk, assuming you were full body camo'd out to sneak up on those monsters?No. Shorts and sneakers. I did take my backpack off. But no other stealth.
Post by: SdK on April 16, 2017, 12:49:27 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 16, 2017, 12:53:42 PM
sdk, assuming you were full body camo'd out to sneak up on those monsters?No. Shorts and sneakers. I did take my backpack off. But no other stealth.
sd is not so subtly mocking the contrast between my hunting and your Yellowstone experience.
Post by: star seed 7 on April 16, 2017, 12:57:43 PM
They are awful. But, necessary for creek crossings. And they can make anyone look like coon ass for sure.
Why don't you buy comfortable ones?
Post by: SdK on April 16, 2017, 01:04:33 PM
Ballers ball. I'm good at stalking.sdk, assuming you were full body camo'd out to sneak up on those monsters?No. Shorts and sneakers. I did take my backpack off. But no other stealth.
sd is not so subtly mocking the contrast between my hunting and your Yellowstone experience.
Post by: SdK on April 16, 2017, 01:05:00 PM
eff I misreadsdk, assuming you were full body camo'd out to sneak up on those monsters?No. Shorts and sneakers. I did take my backpack off. But no other stealth.
sd is not so subtly mocking the contrast between my hunting and your Yellowstone experience.
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 16, 2017, 06:52:33 PM
They are awful. But, necessary for creek crossings. And they can make anyone look like coon ass for sure.
Why don't you buy comfortable ones?
I'm not sure if they make comfortable ones. The really expensive ones are like super scent locker type, maybe they are comfortable. I wear them so infrequently I didn't care to splurge. If I hunted deer out of a tree stand more I would buy nice ones.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 17, 2017, 12:00:12 PM
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Post by: SdK on May 23, 2017, 09:03:21 AM
Good riddance.
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 23, 2017, 10:39:20 AM
Post by: SdK on May 23, 2017, 10:49:09 AM
I've come around on turkey, deer, quail, etc. I'll remain a catch and release fisherman, but meh to those that like to keep what they catch.
Hunting lions, jaguar, elephants, orca, whales, eagles, hawks, etc is something I'll never support.
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 23, 2017, 10:51:16 AM
Post by: SdK on May 23, 2017, 11:01:01 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 23, 2017, 11:03:54 AM
I guess now I'm curious, which species do you support the extinction of? Why?
Post by: Tobias on May 23, 2017, 11:06:26 AM
Post by: SdK on May 23, 2017, 11:08:06 AM
Post by: mocat on May 23, 2017, 11:17:57 AM
Do you support the extinction of those species?
oh man i can't wait to hear this
Post by: Tobias on May 23, 2017, 11:18:22 AM
Post by: SdK on May 23, 2017, 11:19:38 AM
i love when eems does this :drool:I know what he's setting me up for, I'm restraining from making that leap all on my own and instead am slow playing. I'll need time to construct my rebuttal. :D
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 23, 2017, 11:20:16 AM
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Post by: Emo EMAW on May 23, 2017, 03:42:12 PM
I don't support the extinction of any species. I'm not following how my post brought about this question.
I know it may be counter intuitive, but legal hunting is conservation. You should go and research what happened to the populations of animals you listed in countries after their legal hunting was outlawed. Long story short, legal hunting creates an incentive for local people not to exterminate them, which they have and will do for a variety of reasons.
Post by: Tobias on May 23, 2017, 03:45:38 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 23, 2017, 03:47:21 PM
I'm not surprised you feel the way you do though, weren't you the one that wanted to liberate a non native species of fish into a local waterway, as an experiment?
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Post by: SdK on May 23, 2017, 03:54:44 PM
The crux of the debate is you feel humans own the Earth and I think we belong to Earth.
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 23, 2017, 04:06:31 PM
I believe it is our duty to take care of the Earth. You believe it will take care of itself.Yup!
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Post by: SdK on May 23, 2017, 04:07:18 PM
I believe it is our duty to take care of the Earth. You believe it will take care of itself.I'd be in favor of a most dangerous game style punishment for poachers. That's how I feel we can take care of the Earth. Legalizing hunting to prevent poaching is hilarious to me. Give the hunters that want a challenge a chance to hunt the poachers. Win win. I'm sure that would bring in a lot of coin.
Post by: meow meow on May 23, 2017, 04:08:38 PM
Post by: SdK on May 23, 2017, 04:12:01 PM
i really doubt you find a lot of people that want to pay to hunt a human beingI do not. I can see no greater hunting challenge. If I had the money to hunt poachers, id be all about that.
If you think scenarios like Hostel don't actually exist, you are mistaken.
Post by: star seed 7 on May 23, 2017, 04:12:50 PM
i really doubt you find a lot of people that want to pay to hunt a human being
There is nothing hunters want to kill more than the stuff they aren't allowed to kill, and humans are at the top of that list
Post by: Tobias on May 23, 2017, 04:13:34 PM
Post by: SdK on May 23, 2017, 04:13:41 PM
Especially trophy hunters.i really doubt you find a lot of people that want to pay to hunt a human being
There is nothing hunters want to kill more than the stuff they aren't allowed to kill, and humans are at the top of that list
Post by: meow meow on May 23, 2017, 04:15:31 PM
Post by: mocat on May 23, 2017, 04:15:57 PM
it's pretty pud, just put an elephant in your garage and leave the door open
the elephant would run away tobias. you have to put it somewhere secure (the living room)
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 23, 2017, 04:16:33 PM
I believe it is our duty to take care of the Earth. You believe it will take care of itself.I'd be in favor of a most dangerous game style punishment for poachers. That's how I feel we can take care of the Earth. Legalizing hunting to prevent poaching is hilarious to me. Give the hunters that want a challenge a chance to hunt the poachers. Win win. I'm sure that would bring in a lot of coin.
You think a broke ass African country gives two shits about enforcement of anti-poaching laws? You're mistaken.
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 23, 2017, 04:17:08 PM
Especially trophy hunters.i really doubt you find a lot of people that want to pay to hunt a human being
There is nothing hunters want to kill more than the stuff they aren't allowed to kill, and humans are at the top of that list
What do you think a trophy hunter is?
Post by: mocat on May 23, 2017, 04:20:26 PM
You think a broke ass African country gives two shits about enforcement of anti-poaching laws? You're mistaken.
you mean right now?
Post by: SdK on May 23, 2017, 04:23:56 PM
I don't think they give a crap at all. Just as this conversation doesn't mean anything either. Just two cat fans sharing views on the interweb.I believe it is our duty to take care of the Earth. You believe it will take care of itself.I'd be in favor of a most dangerous game style punishment for poachers. That's how I feel we can take care of the Earth. Legalizing hunting to prevent poaching is hilarious to me. Give the hunters that want a challenge a chance to hunt the poachers. Win win. I'm sure that would bring in a lot of coin.
You think a broke ass African country gives two shits about enforcement of anti-poaching laws? You're mistaken.
Post by: SdK on May 23, 2017, 04:29:15 PM
I may have used that term loosely as many things can be considered a trophy from a hunt.Especially trophy hunters.i really doubt you find a lot of people that want to pay to hunt a human being
There is nothing hunters want to kill more than the stuff they aren't allowed to kill, and humans are at the top of that list
What do you think a trophy hunter is?
I've assumed, perhaps incorrectly, that main reason for hunting a predator was to feel like a badass for mounting some part of it on your wall and taking pictures.
I haven't heard much about flying over to an exotic locale to hunt Rhinos, lions, bears, elephants, etc for sustenance.
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 29, 2017, 01:47:57 PM
use mouse traps to catch and kill the mouses. you don't use an exterminator for mouses.These traps add up because we use super elite ones. They're like $6 for a 2 pack. That's $18 already out of my fun $ account. :curse:
Post by: SdK on June 29, 2017, 01:50:23 PM
We need a wacky problems master thread.
Post by: mocat on June 29, 2017, 01:57:18 PM
use mouse traps to catch and kill the mouses. you don't use an exterminator for mouses.These traps add up because we use super elite ones. They're like $6 for a 2 pack. That's $18 already out of my fun $ account. :curse:
or just live with mice i guess
Post by: Tobias on June 29, 2017, 02:00:17 PM
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 29, 2017, 02:09:49 PM
Post by: mocat on June 29, 2017, 02:10:16 PM
Post by: Tobias on June 29, 2017, 02:24:46 PM
When you move, make sure you seal your boxes tight. You don't want any hitchhikers.
we call them "hop-ons" in my family
Post by: SdK on June 29, 2017, 02:27:04 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 29, 2017, 02:27:37 PM
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Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 29, 2017, 02:44:29 PM
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Also, put out poison in the basement and under the sink. You don't need an exterminator.
Post by: star seed 7 on June 29, 2017, 02:46:41 PM
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cf3, i'm afraid Mrs. wacky would faint if we used the one you just posted. With these you don't see the dead mouse and she likes it that way.
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Post by: bucket on June 29, 2017, 04:27:45 PM
hold the eff on, can't believe no one has asked this, but why in the hell are mouse traps coming out of the fun $ account?
:lol:
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 29, 2017, 05:06:39 PM
Post by: SdK on June 29, 2017, 05:10:27 PM
hold the eff on, can't believe no one has asked this, but why in the hell are mouse traps coming out of the fun $ account?Oh we saw. We should just start that Wacky problems thread
Post by: Tobias on June 29, 2017, 05:11:38 PM
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Post by: SdK on July 07, 2017, 02:55:18 PM
The hunter killed it, skinned it, and took the skull. Leaving the rest behind. Has it mounted, etc.
What's the point? I can appreciate the stalking, camping, hiking aspect. I don't understand the need to kill for a trophy.
Post by: SdK on July 07, 2017, 02:56:59 PM
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Post by: SdK on July 08, 2017, 08:35:21 AM
Is killing for killings sake that much fun? Am I missing out?
Post by: ben ji on June 16, 2019, 09:46:16 AM
Background -
Between my Fathers and Aunts land (connected) we have around 960 acres of pasture/irrigated/dryland/crp land that I can hunt in northwest KS. I was looking at the the hunting atlas for KS and there is also a bajillion acres of walk in hunting land (mainly irrigated) just across the road from the farm. I will be going out there this fall with a couple of buddies who hunt but only 1 of them has ever been pheasant hunting before and that was like once.
I was banking on my good friend alexfromOP coming back in town and using his bird dogs but he cant make it anymore so I doubt we will have any dogs to work with.
I have been doing some basic research online
Questions -
1. What areas should we focus on first? The ditches/windbreaks by the house? The "creek" that runs through the pasture? The Irrigated or Dryland crop land? The fringes where everything meets?
2. Lets assume there are 4/5 of us with no good bird dog and talk strategy. Should we just slowly walk in a line about 20 ft apart until a bird flies up? I've read about having a "blocker" at the end of a field, is this effective?
3. What other tips do you have for a novice pheasant hunter?
Post by: pissclams on June 16, 2019, 11:56:51 AM
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Post by: star seed 7 on June 16, 2019, 01:25:23 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 16, 2019, 01:29:30 PM
We need a wacky problems master thread.
Look at this amazing idea. I miss Emo
Post by: wetwillie on June 16, 2019, 01:37:44 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 16, 2019, 02:27:00 PM
Post by: sys on June 16, 2019, 02:42:33 PM
if there's lots of birds you can also just walk around aimlessly and at least a few of them will fly close enough for you to shoot them.
Post by: ben ji on June 16, 2019, 08:59:22 PM
even if your dogs don't give a crap about birds, just having a dog present can help induce the pheasants to fly. otherwise you probably need to plan on using the terrain or position people to get them to stop running and start flying.
if there's lots of birds you can also just walk around aimlessly and at least a few of them will fly close enough for you to shoot them.
Sys, I've taken lady out with me when we shot guns 2 times. The first time she was out there when we were shooting 30.06 and she climbed in my trunk and curled up. Last year I took her out to western KS and was pew pewing with a .22, she curled up in a ball in the front passenger foot area of my dads trunk.
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Post by: Ksuminnesotacat on June 17, 2019, 06:40:22 AM
I have never hunted but recently won a shotgun at a pew pew forever banquet. I've always liked eating the game people have killed and think I might enjoy killing a bird or two. How does someone with zero background in hunting get started? Like, seems like a lot of barriers to entry. Also, do people actually hunt on public land? Seems like a good way to get accidentally 187'd by another hunter. :dunno:
Look up your local Pheasants forever. They will help anyone get into the sport public lands can be good you just have to be able to travel farther than the hunters who only want to meander 1/4 mile from the truck.
Post by: pissclams on June 17, 2019, 09:33:16 AM
good luck guys, i've given you everything you need
Post by: TaqMan on June 17, 2019, 09:39:11 AM
here's how to pheasant hunt: walk through a field.
good luck guys, i've given you everything you need
This. Bird hunting is not complicated. You walk around, they fly up, you shoot. Take a crack at a few clay pigeons to see if you can even hit a moving target first.
Post by: ben ji on October 04, 2019, 03:34:36 PM
Blasted 4 Pheasant and 1 quail, didnt miss a shot. My buddies dad had 2 dogs that did like 90% of the work, they run around, find the bird then you go kick around until it flies up...it was a BLAST and I can't wait to do some real pheasant hunting this fall.
Seriously considering adopting some dog from a shelter that looks like it came from a hunting breed just so I can take it with me and hope it performs as well as the dogs I was with today.
Post by: star seed 7 on October 04, 2019, 03:39:57 PM
Post by: Katpappy on October 04, 2019, 06:51:13 PM
Post by: sys on October 06, 2019, 01:15:20 AM
Seriously considering adopting some dog from a shelter that looks like it came from a hunting breed just so I can take it with me and hope it performs as well as the dogs I was with today.
my border collie always did fine on the birds. your dog can figure it out.
Post by: ben ji on October 06, 2019, 11:24:08 AM
Seriously considering adopting some dog from a shelter that looks like it came from a hunting breed just so I can take it with me and hope it performs as well as the dogs I was with today.
my border collie always did fine on the birds. your dog can figure it out.
Lady is extremely gun shy though, just holding a gun sends her cowering....I've taken her out in the field shooting a couple of time and she runs back to the car and curls up in a ball cowering.
Any tips on breaking her of this in the next month? Should I just walk around the house with a shotgun for the next month so she gets used to it?
Post by: star seed 7 on October 06, 2019, 11:59:14 AM
Post by: ben ji on October 06, 2019, 12:44:19 PM
You should be always protecting your home, you never know when a liberal will decide it's your turn for a home invasion
Good call
Post by: Katpappy on October 06, 2019, 12:50:30 PM
Seriously considering adopting some dog from a shelter that looks like it came from a hunting breed just so I can take it with me and hope it performs as well as the dogs I was with today.
my border collie always did fine on the birds. your dog can figure it out.
Lady is extremely gun shy though, just holding a gun sends her cowering....I've taken her out in the field shooting a couple of time and she runs back to the car and curls up in a ball cowering.
Any tips on breaking her of this in the next month? Should I just walk around the house with a shotgun for the next month so she gets used to it?
Put foam ear pugs on her when shooting. This may help with the fear. Also, get some chickens and shoot one of them at a bird hunting distance. Make sure Lady has ear protection and is next to you when you shoot the chicken. Then give her a treat and take her with you to get the chicken. Make sure she gets to smell the bird and give it to her went you get back to the house. This will give her a positive experience. Be sure to repeat this ordeal for about a week or until she starts to enjoy it. Dogs love rewards and will get use to the loudness of the gun knowing what comes from it. Remember this process takes time; so have patience.
Post by: sys on October 06, 2019, 10:29:34 PM
Lady is extremely gun shy though.
oh, yeah, that will be tough. katdaddy is right that you can probably turn it around and his method would probably work, but i dunno if it's worth the effort.
Post by: bucket on October 07, 2019, 06:41:55 PM
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Post by: Ksuminnesotacat on October 07, 2019, 07:49:08 PM
sotacat, I'd recommend that you not eat diseased animals. However, the deer population appears to be safe in Minnesota so you shouldn't worry.
Thanks for the concern Buck I live in Kansas. Either you run from Sasquatch, or you run with Sasquatch. I choose the latter. Jerky especially venison jerky is good. I agree if I saw a droopy eared ruminant walking around like a good ge er on a late agiville cruise I would leave it contact the Kwdp and have it dispatched for coyote bait. Don’t let em scare ya though.
