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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #750 on: September 29, 2016, 09:37:45 AM »
Thanks guys.  I know it may not look like it on it's face, but this was a successful trip.

1)  I had found a place with animals, including trophy animals, with almost no other hunting pressure, and a relatively short pack-in (2ish miles and 1500ft elevation is cake compared to wilderness hunts).  I think we made our pack out in less than 3 hours.  I also think we could do it in the dark if we had to.  I can buy this tag any year I want, I don't have to draw one.  Also, there is water in an otherwise high-desert type environment.  That's crucial.  You don't want to expend all this effort just to drink.
2)  I successfully called in two bulls, and got to full draw twice. 
3)  We were in to animals almost every day.

It's really painful for me to invest all this effort in preparation and not kill something.  So many nights I was at the gym grinding while my wife and kid slept.  Or I was up late looking at Google Earth trying to find places to go.  Or I was on the phone with everyone from the game warden to outfitters to biologists to asst director of roads folks.  It's a big time and especially emotional investment.  This was my year.  And now I have to stew over some things I might now do differently.  Add to it this is time away from my family.  When we packed out I called home (from the high spot where I got service) and my wife told me my 2 y/o son kept saying "daddy come home."  That kills me that I would willfully choose to be away from them and not achieve my goal.  I failed them in that respect.  I know I could have hunted harder, gotten up earlier, stayed out later, bullied my partner into doing it my way, etc etc.  The only thing I know to do is to re-double my efforts and try again next year, and hopefully with my additional knowledge and experience I can get it done.  I will punish myself over the next year so that I am totally ready.  This is my vow.

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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #751 on: September 29, 2016, 09:53:56 AM »
I for one am glad you didn't kill anything

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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #752 on: September 29, 2016, 09:54:38 AM »
I like the zeal, emo
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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #753 on: September 29, 2016, 10:36:33 AM »
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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #754 on: September 29, 2016, 11:11:00 AM »
@emo -  :thumbs: :thumbs:

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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #755 on: September 29, 2016, 03:39:48 PM »
I'd like to address a misconception:

It wasn't the spring water that made me sick.  After all we took that water from the source, and it hasn't seen light since before Jesus Christ was just a twinkle in His Daddy's eye.  It was my protein chowder that did it.  It contains whole foods and is supposed to stay refrigerated.  I guess it spoiled after a few days.  I dumped the rest that I had and drank many liters of that water with no apparent adverse affects.

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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #756 on: September 29, 2016, 03:43:39 PM »
sorry

and do many powders need to be refrigerated? (serious question)
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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #757 on: September 29, 2016, 03:44:32 PM »
sorry

and do many powders need to be refrigerated? (serious question)

It's the only one I've come across that's like that. 

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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #758 on: September 29, 2016, 03:47:35 PM »
all that planning and you didn't think to call the chowder manufacturer?  risky indeed

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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #759 on: September 29, 2016, 03:58:31 PM »
I take two protein powders on a regular day.

1 is more of a meal replacement in the morning, 150 calories per ~30g scoop. 
1 is more of a pure protein/after workout chowder, only 110 calories per ~30g scoop.

So I decided to risk it for the extra 80 calories per day (2 scoops), which if I had to replace elsewhere would have meant an additional 6.4 ounces.  In retrospect it was a poor decision.   :bs:


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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #760 on: September 29, 2016, 05:58:16 PM »
I am going to resist the urge to make fun of you in this particular situation. Thanks for sharing. The pictures are awesome.

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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #761 on: October 10, 2016, 09:15:12 AM »
This weekend I was up on Fort Riley looking for the elks again.  Found some fresh'ish tracks, but only one animal (not like a herd).  So, better than last weekend but still not great.  On Sunday night four does (deer) ran right at me and I had a tag and we're out of steaks so heck with it I shot one.  Took me two hours to break her down by myself.  Got home about 1230 and taking care of the meat some more I didn't get to bed until about 3AM.  Today might suck.

Aaaaand I just realized my grill is broken.  eff.  Was planning on fresh steaks this week. 

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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #762 on: October 10, 2016, 09:42:57 AM »
Do doe steaks make the entire neighborhood smell like that gross deer meat smell?
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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #763 on: October 10, 2016, 09:44:55 AM »
Do doe steaks make the entire neighborhood smell like that gross deer meat smell?
Generally yes. :barf:

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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #764 on: October 10, 2016, 10:00:23 AM »
Do doe steaks make the entire neighborhood smell like that gross deer meat smell?

Dunno, this will be my first time eating doe.  Have heard they taste better than old buck which is what I'm used to eating (and love).  If you get all the fat out it's better than beef IMO.

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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #765 on: October 21, 2016, 09:06:46 AM »
Got my 2015 bow kill back from the taxidermist yesterday.


