BSFS Expansion Thread

[WillieWatanabe]

CC, why haven't you or anyone else from the athletic department acknowledged the crapty mismatched turf?  I Asked John about 50 different times and ways and never got a response, and I've never heard him or anyone else say anything other than speculation?

Srsly.  It's time for answers.  Why is it mismatched, and why does the K-State athletic department like to crap on everything nice? 

Where can I find a pic of this mismatched turf?

Pg 30 of this thread.. 

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=11099.725

That's a non-issue.  That area is covered with other crap on game days.

it's no use. It's apparently a HUGE effING DEAL.

I think its more of an issue with the fact that they would go through the trouble to bring in an entirely different type of turf to cover 20 yards instead of just using the good stuff and paying a lil more for it to look right... Its like going to an autobody repair place and they say you can save 100 bucks to drive around with a black fender on your red ferrari... As a member of the design profession I can say this crap doesnt just happen someone made this decision and the lack of attention to detail is just not acceptable given the amount of money involved. Having said that you are right it will be covered with crap on gamedays and my not be noticed by the masses but it makes Kstate look cheap to those who do see it. Its not about being butthurt or whatever yall like to call it its about being proud and taking some ownership for the stuff that goes on at your school of choice... imo

rabble! rabble! rabble!

[TaqMan]

Maybe I missed the topic, but did anyone else notice the two areas marked "arcade" in the renderings? Are you shitting me? We're going to have an arcade? I hope they have Big Game Hunter   

[DQ12]

Maybe I missed the topic, but did anyone else notice the two areas marked "arcade" in the renderings? Are you shitting me? We're going to have an arcade? I hope they have Big Game Hunter   

It's not that kind of arcade, ya turkey!

[SkinnyBenny]

I think its more of an issue with the fact that they would go through the trouble to bring in an entirely different type of turf to cover 20 yards instead of just using the good stuff and paying a lil more for it to look right... Its like going to an autobody repair place and they say you can save 100 bucks to drive around with a black fender on your red ferrari... As a member of the design profession I can say this crap doesnt just happen someone made this decision and the lack of attention to detail is just not acceptable given the amount of money involved. Having said that you are right it will be covered with crap on gamedays and my not be noticed by the masses but it makes Kstate look cheap to those who do see it. It's not about being butthurt or whatever yall like to call it its about being proud and taking some ownership for the stuff that goes on at your school of choice... imo

This.  It makes zero sense and looks like crap.  Hey people: not everyone who sees our turf is only going to see it during games.

[TaqMan]

Maybe I missed the topic, but did anyone else notice the two areas marked "arcade" in the renderings? Are you shitting me? We're going to have an arcade? I hope they have Big Game Hunter   

It's not that kind of arcade, ya turkey!

It COULD be, D12. It could be. Mike Clark could finally open his mini golf greens next to the skeet ball games...

[pissclams]

one arcade could be filled with PS3's and the other arcade could be filled with xbox 360s

during the real football game, inside the arcade they could be doing NCAA College Football 2011 tournaments going on with the winner of the xbox 360 tournament facing off against the winner of the PS3 tournament.  flip a coin to see who gets the cats, the loser of the coin flip gets the cats' opponent that week.  the PS3 vs xbox 360 final will be shown on the jumbotron during the 4th quarter of the Q@s game. 

also free beer for all people in the arcade, regardless of age.

[ben ji]

one arcade could be filled with PS3's and the other arcade could be filled with xbox 360s

during the real football game, inside the arcade they could be doing NCAA College Football 2011  2012 tournaments going on with the winner of the xbox 360 tournament facing off against the winner of the PS3 tournament.  flip a coin to see who gets the cats, the loser of the coin flip gets the cats' opponent that week.  the PS3 vs xbox 360 final will be shown on the jumbotron during the 4th quarter of the Q@s game. 

also free beer for all people in the arcade, regardless of age.

fyp

[Kat Kid]

Who really gives a crap about the quality of the renderings? 