Post by: Spracne on October 07, 2019, 08:02:40 PM
Post by: Ksuminnesotacat on October 07, 2019, 08:07:50 PM
Ur a droopy eared ruminant . . . Jk, sota
Sometimes yes :Woot:
Post by: Katpappy on October 07, 2019, 09:51:59 PM
Only if you have a thing for eating Brains, spinal columns and or spinal fluid soup with some fried bone marrow but if not then your ok. :Lurk: also deadly to bovine ruminants not predatory meat eating entities. As insinuated in the twitter headline.
I knew someone with mad cow disease; and that's no BULL. :bs:
Post by: Ksuminnesotacat on October 08, 2019, 06:18:55 AM
Only if you have a thing for eating Brains, spinal columns and or spinal fluid soup with some fried bone marrow but if not then your ok. :Lurk: also deadly to bovine ruminants not predatory meat eating entities. As insinuated in the twitter headline.
I knew someone with mad cow disease; and that's no BULL. :bs: yes and a horrible disease it is a different prion than the cwd variety
Post by: star seed 7 on October 08, 2019, 12:52:40 PM
Post by: Katpappy on October 08, 2019, 08:31:12 PM
Post by: Ksuminnesotacat on October 08, 2019, 09:14:51 PM
Humans can’t get mad cow disease, since it can only occur, by definition, in cattle. They can, however, develop a related infection—called variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (vCJD)—by eating contaminated meat. The most well-known outbreak of vCJD occurred in the United Kingdom in the 1980s and 1990s.
The cwd variety in deer has not been documented to be transferred via meat that’s why they advise to not be exposed to the spinal fluid, spinal column and or any brain and bone marrow. Not disagreeing with anyone here it’s not a joke but it’s not a valid reason to not enjoy the outdoors and partake in deer hunting if that’s your thing if not that s cool too! :thumbs:
Post by: meow meow on October 09, 2019, 08:35:48 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on October 09, 2019, 08:44:44 AM
Round 2 - kdiddy with the tko
Post by: Ksuminnesotacat on October 09, 2019, 04:39:03 PM
sounds like sotacat is in the pockets of big buck hunter
No hope it scares the hell out of every other hunter out there! More access for me! :horrorsurprise:
Post by: ben ji on October 14, 2019, 09:39:41 PM
Might of had a breakthru tonight. Usually when I'm going to take her for a walk I'll say "Do you want to go for a walk?" and she will go nuts and get excited. I did that tonight while holding the shotgun (in my house) and she still went nuts and ignored that I was holding it.
Will make sure I'm holding it every time I ask her to go for a walk from here on out.
T - 26 Days until we find out how well the training has worked.
Post by: Ksuminnesotacat on October 15, 2019, 05:39:39 AM
1 week update on breaking lady of her gun shyness. Been holding the shotgun around the house and putting it next to her bed and food bowl to get her used to it, she's will eventually come get a treat out of my hand when I'm holding it.
Might of had a breakthru tonight. Usually when I'm going to take her for a walk I'll say "Do you want to go for a walk?" and she will go nuts and get excited. I did that tonight while holding the shotgun (in my house) and she still went nuts and ignored that I was holding it.
Will make sure I'm holding it every time I ask her to go for a walk from here on out.
T - 26 Days until we find out how well the training has worked.
Lots of positive reinforcement BenJi if you have a pond you can also if she likes the water play fetch. While she is swimming fire the gun as well a lot of times they will not focus on that while swimming and doing what they love fetching!
Post by: 8manpick on October 15, 2019, 07:52:33 AM
Post by: ben ji on October 15, 2019, 09:10:33 AM
Going pheasant hunting in South Dakota this weekend!
Best of luck, I hope you just slay some roosters. Boom Boom Pow
Post by: ben ji on October 15, 2019, 09:12:41 AM
1 week update on breaking lady of her gun shyness. Been holding the shotgun around the house and putting it next to her bed and food bowl to get her used to it, she's will eventually come get a treat out of my hand when I'm holding it.
Might of had a breakthru tonight. Usually when I'm going to take her for a walk I'll say "Do you want to go for a walk?" and she will go nuts and get excited. I did that tonight while holding the shotgun (in my house) and she still went nuts and ignored that I was holding it.
Will make sure I'm holding it every time I ask her to go for a walk from here on out.
T - 26 Days until we find out how well the training has worked.
Lots of positive reinforcement BenJi if you have a pond you can also if she likes the water play fetch. While she is swimming fire the gun as well a lot of times they will not focus on that while swimming and doing what they love fetching!
I dont have an area around where I live that I can go take her and blast off some boom booms in a field. I was thinking about maybe taking her to a gun range and sitting outside with her for a bit to get her used to the sounds, will make sure I have plenty of treats for her.
Post by: ben ji on October 23, 2019, 03:32:57 PM
Going pheasant hunting in South Dakota this weekend!
How many pheasants did you blast in SD?
Post by: 8manpick on October 23, 2019, 05:10:10 PM
Not that many this year. Group total was 16 in 3 days I think. Bird count is way down this year and lots of water in the fields means all the crops are still out. Not great hunting conditions, but great fun was had!Going pheasant hunting in South Dakota this weekend!
How many pheasants did you blast in SD?
This guy landed in a couple feet of water, and a very good dog helped bring him back
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Post by: ben ji on November 17, 2019, 08:20:33 PM
Our only goal was to make sure we did not shoot each other and we accomplished that. We mainly hunted some CRP fields on my aunts land and found some pheasants. We had a rudimentary knowledge of how to push a field and flushed up a total of 7 hens and 6 roosters over the course of the weekend.
Of those 6 roosters only 3 of them were shot at and only 1 was hit (by me). We searched for the bird for around 20 minutes but could not find it so I'm guessing he took off running.
The weather was amazing and we all had a great time, just a peaceful feeling you get holding a gun walking through a field of shoulder high grass on a sunny 65 degree day.
Super Embarrasing Side Story: I had 3 other roosters in my sights and pulled the trigger but nothing happened because I had my safety on. Three. Different. Times. Safety first tho!
Post by: ben ji on November 17, 2019, 08:29:03 PM
Well after spending the last month making her sleep next to a shotgun she finally got over her fear of seeing guns and actually did pretty well in the field until she got tired. She probably would of done better if she hadn't chased a jackrabbit a quarter of a mile through a freshly planted alfalfa field before we even got to the hunting grounds.
When we first started she did a great job of working ahead of me with the other dogs in the CRP field but could only last about 1.5 hours. After that decided it was easier if she let me break the trail and just followed behind me.
By the second half of the day she was beat and when I shot the pheasant we couldn't find she refused to help and ran back towards the truck. She followed about 100 yards behind us while we pushed the field but eventually I couldnt see her anymore. When we finished pushing the field I went back looking for her and found her walking in the pasture by the creek.
She looked like an old dog last night when she could barely get up because she was so sore from running all day. She was fine by the morning but refused to follow me into the CRP this morning when I tried to kick up a couple before I left.
Post by: wetwillie on November 17, 2019, 08:39:42 PM
Post by: sys on November 17, 2019, 08:54:47 PM
When we first started she did a great job of working ahead of me with the other dogs in the CRP field but could only last about 1.5 hours. After that decided it was easier if she let me break the trail and just followed behind me.
even just walking with you, she'll help a lot in convincing the pheasants that it makes more sense to fly than run.
Post by: Church Creeper on November 17, 2019, 09:29:38 PM
Post by: ben ji on November 17, 2019, 10:11:15 PM
Enjoy the bird hunting now. Kansas is about to be void of birds.
As someone who is currently looking into getting a bird dog I am curious why you would say this.
Post by: ben ji on November 18, 2019, 08:09:00 AM
When we first started she did a great job of working ahead of me with the other dogs in the CRP field but could only last about 1.5 hours. After that decided it was easier if she let me break the trail and just followed behind me.
even just walking with you, she'll help a lot in convincing the pheasants that it makes more sense to fly than run.
Sys, I appreciate all of your help. If you ever find yourself in NW Kansas with a shotgun in hand let me know and we can walk around fields and say things like "Whoa" and "Birds are here" and maybe get to shoot our gun if a rooster flies up.
Post by: Church Creeper on November 18, 2019, 10:55:55 AM
Enjoy the bird hunting now. Kansas is about to be void of birds.
As someone who is currently looking into getting a bird dog I am curious why you would say this.
I guess my wording was a little extreme. It probably depends on where you plan on hunting. I've just heard about declines in the south-central region due to changes in habitat (explosion of cotton instead of wheat, milo, corn, etc.) and higher numbers of predators. Feral cat ranching can possibly harm numbers too. No specific data, just the feeling of a lot of hunters I talk too who hunt Sedgwick, Sumner, Harper counties.
Post by: XocolateThundarr on November 18, 2019, 02:37:36 PM
Enjoy the bird hunting now. Kansas is about to be void of birds.
As someone who is currently looking into getting a bird dog I am curious why you would say this.
I guess my wording was a little extreme. It probably depends on where you plan on hunting. I've just heard about declines in the south-central region due to changes in habitat (explosion of cotton instead of wheat, milo, corn, etc.) and higher numbers of predators. Feral cat ranching can possibly harm numbers too. No specific data, just the feeling of a lot of hunters I talk too who hunt Sedgwick, Sumner, Harper counties.
I've never seen the number of pheasants in south central KS comparable to what is in the Great Bend/Hays area (where I grew up).
Post by: meow meow on November 18, 2019, 02:50:54 PM
Post by: Church Creeper on November 18, 2019, 03:10:52 PM
been a long time since i've been to south central kansas, didn't realize cotton was a big thing, when did that start happening and why?
Not exactly sure. Some others on here may know more since it's not my area. But I'm guessing profitability is better than grain, water demand, and there are a couple of cotton gins in the area.
Post by: Institutional Control on November 18, 2019, 03:21:18 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 18, 2019, 03:26:10 PM
Post by: sys on November 18, 2019, 03:45:26 PM
sys, I appreciate all of your help. If you ever find yourself in NW Kansas with a shotgun in hand let me know and we can walk around fields and say things like "Whoa" and "Birds are here" and maybe get to shoot our gun if a rooster flies up.
i haven't killed a game animal in probably 10 years, i don't know if i still have it in me. more likely to borrow a cat and take it for a spin on the gopher fields.
Post by: slackcat on November 19, 2019, 04:10:05 AM
sys, I appreciate all of your help. If you ever find yourself in NW Kansas with a shotgun in hand let me know and we can walk around fields and say things like "Whoa" and "Birds are here" and maybe get to shoot our gun if a rooster flies up.
i haven't killed a game animal in probably 10 years, i don't know if i still have it in me. more likely to borrow a cat and take it for a spin on the gopher fields.
lol
Post by: ben ji on November 19, 2019, 08:21:55 AM
Right now I'm leaning towards a pointer but I can be swayed...Did a quick google search and emailed a couple kennels. Looks like I can get a 5-7 month German Short Haired Pointer that is gun broke for $800. A little bit more expensive than the $100 adoption fee for lady.....
Post by: Institutional Control on November 19, 2019, 08:43:18 AM
Post by: wetwillie on November 19, 2019, 08:59:08 AM
Post by: ben ji on November 19, 2019, 09:03:20 AM
Pointing lab black jack kennels chanute ksYeah, I'm not paying $1400 for a dog. $800 is more than I was looking to spend.
You should get a labrador so when you give up hunting you'll have a great chill best friend and not some hyper retriever running around knocking crap over.
Thats why I'm waiting until the spring!
Post by: meow meow on November 19, 2019, 09:04:20 AM
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Post by: meow meow on November 19, 2019, 09:08:09 AM
Post by: Church Creeper on November 19, 2019, 09:58:17 AM
Post by: sys on November 19, 2019, 11:08:52 AM
Post by: slackcat on November 20, 2019, 07:27:43 AM
Post by: ben ji on December 02, 2019, 09:32:38 AM
http://kars.ku.edu/maps/kansaslandcover/ Filter by "Kansas GAP Landcover" and it will show you CRP Lands.
You can cross reference it with the map of walk in public hunting access to see where they match up and where the birds might be hiding.
http://ksdot.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=a6467b7c4f714053ab63003607674413
I'm going hunting this weekend and found a couple places within 20 minutes of the cat ranch that I plan to check out!
Post by: ben ji on December 06, 2019, 08:23:16 AM
https://www.ultimatepheasanthunting.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?31-Kansas
Heading out this afternoon with my tracking dog lady to see if we can kick up some birds by ourselves. Getting excited! :excited: :Woohoo:
Post by: ben ji on December 07, 2019, 07:15:11 PM
Spent all day walking around a field with a shotgun and killed a bird.
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Post by: ben ji on December 07, 2019, 07:16:39 PM
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Post by: ben ji on December 07, 2019, 07:19:08 PM
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Post by: ben ji on December 07, 2019, 09:19:44 PM
Bird is in the fridge for now, will google recipes/brines when I get it back home. Hoping to snag another tomorrow morning before I leave.
Post by: ben ji on December 07, 2019, 09:26:28 PM
I almost had to step on a bird to flush it up and then 4-5 more in the same area would fly up. rough ridin' exhilarating and panic inducing at the same time.
Majority were in the 20 acre CRP field that borders a recently harvested corn field (was not harvested when I was out a month ago). When I hunted that field around 5pm I saw 2 seperate groups of pheasants on the edge of the corn/CRP heading in for the night.
Unfortunately I have no idea what I'm doing since this was my second time and they clearly saw me first.
Post by: sys on December 07, 2019, 09:52:39 PM
Post by: Church Creeper on December 08, 2019, 08:14:06 PM
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Post by: ben ji on December 13, 2019, 08:12:23 PM
7 month old pointer mutt, gonna make her the best bird dog west of the Missoura!
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Post by: ben ji on December 13, 2019, 08:16:11 PM
I'm not going to hunt her this year but plan on taking her out in a couple of weeks to pew pew some .22's about 20 yards away while she is eating or something to make sure she is not terrified of guns.
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Post by: star seed 7 on December 13, 2019, 08:21:51 PM
Post by: schreds21 on December 13, 2019, 10:14:20 PM
Post by: ben ji on December 13, 2019, 10:29:32 PM
i think shooting coyotes is weird and mean. i loved killing them with greyhounds with my grandfather, though. pretty hypocritical of me. a lot of the things i love doing are really cruel to one animal or another, but i love animals. it's weird.Was rereading this thread looking for pheasant hunting advice and saw this.
My dad told me that my cousin that currently hunts coyotes from a stand used to have a pack of greyhounds to hunt them with, I thought my dad was crazy but apparently this was/is a thing?
I need more details. All my dad told me was the greyhounds would chase the coyote down and then the old grizzled veteran greyhound would go for the kill shot on the throat.
Can you confirm/deny?
Post by: schreds21 on December 13, 2019, 10:43:35 PM
Post by: Katpappy on December 13, 2019, 10:44:09 PM
i think shooting coyotes is weird and mean. i loved killing them with greyhounds with my grandfather, though. pretty hypocritical of me. a lot of the things i love doing are really cruel to one animal or another, but i love animals. it's weird.Was rereading this thread looking for pheasant hunting advice and saw this.
My dad told me that my cousin that currently hunts coyotes from a stand used to have a pack of greyhounds to hunt them with, I thought my dad was crazy but apparently this was/is a thing?
I need more details. All my dad told me was the greyhounds would chase the coyote down and then the old grizzled veteran greyhound would go for the kill shot on the throat.
Can you confirm/deny?
Did you know coyotes are not a related species to dogs.
Post by: ben ji on December 13, 2019, 11:03:23 PM
Discipline discipline discipline. Hunting is bred into them. Discipline you must teach. Simple commands such as sit, here, down are just repetitive stuff. Establish dominance and reinforce discipline with stuff you do every day. When you let it outside, make it sit until you say ok or whatever release command you want to use. When you let it back inside, make it sit and dont let it come in until given a command. When you feed it, make it sit and dont let it eat until given a release command. These are things that are done every day and the easiest way to reinforce discipline/dominance
:cheers:
The nick saban approach, I like it.
Post by: schreds21 on December 13, 2019, 11:08:11 PM
Post by: ben ji on December 13, 2019, 11:51:36 PM
I like to grab an extension cord and my spare microwave (keep it covered in the fall) and head to the backyard. load that sucker up with bird seed and #blessed blue jays and possums and crap
feels great when you're able to best these magnificent creatures on a level playing field such as you've described
while i don't microwave my prey, i have rigged a loud speaker in my backyard (i live in a rural community on several acres of land) to emit a super ultrasonic soundwave (that only animals can hear) when my motion detectors sense something on my land that is so loud it actually bursts the prey's ear drums and causes their ears to begin pouring out copious amounts of blood. the blood travels to the electric grid i have inlaid into the ground and acts as a conduit to the animals brains by which the electric grid sends jolts of 1 million volts in 3, 30 second increments. the first kills the animal, the 2nd cooks the animal, and the 3rd dries the cooked carcass into jerky that i eat when i go on my other hunting trips. makes for a great snack. call me old fashioned but i just love the sport of it all. go cats.
