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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #3350 on: January 30, 2012, 09:50:33 AM »
If Reed flips, I think we're done.  I currently have us at around 73-74 on scholarship (depending on Xavier Gates), with 17 departing seniors.  If Foketi gets a hardship, we lose 16, meaning if we sign a full 25 in this class, we're pretty much back in the low 80's and possibly pushing 85 depending on how many we sign in this class and the number of off-season transfers.

Knowing that Snyder is always scouring the network for kids that signed and didn't qualify, I'm pretty sure we'll see 22-23 actually sign out of the 26 we have committed, we'll grayshirt a few (C. Jones, J. Jones, Starks?), place one or two (Hood), and over the course of the spring or summer, we may see a couple of transfers or late additions like we did with Darious Thomas, Bo TIllman, Carl Miles, etc.

Also, if Brandon Harold goes back on scholarship, it won't hurt the 25 man limit, but it will count against the 85, and due to the small number of seniors we actually had this year, we're going to eat into that scholarship deficiency pretty good.  I'm guessing since Ryan Mueller has been on campus for two years, we'll put him on scholarship now as well since he played a lot and won't count against the 25.  We're going to be as close to full strength as we have in years knowing that Snyder likes to hover around 80 so he can get some SEC/Big Ten non-qualifiers and transfers during the spring and summer.

For those scoring at home, should we actually sign all six JUCO players committed, and they get on campus, we'll have room to sign as many as 19 prep players.  I'd guess when it's all said and done, we're really looking at 6 JUCO and 15-16 spots with the others going the grayshirt or placement route.

I'd bet that going into Fall camp, we'll have around 80 on scholarship.  Depending on who we get to transfer in, we could be at 83 or 84.  The 2012 Senior class is pretty large, so it also wouldn't surprise me if we hold a few scholarships back in this class so we have a handful of count back opportunities in the 2013 class to help balance everything out.  The 2013 class will probably be heavy JUCO because the actual sophomore class this year is very small, so we're most likely going to supplement them with 8-10 JUCO players in the next class.

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #3351 on: January 30, 2012, 11:59:18 AM »
I'm completely fine with our recruiting class.  I'd like more defensive backs, but it could be worse.  It could be much much worse.

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #3352 on: January 30, 2012, 12:17:17 PM »
I'm completely fine with our recruiting class.  I'd like more defensive backs, but it could be worse.  It could be much much worse.

describe how it could be much, much worse.  :dubious:

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #3353 on: January 30, 2012, 12:31:26 PM »
I'm completely fine with our recruiting class.  I'd like more defensive backs, but it could be worse.  It could be much much worse.

describe how it could be much, much worse.  :dubious:

I guess if we hadn't landed the 6 jucos.  Only thing I can come up with, though.

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #3354 on: January 30, 2012, 12:33:35 PM »
I'm completely fine with our recruiting class.  I'd like more defensive backs, but it could be worse.  It could be much much worse.

describe how it could be much, much worse.  :dubious:

I guess if we hadn't landed the 6 jucos.  Only thing I can come up with, though.

maybe if one of the recruits was actually a robot with a bomb inside him and he was scheduled to blow up inside the new west side expansion right when it starts to get built?  that could qualify as "much, much" I guess.  maybe still just "much" though.  really a judgement call here.

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #3355 on: January 30, 2012, 12:43:03 PM »
I'm completely fine with our recruiting class.  I'd like more defensive backs, but it could be worse.  It could be much much worse.

describe how it could be much, much worse.  :dubious:

I guess if we hadn't landed the 6 jucos.  Only thing I can come up with, though.

maybe if one of the recruits was actually a robot with a bomb inside him and he was scheduled to blow up inside the new west side expansion right when it starts to get built?  that could qualify as "much, much" I guess.  maybe still just "much" though.  really a judgement call here.

When you count the redshirts and grayshirts, this is a pretty solid class...
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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #3356 on: January 30, 2012, 12:47:35 PM »
I'm completely fine with our recruiting class.  I'd like more defensive backs, but it could be worse.  It could be much much worse.

describe how it could be much, much worse.  :dubious:

I guess if we hadn't landed the 6 jucos.  Only thing I can come up with, though.

maybe if one of the recruits was actually a robot with a bomb inside him and he was scheduled to blow up inside the new west side expansion right when it starts to get built?  that could qualify as "much, much" I guess.  maybe still just "much" though.  really a judgement call here.

When you count the redshirts and grayshirts, this is a pretty solid class...

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #3357 on: January 30, 2012, 12:54:59 PM »
are we still messing with Harold  :dunno:

what's the latest info regarding him ?
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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #3358 on: January 30, 2012, 12:56:18 PM »
are we still messing with Harold  :dunno:

what's the latest info regarding him ?

some guy on GPC claimed he saw Klein eating with Harold at the Union and everyone immediately took it to mean he was going to be back on the team.  that's it. 

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #3359 on: January 30, 2012, 12:56:51 PM »
are we still messing with Harold  :dunno:

what's the latest info regarding him ?

Maybe Harold is still messing with us.

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #3360 on: January 30, 2012, 12:57:19 PM »
I'm completely fine with our recruiting class.  I'd like more defensive backs, but it could be worse.  It could be much much worse.

describe how it could be much, much worse.  :dubious:

I guess if we hadn't landed the 6 jucos.  Only thing I can come up with, though.

maybe if one of the recruits was actually a robot with a bomb inside him and he was scheduled to blow up inside the new west side expansion right when it starts to get built?  that could qualify as "much, much" I guess.  maybe still just "much" though.  really a judgement call here.

