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Re: phog.net realignment gems
« Reply #350 on: September 15, 2011, 07:44:39 PM »
This should really get a reaction from the resident butthurt hayseeds:  

http://oklahomastate.scout.com/2/1106772.html


From the Eugene Reporter:


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There is plenty of talk that Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott does not want to sit at 14 conference members and that two other Big 12 schools will be joining the Oklahoma contingent.

It is known that the Pac-12 greatly values Texas and has designs on Texas and Texas Tech being that pair. However, the Longhorns stubbornness in wanting to keep it's third tier rights and partner with ESPN in the Longhorn Network is a sticking point for both Texas and Scott and the Pac-12. The other pair in lieu of Texas and Texas Tech appear to be Kansas and Missouri or Kansas and Kansas State.

One journalist with plenty of experience and contacts throughout the conferences and schools most heavily involved in the current state of realignment is George Schroeder of the Eugene (Ore.) Register Guard. Schroeder, who also writes for national publications, including Sports Illustrated, has covered Arkansas and the SEC, Oklahoma and the Big 12, and has been in Oregon covering the Ducks, the Pac-12, and national college football for the past four years.

Schroeder says his sources tell him the Pac-12, as reported, will take Oklahoma State and Oklahoma, with or without Texas.

"It's clear that Oklahoma and Oklahoma State that the Pac-12 is ready to invite them and that they have that indicated to them regardless of whether or not Texas or anybody else is willing to come along," said Schroeder. "I have heard that from people that are high up at the Pac-12 that will happen. I'm also hearing that they really want Texas and that they don't want to be at 14.

"Now as things continue to happen and as we wait for the SEC and Texas A&M (to be official), I think we are going to continue to hear wilder and wilder things," added Schroeder. "The KU and K-State thing would be mildly surprising to me. They would love to have Kansas, academically and basketball. It would not be a monetary thing with football, but it would give you a flagship basketball program on one side of the league and one on the other side of the league with UCLA. It just gets weirder and weirder as time goes on."

Schroeder said he isn't sure whether all of this realignment and the move toward super conferences is good or bad for college football and college athletics. It really kind of remains to be seen. He also isn't sure whether the rapid movement of it all is good or bad or if something is being missed in breakneck speed that schools and conferences are shifting.

He does see that Oklahoma State and Oklahoma will fit in some ways into the culture of the Pac-12 Conference and in some ways they may not, but their influence will be felt and be felt the day they join the league.

"I think it all sort of depends on if they take two schools and get to 14 or if they take four schools and get to 16," started Schroeder. "If you get to 16 and you have the East-West divisions then you are still with the same schools you have been playing all these years. You would have the original Pac-8 and then you would have Arizona, Arizona State, Utah, Colorado, and whatever these four Big 12 schools would be. At that point it is a nice fit because you really have two leagues within one. If you just have 14 then it is a cultural adjustment for everybody because the Pac-12 is a different league. Even the passion is different. Oregon can fit in anywhere.Their fan base is like that in the SEC or Big 12. Eugene is a liberal hotbed, but their passion for football is like the schools in the SEC and Big 12.

"The image of UCLA fans half filling the Rose Bowl and playing with beach balls like they are at Dodger Stadium is a little bit of a characterture, but it's not a bad characterture. It will be a culture shock in some ways for everybody."

Get ready for a little shock because it sure looks strong that the Cowboys are edging that way along with the Sooners. The major question is who or what two will join them?


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Re: phog.net realignment gems
« Reply #351 on: September 15, 2011, 07:47:19 PM »
KU is right on par with Notre Dame ... when it comes to adding additional conference revenue

seriously rough ridin' Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).  I mean you have no concept of how rough ridin' Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) this is.  I'm rough ridin' stunned at how rough ridin' dumb you are.  Honestly you are making KU look bad by claiming to be an educated fan and than posting crap like this.  You make KU look worse than the diploma mill high schools your b-ball recruits go to.




Love the fact you have yet to respond to Dax and I calling out your revenue sources before.  I mean who doesn't think frank the tank's blog and turfburner.com aren't reputable sources. 

Also when was KC's espn ratings the highest in decades?  I seem to recall K-State MADE that happen as KU has had many opportunities and failed.  Face it Beem you keep holding on to KC market when you know deep down inside that you control nothing.  Your T-Shirt fans are one Bill Self recruiting trip away from turning off the TV sets as KU goes on probation again. 