Amazing post here by clams.
Post by: sys on December 14, 2019, 04:33:09 PM
My dad told me that my cousin that currently hunts coyotes from a stand used to have a pack of greyhounds to hunt them with, I thought my dad was crazy but apparently this was/is a thing?
I need more details. All my dad told me was the greyhounds would chase the coyote down and then the old grizzled veteran greyhound would go for the kill shot on the throat.
Can you confirm/deny?
yeah, that's about it. there's a little variation in coyote finding technique (my grandfather had the greyhounds in box in a pickup and would drive around in fields and such until someone saw a coyote) but basically you find a coyote then the dogs chase it and kill it.
the fastest dog is the throw dog and has to trip the coyote, the kill dog is the boldest dog that will jump on the coyote and kill it and how ever many other dogs there are will bite at it a bit after the kill dog starts the fight.
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Post by: ben ji on December 15, 2019, 10:10:49 AM
Hardest thing to get Ruby to do is recall. Can use an e-collar but be careful!
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Bdubs, how did you train your dog? (Also thats a pretty dog)
Post by: star seed 7 on December 15, 2019, 10:13:00 AM
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Post by: meow meow on December 17, 2019, 11:34:45 AM
Post by: Katpappy on December 17, 2019, 01:26:02 PM
Gun Dog is the name of my band fwiw
So you hunt birds?
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Post by: ben ji on December 27, 2019, 08:22:46 AM
I got a 40ft check cord to make sure that does not happen again and will let her run around some fields to try and find some birds but will not be shooting over her. She will stay inside when I am actually trying to shoot birds. Tentative plan is to introduce gunfire from about 50-75 yards away while she is eating to see how she reacts.
My cousin texted me this on Christmas Morning when he was checking the cows
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About 30 pheasant flew out of the windbreak behind the house this AM
:Woohoo: :excited: :Carl: :crossfingers: :surprised: :runaway:
Post by: porky morgan on December 27, 2019, 11:56:12 AM
Post by: porky morgan on December 27, 2019, 12:04:15 PM
My lab pup, Mojo, had zero issues with guns after that.
Post by: 8manpick on December 27, 2019, 03:36:07 PM
Post by: schreds21 on December 28, 2019, 01:31:08 PM
Try banging pots and pans over her head when you feed her. She'll associate loud noise with good stuff.
Also do you have a trap/skeet club nearby? Take her there on leash and walk around the parking lot with a pocket full of treats to give her when they are shooting.All sound advice. Slam doors, bang pans, any abrupt loud noise that can be done in day to day activities around the house will help desensitize her to anything that resembles gunfire.
My lab pup, Mojo, had zero issues with guns after that.
Post by: ben ji on December 29, 2019, 07:55:20 PM
Post by: ben ji on December 29, 2019, 07:58:01 PM
It snowed about an inch or two overnight and we had much better luck today, each got one before noon. No dogs, just two bros who have no idea what they are doing walking around in some CRP.
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Post by: ben ji on December 29, 2019, 08:04:39 PM
Headed out to chase some pheasants this weekend with my brother and will bring Milo along (and Lady). I've been taking Milo for some nature walks along Indian Creek and some flood plain fields around it trying to get her warmed up as she is still pretty timid in new environments...took her off leash one time and she decided to trot behind a cyclist for about .25 miles while I chased after her.Ive been hunting the windbreak a couple times a day and this morning I missed a golden opportunity. There was some brush up next to the tree line with a road and field on the other side.
I got a 40ft check cord to make sure that does not happen again and will let her run around some fields to try and find some birds but will not be shooting over her. She will stay inside when I am actually trying to shoot birds. Tentative plan is to introduce gunfire from about 50-75 yards away while she is eating to see how she reacts.
My cousin texted me this on Christmas Morning when he was checking the cowsQuoteAbout 30 pheasant flew out of the windbreak behind the house this AM
:Woohoo: :excited: :Carl: :crossfingers: :surprised: :runaway:
Apparently there was a "chute" through the brush to the tree line, birds kept flushing 2 or 3 at a time from the same spot. First 6 or 7 were hens then at the end 3 roosters flushed!
I was expecting more hens and panicked, missed the first two roosters, clipped the third but it took off running when it landed in the field across the street. I tried to follow it but lost it.
Post by: ben ji on December 29, 2019, 08:08:52 PM
Lets say Im hunting the edge of my land, shoot a bird and it lands about 20 yards in the neighbors land, im assuming im good to grab it right?
But what if you clip a bird and comes down in their land and it takes off running, how far can you pursue it?
(Assume its private land, no WIHA and you have not met the people)
Post by: ben ji on December 29, 2019, 08:41:50 PM
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Post by: bucket on December 29, 2019, 09:03:11 PM
Also my cousin got some coyotes recently, saw these hanging in the barn.
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Heard the pelts fetch a fair price. Don't you have to have a license or something?
Post by: ben ji on December 29, 2019, 09:04:58 PM
Its open season 24/7 365 with no limit but only the winter pelts are worth money, go for $50-$100 each.Also my cousin got some coyotes recently, saw these hanging in the barn.
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Heard the pelts fetch a fair price. Don't you have to have a license or something?
Post by: bucket on December 29, 2019, 09:06:07 PM
Its open season 24/7 365 with no limit but only the winter pelts are worth money, go for $50-$100 each.Also my cousin got some coyotes recently, saw these hanging in the barn.
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Heard the pelts fetch a fair price. Don't you have to have a license or something?
I meant a license to sell the pelts. I thought there was a catch.
Post by: schreds21 on December 29, 2019, 11:46:47 PM
Which leads me to another question.You have a legal right/obligation to retrieve wounded game. However, you must still have permission to enter someone else's property. If they will not grant you permission, you can contact your local game warden and they will come out and assist in the matter.
Lets say Im hunting the edge of my land, shoot a bird and it lands about 20 yards in the neighbors land, im assuming im good to grab it right?
But what if you clip a bird and comes down in their land and it takes off running, how far can you pursue it?
(Assume its private land, no WIHA and you have not met the people)
Post by: 8manpick on December 30, 2019, 06:27:21 AM
Which leads me to another question.This may be South Dakota only, so may not be the same, but you can go into someone else’s land to retrieve a downed bird, but cannot take your gun with you. Obviously this doesn’t help much on an active runner without a dog. AFAIK, there isn’t a provision to go hunt someone’s land without permission, just because there is a wounded bird there.
Lets say Im hunting the edge of my land, shoot a bird and it lands about 20 yards in the neighbors land, im assuming im good to grab it right?
But what if you clip a bird and comes down in their land and it takes off running, how far can you pursue it?
(Assume its private land, no WIHA and you have not met the people)
Post by: ben ji on December 30, 2019, 09:24:37 PM
Got another rooster this morning. Spent most of the afternoon walking milo around the windbreak/fields and letting her play with the dead pheasant.
She did find a live pheasant under a tree and flushed it out, no point just went in after it. Thats a start I guess!
Post by: KST8FAN on January 03, 2020, 06:47:42 PM
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Post by: Church Creeper on January 03, 2020, 07:31:56 PM
Post by: Katpappy on January 04, 2020, 11:55:51 AM
The rodents of the plains. Kill as many as possible.
Geese were rare when I was a kid. '60's to early '70's.
Post by: ben ji on January 04, 2020, 08:00:02 PM
Moved over to the Concordia area and the last field I worked I kicked up 4 Hens along the fence line between a corn field and CRP. Milo was behind me sniffing some bones and did not help at all. Sometimes she would run ahead of me and it looked like she might be hunting and then other times (especially in thick CRP) she would just follow right behind me and walk in my path.
Going back to the cat ranch over MLK weekend for one last go this season.
Post by: steve dave on January 04, 2020, 08:33:59 PM
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EDIT: I think the name of the pawn shop may have been Bob's Pawn Shop like he owned both a pawn shop and a giant aqua slide. pretty badass actually.
Post by: steve dave on January 04, 2020, 08:50:17 PM
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Post by: ben ji on January 06, 2020, 08:15:38 AM
I'm going out to blast some pheasants at the cat ranch one last time over MLK weekend but none of my city boy friends wanted to join. I reached out to an old frat bro who lives in council grove and within 24 hours he had rounded up a group with 2 trained dogs to come with.
I told him "Wow, its so much easier to get you to come hunting than my city bro's!" and he said "Country boys shoot crap and drink beer". Then he tried to sell me his old Beretta A303.
Post by: ben ji on January 06, 2020, 08:22:09 AM
There are some possums that keep eating the cat food in the barns and instead of just blasting them he traps them and relocates them a couple of miles down the road.
Post by: steve dave on January 06, 2020, 08:23:39 AM
Post by: 8manpick on January 06, 2020, 09:08:08 AM
Post by: ben ji on January 06, 2020, 10:57:33 AM
you should keep those possums around unless they are rabies ones. actually you should put some frontline+ on them as well.
SD, did you not read that they were eating the cats kibble? The cats have a long winter ahead of them and need all the Kibble they can get.
Side Question - What was your favorite animal to blast when you hunted?
Post by: steve dave on January 06, 2020, 11:04:04 AM
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Post by: ben ji on January 08, 2020, 09:24:20 AM
I've got a bag of Pheasant wings in my freezer and looking for ways to utilize them to make Milo the best bird dog west of the Mississippi. Currently I get her all riled up then we play fetch with them, then I will hide some around the house and say "dead bird" and make her go look for them. Just started doing this a couple of days ago but she's getting pretty good at finding them.
The key is having like 8 different wings to use as they start to thaw out after around 5 minutes.
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Post by: wetwillie on January 08, 2020, 11:34:24 AM
Post by: Katpappy on January 08, 2020, 09:18:12 PM
also as a junior high/high school age person I almost blasted my buds heads off about a dozen times. and they mine. in hindsight who TF lets kids just roam off around the countryside with shitloads of guns and go blast just whatever they feel like? rural kansans, that's who. but, I mean, the proof is in the pudding. we mostly all lived. and we did shoot a shitload of animals (most of the illegal ones were irl by accident because we just start blasting).
This response is a little late, but wanted to comment on this subject. Back when I went to high school, it was common for kids and farmers to have guns hanging on a gun rack across the rear window of their pickups. Most of the time in your home town, we didn't even lock the trucks and even left the windows down in the summer. We just didn't have the nuts that run around these days, as I wouldn't even think about hanging a rifle on the back window rack of my truck. Not only the chance of it getting stolen, but also, a chance of a idiot cop shooting you.
Post by: waks on January 09, 2020, 03:16:24 AM
:jerk: whatever libtardalso as a junior high/high school age person I almost blasted my buds heads off about a dozen times. and they mine. in hindsight who TF lets kids just roam off around the countryside with shitloads of guns and go blast just whatever they feel like? rural kansans, that's who. but, I mean, the proof is in the pudding. we mostly all lived. and we did shoot a shitload of animals (most of the illegal ones were irl by accident because we just start blasting).
This response is a little late, but wanted to comment on this subject. Back when I went to high school, it was common for kids and farmers to have guns hanging on a gun rack across the rear window of their pickups. Most of the time in your home town, we didn't even lock the trucks and even left the windows down in the summer. We just didn't have the nuts that run around these days, as I wouldn't even think about hanging a rifle on the back window rack of my truck. Not only the chance of it getting stolen, but also, a chance of a idiot cop shooting you.
Post by: Katpappy on January 09, 2020, 03:32:39 AM
:jerk: whatever libtardalso as a junior high/high school age person I almost blasted my buds heads off about a dozen times. and they mine. in hindsight who TF lets kids just roam off around the countryside with shitloads of guns and go blast just whatever they feel like? rural kansans, that's who. but, I mean, the proof is in the pudding. we mostly all lived. and we did shoot a shitload of animals (most of the illegal ones were irl by accident because we just start blasting).
This response is a little late, but wanted to comment on this subject. Back when I went to high school, it was common for kids and farmers to have guns hanging on a gun rack across the rear window of their pickups. Most of the time in your home town, we didn't even lock the trucks and even left the windows down in the summer. We just didn't have the nuts that run around these days, as I wouldn't even think about hanging a rifle on the back window rack of my truck. Not only the chance of it getting stolen, but also, a chance of a idiot cop shooting you.
Are you a cop or just a thief?
Post by: ben ji on January 13, 2020, 08:36:36 AM
I'm not a big fan of the getting up super early in the cold but still had a good time and even killed one duck! We should of killed two ducks since they both landed about 40 yards in front of us...We opened up a volley and thought we got both, one went under, came back up sideways then started swimming in circles. We both shot at it one more time but missed and then it flew away. :facepalm:
We didn't have a dog to retrieve the duck so I had to wade out and get it myself like a peasant. Planning on going again in 2 weeks to blast some more of mother nature's offspring.
Post by: sys on January 14, 2020, 01:38:32 AM
every once in awhile I will go on the beretta website and look at the handmade engraved guns that are like $20,000. Other than that don't really have any interest.
this is the weirdest thing that i now know about you.
Post by: sys on January 14, 2020, 01:40:33 AM
Post by: ben ji on January 14, 2020, 10:32:11 AM
killing ducks is some of the funnest animal killing, but they taste like absolute crap, so i had to stop.
I just ate my duck last night and thought it was good :dunno:
Better than pheasant IMO
Post by: wetwillie on January 14, 2020, 11:03:38 AM
Post by: ben ji on January 14, 2020, 11:17:40 AM
Wood ducks are good mallards are ok, the diving ducks are not edible. Blasphemy on the pheasant part.
Give me some good pheasant recipes. So far I've cooked one in a slow cooker with bacon/cream of mushroom and roasted in the oven basting in Olive Oil every 20 minutes. The roasted one was better IMO.
Post by: ben ji on January 14, 2020, 11:29:16 AM
Milo and Lady will be coming along too but I don't plan to bring Milo out in the fields with the trained dogs as she will probably just get in the way. Might do a short hunt with her and the other dogs after we have killed some birds but I think she will spaz out being surrounded by 2 other dogs and 4 bro's.
Assuming she responds well to gunshots again I'm planning on taking her for her first solo hunt sometime on Sunday aka I'll just turn her loose in the CRP and let her run around while I follow her with a shotgun.
Post by: ben ji on January 18, 2020, 10:04:40 AM
It was too far away to be 100% sure but it was a large cat and brownish, took off running through CRP when I was about 150 yards away.
Watched it run across the pasture and over some other fields.
It was in some tall grass so it was hard to see exactly how big it was but it appeared larger than a bobcat.
Post by: steve dave on January 18, 2020, 11:33:00 AM
Post by: ben ji on January 18, 2020, 04:04:24 PM
Got skunked on the cat ranch this morning but found a WIHA honey hole that's 3 miles away. Creeky/grassy draw surrounded by corn fields. Got 2 roosters and missed another. At the end of the draw about 10 birds flushed, had to track a rooster I hit so I couldn't get another.
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Post by: steve dave on January 18, 2020, 07:19:09 PM
Source: 15+ years of listening to farmers claim they saw a mountain lion
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Post by: ben ji on January 18, 2020, 08:23:57 PM
It was either a bobcat or a very large farm catI texted my coyote hunting cousin after I saw it and he said it was probably a bobcat and then later in the day I saw him driving around trying to find it.
Source: 15+ years of listening to farmers claim they saw a mountain lion
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He pulled up to the house as I was outside and our conversation went like this.
Cousin: Wish I could find that bobcat, worth $60 bucks.
Ben ji: Yeah, it took off pretty far. I'm going to hunt the CRP for pheasant again real quick if you want to join.
Cousin: Nah, fur guy is in goodland this weekend. Going to see if I can get a coyote.
Ben ji: You going to call them in from your coyote blind?
Cousin: Nope, quick hunt. Gonna drive around some corn stubble and see if I can pin one down.
I didnt really know what he meant and then he just took off driving around in some corn stubble across the road that didn't belong to us. (I'm Assuming he has permission since he is a local)
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Post by: wetwillie on January 25, 2020, 06:35:26 PM
Post by: ben ji on January 25, 2020, 08:06:16 PM
Perfect day for bird hunting today. Just got some work for Roo on some chukar.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200126/e226b70a88e7576e9f67f5ab8913a07b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200126/6c60f58be9e26c65e0bf0be0dde24b8a.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200126/55c93961c1312b64793c92c73580829e.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200126/6adc381afbcc7ba7a72d0a0f42219056.jpg)Are their wild populations of Chukar in KS or were you hunting a game preserve?