When you count the redshirts and grayshirts, this is a pretty solid class...

Yeah but people were saying last year's class was good due to those same greyshirts (myself included).   How many years are we going to give credit for those guys?  

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #3361 on: January 30, 2012, 12:58:02 PM »
are we still messing with Harold  :dunno:

what's the latest info regarding him ?

some guy on GPC claimed he saw Klein eating with Harold at the Union and everyone immediately took it to mean he was going to be back on the team.  that's it. 

He also commented on the demeanor of both, and said they seemed to be discussing something of some importance.  IMO, they were probably talking about Skyrim.

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #3362 on: January 30, 2012, 12:59:33 PM »
are we still messing with Harold  :dunno:

what's the latest info regarding him ?

some guy on GPC claimed he saw Klein eating with Harold at the Union and everyone immediately took it to mean he was going to be back on the team.  that's it.  

More than one person has claimed to have spoken to him and he says he'll be back.

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #3363 on: January 30, 2012, 01:00:24 PM »
I'm completely fine with our recruiting class.  I'd like more defensive backs, but it could be worse.  It could be much much worse.

describe how it could be much, much worse.  :dubious:

I guess if we hadn't landed the 6 jucos.  Only thing I can come up with, though.

maybe if one of the recruits was actually a robot with a bomb inside him and he was scheduled to blow up inside the new west side expansion right when it starts to get built?  that could qualify as "much, much" I guess.  maybe still just "much" though.  really a judgement call here.

When you count the redshirts and grayshirts, this is a pretty solid class...

Yeah but people were saying last year's class was good due to those same greyshirts (myself included).   How many years are we going to give credit for those guys?  


Three.  You get three year's of credit for a gray shirt.  The year that they show up in the commitment list, the next year when they "should really" be counted, then the next year when they are red-shirt freshman and can actually play.  


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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #3364 on: January 30, 2012, 01:04:53 PM »
are we still messing with Harold  :dunno:

what's the latest info regarding him ?

some guy on GPC claimed he saw Klein eating with Harold at the Union and everyone immediately took it to mean he was going to be back on the team.  that's it. 

there was another guy claiming he talked to Harold himself and confirmed it. Was that true? I never finished the thread.
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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #3365 on: January 30, 2012, 01:06:27 PM »
are we still messing with Harold  :dunno:

what's the latest info regarding him ?

some guy on GPC claimed he saw Klein eating with Harold at the Union and everyone immediately took it to mean he was going to be back on the team.  that's it. 

there was another guy claiming he talked to Harold himself and confirmed it. Was that true? I never finished the thread.

sure, why not.  so if we count Harold in this class it actually gets a bit better.

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #3366 on: January 30, 2012, 01:06:45 PM »
I'm completely fine with our recruiting class.  I'd like more defensive backs, but it could be worse.  It could be much much worse.

describe how it could be much, much worse.  :dubious:

I guess if we hadn't landed the 6 jucos.  Only thing I can come up with, though.

maybe if one of the recruits was actually a robot with a bomb inside him and he was scheduled to blow up inside the new west side expansion right when it starts to get built?  that could qualify as "much, much" I guess.  maybe still just "much" though.  really a judgement call here.

When you count the redshirts and grayshirts, this is a pretty solid class...

Yeah but people were saying last year's class was good due to those same greyshirts (myself included).   How many years are we going to give credit for those guys?  
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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #3367 on: January 30, 2012, 01:14:48 PM »
are we still messing with Harold  :dunno:

what's the latest info regarding him ?

some guy on GPC claimed he saw Klein eating with Harold at the Union and everyone immediately took it to mean he was going to be back on the team.  that's it. 

there was another guy claiming he talked to Harold himself and confirmed it. Was that true? I never finished the thread.

sure, why not.  so if we count Harold in this class it actually gets a bit better.

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #3368 on: January 30, 2012, 01:17:36 PM »
I'm also counting Harold and d-rob for this class. Good haul overall.
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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #3369 on: January 30, 2012, 01:19:27 PM »
good point about d-rob felix.  that's another 4 star for this class.

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #3370 on: January 30, 2012, 01:22:21 PM »
I believe in what LHC Bill Snyder is building.


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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #3371 on: January 30, 2012, 01:23:18 PM »
I'm also counting Harold and d-rob for this class. Good haul overall.

I'm sorry.  D Rob?

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #3372 on: January 30, 2012, 01:24:14 PM »
I'm also counting Harold and d-rob for this class. Good haul overall.

I'm sorry.  D Rob?

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« Reply #3373 on: January 30, 2012, 01:25:27 PM »
I'm also counting Harold and d-rob for this class. Good haul overall.

I'm sorry.  D Rob?

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I must have missed something.  He's been with us for two years?

Is this because he kind of flaked and came back?

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« Reply #3374 on: January 30, 2012, 01:26:21 PM »
I'm also counting Harold and d-rob for this class. Good haul overall.

I'm sorry.  D Rob?

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I must have missed something.  He's been with us for two years?

Is this because he kind of flaked and came back?

it's as legitimate as counting a greyshirt 2 or 3 times