Us.  Message boarders.  We care.

No, it's all of the architecture/engineering/construction science people acting like know-it-alls.  It happens every time.  It's great.

We all live lives of quiet desperation.  Big timing some fools with your hard earned degree is one of the fleeting moments of success we al strive for in this world.

[captaincrap]

CC, why haven't you or anyone else from the athletic department acknowledged the crapty mismatched turf?  I Asked John about 50 different times and ways and never got a response, and I've never heard him or anyone else say anything other than speculation?

Srsly.  It's time for answers.  Why is it mismatched, and why does the K-State athletic department like to crap on everything nice? 

Someone earlier in the thread posted the response from the AD. You guys didn't like the response, and so you continue to complain about it.

The blacktop had to stay intact so that TV trucks, EMS vehicles, support vehicles etc can drive around it. This means you can't put the same infill turf product down there, because the infill turf product on the field needs a sand/crushed rock base, not concrete. If you laid it on top of blacktop you'd end up with a raised lip where it met the field — a giant safety issue, when the whole point of covering the blacktop is to make it safer.

So, if you can't cover it with infill you have to pick a different type of turf. And since it is a different product, the colors aren't going to be exactly the same — that's an AstroTurf issue. Fibers are made out of different material, light hits it differently etc. There really isn't any way to make them exactly the same color.

Make it black, you say. My understanding is that option was discussed, but the S&C and medical staff requested to not do that out of safety concerns (black turf in direct sun would be unbearably hot and they were concerned about athlete safety). Hard for an AD to justify going against medical and training staff, simply from a liability standpoint (ask UCF about medical liability for stu-athletes)

You keep saying it makes "zero sense", when really you mean that you don't like the conclusion that the AD came to after reviewing the options. Is it ideal? No, probably not. But it's the best of the imperfect options. And as has been pointed out, on gameday you aren't even going to see it. They may eventually put that same turf on the sidelines, I have no idea. But honestly, the whole thing to me seems more like people trying hard to find stuff to complain about.

[WillieWatanabe]

[michigancat]

jesus christ, just read this thread from the populous butthurt on...: lol:

Here's a newsflash: everything all these guys put out is generic crap (including Heery). All we really want is a big rough ridin' structure with a lot of glass that looks clean, and it's what everyone competent When won of the populous tards mentioned the glowing-purple-wherever-we-could-fit-it basketball training facility as an example of classy modern architecture he would like to see, I about lost it.  



Wow, omg!

[Gooch]

 

[michigancat]

populous wiz kid #1: you know what this atrium needs?

populous wiz kid #2: more glowing purple?

populous wiz kid #1: Bingo.



Wow, so modern!

[pissclams]

not sure who that chick is but.....want to do

[EllToPay]

CC, why haven't you or anyone else from the athletic department acknowledged the crapty mismatched turf?  I Asked John about 50 different times and ways and never got a response, and I've never heard him or anyone else say anything other than speculation?

Srsly.  It's time for answers.  Why is it mismatched, and why does the K-State athletic department like to crap on everything nice? 

Someone earlier in the thread posted the response from the AD. You guys didn't like the response, and so you continue to complain about it.

The blacktop had to stay intact so that TV trucks, EMS vehicles, support vehicles etc can drive around it. This means you can't put the same infill turf product down there, because the infill turf product on the field needs a sand/crushed rock base, not concrete. If you laid it on top of blacktop you'd end up with a raised lip where it met the field — a giant safety issue, when the whole point of covering the blacktop is to make it safer.

So, if you can't cover it with infill you have to pick a different type of turf. And since it is a different product, the colors aren't going to be exactly the same — that's an AstroTurf issue. Fibers are made out of different material, light hits it differently etc. There really isn't any way to make them exactly the same color.