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If there are wild populations where are they at?
I went duck hunting today with a buddy and it sucked, should of done one last day trip chasing pheasant around Salina.
Post by: BW on January 25, 2020, 08:54:21 PM
They were on a controlled area. Buddy had some family in town and they wanted to hunt a bit. The chukar are good for dog work.Perfect day for bird hunting today. Just got some work for Roo on some chukar.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200126/e226b70a88e7576e9f67f5ab8913a07b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200126/6c60f58be9e26c65e0bf0be0dde24b8a.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200126/55c93961c1312b64793c92c73580829e.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200126/6adc381afbcc7ba7a72d0a0f42219056.jpg)Are their wild populations of Chukar in KS or were you hunting a game preserve?
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If there are wild populations where are they at?
I went duck hunting today with a buddy and it sucked, should of done one last day trip chasing pheasant around Salina.
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Post by: ben ji on January 26, 2020, 09:37:33 AM
They were on a controlled area. Buddy had some family in town and they wanted to hunt a bit. The chukar are good for dog work.Perfect day for bird hunting today. Just got some work for Roo on some chukar.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200126/e226b70a88e7576e9f67f5ab8913a07b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200126/6c60f58be9e26c65e0bf0be0dde24b8a.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200126/55c93961c1312b64793c92c73580829e.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200126/6adc381afbcc7ba7a72d0a0f42219056.jpg)Are their wild populations of Chukar in KS or were you hunting a game preserve?
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If there are wild populations where are they at?
I went duck hunting today with a buddy and it sucked, should of done one last day trip chasing pheasant around Salina.
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Gotcha. I was hunting a large piece of WIHA out west last weekend and heard blast after blast a couple of miles away. I was getting super jelly that I hadn't seen any birds and picked the wrong part to hunt.
When I drove around to the other side of the WIHA I saw there was a controlled shooting area adjacent to it and a big group of people hunting it.
I'm assuming that whoever owns the CSA plants birds out there for you to hunt?
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Post by: ben ji on February 08, 2020, 08:29:29 PM
I might tag along with my cousin next winter after pheasant season is over and see what all this fuss is about.
Post by: ben ji on February 14, 2020, 07:12:23 PM
They also board dogs while you are on vacation for $20 a day (according to my buddies co-worker they will work them on birds a little for a couple extra bucks while boarding) so I'm going to try that next month and assuming I get a good vibe I'll send Milo off to learn to be a cold blooded killer.
I called them the other day and had a great conversation with the owner Wayne Baier which included such lines as "Been running behind since I had the flu last month and some idiot shot someone hunting quail" and "I gotta go since I have an interview for a podcast or something with these guys who shot a youtube hunting video a couple years ago, dont now what a podcast is but they said its like a radio show I think"
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Post by: ben ji on March 09, 2020, 01:18:07 PM
She definitely has a nose for the birds and tracked/found 4 birds along with some random flushes while we were walking. Despite being a pointer she acted more like a flusher which I have read is normal when they are first exposed to birds, once they realize they can't catch them they start to point. Its a god dam beautiful thing to see a dog get birdy and follow a scent, Milo tracked 1 pheasant about 50-100 yards through the CRP just zig'n and zag'n. I was not sure what she was following but finally she went over a hill and right when I got to the top of the hill a pheasant busted up with Milo nipping at its feet. She also got nose to nose with a hen before it busted out of the grass.
I'll work her on some more birds this summer after the hatch then will see how this fall goes and re-evaluate training next spring.
Post by: ben ji on March 09, 2020, 01:19:32 PM
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Post by: BW on March 10, 2020, 10:05:11 AM
I took Milo out to the farm this weekend for a final evaluation on whether or not to drop $800 for a month of training and have decided to hold off for now. I basically just let her run around in the CRP while I followed to see how she did.Keeping her on birds is most of the battle. Instincts are there, the fire just needs to be stoked. Spend time at home on control commands (here, stay, whoa, heel) and learning to fetch. Reward correct behavior with treats or just a scratch behind the ears.
She definitely has a nose for the birds and tracked/found 4 birds along with some random flushes while we were walking. Despite being a pointer she acted more like a flusher which I have read is normal when they are first exposed to birds, once they realize they can't catch them they start to point. Its a god dam beautiful thing to see a dog get birdy and follow a scent, Milo tracked 1 pheasant about 50-100 yards through the CRP just zig'n and zag'n. I was not sure what she was following but finally she went over a hill and right when I got to the top of the hill a pheasant busted up with Milo nipping at its feet. She also got nose to nose with a hen before it busted out of the grass.
I'll work her on some more birds this summer after the hatch then will see how this fall goes and re-evaluate training next spring.
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Post by: ben ji on March 11, 2020, 08:29:36 AM
10 months old and already hanging paper.I took Milo out to the farm this weekend for a final evaluation on whether or not to drop $800 for a month of training and have decided to hold off for now. I basically just let her run around in the CRP while I followed to see how she did.Keeping her on birds is most of the battle. Instincts are there, the fire just needs to be stoked. Spend time at home on control commands (here, stay, whoa, heel) and learning to fetch. Reward correct behavior with treats or just a scratch behind the ears.
She definitely has a nose for the birds and tracked/found 4 birds along with some random flushes while we were walking. Despite being a pointer she acted more like a flusher which I have read is normal when they are first exposed to birds, once they realize they can't catch them they start to point. Its a god dam beautiful thing to see a dog get birdy and follow a scent, Milo tracked 1 pheasant about 50-100 yards through the CRP just zig'n and zag'n. I was not sure what she was following but finally she went over a hill and right when I got to the top of the hill a pheasant busted up with Milo nipping at its feet. She also got nose to nose with a hen before it busted out of the grass.
I'll work her on some more birds this summer after the hatch then will see how this fall goes and re-evaluate training next spring.
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Post by: meow meow on March 11, 2020, 08:42:48 AM
Post by: yoga-like_abana on March 11, 2020, 09:14:34 AM
When we used to live out by the lake he found a pack rat killed it and then when we tried to get it away from him he swallowed it whole :Yuck:
Live in town now, sonuva gun caught a squirrel :surprised: obvi ate that too (I swear we feed him)
Well just the other day I discovered that me being a big dumb dumb had left some bird seed in our garage and that we had mice in there. Brought him into the garage and he caught and ate all four mice :love: stud
Post by: meow meow on March 11, 2020, 09:17:05 AM
Post by: ben ji on March 11, 2020, 09:26:32 AM
I'd like to talk about my pooch for a sec. just a freak show but I love him to death.
When we used to live out by the lake he found a pack rat killed it and then when we tried to get it away from him he swallowed it whole :Yuck:
Live in town now, sonuva gun caught a squirrel :surprised: obvi ate that too (I swear we feed him)
Well just the other day I discovered that me being a big dumb dumb had left some bird seed in our garage and that we had mice in there. Brought him into the garage and he caught and ate all four mice :love: stud
That is an impressive kill list, what kind of dog is it? I'm guessing some 20-35lb terrier or maybe a weiner dog?
Post by: waks on March 11, 2020, 10:40:38 AM
I'd like to talk about my pooch for a sec. just a freak show but I love him to death.My dog is the same. He has caught birds, rabbits, squirrels, opossums, pack rats and a neighbor's chicken that made the mistake of flying(?) into our yard. He doesn't eat the opossums or pack rats, just leaves them by the backdoor. He's selfish though and keeps the choice animals for his own dining pleasure.
When we used to live out by the lake he found a pack rat killed it and then when we tried to get it away from him he swallowed it whole :Yuck:
Live in town now, sonuva gun caught a squirrel :surprised: obvi ate that too (I swear we feed him)
Well just the other day I discovered that me being a big dumb dumb had left some bird seed in our garage and that we had mice in there. Brought him into the garage and he caught and ate all four mice :love: stud
Post by: ben ji on March 13, 2020, 02:30:40 PM
I took Milo out to the farm this weekend for a final evaluation on whether or not to drop $800 for a month of training and have decided to hold off for now. I basically just let her run around in the CRP while I followed to see how she did.Keeping her on birds is most of the battle. Instincts are there, the fire just needs to be stoked. Spend time at home on control commands (here, stay, whoa, heel) and learning to fetch. Reward correct behavior with treats or just a scratch behind the ears.
She definitely has a nose for the birds and tracked/found 4 birds along with some random flushes while we were walking. Despite being a pointer she acted more like a flusher which I have read is normal when they are first exposed to birds, once they realize they can't catch them they start to point. Its a god dam beautiful thing to see a dog get birdy and follow a scent, Milo tracked 1 pheasant about 50-100 yards through the CRP just zig'n and zag'n. I was not sure what she was following but finally she went over a hill and right when I got to the top of the hill a pheasant busted up with Milo nipping at its feet. She also got nose to nose with a hen before it busted out of the grass.
I'll work her on some more birds this summer after the hatch then will see how this fall goes and re-evaluate training next spring.
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BW, I'm working from home/farm the next couple of weeks which means Milo is going to worked on plenty of birds. Any drills/training I should do?
Post by: ben ji on March 16, 2020, 08:55:45 PM
Post by: BW on March 16, 2020, 09:00:20 PM
Took Milo out to chase birds this evening, she found 3 herself along with some wild flushes. Well on her way to being the best bird dog west of the Mississippi.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200317/98f1259844528f9ad5b1bfcd14cf24ad.jpg)Exxellent. Can you carry a gun while out there ? Or a pistol with blanks? Help her get used to gunfire.
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Post by: ben ji on March 16, 2020, 09:35:24 PM
1.5 miles to the nearest neighbors so I can do as I please. Sometimes I carry a .22 just in case we run into a badger/skunk/JUVENILE MOUNTAIN LION but haven't shot it. Think I should blast some shotgun shells when the birds flush? (Not aiming for them obviously)Took Milo out to chase birds this evening, she found 3 herself along with some wild flushes. Well on her way to being the best bird dog west of the Mississippi.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200317/98f1259844528f9ad5b1bfcd14cf24ad.jpg)Exxellent. Can you carry a gun while out there ? Or a pistol with blanks? Help her get used to gunfire.
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Milo is not gun shy but I guess it wouldn't hurt. Also tell me how I can help induce her to point instead of flush. Right now she is a flushing pointer but Im just glad she is finding birds.
I've got at least until April before I let the pheasants be so they can sex each other up so any tips are appreciated.
Post by: ben ji on March 16, 2020, 09:37:47 PM
I havent seen any around the house since then, its like they know people are around and stay away. Dam wiley ass birds.
Post by: ben ji on March 16, 2020, 09:39:12 PM
Post by: yoga-like_abana on March 20, 2020, 10:34:10 AM
he's a mix of heeler and something else, sonuvagun got one more mouse yesterday. (I threw away the birdseed this time and swept)I'd like to talk about my pooch for a sec. just a freak show but I love him to death.
When we used to live out by the lake he found a pack rat killed it and then when we tried to get it away from him he swallowed it whole :Yuck:
Live in town now, sonuva gun caught a squirrel :surprised: obvi ate that too (I swear we feed him)
Well just the other day I discovered that me being a big dumb dumb had left some bird seed in our garage and that we had mice in there. Brought him into the garage and he caught and ate all four mice :love: stud
That is an impressive kill list, what kind of dog is it? I'm guessing some 20-35lb terrier or maybe a weiner dog?
Post by: Katpappy on March 20, 2020, 11:30:04 AM
Post by: yoga-like_abana on March 20, 2020, 11:31:27 AM
Post by: Katpappy on March 20, 2020, 11:59:44 AM
Post by: sys on March 20, 2020, 04:06:00 PM
@sys check out that winter wheat!
:kstatriot:
Post by: ben ji on March 21, 2020, 09:46:56 AM
Post by: KST8FAN on April 19, 2020, 09:05:39 PM
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Post by: ben ji on April 20, 2020, 09:00:47 AM
In other news Milo climbed a cedar tree limb and snatched a bird nest that was about 5ft high. She crawl'd to the base of the tree then walked up a limb that started about a foot off the ground.
Milo's estimated kill count so far
Mice - Like 7 or 8
Baby Rabbits - 6
Blackbirds - 2 (they were probably already dead but she brought them back to the house)
Birds Nest - 1 (Eggs had not hatched yet).
Post by: Katpappy on April 20, 2020, 03:06:23 PM
Post by: ben ji on April 20, 2020, 03:11:11 PM
Does she eat any of the animals, or just brings them home for you to admire.
Usually she bring them back to the yard and plays with them until their dead, just brought back a vole/gopher looking thing about 30 minutes go.
Post by: Katpappy on April 20, 2020, 04:04:54 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on April 20, 2020, 04:28:15 PM
Post by: ben ji on April 29, 2020, 09:33:52 PM
Saw a ton of pheasants by the road tonight.
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Post by: ben ji on April 29, 2020, 09:34:58 PM
Post by: ben ji on April 29, 2020, 09:37:12 PM
Post by: Spracne on April 29, 2020, 09:42:36 PM
Post by: wetwillie on April 29, 2020, 09:49:33 PM
Post by: kim carnes on April 29, 2020, 10:13:29 PM
Also lady found a rabbit nest where they hadnt opened their eyes yet and ate 2 like they were pieces of bacon before I stopped her (fed the remaining litter of rabbits to the cats)
U are a sick eff dude
Post by: ben ji on April 29, 2020, 11:31:09 PM
Question about pheasants: Are they an invasive or otherwise destructive threat? Like, is there an ecological excuse for hunting them? Honest Q.What wet willie said. They were all over the
and my dad saw 100+ birds in a single draw back in the early 70's. They are native to china but were introduced to the
in the late 1800's. Their ideal habit is grasslands so they thrived in the early 1900's until the green revolution took over and farmers didn't leave fields fallow and farmed beans/corn fence row to fence row. TL:DR- Modern Agriculture practices in the midwest are not good for pheasants. Thats why the only region they still have huntable populations is the plains states but even that is shrinking.
KC hunters used to be able to go out to Abilene and slaughter tons of pheasants but in the last 20 years the line of decent pheasant populations has shifted to west of Salina.
Post by: ben ji on April 29, 2020, 11:35:28 PM
Post by: mocat on April 29, 2020, 11:56:32 PM
Also lady found a rabbit nest where they hadnt opened their eyes yet and ate 2 like they were pieces of bacon before I stopped her (fed the remaining litter of rabbits to the cats)wat
Post by: sys on April 30, 2020, 04:29:58 AM
@sys check out that winter wheat
looks pretty slow.
Post by: ben ji on April 30, 2020, 08:40:28 AM
Also lady found a rabbit nest where they hadnt opened their eyes yet and ate 2 like they were pieces of bacon before I stopped her (fed the remaining litter of rabbits to the cats)wat
We were cleaning up some weeds and lady found a rabbit nest and started throwing all the baby rabbits around then eating them. I did not want her eating them so I gathered up all the baby rabbits that were strewn all over and put them in the barn for the farm cats to eat.
This happens like once a week where lady or Milo will find some rabbit/mice/gopher den, kill the animal and then we will throw it to the barn cats for them to eat.
Post by: wetwillie on April 30, 2020, 12:25:28 PM
Post by: ben ji on April 30, 2020, 01:51:49 PM
I think people are put off by you causally feeding baby bunnies to your cats. I assume you view it as a mercy killing since they would likely be abandoned by the mother after such an incident.
Their nest was destroyed in the process of removing the weeds so it was either leave them where the dog had scattered them or throw them to the cats. :dunno:
After watching about 5 nests get destroyed over the last couple of weeks you get desensitized to the whole thing but I could see how it could be off putting.
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Post by: sys on April 30, 2020, 02:50:48 PM
Their nest was destroyed in the process of removing the weeds so it was either leave them where the dog had scattered them or throw them to the cats.
if you don't want to kill them, just put them together and then leave them alone. like 90% chance the mother will gather them.
Post by: star seed 7 on April 30, 2020, 03:18:32 PM
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 30, 2020, 04:35:10 PM
you know the story in goonies where chunk feels awful for making everyone puke? great story right.. well this one is not. I had the headphones in one day and was mowing a side of my house and ran over a bunny nest.... I didn't kill any of them but got ones back leg and I could hear it squeal over my music and mower. :frown: before I could figure out what happened they were all able to scatter including lil tripod. hopefully he's limping a good life thoughI think people are put off by you causally feeding baby bunnies to your cats. I assume you view it as a mercy killing since they would likely be abandoned by the mother after such an incident.