Nice meltdown, butthurt hayseed.  Take your anger out on whoever compiled the data for this list:


CANDIDATES    TOTAL ADDED REVENUE ESTIMATE
     
Texas    $101,369,004
Rutgers    WITH NYC    $67,798,609
Nebraska    $54,487,990
Maryland    $50,818,889
Boston College    $48,382,692
Notre Dame    $47,629,255
Kansas    $46,320,092
Missouri    $45,901,459
Syracuse    $43,504,813
Connecticut    $38,080,271
Pittsburgh    $34,365,175
Iowa State    $31,831,077
     
Syracuse  WITH NYC    $65,874,573

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Re: phog.net realignment gems
« Reply #352 on: September 15, 2011, 07:48:34 PM »
http://frankthetank.wordpress.com/2010/02/21/list-of-15-big-ten-candidates-is-who-may-come-with-texas-or-notre-dame-not-instead-of-them/

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The fact that the Big Ten has a list of 15 schools that it’s looking at is an indication that the conference is looking at numerous schools that are significantly outside of its conference geographic footprint.  To me, this exercise looks a lot more like an evaluation of “Who do we add on top of Texas and/or Notre Dame if we’re willing to go to 14 schools?”  From a realistic standpoint, schools from the SEC aren’t going to ever move while the 2 schools that the Big Ten would want from the Pac-10 (USC and UCLA) are no-brainers in the same category as Texas and Notre Dame where there’s no point in even examining them because they’re in if they want to join.  Here is my semi-educated guess as to who is on that list of 15 schools as well as the key questions that the Big Ten ought to be asking about them:

1.  Syracuse – Does it really bring in the NYC market?  Can it bring in the NYC market when it’s combined with Penn State?  If yes, does Syracuse or Rutgers do this better?

2.  Rutgers – See comment for Syracuse.

3.  UCONN – Can it make inroads into both the NYC and Boston markets?  It’s not an AAU member but its overall rankings are pretty solid, so is that good enough academically?  Is the youth of the football program at the Division 1-A level a complete non-starter?

4.  Pitt – Great for both academics and athletics, but can they really add much in terms of TV viewers with Penn State already delivering the Pittsburgh market, especially when there are other candidates that are similar but can bring in new markets?

5.  Maryland – Is it more trustworthy in its ability to deliver the DC and Baltimore markets than the other East Coast candidates with respect to their own markets?  What does a Maryland/Penn State combo do for the conference in terms of delivering the Mid-Atlantic region?  Is there enough commitment to the football program in terms of long-term competitiveness?

6.  Virginia – An unequivocal academic superstar, but are its athletic programs good enough to add more value?  Can it really deliver the DC market any better than Maryland?

7.  Virginia Tech – Rising in terms of academics but not an AAU member, so is that satisfactory?  Can it really deliver the DC market any better than Maryland or UVA?

8.  Boston College - Can it really deliver the Boston market?  Is the fan base large enough to justify inclusion?  Very strong undergrad program but isn’t an AAU member, so will it fit academically?

9.  Miami – Can it deliver the Florida market by itself?  It’s not an AAU member and doesn’t have great graduate programs, but it’s a top 50 undergrad school.  Is that enough in terms of academics?  Is the poor attendance and traveling fan base for the football program trumped by its extremely strong national TV drawing power?

10.  Missouri - Has the ability to draw in the St. Louis and Kansas City markets, but is that enough considering that there are options in more populous regions like the Northeast, Florida and Texas?  Many assume that it’s an academic fit as an AAU member, but it’s actually lower in the US News rankings than Nebraska, so does it really meet the Big Ten’s academic requirements?

11.  Nebraska – Is the national drawing power of its football program enough to compensate for its tiny home TV market?  Lots of questions as to whether it would be an academic fit even though it’s an AAU member already.  Does it meet the Big Ten’s academic standards?

12.  Colorado – Long assumed to be a top Pac-10 target, but could it be a viable Big Ten candidate since it’s actually a better academic and cultural fit with the Big Ten than anyone in the Big XII besides Texas?  Is the population growth trend in the Denver area more attractive than adding presently larger markets like the state of Missouri when looking at this decision 20 or 30 years down the road?

13.  Oklahoma – Obvious national football power, but without AAU membership (unlike Missouri or Nebraska) or high academic rankings (unlike UConn), can it fit in academically?

14.  Kansas – 99% of these decisions are about football, but Kansas isn’t any ordinary basketball school (where only Duke, UNC and Kentucky can compare nationally).  Is the elite status of its basketball program enough to compensate for a historically weak football program that no longer has the services of Baby Mangino?