Make it black, you say. My understanding is that option was discussed, but the S&C and medical staff requested to not do that out of safety concerns (black turf in direct sun would be unbearably hot and they were concerned about athlete safety). Hard for an AD to justify going against medical and training staff, simply from a liability standpoint (ask UCF about medical liability for stu-athletes)

You keep saying it makes "zero sense", when really you mean that you don't like the conclusion that the AD came to after reviewing the options. Is it ideal? No, probably not. But it's the best of the imperfect options. And as has been pointed out, on gameday you aren't even going to see it. They may eventually put that same turf on the sidelines, I have no idea. But honestly, the whole thing to me seems more like people trying hard to find stuff to complain about.

[EllToPay]

SB, what kind of clown suit do you wear?

[steve dave]

what do you guys think about the height difference between Shorty McLeftside and Talleta Ontherighterson?  At first you're all, like, hmmm, regular sized guy walking next to Lebron James or something.  But then you mind focuses and you realize the monster on the right is a chick and you have to come to terms with maybe McLeftside is some sort of proto human that maxes out at 4'9" or maybe we have a female shaq or something.  

[michigancat]

not sure who that chick is but.....want to do

that's what makes populous so great. great k-staters, grinders, dropping classy, attractive ladies in their rendos. we can only hope Heery can match these great women in their BSFS east side renderings, since they don't know K-state and all.

[steve dave]

what do you guys think about the height difference between Shorty McLeftside and Talleta Ontherighterson?  At first you're all, like, hmmm, regular sized guy walking next to Lebron James or something.  But then you mind focuses and you realize the monster on the right is a chick and you have to come to terms with maybe McLeftside is some sort of proto human that maxes out at 4'9" or maybe we have a female shaq or something.  

or maybe they just turned the forced perspective up to 11 to make the place look huge

[pissclams]

not sure who that chick is but.....want to do

that's what makes populous so great. great k-staters, grinders, dropping classy, attractive ladies in their rendos. we can only hope Heery can match these great women in their BSFS east side renderings, since they don't know K-state and all.

the giant banners would all be filled with inaccurate data.

[KITNfury]

what do you guys think about the height difference between Shorty McLeftside and Talleta Ontherighterson?  At first you're all, like, hmmm, regular sized guy walking next to Lebron James or something.  But then you mind focuses and you realize the monster on the right is a chick and you have to come to terms with maybe McLeftside is some sort of proto human that maxes out at 4'9" or maybe we have a female shaq or something.  

or maybe they just turned the forced perspective up to 11 to make the place look huge

Yeah, those are prolly 8' ceilings.

[Boakai]

what do you guys think about the height difference between Shorty McLeftside and Talleta Ontherighterson?  At first you're all, like, hmmm, regular sized guy walking next to Lebron James or something.  But then you mind focuses and you realize the monster on the right is a chick and you have to come to terms with maybe McLeftside is some sort of proto human that maxes out at 4'9" or maybe we have a female shaq or something.  

or maybe they just turned the forced perspective up to 11 to make the place look huge

Typical Frank era sized PG taking an official visit in our new digs.  Jam Sam and Branshea Brown took time out of their busy day to show him around.

[kitten_mittons]

Make it black, you say. My understanding is that option was discussed, but the S&C and medical staff requested to not do that out of safety concerns (black turf in direct sun would be unbearably hot and they were concerned about athlete safety). Hard for an AD to justify going against medical and training staff, simply from a liability standpoint (ask UCF about medical liability for stu-athletes)

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[wes mantooth]

Make it black, you say. My understanding is that option was discussed, but the S&C and medical staff requested to not do that out of safety concerns (black turf in direct sun would be unbearably hot and they were concerned about athlete safety). Hard for an AD to justify going against medical and training staff, simply from a liability standpoint (ask UCF about medical liability for stu-athletes)

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[Emo EMAW]

Make it black, you say. My understanding is that option was discussed, but the S&C and medical staff requested to not do that out of safety concerns (black turf in direct sun would be unbearably hot and they were concerned about athlete safety). Hard for an AD to justify going against medical and training staff, simply from a liability standpoint (ask UCF about medical liability for stu-athletes)

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