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« Reply #1075 on: April 15, 2016, 10:07:24 AM »
I'm going to start my own company.  If anyone wants a job just let me know.
what about a email interview followed by an instant messenger interview followed by a phone interview followed by a Skype interview followed by a face to face interview?

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« Reply #1076 on: April 15, 2016, 10:12:43 AM »
Every manager had to start out as not a manager to begin with, so there ya go. Unless it's like your dads company or something and he's just mushing your face.

I understand that.  I would assume (correct me if I'm wrong) it's easier to be promoted within a company to a management position.  Those promoting you know and trust you, you know and have the respect of your current peers and other colleagues, and you know the industry, business, and culture of the company in general.  Conversely, I would assume getting your first management job at some other company, that doesn't know you from Adam, knows you don't know crap about their industry, and everything else, would be much more difficult.  It actually makes me question the shittiness of the job if they would consider hiring someone like me in this circumstance. 

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« Reply #1077 on: April 15, 2016, 10:17:09 AM »
Nevermind guys, I decided not to start a company because it seems like a lot of work.  I didn't realize I would have to come up with an interview process.

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« Reply #1078 on: April 15, 2016, 10:32:54 AM »
Nevermind guys, I decided not to start a company because it seems like a lot of work.  I didn't realize I would have to come up with an interview process.
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« Reply #1079 on: April 15, 2016, 10:51:45 AM »


Every manager had to start out as not a manager to begin with, so there ya go. Unless it's like your dads company or something and he's just mushing your face.

I understand that.  I would assume (correct me if I'm wrong) it's easier to be promoted within a company to a management position.  Those promoting you know and trust you, you know and have the respect of your current peers and other colleagues, and you know the industry, business, and culture of the company in general.  Conversely, I would assume getting your first management job at some other company, that doesn't know you from Adam, knows you don't know crap about their industry, and everything else, would be much more difficult.  It actually makes me question the shittiness of the job if they would consider hiring someone like me in this circumstance.

why is this particular management job so important? Maybe shoot for management in an industry you're qualified to work in.

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« Reply #1080 on: April 15, 2016, 10:52:56 AM »
sorry some loser got the job and not you, emo

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« Reply #1081 on: April 15, 2016, 11:14:43 AM »


Every manager had to start out as not a manager to begin with, so there ya go. Unless it's like your dads company or something and he's just mushing your face.

I understand that.  I would assume (correct me if I'm wrong) it's easier to be promoted within a company to a management position.  Those promoting you know and trust you, you know and have the respect of your current peers and other colleagues, and you know the industry, business, and culture of the company in general.  Conversely, I would assume getting your first management job at some other company, that doesn't know you from Adam, knows you don't know crap about their industry, and everything else, would be much more difficult.  It actually makes me question the shittiness of the job if they would consider hiring someone like me in this circumstance.

why is this particular management job so important? Maybe shoot for management in an industry you're qualified to work in.

What makes you think it's important?  My questions are generally applicable, not just for this position.  Frankly, I don't like the industry I'm in.

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« Reply #1082 on: April 15, 2016, 11:18:22 AM »
Interview well and they will pick you
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« Reply #1083 on: April 15, 2016, 11:26:06 AM »
I interviewed with this company about a year ago.  It was an all day interview.  Towards the end I said something like "I never imagined in all my years I could be working in the ******* ******** business."  I think that one comment mumped me.  Which was fine, I didn't really want that job anyway.  It's funny to me that they are now considering me for a job with considerably more responsibility.  I only need to go 8 hours without saying something stupid.  This is going to be a challenge. 

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« Reply #1084 on: April 15, 2016, 11:36:26 AM »


Every manager had to start out as not a manager to begin with, so there ya go. Unless it's like your dads company or something and he's just mushing your face.