Their nest was destroyed in the process of removing the weeds so it was either leave them where the dog had scattered them or throw them to the cats. :dunno:
After watching about 5 nests get destroyed over the last couple of weeks you get desensitized to the whole thing but I could see how it could be off putting.
Post by: chum1 on May 29, 2020, 02:16:05 PM
https://twitter.com/lwoodhouse/status/1266409086976815104
Post by: waks on May 29, 2020, 07:36:23 PM
Post by: Spracne on May 29, 2020, 07:37:23 PM
Cruel? Absolutely. But I bet it smells rough ridin' delicious.
I lol'd
Post by: AST on August 29, 2020, 07:30:24 AM
They had made there way to about 20 yds from the property line and were getting close when the neighbors a half a mile away let there dogs out. I could see orange collars bobbing up and down in the field, hear barking and the next thing you know, the herd is gone...
Will sit around for another hour to see if they come back down the mountain. If not, will sit in the blind this evening when it is 100* out. Will do it all over again tomorrow and Monday if need be.
Post by: wetwillie on August 29, 2020, 08:03:15 AM
Post by: AST on August 29, 2020, 09:29:04 AM
Didn’t realize hunting season opened that early in Texas, but I have heard Axis deer are among the tastiest creatures a person can eat.
There is no season on axis as they are not native. Year round and no limit.
Post by: AST on August 29, 2020, 09:35:06 AM
Post by: kim carnes on August 29, 2020, 05:25:52 PM
Gross
https://twitter.com/lwoodhouse/status/1266409086976815104
Jesus Christ. We are a sick rough ridin' species.
Post by: ben ji on September 12, 2020, 01:05:59 PM
I've never hunted dove before so I just kind of walked around the windbreaks and blasted them as they flew out of trees. Got 6 this morning and will probably kill some more after the katz game.
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Post by: ben ji on September 12, 2020, 01:08:34 PM
Post by: BW on September 12, 2020, 01:16:23 PM
Also I assume shooting them when they are sitting on power lines is a no no? I haven't done it because I don't want one of the pellets to go through a power line and cause an outage or something.A no no.
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Post by: wetwillie on September 12, 2020, 01:21:30 PM
Post by: BW on September 12, 2020, 01:21:59 PM
Around noon yesterday I realized I had no plans over the weekend and decided to head to the cat ranch to try and shoot dove and just screw around.If you can find any water or a patch of wild sunflowers you can post up on a five gallon bucket and blast them as they fly in and out. The ones in the trees might be Euarasians versus the migratory mourning doves . Make sure you have a HIP stamp.
I've never hunted dove before so I just kind of walked around the windbreaks and blasted them as they flew out of trees. Got 6 this morning and will probably kill some more after the katz game.
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Post by: BW on September 12, 2020, 01:23:35 PM
Bullshit it’s a a right of passage in western Kansas dove huntingOh I'm not saying we didn't drive up and down dirt roads after football practice in high school doing so.
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Post by: ben ji on September 12, 2020, 01:32:40 PM
Around noon yesterday I realized I had no plans over the weekend and decided to head to the cat ranch to try and shoot dove and just screw around.If you can find any water or a patch of wild sunflowers you can post up on a five gallon bucket and blast them as they fly in and out. The ones in the trees might be Euarasians versus the migratory mourning doves . Make sure you have a HIP stamp.
I've never hunted dove before so I just kind of walked around the windbreaks and blasted them as they flew out of trees. Got 6 this morning and will probably kill some more after the katz game.
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I was planning on checking out the "Creek" in the pasture this evening so if there is any water I'll hang out for a bit and see if any birds come in. Worst case scenario I'll hang out at the stock tanks by the windmill assuming it's not packed full of cows.
Post by: ben ji on September 12, 2020, 01:41:02 PM
I was really tempted to blast some but it's the power lines that feed the cat ranch and I don't want any of that smoke if I somehow cut our power off.Bullshit it’s a a right of passage in western Kansas dove huntingOh I'm not saying we didn't drive up and down dirt roads after football practice in high school doing so.
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Post by: BW on September 12, 2020, 02:05:42 PM
My 1990 Dakota lost a back window when a buddy's arm went through it when he was in bed and I slammed in the brakes when I spotted some power line doves.I was really tempted to blast some but it's the power lines that feed the cat ranch and I don't want any of that smoke if I somehow cut our power off.Bullshit it’s a a right of passage in western Kansas dove huntingOh I'm not saying we didn't drive up and down dirt roads after football practice in high school doing so.
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Post by: ben ji on September 12, 2020, 04:40:33 PM
As I was reading that story I got the mental image of it happening.My 1990 Dakota lost a back window when a buddy's arm went through it when he was in bed and I slammed in the brakes when I spotted some power line doves.I was really tempted to blast some but it's the power lines that feed the cat ranch and I don't want any of that smoke if I somehow cut our power off.Bullshit it’s a a right of passage in western Kansas dove huntingOh I'm not saying we didn't drive up and down dirt roads after football practice in high school doing so.
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Post by: wetwillie on September 12, 2020, 09:05:18 PM
Post by: ben ji on October 29, 2020, 10:45:20 AM
I'm planning on heading out to the cat ranch in NWKS for a 3 day weekend of blood lust. Will hunt the CRP on the cat ranch and I've also spent way too much time staring at the WIHA map scoping out the public spots around the cat ranch.
http://ksdot.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=a6467b7c4f714053ab63003607674413
Post by: puniraptor on November 01, 2020, 11:23:48 PM
pythons are 25$ per foot in florida! Nutria tails $6 a pop in louisiana
lionfish :lick: :lick: :lick:
20-50 feral hogs :chainsaw:
plus it saves the environment
Post by: star seed 7 on November 02, 2020, 07:38:40 AM
Post by: steve dave on November 02, 2020, 07:43:50 AM
when i move back to america my hobby is going to be invasive species animal killing
pythons are 25$ per foot in florida! Nutria tails $6 a pop in louisiana
lionfish :lick: :lick: :lick:
20-50 feral hogs :chainsaw:
plus it saves the environment
I like this idea. we also apparently have a cat problem around here.
Post by: wetwillie on November 02, 2020, 07:53:59 AM
Post by: puniraptor on November 02, 2020, 02:11:07 PM
Snakeheads?
Post by: Gooch on November 02, 2020, 02:13:58 PM
Any other I.S. bounties out there?I think coyotes in some states.
Snakeheads?
Post by: ben ji on November 02, 2020, 02:47:29 PM
Any other I.S. bounties out there?
Snakeheads?
Maybe train a dog to sniff out murder hornets and start your own Murder Hornet Murdering company?
Post by: wetwillie on November 02, 2020, 03:52:00 PM
Post by: ben ji on November 18, 2020, 08:51:39 AM
I had 11 pheasant flush within 10 yards of me but 10 of those were hens. The only rooster that flushed in range was right next to the farmhouse. I was walking back to the house after hunting and not paying attention then Milo flushed it up right next to the woodpile. It took off vertically about 20ft in the air to clear the tree's in the windbreak (which was extremely impressive) but my only shot at it had the house in the background :frown: :frown:.
Guess that's why they call it HUNTING and not KILLING
Post by: wetwillie on November 18, 2020, 09:22:31 AM
Post by: ben ji on November 20, 2020, 01:01:35 PM
Sounds like milo is turning into a good little bird dog. My lab is going to get her first pheasant hunt in this weekend in Barton County, will be interesting to see how she does.
Milo still doesn't point and I doubt she ever will but she is serviceable as a flusher and gives it 100% most of the time. Are you going with a large group this weekend or just a couple of people? I watched a group of 10+ hunters pushing a field and then boom all the birds fly up, looked like a good time.
Best of luck with weekend with pup.
Post by: wetwillie on November 20, 2020, 01:07:19 PM
Sounds like milo is turning into a good little bird dog. My lab is going to get her first pheasant hunt in this weekend in Barton County, will be interesting to see how she does.
Milo still doesn't point and I doubt she ever will but she is serviceable as a flusher and gives it 100% most of the time. Are you going with a large group this weekend or just a couple of people? I watched a group of 10+ hunters pushing a field and then boom all the birds fly up, looked like a good time.
Best of luck with weekend with pup.
5 guys in the group, hunting some private land for wild birds Saturday and then a planted bird hunt on Sunday. We have two flushing dogs so probably will just do it that way but the walking with the blocker at the end is a good strategy too.
Post by: ben ji on November 27, 2020, 06:46:37 PM
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Post by: WillieWatanabe on November 27, 2020, 06:58:25 PM
Pretty proud moment?
Post by: wetwillie on November 27, 2020, 07:29:48 PM
Post by: bucket on November 27, 2020, 07:38:16 PM
Post by: ben ji on November 27, 2020, 08:32:51 PM
Awesome!
Pretty proud moment?
It was a proud moment, she was walking about 15 yards ahead of me, broke right then started circling back to me when the rooster flushed between us.
She sprinted straight to where the bird landed and played with it for a bit before I got there. As long as she finds the downed birds I'm not going to complain about her not bringing it back to me.
Post by: ben ji on November 27, 2020, 08:34:27 PM
Beautiful bird!
Indeed, I'm always impressed at how beautiful their feathers are up close.
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Post by: wetwillie on November 28, 2020, 09:26:57 AM
Post by: waks on November 28, 2020, 02:58:36 PM
Post by: ben ji on November 28, 2020, 10:24:02 PM
Yesterday I pulled into the cat ranch(no cats anymore :frown:) at 2:45pm. Unloaded real quick and walked the windbreak where I flushed probably 5-10 birds (no good shots due to the tree's and the only ones I could identify were hens). Went across the road to hunt some land I recently got permission to hunt, flushed another 10+ birds, killed a rooster and missed another by 4:30.
Today I hunted the same area's and some other land I had seen birds on before but did not fire my gun once. I even had some cousins join to push the field across the road road from the cat ranch that was loaded with pheasants yesterday but we only saw one hen.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on November 30, 2020, 02:35:23 PM
Not as glamorous as pheasant hunting, but #1s hunter buddy trapping some raccoons at the farm.Raccoons are amazing animals. When I was a kid, I would catch raccoons that were raiding our pet food in live traps and relocate them.
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Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on November 30, 2020, 02:36:14 PM
Milo got her first rooster todayYour dog looks awesome and happy, ben ji.
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Post by: ben ji on November 30, 2020, 06:07:01 PM
Later in the day we were hunting the same field where she got her first rooster and she flushed another rooster that started out maybe 15 yards ahead of me to my left then flew directly across my line of sight but I missed all 3 shots. She looked at me in disgust until I said good girl and gave her some treats.
All and all it was a great time :D
Post by: wetwillie on November 30, 2020, 06:19:05 PM
Post by: ben ji on November 30, 2020, 06:32:09 PM
You ever spook up any quail at the ole cat ranch? I’m finding busting coveys is even more fun than chasing ring necks. We got into some good quail action around Pratt two weeks ago and it was a blast.
Nah, the cat ranch is in Thomas county which is too far west to see any quail.
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Post by: WillieWatanabe on November 30, 2020, 06:37:23 PM
I assumed all cranes were endangered, but I guess i was just thinking about the whooping cranes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandhill_crane
Post by: steve dave on November 30, 2020, 08:50:32 PM
Counterpoint: Meade is fringe bad and we have shitloadsYou ever spook up any quail at the ole cat ranch? I’m finding busting coveys is even more fun than chasing ring necks. We got into some good quail action around Pratt two weeks ago and it was a blast.
Nah, the cat ranch is in Thomas county which is too far west to see any quail.
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Post by: michigancat on November 30, 2020, 08:58:46 PM
Had a fbook friend recently post about hunting sandhill cranes. I was pretty :surprised: until i read more about the legal hunting.My dad had a guy come through asking about hunting cranes on his land or nearby land. He called it "The Ribeye in the Sky"
I assumed all cranes were endangered, but I guess i was just thinking about the whooping cranes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandhill_crane
Post by: wetwillie on November 30, 2020, 09:00:56 PM
Counterpoint: Meade is fringe bad and we have shitloadsYou ever spook up any quail at the ole cat ranch? I’m finding busting coveys is even more fun than chasing ring necks. We got into some good quail action around Pratt two weeks ago and it was a blast.
Nah, the cat ranch is in Thomas county which is too far west to see any quail.
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Sounds awful, if you need to purge them from your lands I know a guy.
Post by: ben ji on November 30, 2020, 11:01:54 PM
Had a fbook friend recently post about hunting sandhill cranes. I was pretty :surprised: until i read more about the legal hunting.My dad had a guy come through asking about hunting cranes on his land or nearby land. He called it "The Ribeye in the Sky"
I assumed all cranes were endangered, but I guess i was just thinking about the whooping cranes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandhill_crane
I actually have the extra certificate you need to hunt sand hill cranes.
I was looking at all the different seasons on the ksoutdoors.com website and it said something about needing to take some test to identify sand hill cranes vs whooping cranes (which are endangered). I clicked on the link and next thing you know I watched a short power point slide, took a 10 question test where they show you pictures of sand hill cranes and whooping cranes and passed with an 8/10.
I dont plan on hunting cranes and couldnt tell you the difference 1 month after taking the test but I guess I could pull some ribeye out of the sky if the opportunity arose.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on December 01, 2020, 09:09:16 AM
Milo is very happy when she gets to run around in a field but unfortunately my shooting is gawd awful. We were hunting a weedy creek/draw in a corn field on sunday when she stopped, started sniffing a giant weed pile then jumped in. As she jumped in 3 roosters flew out coming right at me (maybe 5 yards to my right), scared the crap out of me and after I missed my first shot then the gun jammed when I pumped it :blank:.:thumbs:
Later in the day we were hunting the same field where she got her first rooster and she flushed another rooster that started out maybe 15 yards ahead of me to my left then flew directly across my line of sight but I missed all 3 shots. She looked at me in disgust until I said good girl and gave her some treats.
All and all it was a great time :D
It has been probably 9 years since I tried to hunt pheasants in Kansas. 3 yrs ago I went up to SD with a group but it was so cold all the layers of clothes I had to wear made it impossible to mount the shotgun on my shoulder and my normally terrible shooting was even worse. The guides had these 4WD school buses that they would take our group around to the various plots to hunt. The lodge we stayed at raised these "hybrid flushing dogs" (maybe a cross between a GSP and a lab). They didn't really point birds but would crash into thick cover to flush out pheasants. They did some very long retrieves of wounded birds as well. Very fun to watch "high motor" dogs that are enjoying themselves at work.
Post by: Institutional Control on December 01, 2020, 09:30:51 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 01, 2020, 04:50:14 PM
Milo is very happy when she gets to run around in a field but unfortunately my shooting is gawd awful. We were hunting a weedy creek/draw in a corn field on sunday when she stopped, started sniffing a giant weed pile then jumped in. As she jumped in 3 roosters flew out coming right at me (maybe 5 yards to my right), scared the crap out of me and after I missed my first shot then the gun jammed when I pumped it :blank:.
Later in the day we were hunting the same field where she got her first rooster and she flushed another rooster that started out maybe 15 yards ahead of me to my left then flew directly across my line of sight but I missed all 3 shots. She looked at me in disgust until I said good girl and gave her some treats.
All and all it was a great time :D
BenJi . . . Dax "long time bird hunter" Jones is here to help.
With Roosters it is best to let a field settle for a few days after pushing them. The wiley ringneck pheasant is a quick study. For birds to return quickly, there has to be something in a field that they cannot find elsewhere, and that's pretty rare out in Kansas.
As the season progresses if you're working heavy cover and now that you have a dog, I suggest you work it slowly, particularly if the weather isn't great and the bird really doesn't want to flush if they're burrowed down in the cover. In fact, in pockets that one person and a dog can cover, if you have the time, push back through it.
Always here to help.
Post by: ben ji on December 01, 2020, 05:07:17 PM
Milo is very happy when she gets to run around in a field but unfortunately my shooting is gawd awful. We were hunting a weedy creek/draw in a corn field on sunday when she stopped, started sniffing a giant weed pile then jumped in. As she jumped in 3 roosters flew out coming right at me (maybe 5 yards to my right), scared the crap out of me and after I missed my first shot then the gun jammed when I pumped it :blank:.
Later in the day we were hunting the same field where she got her first rooster and she flushed another rooster that started out maybe 15 yards ahead of me to my left then flew directly across my line of sight but I missed all 3 shots. She looked at me in disgust until I said good girl and gave her some treats.
All and all it was a great time :D
BenJi . . . Dax "long time bird hunter" Jones is here to help.
With Roosters it is best to let a field settle for a few days after pushing them. The wiley ringneck pheasant is a quick study. For birds to return quickly, there has to be something in a field that they cannot find elsewhere, and that's pretty rare out in Kansas.
