BSFS Expansion Thread

[captaincrap]

So when is all this crap going to be finished?

I think the website said it's all a part of the 2025 thing, so, I guess, 2025?

Also, the Vanier improvement is supposed to be Phase 6, and I was told (by the same guy) the reason that it was pushed to the end was because the donors that gave to fix it up last time would get pretty upset if we just bulldozed their millions to build something new right away.

Again, I want the validity of this from CC if possible.

It is one of many considerations, yes. Vanier had the expansion done just a few years ago, so there is some sensitivity to not just bulldoze all of those donors' contributions down.

But there are other factors too. It will be a disruptive project -- FB staff and ATH Academic staff will all have to be relocated for a significant amt of time. FB facilities, like weight room and training room, will have to either be finished at the WSC area first or relocated somewhere else. And the master plans call for it to complete the 360-degree concourse to allow people to make a lap around the stadium -- other projects will need to be done first to make the E and W sides ready. So, lots of reasons to make that one of the last things in the plan.

[wabash909]

It's better to wait.  We really don't need to start recruiting until 2025.

[sonofdaxjones]

No bulldozing of Vanier will be done while Snyder is still the coach. 

They need to get the recruiting center and new weightroom done ASAP, and then use that space to make a few more improvements to the dressing room.   Then the moment Snyder leaves they need to bulldoze the entirety of the old parts of Vanier and start over from scratch, as they should have done back in the 2004-2005 time frame.

[Panjandrum]

So when is all this crap going to be finished?

I think the website said it's all a part of the 2025 thing, so, I guess, 2025?

Also, the Vanier improvement is supposed to be Phase 6, and I was told (by the same guy) the reason that it was pushed to the end was because the donors that gave to fix it up last time would get pretty upset if we just bulldozed their millions to build something new right away.

Again, I want the validity of this from CC if possible.

It is one of many considerations, yes. Vanier had the expansion done just a few years ago, so there is some sensitivity to not just bulldoze all of those donors' contributions down.

But there are other factors too. It will be a disruptive project -- FB staff and ATH Academic staff will all have to be relocated for a significant amt of time. FB facilities, like weight room and training room, will have to either be finished at the WSC area first or relocated somewhere else. And the master plans call for it to complete the 360-degree concourse to allow people to make a lap around the stadium -- other projects will need to be done first to make the E and W sides ready. So, lots of reasons to make that one of the last things in the plan.

Thanks.  Any word on Phase 4?  It seems rather ambiguous because of the office and retail space.  I know Schulz mentioned that they want restaurants and stuff there, which makes sense, but it seems like that would be a project dependent on finding tenants in advance of green lighting the build (i.e. selling suites before finishing the WSC), and that seems like a harder sell.  I am personally afraid that could bottleneck Phase 5 and 6.

Of course, I guess you may need Phase 4 to complete 5 and 6, so it's a moot point.

As always, your thoughts are appreciated.

[Dr Rick Daris]

i want a hotel w/ a restaurant that overlooks the field and has happy hours. preferably spg even though i know it won't have any affiliation. make it spg ksu!

[Panjandrum]

i want a hotel w/ a restaurant that overlooks the field and has happy hours. preferably spg.

I would presume that the purple blob next to Bramlage would be the office/retail space, and I think daris' idea of a restaurant that overlooks the field would be amazing.

I know they won't do it, but a "Tallgrass" or "Boulevard" party deck up there would be pretty sweet (like what the Royals have in Right Field).

[Panjandrum]

Also, I have to ask (anyone that will answer or know), are they ever looking at aesthetically enhancing the exterior of Bramlage?  What about doing some interior renovations as well?

[Rage Against the McKee]

i want a hotel w/ a restaurant that overlooks the field and has happy hours. preferably spg.

I would presume that the purple blob next to Bramlage would be the office/retail space, and I think daris' idea of a restaurant that overlooks the field would be amazing.

I know they won't do it, but a "Tallgrass" or "Boulevard" party deck up there would be pretty sweet (like what the Royals have in Right Field).

I think an alcoholic beverage company-sponsored party deck is pretty unrealistic. Maybe we could get Dr. Pepper, though. We could call it the Dr. Decker.

[Dr Rick Daris]

i want a hotel w/ a restaurant that overlooks the field and has happy hours. preferably spg.

I would presume that the purple blob next to Bramlage would be the office/retail space, and I think daris' idea of a restaurant that overlooks the field would be amazing.

I know they won't do it, but a "Tallgrass" or "Boulevard" party deck up there would be pretty sweet (like what the Royals have in Right Field).

YES PANJANDRUM. YES! 

[EllToPay]

i want a hotel w/ a restaurant that overlooks the field and has happy hours. preferably spg.

I would presume that the purple blob next to Bramlage would be the office/retail space, and I think daris' idea of a restaurant that overlooks the field would be amazing.

I know they won't do it, but a "Tallgrass" or "Boulevard" party deck up there would be pretty sweet (like what the Royals have in Right Field).

YES PANJANDRUM. YES! 

The Ron Prince Memorial Party Deck

[KCFDcat]

i want a hotel w/ a restaurant that overlooks the field and has happy hours. preferably spg.

I would presume that the purple blob next to Bramlage would be the office/retail space, and I think daris' idea of a restaurant that overlooks the field would be amazing.

I know they won't do it, but a "Tallgrass" or "Boulevard" party deck up there would be pretty sweet (like what the Royals have in Right Field).

I think an alcoholic beverage company-sponsored party deck is pretty unrealistic. Maybe we could get Dr. Pepper, though. We could call it the Dr. Decker.

