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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #21900 on: January 19, 2016, 10:53:17 AM »
The recent shackleford column really says it all.  It said some bullshit like, "Snyder takes rare recruiting visit to visit with....Shackleford"(or whatevs his dumbass name is).  The article went on to say how bill hardly ever goes on recruiting trips anymore. 

I can't think of anything more sad than having a very respected coach and the lazy [redacted] never taking advantage of his name and rep by never visiting anyone.  I mean, Gary rough ridin' Pinkle dropped a helicopter in the back yard of that one criminal receiver, flipped off the NCAA, signed the kid, then made money and bill doesn't even leave the god damn 2 mile radius that he lives in. 

This should be enough for him to be fired, imo.

But he did go see him:

https://twitter.com/shackattack1997/status/687660699502252032
WGAF?  That is one kid, and we lost him.   He needs to get his old butt out to a lot of kids, shake the parents hand, and seal some rough ridin' deals.  Either that of retire and let us get someone who will.  Tired of bill shopping online at walmart.

I wonder how awkward it must be when the staff is in the living room of a recruit/family and the kid asked, "Why isn't Coach Snyder here?" It makes me laugh thinking about the response the staff probably comes up with.

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #21901 on: January 19, 2016, 12:58:31 PM »
Coach Coleman doesn't look happy that he's the only person out on the recruiting trail hustling

https://twitter.com/BHTigers12/status/689509171419480064/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #21902 on: January 19, 2016, 01:03:07 PM »
He probably looks sad, because this is what it's came down to.

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Loren-Young-181236

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #21903 on: January 19, 2016, 01:09:40 PM »
He probably looks sad, because this is what it's came down to.

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Loren-Young-181236

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wonder if we want him as a DT or a OL

wishful thinking, but it'd be nice if he and jacoby hill visited this weekend.  Hill is visiting Indiana ... like come'on ... INDIANA

http://247sports.com/Player/Jacoby-Hill-80828

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #21904 on: January 19, 2016, 01:16:23 PM »
Indiana is aiming towards a higher plateau vs us right now, when it comes to being competitive. 

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #21905 on: January 19, 2016, 04:59:49 PM »
I'm absolutely sure this is a stupid question but why I do I not remember having seen any 'recruited by' next to KSU on Rivals... like ever.

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #21907 on: January 19, 2016, 10:48:59 PM »
The Kellis article today was a painful insight into how we manage our recruiting affairs.
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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #21908 on: January 19, 2016, 11:27:33 PM »
The Kellis article today was a painful insight into how we manage our recruiting affairs.

Agreed, FSD. Here's the link:

http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article55539260.html

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« Reply #21909 on: January 19, 2016, 11:44:34 PM »
any program willing to make some calls/texts during the season has open access to any commitment we have, apparently. Crabby's insight was very good.

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #21910 on: January 20, 2016, 09:00:55 AM »
We need a new RC
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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #21912 on: January 20, 2016, 09:21:19 AM »
Bill telling coaches not to recruit yet the RC is the prob?

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #21914 on: January 20, 2016, 10:22:20 AM »
Bill telling coaches not to recruit yet the RC is the prob?

A general lack of emphasis on recruiting is a major problem.  Our staff's collective age is a problem.  LHC Bill Snyder's overall philosophy of starting walk-ons over more talented players is a problem.

The whole thing is a freaking problem.

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« Reply #21915 on: January 20, 2016, 10:39:38 AM »
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Bill telling coaches not to recruit yet the RC is the prob?

A general lack of emphasis on recruiting is a major problem.  Our staff's collective age is a problem.  LHC LHC Bill Snyder's overall philosophy of starting walk-ons over more talented players is a problem.

The whole thing is a freaking problem.

Serious question, what exactly does a recruiting coordinator do besides recruit? He tells coaches not to recruit, I don't think the RC is a coach.. Have any of you heard of our RC landing a recruit?

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #21916 on: January 20, 2016, 10:43:00 AM »
Bill telling coaches not to recruit yet the RC is the prob?

A general lack of emphasis on recruiting is a major problem.  Our staff's collective age is a problem.  LHC Bill Snyder's overall philosophy of starting walk-ons over more talented players is a problem.

The whole thing is a freaking problem.

I think Bill got burnt by recruiting at the end of his first run and that soured his entire view of it.

Then he comes back and guys like Klein and Zimmerman develop into high level players even though they were not highly recruited. Granted, transfers Brown and Harper were a big help as well. All together he still coaches a league title team that was in the NC running until November.

However, this recruiting philosophy eventually catches up with you, especially with injuries. I think Bill and staff is good enough to recruit a few top level guys and then develop the rest, but as we have continually seen throughout Bill 2 we simply don't have enough depth of talent or developed players to absorb major injuries. Bill can win at a decent clip the way things are, but the ceiling is now probably 2014 type seasons.

Bill's age hurts us a lot and the combination of his recruiting philosophy with the unknown of how long he's going to be here makes it really tough to recruit and keep players committed.