As the season progresses if you're working heavy cover and now that you have a dog, I suggest you work it slowly, particularly if the weather isn't great and the bird really doesn't want to flush if they're burrowed down in the cover. In fact, in pockets that one person and a dog can cover, if you have the time, push back through it.
Always here to help.
Thanks Dax. I did notice that I was seeing more birds when I walked slowly and stopped for around 30 seconds randomly. Unfortunately I get all revved up and try to cover as much ground as possible. Will make sure I slow down next time and give a fields a rest for a day or so.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 01, 2020, 05:17:07 PM
Milo is very happy when she gets to run around in a field but unfortunately my shooting is gawd awful. We were hunting a weedy creek/draw in a corn field on sunday when she stopped, started sniffing a giant weed pile then jumped in. As she jumped in 3 roosters flew out coming right at me (maybe 5 yards to my right), scared the crap out of me and after I missed my first shot then the gun jammed when I pumped it :blank:.
Later in the day we were hunting the same field where she got her first rooster and she flushed another rooster that started out maybe 15 yards ahead of me to my left then flew directly across my line of sight but I missed all 3 shots. She looked at me in disgust until I said good girl and gave her some treats.
All and all it was a great time :D
BenJi . . . Dax "long time bird hunter" Jones is here to help.
With Roosters it is best to let a field settle for a few days after pushing them. The wiley ringneck pheasant is a quick study. For birds to return quickly, there has to be something in a field that they cannot find elsewhere, and that's pretty rare out in Kansas.
As the season progresses if you're working heavy cover and now that you have a dog, I suggest you work it slowly, particularly if the weather isn't great and the bird really doesn't want to flush if they're burrowed down in the cover. In fact, in pockets that one person and a dog can cover, if you have the time, push back through it.
Always here to help.
Thanks Dax. I did notice that I was seeing more birds when I walked slowly and stopped for around 30 seconds randomly. Unfortunately I get all revved up and try to cover as much ground as possible. Will make sure I slow down next time and give a fields a rest for a day or so.
You'll get it a feel for it, sometimes you have to move fast because the birds are running to the edge of light cover and then flushing. But once the season progresses in heavy cover they're likely going to try and sit and let you pass right on by from my experience. I've seen birds practically getting stomped on repeatedly that still won't flush. If a tree line has row crops on the edge you can sometimes see the birds running in the rows. Also, as the season progresses slamming a car door and making a bunch of noise is a no-no.
Post by: wetwillie on December 01, 2020, 05:18:21 PM
Post by: ben ji on December 01, 2020, 06:06:42 PM
What kind of dogs did you run back in the day Dax?
Dax seems like an english pointer or springer type of guy.
Post by: wetwillie on December 01, 2020, 06:17:29 PM
What kind of dogs did you run back in the day Dax?
Dax seems like an english pointer or springer type of guy.
Sounds right, maybe he will surprise us with a wirehaired pointing Griffon or something.
Post by: sys on December 02, 2020, 12:13:49 AM
Will a fox kill a small dog? My dad has spotted a fox visiting his front porch daily. He told a neighbor about it and the neighbor asked if he could trap it because he said it would kill my dad's shih zu. Is that right? The fox is not very big.
that'd be really weird. foxes are normally scared of dogs.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on December 02, 2020, 09:36:38 AM
The internet says that foxes are generally afraid of even small dogs because they don't recognize them as prey and dogs have hunted foxes for a long time. There may be a risk of foxes bringing diseases to domestic dogs. There is a family of foxes that moved into my neighborhood over the past few years. They can be seen ducking in and out of the storm drains around dawn and dusk. One of the juveniles got killed by a car last spring. :(Will a fox kill a small dog? My dad has spotted a fox visiting his front porch daily. He told a neighbor about it and the neighbor asked if he could trap it because he said it would kill my dad's shih zu. Is that right? The fox is not very big.
that'd be really weird. foxes are normally scared of dogs.
Post by: Institutional Control on December 02, 2020, 09:48:48 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 02, 2020, 10:38:42 AM
What kind of dogs did you run back in the day Dax?
Dax seems like an english pointer or springer type of guy.
I've only had a golden who was a great finder/retriever and while not much of a pointer, he never ran away and he was great for getting in and working around in the heavy stuff while staying in line.
My cousins have Vizsla's who are quite good, and a good friend has had some awesome German Shorthair's.
Post by: wetwillie on December 02, 2020, 10:42:16 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on December 02, 2020, 11:30:02 AM
My dad has a gsp that is almost 2 now. That rough rider has more energy than is even imaginable. He takes it on 5 mile runs every day going 20mph or so in the gator. Dude just absolutely loves running.
Post by: ben ji on December 02, 2020, 05:12:07 PM
They are so beautiful.
My dad has a gsp that is almost 2 now. That rough rider has more energy than is even imaginable. He takes it on 5 mile runs every day going 20mph or so in the gator. Dude just absolutely loves running.
Yeah, Milo is a 1.5 yr old gsp and a nut job terrorist with so much energy. It's great for hunting but the other 95% of the time she is sprinting circles on her racetrack (I call them zoomies) around my garden. She has killed all the grass and her "racetrack" is about an inch lower than the rest of the yard, had to put down mulch over it to prevent more erosion/mud.
GSP's are a great way to stay in shape because if you don't walk them everyday they are unbearable. Thankfully there is a random park down the street that no one ever goes to so I can take here down there once a day to play fetch with her.
Does your dad take his gsp hunting or does he just enjoy nut job dogs?
Post by: star seed 7 on December 03, 2020, 01:08:49 AM
Post by: tdaver on December 03, 2020, 03:34:20 PM
Vizla’s are such good looking dogs, they seem like they are super high energy though.
And total velcro dogs. Follow you room to room, always by your side, and love to cuddle. But if you don’t run them, they will climb on your tables and chew up your couch.
Post by: bucket on December 10, 2020, 07:41:27 AM
@ben ji
Post by: ben ji on December 10, 2020, 05:09:29 PM
https://twitter.com/DJs_2020/status/1336835408295059465Thought about it but I have no idea if he has ever handled a shotgun before and I don't want to get accidentally shot.
@ben ji
Also I still have no idea what I'm doing and don't want to accidentally shoot DJamer.
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Post by: wetwillie on December 13, 2020, 02:21:30 PM
Post by: ben ji on December 13, 2020, 02:22:31 PM
Then this morning my dad found a freshly eaten rooster behind the house and these tracks on the front sidewalk.
Now that they are eating my rooster's it's getting personal.
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Post by: Spracne on December 13, 2020, 03:05:40 PM
But nope, the fur guy came and took those away and now my cousin has a couple more hanging.
Then this morning my dad found a freshly eaten rooster behind the house and these tracks on the front sidewalk.
Now that they are eating my rooster's it's getting personal.
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You need to stick those yote carcasses on spikes all around the property. Should deliver the message.
Post by: sys on December 13, 2020, 03:25:21 PM
Post by: ben ji on December 13, 2020, 04:19:14 PM
poor 'yotes.Those yotes knew lil lil was at the farm and tracked her scent back to the front door.
Do you want lil lil to get eaten?
Post by: sys on December 13, 2020, 05:10:03 PM
Post by: ben ji on December 13, 2020, 06:51:00 PM
i thought she already was eaten, tbh.
Nah, she lives in KC most of the time but my dad takes her out there when he goes so she can roam the old stomping grounds.
Post by: ben ji on December 13, 2020, 09:10:53 PM
But nope, the fur guy came and took those away and now my cousin has a couple more hanging.
Then this morning my dad found a freshly eaten rooster behind the house and these tracks on the front sidewalk.
Now that they are eating my rooster's it's getting personal.
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I texted that picture to my coyote hunting cousin and he said "Nah, that was a dog. Coyotes wouldn't get that close to the house".
Sure enough my dad checked his trail cams tonight and found a dog on there that was checking the place out around 330am last night.
Post by: ben ji on December 13, 2020, 09:35:08 PM
Post by: bucket on December 13, 2020, 09:39:00 PM
I doubt the dog killed a rooster either now. My guess is the dog found the head/feathers of the rooster I killed a couple of weeks ago and threw in the windbreak behind the house after I had cleaned it.
Why wouldn't a dog kill a rooster? Also, if there was anything left of it then it was most likely a dog.
Post by: ben ji on December 13, 2020, 10:01:16 PM
I doubt the dog killed a rooster either now. My guess is the dog found the head/feathers of the rooster I killed a couple of weeks ago and threw in the windbreak behind the house after I had cleaned it.
Why wouldn't a dog kill a rooster? Also, if there was anything left of it then it was most likely a dog.
Guess its possible but doubtful in my limited farm/hunting experience. I'm having dinner with the parents tomorrow so I'll ask where the rooster kill was to see if it was where I dumped the leftovers.
Post by: ben ji on December 25, 2020, 08:20:17 PM
Was driving out to the cat ranch and decided to hunt some WIHA near Wakeeny on the way. We were walking through some shin high CRP and Milo stopped and started smelling some grass for a couple of seconds. I was standing right next to her and didn't see any thing then BOOM, a rooster bolts out of the grass and tries to fly unsuccessfully then takes off running.
Milo chased it around the field as it kept trying to fly before she finally pinned it down. Probably only lasted about 20 seconds but felt like forever as I was just standing there trying to figure out what the hell to do. I couldn't shoot it since Milo was right next to it so I just had to watch them run around like tom and jerry.
I inspected the bird after it was dead and it did not look like it had been shot but one of it's wings was broken.
I haven't even shot my gun yet and I already have a bird in the bag :gocho:
Post by: ben ji on December 26, 2020, 07:30:57 PM
It's her first year hunting so I'll cut her some slack, great times 10/10
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Post by: KST8FAN on December 26, 2020, 09:18:19 PM
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Post by: ben ji on December 26, 2020, 11:21:43 PM
Clothes lines on the farm remind me of wind blown jeans and overalls. So stiff you could stand them in the corner.
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:lol:
Sometimes my dad will hang his clothes out there....I asked him why since we have a dryer in the basement....he said it was to save on electricity costs...which is like .50 a load at most? Whatever, live your best life.
Works great as a pheasant hanger since there are all sorts of hooks/etc on there. Hopefully I can fill every crevice with a pheasant before I leave on Wednesday...Rumor has it a snow storm is rolling in on mon/tue so things are looking good.
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Post by: wetwillie on December 28, 2020, 08:25:23 PM
Post by: KST8FAN on December 28, 2020, 08:34:14 PM
Very nice, is that field hunting on wheat?Reclaimed quarry ground with several large ponds.
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Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on December 29, 2020, 09:58:08 AM
Clothes lines on the farm remind me of wind blown jeans and overalls. So stiff you could stand them in the corner.Jeans and overalls from the clothesline are the best.
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Post by: ben ji on January 14, 2021, 12:19:26 AM
So Milo and I got 3 birds the first 2 days...then a snow storm rolled in. GREAT!
So it snows about 2 inches out in NW Kansas, not many birds this year but with the snow you can follow their tracks! I'm hunting some CRP next to a corn field and see some tracks going into the CRP so I follow them about 30 yards zigging and zagging in the CRP while Milo is doing her own thing...Then I lose the tracks.
I walk back a bit and follow the tracks until they end at the same spot...HMMM, where is this bird....I sit there for about 30 seconds trying to find more tracks when BOOM, MOTHER F'N ROOSTER FLIES UP RIGHT AT MY FACE. I literally could of kicked the dam bird if I knew where it was.
Anyways I missed the first shot because I was as flustered as Doc Sadler recruiting at an AAU tournament. By the time I was ready to make my second shot the bird was flying flat across the gulley and Milo was in hot pursuit and I didn't feel like peppering her.
Whatever, I'm sure I'll find some more pheasant tracks in the snow!
Post by: ben ji on January 14, 2021, 12:37:30 AM
I tracked them for a bit then lost them...going by my previous experience I figured they were hunkered down in the CRP. I called my trusty bird dog Milo over and she made a pass but nothing happened...Then BOOM
Three hens flush right from my face while I'm standing there. Dam birds are pretty stealthy!
To make things worse when I was walking back Ice started falling off the power lines so I had to constantly keep Milo out of the CRP so she didn't get impaled by an icicle.
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Post by: ben ji on January 14, 2021, 01:12:25 AM
Before I get to the next part just let me say that I hunt the "HOMESTEAD/Windbreak" area of the cat ranch a couple of times a day. Usually once in the morning and again around lunch then around sunset...didnt see one bird in 3 days.
So I'm bare handed in 30 degree weather pulling guts out of some dead pheasants when I hear some cackles off in the distance near the cattle pens...WTF, LETS GET SOME MORE PHEASANTS!
My hands are freezing but I know I can get some at least 1 more rooster so I grab my shotgun out of the back of my vehicle and start heading that direction....
Post by: ben ji on January 14, 2021, 01:31:40 AM
I pulled the trigger and heard a loud CLICK! Pumped it again and CLICK!
Yup, there were no shells in the shotgun.
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 29, 2021, 09:13:58 PM
Hand to the Flying Spaghetti Monster, I was hunting in NE Kansas once (when they still had roosters, WTH happened, but I digress). A coyote ran ahead of me on a fence line and flushed a rooster who flew back into me.
Head on a winter rooster has lots of armor, I shot him, and I swear I just stunned him, had to run him down.
Post by: ben ji on January 29, 2021, 09:42:06 PM
You're doing good Ben Ji, lone wolf hunting can be some of the most productive.
Hand to the Flying Spaghetti Monster, I was hunting in NE Kansas once (when they still had roosters, WTH happened, but I digress). A coyote ran ahead of me on a fence line and flushed a rooster who flew back into me.
Head on a winter rooster has lots of armor, I shot him, and I swear I just stunned him, had to run him down.
I've flushed a couple of coyotes but never had a coyote flush a bird for me. You must be one with nature.
And yes, both of these roosters did not go down easy. I hit the first one and it did a little wing bow/tip so I know I hit it but it kept flying...then it did the death climb where it flew straight up and dropped straight down as dead as our current bball program. I was looking for it about 50 yards short of where it actually was but Milo found it.
Second one I hit landed in a corn field and took off running between the rows. At first I was like "Gosh Darnitt" but then I remembered I had my trusty bird dog Milo and she ran that rooster down quicker than John Currie checking trash cans at Dillons. It was DOA when I got there.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 29, 2021, 09:56:38 PM
Post by: ben ji on October 22, 2021, 10:22:50 PM
Nebraska pheasant season opens next weekend so I'm planning to head out to the cat ranch then drive an hour north into bug eater land and kill some of their birds.
Can't wait until the 14th when the KS season opens. Should have plenty of birds on the cat ranch since no cattle have grazed the pastures and we grew nothing but Milo. Also its probably good for the pheasant population that the coyotes ate all 15 barn cats that were hanging out last year.
Post by: wetwillie on October 23, 2021, 05:33:08 AM
Post by: ben ji on October 23, 2021, 10:51:41 AM
Missouri upland youth opener is next weekend, planning on hitting that with my pooch and son. Trying to pull off 5 straight weekends of bird hunting, should be fun.Quail or pheasant? NW Missouri is the only part where I've heard they have pheasants.
Good luck with the 5 straight weekends.
Post by: wetwillie on October 23, 2021, 03:26:08 PM
Missouri upland youth opener is next weekend, planning on hitting that with my pooch and son. Trying to pull off 5 straight weekends of bird hunting, should be fun.Quail or pheasant? NW Missouri is the only part where I've heard they have pheasants.
Good luck with the 5 straight weekends.
Yes NW Missouri, in Harrison county. The last two hunts of the 5 week stretch will be on pen raised birds so I’m kind of cheating :)
Post by: Katpappy on October 23, 2021, 06:19:18 PM
Who else is getting all jacked up to kill some animals this fall?
Nebraska pheasant season opens next weekend so I'm planning to head out to the cat ranch then drive an hour north into bug eater land and kill some of their birds.
Can't wait until the 14th when the KS season opens. Should have plenty of birds on the cat ranch since no cattle have grazed the pastures and we grew nothing but Milo. Also its probably good for the pheasant population that the coyotes ate all 15 barn cats that were hanging out last year.
What are the license requirements and do they have walk in hunting?
Post by: ben ji on October 24, 2021, 05:00:54 PM
I bought a 2 day license for $100 (includes the habit stamp). They have a similar program to WIHA where it's public access to private farms etc. I've only looked in SW Nebraska but they have alot of land to hunt.Who else is getting all jacked up to kill some animals this fall?