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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #766 on: October 21, 2016, 09:08:20 AM »
Wow great deer!  The taxi did a really nice job with him, too.  Did you by chance age him?

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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #767 on: October 21, 2016, 09:22:04 AM »
No, I didn't.  I'd guess 4 1/2 or 5 1/2. 

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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #768 on: October 21, 2016, 09:27:28 AM »
Never seen a deer tree before.

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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #769 on: October 21, 2016, 09:55:45 AM »
Emo, do you have any issues with breaking down your doe so quickly after harvest?

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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #770 on: October 21, 2016, 12:00:02 PM »
Emo, do you have any issues with breaking down your doe so quickly after harvest?

Not really.  It was the first one I've done by myself.  I do the gutless method.  It was kinda warm and there were a lot of mosquitos and it was dark and all of that was annoying.  I stuck myself a couple times with my knife point but didn't bleed.  Fort Riley lets you drive your vehicle to the kill site so that's what I did.  I could have loaded her whole or have gutted her and then loaded but 1) I hate gutting, 2) I wanted to get the hide off ASAP to get the meat cooling, and 3) I didn't want all these extra pieces ending up at my house.  For a few days my truck smelled like dead deer because I didn't get to wash off my hands that good and I got it on the steering wheel.  It kinda smelled good and bad.  I really like taking them apart, aside from like the bugs and darkness.  I like butchering too.  I don't know how many more deer I will shoot when it's hot outside though.  Better when cold.  I figure it takes about 15-20 man hours to get a deer from dead carcass in the field to meat packaged ready for consumption.  Maybe more.

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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #771 on: October 21, 2016, 01:12:29 PM »
Emo, do you have any issues with breaking down your doe so quickly after harvest?

Not really.  It was the first one I've done by myself.  I do the gutless method.  It was kinda warm and there were a lot of mosquitos and it was dark and all of that was annoying.  I stuck myself a couple times with my knife point but didn't bleed.  Fort Riley lets you drive your vehicle to the kill site so that's what I did.  I could have loaded her whole or have gutted her and then loaded but 1) I hate gutting, 2) I wanted to get the hide off ASAP to get the meat cooling, and 3) I didn't want all these extra pieces ending up at my house.  For a few days my truck smelled like dead deer because I didn't get to wash off my hands that good and I got it on the steering wheel.  It kinda smelled good and bad.  I really like taking them apart, aside from like the bugs and darkness.  I like butchering too.  I don't know how many more deer I will shoot when it's hot outside though.  Better when cold.  I figure it takes about 15-20 man hours to get a deer from dead carcass in the field to meat packaged ready for consumption.  Maybe more.
I'd always red that if you quarter/butcher the harvest before rigor mortis sets in, the meat will seize up.  Do you just butcher at the joints?  I suppose you wouldn't really have this problem if you left all the large muscle groups intact.

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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #772 on: October 21, 2016, 01:27:26 PM »
Emo, do you have any issues with breaking down your doe so quickly after harvest?

Not really.  It was the first one I've done by myself.  I do the gutless method.  It was kinda warm and there were a lot of mosquitos and it was dark and all of that was annoying.  I stuck myself a couple times with my knife point but didn't bleed.  Fort Riley lets you drive your vehicle to the kill site so that's what I did.  I could have loaded her whole or have gutted her and then loaded but 1) I hate gutting, 2) I wanted to get the hide off ASAP to get the meat cooling, and 3) I didn't want all these extra pieces ending up at my house.  For a few days my truck smelled like dead deer because I didn't get to wash off my hands that good and I got it on the steering wheel.  It kinda smelled good and bad.  I really like taking them apart, aside from like the bugs and darkness.  I like butchering too.  I don't know how many more deer I will shoot when it's hot outside though.  Better when cold.  I figure it takes about 15-20 man hours to get a deer from dead carcass in the field to meat packaged ready for consumption.  Maybe more.
I'd always red that if you quarter/butcher the harvest before rigor mortis sets in, the meat will seize up.  Do you just butcher at the joints?  I suppose you wouldn't really have this problem if you left all the large muscle groups intact.

I just took off the quarters, so the muscles still stayed attached to the leg bones.  I have heard the same as you.  I have heard if you leave them on the bone a few days then the muscles relax again and can be butchered no problem. 

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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #773 on: October 25, 2016, 05:18:52 PM »
What's with this proposed Kansas constitutional amendment about hunting?? Should I vote yes or no?

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Re: Killing animals
« Reply #774 on: October 25, 2016, 05:40:17 PM »
What's with this proposed Kansas constitutional amendment about hunting?? Should I vote yes or no?

I don't think it makes any difference either way.