15.  Texas A&M – Is the Big Ten truly fine with the thought of Texas A&M coming along with Texas in a package deal?  Are the Aggies really a threat to go to the SEC if the Big Ten doesn’t invite them?  What do they bring to the table that Texas doesn’t bring alone?



Please note that K-State is/was not a candidate for the Big 10.


http://frankthetank.wordpress.com/2010/04/19/the-value-of-expansion-candidates-to-the-big-ten-network/


CANDIDATES    TOTAL ADDED REVENUE ESTIMATE
     
Texas    $101,369,004
Rutgers    WITH NYC    $67,798,609
Nebraska    $54,487,990
Maryland    $50,818,889
Boston College    $48,382,692
Notre Dame    $47,629,255
Kansas    $46,320,092
Missouri    $45,901,459
Syracuse    $43,504,813
Connecticut    $38,080,271
Pittsburgh    $34,365,175
Iowa State    $31,831,077
     
Syracuse  WITH NYC    $65,874,573


Please note that K-State is/was not a candidate for Big 10 expansion.

you simple crap do you even fact check the crap you are getting from these blogs?


Candidates   Potential New   Cable Carry   Cable Ad Increase   Est. Increase In   Est. Added Revenue   Total Added Revenue
    Households   Increase   New Market   Current Footprint   Increased Games BTN   Estimate
Texas   7,501,000   $32,404,320   $33,063,884   $25,900,800   $10,000,000   $101,369,004
Rutgers    WITH NYC   7,493,000   $32,369,760   $12,855,921   $12,572,928   $10,000,000   $67,798,609
Nebraska   1,275,000   $5,508,000   $16,992,662   $21,987,328   $10,000,000   $54,487,990
Maryland   3,586,000   $15,491,520   $13,947,657   $11,379,712   $10,000,000   $50,818,889
Boston College   3,291,000   $14,217,120   $15,022,276   $9,143,296   $10,000,000   $48,382,692
Notre Dame   n/a   n/a   $16,945,735   $20,683,520   $10,000,000   $47,629,255
Kansas   1,728,000   $7,464,960   $15,906,396   $12,948,736   $10,000,000   $46,320,092
Missouri   1,542,000   $6,661,440   $12,825,299   $16,414,720   $10,000,000   $45,901,459
Syracuse   2,600,000   $11,232,000   $12,277,805   $9,995,008   $10,000,000   $43,504,813
Connecticut   1,010,000   $4,363,200   $13,930,447   $9,786,624   $10,000,000   $38,080,271
Pittsburgh   n/a   n/a   10,682,999   $13,682,176   $10,000,000   $34,365,175
Iowa State   n/a   n/a   $9,993,125   $11,837,952   $10,000,000   $31,831,077
                        
Syracuse  WITH NYC   10,093,000   $43,601,760   $12,277,805   $9,995,008   $10,000,000   $65,874,573


JFC its just crap from some guy's ass.
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Re: phog.net realignment gems
« Reply #353 on: September 15, 2011, 07:49:46 PM »
They would love to have Kansas, academically and basketball.

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Re: phog.net realignment gems
« Reply #354 on: September 15, 2011, 07:51:41 PM »
I'm not melting down.  I'm so rough ridin' stunned that you claim to be educated.  I'm really shocked.  You complete lack of a logical thought process is unbelievable.  Do you crap yourself often because I can't see how you can keep the order of operations down for basic human functions.  


Please respond either my critique of your source which had KU at a value of 7.5mill plus and Texas at 350k and Dax's pwning you about profit due to contributions from student funds.  
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Re: phog.net realignment gems
« Reply #355 on: September 15, 2011, 07:52:15 PM »
Well, that didn't take long.  Butthurt hayseed deniers are out in full force.  


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Re: phog.net realignment gems
« Reply #356 on: September 15, 2011, 07:52:21 PM »
Dude writes for the Eugene paper?  :lol:

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« Reply #357 on: September 15, 2011, 07:53:28 PM »
I'm not melting down.  I'm so rough ridin' stunned that you claim to be educated.  I'm really shocked.  You complete lack of a logical thought process is unbelievable.  Do you crap yourself often because I can't see how you can keep the order of operations down for basic human functions.  


Please respond either my critique of your source which had KU at a value of 7.5mill plus and Texas at 350k and Dax's pwning you about profit due to contributions from student funds.  






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Re: phog.net realignment gems
« Reply #358 on: September 15, 2011, 07:54:15 PM »
Yeah, what would the University of Oregon know about Pac 12 expansion?


