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Re: Mainstream Economics Thread
« Reply #600 on: January 31, 2025, 10:16:20 AM »
If I am now a part of blueanonGE, I don't know what blueanonGE means.

Dax, I agree with you on the unsustainability of current federal deficits. When the deficit is brough to a sustainable level, it will slow GDP growth and may cause higher unemployment. The share of federal spending that net interest on the debt is scheduled to be is substantial and will be a drag on growth in the future. I've said as much in this thread.

Also, private job growth is probably slowing. It will still almost assuredly be positive for the year, but that slowing is needed for a normalization of inflation. If unemployment was 6.0% and we were seeing these private job growth numbers, that would be worrisome. With unemployment at 4.1%, not so much.

In terms of revisions, below is a table showing the revisions to the unemployment rate for Jan-Nov of 2024.

 Month                  As First Published      As Revised            Change

January.............                 3.7                 3.7                 0.0
February............                3.9                 3.9                 0.0
March...............                 3.8                 3.9                 0.1
April...............                   3.9                 3.9                 0.0
May.................                  4.0                 4.0                 0.0
June................                  4.1                 4.1                 0.0
July................                   4.3                 4.2                -0.1
August..............                 4.2                 4.2                 0.0
September...........               4.1                 4.1                 0.0
October.............                 4.1                 4.1                 0.0
November............               4.2                 4.2                 0.0

These unemployment rates are based on the household survey, which tends to be less noisy than the establishment survey. The establishment survey (where job growth numbers come from) has always been subject to more revision.

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Re: Mainstream Economics Thread
« Reply #601 on: January 31, 2025, 10:16:34 AM »
I love the complaints about lack of competence from Joe. Meanwhile just yesterday when asked how he know the air crash was due to DEI, Trump admitted he hadn’t looked in to the issue but knew it was DEI’s fault because he “has common sense”.  I can’t wait for 4 more years of the government being run that way.

I've already said it was dumb to say that and you've got 25 other threads on this blog to melt down about it

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« Reply #602 on: January 31, 2025, 10:19:43 AM »
If I am now a part of blueanonGE, I don't know what blueanonGE means.

Dax, I agree with you on the unsustainability of current federal deficits. When the deficit is brough to a sustainable level, it will slow GDP growth and may cause higher unemployment. The share of federal spending that net interest on the debt is scheduled to be is substantial and will be a drag on growth in the future. I've said as much in this thread.

Also, private job growth is probably slowing. It will still almost assuredly be positive for the year, but that slowing is needed for a normalization of inflation. If unemployment was 6.0% and we were seeing these private job growth numbers, that would be worrisome. With unemployment at 4.1%, not so much.

In terms of revisions, below is a table showing the revisions to the unemployment rate for Jan-Nov of 2024.

 Month                  As First Published      As Revised            Change

January.............                 3.7                 3.7                 0.0
February............                3.9                 3.9                 0.0
March...............                 3.8                 3.9                 0.1
April...............                   3.9                 3.9                 0.0
May.................                  4.0                 4.0                 0.0
June................                  4.1                 4.1                 0.0
July................                   4.3                 4.2                -0.1
August..............                 4.2                 4.2                 0.0
September...........               4.1                 4.1                 0.0
October.............                 4.1                 4.1                 0.0
November............               4.2                 4.2                 0.0

These unemployment rates are based on the household survey, which tends to be less noisy than the establishment survey. The establishment survey (where job growth numbers come from) has always been subject to more revision.

That's great, and when the numbers are broken down even further between part time and full time, what's occurring outside of the highly gov subsidized job market . . . it's not great, it's not even remotely great.


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Re: Mainstream Economics Thread
« Reply #603 on: January 31, 2025, 10:20:20 AM »
I think it’s common ground to praise the massive hog of our former president


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exactly. i mean to be perfectly honest if don was packin some heat i would set my politics aside and give credit where its due. but several reliable primary sources have all confirmed its some weird kinda stumpy bulbous mushroom type situations down there. no thanks.

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Re: Mainstream Economics Thread
« Reply #604 on: January 31, 2025, 10:21:52 AM »
#blueanongE can't make it through a single thread without sharing their fantasies surrounding cranks-gnads-fecal matter

Completely fixated on the topic


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Re: Mainstream Economics Thread
« Reply #605 on: January 31, 2025, 10:24:10 AM »
If I am now a part of blueanonGE, I don't know what blueanonGE means.

Dax, I agree with you on the unsustainability of current federal deficits. When the deficit is brough to a sustainable level, it will slow GDP growth and may cause higher unemployment. The share of federal spending that net interest on the debt is scheduled to be is substantial and will be a drag on growth in the future. I've said as much in this thread.

Also, private job growth is probably slowing. It will still almost assuredly be positive for the year, but that slowing is needed for a normalization of inflation. If unemployment was 6.0% and we were seeing these private job growth numbers, that would be worrisome. With unemployment at 4.1%, not so much.

In terms of revisions, below is a table showing the revisions to the unemployment rate for Jan-Nov of 2024.

 Month                  As First Published      As Revised            Change

January.............                 3.7                 3.7                 0.0
February............                3.9                 3.9                 0.0
March...............                 3.8                 3.9                 0.1
April...............                   3.9                 3.9                 0.0
May.................                  4.0                 4.0                 0.0
June................                  4.1                 4.1                 0.0
July................                   4.3                 4.2                -0.1
August..............                 4.2                 4.2                 0.0
September...........               4.1                 4.1                 0.0
October.............                 4.1                 4.1                 0.0
November............               4.2                 4.2                 0.0

These unemployment rates are based on the household survey, which tends to be less noisy than the establishment survey. The establishment survey (where job growth numbers come from) has always been subject to more revision.

