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Re: Mainstream Economics Thread
« Reply #575 on: January 31, 2025, 08:28:48 AM »
oh yeah? would a MORON turn the stove on and then slap his dick on the burner?

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Re: Mainstream Economics Thread
« Reply #576 on: January 31, 2025, 08:39:28 AM »
Dax, you’re a moron on many topics but you really show your ass when it comes to money. How many ass whippings will it take? Incredible stamina.


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What does job numbers have to do with "money".

You get all  :curse: :curse: :curse: about who is saying, and the dude is using your go to sources.

It's  :lol: :lol: :lol: to watch you on this topic

LMAO . . . I bring up credit card and auto defaults, and you've got  to pivot to mortgages. It's classic deflectoSteve   :lol:




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Re: Mainstream Economics Thread
« Reply #577 on: January 31, 2025, 08:43:28 AM »
Dax, in your brain are you usually “winning” in this thread or just getting the absolute living crap kicked out of you? Because I think you may have a serious mental health issue if the former.


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Re: Mainstream Economics Thread
« Reply #578 on: January 31, 2025, 08:46:23 AM »
There's nothing more  :lol: :lol: then to watch you and others declare that you're "winning"

How positively . . . Trumpian  :lol: :lol:

FYI - the only job "growth" over the last few years was either government jobs or highly subsidized by the government jobs

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Re: Mainstream Economics Thread
« Reply #579 on: January 31, 2025, 09:00:19 AM »
Oh man . . . Oct-Nov-Dec'24 savings rates, revised . . . down.

Cooked those numbers to prop up GDP "growth" in the run up to the election


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Re: Mainstream Economics Thread
« Reply #580 on: January 31, 2025, 09:17:58 AM »
GDP growth for the third quarter of 2024 (June-September) was revised up in December 2024.

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Re: Mainstream Economics Thread
« Reply #581 on: January 31, 2025, 09:20:16 AM »
GDP growth for the third quarter of 2024 (June-September) was revised up in December 2024.
Ahh, well, nevertheless


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Re: Mainstream Economics Thread
« Reply #582 on: January 31, 2025, 09:24:15 AM »
Some people just don't understand months and our calendar, apparently.


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Re: Mainstream Economics Thread
« Reply #583 on: January 31, 2025, 09:27:42 AM »
every thread but esp this one


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Re: Mainstream Economics Thread
« Reply #584 on: January 31, 2025, 09:29:11 AM »
It's kind of hard to be wrong about the calendar . . . but maybe for #blueanongE that's a challenge.


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Re: Mainstream Economics Thread
« Reply #585 on: January 31, 2025, 09:33:03 AM »
$6.8 Trillion dollars in Federal Spending in FFY '24 . . . for tepid - mid - treading water GDP "growth"

Federal spending vs overall GDP as a percentage was an all time record in a non national emergency year.




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Re: Mainstream Economics Thread
« Reply #586 on: January 31, 2025, 09:46:06 AM »
I will put it plainly for you. If the Biden administration and/or government economic agencies were cooking the books, why did third quarter GDP growth get revised upward after the election?

The message you send out is that the economy is terrible and the government is making up the numbers to hide this fact. If that is not what you think, you should reconsider the message you are sending.

I get that the economy is not perfect and there are some issues that should be dealt with. Inflation adjusted personal income growth has not been great when compared with 2019. It's maybe marginally higher, but that's nothing to trumpet over a 5-6 year period. The labor market is most likely cooling off, which I contend is not really a problem given current unemployment levels. Auto loan defaults are rising a bit.

However, the economy is not terrible. I don't think it's as good as it was in 2019, but it's not terrible. And I wouldn't listen to people like EJ Antoni or anyone else that puts Ph.D. in their Twitter byline or insists on being called Dr. in public.

Moreover, I highly, highly doubt the BLS and BEA are cooking the books. They're not perfect and there are things they can improve upon. For example, the birth/death model the BLS uses could use a lot of work. Insisting on them making things up or falsely adjusting numbers makes you look like a crazy person.