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« Reply #359 on: September 15, 2011, 07:55:03 PM »
Beems forgetting that he's from Kansas, again.

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« Reply #360 on: September 15, 2011, 07:55:40 PM »
I'm not melting down.  I'm so rough ridin' stunned that you claim to be educated.  I'm really shocked.  You complete lack of a logical thought process is unbelievable.  Do you crap yourself often because I can't see how you can keep the order of operations down for basic human functions.  


Please respond either my critique of your source which had KU at a value of 7.5mill plus and Texas at 350k and Dax's pwning you about profit due to contributions from student funds.  






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wut?








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You fail to acknowledge evidence that KU has little to no money, and ednksu is the one melting down?

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Re: phog.net realignment gems
« Reply #361 on: September 15, 2011, 07:56:33 PM »
The KU academics angle is your most Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) talking point, its just as easy for any dumbass to get into ku as it is k-state.



Look, butthurt hayseed, being an AAU member helps KU in regards to conference expansion.  It's why K-State will never be considered for the Big 10.  

Ku isn't being considered for Big 10 either.  

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« Reply #362 on: September 15, 2011, 07:58:43 PM »
Manhattan should set up an Ellis Island-ish thing where they open the city to each and every Mexican that wants to move there.  Lots of Mexicans (like your bball team  :lol: ).  And when they come, instead of a giving them a cup of soup, you give them a color TV set.  That place would get huge.  Huge TV-owning population = huge TV market.  This is the only way to avoid the Missouri Valley.  Believe!!
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Re: phog.net realignment gems
« Reply #363 on: September 15, 2011, 07:58:44 PM »
I'm not melting down.  I'm so rough ridin' stunned that you claim to be educated.  I'm really shocked.  You complete lack of a logical thought process is unbelievable.  Do you crap yourself often because I can't see how you can keep the order of operations down for basic human functions.  


Please respond either my critique of your source which had KU at a value of 7.5mill plus and Texas at 350k and Dax's pwning you about profit due to contributions from student funds.  






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wut?








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You fail to acknowledge evidence that KU has little to no money, and ednksu is the one melting down?
You're missing one line between the wut? and the :confused: guy. Mods please modify the [beemstapout] template

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« Reply #364 on: September 15, 2011, 07:59:32 PM »
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i mean you can practically set your watch to this

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« Reply #365 on: September 15, 2011, 08:00:03 PM »
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i mean you can practically set your watch to this

you can also set your watch to me making a comment about setting your watch to this

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« Reply #366 on: September 15, 2011, 08:00:52 PM »
The KU academics angle is your most Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) talking point, its just as easy for any dumbass to get into ku as it is k-state.



Look, butthurt hayseed, being an AAU member helps KU in regards to conference expansion.  It's why K-State will never be considered for the Big 10.  

Ku isn't being considered for Big 10 either.  

Options scenario #323902

They may put that into play if they allow the Big12 to continue


Beems is there a BINDER to contain all these OPTIONS
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« Reply #367 on: September 15, 2011, 08:00:57 PM »
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i mean you can practically set your watch to this

you can also set your watch to me making a comment about setting your watch to this

then you can set your watch to me making a comment about setting your watch to making a comment about setting your watch and then barry switzer teabags your mother.

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« Reply #368 on: September 15, 2011, 08:01:24 PM »
The KU academics angle is your most Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) talking point, its just as easy for any dumbass to get into ku as it is k-state.



Look, butthurt hayseed, being an AAU member helps KU in regards to conference expansion.  It's why K-State will never be considered for the Big 10.  

Ku isn't being considered for Big 10 either.  


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The fact that the Big Ten has a list of 15 schools that it’s looking at is an indication that the conference is looking at numerous schools that are significantly outside of its conference geographic footprint.  To me, this exercise looks a lot more like an evaluation of “Who do we add on top of Texas and/or Notre Dame if we’re willing to go to 14 schools?”  From a realistic standpoint, schools from the SEC aren’t going to ever move while the 2 schools that the Big Ten would want from the Pac-10 (USC and UCLA) are no-brainers in the same category as Texas and Notre Dame where there’s no point in even examining them because they’re in if they want to join.  Here is my semi-educated guess as to who is on that list of 15 schools as well as the key questions that the Big Ten ought to be asking about them:

1.  Syracuse – Does it really bring in the NYC market?  Can it bring in the NYC market when it’s combined with Penn State?  If yes, does Syracuse or Rutgers do this better?