Nebraska pheasant season opens next weekend so I'm planning to head out to the cat ranch then drive an hour north into bug eater land and kill some of their birds.
Can't wait until the 14th when the KS season opens. Should have plenty of birds on the cat ranch since no cattle have grazed the pastures and we grew nothing but Milo. Also its probably good for the pheasant population that the coyotes ate all 15 barn cats that were hanging out last year.
What are the license requirements and do they have walk in hunting?
https://outdoornebraska.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=71a515acd7f64a5d8245ec97eb96d976
Post by: Katpappy on October 24, 2021, 09:37:34 PM
I bought a 2 day license for $100 (includes the habit stamp). They have a similar program to WIHA where it's public access to private farms etc. I've only looked in SW Nebraska but they have alot of land to hunt.Who else is getting all jacked up to kill some animals this fall?
Nebraska pheasant season opens next weekend so I'm planning to head out to the cat ranch then drive an hour north into bug eater land and kill some of their birds.
Can't wait until the 14th when the KS season opens. Should have plenty of birds on the cat ranch since no cattle have grazed the pastures and we grew nothing but Milo. Also its probably good for the pheasant population that the coyotes ate all 15 barn cats that were hanging out last year.
What are the license requirements and do they have walk in hunting?
https://outdoornebraska.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=71a515acd7f64a5d8245ec97eb96d976
Ben, are you going straight north of Colby? Looks great from Swanson Reservoir, east to McCook and north to HWY 80. Happy hunting. The dogs will have a blast. Do you have both of them trained for pointing birds?
Post by: 8manpick on October 25, 2021, 10:22:06 AM
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Post by: star seed 7 on October 25, 2021, 10:28:43 AM
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Post by: wetwillie on October 25, 2021, 11:15:27 AM
Post by: ben ji on October 25, 2021, 12:25:47 PM
The tuckered out puppies :D
Yeah, those pups look like they spent all day pounding the rock.
Great pics 8man, looks like you guys got into some birds.
Post by: ben ji on October 25, 2021, 12:29:06 PM
I bought a 2 day license for $100 (includes the habit stamp). They have a similar program to WIHA where it's public access to private farms etc. I've only looked in SW Nebraska but they have alot of land to hunt.Who else is getting all jacked up to kill some animals this fall?
Nebraska pheasant season opens next weekend so I'm planning to head out to the cat ranch then drive an hour north into bug eater land and kill some of their birds.
Can't wait until the 14th when the KS season opens. Should have plenty of birds on the cat ranch since no cattle have grazed the pastures and we grew nothing but Milo. Also its probably good for the pheasant population that the coyotes ate all 15 barn cats that were hanging out last year.
What are the license requirements and do they have walk in hunting?
https://outdoornebraska.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=71a515acd7f64a5d8245ec97eb96d976
Ben, are you going straight north of Colby? Looks great from Swanson Reservoir, east to McCook and north to HWY 80. Happy hunting. The dogs will have a blast. Do you have both of them trained for pointing birds?
Yup, I'm planning to hunt between the reservoir and McCook. I like how the NE atlas shows what WIHA land is CRP etc, the KS one does not.
Lady is still gun shy and I've given up on her being a hunting dog so she will be staying at the farm house while Milo and I ravage the state of NE.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on October 25, 2021, 12:44:10 PM
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Post by: ben ji on October 30, 2021, 07:49:40 PM
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Post by: Spracne on October 30, 2021, 07:51:59 PM
Post by: ben ji on October 30, 2021, 07:57:31 PM
The feathering on that guy is beautiful. Kind of sad you killed him.
They are beautiful birds up close, does not stop me from wanting to kill them.
Post by: wetwillie on October 30, 2021, 07:58:36 PM
Post by: ben ji on October 30, 2021, 08:09:13 PM
Milo was 10 yards in front of me and had no idea where the bird landed so I made a beeline to where I thought the bird had landed. When I got there I took off my favorite/lucky hunting hat and hung it on a large desiccated sunflower stalk to mark the spot and started looking for the bird. 10 minutes later I coudn't find it then I realized I couldnt find my my hat either since the wind had blown it off the stalk. Spent about 30 minutes looking for my hat and the bird before admitting defeat.
Sucker must of took off running. :frown:
Post by: ben ji on October 30, 2021, 08:14:56 PM
Nice Rooster Benji. My pooch found 4 today and a covey of quail but none of them died :cry:
I am staying at the cat ranch and took the dogs for a walk around sunrise/sunset and saw more pheasants here than I did in my 6 hour trek into bug eater land. Without even trying I flushed 5 roosters and a couple of hens from around the cat ranch.
Since no cattle have grazed in the pens/part of the pasture its all overgrown with weeds and they hang out in there while eating the milo from the fields.
I'm pretty pumped for 2 weeks from now.
Post by: ben ji on October 30, 2021, 08:16:05 PM
Nice Rooster Benji. My pooch found 4 today and a covey of quail but none of them died :cry:
Also are you saying that your son is a terrible shot?!? You have to build them up
Post by: Spracne on October 30, 2021, 08:25:51 PM
....BOOM. The #4 shot I had chambered reached out and sent that male genitals tumbling. Probably the best shot I've ever made in my life and I was freaking JACKED.
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Post by: wetwillie on October 30, 2021, 08:28:52 PM
Nice Rooster Benji. My pooch found 4 today and a covey of quail but none of them died :cry:
Also are you saying that your son is a terrible shot?!? You have to build them up
Son is actually a great shot, but he was hilariously slow walking today in some tough crp cover. As fun as the roosters are, I can’t beat the rush of 20 quail spraying out in front of you like a cheetah on cocaine. Dog got some good work in so mission accomplished.
Post by: ben ji on November 13, 2021, 07:35:09 PM
There is a very primal satisfaction you achieve when you walk through a field with a dog under your control and it makes birds fly up so you can shoot them.
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Post by: Katpappy on November 13, 2021, 08:32:43 PM
Got 3 cocks today, 1 before the Kstate game and 2 after.
There is a very primal satisfaction you achieve when you walk through a field with a dog under your control and it makes birds fly up so you can shoot them.
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Nice group of cocks. Did you use the golf cart to hunt?
Post by: ben ji on November 13, 2021, 08:48:30 PM
No, it's currently inoperable and parked in front of the garage. If it was operable I would definitely use it to flush some birds.Got 3 cocks today, 1 before the Kstate game and 2 after.
There is a very primal satisfaction you achieve when you walk through a field with a dog under your control and it makes birds fly up so you can shoot them.
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Nice group of cocks. Did you use the golf cart to hunt?
Post by: sys on November 13, 2021, 10:14:27 PM
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Post by: ben ji on November 15, 2021, 08:22:46 PM
As I was pulling into my driveway tonight I remembered that I left the cooler sitting in the middle of the kitchen out at the cat ranch....So that should be a fun cooler to open in 2 weeks when I go kill more cocks.
Post by: steve dave on November 15, 2021, 08:36:01 PM
Post by: ben ji on November 15, 2021, 08:42:51 PM
Hey, good news, nobody has ever eaten that disgusting crap in their lives and enjoyed it. So you’re safe
I only eat it because its fun to kill. Now that I'm not eating the bird I feel like I was just killing for the kicks, I might as well go shoot a giraffe or something now. :frown:
Post by: sys on November 15, 2021, 10:46:06 PM
Post by: Katpappy on November 15, 2021, 11:25:25 PM
Post by: Spracne on November 15, 2021, 11:33:07 PM
Ben, does anyone like your dad, brother, or your uncle going out to the farm tomorrow? Maybe you could let them know you left a half dozen cocks for their thanksgiving day pleasure.
I say let the pussies have the gross cocks.
Post by: Katpappy on November 15, 2021, 11:39:23 PM
Ben, does anyone like your dad, brother, or your uncle going out to the farm tomorrow? Maybe you could let them know you left a half dozen cocks for their thanksgiving day pleasure.
I say let the pussies have the gross cocks.
Sound like you know some pussies aren't to particular when it comes to nasty cocks.
Post by: ben ji on November 16, 2021, 10:19:51 PM
Ben, does anyone like your dad, brother, or your uncle going out to the farm tomorrow? Maybe you could let them know you left a half dozen cocks for their thanksgiving day pleasure.
Yeah, not sure why I didn't think of this last night. My cousin is gonna drop by the cat ranch and put the bag o breasts in the freezer tomorrow morning.
I told him he could have them if he wanted but he said "I will eat my beef but thanks glad you found some.. run several through swather 1st cutting of alfalfa felt really bad"
Post by: Katpappy on November 17, 2021, 03:42:10 AM
Ben, does anyone like your dad, brother, or your uncle going out to the farm tomorrow? Maybe you could let them know you left a half dozen cocks for their thanksgiving day pleasure.
Yeah, not sure why I didn't think of this last night. My cousin is gonna drop by the cat ranch and put the bag o breasts in the freezer tomorrow morning.
I told him he could have them if he wanted but he said "I will eat my beef but thanks glad you found some.. run several through swather 1st cutting of alfalfa felt really bad"
That's nice thing their npt going to waste. Sound like the area has pretty good supply of peasants. Good luck next time your out that way.
Post by: ben ji on December 28, 2021, 02:06:02 PM
I'M TOTALLY DISABLED AND WILL NOT BE TRAPPING OR HUNTING FURBEARERS. I ONLY BUY THE LICENSE INCASE PREDATORS ARE ON MY PROPERTY DOING DAMAGE
I'LL BE 78 DURING NEXT SEASON SO I DOUBT IF I SKIN ANY ESPECIALLY WITH THE LOW PRICES. I DIDN'T SKIN ANY LAST SEASON, THE ONLY ONES I SHOT OR TRAPPED WERE IN MY CAT'S FOOD OR CORN I PUT OUT FOR DEER & TURKEYS. I USED DOG PROOF TRAPS.. ( MY ONLY EMAIL IS MY CELL PHONE HARD TO DO SURVEYS ON)
I'M 69 YEARS OLD & STILL HAVE A COUPLE OF DOGS I HAVE HAD WITH KNEES REPLACED SO I DON'T WALK AS MUCH ANYMORE. MY HUNTING PARNTER IS (name withheld). HE ALSO DOES A LOT OF TRAPPING, I DON'T DO ANY TRAPPING. (not really sure how good this data is and what is his and his buddies?)
I'M GETTING TO OLD TO TRAP HAVING TO CHECK TRAPS EVER DAY NO MATTER THE WEATHER. SO I HAVE SWITCHED TO CALLING IN THE PAST I CALL LOTS OF COON AND SEVERAL CATS & COYOTES SO NOW I CAN GO WHEN I FEEL RIGHT. I REALLY ENJOY THE RIGHT TO DO SO AND WILL CONTINEUW WITH CALLING WHICH I LOVE TO DO. BYE 79 YEARS OLD, SEE YOU NEXT YEAR
IT DOES NOT WORK THE LINK, TRIED EVERY YEAR I TRAPPED
It is important to inform local authorities on trapping law. Most police officers think it is illegal when it is perfectly fine. I have been shook down quite a few times for no reason
Lots of Coons. Way too many. Saw numerous different Bobcats this year. Did not trap or shoot at any. Actually saw a bobcat kill a squirrel and eat it during archery season. Then he set down caught another one and buried it. Very cool
My activity this year was adversely affected by coronavirus
NEED SOME TYPE OF COYOTE CONTROL IN KS. I RUN 300 HEAD GOATS
OPEN WIHA FOR TRAPPING COYOTES AND CAN I GET NOTIFIED IF YOU DO?
Shoot coons at night with a shotgun
THERE IS NO MARKET FOR RACOON FUR - MARKET CLOSED.. THANKS TO PETA
TRAPPED FOR 68 YEARS, NOW I HAVE TO QUIT. I WAS TERRIBLE SICK & IN THE HOSPITAL FOR ALOT OF THE SEASON
WOULD IT BE A GOOD IDEA TO SHOOT ONE COON A WEEK DURING RUNNING SEASON? BECAUSE I TRAIN COONHOUNDS DURING THE SUMMER! THANX
I HEAR PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO KILL RACCOON YEAR AROUND. DO NOT LET THEM, KILL 1 FEMALE YOU COULD CALL 6 IN ONE SHOT
DO NOT LIKE THE IDEA OF COYOTE HUNTING AFTER DARK! OPENS THE DOOR FOR POACHING. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO!
Heart problems , so I did not get to go out much !!!
I JUST ENJOY HUNTING THANKS
I JUST TRAP ON MY OWN GROUND. I HAVE 160 ACRES
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on December 28, 2021, 03:56:26 PM
I stopped hunting deer because I think field dressing deer is kind of gross but at least the carcass and guts are warm.
Post by: steve dave on December 28, 2021, 04:47:17 PM
Post by: KST8FAN on December 28, 2021, 08:00:19 PM
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Post by: wetwillie on December 28, 2021, 08:08:20 PM
Post by: ben ji on December 28, 2021, 09:12:08 PM
Quarry ponds yielding a good harvest for our hunters.
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Nice! Do you lease those ponds out to waterfowl hunters? If not I am willing to trade you some access to some average pheasant hunting ground near colby in exchange for the opportunity to blast some ducks and geese in the flint hills.
Post by: ben ji on December 28, 2021, 09:25:26 PM
If any gE'rs are within a day trip of colby and want to blast some birds I will be out there Jan 8-12th ish.
I'm also going out this weekend but will probably spend as much time watching bowl games as I spend hunting.
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Post by: ben ji on January 25, 2022, 09:53:21 PM
You're doing good Ben Ji, lone wolf hunting can be some of the most productive.
Hand to the Flying Spaghetti Monster, I was hunting in NE Kansas once (when they still had roosters, WTH happened, but I digress). A coyote ran ahead of me on a fence line and flushed a rooster who flew back into me.
Head on a winter rooster has lots of armor, I shot him, and I swear I just stunned him, had to run him down.
Done hunting for the season and ready to share some stories...I had a similar experience to this but it was with one of the new barn cats.
I was hunting in the junk yard area of the farm with Milo, we turned a corner and ended up about 20 yards away from one of the barn cats. The cat saw us and booked it straight into a junk pile overgrown with weeds and sure enough a pheasant flew out of the junk pile...unfortunately it was a hen.
Post by: wetwillie on January 25, 2022, 09:59:12 PM
Post by: ben ji on January 25, 2022, 10:06:04 PM
The birds always go eat in the corn field then hide in the draw when you show up and I usually get at least 1 bird and have seen 10+ birds there on occasions. I put my buddy in prime position between the WIHA and the private land then told him to be ready. I pushed the birds towards him then BOOM, a couple of birds flushed and he got all jacked up on Pheasant adrenaline and missed 2 shots....Unfortunately for him he decided to bring his grandpa's old double barreled shotgun (for nostalgia) instead of his auto Benelli.
Anyways after the first 5 birds flushed he was trying to reload as about 25ish other birds flew directly over his head and into the private CRP right behind him. I've only been pheasant hunting for 3 years but that was easily the most birds I've ever seen flush from one area at a time.
We went back the next day and didn't see one bird. :ROFL:
Post by: ben ji on January 25, 2022, 10:09:24 PM
You ever get the itch to go to South Dakota and hunt the Ringnecks? My brother went last year and had a blast.
I have a buddy who goes up there every year with his dad so I might tag along at some point but since the cat ranch has a house on it and plenty of area around it to hunt its just easier to go out to western KS.
Post by: ben ji on January 25, 2022, 10:25:23 PM
There is also nothing as exhilarating as when your bird dogs locks onto a scent of a bird who was running and tracks it through some grass, just all jacked up on pheasant scent swerving all over, then eventually finds it and BOOM. The bird flies up, you blast it out of the air and the dog goes and finds it for you again.
Milo will also hunt for like 5 hours straight running 3 times as far as you walked and still have energy to burn playing with lady when she gets back to the farm house. I don't know how she does it.
Post by: ben ji on January 25, 2022, 10:34:53 PM
Multiple times this year I would stop around some thick cover and just listen(assuming the wind wasnt too strong) and sure enough after a while you could hear some pheasants rustling around in the weeds/grass and eventually they would bust out.
My last hunt of the year I was walking a CRP field and figured there were some birds in this large weed/grass patch on the edge of a pasture. I walked around it but didnt see anything and Milo was pretty neutral, I had to pee and as I was finishing up 2 roosters flew out of the thick cover and I knocked one down mid zip. :cool:
Post by: wetwillie on January 25, 2022, 11:24:21 PM
As for Milo, the GSP mutt I picked up from the pound 2 year ago, she is turning into a pretty decent bird dog. She shows absolutely no ability to point but she will jump in the nastiest weed pile you have ever seen with a simple "Go on" command while you point where she should go. I knocked down a couple of birds from this command over the last couple of months.