That's great, and when the numbers are broken down even further between part time and full time, what's occurring outside of the highly gov subsidized job market . . . it's not great, it's not even remotely great.

Why is it not great?

How do you expect to get inflation under control with the levels of job growth you seemingly want?

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Re: Mainstream Economics Thread
« Reply #606 on: January 31, 2025, 10:24:59 AM »
dax i just said i am not interested in don's stumpy dong. its been documented on this very page of this very thread. you have my "0 fantasies about don and his weird weenus" guarantee. you can quote me on that.

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Re: Mainstream Economics Thread
« Reply #607 on: January 31, 2025, 10:27:33 AM »
If I am now a part of blueanonGE, I don't know what blueanonGE means.

any one who dares question dax's insane ranting

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Re: Mainstream Economics Thread
« Reply #608 on: January 31, 2025, 01:54:10 PM »
Another crap sandwich left behind by the sock puppet president




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« Reply #609 on: January 31, 2025, 02:17:35 PM »
If I am now a part of blueanonGE, I don't know what blueanonGE means.

Dax, I agree with you on the unsustainability of current federal deficits. When the deficit is brough to a sustainable level, it will slow GDP growth and may cause higher unemployment. The share of federal spending that net interest on the debt is scheduled to be is substantial and will be a drag on growth in the future. I've said as much in this thread.

Also, private job growth is probably slowing. It will still almost assuredly be positive for the year, but that slowing is needed for a normalization of inflation. If unemployment was 6.0% and we were seeing these private job growth numbers, that would be worrisome. With unemployment at 4.1%, not so much.

In terms of revisions, below is a table showing the revisions to the unemployment rate for Jan-Nov of 2024.

 Month                  As First Published      As Revised            Change

January.............                 3.7                 3.7                 0.0
February............                3.9                 3.9                 0.0
March...............                 3.8                 3.9                 0.1
April...............                   3.9                 3.9                 0.0
May.................                  4.0                 4.0                 0.0
June................                  4.1                 4.1                 0.0
July................                   4.3                 4.2                -0.1
August..............                 4.2                 4.2                 0.0
September...........               4.1                 4.1                 0.0
October.............                 4.1                 4.1                 0.0
November............               4.2                 4.2                 0.0

These unemployment rates are based on the household survey, which tends to be less noisy than the establishment survey. The establishment survey (where job growth numbers come from) has always been subject to more revision.

That's great, and when the numbers are broken down even further between part time and full time, what's occurring outside of the highly gov subsidized job market . . . it's not great, it's not even remotely great.

Why is it not great?

How do you expect to get inflation under control with the levels of job growth you seemingly want?

Why do you keep asking me questions about things I am not asking about or "demanding"?

I haven't stipulated any level of job growth - the simple fact is, the politicized "job growth" centers around government subsidized growth. Outside of that lane, job growth isn't particularly great, or even good. It's that simple.


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Re: Mainstream Economics Thread
« Reply #610 on: February 27, 2025, 06:20:34 PM »
Here’s a crap sandwich, Don.




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« Reply #611 on: February 27, 2025, 06:47:43 PM »
The cope is real
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Re: Mainstream Economics Thread
« Reply #612 on: February 27, 2025, 06:52:35 PM »
Here’s a crap sandwich, Don.




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Now do the graph for single family homes.

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« Reply #613 on: February 27, 2025, 08:00:20 PM »
Pure deflection - thy name is LickNeckey


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« Reply #614 on: February 27, 2025, 09:37:44 PM »
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Re: Mainstream Economics Thread
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« Reply #616 on: February 28, 2025, 07:37:36 AM »
Dax seems to consider his life work to convince us that the economy has been horrible and that everyone is about to lose their homes. 

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« Reply #617 on: February 28, 2025, 08:16:14 AM »
i think dax went hard on the trump coin and didn't see the rug pull coming

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« Reply #618 on: February 28, 2025, 09:42:25 AM »
It's a total deflecto meltdown every single time . . . it's the most onbrandest #blueanongE thing ever.   :thumbsup:

Massive delinquency rates in MDU housing is a good thing .  .  . #blueanongE




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Re: Mainstream Economics Thread
« Reply #619 on: February 28, 2025, 10:14:48 AM »
as i understand much of this is being driven by the office sector

a situation that obviously was affected by the pandemic and WFH

I would anticipate that there is some relief from many companies moving away from WFH

However I would also guess that the actions of DOGE and to a far larger extent the impacts of AI will continue to reshape this sector

**(retail seems to be a driver as well as ecommerce continues to reshape that space)

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« Reply #620 on: February 28, 2025, 11:15:25 AM »
I think in store retail sales have nearly come back to pre pandemic levels, at least the data I've seen has shown that.
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« Reply #621 on: February 28, 2025, 02:57:00 PM »
I think in store retail sales have nearly come back to pre pandemic levels, at least the data I've seen has shown that.

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« Reply #622 on: February 28, 2025, 03:05:52 PM »
lol wut
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« Reply #623 on: March 03, 2025, 10:37:42 AM »
lol wut

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