2.  Rutgers – See comment for Syracuse.

3.  UCONN – Can it make inroads into both the NYC and Boston markets?  It’s not an AAU member but its overall rankings are pretty solid, so is that good enough academically?  Is the youth of the football program at the Division 1-A level a complete non-starter?

4.  Pitt – Great for both academics and athletics, but can they really add much in terms of TV viewers with Penn State already delivering the Pittsburgh market, especially when there are other candidates that are similar but can bring in new markets?

5.  Maryland – Is it more trustworthy in its ability to deliver the DC and Baltimore markets than the other East Coast candidates with respect to their own markets?  What does a Maryland/Penn State combo do for the conference in terms of delivering the Mid-Atlantic region?  Is there enough commitment to the football program in terms of long-term competitiveness?

6.  Virginia – An unequivocal academic superstar, but are its athletic programs good enough to add more value?  Can it really deliver the DC market any better than Maryland?

7.  Virginia Tech – Rising in terms of academics but not an AAU member, so is that satisfactory?  Can it really deliver the DC market any better than Maryland or UVA?

8.  Boston College - Can it really deliver the Boston market?  Is the fan base large enough to justify inclusion?  Very strong undergrad program but isn’t an AAU member, so will it fit academically?

9.  Miami – Can it deliver the Florida market by itself?  It’s not an AAU member and doesn’t have great graduate programs, but it’s a top 50 undergrad school.  Is that enough in terms of academics?  Is the poor attendance and traveling fan base for the football program trumped by its extremely strong national TV drawing power?

10.  Missouri - Has the ability to draw in the St. Louis and Kansas City markets, but is that enough considering that there are options in more populous regions like the Northeast, Florida and Texas?  Many assume that it’s an academic fit as an AAU member, but it’s actually lower in the US News rankings than Nebraska, so does it really meet the Big Ten’s academic requirements?

11.  Nebraska – Is the national drawing power of its football program enough to compensate for its tiny home TV market?  Lots of questions as to whether it would be an academic fit even though it’s an AAU member already.  Does it meet the Big Ten’s academic standards?

12.  Colorado – Long assumed to be a top Pac-10 target, but could it be a viable Big Ten candidate since it’s actually a better academic and cultural fit with the Big Ten than anyone in the Big XII besides Texas?  Is the population growth trend in the Denver area more attractive than adding presently larger markets like the state of Missouri when looking at this decision 20 or 30 years down the road?

13.  Oklahoma – Obvious national football power, but without AAU membership (unlike Missouri or Nebraska) or high academic rankings (unlike UConn), can it fit in academically?

14.  Kansas – 99% of these decisions are about football, but Kansas isn’t any ordinary basketball school (where only Duke, UNC and Kentucky can compare nationally).  Is the elite status of its basketball program enough to compensate for a historically weak football program that no longer has the services of Baby Mangino?

15.  Texas A&M – Is the Big Ten truly fine with the thought of Texas A&M coming along with Texas in a package deal?  Are the Aggies really a threat to go to the SEC if the Big Ten doesn’t invite them?  What do they bring to the table that Texas doesn’t bring alone?



This is just too damn easy.  

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« Reply #369 on: September 15, 2011, 08:02:04 PM »
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i mean you can practically set your watch to this

it's like thanksgiving, christmas, and new years all rolled in one

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« Reply #370 on: September 15, 2011, 08:02:39 PM »
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KU is right on par with Notre Dame ... when it comes to adding additional conference revenue

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Re: phog.net realignment gems
« Reply #371 on: September 15, 2011, 08:03:26 PM »
The KU academics angle is your most Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) talking point, its just as easy for any dumbass to get into ku as it is k-state.



Look, butthurt hayseed, being an AAU member helps KU in regards to conference expansion.  It's why K-State will never be considered for the Big 10. 

Ku isn't being considered for Big 10 either. 


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The fact that the Big Ten has a list of 15 schools that it’s looking at is an indication that the conference is looking at numerous schools that are significantly outside of its conference geographic footprint.  To me, this exercise looks a lot more like an evaluation of “Who do we add on top of Texas and/or Notre Dame if we’re willing to go to 14 schools?”  From a realistic standpoint, schools from the SEC aren’t going to ever move while the 2 schools that the Big Ten would want from the Pac-10 (USC and UCLA) are no-brainers in the same category as Texas and Notre Dame where there’s no point in even examining them because they’re in if they want to join.  Here is my semi-educated guess as to who is on that list of 15 schools as well as the key questions that the Big Ten ought to be asking about them:

1.  Syracuse – Does it really bring in the NYC market?  Can it bring in the NYC market when it’s combined with Penn State?  If yes, does Syracuse or Rutgers do this better?