I understand that.  I would assume (correct me if I'm wrong) it's easier to be promoted within a company to a management position.  Those promoting you know and trust you, you know and have the respect of your current peers and other colleagues, and you know the industry, business, and culture of the company in general.  Conversely, I would assume getting your first management job at some other company, that doesn't know you from Adam, knows you don't know crap about their industry, and everything else, would be much more difficult.  It actually makes me question the shittiness of the job if they would consider hiring someone like me in this circumstance.

why is this particular management job so important? Maybe shoot for management in an industry you're qualified to work in.

What makes you think it's important?  My questions are generally applicable, not just for this position.  Frankly, I don't like the industry I'm in.

the fact that you're asking about it? :dunno:

My advice is applicable to general situations. But do what you want or whatever.

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« Reply #1085 on: April 15, 2016, 11:45:37 AM »
I had a phone interview once. I was pretty underqualified for the position.  I didn't get it.


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« Reply #1086 on: April 15, 2016, 11:45:46 AM »
The idea that having to go through a ton of interviews adds legitimacy to a position or company is laughable. 
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« Reply #1087 on: April 15, 2016, 11:49:05 AM »
The idea that having to go through a ton of interviews adds legitimacy to a position or company is laughable. 

Please elaborate
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« Reply #1088 on: April 15, 2016, 11:52:14 AM »
The idea that having to go through a ton of interviews adds legitimacy to a position or company is laughable. 

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It likely shows that you are meeting with the wrong people, or they are very indecisive. 2, maybe 3, interviews is reasonable, but 5 wastes a lot of people's time.
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« Reply #1089 on: April 15, 2016, 11:53:07 AM »
The idea that having to go through a ton of interviews adds legitimacy to a position or company is laughable.

I agree. Just shows lots of layers of redundancy
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« Reply #1090 on: April 15, 2016, 11:55:15 AM »
Redundancy can be essential though to very risk averse industries. 

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« Reply #1091 on: April 15, 2016, 11:57:22 AM »
I had one-on-one interviews with 5 people in 5 departments for one job and I thought it was a bit much. But then I traveled to Asia with 4 of them a couple months later and it made a lot of sense. The one I wasn't traveling with was my boss.

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« Reply #1092 on: April 15, 2016, 11:58:32 AM »
It's never even been redundant in my experience. Everyone evaluates something different.

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« Reply #1093 on: April 15, 2016, 11:58:43 AM »
The idea that having to go through a ton of interviews adds legitimacy to a position or company is laughable. 

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It likely shows that you are meeting with the wrong people, or they are very indecisive. 2, maybe 3, interviews is reasonable, but 5 wastes a lot of people's time.

ok I agree.  I think 3 is the perfect number. 
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« Reply #1094 on: April 15, 2016, 12:00:54 PM »
Redundancy can be essential though to very risk averse industries. 

You can have multiple people interview back to back in one visit.  Making someone come back multiple times is the problem IMO.
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« Reply #1095 on: April 15, 2016, 12:05:56 PM »
You got to risk it to get the biscuit, at least that's what I always say
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« Reply #1096 on: April 15, 2016, 12:10:27 PM »
The idea that having to go through a ton of interviews adds legitimacy to a position or company is laughable. 

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It likely shows that you are meeting with the wrong people, or they are very indecisive. 2, maybe 3, interviews is reasonable, but 5 wastes a lot of people's time.
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« Reply #1097 on: April 15, 2016, 12:11:57 PM »
Did they bring you in 5 separate times?  Or did you talk to 3 one time and 2 the next?  I would view the first option as extremely disrespectful.
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« Reply #1098 on: April 15, 2016, 12:13:24 PM »
i have never had multiple rounds of a job interview. in fact, the two jobs ive had have offered me the job on the spot. maybe i am a stud?
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« Reply #1099 on: April 15, 2016, 12:16:54 PM »
Did they bring you in 5 separate times?  Or did you talk to 3 one time and 2 the next?  I would view the first option as extremely disrespectful.

I had a few phone and skype interviews but was only on site once (when I met all 5 people in person). They had to fly me in so it made a lot of sense.