There is also nothing as exhilarating as when your bird dogs locks onto a scent of a bird who was running and tracks it through some grass, just all jacked up on pheasant scent swerving all over, then eventually finds it and BOOM. The bird flies up, you blast it out of the air and the dog goes and finds it for you again.
Milo will also hunt for like 5 hours straight running 3 times as far as you walked and still have energy to burn playing with lady when she gets back to the farm house. I don't know how she does it.
I really want a GSP but I have no idea how I would get it enough activity during the week and in the off-season. Do you just let Milo and Lady chase each other in the yard all day?
Post by: ben ji on January 26, 2022, 04:34:19 PM
Pretty much, they hangout in the backyard when I'm at work.As for Milo, the GSP mutt I picked up from the pound 2 year ago, she is turning into a pretty decent bird dog. She shows absolutely no ability to point but she will jump in the nastiest weed pile you have ever seen with a simple "Go on" command while you point where she should go. I knocked down a couple of birds from this command over the last couple of months.
There is also nothing as exhilarating as when your bird dogs locks onto a scent of a bird who was running and tracks it through some grass, just all jacked up on pheasant scent swerving all over, then eventually finds it and BOOM. The bird flies up, you blast it out of the air and the dog goes and finds it for you again.
Milo will also hunt for like 5 hours straight running 3 times as far as you walked and still have energy to burn playing with lady when she gets back to the farm house. I don't know how she does it.
I really want a GSP but I have no idea how I would get it enough activity during the week and in the off-season. Do you just let Milo and Lady chase each other in the yard all day?
Milo has killed half the grass in my backyard since she sprints around in circles then jams on the brakes and goes the other way.
Post by: ben ji on February 06, 2022, 12:54:22 AM
"A flutter of feathers, shotgun to shoulder I Thought of the fourth of July, she'll be home on the fourth of July. Bet we dance on the fourth of July."
https://youtu.be/xsL6Zof7WyE
Post by: kim carnes on February 17, 2022, 06:17:08 PM
Good job idiots
Post by: Spracne on February 17, 2022, 06:44:16 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/nearly-half-bald-golden-eagles-190100648.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/nearly-half-bald-golden-eagles-190100648.html)
Good job idiots
"This is it. This is rock bottom. This is what rock bottom looks like, Charlie ...."
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Post by: RickRampus on February 17, 2022, 06:47:20 PM
I'm sure I have shared this before but this is an amazing story/song with a bird hunting theme.
"A flutter of feathers, shotgun to shoulder I Thought of the fourth of July, she'll be home on the fourth of July. Bet we dance on the fourth of July."
https://youtu.be/xsL6Zof7WyE
this song did not help my want for a Belgium Auto-5
Post by: slackcat on February 17, 2022, 08:00:57 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/nearly-half-bald-golden-eagles-190100648.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/nearly-half-bald-golden-eagles-190100648.html)
Good job idiots
"This is it. This is rock bottom. This is what rock bottom looks like, Charlie ...."
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:ROFL:
Post by: ben ji on March 21, 2022, 08:24:01 PM
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Lady 1 "Oh my gosh that dog is so cute! Is she a bird dog?!?"It was adorable
ben ji "Yup, German Shorthaired Pointer"
Lady 2 "Well she is just adorable, I hope she gets you lots of ducks this year!"
ben ji "Yeah....me too...."
Post by: Katpappy on March 22, 2022, 01:54:12 AM
I was walking Milo around the neighborhood the other day and there were 3 60 ish yr old women on a front porch drinking wine.QuoteLady 1 "Oh my gosh that dog is so cute! Is she a bird dog?!?"It was adorable
ben ji "Yup, German Shorthaired Pointer"
Lady 2 "Well she is just adorable, I hope she gets you lots of ducks this year!"
ben ji "Yeah....me too...."
Careful Ben Ji, sounds like cougars on the prowl.
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Post by: schreds21 on March 22, 2022, 04:24:53 PM
Post by: wetwillie on March 22, 2022, 05:46:20 PM
Does anyone want to kill a cardinal?
How much we talking about here?
Post by: bucket on March 22, 2022, 05:50:30 PM
Does anyone want to kill a cardinal?
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Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 22, 2022, 07:01:49 PM
See the amazing animals thread. eff this little bastard.Does anyone want to kill a cardinal?
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Post by: ben ji on March 22, 2022, 11:20:34 PM
Does anyone want to kill a cardinal?
This is all on you Stupid Fitz, you are going to have to buy a bb bun or a slingshot and take this cardinal out yourself.
T&P's
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 23, 2022, 11:12:19 AM
Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 23, 2022, 12:55:42 PM
Cardinals are probably the dumbest sentient beings on earth. I'm sure you can figure out a way to get it to kill itself.
Its been ramming its body into my kitchen window for hours each day for over a month. I'm not sure it can be killed.
Post by: Spracne on March 23, 2022, 03:53:33 PM
Cardinals are probably the dumbest sentient beings on earth. I'm sure you can figure out a way to get it to kill itself.
Its been ramming its body into my kitchen window for hours each day for over a month. I'm not sure it can be killed.
I'm telling you, you need to open the window, let it in, and see what it has to say.
The most common interpretation of a cardinal is a message from a departed loved one. Whenever you see one, it signifies that they are visiting you. They generally appear when you need or miss them the most. They also come through moments of joy and sorrow to let you know they will always be there for you.
Read more here: https://www.thayerbirding.com/what-it-means-when-you-see-a-cardinal/
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 23, 2022, 03:59:21 PM
Post by: bucket on March 23, 2022, 04:38:17 PM
Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 24, 2022, 08:49:15 AM
Cardinals are probably the dumbest sentient beings on earth. I'm sure you can figure out a way to get it to kill itself.
Its been ramming its body into my kitchen window for hours each day for over a month. I'm not sure it can be killed.
I'm telling you, you need to open the window, let it in, and see what it has to say.
The most common interpretation of a cardinal is a message from a departed loved one. Whenever you see one, it signifies that they are visiting you. They generally appear when you need or miss them the most. They also come through moments of joy and sorrow to let you know they will always be there for you.
Read more here: https://www.thayerbirding.com/what-it-means-when-you-see-a-cardinal/
You may be on to something here. I've always suspected I may be adopted. Maybe its someone from my real family telling me where all the money is. :dunno: I think I'll go buy a cat first just in case its just some bad person bird that I stupidly let in the house.
Post by: ben ji on September 05, 2022, 10:20:27 PM
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Post by: sys on September 05, 2022, 10:29:17 PM
Post by: ben ji on September 06, 2022, 07:50:14 AM
how many different species do you have in that pile?
Probably like all of them. The big ole Eurasian Collared Doves live out at the cat ranch 24/7.
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on September 06, 2022, 09:00:49 AM
Post by: ben ji on October 24, 2022, 05:59:56 PM
Scared the crap out of me when I walked out and saw it.
These are all of her unassisted kills
Squirrel?
Rabbit?
Chipmunk?
Mouse?
Possum?
Pheasant?
She can do it all!
Post by: ben ji on October 24, 2022, 06:08:39 PM
Is there a dove stew? You should probably make it if so.Made some grilled bacon wrapped jalapeno poppers with dove breast in the middle with most then marinated the rest in teriyaki sauce and grilled them on a skewer.
Post by: Katpappy on October 24, 2022, 06:26:45 PM
Is there a dove stew? You should probably make it if so.Made some grilled bacon wrapped jalapeno poppers with dove breast in the middle with most then marinated the rest in teriyaki sauce and grilled them on a skewer.
How did they turn out? It's been quite a few years since I cooked dove, but I remember them as not the tastiest bird I ever eat.
Post by: ben ji on October 25, 2022, 11:54:37 AM
Is there a dove stew? You should probably make it if so.Made some grilled bacon wrapped jalapeno poppers with dove breast in the middle with most then marinated the rest in teriyaki sauce and grilled them on a skewer.
How did they turn out? It's been quite a few years since I cooked dove, but I remember them as not the tastiest bird I ever eat.
I think its delicious, you can't really taste it in the jalapeno poppers but the breasts I cooked on the skewer were great.
Post by: wetwillie on November 09, 2022, 04:45:52 PM
Post by: ben ji on November 09, 2022, 09:43:23 PM
@ben ji you cat ranchin’ this weekend chasing some ringnecks?
Absolutely, heading out Friday afternoon and off on Monday so I should get a solid 2.5 days of hunting in. Looks like the temps out at the cat ranch should be close to ideal with highs around 50.
Will be interesting to see where the birds are at (if there are any after the drought) since the last update from my dad was that the zero'd out Milo was still standing and hadn't been baled/grazed yet. Last opening weekend the highs got up into the 70's and I couldn't find a bird in the CRP to save my life, they were all in the fields still. When I came back later in the year and it was colder I could find them in the CRP again.
Our dryland Milo field was unharvested last year as well and I tried to hunt it a few times, nabbed a couple of birds but it was too large to effectively hunt with just 1 person and a dog.
Post by: ben ji on November 09, 2022, 09:45:10 PM
Post by: XocolateThundarr on November 09, 2022, 10:28:32 PM
Is @wetwillie / @XocolateThundarr or anyone else getting after some birds this weekend?
Not going to this weekend. I'm heading to Flint Oak Monday and Tuesday for some bird slayin'. Focus for the next month or so will be on whackin' a couple of bucks.
Post by: ben ji on November 09, 2022, 10:43:51 PM
Is @wetwillie / @XocolateThundarr or anyone else getting after some birds this weekend?
Not going to this weekend. I'm heading to Flint Oak Monday and Tuesday for some bird slayin'. Focus for the next month or so will be on whackin' a couple of bucks.
I have never heard of this place but googled it and it looks amazing, like somewhere an elite K-State grad would go to blow off some steam.
Will you be doing a European shoot?
https://www.flintoak.com/european
Post by: wetwillie on November 10, 2022, 06:03:22 AM
Is @wetwillie / @XocolateThundarr or anyone else getting after some birds this weekend?
I’ll be out around Pratt/Great Bend area getting after them. Expectations are somewhat low since it’s been incredibly dry out there this year.
Post by: XocolateThundarr on November 10, 2022, 08:28:09 AM
Is @wetwillie / @XocolateThundarr or anyone else getting after some birds this weekend?
Not going to this weekend. I'm heading to Flint Oak Monday and Tuesday for some bird slayin'. Focus for the next month or so will be on whackin' a couple of bucks.
I have never heard of this place but googled it and it looks amazing, like somewhere an elite K-State grad would go to blow off some steam.
Will you be doing a European shoot?
https://www.flintoak.com/european
We have a European scheduled for the first day and then a field hunt the day after to clean up the birds that we miss in the European.
Post by: wetwillie on November 14, 2022, 08:04:42 PM
@ben ji you cat ranchin’ this weekend chasing some ringnecks?
Absolutely, heading out Friday afternoon and off on Monday so I should get a solid 2.5 days of hunting in. Looks like the temps out at the cat ranch should be close to ideal with highs around 50.
Will be interesting to see where the birds are at (if there are any after the drought) since the last update from my dad was that the zero'd out Milo was still standing and hadn't been baled/grazed yet. Last opening weekend the highs got up into the 70's and I couldn't find a bird in the CRP to save my life, they were all in the fields still. When I came back later in the year and it was colder I could find them in the CRP again.
Our dryland Milo field was unharvested last year as well and I tried to hunt it a few times, nabbed a couple of birds but it was too large to effectively hunt with just 1 person and a dog.
Need a field report. Wild bird numbers in Barton county were surprisingly good. Saw about 25 pheasants and two coveys of quail in 5 miles of walking on Saturday.
Post by: ben ji on November 15, 2022, 10:04:45 AM
It was pretty dismal out in Thomas County. The main area I hunt is a couple thousand acres around the cat ranch including 4 CRP fields and some weedy draws that I can usually bag 1-2 birds a day in. In 2 full days I saw 1 male genitals and maybe 4 hens.@ben ji you cat ranchin’ this weekend chasing some ringnecks?
Absolutely, heading out Friday afternoon and off on Monday so I should get a solid 2.5 days of hunting in. Looks like the temps out at the cat ranch should be close to ideal with highs around 50.
Will be interesting to see where the birds are at (if there are any after the drought) since the last update from my dad was that the zero'd out Milo was still standing and hadn't been baled/grazed yet. Last opening weekend the highs got up into the 70's and I couldn't find a bird in the CRP to save my life, they were all in the fields still. When I came back later in the year and it was colder I could find them in the CRP again.
Our dryland Milo field was unharvested last year as well and I tried to hunt it a few times, nabbed a couple of birds but it was too large to effectively hunt with just 1 person and a dog.
Need a field report. Wild bird numbers in Barton county were surprisingly good. Saw about 25 pheasants and two coveys of quail in 5 miles of walking on Saturday.
Sunday afternoon we went to a large WIHA of CRP about 15 miles from the cat ranch and finally saw some birds (5-10) but the majority flushed far out of range, I was just happy to see any birds at that point.
I fired my gun 1 time in 2.5 days of hiking.
Post by: ben ji on November 15, 2022, 10:05:39 AM
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Post by: wetwillie on November 15, 2022, 12:00:39 PM
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on November 17, 2022, 08:20:32 PM
Post by: ben ji on November 17, 2022, 08:29:08 PM
That’s a shame. Hopefully the rains return and that area gets a nice rebound for spring.
I'm a glutton for punishment so I'm going out thanksgiving weekend. Planning to hunt some ground around Russell area on the way out to the cat ranch. Will probably drive 1.5 hours east from the cat ranch one day to hunt some WIHA around wakeeny/plainville (according the the KDWPT there are some birds there) but will hit up some areas around the cat ranch in the morning/evening while out there.
Post by: XocolateThundarr on November 17, 2022, 09:18:58 PM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on November 18, 2022, 08:35:17 AM
https://twitter.com/dontrellchillis/status/1593371936167534596?s=46&t=t8RB4Pt-_sj3qzIXoWrZBgThat's incredible.
Post by: Pete on April 02, 2023, 03:27:16 PM
We will also have a large feeder on a timer and a mineral/salt lick.
My kid and my dad will be the deer murderers. My friend and I have no desire other than to be the enablers.
Post by: wetwillie on April 02, 2023, 03:38:11 PM
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Post by: star seed 7 on April 02, 2023, 04:14:57 PM
Post by: ben ji on April 03, 2023, 03:48:42 PM
My dad confided in me that he doesn't really like killing animals anymore and thinks he's going to switch to taking animal pictures insteadHis bird dogs are going to be super confused the first time they flush a pheasant and hear a camera click instead of a shotgun.
Post by: star seed 7 on April 03, 2023, 04:12:28 PM
Post by: Katpappy on April 03, 2023, 08:56:42 PM
He still plans on genociding fish though
Once you get murder in your blood it's hard to flush it out of your system.
Post by: ben ji on June 21, 2023, 06:01:59 PM
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Post by: schreds21 on June 21, 2023, 06:57:11 PM
Post by: Pete on June 22, 2023, 01:39:48 PM
Stopped at the gas station off exit 342 on the way back from the cat ranch last weekend and just had to drop $13.99 on this beaut of a Tshirt.I am very jealous
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Post by: ben ji on February 02, 2024, 05:32:42 PM
Went out one last time about a week ago for the end of the season and the stars aligned. Went to my WIHA honey hole about 3 miles away from the cat ranch, it's a weedy draw in the middle of crop fields about half a mile long.
Flushed probably 25 birds walking up originally but the 3 I got were all due to Milo. We were walking into the wind along the draw and then she would get a scent and jump in a 4ft jumble of weeds and a solitary rooster came out each time...
Went back to the same spot the next day and didn't see a single bird
10/10 would recommend
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Post by: ben ji on February 02, 2024, 05:34:51 PM
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Post by: Pete on February 02, 2024, 11:48:09 PM
Got skunked all of last year due to the drought and only killed one bird in the 3 times I went out to the cat ranch in Nov/Dec this year.That’s fantastic.
Went out one last time about a week ago for the end of the season and the stars aligned. Went to my WIHA honey hole about 3 miles away from the cat ranch, it's a weedy draw in the middle of crop fields about half a mile long.
Flushed probably 25 birds walking up originally but the 3 I got were all due to Milo. We were walking into the wind along the draw and then she would get a scent and jump in a 4ft jumble of weeds and a solitary rooster came out each time...
Went back to the same spot the next day and didn't see a single bird
10/10 would recommend
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Post by: wetwillie on April 21, 2024, 10:42:19 PM
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