All that said, I'm not going to call for him to be fired. He's not going to be around much longer and I'll let him finish out his career on his terms. I don't think it hurts K-State's long term prospects much, I just hope that Currie has a good plan for when he's done.

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #21917 on: January 20, 2016, 10:43:36 AM »
I would imagine that recruits want to hear from the coach that would be coaching them (position or entire program) and the coordinator simply probes initially for interest, then coordinates the process of the kid getting to know the coaches and program. 

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #21918 on: January 20, 2016, 10:47:05 AM »
he does what his title states, he coordinates the recruiting.. which is different than the assistant coaches that actually recruit. he sets up the visits, he helps get the video set up for evaluating the prospects, he tells the student staff who needs to receive what in the mail. he does play a part in that he interacts a lot with the recruits, but it's different than an assistant coach. Braet does a good job and recruits like him. when they choose different schools it has nothing to do with him.

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #21919 on: January 20, 2016, 11:35:00 AM »
Bill telling coaches not to recruit yet the RC is the prob?

A general lack of emphasis on recruiting is a major problem.  Our staff's collective age is a problem.  LHC Bill Snyder's overall philosophy of starting walk-ons over more talented players is a problem.

The whole thing is a freaking problem.

I think Bill got burnt by recruiting at the end of his first run and that soured his entire view of it.

Then he comes back and guys like Klein and Zimmerman develop into high level players even though they were not highly recruited. Granted, transfers Brown and Harper were a big help as well. All together he still coaches a league title team that was in the NC running until November.

However, this recruiting philosophy eventually catches up with you, especially with injuries. I think Bill and staff is good enough to recruit a few top level guys and then develop the rest, but as we have continually seen throughout Bill 2 we simply don't have enough depth of talent or developed players to absorb major injuries. Bill can win at a decent clip the way things are, but the ceiling is now probably 2014 type seasons.

Bill's age hurts us a lot and the combination of his recruiting philosophy with the unknown of how long he's going to be here makes it really tough to recruit and keep players committed.

All that said, I'm not going to call for him to be fired. He's not going to be around much longer and I'll let him finish out his career on his terms. I don't think it hurts K-State's long term prospects much, I just hope that Currie has a good plan for when he's done.

It's not just injuries that we can't absorb.  In a round robin format, you can probably sneak a win against hyper-athletic teams like OU, Baylor, TCU, etc. in a season.  You may get two if you're pretty good.  But history has shown that when we face elite athletes, we look like we're standing still on the field.  We are going to have to rely on down years to sneak up and compete for a title.

Last year's recruiting class was big and deep enough that we can absorb a couple of attrition hits, but had a couple of big departures.  English and Heath hurt.  That kind of class can probably bridge you for a while, especially if what we can get out of this class is 3-5 solid starters in a few years (especially a strong QB), but we can't see this kind of recruiting effort in 2017.  Or 2018.  We don't have the talent to absorb this kind of class but once every four years.  And based on Kellis' article, there's no reason to believe next year is going to be much better.

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #21920 on: January 20, 2016, 01:01:44 PM »
I always check in on this thread with a glimmer of hope :cry:
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« Reply #21921 on: January 20, 2016, 02:07:55 PM »
I always check in on this thread with a glimmer of hope :cry:

Pipe you need to go make some in-home visits with some of the top ESPN 300 and recruit these guys to Kstate. Then come back here and report the good news.

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #21922 on: January 20, 2016, 11:01:21 PM »
Offer extended to Cerritos DT, Raymond Price.

He is scheduled to visit next weekend.

Visits Eastern Michigan this weekend, who has offered.

Other interest (but no offer, yet) is Texas State.

http://sports.yahoo.com/kansasstate/football/recruiting/player-Raymond-Price-179115


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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #21923 on: January 20, 2016, 11:18:02 PM »
Offer extended to Cerritos DT, Raymond Price.

He is scheduled to visit next weekend.

Visits Eastern Michigan this weekend, who has offered.

Other interest (but no offer, yet) is Texas State.

http://sports.yahoo.com/kansasstate/football/recruiting/player-Raymond-Price-179115


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Exhibit A to: i) Coach's ineffective recruiting strategy ii) his older staff of asst's that really don't want to pick up the phone or hop a plane to rural Texas and iii) finally, just an overall lack of enthusiasm and energy being invested by the current regime, as a whole. 

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #21924 on: January 20, 2016, 11:23:10 PM »
Offer extended to Cerritos DT, Raymond Price.

He is scheduled to visit next weekend.

Visits Eastern Michigan this weekend, who has offered.

Other interest (but no offer, yet) is Texas State.

http://sports.yahoo.com/kansasstate/football/recruiting/player-Raymond-Price-179115


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Exhibit A to: i) Coach's ineffective recruiting strategy ii) his older staff of asst's that really don't want to pick up the phone or hop a plane to rural Texas and iii) finally, just an overall lack of enthusiasm and energy being invested by the current regime, as a whole.

I don't think that is fair. I think it has everything to do how we handle recruiting during season. The coaches don't go on the road, Bill thinks it better having them in Manhattan with the current players.