2.  Rutgers – See comment for Syracuse.

3.  UCONN – Can it make inroads into both the NYC and Boston markets?  It’s not an AAU member but its overall rankings are pretty solid, so is that good enough academically?  Is the youth of the football program at the Division 1-A level a complete non-starter?

4.  Pitt – Great for both academics and athletics, but can they really add much in terms of TV viewers with Penn State already delivering the Pittsburgh market, especially when there are other candidates that are similar but can bring in new markets?

5.  Maryland – Is it more trustworthy in its ability to deliver the DC and Baltimore markets than the other East Coast candidates with respect to their own markets?  What does a Maryland/Penn State combo do for the conference in terms of delivering the Mid-Atlantic region?  Is there enough commitment to the football program in terms of long-term competitiveness?

6.  Virginia – An unequivocal academic superstar, but are its athletic programs good enough to add more value?  Can it really deliver the DC market any better than Maryland?

7.  Virginia Tech – Rising in terms of academics but not an AAU member, so is that satisfactory?  Can it really deliver the DC market any better than Maryland or UVA?

8.  Boston College - Can it really deliver the Boston market?  Is the fan base large enough to justify inclusion?  Very strong undergrad program but isn’t an AAU member, so will it fit academically?

9.  Miami – Can it deliver the Florida market by itself?  It’s not an AAU member and doesn’t have great graduate programs, but it’s a top 50 undergrad school.  Is that enough in terms of academics?  Is the poor attendance and traveling fan base for the football program trumped by its extremely strong national TV drawing power?

10.  Missouri - Has the ability to draw in the St. Louis and Kansas City markets, but is that enough considering that there are options in more populous regions like the Northeast, Florida and Texas?  Many assume that it’s an academic fit as an AAU member, but it’s actually lower in the US News rankings than Nebraska, so does it really meet the Big Ten’s academic requirements?

11.  Nebraska – Is the national drawing power of its football program enough to compensate for its tiny home TV market?  Lots of questions as to whether it would be an academic fit even though it’s an AAU member already.  Does it meet the Big Ten’s academic standards?

12.  Colorado – Long assumed to be a top Pac-10 target, but could it be a viable Big Ten candidate since it’s actually a better academic and cultural fit with the Big Ten than anyone in the Big XII besides Texas?  Is the population growth trend in the Denver area more attractive than adding presently larger markets like the state of Missouri when looking at this decision 20 or 30 years down the road?

13.  Oklahoma – Obvious national football power, but without AAU membership (unlike Missouri or Nebraska) or high academic rankings (unlike UConn), can it fit in academically?

14.  Kansas – 99% of these decisions are about football, but Kansas isn’t any ordinary basketball school (where only Duke, UNC and Kentucky can compare nationally).  Is the elite status of its basketball program enough to compensate for a historically weak football program that no longer has the services of Baby Mangino?

15.  Texas A&M – Is the Big Ten truly fine with the thought of Texas A&M coming along with Texas in a package deal?  Are the Aggies really a threat to go to the SEC if the Big Ten doesn’t invite them?  What do they bring to the table that Texas doesn’t bring alone?



This is just too damn easy. 


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Re: phog.net realignment gems
« Reply #372 on: September 15, 2011, 08:04:02 PM »
Manhattan should set up an Ellis Island-ish thing where they open the city to each and every Mexican that wants to move there.  Lots of Mexicans (like your bball team  :lol: ).  And when they come, instead of a giving them a cup of soup, you give them a color TV set.  That place would get huge.  Huge TV-owning population = huge TV market.  This is the only was to avoid the Missouri Valley.  Believe!!

The PAC 10 won't take ku because it's the most racist school in country.

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Re: phog.net realignment gems
« Reply #373 on: September 15, 2011, 08:04:46 PM »
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The fact that the Big Ten has a list of 15 schools that it’s looking at is an indication that the conference is looking at numerous schools that are significantly outside of its conference geographic footprint.

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Here is my semi-educated guess as to who is on that list of 15 schools as well as the key questions that the Big Ten ought to be asking about them:

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Re: phog.net realignment gems
« Reply #374 on: September 15, 2011, 08:05:58 PM »
You're right, I should have never come back.  This place is a cesspool of low self esteem butthurt hayseeds who cheer for one of the worst athletic programs in the country.  I feel sorry for you guys, honestly.  

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