 

[Panjandrum]

i want a hotel w/ a restaurant that overlooks the field and has happy hours. preferably spg.

I would presume that the purple blob next to Bramlage would be the office/retail space, and I think daris' idea of a restaurant that overlooks the field would be amazing.

I know they won't do it, but a "Tallgrass" or "Boulevard" party deck up there would be pretty sweet (like what the Royals have in Right Field).

I think an alcoholic beverage company-sponsored party deck is pretty unrealistic. Maybe we could get Dr. Pepper, though. We could call it the Dr. Decker.

It may be unrealistic, but how do the rules work?

If the space is not technically a part of the stadium, and you don't need a ticket to hang out there during game day (they would be restaurant patrons after all), maybe we could get away with it?

[Dr Rick Daris]

they also need to have wedding receptions and stuff at the new pressbox so they'll need a big open area there. then when you are done at the reception you just walk to your hotel room and party it up a little more at the hotel bar and restaurant w/ balcony that overlook the field before heading up to your room and putting your head down on your comfy bsfs pillow.

[EllToPay]

what about a slide from the party deck that takes you down to the field? what if you and your groomsmen bros want to get in a quick game of touch football? for an extra fee, of course.

[Dr Rick Daris]

i want a hotel w/ a restaurant that overlooks the field and has happy hours. preferably spg.

I would presume that the purple blob next to Bramlage would be the office/retail space, and I think daris' idea of a restaurant that overlooks the field would be amazing.

I know they won't do it, but a "Tallgrass" or "Boulevard" party deck up there would be pretty sweet (like what the Royals have in Right Field).

I think an alcoholic beverage company-sponsored party deck is pretty unrealistic. Maybe we could get Dr. Pepper, though. We could call it the Dr. Decker.

It may be unrealistic, but how do the rules work?

If the space is not technically a part of the stadium, and you don't need a ticket to hang out there during game day (they would be restaurant patrons after all), maybe we could get away with it?

they could call it the john deere cat pasture and make your seats look like mini tractors and serve you drinks out of mason bottles for all i care. MAKE IT HAPPEN KSU!

[O-town Kat]

Was thinking slides from the party deck and top floor hotel banquet facility to the lazy river

[DQ12]

Could they do something with the dining center to dress it up during/after game for elite hungry cat fans?  Seems like they probably could.

[Panjandrum]

Could they do something with the dining center to dress it up during/after game for elite hungry cat fans?  Seems like they probably could.

Have dinner with your favorite cat student athletes?  For a small donation, of course.

 

[MadCat]

Could they do something with the dining center to dress it up during/after game for elite hungry cat fans?  Seems like they probably could.

Just needs some window treatments.  Shirley one of our quality interior design students could do it.

[DQ12]

I was being serious.  Is that notion absurd?  That they could turn the dining center into a restaurant type thing for several hours during and after games? 

[Belvis Noland]

Ok, so there's no Big XII rule prohibiting alcohol.  It's up to each member school to enact alcohol restrictions.  Per an MU article...

"The Big 12 conference currently does not have any members allowing the sale of beer or alcohol within campus-owned stadiums. MU allows for the consumption of alcohol inside the private suites, the press box and the Tiger Lounge. For those of legal drinking age, tailgating is permitted in designated areas surrounding the stadium and parking lots, according to mizzoutailgating.com."
 
“Here at Mizzou we only serve alcohol in the football press box, which is a controlled area,” she said. “Although there is no rule preventing schools from selling alcohol at sports events, it is highly recommended from the NCAA as at all NCAA Championships there are no beer sales.”

Per a WVU article...

"The University of West Virginia is set to join the Big 12 this summer, and it will bring a decision unheard of in this part of the country with it — allowing alcohol sales at its home football games.

 If this succeeds, other Big 12 schools like OSU may feel pressure to follow suit.

 On June 3, the West Virginia Board of Governors voted 10-5 in favor of allowing alcohol sales at home football games.  Board Member Tom Flaherty said a part of the decision was based on the prevalence of alcohol already seen at games.

“Anybody who thinks there isn’t alcohol in Mountaineer Field is either naive or blind,” Flaherty said. “It’s been going on at every game. It is there. This is a step forward to try to control that.”

West Virginia will take precautionary measures with the sales, such as not allowing points of sale anywhere near the student section, increasing security and cutting off alcohol sales at halftime each game. WVU Athletic Director Oliver Luck said this decision was part of a plan to facilitate a friendly environment at the games."

[steve dave]

I was being serious.  Is that notion absurd?  That they could turn the dining center into a restaurant type thing for several hours during and after games?

I bet LHC Bill Snyder would be, all, "yeah, eff no"

[MadCat]

Absurdity is in the eye of the beschemer.

[DQ12]

I was being serious.  Is that notion absurd?  That they could turn the dining center into a restaurant type thing for several hours during and after games?

I bet LHC Bill Snyder would be, all, "yeah, eff no"

The dining center is the last place Bill is at during/after games.  Maybe just do it in a way that he doesn't know "Dont' Tell Mom The Babysitter's Dead"-style.

[Belvis Noland]

So, in light of the "no alcohol rule" revelation, KSU should simply throw off the shackles and let the beer flow like wine. 

I also want a members club for Ahearn donors (think Livestrong Park) and/or GA bleachers (think Wrigley). 

this should be true of basketball and football.  As Luck stated, everybody is getting crunk face in the parking lot anyway.  might as well have them buy their alcohol from the school instead of Rickel's.