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Re: Mainstream Economics Thread
« Reply #587 on: January 31, 2025, 09:51:04 AM »
I have never claimed that the economy is "terrible" . . . but it's not as good as what hyper partisans claim that it is.

You simply cannot hide from the fact that our economy is being significantly buoyed by massive Federal (deficit) spending, and that job growth is almost wholly centered around government subsidization of those numbers. When you step outside the lanes of government impact on hiring, the job numbers are not great.

More than one thing can be true at the same time, and #blueanongE really struggles with that.

You also cannot ignore the politicization of the release of numbers . . . very very few people pay attention to the down the line revisions. The numbers are released and touted for political purposes.








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Re: Mainstream Economics Thread
« Reply #588 on: January 31, 2025, 09:54:01 AM »
one of those times where you have to take dax says seriously, not literally.

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Re: Mainstream Economics Thread
« Reply #589 on: January 31, 2025, 09:55:19 AM »
The problem with people like BAC and most of #blueanongE is that anything less than fawning praise of what they hold dear is considered an attack.

Very FanningBragish


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Re: Mainstream Economics Thread
« Reply #590 on: January 31, 2025, 09:55:25 AM »
Wait is Justwin part of #blueAnonGE now? Or does that just include any one who dares question your  insane ranting?

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Re: Mainstream Economics Thread
« Reply #591 on: January 31, 2025, 09:55:55 AM »
Everything I don't like is "insane ranting" . . . Chongs


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Re: Mainstream Economics Thread
« Reply #592 on: January 31, 2025, 10:01:44 AM »
The problem with people like BAC and most of #blueanongE is that anything less than fawning praise of what they hold dear is considered an attack.

Very FanningBragish

i'm not sure i've ever said anything complimentary about joe biden. at least not from a political standpoint anyway. From the standpoint of using his giant hog to wreck Dr Jill's guts 24/7/365? sure, yes i have definitely thrust praise upon him from that standpoint. But i defy you to show me any blogposts where i said something nice about joe as a president. and no, it has not been well documented on this blog.

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« Reply #593 on: January 31, 2025, 10:05:51 AM »
The problem with people like BAC and most of #blueanongE is that anything less than fawning praise of what they hold dear is considered an attack.

Very FanningBragish

i'm not sure i've ever said anything complimentary about joe biden. at least not from a political standpoint anyway. From the standpoint of using his giant hog to wreck Dr Jill's guts 24/7/365? sure, yes i have definitely thrust praise upon him from that standpoint. But i defy you to show me any blogposts where i said something nice about joe as a president. and no, it has not been well documented on this blog.

It's the classic #blueanongE shell game . . . I don't praise Joe Biden on a personal level (besides fantasizing about his flaccid old crank) - but when someone challenges his idiotic policies, I get all  :curse: :curse:

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Re: Mainstream Economics Thread
« Reply #594 on: January 31, 2025, 10:11:51 AM »
The projection lmao
Hyperbolic partisan duplicitous hypocrite

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Re: Mainstream Economics Thread
« Reply #595 on: January 31, 2025, 10:13:38 AM »
A member of the group that is all cranks-gnads-fecal matter - all the time, is now trying to talk about projection  :lol: :lol:

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Re: Mainstream Economics Thread
« Reply #596 on: January 31, 2025, 10:14:30 AM »
I love the complaints about lack of competence from Joe. Meanwhile just yesterday when asked how he know the air crash was due to DEI, Trump admitted he hadn’t looked in to the issue but knew it was DEI’s fault because he “has common sense”.  I can’t wait for 4 more years of the government being run that way.

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Re: Mainstream Economics Thread
« Reply #597 on: January 31, 2025, 10:14:56 AM »
I think it’s common ground to praise the massive hog of our former president


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Re: Mainstream Economics Thread
« Reply #598 on: January 31, 2025, 10:15:36 AM »
I think it’s common ground to praise the massive hog of our former president


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Also it's frequent use.
Hyperbolic partisan duplicitous hypocrite

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Re: Mainstream Economics Thread
« Reply #599 on: January 31, 2025, 10:15:47 AM »
If we cannot as a society come together over that, then what can we ever hope to agree on?


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